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Peacemaker Season 2: A Wild Ride Through the DC Universe! · Systematic Geekology

1:15
What
1:15
if
1:15
we
1:16
were
1:16
trapped
1:16
in
1:16
an
1:17
alternate
1:17
dimension
1:17
in
1:17
the
1:18
DC
1:18
Universe?
1:19
This
1:20
is
1:20
systematic
1:21
ecology.
1:22
We
1:22
are
1:22
the
1:22
priest
1:23
of
1:23
the
1:23
geeks.
1:23
I
1:24
am
1:24
one
1:24
of
1:24
your
1:24
hosts,
1:25
Kevin
1:25
Schaefer.
1:26
And
1:26
coming
1:27
on
1:27
in
1:27
just
1:28
a
1:28
minute,
1:28
we
1:28
have
1:29
my
1:29
fellow
1:30
geekologists,
1:31
Evan
1:31
Garcia,
1:32
Christian,
1:32
Ashley.
1:34
Hey,
1:35
hey.
1:35
It's
1:36
a
1:36
good
1:36
day,
1:36
Kevin.
1:36
Got
1:37
a
1:37
lot
1:37
of
1:37
good,
1:38
good
1:38
things
1:38
to
1:38
talk
1:38
about.
1:39
A
1:39
lot
1:39
of
1:39
good
1:40
things
1:40
to
1:40
talk
1:40
about.
1:41
This
1:41
is
1:41
a
1:42
what's
1:43
News
1:43
episode
1:44
where
1:44
we
1:44
talk
1:45
about
1:45
all
1:45
the
1:45
latest
1:45
things
1:46
in
1:46
geek
1:46
culture.
1:47
And
1:47
if
1:47
you
1:47
couldn't
1:47
tell
1:48
from
1:48
the
1:48
intro,
1:49
this
1:49
episode
1:49
will
1:50
specifically
1:51
focus
1:51
on
1:52
Peacemaker
1:52
Season
1:53
2.
1:54
So
1:54
if
1:54
you
1:55
first
1:55
and
1:55
foremost,
1:56
if
1:56
you
1:56
have
1:56
not
1:56
watched
1:57
Peacemaker,
1:58
be
1:59
warned,
1:59
we
2:00
are
2:00
going
2:00
to
2:00
get
2:00
into
2:00
heavy
2:01
spoilers
2:02
as
2:02
season
2:03
two
2:03
wrapped
2:03
up
2:03
recently.
2:04
We're
2:04
going
2:05
to
2:05
be
2:05
talking
2:05
about
2:05
that.
2:05
We're
2:05
going
2:06
to
2:06
be
2:06
doing
2:06
some
2:07
other
2:07
things
2:07
we've
2:07
been
2:08
geeking
2:08
out
2:08
on,
2:08
and
2:08
we're
2:09
going
2:09
to
2:09
be
2:09
also
2:09
talking
2:10
about
2:10
a
2:10
recent
2:10
horror
2:11
Movie,
2:11
Black
2:11
Phone
2:12
2.
2:12
So
2:13
a
2:13
lot
2:13
to
2:13
talk
2:13
about
2:14
tonight.
2:15
If
2:15
you
2:15
are
2:15
here
2:15
for
2:16
joining
2:16
us
2:16
for
2:16
the
2:16
first
2:17
time,
2:17
please,
2:18
we
2:19
want
2:19
to
2:19
give
2:19
a
2:20
huge
2:20
thank
2:20
you
2:21
to
2:21
all
2:21
of
2:21
you
2:22
spending
2:22
your
2:22
time
2:23
with
2:23
us,
2:23
whether
2:23
here
2:24
on
2:24
YouTube
2:24
or
2:25
if
2:25
you're
2:25
listening
2:26
later
2:27
on
2:27
one
2:27
of
2:27
your
2:28
wherever
2:28
you
2:28
get
2:29
your
2:29
podcasts,
2:30
huge
2:30
shout
2:31
out
2:31
to
2:31
all
2:31
of
2:31
you.
2:31
This
2:32
is,
2:32
we
2:33
are,
2:33
we
2:34
are
2:35
a
2:35
group
2:35
of
2:35
geeks
2:36
here
2:36
that
2:37
talk
2:37
about
2:38
also
2:38
the
2:39
philosophical
2:39
themes
2:40
and
2:40
spiritual
2:41
themes
2:41
that
2:41
intersect
2:42
with
2:42
geek
2:42
culture.
2:43
So
2:43
thank
2:44
you
2:44
so
2:44
much
2:44
for
2:44
being
2:44
here.
2:45
Thank
2:45
you
2:45
to
2:45
our
2:45
patreons.
2:46
You
2:47
are
2:47
all
2:47
awesome.
2:48
And
2:48
also
2:49
for
2:49
systematic
2:50
ecology,
2:50
we
2:50
have
2:51
our
2:51
new
2:52
fourth
2:52
Wall
2:52
site
2:53
which
2:53
has
2:54
a
2:54
lot
2:54
of
2:54
our
2:54
merchandise
2:55
there.
2:55
So
2:56
if
2:57
you
2:57
want
2:57
to
2:57
check
2:57
out,
2:58
you
2:59
know,
2:59
mugs,
3:00
T
3:00
shirts,
3:00
a
3:01
lot
3:01
of
3:01
Merc
3:01
there,
3:01
you
3:02
can
3:02
go
3:02
to
3:02
the
3:02
site,
3:03
like
3:03
rate
3:04
and
3:04
review
3:04
us.
3:04
It
3:04
really
3:05
helps
3:05
the
3:05
show
3:06
and
3:07
whether
3:07
you
3:08
are
3:08
a
3:08
friend
3:08
or
3:08
enemy.
3:09
Hey
3:09
you.
3:10
You're
3:10
all
3:10
welcome
3:10
here
3:12
by
3:12
wherever
3:13
your
3:13
fandom's
3:13
live.
3:14
So
3:15
well,
3:15
Evan,
3:15
Christian,
3:16
great
3:16
to
3:16
have
3:16
you
3:17
guys
3:17
here
3:17
tonight.
3:18
Before
3:18
we
3:18
get
3:19
into
3:19
the
3:19
main
3:19
topics
3:20
of
3:20
the
3:20
evening,
3:21
let
3:21
us
3:22
first
3:22
start
3:22
with
3:23
our
3:23
lightning
3:24
round.
3:25
Yes,
3:25
our
3:25
lightning
3:26
round.
3:26
This
3:26
is
3:26
where
3:27
we
3:27
go
3:27
around
3:27
kind
3:28
of
3:28
talking
3:28
about
3:28
some
3:28
of
3:28
the
3:29
other
3:29
things
3:29
we're
3:29
geeking
3:30
out
3:30
on
3:31
that
3:31
don't
3:32
have
3:32
to
3:32
do
3:32
with
3:32
the
3:32
main
3:32
topic.
3:33
So,
3:34
Christian,
3:34
we'll
3:34
start
3:34
with
3:35
you.
3:35
What
3:35
else?
3:35
What
3:35
are
3:35
your
3:36
lightning
3:36
round
3:36
picks
3:36
tonight?
3:37
Yeah,
3:38
I've
3:38
got
3:38
a
3:39
couple.
3:39
My
3:39
first
3:39
is
3:40
going
3:40
to
3:40
be
3:40
and
3:40
I'm
3:41
late
3:41
to
3:41
the
3:41
party,
3:41
but
3:42
K
3:42
Pop
3:43
Demon
3:43
Hunters.
3:44
This
3:45
is
3:45
a
3:45
Netflix,
3:46
if
3:46
I
3:46
remember
3:46
correctly,
3:47
production
3:48
and
3:48
it
3:49
was
3:50
extremely
3:50
fun.
3:51
It's
3:51
not
3:52
exactly
3:53
Reinventing
3:53
the
3:53
Wheel.
3:54
It's
3:54
a
3:54
cliche
3:55
storm,
3:55
and
3:55
I
3:55
mean
3:55
that
3:55
affectionately.
3:57
It
3:57
was
3:57
fun.
3:58
The
3:58
songs
3:58
are
3:58
catchy.
3:59
The
3:59
story
3:59
was
4:00
good.
4:01
It's
4:01
a
4:01
good
4:01
time.
4:01
Like,
4:02
you
4:03
can
4:03
go
4:03
way
4:03
worse
4:04
for
4:04
material
4:05
than
4:05
watching
4:06
K
4:06
Pop
4:06
Demon
4:07
Hunters.
4:09
Then
4:09
as
4:09
well,
4:09
I
4:10
saw
4:10
Good
4:10
Boy,
4:11
which
4:11
is
4:12
one
4:12
of
4:12
those
4:13
films
4:13
I
4:13
was
4:13
kind
4:13
of
4:14
hesitant
4:14
about.
4:15
It's
4:15
like
4:15
I
4:16
was
4:16
afraid
4:16
because
4:16
the
4:17
premise
4:17
is
4:17
from
4:18
the
4:18
not
4:18
the
4:18
POV
4:19
as
4:19
in
4:19
shot
4:19
that
4:20
way,
4:20
but
4:20
from
4:20
the
4:20
POV
4:21
of
4:21
a
4:21
dog
4:23
who
4:23
is
4:23
moving
4:24
to
4:24
a
4:24
haunted
4:24
house
4:24
with
4:25
his
4:25
owner
4:25
and
4:26
the
4:26
repercussions
4:27
of
4:27
dealing
4:27
with
4:27
that.
4:27
It
4:28
kind
4:28
of
4:28
was
4:28
one
4:28
of
4:28
those
4:29
things
4:29
that
4:29
kind
4:29
of
4:29
feels
4:29
like
4:29
the
4:30
idea
4:30
was
4:30
had
4:30
first
4:31
and
4:31
then
4:32
there
4:32
was
4:32
no
4:32
story
4:32
or
4:32
character
4:33
was
4:33
my
4:34
fear.
4:34
But.
4:34
But
4:34
you
4:34
know
4:34
what?
4:35
It
4:35
turned
4:35
out
4:35
to
4:35
be
4:35
a
4:35
pretty
4:35
charming
4:36
film.
4:37
I'm
4:37
not
4:37
an
4:37
animal
4:38
pet
4:38
owner
4:39
by
4:39
any
4:39
stretch
4:40
of
4:40
the
4:40
imagination,
4:40
but
4:41
it
4:41
made
4:42
me
4:42
feel
4:42
some
4:42
things.
4:42
It
4:42
did
4:43
a
4:43
good
4:43
job
4:43
there.
4:44
Let's
4:45
see.
4:45
Oh,
4:45
my
4:46
other.
4:46
My
4:46
last
4:46
one
4:47
is
4:48
Pokemon
4:48
Legends
4:49
Za
4:50
and
4:51
that's
4:51
the
4:51
newest
4:52
Pokemon
4:52
game.
4:53
I
4:53
have
4:54
some
4:54
gripes
4:54
with
4:54
it,
4:54
but
4:55
overall
4:55
I'm
4:55
enjoying
4:55
the
4:55
experience.
4:56
So
4:57
yeah,
4:57
that's
4:57
my
4:57
lightning
4:58
round.
4:59
Right
4:59
on.
4:59
I'm
5:00
very
5:00
surprised.
5:00
I
5:01
haven't
5:01
watched
5:01
K
5:01
Pop
5:02
yet.
5:02
I
5:02
mean,
5:02
I
5:02
know
5:03
it's
5:03
a
5:03
huge
5:03
sensation
5:04
right
5:04
now
5:04
and
5:05
I
5:05
will
5:05
get
5:05
to
5:05
it
5:05
because
5:06
I
5:06
mean
5:06
just
5:06
it
5:07
seems
5:07
right
5:07
up
5:07
my
5:07
alley
5:08
in
5:08
terms
5:08
of
5:08
I
5:08
love
5:09
animation.
5:09
I
5:09
love
5:09
that
5:10
style.
5:10
I
5:11
will
5:11
get
5:11
to
5:11
that
5:11
soon
5:12
for
5:12
my
5:12
picks.
5:13
So
5:13
I
5:13
just
5:14
did
5:14
a
5:14
full
5:14
rewatch
5:15
of
5:15
Stranger
5:15
Things.
5:16
Anyone
5:17
who
5:17
knows
5:18
me
5:18
knows
5:18
it's
5:19
my
5:19
favorite
5:19
show
5:19
and
5:20
we
5:20
did
5:21
kind
5:21
of
5:21
overview
5:22
of
5:22
the
5:23
show
5:23
with
5:23
me,
5:24
Will
5:24
and
5:24
Laura
5:24
earlier
5:25
this
5:25
year.
5:26
We'll
5:26
be
5:26
doing
5:26
more
5:27
in
5:27
depth,
5:27
particularly
5:28
with
5:28
the
5:28
final
5:28
season
5:29
coming
5:29
up.
5:30
But
5:30
it's.
5:30
Yeah,
5:31
it's
5:31
my
5:31
favorite
5:31
show.
5:32
I
5:32
am
5:33
very
5:33
excited.
5:33
I
5:33
was
5:34
just
5:34
talking
5:34
with
5:34
Christian
5:34
before
5:34
we
5:35
started
5:35
recording.
5:36
They
5:36
announced
5:36
that
5:36
they
5:37
will
5:37
have
5:37
the
5:38
series
5:38
finale
5:39
in
5:39
theaters
5:40
on
5:40
New
5:40
Year's
5:41
Eve
5:41
and
5:41
I
5:41
cannot
5:41
wait
5:42
for
5:42
that.
5:42
So
5:43
there's
5:43
my
5:43
New
5:43
Year's
5:44
Eve
5:44
plans
5:44
right
5:44
there.
5:45
So
5:45
very
5:46
excited
5:46
for
5:46
that.
5:46
The
5:46
other
5:47
one
5:47
I
5:47
want
5:47
to
5:47
highlight
5:48
is
5:48
HBO's
5:49
the
5:49
Chair
5:49
Company,
5:50
which
5:51
is
5:51
the
5:51
new
5:51
Tim
5:51
Robinson
5:52
series.
5:52
I
5:52
know
5:53
Evan
5:53
and
5:53
I
5:53
were
5:53
texting
5:54
about
5:54
this
5:54
earlier.
5:55
He
5:55
also
5:56
loved
5:56
Friendship,
5:57
the
5:57
movie
5:58
that
5:58
came
5:58
out
5:58
earlier
5:59
this
5:59
year,
5:59
and
5:59
it
6:00
very
6:00
much
6:00
has
6:01
that
6:01
same
6:01
feel.
6:02
The
6:02
Chair
6:03
Company
6:03
is
6:04
Tim
6:04
Robinson
6:05
Vehicle
6:05
where
6:06
he
6:06
plays
6:06
a
6:06
character
6:07
who
6:07
has
6:08
an
6:08
incident
6:08
at
6:09
work
6:09
that's
6:09
humiliating
6:10
and
6:10
it
6:10
sends
6:10
him
6:11
down
6:11
this
6:11
rabbit
6:11
hole
6:12
investigating
6:13
a
6:13
manufacturer
6:14
of
6:14
a
6:15
chair.
6:16
Then
6:16
it's
6:17
very
6:18
much
6:18
a
6:18
fusion
6:19
of
6:19
comedy
6:19
and
6:19
horror.
6:20
Much
6:20
like
6:21
friendship.
6:21
If
6:22
you
6:22
like
6:22
the
6:23
very
6:23
awkward,
6:24
cringy
6:25
style
6:25
of
6:25
Tim
6:26
Robinson's
6:26
comedy,
6:27
I
6:27
think
6:27
you
6:27
will
6:27
love
6:28
this
6:28
series.
6:28
It's
6:29
only
6:29
two
6:29
episodes
6:29
in
6:30
so
6:30
far,
6:30
but
6:30
that's
6:31
given
6:31
me
6:31
something
6:31
to
6:32
look
6:32
forward
6:32
to
6:33
each
6:33
week
6:33
on
6:34
Sunday
6:34
night.
6:34
So.
6:35
So
6:35
those
6:35
are
6:36
my
6:36
picks.
6:36
Evan,
6:37
what
6:37
about
6:37
you?
6:37
What
6:37
are
6:37
your
6:38
lightning
6:38
round
6:38
picks
6:39
here?
6:39
Yes,
6:40
it
6:40
was
6:41
my
6:41
first
6:42
one
6:42
I'll
6:42
do
6:42
is
6:43
a
6:43
friendship
6:43
that.
6:44
That.
6:45
The.
6:45
That
6:46
that
6:46
had
6:46
Tim
6:47
Robbins
6:47
joint,
6:48
like
6:49
you
6:49
said.
6:49
For
6:49
all
6:49
those
6:50
reasons,
6:50
it's
6:51
very.
6:52
It's
6:52
like
6:52
a
6:53
car
6:53
accident
6:54
that
6:54
you
6:55
can't
6:55
look
6:56
away
6:56
from.
6:56
It's.
6:57
It's
6:57
really
6:58
bad.
6:58
It's
6:58
really
6:59
bad.
6:59
But.
7:00
But
7:01
in
7:01
a
7:01
way,
7:01
it's
7:02
all
7:02
the
7:03
things
7:03
that
7:03
good
7:03
TV
7:04
is.
7:04
But
7:05
other
7:05
than
7:06
that,
7:06
my
7:06
wife
7:07
and
7:07
I,
7:07
we
7:07
are
7:07
doing
7:08
the
7:08
Wheel
7:08
of
7:09
Time.
7:09
That's
7:10
a.
7:10
That's
7:10
a
7:11
prime
7:11
show.
7:11
And.
7:13
And
7:13
we
7:14
were
7:14
just
7:14
looking
7:14
for
7:15
something
7:15
to.
7:16
To.
7:17
Oh,
7:17
to.
7:18
To
7:18
start
7:19
watching
7:19
in
7:19
the
7:19
background.
7:20
But
7:20
then
7:20
we
7:20
got
7:21
unhooked
7:21
on
7:21
it
7:22
and
7:22
we're
7:22
on.
7:24
We're
7:24
on
7:24
season
7:25
two.
7:25
We
7:26
know
7:26
that.
7:27
That
7:27
it
7:27
wasn't
7:28
picked
7:28
up
7:28
to
7:28
be
7:28
finished.
7:29
So
7:31
still,
7:31
the
7:32
show's
7:32
pretty
7:32
good
7:32
and
7:33
we
7:33
are
7:34
enjoying
7:34
it.
7:35
That's
7:35
about
7:36
it.
7:36
Yeah,
7:37
I.
7:37
I've
7:37
heard
7:38
from.
7:38
Yeah,
7:38
so
7:38
I've.
7:39
I've
7:39
not
7:39
gone
7:39
down
7:40
the
7:40
rabbit
7:40
hole
7:40
of
7:40
re.
7:41
I
7:41
have,
7:41
I
7:41
think
7:41
one
7:41
of
7:42
the
7:42
Wheel
7:42
of
7:42
Time
7:42
books,
7:43
but
7:44
there.
7:44
It's
7:44
an
7:45
intimidating
7:45
series
7:45
to
7:45
get
7:46
into.
7:46
But
7:46
I've
7:46
heard
7:47
mixed
7:47
things
7:47
from
7:48
fans
7:48
of
7:48
the
7:49
books
7:49
who
7:50
have
7:50
watched
7:50
the
7:50
show,
7:50
but
7:51
I've
7:51
heard
7:51
kind
7:51
of
7:52
if
7:52
you
7:52
just
7:52
watch
7:52
the
7:53
show
7:53
independently,
7:54
it's
7:54
a
7:54
decent
7:54
series.
7:55
I
7:55
may
7:55
get
7:56
to
7:56
it
7:56
eventually,
7:56
but
7:56
it's
7:57
just
7:57
hasn't
7:57
been
7:57
on
7:57
my
7:58
top
7:58
of
7:58
my
7:59
radar.
8:00
But,
8:00
yeah,
8:00
friendship
8:01
was.
8:02
It
8:02
was
8:02
the
8:02
hardest
8:02
I
8:03
laughed
8:03
in
8:03
a
8:03
theater
8:03
in
8:04
a
8:04
while
8:04
when
8:04
I
8:04
saw
8:05
that
8:05
back
8:05
in
8:05
May.
8:06
It's
8:06
just
8:06
so
8:06
cringey.
8:07
And.
8:07
And
8:07
the
8:07
director
8:08
of
8:08
that
8:08
movie
8:08
is
8:09
also
8:09
a
8:09
producer
8:10
and
8:10
director
8:10
on
8:11
the
8:11
chair
8:11
company.
8:12
So
8:12
again,
8:12
if
8:13
it.
8:13
If
8:13
that's.
8:13
I
8:14
know
8:14
it's
8:14
a
8:14
very
8:14
specific
8:15
style
8:15
of
8:15
comedy,
8:16
but
8:16
if
8:16
it
8:17
appeals
8:17
to
8:17
you,
8:17
I
8:18
think
8:18
you
8:18
will
8:18
like
8:18
the
8:18
show
8:19
and
8:19
you
8:19
love
8:19
that
8:19
movie.
8:20
There
8:21
we
8:21
go.
8:21
Awesome.
8:22
Excellent.
8:23
Well,
8:23
thanks,
8:23
guys.
8:23
So
8:24
let
8:24
us
8:24
get
8:25
into
8:25
the
8:25
main
8:25
topics
8:26
tonight.
8:26
The
8:27
first
8:27
is
8:27
one
8:28
I
8:28
got
8:28
to
8:29
on
8:29
my
8:30
birthday
8:30
this
8:30
week.
8:30
Christian
8:31
and
8:31
I
8:31
both
8:31
had
8:32
our
8:32
birthdays
8:32
this
8:32
week,
8:32
so
8:33
we're
8:33
another
8:33
year
8:34
older,
8:34
maybe
8:35
wiser.
8:35
I
8:36
don't
8:36
know.
8:36
We'll
8:36
leave
8:36
that
8:37
to
8:37
the
8:37
discretion
8:37
of
8:37
people
8:38
we
8:38
know.
8:39
Exactly.
8:41
We
8:41
are.
8:41
Nice.
8:42
Yeah.
8:43
Yeah.
8:43
The.
8:44
The.
8:45
Oh,
8:45
right
8:45
on.
8:45
Right
8:46
on
8:46
the
8:46
29th.
8:48
Happy
8:48
almost
8:48
birthday.
8:49
Right
8:49
on
8:49
Almost.
8:50
Cool.
8:51
It's
8:51
a
8:51
good
8:51
month.
8:52
Very
8:52
cool.
8:52
People
8:52
are
8:53
born
8:53
this
8:53
month.
8:54
Not.
8:55
Not
8:55
to
8:55
bash
8:55
the
8:56
other
8:56
ones,
8:56
but,
8:56
you
8:57
know,
8:57
we
8:57
got
8:57
some
8:57
cool
8:57
people.
8:58
In
8:58
October
8:58
to
8:58
feel
8:59
superior
8:59
then.
9:00
Exactly.
9:01
You
9:01
said
9:01
it.
9:01
Nothing.
9:02
Well.
9:03
Oh,
9:03
yeah,
9:03
right.
9:04
Well,
9:05
on
9:05
my
9:05
birthday,
9:05
I
9:06
got
9:06
to
9:06
see
9:06
Black
9:06
Phone
9:07
2.
9:07
So
9:08
this
9:08
was.
9:09
This
9:10
is
9:10
the
9:10
sequel
9:10
to
9:11
the
9:11
2021
9:12
Scott
9:13
Derrickson
9:13
film
9:14
that
9:14
is
9:14
based
9:15
on
9:15
a
9:15
short
9:15
story
9:16
by
9:16
Joe
9:16
Hill.
9:17
And
9:18
I
9:18
really
9:18
enjoyed
9:19
the
9:19
first
9:19
one.
9:19
I
9:20
read
9:20
the
9:20
short
9:20
story
9:21
as
9:21
well.
9:22
The,
9:22
you
9:22
know,
9:22
the
9:22
first
9:23
one,
9:23
it
9:24
deals
9:24
with
9:24
supernatural
9:25
elements,
9:25
but
9:25
it's
9:26
mostly
9:26
about
9:26
this
9:27
kid
9:27
who
9:28
is
9:28
captured
9:29
by
9:31
this
9:32
villain
9:32
called
9:32
the
9:32
Grabber,
9:33
who
9:33
has
9:33
been
9:34
abducting
9:34
and
9:35
killing
9:35
kids.
9:36
And.
9:38
And
9:38
it
9:39
is
9:39
this
9:39
kind
9:40
of,
9:40
you
9:40
know,
9:40
survival
9:40
mystery,
9:41
thriller
9:41
horror
9:42
story
9:42
that
9:43
has
9:43
a
9:43
supernatural
9:44
element
9:44
to
9:44
it
9:44
as
9:45
well,
9:45
with
9:46
the
9:47
main
9:47
character,
9:47
Finn.
9:48
His
9:48
sister
9:49
Gwen
9:49
has
9:50
kind
9:50
of
9:50
psychic
9:51
visions
9:51
about,
9:52
and
9:52
that
9:53
helps
9:53
her
9:54
work
9:54
lead
9:54
the
9:54
police
9:55
to
9:55
where
9:55
Finn
9:56
is
9:56
eventually.
9:57
And
9:57
I
9:58
really
9:58
like
9:58
that
9:58
movie
9:58
a
9:59
lot.
9:59
It
9:59
works
9:59
great
9:59
as
9:59
a
9:59
standalone.
10:00
And
10:01
when
10:01
they
10:01
did
10:02
announce
10:02
a
10:02
sequel
10:02
to
10:03
this,
10:03
I
10:03
was
10:03
really
10:04
interested
10:04
because
10:05
both
10:05
Scott
10:05
Derrickson,
10:06
the
10:06
director
10:07
and
10:07
co
10:07
writer,
10:08
and
10:08
then
10:08
also
10:08
C.
10:09
Robert
10:09
Cargill,
10:10
the
10:10
co
10:11
writer,
10:12
these
10:12
are
10:12
the
10:12
guys
10:13
who
10:13
did
10:13
the
10:13
first
10:14
Doctor
10:14
Strange
10:14
movie,
10:15
Sinister.
10:17
Neither
10:17
of
10:17
them
10:17
are
10:18
big
10:18
on
10:18
sequels,
10:19
and
10:19
even
10:20
though
10:20
the
10:20
studio
10:20
pressured
10:21
them
10:21
to
10:22
make
10:22
one,
10:23
they
10:23
were
10:23
actually
10:23
reluctant
10:24
to
10:24
do
10:24
this.
10:25
And
10:25
so
10:26
they
10:27
only
10:27
wanted
10:27
to
10:28
do
10:28
this
10:28
movie
10:28
if
10:28
they
10:29
had
10:29
a
10:29
good
10:29
story
10:29
in
10:29
mind.
10:30
And
10:30
it
10:30
was
10:30
actually
10:31
Joe
10:31
Hill
10:32
emailed
10:33
them
10:33
with
10:34
the
10:34
initial
10:35
idea
10:35
for
10:36
a
10:36
pitch,
10:36
and
10:36
that
10:36
was
10:37
because.
10:38
Spoiler
10:38
alert.
10:39
But
10:39
at
10:39
the
10:39
end
10:39
of
10:39
the
10:40
first
10:40
movie,
10:41
Finney,
10:41
the
10:42
main
10:42
character,
10:42
kills
10:43
the
10:43
Grabber
10:45
before
10:45
the
10:45
cops
10:45
arrive.
10:46
But
10:46
in
10:46
this
10:47
movie,
10:47
the.
10:48
The
10:49
tagline
10:50
that
10:50
Joe
10:50
Hill
10:50
gave
10:51
to
10:52
Derek
10:52
sending
10:52
Cargill
10:53
was,
10:53
what
10:53
if
10:54
the
10:54
Grabber
10:54
is
10:55
calling
10:56
Finney
10:56
from
10:57
the
10:57
black
10:57
phone
10:57
from
10:58
hell?
10:58
And
10:58
that
10:59
was
10:59
sort
10:59
of
10:59
the.
11:00
The
11:01
idea
11:01
that
11:02
led
11:02
to
11:02
this
11:03
story.
11:03
And
11:04
so.
11:04
Well,
11:05
Christian,
11:05
I
11:05
want
11:05
to
11:05
hand
11:05
it
11:06
over
11:06
to
11:06
you
11:06
first.
11:06
What
11:06
were
11:07
your
11:07
initial
11:07
thoughts
11:07
on
11:08
this
11:08
movie?
11:08
Because
11:08
I
11:09
did
11:09
really
11:09
enjoy
11:09
it,
11:09
and
11:10
there's
11:10
actually
11:10
several
11:11
little
11:11
themes
11:11
I
11:11
want
11:12
to
11:12
talk
11:12
about
11:14
in.
11:14
In
11:14
regards
11:15
to
11:15
what
11:15
it
11:16
does
11:16
with
11:16
this.
11:16
With
11:17
the
11:17
sequel.
11:18
Yeah,
11:18
I
11:19
was
11:19
kind
11:20
of
11:20
hesitant
11:20
to
11:21
put
11:21
a
11:21
sequel
11:21
here
11:21
because,
11:22
you
11:22
know,
11:22
franchises,
11:23
Hollywood
11:23
horror
11:24
franchises
11:24
especially,
11:25
that
11:26
quality
11:26
is
11:27
all
11:27
over
11:27
the
11:27
place.
11:28
And
11:28
it's
11:29
like,
11:29
does
11:29
it
11:30
need
11:30
a
11:30
sequel?
11:31
And
11:31
I
11:32
didn't.
11:32
Wasn't
11:33
outright,
11:33
it
11:33
doesn't
11:33
need
11:34
one.
11:34
But
11:34
I
11:34
was
11:34
like,
11:34
okay,
11:35
let's
11:35
see
11:35
what
11:35
they
11:35
do.
11:36
And
11:36
I
11:36
was
11:37
very
11:37
pleasantly
11:37
surprised
11:38
by
11:38
this
11:38
one.
11:39
I
11:39
think
11:39
they
11:39
build
11:40
up
11:40
on
11:40
what
11:40
happened
11:41
before.
11:41
Extremely
11:42
well.
11:43
In
11:43
my
11:43
opinion,
11:44
this
11:44
is
11:44
the
11:45
best
11:45
Nightmare
11:45
on
11:46
Elm
11:46
street
11:46
movie
11:46
we've
11:47
gotten
11:47
in
11:47
over
11:47
two
11:48
decades.
11:50
Seeing
11:50
that
11:50
that
11:50
series
11:51
is
11:51
in
11:51
limbo
11:51
at
11:52
the
11:52
moment
11:53
because,
11:54
you
11:54
know,
11:54
obviously
11:54
there
11:55
were
11:55
very.
11:56
Some
11:56
supernatural
11:57
focuses
11:57
of
11:57
the
11:57
original
11:58
film.
11:58
They
11:59
build
11:59
off
11:59
of
11:59
that
12:00
way
12:00
more.
12:00
And
12:00
I
12:00
know
12:01
that's
12:01
been
12:01
polarizing
12:02
to
12:02
some
12:02
people,
12:03
but,
12:03
you
12:03
know,
12:04
but
12:04
it's
12:04
also
12:04
sequels.
12:05
You
12:05
kind
12:05
of
12:05
heighten
12:06
things
12:06
a
12:06
little
12:06
bit.
12:06
It
12:07
makes
12:07
sense
12:07
within
12:07
the
12:08
lore
12:08
they've
12:08
kind
12:08
of
12:08
established,
12:09
and
12:09
now
12:10
they're
12:10
building
12:10
up
12:10
a
12:10
little
12:11
more
12:11
with
12:11
it
12:11
there.
12:12
The
12:12
Grabber
12:13
and
12:13
his
12:13
backstory
12:14
and
12:14
why,
12:15
how
12:15
he's
12:15
able
12:15
to
12:16
come
12:16
back
12:16
and
12:16
how
12:17
he's
12:17
able
12:17
to
12:17
target
12:18
people
12:19
this
12:19
time
12:19
around.
12:20
I
12:20
think
12:20
they
12:21
did
12:21
tremendous
12:22
job
12:22
with
12:24
May
12:24
end
12:24
up
12:24
in
12:25
my
12:25
top
12:25
10,
12:25
you
12:26
know,
12:26
at
12:26
the
12:26
end
12:26
of
12:27
the
12:27
year.
12:27
I'd
12:27
have
12:27
to
12:27
compile
12:28
it
12:28
number
12:28
one,
12:29
before
12:29
I
12:29
actually
12:29
made
12:30
that
12:30
statement,
12:30
but
12:31
I
12:31
really
12:31
enjoyed
12:32
this.
13:16
Yeah,
13:16
I
13:17
totally
13:17
agree.
13:17
I
13:18
think
13:18
the.
13:18
The
13:18
Nightmare
13:19
on
13:19
Elm
13:19
street
13:19
influence
13:20
was
13:21
apparent
13:21
and
13:22
executed
13:22
really
13:22
well
13:23
here.
13:23
This
13:23
was,
13:23
you
13:24
know,
13:24
they
13:24
definitely
13:25
had
13:25
a
13:25
lot
13:25
in
13:25
common
13:26
with
13:26
Dream
13:26
warriors,
13:27
which
13:28
is
13:28
probably
13:28
my
13:28
favorite
13:29
of
13:29
the
13:29
series.
13:30
That
13:30
and
13:31
New
13:31
Nightmare,
13:31
I
13:31
think
13:31
are
13:32
pretty
13:32
great.
13:33
But,
13:33
yeah,
13:34
it
13:34
built
13:34
on
13:35
those
13:35
themes.
13:35
And
13:35
in
13:35
terms
13:36
of
13:36
the
13:36
reason
13:36
I
13:36
wanted
13:36
to
13:37
talk
13:37
about
13:37
it
13:37
here
13:37
too
13:38
is
13:38
the
13:38
religious
13:39
themes
13:39
here
13:39
and
13:40
how
13:41
it
13:41
explores
13:41
that
13:42
was,
13:42
I
13:43
thought,
13:43
really
13:43
fascinating.
13:43
And,
13:44
you
13:44
know,
13:44
this
13:44
is
13:44
something
13:45
we
13:45
brought
13:45
up
13:45
on
13:46
the
13:46
show
13:46
a
13:46
lot
13:46
is
13:47
when
13:48
particularly
13:48
the
13:49
horror
13:49
genre
13:50
deals
13:50
with
13:50
religious
13:51
characters,
13:52
they're
13:52
often
13:52
portrayed
13:53
in
13:54
stereotypical,
13:55
negative
13:55
ways.
13:56
You
13:57
can
13:57
almost
13:57
always
13:58
count
13:58
on
13:59
the
13:59
priest
14:00
being
14:00
a
14:00
villain
14:00
or
14:02
the
14:02
religious
14:02
leader
14:03
or,
14:04
you
14:04
know,
14:04
it
14:04
rarely
14:05
do
14:05
they
14:05
win.
14:05
This
14:06
isn't
14:06
exclusively
14:06
to
14:07
Christians
14:07
too.
14:07
It's
14:07
just
14:08
like
14:08
people
14:08
of
14:08
faith
14:09
in
14:09
general
14:09
in
14:09
horror,
14:10
they
14:11
tend
14:11
to
14:11
demonize
14:12
and
14:12
they
14:12
tend
14:12
to
14:12
demonize
14:13
religion.
14:13
And,
14:14
you
14:14
know,
14:14
like
14:15
Scott
14:15
Derrickson
14:15
is
14:15
not
14:16
a
14:16
person
14:16
of
14:16
faith,
14:16
but
14:16
he
14:17
did
14:17
have
14:18
a
14:18
Christian
14:19
background.
14:19
And
14:20
the.
14:21
The
14:21
setting
14:21
of
14:21
this
13:37
movie,
14:22
we
14:22
didn't
14:22
say,
14:23
but.
14:23
So
14:24
the
14:24
main
14:24
story
14:25
involves
14:26
Finney
14:27
and
14:27
Gwen
14:27
are
14:28
now
14:28
in
14:28
high
14:28
school.
14:29
Finney
14:30
is
14:30
still
14:30
dealing
14:31
with
14:31
the
14:31
trauma
14:31
of
14:32
what
14:32
happened
14:32
to
14:32
him
14:33
with
14:33
the
14:33
Grabber,
14:34
and
14:34
he
14:34
hasn't
14:34
fully
14:35
processed
14:35
that,
14:35
and
14:36
he's
14:36
often
14:37
exhibiting
14:38
that
14:38
in.
14:40
In
14:41
bursts
14:41
of
14:41
anger
14:42
and
14:42
fights
14:42
at
14:42
school.
14:43
And
14:44
meanwhile,
14:45
Gwen
14:45
is
14:46
having
14:46
visions
14:46
again,
14:47
this
14:47
time
14:47
of
14:47
her
14:48
mother,
14:48
who,
14:49
when
14:50
she
14:50
was
14:50
younger,
14:51
she
14:51
was
14:52
at
14:52
this
14:52
Christian
14:53
summer
14:53
camp
14:54
in
14:54
Colorado.
14:55
And.
14:55
And
14:56
so
14:56
she
14:56
starts
14:56
having
14:57
these
14:57
visions
14:57
that
14:57
connect
14:58
to
14:59
her
14:59
there.
15:00
And
15:01
this
15:02
leads
15:02
her
15:03
to
15:03
want
15:04
to
15:04
go
15:05
to
15:05
that
15:06
camp
15:06
and
15:06
out
15:07
in
15:07
the
15:07
mountains
15:08
and.
15:09
And
15:09
try
15:09
to
15:09
get
15:09
answers.
15:10
For
15:10
why
15:10
she's
15:10
having
15:10
these
15:11
visions
15:11
and
15:12
also
15:12
help
15:13
Finney
15:13
deal
15:13
with
15:13
his
15:14
trauma.
15:14
And
15:14
so
15:14
that.
15:15
That's
15:15
where
15:15
it
15:15
takes
15:16
place.
15:16
And
15:16
I
15:17
think
15:17
it
15:17
was
15:17
Derrickson
15:18
and
15:18
pretty
15:18
see
15:19
Robert
15:19
Cargill.
15:19
I
15:20
think
15:20
this
15:20
was
15:20
Cargill.
15:21
He
15:21
had
15:22
also
15:22
this
15:22
experience
15:23
at
15:23
working
15:24
at
15:24
this
15:24
Christian
15:25
summer
15:25
camp
15:25
when
15:25
he
15:26
was
15:26
younger.
15:26
And
15:27
when
15:27
he
15:27
was
15:27
there,
15:28
there
15:28
was
15:29
actually
15:30
a
15:30
serial
15:31
killer
15:31
who
15:32
never
15:33
got
15:33
caught
15:34
and
15:34
they
15:34
had
15:34
to
15:35
shut
15:35
the
15:35
camp
15:35
down.
15:36
So
15:36
a
15:36
lot
15:36
of
15:36
their
15:36
experiences
15:37
growing
15:38
up
15:38
really
15:38
informed
15:39
this
15:39
story
15:40
in
15:40
particular.
15:40
And
15:41
that's
15:41
what
15:41
I
15:41
like
15:41
a
15:41
lot
15:41
about
15:42
Derrickson's
15:42
films
15:42
is
15:43
he
15:43
draws
15:43
on
15:43
a
15:43
lot
15:43
of
15:44
personal
15:44
elements
15:44
and
15:45
his
15:46
collaboration
15:46
with
15:46
Cargill
15:47
is
15:47
really
15:47
fluid.
15:48
But
15:48
going
15:49
back
15:49
to
15:49
what
15:49
I
15:49
was
15:49
saying
15:49
about
15:51
how,
15:51
you
15:51
know,
15:52
negative
15:53
the
15:53
portrayal
15:54
is
15:54
of
15:55
religious
15:56
figures
15:56
in
15:57
horror
15:58
often
15:59
here,
15:59
it,
16:00
I
16:00
thought,
16:00
does
16:00
a
16:01
really
16:01
good
16:01
job
16:02
with
16:02
the
16:02
portrayal
16:03
of
16:03
these
16:03
characters
16:04
who
16:04
are
16:04
people
16:04
of
16:04
faith.
16:05
Granted,
16:05
there
16:05
is
16:05
one.
16:06
Well,
16:06
two,
16:06
really.
16:07
There's
16:07
a
16:08
couple
16:08
there
16:08
who
16:09
you
16:09
do
16:10
strongly
16:11
dislike
16:11
and
16:11
that
16:12
are
16:12
the
16:12
very,
16:13
you
16:13
know,
16:14
judgmental
16:16
counselors
16:16
who
16:16
are
16:17
like,
16:17
you
16:17
know,
16:18
young
16:18
lady,
16:18
stop
16:19
with
16:19
your
16:19
vulgar
16:20
language
16:20
and
16:20
stuff
16:20
like
16:20
that.
16:21
And.
16:21
And
16:21
they're
16:22
more
16:22
concerned
16:22
with
16:22
their
16:22
own
16:23
safety
16:23
than.
16:24
Than,
16:25
you
16:25
know,
16:25
helping
16:26
find
16:27
the
16:27
root
16:27
of
16:27
the
16:27
evil
16:28
that's
16:28
been
16:28
plaguing
16:29
this
16:29
campsite
16:30
for
16:30
so
16:30
long.
16:31
And,
16:31
you
16:32
know,
16:32
so
16:32
it
16:32
has
16:32
those
16:33
two
16:33
characters,
16:33
but
16:34
on
16:34
the
16:34
flip
16:34
side,
16:35
everyone
16:35
else
16:35
that
16:35
they
16:36
meet
16:36
here
16:36
are
16:37
genuinely
16:38
nuanced
16:38
people
16:39
of
16:39
faith.
16:39
They're
16:40
well
16:40
fleshed
16:40
out
16:40
characters
16:41
in
16:41
particular.
16:42
The
16:42
director
16:43
of
16:43
the
16:43
camp
16:44
is
16:45
this
16:45
guy
16:46
who
16:46
acts
16:47
sort
16:47
of
16:47
as
16:47
a
16:47
mentor,
16:48
fatherly
16:49
figure
16:49
to
16:49
Finney
16:50
in
16:51
many
16:51
respects.
16:52
And
16:52
he
16:53
is
16:53
easily
16:54
one
16:54
of
16:54
my
16:54
favorite
16:54
supporting
16:55
characters
16:55
of
16:55
the
16:55
movie
16:56
is,
16:57
you
16:57
know,
16:57
is
16:58
the
16:58
direct
16:58
opposite
16:59
of
16:59
the
16:59
other
17:00
person.
17:00
He's
17:01
not
17:01
judgmental.
17:02
He's
17:02
very
17:03
concerning.
17:03
He's
17:03
not,
17:04
you
17:04
know,
17:04
trying
17:05
to,
17:06
you
17:06
know,
17:07
shove
17:08
scripture
17:08
down
17:08
anyone's
17:09
throat
17:09
or.
17:10
Or
17:11
just
17:11
be
17:11
antagonistic.
17:12
He
17:12
wants
17:13
really
17:13
help
17:13
Finn
17:14
and
17:14
Gwenny
17:14
a
17:15
lot,
17:15
Finney
17:16
and
17:16
Gwen
17:17
deal
17:17
with
17:18
this
17:18
evil
17:18
that,
17:19
again,
17:19
has
17:19
been
17:19
plaguing
17:20
the
17:20
campsite
17:21
for
17:21
so
17:21
long.
17:21
So
17:22
I
17:22
really
17:22
liked
17:23
that
17:23
aspect
17:23
and
17:23
how
17:24
it
17:24
explores
17:24
all
17:25
those
17:25
themes
17:25
and
17:25
how
17:26
it
17:26
connects
17:26
to
17:27
the
17:27
grabber
17:28
as
17:28
this
17:28
demonic
17:29
force
17:29
and
17:31
looking
17:31
at
17:32
the
17:32
evil
17:33
in
17:33
this
17:34
world.
17:34
And,
17:35
yeah,
17:35
so
17:35
I
17:35
thought
17:35
it
17:36
did
17:36
a
17:36
really
17:36
great
17:36
job
17:36
with
17:37
those
17:37
characters
17:38
and
17:38
giving
17:39
that
17:39
nuance
17:39
that
17:40
a
17:40
lot
17:41
of
17:41
horror
17:41
stories
17:42
lack
17:42
when
17:42
it
17:42
comes
17:42
to
17:43
dealing
17:43
with
17:44
religious
17:44
characters.
17:45
So,
17:45
yeah,
17:46
I
17:46
don't
17:46
if
17:47
you
17:47
wanted
17:47
to
17:47
expand
17:47
on
17:47
that
17:48
or
17:48
anything.
17:49
Oh,
17:49
yeah,
17:49
absolutely.
17:50
In
17:50
any
17:51
other
17:51
horror
17:51
film,
17:52
the
17:52
couple
17:54
can't
17:54
remember
17:55
their
17:55
proper
17:55
names
17:55
off
17:56
one
17:56
of
17:56
them,
17:56
I
17:56
think
17:57
One
17:57
Barb
17:57
is
17:57
one
17:57
of
17:57
their
17:58
names.
17:58
Yeah,
17:58
is
17:59
the
17:59
wife's
17:59
name.
18:02
They
18:02
would
18:02
just
18:02
be
18:03
the
18:03
only
18:03
religious
18:04
characters
18:05
in
18:05
the
18:05
film,
18:06
in
18:06
any
18:06
other
18:07
horror
18:07
movie.
18:08
But
18:08
instead,
18:08
what
18:09
we
18:09
get
18:09
is
18:09
those
18:09
characters
18:10
who
18:10
exist
18:11
in
18:11
the
18:11
world
18:12
and.
18:12
And
18:12
are
18:13
an
18:13
archetype
18:13
are
18:14
a
18:14
cliche
18:14
for
18:14
a
18:15
reason,
18:15
because
18:15
they
18:15
do
18:15
exist.
18:17
This
18:17
is
18:18
going
18:19
back
18:19
to
18:19
the
18:19
mist.
18:20
This
18:21
would
18:21
be
18:21
Carmody,
18:22
or
18:22
whatever
18:23
her
18:23
name
18:23
is,
18:24
the
18:24
religious
18:25
zealot
18:25
who
18:26
doesn't
18:26
listen
18:27
to
18:27
reason,
18:27
who
18:28
is
18:28
influenced
18:29
by
18:29
scripture
18:30
poorly
18:30
because
18:30
she's
18:31
been
18:31
raised
18:31
poorly
18:31
and
18:32
doesn't
18:32
understand
18:32
the
18:32
things
18:33
she's
18:33
believing
18:34
in.
18:35
Versus
18:36
Armando,
18:37
I
18:37
think,
18:37
is
18:37
the
18:37
name
18:38
of
18:38
the
18:39
leader
18:39
of
18:39
the
18:39
camp
18:40
and
18:41
he
18:41
is
18:41
the
18:41
one.
18:42
You
18:42
get
18:42
some
18:43
nice
18:43
dialogue
18:43
with
18:43
him
18:44
of
18:44
why
18:44
he's
18:45
so
18:45
invested
18:45
in
18:46
this.
18:46
And
18:47
there's
18:47
some
18:47
stuff
18:47
that
18:47
you
18:47
can
18:48
also
18:48
pick
18:48
up
18:48
along
18:48
the
18:48
way
18:49
that's
18:49
not,
18:49
like,
18:49
spelled
18:50
out
18:50
for
18:50
you,
18:51
is
18:51
that
18:51
he
18:51
has
18:52
tattoos
18:52
and
18:52
he's
18:52
like,
18:53
well,
18:53
I
18:53
got
18:53
these
18:54
in
18:54
prison.
18:54
Which
18:54
shows
18:55
me
18:55
there
18:55
was
18:56
a
18:56
time
18:56
in
18:56
his
18:56
life
18:56
when
18:57
he
18:57
lived
18:57
far
18:57
more
18:58
harshly.
18:58
And
18:59
part
18:59
of
19:00
becoming
19:00
the
19:00
man
19:00
that
19:01
he
19:01
is
19:01
now
19:01
is
19:02
his
19:02
faith.
19:03
The
19:04
change
19:04
that
19:04
he
19:04
had
19:05
enabled
19:05
him
19:06
to
19:06
get
19:07
to
19:07
where
19:07
he
19:07
is
19:07
now,
19:07
to
19:07
where
19:08
he
19:08
can
19:08
love
19:08
other
19:08
people
19:08
and
19:09
care
19:09
for
19:09
them
19:09
and
19:09
care
19:09
for
19:10
kids
19:10
who
19:10
nobody
19:10
else
19:11
cares
19:11
about
19:11
because
19:11
they've
19:12
been
19:12
dead
19:12
for
19:12
decades.
19:13
And
19:13
yet
19:14
he
19:14
bought
19:14
the
19:14
place
19:15
for
19:15
the
19:15
camp
19:16
because
19:16
he
19:17
has
19:17
never
19:17
given
19:18
up
19:18
hope
19:18
that
19:18
he
19:18
can
19:19
find
19:19
the
19:19
bodies
19:19
and
19:20
give,
19:20
like,
19:20
relief
19:21
to
19:21
the
19:21
parents
19:22
because
19:22
he
19:22
feels
19:22
like
19:23
they
19:23
let
19:23
them
19:23
down
19:24
and
19:25
he
19:25
can't
19:25
allow
19:26
that.
19:26
It
19:26
goes
19:26
against
19:27
his
19:27
faith.
19:27
It
19:28
goes
19:28
against
19:28
what
19:28
he
19:28
believes.
19:29
And
19:29
then
19:30
even,
19:30
you
19:31
know,
19:31
the
19:31
stereotypical
19:33
couple
19:33
of
19:34
the
19:34
religious
19:34
zealotry
19:35
and
19:36
more
19:36
pharisaical
19:37
and
19:37
how
19:37
they
19:38
approach
19:38
things.
19:39
Yeah,
19:39
they
19:39
start
19:40
off
19:40
rough,
19:40
and
19:40
they're
19:41
still
19:41
rough
19:41
for
19:41
a
19:41
very
19:42
large
19:42
part
19:42
of
19:42
the
19:42
film,
19:43
but
19:44
near
19:44
the
19:44
end,
19:45
they
19:45
can't
19:45
deny
19:46
the
19:46
supernatural
19:47
evidence
19:47
in
19:47
front
19:47
of
19:47
them.
19:48
And
19:48
so
19:48
they
19:49
change.
19:49
They're
19:50
not
19:50
completely
19:51
aware
19:51
Armando
19:52
is
19:52
in
19:52
his
19:52
faith,
19:53
shall
19:53
we
19:53
say,
19:54
but
19:54
they've
19:55
moved
19:56
beyond
19:56
where
19:56
they
19:56
were,
19:57
which
19:57
in
19:58
pretty
19:58
much
19:58
any
19:59
other
19:59
horror
19:59
film,
19:59
especially
20:00
of
20:00
the
20:00
80s,
20:01
in
20:01
the
20:01
midst
20:01
of
20:01
the
20:02
Satanic
20:02
panic
20:02
and
20:03
everything
20:03
where
20:03
Christians,
20:03
they
20:03
were
20:04
just
20:04
evil.
20:04
They
20:04
never
20:04
thought,
20:05
they
20:05
have
20:05
no
20:05
logic
20:06
and
20:06
therefore
20:06
they're
20:07
evil.
20:07
And
20:07
when
20:07
they
20:07
die,
20:08
you're
20:08
cheering.
20:09
And
20:09
sometimes,
20:09
yeah,
20:10
that's
20:10
well
20:10
deserved
20:11
in
20:11
some
20:11
of
20:11
those
20:11
films,
20:11
but
20:11
this
20:12
one
20:12
gives
20:12
them
20:13
character.
20:14
Not
20:14
the
20:14
greatest
20:15
characters
20:15
in
20:15
the
20:15
film,
20:16
but
20:16
it
20:16
gives
20:16
them
20:16
something.
20:18
So
20:18
I
20:18
really
20:18
appreciated
20:19
that.
20:19
And
20:20
even
20:22
gwen
20:23
quotes
20:24
from
20:25
First
20:25
Corinthians
20:25
15,
20:26
which
20:26
is
20:27
quoting
20:27
from
20:27
Hosea
20:28
as
20:28
she's
20:29
spoilers,
20:29
by
20:29
the
20:30
way,
20:31
going
20:31
to
20:31
finally
20:32
kill
20:32
the
20:33
Grabber
20:33
for
20:34
good.
20:34
Even
20:35
though
20:35
from
20:35
beyond
20:35
the
20:36
grave
20:36
he's
20:36
come
20:36
back
20:36
as
20:36
this
20:37
kind
20:37
of
20:37
revenant
20:37
ghost.
20:38
Where
20:39
O
20:39
death
20:39
is
20:39
your
20:39
victory,
20:40
where
20:40
O
20:41
death
20:41
is
20:41
your
20:41
sting.
20:42
And
20:43
the
20:43
Christian
20:43
influence
20:44
there.
20:44
I
20:44
mean,
20:44
you're
20:45
literally
20:45
quoting
20:45
scripture.
20:46
What
20:46
more
20:46
do
20:46
you
20:46
want?
20:47
And
20:48
is
20:48
talking
20:49
obviously
20:49
in
20:49
context
20:50
of
20:50
Jesus
20:50
coming
20:50
back
20:51
and
20:51
conquering
20:52
death
20:52
and
20:52
the
20:52
grave
20:53
and
20:53
everything,
20:54
but
20:54
this
20:54
one
20:54
showing,
20:55
look,
20:55
you
20:55
can
20:55
come
20:56
back
20:56
as
20:56
much
20:56
as
20:56
you
20:56
want.
20:57
You're
20:57
not
20:57
going
20:57
to
20:57
win
20:58
because
20:58
people
20:59
like
20:59
you
20:59
will
20:59
ultimately
21:00
lose.
21:01
And
21:02
yeah,
21:02
Derrickson
21:03
himself
21:03
is
21:03
not
21:03
a
21:03
believer.
21:04
But
21:04
still,
21:05
that's
21:05
brought
21:05
up
21:05
extremely
21:06
well.
21:06
And
21:06
it's
21:07
not.
21:07
They're
21:08
not
21:08
mocking
21:08
Christianity.
21:09
They're
21:09
not.
21:10
They're
21:10
showing
21:10
different
21:11
facets
21:11
of
21:11
it.
21:11
And
21:12
I
21:12
really
21:12
appreciated
21:12
what
21:13
they
21:13
did.
21:13
I
21:13
totally
21:14
agree.
21:14
It
21:14
was,
21:15
I
21:16
mean,
21:16
great
21:16
characterization
21:17
and
21:17
yeah,
21:18
no,
21:18
I
21:18
was
21:18
fully
21:19
expecting,
21:19
like,
21:20
yeah,
21:20
Barb
21:20
and
21:20
her
21:21
husband
21:21
to
21:21
just
21:21
get
21:21
decapitated
21:22
by
21:22
the
21:23
Grabber
21:23
and
21:23
the
21:23
audience
21:24
would
21:24
be
21:24
cheering.
21:24
But
21:24
yeah,
21:25
I
21:25
was
21:25
glad
21:25
they
21:25
took
21:26
a
21:26
different
21:26
route
21:26
there.
21:26
And
21:27
also,
21:27
one
21:27
thing
21:28
I
21:28
don't
21:28
want
21:28
to
21:28
spoil
21:28
for
21:29
people
21:29
who
21:29
haven't
21:29
seen
21:29
it
21:29
because
21:30
I
21:30
really
21:30
do
21:30
want
21:30
people
21:30
to
21:31
go
21:31
see
21:31
this
21:31
in
21:31
theaters
21:32
and
21:33
I
21:33
think
21:33
it's,
21:33
you
21:33
know,
21:34
really
21:34
good
21:34
for
21:34
the
21:35
Halloween
21:35
season.
21:35
But
21:36
they're,
21:36
they
21:36
do
21:37
a
21:37
really
21:37
interesting
21:38
storyline
21:39
with
21:40
Fin
21:40
and
21:40
Finny
21:41
and
21:41
Gwen's
21:42
mother
21:43
that,
21:43
you
21:44
know,
21:44
like,
21:44
where
21:44
she's
21:45
not
21:46
really
21:46
a
21:46
character
21:46
in
21:47
the
21:47
first
21:47
one,
21:47
she
21:47
is
21:48
key
21:48
to
21:48
the
21:48
story.
21:48
But
21:49
all
21:49
we
21:49
know
21:50
from
21:50
the
21:50
first
21:51
movie
21:51
is
21:51
that
21:53
she
21:53
had
21:53
killed
21:54
herself
21:54
and,
21:55
and
21:55
that
21:56
was
21:56
why
21:57
the
21:58
abusive
21:59
father
21:59
was
21:59
so
22:00
fearful
22:00
of
22:01
Gwen's
22:02
psychic
22:02
visions,
22:02
because
22:03
he
22:03
thought
22:04
that
22:04
their
22:05
mother
22:06
had,
22:06
you
22:06
know,
22:07
committed
22:08
suicide
22:08
because
22:10
of
22:10
the
22:10
visions
22:11
that
22:11
were
22:11
plaguing
22:11
her.
22:12
And,
22:12
you
22:13
know,
22:13
he
22:13
was
22:13
fearful
22:14
of
22:14
Gwen
22:14
going
22:15
that
22:15
route.
22:16
But
22:16
it,
22:17
I
22:17
don't
22:17
want
22:17
to
22:17
spoil
22:18
it
22:18
again,
22:18
but
22:18
it
22:19
expands
22:19
on
22:20
that
22:20
storyline
22:20
here
22:21
and
22:21
does
22:21
something
22:22
really
22:22
unexpected
22:22
and
22:23
I
22:23
thought
22:23
that
22:23
really
22:24
worked
22:24
for
22:24
the
22:25
narrative.
22:25
So
22:25
I
22:26
really
22:26
like
22:26
that
22:26
and
22:26
I,
22:27
and
22:27
I
22:27
liked
22:27
how
22:28
it
22:28
puts
22:28
Gwen
22:28
front
22:29
and
22:29
center,
22:30
it
22:30
explores
22:30
her
22:31
character
22:31
more
22:32
and
22:32
yeah,
22:32
lay
22:33
in,
22:33
really
22:34
hones
22:34
in
22:35
on
22:35
this
22:35
idea
22:35
of
22:36
facing
22:36
your
22:36
demons
22:37
and
22:37
you
22:38
know,
22:38
in
22:38
this
22:38
case,
22:39
the
22:39
Grabber
22:40
coming
22:40
back
22:40
as
22:41
this
22:41
full
22:41
on
22:42
supernatural
22:43
entity
22:44
that's
22:44
very
22:44
Freddy
22:45
Krueger.
22:46
Also,
22:46
kudos
22:47
to
22:47
Ethan
22:47
Hawke.
22:48
I
22:48
think
22:48
he
22:48
had,
22:48
I
22:49
think
22:49
he
22:49
had
22:49
a
22:49
ton
22:49
of
22:49
fun
22:49
playing
22:50
this
22:50
game.
22:50
Not
22:51
that
22:51
it's
22:51
not
22:51
a
22:51
horrible
22:52
game,
22:52
but
22:52
I
22:52
think
22:52
he
22:53
had
22:53
some
22:53
fun
22:53
though.
22:53
Like,
22:54
I
22:54
mean,
22:54
I
22:54
know
22:54
he's
22:54
worked
22:55
with
22:55
Derrickson
22:57
and
22:57
Cargill
22:58
on
22:58
Sinister
22:59
before.
22:59
These
22:59
movies.
23:00
But,
23:01
but
23:01
I
23:01
think
23:01
he
23:01
did
23:02
enjoy
23:02
really
23:03
honing
23:03
in
23:03
on
23:04
the
23:04
villain
23:05
aspect
23:05
and
23:06
all
23:06
the
23:06
acting
23:06
here
23:06
is
23:07
great.
23:07
Mason
23:07
Thames,
23:09
Madeline
23:10
McGall.
23:11
I,
23:12
I
23:13
think.
23:13
I.
23:13
I
23:13
think
23:14
McGall.
23:14
I,
23:15
I
23:15
should
23:15
look
23:15
that
23:16
up.
23:16
But,
23:17
but
23:17
yeah,
23:17
great
23:17
cast.
23:18
All
23:18
around
23:18
the
23:18
border
23:19
here.
23:19
Really
23:20
good
23:20
sequel.
23:20
I
23:21
just.
23:21
Why,
23:21
again,
23:21
I
23:22
was
23:22
also
23:22
a
23:22
little
23:22
hesitant
23:23
going
23:23
in.
23:24
I
23:24
was
23:24
like,
23:24
ah,
23:24
the
23:24
first
23:25
one
23:25
kind
23:25
of
23:25
stands
23:25
well
23:26
on
23:26
its
23:26
own
23:27
and
23:27
it's
23:27
only
23:27
based
23:27
on
23:27
a
23:28
short
23:28
story
23:28
and
23:28
not
23:28
a
23:29
novel
23:29
or
23:29
anything,
23:30
but
23:30
they
23:31
really
23:31
did
23:31
a
23:31
great
23:31
job.
23:32
As
23:32
a
23:32
follow
23:32
up
23:32
here,
23:33
I,
23:33
I
23:34
would,
23:34
you
23:34
know,
23:34
and,
23:34
and
23:35
I
23:35
read
23:35
an
23:35
interview
23:36
with
23:36
Derrickson
23:37
on
23:37
Hollywood
23:37
Reporter
23:38
the
23:38
other
23:38
day,
23:39
and
23:39
they
23:39
asked,
23:40
you
23:40
know,
23:40
because
23:41
the
23:41
first
23:41
movie
23:42
has
23:42
Finn
23:42
and
23:43
Gwen
23:43
in
23:44
middle
23:44
school,
23:44
this
23:44
one
23:45
is
23:45
them
23:45
in
23:45
high
23:45
school,
23:46
they
23:46
asked
23:46
if,
23:47
you
23:47
know,
23:47
he
23:47
would
23:47
do
23:48
a
23:48
movie
23:49
a
23:49
few
23:49
years
23:50
from
23:50
now
23:50
where
23:50
they're
23:50
in
23:51
college
23:51
and
23:51
do
23:52
a
23:52
trilogy.
23:52
And
23:53
I
23:53
like
23:53
that
23:54
he
23:54
said,
23:54
you
23:54
know,
23:54
I
23:54
mean,
23:56
he's
23:56
not
23:56
going
23:56
to
23:56
do
23:56
anything
23:57
if
23:57
there's
23:58
no
23:58
story
23:58
there.
23:59
But
23:59
if
23:59
a
23:59
great
24:00
story
24:00
presents
24:00
itself,
24:00
then
24:01
it's
24:01
possible.
24:03
So
24:03
I
24:03
like
24:03
that
24:03
they're
24:04
prioritizing
24:05
good
24:05
narrative
24:06
storytelling
24:07
over
24:08
the
24:08
success
24:08
of,
24:09
you
24:09
know,
24:09
both
24:10
movies.
24:10
But,
24:11
but
24:11
I
24:11
think,
24:12
you
24:12
know,
24:12
going
24:12
forward
24:13
in
24:13
our
24:13
Halloween,
24:14
I
24:14
think
24:14
this
24:14
will
24:15
make
24:15
a
24:15
great
24:15
double
24:16
feature
24:16
for
24:16
me.
24:16
I'm
24:16
definitely
24:17
gonna
24:17
be
24:17
revisiting
24:18
it
24:18
a
24:19
lot.
24:19
And.
24:19
Yeah,
24:20
Evan,
24:21
sorry,
24:21
I
24:21
didn't
24:21
ask
24:21
you
24:21
if
24:22
you've
24:22
seen
24:22
either
24:22
the
24:22
first
24:23
one
24:23
or
24:23
this
24:23
one,
24:23
but.
24:25
Or
24:25
if
24:25
you
24:26
have
24:26
any
24:26
thoughts.
24:26
No,
24:27
I
24:27
have
24:27
not
24:28
seen
24:28
them.
24:29
I
24:29
didn't
24:29
know
24:30
that
24:30
a
24:30
Cargill
24:31
was
24:31
attached
24:32
to
24:32
it.
24:33
Yeah,
24:33
because
24:34
I
24:34
remember
24:35
him
24:35
from
24:35
the
24:36
old,
24:37
from
24:37
the
24:37
old,
24:38
what's
24:39
it
24:39
called?
24:39
The
24:39
slash
24:40
film
24:40
podcast
24:41
days.
24:41
The
24:41
old,
24:42
the,
24:43
the,
24:44
the,
24:44
the,
24:45
like,
24:45
slash
24:46
film
24:46
cast
24:47
and,
24:48
and,
24:49
and
24:49
the
24:49
crazy
24:50
stories
24:50
he
24:50
would
24:51
tell
24:51
that
24:52
he
24:52
always
24:52
said
24:52
that
24:53
he
24:53
wanted
24:53
to
24:53
turn
24:54
into
24:54
stories
24:54
later
24:55
on,
24:55
which
24:56
is
24:56
cool
24:57
to
24:57
see
24:57
him
24:58
doing
24:58
that,
24:59
but.
25:00
But
25:00
I
25:00
do
25:00
have
25:01
a
25:01
funny
25:01
connection
25:02
to
25:02
this
25:02
movie.
25:03
When
25:03
I
25:03
was
25:03
at
25:04
Halloween
25:05
Horror
25:06
Nights
25:06
a
25:06
few
25:06
weeks
25:06
ago
25:07
here
25:07
at
25:07
Universal
25:08
Studios,
25:10
I
25:10
was
25:10
walking
25:11
through
25:11
one
25:11
of
25:11
these
25:11
care
25:12
zones,
25:13
and
25:13
I
25:14
was
25:14
on
25:14
my
25:14
phone
25:14
trying
25:15
to
25:15
find
25:15
my
25:15
daughter
25:16
because
25:16
we,
25:17
because
25:17
we
25:17
had
25:18
separated
25:18
for
25:18
a
25:18
little
25:19
bit.
25:19
And
25:20
then
25:20
I'm
25:21
on
25:21
the
25:21
phone,
25:22
I'm
25:22
talking
25:22
to
25:22
my
25:23
daughter,
25:23
and
25:23
I
25:23
turn
25:23
around
25:24
and
25:25
the
25:25
character
25:26
from
25:26
the
25:26
movie
25:27
is
25:27
right
25:27
there
25:27
in
25:28
front
25:28
of
25:28
my
25:28
face.
25:29
And
25:29
I
25:30
get
25:30
the
25:31
Bajeeba
25:31
scared
25:32
out
25:32
of
25:32
me.
25:32
I
25:32
jump
25:33
backwards,
25:33
I'm
25:33
like,
25:34
holy.
25:35
And
25:35
they're
25:35
like,
25:36
aha.
25:36
And
25:36
then.
25:37
And
25:37
then
25:37
they
25:37
just
25:37
walk
25:38
away.
25:40
That's
25:40
about
25:41
as
25:41
terrifying
25:41
as,
25:41
you
25:41
get
25:42
when
25:42
you're
25:42
trying
25:42
to
25:42
find
25:42
your
25:43
daughter
25:43
in
25:43
a
25:43
theme
25:43
park
25:44
and
25:44
you
25:44
run
25:44
into
25:45
the
25:45
grabber.
25:45
That
25:46
was
25:46
horrible.
25:46
I
25:46
was
25:46
like,
25:47
oh,
25:47
my
25:47
God.
25:49
Yeah.
25:49
So
25:50
I
25:51
hope
25:51
the
25:51
movie
25:51
is
25:52
less
25:52
traumatizing
25:53
for
25:53
you
25:53
when
25:53
I
25:54
check
25:54
it
25:54
out,
25:55
but.
25:55
Yeah,
25:55
yeah,
25:56
yeah.
25:57
Awesome.
25:58
Excellent.
25:58
Well,
25:58
I
25:59
know
25:59
we
25:59
want
25:59
to
25:59
get
25:59
into
25:59
our.
26:00
Our
26:00
big
26:00
topic
26:00
tonight,
26:01
so
26:01
that
26:01
is
26:01
all
26:01
I'll
26:02
say
26:02
about
26:02
Black
26:02
Fun
26:02
2,
26:03
but
26:03
please
26:03
do
26:03
go
26:03
see
26:04
it
26:04
if
26:04
you
26:04
get
26:04
a
26:04
chance.
26:05
I
26:05
highly
26:05
recommend
26:06
both
26:06
of
26:06
those
26:06
movies,
26:07
but
26:08
let's
26:08
get
26:08
into
26:08
it,
26:09
guys.
26:09
So
26:10
it's
26:10
Thursday
26:10
night.
26:11
I
26:11
feel
26:11
like,
26:11
you
26:11
know,
26:12
it's.
26:12
It's
26:13
been
26:13
a
26:13
couple
26:13
weeks
26:13
since
26:14
Peacemaker
26:16
wrapped
26:16
up
26:16
season
26:17
two,
26:17
but,
26:18
you
26:18
know,
26:18
this
26:19
was
26:19
a
26:20
Thursday
26:20
night
26:21
tradition
26:21
for
26:21
about
26:22
two
26:22
months
26:22
there.
26:23
So
26:23
now
26:23
we're,
26:24
you
26:24
know,
26:24
we
26:24
hope
26:24
to
26:25
bring
26:25
a
26:25
little
26:25
bit
26:25
of
26:26
that
26:26
back
26:26
to
26:27
you
26:27
guys
26:27
tonight
26:27
by
26:28
talking
26:28
about
26:28
the
26:28
show
26:29
and
26:29
sharing
26:29
our
26:29
thoughts.
26:30
So.
26:31
So
26:31
I
26:31
know
26:32
we
26:32
have
26:32
done
26:33
some
26:33
previous
26:34
episodes
26:35
as
26:35
the
26:35
season
26:36
was
26:36
going
26:36
on,
26:36
talking
26:37
about
26:37
Peacemaker
26:38
and
26:38
Peacemaker
26:39
Season
26:39
2,
26:40
but
26:40
now
26:40
that
26:41
the
26:41
season
26:41
is
26:41
complete,
26:42
I
26:43
guess
26:43
I
26:43
want
26:43
to
26:43
start
26:44
with
26:45
what
26:45
are
26:45
our
26:46
initial
26:46
thoughts
26:47
on
26:48
the
26:48
season
26:48
as
26:48
a
26:49
whole?
26:49
I
26:49
know,
26:49
you
26:49
know,
26:49
I
26:50
mean,
26:50
I
26:50
know
26:50
we're
26:50
all
26:50
pretty
26:51
big
26:51
fans
26:51
of
26:51
season
26:52
one.
26:52
I
26:52
would.
26:52
I
26:53
would
26:53
think,
26:54
but.
26:55
But
26:56
with
26:56
season
26:56
two,
26:57
now
26:57
that
26:57
it's
26:57
wrapped
26:58
up.
27:00
Evan,
27:00
we'll
27:01
start
27:01
with
27:01
you.
27:01
What
27:02
were
27:02
your
27:02
kind
27:02
of
27:02
overall
27:03
thoughts
27:03
on
27:04
this
27:04
season
27:05
before
27:05
we
27:05
get
27:05
into
27:05
kind
27:06
of
27:06
the
27:06
specifics?
27:06
Sure.
27:07
Yeah.
27:07
My
27:07
first,
27:08
my
27:08
first
27:09
big
27:10
thought
27:10
was
27:10
that
27:12
this,
27:12
that
27:13
this
27:13
season
27:14
was
27:14
more
27:15
character
27:16
based,
27:16
I
27:16
would
27:16
say.
27:17
And
27:17
it
27:19
dealt
27:19
with
27:19
the
27:20
interplay
27:21
and
27:22
all
27:22
the
27:22
different
27:24
character
27:24
strengths
27:25
and
27:25
weaknesses
27:26
a
27:26
lot
27:26
more
27:26
than
27:27
season
27:27
one
27:27
did.
27:28
I
27:29
don't
27:29
know
27:30
if
27:30
you
27:30
guys
27:31
found
27:31
that
27:32
apparent
27:32
too,
27:33
but
27:33
there
27:33
were
27:34
a
27:34
lot
27:35
of
27:35
moments
27:35
that
27:35
really.
27:37
That
27:37
really.
27:37
That
27:38
really
27:38
surprised
27:38
me
27:39
and
27:40
how
27:41
human
27:41
they
27:41
were
27:42
for.
27:43
For
27:43
these
27:44
kind
27:44
of
27:44
characters.
27:45
And.
27:46
And
27:47
then
27:48
also
27:48
the
27:49
different
27:49
cameos
27:51
and
27:51
the
27:51
different.
27:53
I
27:53
did
27:54
appreciate
27:55
that
27:55
they
27:55
didn't
27:56
overuse
27:57
the
27:58
multidimensional
27:59
thing.
28:00
They
28:01
used
28:01
it
28:01
just
28:02
as
28:03
sparingly
28:04
as
28:04
they
28:05
could
28:05
and
28:05
then
28:06
they
28:06
kind
28:06
of
28:07
relied
28:07
on
28:07
it
28:07
at
28:08
the
28:08
end.
28:08
But
28:08
overall,
28:10
solid
28:11
season.
28:11
To,
28:12
To.
28:13
To
28:14
this.
28:15
To
28:15
the.
28:16
To
28:16
the
28:16
new.
28:17
To
28:17
the
28:17
new
28:18
DCU
28:19
now.
28:19
And
28:20
I'm
28:20
looking
28:21
forward
28:21
to.
28:22
To.
28:23
To.
28:23
To.
28:23
What's
28:24
after
28:24
this.
28:24
I
28:24
think
28:24
it's
28:25
lanterns.
28:25
I
28:25
think
28:26
so.
28:26
Yep.
28:26
Lanterns
28:27
is.
28:27
They
28:28
haven't
28:28
announced
28:28
a
28:28
release
28:29
date
28:29
yet,
28:29
but
28:29
it
28:29
should
28:29
be
28:30
early
28:30
2026.
28:31
So
28:31
I'm
28:31
hoping,
28:32
like,
28:33
I
28:33
don't
28:33
think
28:33
January
28:33
at
28:34
this
28:34
point
28:34
because
28:34
we
28:34
haven't
28:34
got
28:35
a
28:35
trailer
28:35
or
28:35
anything,
28:35
but
28:36
maybe
28:36
February
28:37
or
28:37
March,
28:37
we'll
28:38
see.
28:38
I
28:38
don't
28:38
know,
28:38
but
28:39
that
28:39
is
28:40
on
28:40
the
28:40
radar.
28:40
Yeah.
28:41
Well,
28:41
Evan,
28:42
I,
28:42
so
28:43
I,
28:43
you
28:43
know,
28:43
it,
28:44
I,
28:44
I
28:45
agree
28:45
with
28:45
a
28:45
lot
28:45
there,
28:46
but
28:46
I,
28:46
I
28:46
would
28:46
actually
28:47
say
28:48
that
28:48
Peacemaker
28:49
has
28:49
always
28:50
been
28:51
a
28:51
character
28:51
for
28:52
a
28:52
show.
28:52
I
28:52
think
28:53
what
28:53
separates
28:54
seasons
28:54
one
28:54
and
28:55
two
28:55
is
28:56
tone
28:56
and
28:57
in
28:57
some
28:57
cases,
28:58
genre.
28:58
But
28:59
what
28:59
I,
28:59
because
28:59
when
28:59
I
29:00
look
29:00
at
29:00
Peacemaker
29:01
Season
29:01
1,
29:01
like,
29:02
yes,
29:02
it's
29:02
this
29:03
big,
29:03
great
29:04
sci
29:04
fi
29:05
horror
29:05
mashup
29:06
and,
29:07
and
29:07
it,
29:07
you
29:07
know,
29:07
it's,
29:08
you
29:08
know,
29:08
really
29:09
wildly
29:10
entertaining.
29:11
But
29:11
the
29:11
reason
29:12
I
29:12
think
29:12
it's
29:12
always
29:12
been
29:13
a
29:13
character
29:14
for
29:14
a
29:14
show
29:15
and
29:15
is
29:15
you
29:16
look
29:16
at
29:16
the
29:16
season
29:17
one
29:17
and
29:18
James
29:19
Gunn
29:19
decided
29:20
to
29:20
make
29:21
a
29:21
full
29:22
series
29:22
about
29:23
the
29:23
most
29:24
detestable
29:24
character
29:25
from
29:25
the
29:25
Suicide
29:26
Squad
29:26
and
29:27
make
29:27
him
29:27
the
29:27
prime,
29:28
the
29:28
protagonist.
29:29
And,
29:29
you
29:29
know,
29:29
you're,
29:30
I
29:30
mean,
29:30
I
29:30
love
29:30
the
29:31
Suicide
29:31
Squad,
29:31
but
29:32
I
29:32
went
29:32
into
29:33
season
29:33
one
29:33
of
29:33
Peacemaker
29:34
back
29:35
when
29:35
it
29:35
premiered
29:35
thinking,
29:36
how
29:36
are
29:36
they
29:36
going
29:37
to
29:37
make
29:37
this
29:37
guy
29:38
in
29:38
any
29:38
way
29:39
redeemable
29:39
and
29:40
in
29:40
any
29:40
way
29:40
interesting?
29:41
And
29:41
he
29:42
did
29:42
that
29:42
from
29:42
the
29:42
get
29:42
go
29:43
and
29:43
he
29:43
made
29:44
this
29:44
character
29:44
someone
29:45
you
29:45
came
29:46
to
29:46
really
29:46
fall
29:46
in
29:46
love
29:46
with,
29:47
even
29:47
when
29:47
he's
29:48
being,
29:48
you
29:48
know,
29:49
detestable.
29:49
And
29:50
when.
29:51
And
29:51
he
29:51
does
29:51
horrible
29:52
things.
29:52
But
29:53
season
29:54
one
29:54
is
29:54
so
29:55
crucial
29:55
to
29:56
exploring
29:57
who
29:57
Chris
29:57
Smith
29:58
is,
29:58
his
29:59
backstory
30:00
and
30:00
how
30:00
that
30:00
informs,
30:01
you
30:02
know,
30:02
the
30:02
Persona
30:03
that
30:04
he's
30:04
made
30:05
and.
30:05
But
30:05
also
30:06
kind
30:06
of
30:06
peeling
30:07
the
30:07
layers
30:08
beneath
30:08
that
30:09
Persona
30:09
and
30:10
exploring
30:10
who
30:10
he
30:11
really
30:11
is
30:11
and
30:11
who
30:11
he
30:11
wants
30:12
to
30:12
be.
30:12
So
30:12
everything
30:13
about
30:13
season
30:14
two,
30:14
the
30:14
foundation
30:15
for
30:15
that
30:15
is
30:16
set
30:16
up
30:16
in
30:16
season
30:16
one.
30:17
And
30:17
I
30:17
think
30:17
with
30:18
season
30:18
two,
30:19
it
30:19
builds
30:20
on
30:20
that
30:20
because
30:21
I,
30:22
you
30:22
know,
30:22
I
30:22
have
30:22
heard
30:23
even
30:23
from
30:24
some,
30:24
you
30:24
know,
30:24
some
30:24
friends
30:25
and
30:25
like,
30:25
some
30:26
criticism
30:27
saying,
30:27
like,
30:28
season
30:28
two
30:28
just
30:28
feels
30:29
like
30:29
a
30:29
different
30:29
show
30:29
and
30:30
I
30:30
wish,
30:30
you
30:30
know,
30:30
we
30:31
could
30:31
just
30:31
have
30:31
another
30:32
big
30:32
action
30:33
adventure
30:33
series
30:34
and
30:34
kind
30:34
of
30:34
keep
30:35
Peacemaker
30:35
Peacemaker.
30:36
But
30:37
again,
30:38
with
30:38
season
30:39
one,
30:40
it
30:40
ends
30:41
on
30:41
a
30:41
note
30:41
that
30:42
fundamentally
30:43
changes
30:43
Chris
30:43
Smith
30:44
because
30:44
in
30:45
when
30:45
in
30:45
the
30:45
final
30:45
battle
30:46
with
30:46
the
30:46
Butterflies,
30:47
they're
30:47
doing
30:48
everything
30:49
that
30:49
was
30:50
aligned
30:51
with
30:51
his
30:51
philosophy
30:52
as,
30:53
you
30:53
know,
30:53
doing
30:54
anything
30:54
to
30:54
keep
30:55
the
30:55
peace
30:55
and,
30:55
you
30:56
know,
30:56
killing
30:56
anyone
30:57
necessary
30:58
in
30:58
order
30:58
to
30:58
provide
30:59
stability.
30:59
The
31:00
Butterflies
31:00
were
31:00
doing
31:01
that.
31:01
And
31:01
it's.
31:02
But
31:02
because
31:03
Chris
31:04
comes
31:04
to
31:04
love
31:04
a
31:05
group
31:05
of
31:05
people
31:06
with
31:06
the
31:06
11
31:07
kids,
31:07
he's
31:07
found
31:08
out
31:08
different
31:08
things
31:09
about
31:09
himself.
31:10
He
31:10
chooses
31:11
to
31:11
reject
31:11
that
31:12
notion
31:12
at
31:12
the
31:12
end
31:12
of
31:12
season
31:13
one
31:13
and
31:13
that
31:14
fundamentally
31:14
changes
31:15
him
31:15
and
31:15
that
31:16
sets
31:16
up
31:16
everything
31:17
for
31:17
season
31:17
two.
31:17
And
31:18
what
31:18
I
31:18
commend
31:18
James
31:19
Gunn
31:19
for
31:19
is
31:20
not
31:20
ignoring
31:21
that,
31:21
but
31:21
actually
31:22
building
31:22
on
31:22
that
31:23
principle
31:23
and
31:23
building
31:23
on
31:24
that
31:24
storyline
31:25
and
31:26
laying
31:26
that
31:26
as
31:27
the
31:27
foundation.
31:27
So,
31:28
yes,
31:28
this
31:28
apps
31:29
this
31:29
season
31:29
does
31:30
more
31:31
in
31:31
terms
31:32
of
31:32
emotional
31:33
depth
31:33
and
31:34
some
31:34
of
31:34
the
31:34
things
31:35
that
31:35
were
31:35
touched
31:35
on
31:35
season
31:36
one.
31:36
It
31:36
explores
31:37
it
31:37
in
31:37
a
31:38
way
31:38
deeper
31:40
context
31:41
here.
31:42
And,
31:43
you
31:43
know,
31:43
it
31:43
does
31:44
the.
31:44
This
31:44
whole
31:45
storyline
31:46
with
31:46
alternate
31:47
universes
31:47
and,
31:48
you
31:48
know,
31:48
it
31:49
has
31:50
Chris,
31:51
you
31:51
know,
31:51
wanting
31:51
to,
31:52
by
31:52
the
31:52
end,
31:53
abandon
31:53
everything,
31:54
and
31:54
it's
31:54
his
31:55
friends
31:55
who
31:55
have
31:56
to
31:56
lift
31:56
him
31:56
up
31:57
and
31:57
get
31:57
him
31:58
back
31:58
into
31:58
the
31:58
game.
31:59
But
31:59
yeah,
32:00
again,
32:00
all
32:00
of
32:00
that
32:01
was
32:01
laid
32:01
out
32:01
in
32:01
season
32:02
one,
32:02
so
32:02
I
32:02
think
32:02
it
32:03
really
32:03
builds
32:04
on
32:04
it.
32:04
Naturally,
32:05
even
32:05
though
32:06
this
32:07
season
32:07
deals
32:08
with
32:09
a
32:09
different
32:09
storyline,
32:10
different
32:10
genres,
32:11
I.
32:12
I
32:12
really
32:13
appreciate
32:14
the
32:14
cohesiveness
32:15
of
32:16
everything,
32:17
really,
32:17
James
32:17
Gunn
32:18
has
32:18
done
32:18
in
32:18
the
32:18
DCU
32:18
so
32:19
far,
32:19
going
32:19
back
32:20
to
32:20
the
32:20
Suicide
32:20
Squad
32:21
and
32:21
then
32:21
both
32:22
seasons,
32:22
Peacemaker
32:23
and
32:23
Superman
32:24
and
32:24
tying
32:24
it
32:24
all
32:24
in.
32:25
So,
32:25
Christian,
32:26
what
32:26
about
32:26
you?
32:26
What
32:26
are
32:26
your
32:27
thoughts
32:27
on
32:27
that
32:27
and
32:27
just
32:28
kind
32:28
of
32:28
overall
32:28
impressions
32:29
of
32:29
season
32:29
two?
32:30
Yeah,
32:31
I'd
32:31
say
32:32
ultimately
32:32
I
32:32
like
32:32
season
32:33
one
32:33
more
32:33
than
32:33
two,
32:34
but
32:35
that's
32:35
fine.
32:35
It's
32:36
just
32:36
comparing
32:36
different
32:37
things.
32:38
I
32:39
like
32:39
what
32:39
they
32:39
went
32:40
in
32:40
a
32:40
different
32:40
direction.
32:41
I
32:41
like
32:41
that
32:41
they
32:43
said,
32:43
hey,
32:43
we're
32:43
not
32:43
going
32:44
to
32:44
rehash
32:44
another
32:44
invasion
32:45
plot,
32:45
or
32:46
we're
32:46
not
32:46
going
32:46
to
32:46
be
32:47
heavily
32:47
focused
32:47
on
32:48
Amanda
32:48
Waller,
32:48
but
32:48
we
32:49
still
32:49
feel
32:49
the
32:50
effects
32:51
of
32:52
what
32:52
happened
32:52
in
32:53
season
32:53
one.
32:53
And
32:54
like,
32:55
whenever.
32:55
And
32:55
I
32:55
talked
32:56
about
32:56
it
32:56
originally,
32:56
I
32:57
loved
32:57
how
32:57
they
32:57
just
32:58
went,
32:58
no,
32:58
we've
32:58
always
32:59
been
32:59
in
33:00
the
33:00
new
33:00
dcu.
33:00
You
33:01
know,
33:02
it
33:02
just
33:02
kind
33:02
of
33:03
played
33:03
well.
33:04
And
33:05
then
33:05
when
33:05
you
33:05
and
33:05
I
33:05
were
33:06
on
33:06
Kevin
33:07
talking
33:07
about
33:07
this,
33:08
and
33:08
you
33:09
mentioned
33:09
the
33:09
hypothesis
33:10
that
33:10
you
33:10
had
33:10
heard
33:11
from
33:11
elsewhere
33:12
about
33:13
the
33:13
identity
33:14
of
33:14
this
33:14
potentially
33:15
being
33:15
Earth
33:15
X,
33:16
and
33:16
I
33:17
had
33:17
not
33:17
seen
33:17
that
33:17
because,
33:18
you
33:18
know,
33:18
I
33:19
wasn't,
33:19
like,
33:19
looking
33:19
at
33:20
everyone
33:20
in
33:20
the
33:20
background
33:20
going,
33:21
okay,
33:22
you're
33:22
this,
33:22
you're
33:22
that,
33:22
you're
33:23
that.
33:23
He's
33:23
like,
33:23
you
33:24
know,
33:24
I'm
33:24
not
33:24
saying
33:24
that's
33:25
a
33:25
wrong
33:25
thing
33:25
to
33:25
do.
33:26
It's
33:26
just.
33:26
Would
33:27
never
33:27
have
33:27
been
33:28
apparent
33:28
to
33:28
me
33:28
to,
33:28
like,
33:29
look
33:29
at
33:30
that.
33:30
And
33:31
I
33:31
was
33:31
blown
33:31
away.
33:32
Not
33:32
as
33:32
much
33:32
as
33:32
I
33:33
would
33:33
have
33:33
been
33:33
if
33:33
you
33:33
hadn't
33:34
told
33:34
me
33:34
that.
33:34
But
33:34
that's
33:34
still
33:35
good
33:35
because
33:35
I
33:35
don't
33:36
mind
33:36
spoilers.
33:36
Even
33:37
hearing
33:37
a
33:37
hypothesis
33:38
doesn't,
33:38
like,
33:38
spoil
33:39
something
33:39
for
33:39
me
33:39
in
33:39
that
33:40
way.
33:41
So
33:41
the.
33:41
The
33:42
reveal
33:42
of
33:42
Earth
33:42
X
33:43
felt
33:44
very
33:44
real
33:44
to
33:44
me,
33:46
and
33:46
it
33:46
hurt
33:47
to
33:47
see
33:48
Chris
33:48
go
33:49
through
33:49
this.
33:49
Like,
33:49
this
33:49
was
33:50
my
33:50
ideal
33:50
world,
33:50
but
33:51
this
33:51
is
33:52
who
33:52
I
33:52
am
33:52
in
33:52
this
33:53
world
33:53
before
33:54
I
33:54
had
33:54
to
33:54
kill
33:54
the
33:54
other
33:54
person,
33:55
the
33:56
other
33:56
me.
33:56
It's
33:56
like,
33:57
is
33:57
it
33:57
worth
33:57
living
33:57
in
33:58
a
33:58
world
33:58
like
33:58
this
33:58
if
33:58
I
33:58
get
33:59
what
33:59
I
33:59
want,
33:59
but
34:00
everyone
34:00
else,
34:01
you
34:01
know,
34:02
who
34:02
are
34:03
different
34:03
races
34:04
and
34:04
what
34:05
have
34:05
you
34:06
can't
34:06
have
34:07
what
34:07
I
34:07
have.
34:08
Well,
34:08
the
34:08
Christmas
34:09
season
34:09
one
34:10
might
34:10
have
34:10
made
34:10
that
34:10
decision
34:11
to
34:12
stay
34:12
there,
34:12
but
34:13
the
34:13
Christmas
34:13
season
34:14
two,
34:15
no,
34:15
because
34:15
he's
34:15
had
34:16
time
34:16
with
34:17
the
34:17
gang,
34:17
with
34:18
his
34:18
friends,
34:19
and
34:20
has
34:20
learned
34:20
to
34:20
become
34:20
a
34:21
better
34:21
person,
34:21
is
34:22
still
34:22
wanting
34:22
to
34:22
pursue
34:23
peace
34:23
and
34:23
make
34:24
it,
34:24
but
34:25
he's
34:25
a
34:25
different
34:25
peacemaker.
34:27
So
34:28
I
34:28
really
34:28
enjoy
34:28
what
34:29
they
34:29
did.
34:29
It
34:30
was
34:30
super
34:30
fun.
34:33
The
34:33
cliffhanger
34:34
is
34:34
going
34:34
to
34:34
kill
34:34
me
34:34
because
34:35
there
34:35
is
34:35
no
34:35
confirmed
34:36
season
34:36
three.
34:37
So
34:38
whether
34:38
or
34:38
not
34:38
he's
34:38
going
34:38
to
34:38
pick
34:39
that
34:39
up
34:39
in
34:39
the
34:40
next
34:40
Superman
34:40
movie
34:41
or
34:41
somewhere
34:41
else
34:41
down
34:42
the
34:42
line,
34:42
I
34:43
don't
34:43
know.
34:43
All
34:43
I
34:43
know
34:43
is
34:44
I
34:44
need
34:44
to
34:44
have
34:45
a
34:45
resolution.
34:46
I
34:46
very
34:46
much.
34:47
Oh,
34:47
no.
34:47
So,
34:48
yeah,
34:48
and
34:48
we'll
34:49
go
34:49
and
34:49
get
34:49
into
34:49
this
34:50
because
34:50
there
34:51
was
34:51
a
34:51
lot
34:51
of
34:52
backlash
34:53
and
34:53
praise
34:54
for
34:54
the,
34:54
for
34:54
the
34:55
season
34:55
finale.
34:55
I
34:55
mean,
34:56
there
34:56
was
34:57
moments
34:57
that
34:57
were
34:58
widely
34:58
acclaimed,
34:59
but
34:59
there
34:59
was
35:00
disappointment
35:01
as
35:01
well.
35:01
I,
35:02
I
35:02
kind
35:02
of
35:02
fall
35:02
somewhere
35:03
in
35:03
the
35:03
middle
35:03
of
35:03
that
35:03
in
35:03
terms
35:03
of
35:04
that
35:04
episode.
35:04
I,
35:05
My
35:05
thoughts
35:06
on
35:06
the
35:06
season
35:06
finale
35:07
were
35:08
that
35:08
it
35:08
felt
35:08
like
35:09
an
35:09
epilogue
35:10
to
35:10
a
35:10
novel.
35:11
Like
35:11
where
35:13
episode
35:13
seven
35:14
feels
35:14
like
35:14
really
35:15
the
35:15
final
35:16
chapter.
35:16
And
35:17
then
35:17
the,
35:18
the
35:18
final
35:18
episode.
35:19
There
35:19
was
35:19
that
35:20
kind
35:20
of
35:20
epilogue
35:21
you
35:21
get
35:21
when
35:22
you're
35:22
reading
35:22
a
35:22
novel
35:23
and
35:23
it
35:23
kind
35:24
of,
35:24
you
35:24
know,
35:24
has
35:24
that
35:24
extra
35:25
little,
35:25
you
35:26
know,
35:26
whether
35:26
it's
35:26
in
35:27
this
35:27
case
35:27
setting
35:28
up
35:28
for
35:29
either
35:30
the
35:30
next
35:30
series
35:31
or
35:31
wherever
35:32
the.
35:32
I
35:32
mean,
35:32
we're
35:33
definitely
35:33
gonna
35:33
see
35:34
these,
35:34
store
35:34
these
35:34
storylines
35:35
play
35:35
out,
35:36
be
35:37
it
35:37
in
35:37
a
35:37
movie,
35:38
a
35:38
new
35:38
series,
35:39
like.
35:39
And
35:39
I,
35:40
I
35:40
would
35:40
say
35:40
too,
35:41
because,
35:41
I
35:41
mean,
35:41
I've,
35:42
you
35:42
know,
35:42
consumed
35:42
every
35:43
interview
35:43
with
35:43
James
35:43
Gunn
35:44
and,
35:44
you
35:44
know,
35:45
read
35:45
all
35:45
up
35:46
about
35:46
it
35:46
and
35:47
he's
35:47
not
35:47
ruled
35:48
out
35:48
of
35:48
season
35:48
three.
35:49
What
35:49
he
35:49
said
35:49
is
35:49
just,
35:50
it's
35:50
not
35:50
his
35:50
focus
35:50
right
35:51
now
35:51
because
35:52
I
35:52
think
35:52
he
35:52
already
35:53
has
35:53
plans
35:53
for
35:54
how
35:55
the
35:55
salvation
35:56
storyline
35:56
is
35:56
going
35:57
to
35:57
play
35:57
out
35:57
and,
35:58
and
35:59
then,
35:59
you
35:59
know,
35:59
how
36:00
this
36:00
movie
36:00
ties
36:00
into
36:01
Superman.
36:01
So
36:01
we're
36:02
definitely
36:02
going
36:02
to
36:02
see
36:02
these
36:02
characters
36:03
again.
36:03
It's
36:03
just.
36:03
Just
36:04
in
36:04
what
36:04
avenue?
36:05
We're
36:05
not
36:05
sure
36:05
yet.
36:06
But,
36:06
but
36:07
that
36:07
episode.
36:08
Yeah.
36:08
Was
36:08
it
36:08
the
36:09
best
36:09
of
36:09
the
36:09
series?
36:09
No.
36:10
And
36:10
do
36:10
I
36:10
think
36:11
that
36:11
as
36:11
much
36:12
as
36:12
I
36:12
give
36:13
James
36:13
credit
36:13
for
36:14
introducing
36:15
me
36:15
to
36:15
some
36:15
great
36:16
music
36:16
over
36:16
the
36:16
years
36:18
and
36:18
this
36:19
season
36:20
he
36:20
continued
36:20
in
36:20
that
36:21
tradition.
36:21
I,
36:22
I
36:22
do
36:22
think
36:23
it
36:23
was
36:23
a
36:23
little
36:23
gratuitous
36:24
to
36:24
have
36:24
what
36:25
is
36:25
essentially
36:25
two
36:26
music
36:26
videos.
36:27
It's
36:27
kind
36:27
of
36:27
ham
36:27
fisted
36:28
into
36:29
two
36:29
concerts.
36:30
I
36:30
like,
36:30
into
36:31
the
36:31
final
36:31
episode.
36:32
It
36:32
was
36:32
a
36:32
lot.
36:32
I
36:32
mean,
36:33
I
36:33
mean,
36:33
hey,
36:33
I
36:33
went
36:33
back
36:33
and
36:34
listened
36:34
to
36:34
the
36:34
Nelson
36:35
album.
36:35
It
36:35
was
36:35
great.
36:37
But
36:37
you
36:37
know
36:37
that
36:38
in
36:38
conjunction
36:39
with
36:39
the.
36:40
And
36:40
I
36:40
mean,
36:41
oh,
36:41
Lord
36:41
is
36:41
you
36:42
know,
36:42
a
36:42
great
36:43
song,
36:43
and
36:43
I've
36:43
been,
36:43
you
36:44
know,
36:44
listening
36:44
to
36:44
that
36:44
repeatedly
36:45
on
36:45
playlists.
36:45
But,
36:46
But
36:46
I
36:46
also
36:47
think
36:47
about
36:48
in
36:48
season
36:48
one,
36:49
when
36:50
they
36:50
incorporated
36:51
the
36:52
theme
36:52
song
36:52
into
36:53
the
36:53
final
36:54
episode
36:54
of
36:54
that
36:55
season.
36:55
It
36:55
was
36:56
in
36:57
midst
36:57
of
36:57
an
36:57
action
36:58
sequence,
36:58
so
36:58
it
36:58
very
36:59
much
36:59
complicated
36:59
the,
37:00
the
37:00
story
37:00
here.
37:00
It's
37:01
like,
37:01
yeah,
37:01
we
37:02
just
37:02
want
37:02
to
37:02
do
37:02
a
37:02
big
37:02
concert.
37:03
I
37:03
think
37:04
it's
37:04
like,
37:04
we
37:04
can.
37:05
So
37:05
I
37:06
would
37:06
have
37:06
liked
37:06
to
37:07
be.
37:07
Have
37:07
that
37:07
reduced
37:08
a
37:08
little
37:08
bit
37:08
and
37:09
used
37:09
it
37:09
to
37:09
focus
37:10
a
37:10
little
37:10
more
37:10
on,
37:11
let's
37:12
say,
37:12
Rick
37:12
Flag
37:13
or,
37:13
you
37:13
know,
37:14
something
37:14
going
37:14
on
37:14
there
37:15
to
37:15
set
37:15
up
37:16
salvation
37:17
a
37:17
little
37:17
more
37:17
or
37:17
maybe
37:18
get,
37:18
you
37:18
know,
37:18
I,
37:19
I'm
37:19
not,
37:19
I,
37:19
I,
37:20
I
37:20
don't
37:21
need
37:21
a
37:21
ton
37:21
of
37:22
cameos,
37:22
and
37:22
I
37:22
didn't
37:23
need
37:23
that
37:24
just
37:24
for
37:25
the
37:25
sake
37:25
of
37:25
it.
37:25
But
37:25
it
37:26
would
37:26
have
37:26
been
37:26
fun
37:26
to
37:26
maybe
37:27
have
37:27
one
37:27
more
37:28
alternate
37:29
universe
37:29
that
37:29
they
37:29
go
37:30
in
37:30
and
37:30
maybe,
37:30
maybe
37:31
if
37:31
it
37:31
was
37:31
even,
37:31
like,
37:32
Arrowverse
37:32
characters
37:33
they
37:33
saw
37:33
or
37:33
something
37:34
like
37:34
that.
37:34
I
37:34
don't
37:35
know.
37:35
You
37:35
know,
37:35
like,
37:35
that
37:36
just
37:36
would
37:36
have
37:36
been
37:36
fun.
37:37
So
37:37
there
37:38
was,
37:38
you
37:38
know,
37:38
kind
37:38
of
37:38
an
37:39
opportunity
37:39
there
37:39
still,
37:40
you
37:40
know,
37:40
a
37:40
good
37:40
episode
37:41
and
37:41
a
37:42
really
37:42
strong
37:42
season
37:43
overall.
37:43
But,
37:43
I
37:43
mean,
37:44
I
37:44
understand
37:44
the
37:44
criticisms
37:45
there,
37:45
but,
37:45
yes,
37:46
on
37:46
a
37:46
leaving
37:47
around
37:47
a
37:47
massive
37:47
cliffhanger,
37:48
I
37:48
just,
37:49
I
37:49
cannot
37:49
wait
37:50
to
37:50
see
37:50
how
37:50
the
37:51
Checkmate
37:51
storyline
37:52
plays
37:52
out,
37:52
how
37:52
the
37:53
Salvation
37:53
storyline
37:54
plays
37:54
out,
37:55
all
37:55
of
37:55
these
37:55
things.
37:56
Yeah,
37:56
I
37:56
want
37:57
it
37:57
now,
37:57
but
37:57
I
37:58
know
37:58
we're
37:58
gonna
37:58
have
37:58
to
37:58
be
37:58
patient,
37:59
and
37:59
that's
37:59
okay.
37:59
I
38:00
mean,
38:00
these
38:00
are
38:01
setups
38:01
for
38:01
a
38:02
larger
38:02
universe,
38:03
and
38:04
I,
38:04
I
38:05
trust
38:05
that
38:05
guy.
38:05
And
38:06
Peter
38:06
Safran
38:06
and
38:07
all
38:07
of
38:07
the
38:07
creators
38:08
at
38:08
DC
38:08
Studios
38:09
have
38:10
things
38:10
they're
38:10
cooking,
38:11
so
38:11
I'm
38:12
excited
38:12
to
38:12
see
38:12
where
38:12
that
38:12
goes,
38:13
but,
38:14
well,
38:15
let's
38:15
get
38:15
into
38:15
some
38:16
more
38:16
specifics,
38:17
though.
38:17
So
38:18
I
38:18
think
38:18
one
38:18
of
38:18
the
38:18
tenets
38:19
of
38:19
this
38:20
season
38:21
was
38:21
the
38:21
relationship
38:22
between
38:22
Chris
38:23
and
38:23
Harcourt
38:23
that
38:24
is
38:24
established
38:25
in
38:25
season
38:25
one.
38:26
We
38:27
learned
38:27
so
38:27
much
38:28
in
38:28
this
38:28
season
38:28
about
38:29
not
38:29
only
38:30
why
38:31
Harcourt
38:32
hated
38:33
Chris
38:33
so
38:34
passionately
38:35
at
38:35
the
38:35
beginning
38:35
of
38:36
season
38:36
one,
38:37
with
38:37
the
38:38
reveal
38:38
here
38:38
that
38:39
her
38:40
best
38:40
friend
38:41
was
38:42
Rick
38:42
Flag
38:43
Jr.
38:44
And
38:45
so
38:45
that
38:46
made
38:46
her
38:46
despise
38:47
Chris
38:48
from
38:48
the
38:48
beginning,
38:49
but
38:49
nonetheless,
38:51
they
38:51
have
38:51
this
38:51
camaraderie
38:52
that
38:53
kind
38:53
of
38:53
helps
38:54
her
38:54
come
38:54
around
38:54
a
38:55
little
38:55
bit
38:55
by
38:56
the
38:56
end
38:56
of
38:56
season
38:56
one.
38:57
There
38:57
is
38:57
a
38:58
will
38:58
they,
38:58
won't
38:58
they
38:59
element
38:59
to
38:59
it
39:00
that
39:00
is
39:00
explored
39:01
in
39:01
much
39:01
more
39:01
detail
39:02
here.
39:02
So
39:02
what
39:02
did
39:03
you
39:03
guys
39:03
think
39:03
about
39:04
this
39:05
relationship
39:05
and
39:05
how
39:06
it
39:06
played
39:06
out
39:06
over
39:07
the
39:07
course
39:07
of
39:07
season
39:08
two?
39:09
Yeah,
39:09
I
39:09
think
39:09
it
39:10
helps
39:10
build
39:10
up
39:10
on
39:10
her
39:11
really
39:11
well,
39:13
giving
39:14
her
39:14
more
39:14
motivation
39:14
of
39:15
why
39:15
she's
39:16
not
39:16
as
39:16
open,
39:17
why
39:17
she's
39:18
still
39:18
Wrestling
39:19
with
39:19
what
39:20
peacemaker
39:21
did
39:21
you
39:21
know
39:21
in
39:21
the
39:21
Suicide
39:22
Squad
39:22
movie?
39:22
And
39:23
in
39:23
season
39:23
one,
39:23
she's
39:24
gotten
39:24
to
39:24
know
39:24
him
39:24
better,
39:24
but
39:25
it's
39:25
still
39:25
the
39:25
man
39:26
who
39:26
took
39:26
her
39:27
friend
39:27
away.
39:27
Yes,
39:27
she
39:27
has
39:28
this
39:28
feelings
39:28
for
39:28
him.
39:29
And
39:30
as
39:30
Ms.
39:31
Toxic
39:31
Masculinity
39:32
herself,
39:32
as
39:33
is
39:33
pointed
39:33
out
39:33
in
39:33
this
39:34
show,
39:34
she's
39:35
not
39:35
able
39:35
to
39:35
handle
39:36
her
39:36
emotions
39:36
as
39:37
you
39:37
would
39:37
typically
39:37
expect
39:38
from
39:39
a
39:39
male
39:40
character.
39:41
And
39:41
I
39:41
think
39:41
that's
39:41
done
39:41
well.
39:42
Sure.
39:42
That
39:42
this
39:42
is
39:42
not
39:43
just
39:43
exclusively
39:44
a
39:44
male
39:44
trait.
39:46
Women
39:46
can
39:47
also
39:47
be
39:47
toxic
39:48
in
39:48
this
39:48
way,
39:49
even
39:49
if
39:49
they
39:50
know
39:50
it's
39:50
not
39:51
the
39:51
right
39:51
thing
39:51
to
39:51
do
39:51
emotionally
39:52
or
39:52
logically
39:53
or
39:53
what
39:53
have
39:53
you.
39:54
So
39:55
seeing
39:55
her
39:55
learn
39:56
to
39:56
grow
39:56
out
39:56
of
39:56
it
39:56
and
39:57
also
39:57
get
39:58
him
39:58
to
39:58
realize,
39:59
look,
40:00
this
40:00
world
40:00
is
40:00
perfect
40:01
for
40:01
you
40:01
that
40:01
we're
40:02
in
40:02
now,
40:03
but
40:03
it's
40:04
not
40:04
perfect
40:04
for
40:04
them.
40:05
And
40:06
you
40:06
haven't
40:06
you
40:07
noticed
40:07
these
40:07
things?
40:07
Haven't
40:07
even
40:08
looking
40:08
around
40:09
you.
40:09
You're
40:09
not
40:10
paying
40:10
attention.
40:10
And
40:10
she
40:11
found
40:11
out
40:11
after
40:11
being
40:11
in
40:12
there
40:12
for
40:12
not
40:12
even
40:12
a
40:13
whole
40:13
day
40:14
because
40:14
she
40:15
was
40:15
actually
40:16
looking
40:16
at
40:16
her
40:16
surroundings
40:18
versus
40:18
what
40:19
she
40:19
wanted
40:19
out
40:19
of
40:19
it,
40:20
but
40:20
also
40:21
because
40:21
she
40:21
does
40:22
love
40:22
him
40:22
and
40:23
she
40:23
wants
40:23
him
40:24
to
40:24
be
40:24
better
40:24
and
40:24
she
40:25
wants
40:25
herself
40:25
to
40:25
be
40:25
better
40:26
too.
40:26
But
40:26
she
40:26
can't
40:27
get
40:27
herself
40:27
there
40:28
yet
40:28
because
40:28
there's
40:29
that
40:29
part
40:29
of
40:29
her
40:29
that
40:29
doesn't
40:30
think
40:30
that
40:30
she
40:30
can.
40:31
And
40:32
yet,
40:33
as
40:33
we
40:33
find
40:34
out
40:34
a
40:34
long
40:34
way,
40:34
you
40:34
know,
40:35
they
40:35
are.
40:35
They
40:35
do
40:35
work
40:36
well
40:36
together.
40:36
There
40:37
is
40:37
something
40:37
there
40:38
that's
40:38
just
40:38
beyond
40:38
a
40:39
little
40:39
bit
40:39
of
40:39
chemistry,
40:40
that
40:41
they
40:41
do
40:41
make
40:41
each
40:42
other
40:42
better.
40:43
So
40:43
I
40:43
appreciate
40:44
what
40:44
they
40:44
did
40:45
with
40:45
the
40:45
two
40:45
of
40:45
them.
40:45
And
40:45
I
40:46
can
40:46
only
40:46
imagine
40:48
the
40:48
rampage
40:49
that's
40:49
gonna
40:49
ensue
40:50
after
40:50
she
40:50
learns
40:51
what
40:51
Flag
40:51
did,
40:53
which
40:53
I'm
40:54
not
40:54
too
40:54
big
40:54
on
40:54
him
40:54
going
40:55
full
40:55
waller,
40:55
but
40:55
that's
40:56
its
40:56
own
40:56
thing.
40:57
And
40:57
we'll
40:57
get
40:58
to
40:58
that.
40:58
I.
40:58
Yeah,
40:58
I
40:59
have
40:59
some
40:59
thoughts
40:59
on
40:59
reflexing
41:00
here
41:00
as
41:00
well.
41:02
Evan,
41:02
any
41:03
other
41:03
thoughts
41:03
about
41:04
Chris
41:05
and
41:05
Harcourt
41:05
in
41:06
the
41:06
season?
41:07
It
41:07
was
41:07
cool
41:07
to
41:08
see
41:08
the
41:09
different
41:09
sides
41:10
of.
41:10
Of
41:11
hardcore.
41:12
Like,
41:12
she's
41:13
not
41:13
so
41:14
hardcore
41:15
all
41:15
the
41:15
time,
41:16
so
41:16
it's
41:17
good
41:17
to
41:17
see
41:17
her
41:17
smile
41:18
and
41:20
actually
41:22
have
41:22
some.
41:24
Have
41:24
some
41:25
agency
41:26
in
41:26
these
41:27
relationships
41:29
other
41:30
than
41:30
she's
41:30
just
41:30
mad.
41:31
So
41:32
that
41:32
was
41:32
nice.
41:32
And
41:33
the
41:33
way
41:33
that
41:33
they
41:36
weave
41:36
her
41:36
story
41:37
in
41:37
and
41:37
out
41:38
all
41:38
the
41:38
way
41:38
up
41:39
until
41:39
the
41:39
finale
41:40
and
41:41
with.
41:42
With
41:42
the
41:42
restaurant
41:43
scene
41:44
and
41:45
they
41:45
keep
41:45
flashing
41:46
back
41:46
to
41:46
that
41:46
and.
41:47
And.
41:48
And
41:49
during
41:49
the
41:49
concert
41:50
where
41:50
she's,
41:51
like,
41:51
trying
41:52
to
41:52
enjoy
41:52
it
41:52
and
41:53
stuff
41:53
like
41:53
that.
41:53
But
41:54
no,
41:55
I
41:55
related
41:56
a
41:56
lot
41:57
to
41:57
their
41:57
relationship
41:58
of,
41:58
like,
41:59
they're
42:00
trying
42:00
to,
42:00
like,
42:01
fix
42:01
each
42:02
other
42:02
almost.
42:02
And
42:04
one's
42:04
kind
42:04
of
42:04
resistant
42:05
to
42:05
it.
42:07
Yeah.
42:07
And
42:09
it
42:09
was.
42:11
And
42:11
when.
42:11
And
42:12
when
42:12
that
42:12
came
42:13
to
42:13
a
42:13
peak
42:13
in
42:14
the
42:14
alternate
42:16
in
42:16
the
42:16
yerth
42:16
X,
42:18
she
42:18
utterly
42:18
came
42:19
through.
42:19
And
42:20
for
42:20
Chris
42:21
there.
42:21
No,
42:21
absolutely.
42:22
And
42:22
I
42:23
have
42:23
to
42:23
give
42:23
a
42:23
shout
42:23
out
42:24
to
42:24
Jennifer
42:24
Holland
42:25
in
42:25
the
42:25
season.
42:25
She
42:25
gives
42:26
a
42:26
phenomenal
42:26
performance
42:27
there.
42:27
There's
42:27
a
42:27
lot
42:28
of
42:28
great
42:28
acting
42:29
in
42:29
the
42:29
season
42:29
as
42:29
a
42:29
whole,
42:30
but
42:30
she
42:30
really
42:31
shows
42:31
those
42:31
different.
42:31
Different
42:32
sides
42:32
to
42:32
Harcourt
42:33
and
42:33
the
42:33
different
42:34
versions.
42:34
But.
42:35
And
42:35
what
42:35
I
42:35
really
42:35
like
42:36
too,
42:37
not
42:37
just,
42:37
you
42:37
know,
42:38
the
42:39
evolution
42:39
of
42:40
her
42:40
and
42:40
Chris's
42:41
relationship,
42:42
but
42:42
also
42:43
with
42:43
her
42:43
as
42:43
a
42:44
character.
42:44
And
42:44
this
42:45
theme
42:45
that
42:46
runs
42:46
through
42:47
with
42:47
several
42:48
characters
42:48
is
42:49
the
42:49
idea
42:49
of
42:50
them
42:50
being
42:51
caught
42:51
in
42:51
an
42:52
endless
42:52
system
42:53
that
42:53
they
42:54
know
42:54
is
42:55
unjust,
42:55
but
42:56
they
42:56
struggle
42:57
to
42:57
escape
42:57
it
42:57
because,
42:58
you
42:58
know,
42:58
Harcourt
42:59
is
42:59
someone
42:59
who
43:00
has
43:00
been
43:01
in
43:01
like
43:02
a
43:02
CIA
43:02
and
43:03
agencies
43:03
since
43:04
she
43:04
was
43:04
like
43:05
18,
43:05
and
43:06
this
43:06
is
43:06
all
43:06
she's
43:06
ever
43:07
known
43:07
how
43:07
to
43:07
do.
43:08
And
43:08
when
43:08
she
43:08
gets
43:09
to
43:09
the
43:09
end
43:09
of
43:09
the
43:09
season
43:10
and
43:10
she's
43:10
seen
43:11
Ben
43:11
through
43:11
the
43:11
ringer
43:12
and
43:12
she
43:12
knows
43:13
that,
43:13
you
43:13
know,
43:14
they're
43:14
like,
43:15
especially
43:15
once
43:16
the
43:17
salvation
43:17
plan
43:18
comes
43:18
into
43:18
play.
43:18
And
43:19
she
43:19
knows
43:19
how
43:19
corrupt
43:20
Rick
43:20
Flag
43:20
Senior
43:21
is,
43:21
but
43:22
she
43:22
doesn't
43:22
really
43:23
see
43:23
a
43:23
way
43:23
out
43:24
at
43:24
that
43:24
point.
43:24
And
43:24
she's
43:25
kind
43:25
of
43:25
at
43:25
in
43:25
this
43:26
mode
43:26
of,
43:27
well,
43:27
I'm
43:27
gonna
43:27
do
43:28
the
43:28
best
43:28
I
43:28
can.
43:28
And
43:29
it's
43:29
only
43:30
until
43:31
Sol
43:32
Rodriguez's
43:33
character
43:34
says
43:34
no
43:34
to
43:34
that
43:35
and
43:35
then
43:35
they're
43:36
able
43:36
to
43:36
team
43:36
up
43:36
with,
43:42
why
43:42
am
43:42
I
43:42
drawing
43:42
a
43:43
blank
43:43
on
43:43
the
43:43
name?
43:46
No.
43:46
With
43:47
Daniel
43:47
Brooks
43:48
character,
43:48
Adebayo
43:49
bio
43:50
comes
43:50
up
43:50
with
43:50
the
43:51
idea
43:51
that
43:51
ultimately
43:52
becomes
43:52
Checkmate.
43:53
And
43:53
so
43:53
that
43:53
changes
43:54
everything.
43:54
But
43:55
there's
43:55
also.
43:56
But
43:56
with
43:56
that,
43:56
you
43:57
know,
43:57
thr
43:57
storyline
43:57
of
43:58
her,
43:58
again,
43:59
being
44:00
reluctant
44:01
because
44:01
she
44:01
doesn't
44:02
really
44:02
know
44:02
a
44:02
way
44:02
out
44:03
of
44:03
the
44:03
system,
44:03
even
44:03
though
44:03
she
44:04
knows
44:04
it's
44:04
broken.
44:05
That
44:05
also
44:06
parallels
44:07
Auggie
44:08
in
44:08
Earth
44:08
X,
44:09
who
44:09
we,
44:09
you
44:10
know,
44:10
once
44:10
we
44:10
find
44:11
out
44:11
that
44:11
it
44:11
is
44:12
Earth
44:12
X,
44:12
we
44:13
assume
44:13
that,
44:13
oh,
44:14
he's
44:14
happy
44:15
because,
44:15
yeah,
44:16
I
44:16
mean,
44:16
we.
44:16
We
44:17
know
44:17
him
44:17
as
44:17
this
44:17
horrible
44:19
racist
44:19
monster
44:20
from
44:20
season
44:21
one
44:21
and
44:21
so
44:22
sure,
44:22
he's
44:22
gonna
44:23
be
44:23
happy
44:23
in
44:24
a
44:24
world
44:24
where
44:25
the
44:25
Nazis
44:25
won
44:25
World
44:26
War
44:26
II
44:26
and
44:26
surely
44:27
it's
44:27
everything
44:28
he
44:28
ever
44:28
wanted.
44:28
Then
44:29
we.
44:29
But
44:29
we
44:29
find
44:30
out
44:30
actually
44:30
that
44:31
this
44:31
version
44:32
of
44:32
Auggie
44:32
is
44:33
not
44:33
that,
44:33
but
44:34
rather
44:35
he
44:35
is
44:35
a
44:35
man
44:36
who
44:36
doesn't
44:37
actually
44:38
like
44:38
what's
44:39
going
44:39
on
44:39
and
44:40
the
44:40
world
44:40
he's
44:41
in,
44:41
but
44:41
he
44:42
basically
44:42
tries
44:43
to
44:43
do
44:43
the
44:43
best
44:43
he
44:44
can.
44:44
He
44:44
knows
44:45
he
44:45
can't,
44:45
you
44:46
know,
44:46
or
44:47
he
44:47
thinks
44:47
he
44:47
can't
44:48
tear
44:48
down
44:48
the
44:48
system
44:49
on
44:49
his
44:49
own.
44:50
So
44:51
he
44:51
does
44:51
the
44:51
best
44:52
to
44:52
be
44:52
a
44:52
good
44:52
person
44:53
as
44:53
best
44:54
he
44:54
can
44:54
in
44:54
a
44:54
broken
44:55
system.
44:55
And
44:55
that
44:56
parallels
44:56
Harcourt.
44:57
And
44:57
I
44:57
thought
44:57
that
44:57
was
44:57
a
44:57
really
44:57
interesting
44:58
concept
44:58
because
44:59
I
44:59
think
44:59
for
45:00
a
45:00
lot
45:00
of
45:01
people,
45:01
that's
45:02
really
45:02
how
45:02
we
45:02
feel,
45:03
whether
45:03
we
45:03
like
45:03
it
45:03
or
45:04
not.
45:04
It
45:04
is
45:04
something
45:04
we
45:05
have
45:05
to
45:05
confront
45:05
of,
45:06
yes,
45:06
we
45:06
see
45:06
injustices
45:07
in
45:07
the
45:07
world,
45:07
but
45:08
we
45:08
have
45:08
to
45:08
ask
45:08
ourselves,
45:09
are
45:09
we
45:09
willing
45:10
to
45:10
actually
45:11
go
45:12
that
45:12
far
45:12
and.
45:13
And,
45:14
you
45:14
know,
45:14
be
45:14
willing
45:15
to
45:16
stand
45:16
apart
45:17
from
45:17
the
45:17
system
45:17
that
45:18
we're
45:18
in,
45:19
or
45:19
are
45:19
we
45:19
going
45:19
to
45:20
reluctantly
45:22
kind
45:22
of
45:22
not
45:22
necessarily
45:23
embrace
45:23
it,
45:24
but
45:25
just
45:26
kind
45:26
of
45:26
be
45:27
the
45:27
best
45:27
we
45:28
can
45:28
in
45:29
the
45:29
middle
45:29
of
45:29
a
45:30
broken
45:30
system?
45:30
And
45:31
so
45:31
I
45:31
thought
45:32
it
45:32
was
45:32
really
45:33
bold
45:33
to
45:34
ask
45:34
those
45:34
questions,
45:35
to
45:35
explore
45:35
that
45:35
with
45:36
these
45:36
characters.
45:36
So
45:36
that's
45:37
something
45:37
that
45:37
I
45:37
thought
45:38
they
45:38
did
45:38
with
45:39
hardcore
45:39
and
45:40
with
45:40
this
45:40
version
45:40
of
45:40
Augie
45:41
quite
45:42
well.
45:42
Yeah.
45:42
That's
45:42
one
45:43
thing
45:43
that
45:43
I
45:43
did
45:44
not
45:44
see
45:44
coming,
45:44
was
45:46
that
45:48
this
45:48
version
45:49
of
45:51
Foggy
45:52
would
45:53
be
45:53
what
45:53
inspires
45:54
them
45:55
and
45:56
kind
45:56
of
45:56
gives
45:56
them
45:56
an
45:57
example
45:58
on
45:59
how
45:59
to
45:59
go
46:00
forward.
46:01
So
46:01
that
46:01
was
46:01
a
46:01
cool
46:01
twist.
46:02
Yeah.
46:04
Yeah.
46:05
I
46:05
really
46:05
appreciated
46:07
what
46:07
they
46:07
did
46:07
with
46:07
him,
46:08
too,
46:09
of
46:10
just
46:10
the
46:10
idea
46:11
of
46:11
being
46:11
in
46:11
the
46:11
system.
46:12
You've
46:12
been
46:12
raised
46:13
in
46:13
it,
46:13
and
46:13
yet
46:15
somehow
46:15
we
46:15
don't
46:16
get
46:16
all
46:16
the
46:16
details,
46:17
but
46:17
there's
46:17
something
46:18
had
46:18
to
46:18
have
46:18
happened
46:18
for
46:19
him
46:19
to
46:19
have
46:19
the
46:19
epiphany
46:20
of
46:20
this
46:21
is
46:21
wrong,
46:22
but
46:22
what
46:22
does
46:23
he
46:23
do
46:23
with
46:23
it?
46:24
And
46:24
there's
46:25
plenty
46:25
of
46:25
parallels,
46:26
you
46:26
know,
46:26
to
46:27
people
46:27
who
46:27
were
46:27
in.
46:28
You
46:28
know,
46:29
just
46:29
easy
46:30
example
46:30
here,
46:30
Nazi
46:31
Germany
46:32
who
46:33
didn't
46:33
know
46:34
what
46:34
they
46:34
could
46:34
do.
46:35
Did
46:35
they
46:35
actively
46:35
resist?
46:36
Did
46:36
they
46:36
peacefully
46:37
protest?
46:38
We've
46:38
got
46:38
the.
46:40
I
46:40
think
46:40
it
46:40
was
46:40
the
46:40
White
46:40
Rose,
46:41
which
46:41
were
46:41
a
46:41
group
46:42
of
46:42
students
46:43
who
46:44
peacefully
46:45
were
46:45
protesting
46:45
as
46:45
a
46:46
Nazi
46:46
regime.
46:46
And
46:47
they
46:47
were
46:47
killed
46:48
for
46:48
it,
46:48
murdered
46:49
for
46:49
it.
46:50
Then
46:51
we've
46:51
also
46:51
got
46:52
our
46:52
Bonhoeffers
46:53
and
46:53
Wurmbrand.
46:55
I
46:55
think
46:55
Wurmbrand
46:56
ended
46:56
up
46:56
in
46:56
a
46:56
concentration
46:57
camp,
46:57
too,
46:58
who
46:58
were
46:58
Christians
46:59
who
47:00
resisted
47:02
the
47:02
rise
47:02
of
47:03
Nazis
47:03
and
47:04
said,
47:04
this
47:04
isn't
47:04
how
47:04
things
47:05
should
47:05
go.
47:06
But
47:06
there
47:06
were
47:06
also
47:07
plenty
47:07
of
47:07
other
47:07
people
47:08
who
47:08
didn't
47:08
do
47:08
those
47:08
things,
47:09
but
47:09
also
47:09
felt
47:10
that
47:10
it
47:10
was
47:10
wrong,
47:11
but
47:11
they
47:12
didn't
47:12
want
47:12
to,
47:13
or
47:13
they
47:13
couldn't
47:13
imagine
47:14
actively
47:15
resisting
47:15
because,
47:15
oh,
47:16
no,
47:16
what
47:16
if
47:16
this
47:16
puts
47:17
my
47:17
family
47:17
in
47:17
danger?
47:18
Or
47:18
if
47:18
I
47:19
try
47:19
to
47:19
subtly
47:19
influence
47:20
my
47:20
sons
47:20
in
47:20
this
47:21
universe,
47:21
are
47:21
they
47:21
going
47:21
to,
47:22
you
47:22
know,
47:22
pull
47:22
rank
47:23
and
47:23
then
47:23
report
47:24
on
47:24
me?
47:24
Like,
47:25
what
47:25
happened
47:25
to
47:25
countless
47:25
people
47:26
with
47:26
the
47:26
Hitler
47:26
Youth?
47:28
And
47:28
that's
47:29
Jeremy.
47:29
We
47:29
didn't
47:29
report
47:30
on
47:30
their
47:30
own
47:30
families
47:31
because
47:31
they
47:31
let
47:31
things
47:32
slip.
47:33
Yeah.
47:34
To
47:34
be
47:35
in
47:35
that
47:35
situation,
47:35
it
47:36
makes
47:36
me
47:36
love
47:36
his
47:36
character
47:37
a
47:37
lot
47:37
more.
47:38
He
47:38
was
47:38
a
47:39
good
47:39
character
47:39
in
47:39
the
47:39
first
47:40
season,
47:40
but
47:40
he's
47:41
good
47:41
In
47:41
a
47:41
different
47:41
way
47:42
here,
47:42
obviously
47:43
being
47:43
a
47:43
different
47:43
character
47:43
in
47:44
another
47:44
universe,
47:45
because
47:45
that
47:45
adds
47:46
a
47:46
lot
47:46
more
47:46
depth
47:47
to
47:47
that.
47:48
What
47:48
does
47:48
it
47:49
mean?
47:49
How
47:49
did
47:49
he
47:49
learn?
47:51
What
47:51
did
47:51
he
47:51
decide
47:52
to
47:52
do?
47:52
Did
47:52
he
47:52
just
47:53
decide
47:53
to
47:54
help
47:54
as
47:54
best
47:54
he
47:54
could?
47:56
Is
47:56
he
47:56
a
47:56
member
47:56
of
47:56
the
47:57
Resistance?
47:57
And
47:57
he
47:57
hasn't
47:57
admitted
47:58
it
47:58
out
47:58
loud
47:58
yet
47:58
to
47:59
anyone,
47:59
like,
47:59
what's
48:00
going
48:00
on
48:00
there?
48:01
I
48:01
really
48:02
appreciate
48:02
that.
48:03
Also,
48:03
quick
48:04
side
48:04
note.
48:04
So
48:05
I
48:05
listened
48:06
to
48:06
the
48:06
entirety
48:07
of
48:07
the
48:07
podcast
48:08
that
48:08
James
48:08
got,
48:09
and
48:09
Jennifer
48:09
Holland
48:10
and
48:10
Steve
48:10
Agee
48:11
hosted
48:11
the
48:11
companion
48:12
podcast
48:13
where
48:13
they
48:13
broke
48:13
everything
48:14
down.
48:15
One
48:15
thing
48:15
that,
48:16
like,
48:16
one
48:16
plot
48:17
line
48:17
that
48:17
James
48:18
Gunn
48:18
originally
48:19
wrote
48:19
in
48:19
one
48:19
draft
48:20
and
48:20
then
48:20
cut
48:20
was
48:21
he
48:21
had
48:22
Murn
48:23
come
48:23
back
48:23
in
48:23
this
48:24
season
48:24
in
48:24
the
48:24
alternate
48:25
universe
48:26
as
48:26
a
48:26
resistance
48:27
leader,
48:27
as
48:28
part
48:28
of
48:28
the
48:28
Sons
48:28
of
48:28
Liberty,
48:29
and
48:29
was
48:30
this
48:30
big
48:30
action
48:30
hero.
48:31
And
48:31
I'm
48:31
like,
48:31
oh,
48:32
I
48:32
wish
48:32
that
48:32
had
48:32
been
48:33
kept
48:33
in,
48:33
because
48:33
I
48:33
would
48:33
have
48:33
loved
48:34
to
48:34
see
48:34
that.
48:34
I
48:34
think
48:34
that
48:34
would
48:35
have
48:35
been
48:35
perfect
48:35
for
48:36
episode
48:36
seven.
48:36
But.
48:37
But
48:37
I
48:37
digress.
48:38
But
48:38
I,
48:38
you
48:38
know,
48:38
I
48:39
just.
48:39
Because,
48:39
like,
48:39
Mern
48:40
was
48:40
my
48:40
favorite
48:40
character
48:41
in
48:41
season
48:41
one.
48:42
I
48:43
think
48:43
that
48:43
would
48:43
have
48:43
been
48:43
awesome.
48:43
But
48:44
Christian.
48:45
Okay,
48:46
correction.
48:47
Worm
48:47
brand
48:47
wasn't
48:48
Nazi
48:48
Germany.
48:49
It
48:49
was
48:49
Communist
48:50
Romania.
48:51
Okay,
48:52
yes.
48:53
Different
48:53
bad
48:53
guys
48:54
of
48:54
a
48:54
different
48:54
flavor.
49:46
Got
49:46
it,
49:46
got
49:47
it,
49:47
got
49:47
it.
49:47
Yeah.
49:48
But.
49:49
But
49:49
yes,
49:49
I
49:49
would
49:50
have
49:50
loved
49:50
to
49:50
see
49:50
Murran
49:51
there.
49:51
That
49:51
would
49:51
have
49:51
been
49:51
cool.
49:51
But
49:52
alas,
49:52
you
49:52
know,
49:52
there.
49:53
There
49:53
was
49:53
a
49:53
lot
49:53
going
49:54
on
49:54
this
49:54
season,
49:54
so.
49:55
So,
49:55
you
49:55
know,
49:55
it
49:55
is
49:55
what
49:55
it
49:56
is.
49:56
But
49:57
I
49:57
also
49:57
want
49:58
to
49:58
talk.
49:58
So
49:58
I
49:58
mentioned,
49:58
even
49:59
though
49:59
I've
49:59
had
49:59
a
49:59
brain
50:00
fart,
50:00
but
50:00
at
50:01
a
50:01
bio,
50:01
I
50:01
want
50:01
to
50:02
give
50:02
a
50:02
huge
50:02
shout
50:03
out,
50:03
I
50:03
think
50:03
is
50:04
arguably
50:04
the
50:04
best
50:05
character
50:05
in
50:05
the
50:06
entire
50:06
series.
50:07
Daniel
50:07
Brooks
50:08
gives
50:08
just
50:09
an
50:09
Emmy
50:09
worthy
50:10
performance
50:11
in
50:12
this
50:12
season
50:12
that.
50:13
I
50:13
mean,
50:13
because
50:14
that
50:14
scene
50:15
in
50:15
the
50:15
finale
50:16
when
50:17
she
50:17
is
50:18
the
50:18
one
50:18
who.
50:19
Well,
50:19
she
50:19
has
50:19
two
50:19
great
50:20
scenes,
50:20
the
50:20
finale,
50:20
because
50:21
one
50:21
is
50:22
when
50:22
she
50:23
and
50:24
her
50:24
wife
50:24
decide
50:25
to,
50:26
you
50:26
know,
50:26
firmly
50:27
recognize
50:27
that,
50:27
you
50:28
know,
50:28
while
50:28
they
50:28
care
50:29
for
50:29
each
50:29
other,
50:29
they
50:30
know
50:30
it's
50:30
not
50:30
going
50:30
to
50:31
work
50:31
out
50:31
between
50:31
them.
50:31
And
50:32
it's
50:32
a
50:32
wonderfully
50:33
written,
50:33
wonderfully
50:33
active
50:34
scene.
50:34
But
50:34
probably
50:35
even
50:35
more
50:35
so
50:36
is
50:37
this
50:37
scene
50:37
when
50:39
Chris
50:39
is
50:39
at
50:39
his
50:39
lowest
50:40
point.
50:40
He
50:41
doesn't
50:41
even
50:41
want
50:41
to
50:42
be
50:42
rescued
50:42
from
50:43
jail.
50:43
He
50:44
thinks
50:44
that
50:45
he
50:45
is
50:45
the
50:45
reason
50:47
that
50:47
people
50:47
around
50:48
him
50:48
die.
50:49
And
50:49
she's
50:50
the
50:50
one
50:50
who
50:50
is
50:50
there
50:51
as
50:51
his
50:51
best
50:52
friend
50:52
and
50:53
lifts
50:53
him
50:53
up
50:54
from
50:54
the
50:54
ground
50:54
and
50:55
says,
50:55
no,
50:55
you're
50:56
the
50:56
reason.
50:57
Like,
50:57
we
50:58
are
50:58
the
50:58
11th
50:58
street
50:59
kids
50:59
and
51:00
you're
51:00
there,
51:00
and
51:01
the
51:01
deaths
51:02
that
51:02
have
51:02
happened
51:02
are
51:03
not
51:03
your
51:04
fault.
51:04
Like,
51:04
those
51:05
things
51:05
would
51:05
have
51:05
happened
51:06
either
51:07
way.
51:07
And
51:08
you
51:08
are
51:09
the
51:09
leader
51:10
we
51:10
need
51:10
here.
51:11
And
51:11
I
51:11
just.
51:12
It.
51:12
What
51:12
makes
51:13
it
51:13
even
51:13
more
51:13
heartbreaking
51:14
is
51:14
because
51:15
it's
51:15
soon
51:15
followed
51:16
by
51:17
Chris
51:17
getting
51:18
abducted
51:19
by
51:19
Rick
51:20
Flag
51:20
Senior
51:20
and
51:20
then
51:21
thrown
51:21
into
51:21
the
51:21
salvation
51:22
world.
51:22
And
51:22
I'm
51:22
like,
51:22
oh,
51:23
this
51:23
makes
51:23
it
51:23
even,
51:24
like
51:24
more,
51:25
you
51:25
know,
51:26
rips
51:26
my
51:26
heart
51:26
out.
51:26
But.
51:27
But
51:28
she
51:28
gives
51:28
such
51:28
a
51:29
phenomenal
51:29
performance
51:29
there.
51:30
And
51:30
the
51:30
character
51:31
especially,
51:32
you
51:32
know,
51:32
introduced
51:33
in
51:33
season
51:33
one
51:34
as
51:34
the
51:35
daughter
51:35
of
51:35
Amanda
51:35
Waller.
51:36
And
51:36
you're
51:36
like,
51:36
oh,
51:37
that's
51:37
a
51:37
cool
51:37
twist.
51:37
It's
51:38
like,
51:38
oh,
51:38
is
51:38
how
51:38
is
51:38
this
51:38
gonna
51:39
play
51:39
out?
51:39
And
51:39
I
51:40
just
51:40
love
51:40
what
51:40
they
51:40
do
51:41
with
51:41
her
51:41
entire
51:42
entire
51:42
storyline
51:43
going
51:43
back
51:43
to
51:44
the
51:44
formation
51:45
of
51:45
Checkmate.
51:46
And,
51:46
you
51:46
know,
51:47
Harcourt
51:48
is
51:48
ready
51:48
to.
51:49
Even
51:49
after
51:50
going
51:50
through
51:50
everything
51:51
this
51:51
season,
51:51
she's
51:53
just
51:53
says,
51:53
you
51:54
know,
51:54
to
51:54
Saul
51:55
Rodriguez's
51:55
character
51:56
that,
51:56
oh,
51:56
you
51:57
know,
51:57
the
51:57
system
51:57
is
51:58
what
51:58
it
51:58
is.
51:58
There's
51:58
not
51:58
really
51:59
anything
51:59
we
51:59
can
51:59
do.
51:59
But
52:00
Saul
52:00
Rodriguez's
52:01
character
52:01
is
52:01
like,
52:01
no,
52:01
we
52:02
have
52:02
to.
52:02
And
52:03
Adebayo
52:04
is
52:04
the
52:04
one
52:05
who
52:06
comes
52:06
up
52:06
with
52:06
the
52:06
idea
52:07
for
52:07
Checkmate
52:08
and
52:08
that
52:09
propels
52:10
the
52:10
team
52:10
going
52:10
forward.
52:11
And
52:11
I'm
52:12
very
52:12
excited
52:12
whenever
52:13
we
52:13
do
52:13
see
52:14
that
52:14
storyline
52:14
play
52:15
out
52:15
in
52:15
whatever
52:16
form.
52:16
I
52:16
can't
52:16
wait
52:17
to
52:17
see
52:18
how
52:18
what
52:18
happens
52:19
there,
52:20
you
52:20
know,
52:20
whether
52:20
we
52:21
get
52:21
a
52:21
check
52:21
bait
52:21
series
52:22
or
52:22
what.
52:22
But.
52:23
But
52:23
I
52:23
just
52:23
love
52:24
what
52:24
they've
52:24
done
52:24
with
52:25
Adebayo
52:25
throughout
52:26
the
52:26
series.
52:27
And
52:28
I
52:28
love
52:28
all
52:28
the
52:28
11
52:29
string
52:29
kids,
52:29
but
52:29
I
52:30
think
52:30
she's
52:30
my
52:30
favorite.
52:31
She's
52:31
just,
52:31
you
52:32
know,
52:32
the
52:32
wonderful
52:32
actor,
52:33
wonderful
52:34
character,
52:34
I
52:34
think.
52:34
I
52:34
think
52:34
she's
52:35
probably
52:35
the
52:35
most
52:35
relatable
52:36
because
52:36
she
52:36
is.
52:36
She
52:37
comes
52:37
in
52:37
and
52:37
as
52:38
this
52:38
outsider,
52:39
she's
52:39
like,
52:39
trying
52:39
to
52:39
do
52:40
good,
52:40
but
52:40
she's
52:41
manipulated,
52:41
torn
52:42
around,
52:42
but
52:43
eventually
52:44
comes
52:44
to
52:44
be
52:46
the
52:46
best
52:46
friend
52:47
that
52:47
Chris
52:48
needs,
52:49
the
52:49
hero
52:50
that
52:50
this
52:51
team
52:51
needs.
52:52
And
52:52
yeah,
52:53
I
52:53
really
52:53
can't
52:54
wait
52:54
to
52:54
see
52:54
all
52:54
of
52:54
these
52:55
characters
52:55
again
52:57
whenever
52:57
we
52:58
do
52:58
see
52:58
them
52:58
in
52:59
future
52:59
movies.
52:59
And
52:59
shows
53:01
even
53:01
earlier
53:02
on
53:02
in
53:02
the
53:03
finale,
53:03
there's
53:03
a
53:04
great
53:04
moment
53:05
between
53:05
her
53:05
and
53:05
Vigilante
53:06
where
53:07
she
53:07
manipulates
53:08
him.
53:09
Like,
53:09
knowing
53:09
who
53:09
he
53:10
is,
53:10
she's
53:10
kind
53:10
of
53:10
learned.
53:11
Okay,
53:12
I
53:12
wouldn't
53:13
normally
53:13
say
53:13
this,
53:13
but
53:13
because
53:14
you're
53:14
you,
53:14
I
53:14
have
53:14
to
53:15
word
53:15
it
53:15
this
53:15
way
53:17
of
53:17
getting
53:18
him
53:18
to
53:18
use
53:18
all
53:18
the
53:18
drug
53:19
money
53:19
that.
53:19
From
53:20
the
53:20
bus
53:20
that
53:20
he's
53:20
had,
53:21
that
53:21
he
53:22
is
53:22
just
53:22
honor
53:23
before
53:23
reason
53:23
of
53:24
it's
53:24
blood
53:24
money.
53:24
I
53:25
can't
53:25
use
53:25
it.
53:25
Well,
53:25
she
53:26
gets
53:26
him
53:26
to
53:26
use
53:26
it
53:27
because
53:27
what
53:28
does
53:28
he
53:28
love
53:28
more
53:28
than
53:29
his
53:29
honor?
53:29
He.
53:30
He
53:30
loves
53:31
Peacemaker.
53:32
So
53:32
bailing
53:33
him
53:33
out
53:33
of
53:33
jail
53:33
and
53:34
then
53:34
later
53:34
on
53:34
using
53:35
it
53:35
to
53:35
help
53:35
fund
53:36
Checkmate
53:37
because
53:37
the
53:37
money's
53:37
just
53:38
lying
53:38
There.
53:38
But
53:38
could
53:39
you
53:39
imagine
53:39
doing
53:39
something
53:39
good
53:40
with
53:40
it
53:41
as
53:41
opposed
53:41
to
53:41
the
53:41
evil
53:42
that
53:42
normally
53:42
would
53:42
have
53:43
been
53:43
used
53:43
for
53:43
it
53:43
had
53:43
you
53:44
not,
53:44
you
53:44
know,
53:44
busted
53:45
those
53:45
dealers
53:46
and
53:46
who
53:47
are
53:47
wreaking
53:47
devastation
53:48
with
53:49
the
53:49
epidemics
53:50
that
53:50
they
53:50
were
53:50
throwing
53:51
out,
53:51
with
53:51
people
53:52
being
53:52
fueled
53:53
and
53:53
corrupted
53:54
by
53:54
the.
53:54
The
53:54
drugs
53:55
they
53:55
were
53:55
addicted
53:56
to,
53:56
like.
53:57
Like,
53:57
let's
53:57
use
53:57
it
53:57
for
53:58
good.
53:59
And.
54:00
And
54:00
any
54:00
character,
54:02
I
54:02
don't
54:02
care
54:02
who.
54:03
Who
54:03
can
54:03
stand
54:03
up
54:04
to
54:04
Amanda
54:04
Waller.
54:05
You've
54:05
earned
54:06
my
54:06
respect.
54:06
Yeah.
54:07
And
54:07
a
54:08
bonus
54:08
points.
54:08
That's
54:09
your
54:09
mom.
54:11
Yeah.
54:11
So
54:12
Adebayo
54:12
definitely
54:13
is
54:13
one
54:13
of
54:13
my
54:14
favorites
54:14
in
54:14
the
54:14
series.
54:14
I
54:15
can
54:15
definitely
54:15
agree
54:15
there.
54:16
I
54:17
might
54:17
etch
54:18
out
54:18
Vigilante
54:18
a
54:18
little
54:19
more
54:19
than
54:19
her
54:19
character.
54:20
Wise
54:20
as
54:21
far
54:21
as
54:21
loving.
54:21
But
54:21
you
54:21
know
54:21
what?
54:22
I
54:23
haven't,
54:23
like,
54:23
sat
54:23
down
54:24
and
54:24
think
54:24
this
54:24
is
54:24
exactly.
54:25
I'm
54:25
going
54:25
to
54:25
create
54:25
my
54:25
tier
54:26
list
54:26
for
54:26
peacemaker
54:27
characters.
54:27
But,
54:28
yeah,
54:29
great
54:29
points.
54:30
Having
54:31
that.
54:31
She
54:32
kind
54:32
of
54:32
becomes
54:32
like
54:32
the
54:32
moral
54:33
center.
54:34
You
54:34
know,
54:34
Economist
54:35
is
54:35
kind
54:35
of
54:35
there
54:35
too,
54:35
as
54:35
a
54:35
moral
54:36
center,
54:36
but
54:36
she's
54:37
a
54:37
different
54:37
flavor
54:38
and
54:38
bringing
54:39
them
54:39
all
54:39
together.
54:39
She
54:40
knows
54:40
them
54:40
well.
54:40
She
54:41
knows
54:41
how
54:41
to
54:41
play
54:41
them
54:41
against
54:42
each
54:42
other.
54:42
Not
54:42
like
54:42
in
54:43
a
54:43
manipulative
54:43
way,
54:43
but,
54:44
like,
54:44
okay,
54:44
this
54:44
is
54:45
what
54:45
it
54:45
means.
54:45
I
54:46
have
54:46
to
54:46
play
54:46
the
54:46
game
54:47
so
54:47
I
54:47
can
54:47
get
54:47
you
54:48
to
54:48
do
54:48
the
54:48
right
54:48
thing.
54:49
And
54:49
sometimes
54:50
you
54:50
got
54:50
to
54:50
have
54:50
characters
54:50
like
54:51
that.
54:51
You
54:51
need
54:51
friends
54:51
like
54:51
that.
54:52
And
54:53
I'm
54:53
glad
54:53
she's
54:53
a
54:54
ram.
54:54
Absolutely.
54:55
Oh,
54:55
and
54:55
Vigilante,
54:56
I
54:56
mean,
54:56
of
54:56
course
54:57
we
54:57
have
54:57
to
54:57
talk
54:57
about
54:57
that.
54:58
It's
54:58
just.
54:58
This
54:59
is,
54:59
I
54:59
think,
54:59
one
54:59
of
55:00
my
55:00
favorite
55:00
scenes
55:01
in
55:02
maybe
55:02
this
55:02
year.
55:03
A
55:03
lot
55:03
of
55:03
the.
55:04
When
55:05
Vigilante
55:06
and
55:06
his
55:06
alternate
55:07
self
55:07
recreate
55:08
the
55:08
Spider
55:09
man
55:09
meme
55:10
their
55:10
dynamics.
55:11
There
55:11
is
55:11
just
55:11
like.
55:12
There's
55:12
just
55:12
so
55:12
many.
55:13
Well,
55:13
I
55:13
think
55:13
what
55:13
I
55:13
find
55:13
fascinating
55:14
about
55:14
Vigilante
55:14
is,
55:15
you
55:15
know,
55:15
he
55:16
has
55:16
a
55:17
care
55:17
for
55:17
his
55:17
friends
55:18
and
55:18
he
55:18
has
55:18
the,
55:18
you
55:19
know,
55:20
ultimately,
55:21
I
55:21
think
55:21
has
55:22
a
55:22
good
55:22
heart
55:23
or
55:23
like,
55:23
well,
55:24
going
55:25
back
55:25
to
55:25
the
55:25
drug
55:25
money
55:25
thing,
55:26
it's
55:26
like,
55:26
okay,
55:26
he
55:27
refuses
55:27
to
55:28
use
55:29
the
55:29
money
55:30
that
55:30
he's
55:30
gotten
55:30
from
55:31
beating
55:31
up
55:31
drug
55:32
dealers
55:33
because
55:33
he
55:34
sees
55:35
it
55:35
as
55:35
blood
55:35
money.
55:35
But
55:36
then
55:36
he
55:36
treats
55:37
his
55:37
mom
55:37
horribly.
55:38
He's
55:38
just
55:38
such
55:38
a.
55:39
He's
55:39
such
55:39
a
55:39
wild
55:40
card
55:40
and
55:40
such
55:40
a
55:40
contrast.
55:41
And
55:41
then
55:41
Freddie
55:42
Stroma,
55:43
like,
55:43
oh,
55:43
this
55:43
is
55:43
another
55:44
fun
55:45
fact
55:45
about
55:45
that
55:45
I
55:46
got
55:46
from
55:46
the
55:46
podcast.
55:47
It
55:47
was
55:47
originally
55:48
another
55:48
actor
55:49
in
55:50
season
55:50
one,
55:50
Casper
55:52
for
55:52
Vigilante,
55:53
and
55:53
they
55:53
actually
55:53
filmed
55:54
quite
55:54
a
55:54
bit
55:54
of
55:55
it.
55:55
And
55:55
James
55:55
Gunn
55:56
just
55:56
said,
55:56
you
55:57
know,
55:57
like,
55:57
I
55:57
mean,
55:58
it
55:58
was
55:58
a
55:58
good
55:58
actor,
55:58
but
55:59
he
55:59
never
56:00
revealed
56:00
who
56:00
it
56:00
was,
56:00
but.
56:01
But
56:02
said
56:02
it
56:02
just
56:02
wasn't
56:03
working.
56:03
And
56:04
they
56:04
ended
56:04
up
56:04
getting
56:04
Freddy's
56:05
drama
56:06
much
56:06
later.
56:06
And
56:07
they
56:07
had
56:07
to
56:07
reshoot
56:08
a
56:08
lot
56:08
and
56:08
see
56:08
season
56:08
one,
56:08
and
56:09
they
56:09
had
56:09
to.
56:09
And
56:10
he's
56:10
actually
56:11
not
56:11
the
56:11
one
56:11
in
56:12
the
56:12
dance
56:12
sequence
56:13
in
56:13
season
56:13
one.
56:14
So,
56:14
you
56:15
know,
56:15
there's
56:15
a
56:15
lot.
56:15
You
56:15
know,
56:16
it
56:16
was
56:16
really
56:16
fascinating,
56:17
but
56:17
it's
56:17
so
56:17
interesting
56:18
because
56:18
I
56:18
cannot
56:19
see
56:19
anyone
56:19
else
56:20
but
56:20
him
56:21
in
56:21
this
56:21
role.
56:22
Same
56:22
with
56:23
John
56:23
Cena's
56:23
Peacemaker,
56:24
and
56:24
that's
56:24
the
56:24
other.
56:24
Oh,
56:25
I
56:25
know
56:25
I'm
56:26
going
56:26
off
56:26
on
56:26
random
56:27
tangents
56:27
here,
56:27
but
56:28
James
56:29
Gunn
56:29
originally
56:29
wrote
56:30
the
56:30
role
56:30
of
56:30
Peacemaker
56:31
back
56:31
in
56:32
Suicide
56:32
Squad
56:32
for
56:33
Dave
56:33
Bautista,
56:34
and
56:34
Bautista
56:35
wasn't
56:35
able
56:35
to
56:36
do
56:36
it.
56:36
And
56:36
it's
56:37
like,
56:37
I
56:37
could
56:37
see
56:37
that,
56:38
but
56:38
I
56:38
also.
56:39
It's.
56:39
It's
56:40
just
56:40
John
56:40
Cena
56:41
here.
56:41
It's
56:42
like
56:42
RDJ
56:43
and
56:43
Iron
56:43
Man.
56:43
It's
56:43
just.
56:43
I.
56:44
There's
56:44
no
56:45
one
56:45
else
56:45
that
56:45
could
56:46
do
56:46
it
56:46
as
56:46
well.
56:46
I
56:46
love
56:46
Batista,
56:47
but.
56:48
But
56:48
I,
56:48
like,
56:48
save
56:49
him
56:49
for
56:49
Bane,
56:49
I
56:50
think.
56:50
You
56:50
know,
56:50
like.
56:50
But
56:51
John
56:51
Cena
56:52
just
56:52
was
56:52
born
56:52
to
56:52
play
56:53
this
56:53
role.
56:54
Same
56:54
with
56:55
Freddie
56:55
Sharma
56:56
playing
56:56
Vigilante.
56:57
It's
56:57
just,
56:57
like,
56:57
you
56:57
could
56:58
not
56:58
have
56:58
gotten
56:58
better
56:58
casting
56:59
here.
56:59
And
57:00
so
57:00
I
57:00
was
57:00
glad
57:01
that
57:01
that
57:01
worked
57:01
out.
57:01
Out.
57:02
But.
57:02
Yeah,
57:03
but
57:03
it's
57:03
just.
57:03
It's
57:04
not
57:04
just
57:04
comic
57:04
relief
57:04
here,
57:05
but
57:05
he
57:05
also
57:06
undergoes
57:06
some
57:07
really
57:07
great
57:07
emotional
57:08
moments
57:08
and
57:08
emotional
57:09
arcs
57:09
here.
57:09
I.
57:09
That's
57:10
what
57:10
I
57:10
love,
57:10
is
57:10
that
57:11
each
57:12
of
57:12
these
57:12
characters
57:12
are
57:13
taken
57:13
seriously,
57:14
even
57:14
in
57:14
a
57:14
show
57:15
that
57:15
is
57:16
in
57:16
a
57:16
rather
57:17
absurd
57:17
world,
57:17
and
57:18
it
57:18
has
57:19
all
57:19
this
57:19
crazy
57:20
stuff
57:20
going
57:20
on.
57:21
These
57:21
are
57:21
still.
57:22
All
57:22
of
57:23
them
57:23
have
57:24
very.
57:24
Are
57:24
taken
57:25
seriously.
57:25
They
57:26
have
57:27
really
57:28
fundamental
57:28
arcs,
57:29
and
57:29
they're.
57:29
None
57:29
of
57:29
them
57:30
feel
57:30
like
57:30
characters.
57:31
I
57:31
mean.
57:31
I
57:31
mean,
57:32
even
57:32
Judo
57:32
Master,
57:33
who
57:33
we
57:33
thought.
57:33
You
57:33
know,
57:33
I
57:34
actually
57:34
wasn't
57:34
really
57:34
expecting
57:35
to
57:35
come
57:35
back
57:35
in
57:35
the
57:35
season.
57:36
They.
57:36
They've
57:37
now
57:37
made
57:37
him
57:38
part
57:38
of
57:38
the
57:38
Checkmate
57:39
team.
57:39
It's.
57:40
It's
57:40
fascinating
57:40
to
57:40
see
57:41
how
57:41
these
57:41
characters
57:42
have
57:42
grown,
57:42
even
57:43
over
57:43
the
57:43
course
57:43
of
57:44
just
57:44
two
57:44
seasons.
57:45
One
57:45
thing
57:46
that
57:46
I
57:46
learned,
57:47
it's
57:47
just
57:47
kind
57:47
of
57:47
off
57:48
topic,
57:48
but
57:50
the
57:50
actor
57:50
that
57:50
plays
57:51
Vigilante,
57:52
he's
57:52
the
57:53
same
57:53
actor
57:54
that
57:54
trained
57:55
Harry
57:56
Potter
57:56
and
57:56
Quidditch
57:57
in
57:57
the
57:57
first
57:58
Harry
57:58
Potter
57:58
movie.
57:59
It's
57:59
the
57:59
same
57:59
guy.
58:00
He's
58:00
in
58:00
that.
58:00
Yeah.
58:01
I
58:01
was
58:01
like,
58:01
no
58:01
way.
58:02
Yeah.
58:03
Fuzzy.
58:04
How?
58:04
Well,
58:04
I
58:04
recognize
58:04
actors.
58:07
Wait
58:07
in
58:08
the
58:08
front.
58:08
I
58:08
think
58:08
he's
58:09
in.
58:10
I
58:10
think
58:10
he's
58:10
in,
58:10
like,
58:11
not
58:11
the
58:11
one
58:11
who
58:11
trains
58:12
it,
58:12
but
58:12
he
58:12
is
58:12
in
58:12
a
58:13
Harry
58:13
Potter
58:13
movie.
58:13
I
58:13
think
58:13
he's
58:14
in,
58:14
like,
58:14
Goblet
58:14
of
58:14
Fire,
58:15
though.
58:15
Maybe.
58:15
Okay.
58:15
Yeah.
58:16
I
58:17
think
58:17
it's
58:17
like,
58:17
because,
58:18
you
58:18
know,
58:18
the
58:18
one
58:18
who
58:18
trains
58:19
him
58:19
in,
58:19
like,
58:19
the
58:19
first
58:20
one
58:20
is
58:20
older
58:21
and
58:21
stuff,
58:21
but
58:21
he
58:22
isn't
58:22
everybody.
58:22
He's
58:23
in
58:23
Game
58:23
of
58:23
Thrones
58:24
in
58:24
something,
58:24
too.
58:26
Yeah,
58:26
there
58:26
were.
58:26
I
58:27
saw
58:27
a
58:27
reel
58:27
the
58:27
other
58:28
day
58:28
that
58:28
had
58:28
some
58:28
of
58:28
his
58:28
previous
58:29
roles.
58:29
So,
58:29
yeah,
58:30
a
58:30
lot
58:31
of
58:31
the.
58:31
A
58:31
lot
58:31
of
58:31
actors
58:32
you
58:32
do
58:32
see
58:32
and
58:33
other
58:33
things
58:33
before
58:33
you
58:34
actually
58:34
recognize
58:35
them
58:35
in
58:35
a
58:35
role.
58:35
Oh,
58:36
and
58:36
I
58:36
didn't
58:37
know
58:37
that
58:38
Economos
58:39
was.
58:39
Was
58:40
also
58:40
King
58:41
Shark.
58:41
He
58:42
was.
58:42
Yeah.
58:42
So
58:43
Steve
58:43
Ag
58:43
is
58:44
like
58:44
a
58:45
King
58:45
Shark.
58:45
It
58:45
was
58:45
always.
58:46
It
58:46
was
58:46
the
58:46
voice
58:46
of
58:46
Sylvester
58:47
Stallone,
58:48
but
58:48
Steve
58:49
Ag
58:49
did
58:49
the
58:49
body
58:49
work
58:50
for
58:50
it.
58:50
He's
58:50
actually
58:51
one
58:51
of
58:51
James
58:51
God,
58:51
Han's
58:52
best
58:52
friends,
58:52
so
58:52
they've
58:53
gone
58:53
back,
58:53
like,
58:54
for
58:54
years.
58:54
And
58:54
so
58:55
he
58:55
put
58:55
him
58:55
in
58:55
the
58:55
Guardians
58:56
movies.
58:56
He
58:56
put
58:57
him
58:57
in
58:58
and
58:58
then,
58:58
yeah,
58:58
he
58:58
had
58:59
him
58:59
play
58:59
Economos
59:00
and,
59:01
you
59:02
know,
59:02
the.
59:02
The
59:03
physicality
59:03
of
59:04
King
59:04
Shark
59:04
in
59:04
the
59:05
Suicide
59:05
Squad.
59:05
But
59:06
yeah.
59:06
Yeah.
59:07
Awesome.
59:08
Well,
59:08
I
59:08
know
59:09
we
59:09
could
59:09
go
59:09
on
59:09
and
59:09
on
59:10
about,
59:10
but
59:10
I
59:11
would
59:11
say.
59:11
So
59:12
just
59:12
wrapping
59:13
up
59:13
here.
59:14
Do
59:14
you
59:15
all
59:15
have
59:15
any
59:16
favorite
59:16
moments
59:17
from
59:17
this
59:17
season
59:19
and
59:19
anything
59:19
in
59:19
particular
59:20
that
59:20
you're
59:20
well.
59:20
Oh,
59:21
actually,
59:21
sorry,
59:21
before
59:22
we
59:22
get
59:22
back,
59:22
let's
59:22
go
59:23
on
59:23
and
59:23
talk
59:23
about
59:24
Rick
59:24
Flag
59:24
for
59:24
a
59:24
minute
59:25
because
59:25
I
59:25
know
59:26
he
59:26
probably
59:26
does
59:26
have
59:27
a,
59:27
you
59:27
know.
59:28
Well,
59:29
Christian,
59:29
go
59:29
ahead
59:29
and
59:30
you
59:30
can
59:30
start
59:30
here
59:30
because
59:31
I'm
59:31
curious
59:31
for
59:31
your
59:31
thoughts.
59:32
Yeah.
59:34
So
59:34
obviously,
59:35
he's
59:35
dealing
59:35
with
59:36
grief
59:36
and
59:37
anger
59:38
and,
59:38
you
59:38
know,
59:38
the
59:39
loss
59:39
of
59:39
his
59:39
son
59:39
Peacemaker
59:40
is
59:40
directly
59:40
responsible
59:41
for
59:41
that.
59:41
I
59:42
get
59:42
it,
59:43
but
59:43
I'm
59:43
not
59:43
big
59:44
on
59:45
the
59:45
arc
59:45
that
59:45
Gun
59:46
gives
59:46
him,
59:47
you
59:47
know,
59:47
especially
59:47
after
59:48
having
59:48
seen
59:48
Creature
59:49
Commandos
59:50
and,
59:51
you
59:51
know,
59:51
watching,
59:52
you
59:52
know,
59:52
what
59:53
he
59:53
does
59:53
there.
59:53
It's
59:54
not
59:54
like
59:54
he's
59:54
moved
59:54
past
59:55
the
59:55
grief
59:56
to
59:56
the
59:56
extent
59:56
that
59:57
he's
59:57
moved
59:57
on,
59:58
but,
59:58
like,
59:58
there
59:59
was
59:59
something
59:59
there.
1:00:00
There's
1:00:00
a
1:00:01
heroicness
1:00:02
to
1:00:02
him,
1:00:02
despite
1:00:04
certain
1:00:04
aspects
1:00:04
of
1:00:04
who
1:00:05
he
1:00:05
is
1:00:05
and
1:00:05
the
1:00:05
bad
1:00:06
work
1:00:06
that
1:00:06
he
1:00:06
does.
1:00:07
And
1:00:08
I
1:00:08
think
1:00:08
we
1:00:08
kind
1:00:08
of
1:00:08
lose
1:00:09
that
1:00:09
thread
1:00:09
here
1:00:09
to
1:00:09
where
1:00:10
he
1:00:10
becomes
1:00:10
solo
1:00:11
focused
1:00:12
on
1:00:12
revenge,
1:00:13
and
1:00:14
that
1:00:14
leads
1:00:14
him
1:00:14
to
1:00:14
do
1:00:15
things
1:00:15
I
1:00:15
don't
1:00:15
think
1:00:15
he
1:00:15
would
1:00:16
do
1:00:16
as
1:00:16
far
1:00:16
as
1:00:16
the
1:00:16
Salvation
1:00:17
Project
1:00:17
is
1:00:17
concerned.
1:00:19
Of
1:00:19
course,
1:00:20
calling
1:00:20
to
1:00:20
the
1:00:21
comic
1:00:21
run
1:00:22
where
1:00:22
we
1:00:23
send
1:00:23
all
1:00:23
of
1:00:23
our
1:00:24
villains
1:00:24
of
1:00:25
the
1:00:25
DC
1:00:25
universe
1:00:25
to
1:00:26
this
1:00:26
one
1:00:26
planet
1:00:27
and
1:00:28
some
1:00:28
surprising
1:00:28
things
1:00:28
to
1:00:29
learn.
1:00:29
I
1:00:29
don't
1:00:29
know
1:00:29
if
1:00:29
we
1:00:29
want
1:00:29
to
1:00:29
focus
1:00:30
on
1:00:30
the
1:00:30
revelations
1:00:30
in
1:00:31
the
1:00:31
comic
1:00:31
because
1:00:31
they
1:00:31
haven't
1:00:31
really
1:00:32
spoken
1:00:32
about
1:00:32
it
1:00:32
here.
1:00:33
But
1:00:34
keeping
1:00:34
the
1:00:34
Flag,
1:00:35
I.
1:00:36
I
1:00:36
don't
1:00:36
see
1:00:36
it
1:00:37
that
1:00:37
I
1:00:37
don't
1:00:37
feel
1:00:37
like
1:00:38
it's
1:00:38
earned.
1:00:38
I
1:00:39
don't
1:00:39
know
1:00:39
how
1:00:39
you
1:00:39
feel
1:00:39
about
1:00:39
it.
1:00:41
Yeah,
1:00:41
I
1:00:41
have
1:00:41
mixed
1:00:41
feelings
1:00:42
about
1:00:42
it.
1:00:42
I
1:00:42
mean,
1:00:42
I
1:00:42
think
1:00:43
like
1:00:43
in
1:00:43
Creature
1:00:43
Commandos,
1:00:44
I
1:00:44
need
1:00:44
to
1:00:45
give
1:00:45
Creature
1:00:45
Commandos
1:00:46
a
1:00:46
re
1:00:46
watch
1:00:46
because
1:00:47
I
1:00:47
mean,
1:00:47
I
1:00:47
watched
1:00:47
it
1:00:47
last
1:00:48
year,
1:00:48
but
1:00:48
that
1:00:48
already
1:00:48
feels
1:00:49
like
1:00:49
maybe
1:00:49
because
1:00:49
anything
1:00:50
pre2025
1:00:51
feels
1:00:51
like
1:00:51
ages
1:00:52
ago.
1:00:52
But,
1:00:53
but,
1:00:54
you
1:00:54
know,
1:00:54
but
1:00:54
he
1:00:54
is
1:00:55
like,
1:00:55
I,
1:00:55
I
1:00:55
wouldn't
1:00:55
call
1:00:56
him
1:00:56
a
1:00:56
full
1:00:56
on
1:00:56
hero
1:00:57
in
1:00:57
that.
1:00:57
It's
1:00:57
more
1:00:58
and
1:00:58
there,
1:00:58
but
1:00:58
he's
1:00:58
still
1:00:59
more
1:00:59
heroic,
1:01:00
not,
1:01:00
you
1:01:00
know,
1:01:00
full
1:01:00
on
1:01:01
villainous.
1:01:01
And
1:01:01
he
1:01:01
doesn't
1:01:02
seem
1:01:02
to
1:01:02
focus
1:01:02
on
1:01:03
the
1:01:03
vengeance
1:01:04
as
1:01:05
much.
1:01:05
And
1:01:05
then
1:01:06
in
1:01:06
Superman,
1:01:07
I
1:01:07
think
1:01:07
he's
1:01:08
dealing
1:01:08
with
1:01:08
the
1:01:08
conflict
1:01:09
of,
1:01:10
okay,
1:01:10
he's
1:01:11
in
1:01:11
a
1:01:11
position
1:01:11
of
1:01:11
authority,
1:01:12
he's
1:01:13
trying
1:01:13
to
1:01:14
do
1:01:14
what's
1:01:14
best
1:01:14
for
1:01:15
humanity.
1:01:16
And
1:01:16
by
1:01:16
the
1:01:17
end
1:01:17
it's
1:01:17
like,
1:01:18
okay,
1:01:18
on
1:01:18
the
1:01:19
one
1:01:19
hand,
1:01:19
superheroes
1:01:20
saved
1:01:21
everything,
1:01:21
but
1:01:22
also,
1:01:22
does
1:01:23
that
1:01:23
grant
1:01:23
them
1:01:24
limitless
1:01:24
power?
1:01:24
And
1:01:25
he's
1:01:25
thinking
1:01:25
in
1:01:25
the
1:01:26
back
1:01:26
of
1:01:26
his
1:01:26
mind,
1:01:26
like,
1:01:27
oh,
1:01:27
what
1:01:27
could
1:01:27
the
1:01:28
ramifications
1:01:28
of
1:01:29
this
1:01:29
be?
1:01:29
And
1:01:29
does
1:01:30
that
1:01:30
inform
1:01:31
who
1:01:31
he
1:01:32
is
1:01:32
in
1:01:32
this
1:01:32
season?
1:01:33
I
1:01:33
do
1:01:33
agree
1:01:33
that
1:01:34
he
1:01:34
was
1:01:35
very
1:01:36
revenge
1:01:36
consumed
1:01:37
in
1:01:37
this
1:01:37
season,
1:01:38
but
1:01:39
as
1:01:39
I
1:01:39
don't
1:01:39
think
1:01:40
that
1:01:40
that
1:01:40
was
1:01:40
the
1:01:41
only
1:01:41
motivating
1:01:41
factor
1:01:42
for
1:01:43
him
1:01:43
authorizing
1:01:44
salvation.
1:01:44
Again,
1:01:45
I
1:01:45
think
1:01:45
it
1:01:45
is
1:01:46
in
1:01:46
his
1:01:47
mind
1:01:48
he
1:01:48
sees
1:01:48
himself
1:01:49
as
1:01:49
the
1:01:49
hero
1:01:50
here.
1:01:50
And
1:01:50
despite
1:01:51
his
1:01:52
dealings
1:01:52
with
1:01:53
metahumans
1:01:54
and
1:01:54
seeing
1:01:54
some
1:01:54
of
1:01:55
the
1:01:55
good
1:01:55
they
1:01:55
do,
1:01:55
I
1:01:55
think
1:01:56
ultimately
1:01:56
he's
1:01:57
just
1:01:57
trying
1:01:57
to,
1:01:58
okay,
1:01:58
I'm
1:01:58
in
1:01:59
charge
1:01:59
of,
1:02:00
of,
1:02:00
you
1:02:00
know,
1:02:00
all
1:02:01
I
1:02:01
have
1:02:01
all
1:02:01
this
1:02:02
power.
1:02:02
I'm,
1:02:03
you
1:02:03
know,
1:02:03
tasked
1:02:04
with
1:02:04
defending
1:02:06
government
1:02:06
and
1:02:06
humanity
1:02:07
and,
1:02:08
you
1:02:08
know,
1:02:08
making
1:02:09
sure
1:02:09
that
1:02:10
metahumans
1:02:11
don't
1:02:11
run
1:02:12
reckless.
1:02:13
Obviously
1:02:13
I
1:02:13
don't
1:02:14
agree
1:02:14
with
1:02:14
him,
1:02:14
but.
1:02:15
But
1:02:15
I'm
1:02:15
wondering
1:02:16
if
1:02:16
that's
1:02:16
kind
1:02:16
of
1:02:16
his
1:02:17
mindset.
1:02:18
So
1:02:18
I'm
1:02:18
a
1:02:18
little,
1:02:19
I
1:02:19
mean,
1:02:19
it
1:02:20
just
1:02:20
feels,
1:02:20
it
1:02:21
does
1:02:21
feel
1:02:21
like
1:02:22
a
1:02:22
departure
1:02:23
from
1:02:23
who
1:02:23
he
1:02:23
is
1:02:24
in
1:02:25
terms
1:02:25
of
1:02:25
the
1:02:25
incarnations
1:02:26
of
1:02:26
him
1:02:26
we
1:02:27
saw
1:02:27
previously.
1:02:29
But
1:02:29
I'm
1:02:29
hoping
1:02:29
that
1:02:30
will
1:02:30
be
1:02:30
explored
1:02:30
more.
1:02:31
And
1:02:31
the,
1:02:32
and
1:02:32
yeah,
1:02:32
I
1:02:32
think
1:02:33
the.
1:02:33
I
1:02:33
understand
1:02:34
why
1:02:35
the
1:02:35
revenge
1:02:36
arc
1:02:36
was
1:02:36
crucial
1:02:37
to
1:02:37
this
1:02:37
season
1:02:38
and
1:02:38
it
1:02:38
fit
1:02:39
really
1:02:39
well.
1:02:39
But
1:02:40
at
1:02:40
the
1:02:40
same
1:02:40
time
1:02:41
it's
1:02:41
like,
1:02:41
dude,
1:02:42
okay,
1:02:42
we
1:02:43
get
1:02:43
it.
1:02:43
But
1:02:44
also,
1:02:45
yeah,
1:02:45
like,
1:02:46
I
1:02:46
mean,
1:02:47
your
1:02:47
son
1:02:47
knew
1:02:48
the,
1:02:49
the
1:02:49
sacrifices
1:02:50
he
1:02:50
would
1:02:50
have
1:02:50
to
1:02:51
make
1:02:51
and
1:02:51
that
1:02:52
he's
1:02:52
dealing.
1:02:52
I
1:02:53
mean,
1:02:53
he
1:02:53
was
1:02:53
working
1:02:53
with
1:02:54
Task
1:02:54
Force
1:02:54
X
1:02:55
like
1:02:55
there
1:02:55
was
1:02:56
anything
1:02:56
could
1:02:56
have
1:02:56
happened
1:02:57
at
1:02:57
any
1:02:57
moment.
1:02:57
And
1:02:58
so,
1:02:58
you
1:02:59
know,
1:02:59
I
1:02:59
think
1:02:59
there
1:02:59
is
1:03:00
that,
1:03:00
like
1:03:00
revenge
1:03:01
blinds
1:03:01
him
1:03:02
and
1:03:02
it
1:03:02
got
1:03:03
to
1:03:03
be
1:03:03
a
1:03:03
little
1:03:03
too
1:03:04
much.
1:03:05
So
1:03:05
I've
1:03:05
got
1:03:05
a
1:03:06
half
1:03:06
and
1:03:06
half
1:03:06
there.
1:03:08
Yeah,
1:03:08
he.
1:03:09
The.
1:03:11
I
1:03:11
kind
1:03:11
of
1:03:11
agree
1:03:12
with
1:03:12
what
1:03:12
you
1:03:12
guys
1:03:12
are
1:03:12
saying
1:03:13
that
1:03:13
the
1:03:13
character
1:03:14
took
1:03:14
a
1:03:14
turn
1:03:14
and
1:03:15
he
1:03:15
was.
1:03:16
I,
1:03:17
I
1:03:17
got
1:03:18
the
1:03:18
feeling
1:03:18
that
1:03:19
like,
1:03:20
you
1:03:20
know,
1:03:20
when
1:03:20
you
1:03:20
do
1:03:21
a
1:03:21
Project
1:03:22
at
1:03:22
work
1:03:22
or
1:03:22
something.
1:03:24
And
1:03:24
you
1:03:24
have
1:03:24
different
1:03:25
groups
1:03:25
and
1:03:25
there's
1:03:26
another
1:03:26
group
1:03:27
where
1:03:27
the
1:03:28
leader
1:03:28
clearly
1:03:28
is
1:03:28
not
1:03:29
doing
1:03:29
anything
1:03:29
and
1:03:29
he's
1:03:30
letting
1:03:31
everyone
1:03:31
else
1:03:31
do
1:03:32
everything.
1:03:32
That's,
1:03:33
that's
1:03:34
the
1:03:34
vibe
1:03:34
I
1:03:34
got
1:03:34
from
1:03:35
him
1:03:36
that
1:03:36
he
1:03:36
was
1:03:37
just
1:03:37
like
1:03:38
so,
1:03:39
so
1:03:39
bent
1:03:40
on
1:03:41
finishing
1:03:41
it.
1:03:42
He
1:03:42
just
1:03:42
let
1:03:42
every,
1:03:43
like
1:03:43
the
1:03:44
little
1:03:44
minions
1:03:45
just
1:03:45
work
1:03:46
on
1:03:46
the
1:03:46
projects
1:03:47
for
1:03:47
him,
1:03:47
which
1:03:48
weird,
1:03:49
but
1:03:49
all
1:03:49
right.
1:03:50
It
1:03:50
will
1:03:50
be
1:03:50
really
1:03:50
interesting
1:03:51
to
1:03:51
see
1:03:51
what
1:03:52
they
1:03:52
do
1:03:52
with
1:03:52
him
1:03:52
in
1:03:53
Superman
1:03:53
2
1:03:55
Man
1:03:55
of
1:03:55
Tomorrow.
1:03:55
And
1:03:57
yeah,
1:03:57
I
1:03:57
mean,
1:03:57
I
1:03:58
like
1:03:58
it.
1:03:58
And
1:03:58
especially
1:03:59
now
1:03:59
that,
1:03:59
okay,
1:04:00
he
1:04:00
got
1:04:00
his
1:04:01
vengeance,
1:04:01
you
1:04:02
know,
1:04:02
where
1:04:02
will
1:04:03
his
1:04:03
focus
1:04:03
turn
1:04:03
now?
1:04:04
But
1:04:04
yeah,
1:04:05
making
1:04:05
him
1:04:06
Amanda
1:04:07
Waller
1:04:07
essentially
1:04:08
here
1:04:09
it's
1:04:09
a
1:04:09
turn,
1:04:10
but.
1:04:11
But
1:04:11
I'm
1:04:11
interested
1:04:12
in
1:04:12
seeing
1:04:12
how
1:04:12
it
1:04:12
plays
1:04:13
out.
1:04:13
And
1:04:13
I
1:04:13
mean,
1:04:13
hey,
1:04:14
because
1:04:14
of
1:04:14
his
1:04:15
turn,
1:04:15
we
1:04:15
got
1:04:15
a
1:04:15
Lex
1:04:15
Luthor
1:04:16
cameo
1:04:16
in
1:04:17
the
1:04:17
season.
1:04:17
And
1:04:17
that
1:04:17
was
1:04:18
one
1:04:18
of
1:04:18
my
1:04:18
favorite
1:04:18
moments.
1:04:19
So,
1:04:19
you
1:04:19
know.
1:04:19
Yeah,
1:04:20
it
1:04:20
worked.
1:04:21
So
1:04:21
do
1:04:21
we
1:04:21
know
1:04:22
how
1:04:23
he
1:04:23
pulled
1:04:23
a
1:04:24
reverse
1:04:25
James
1:04:25
Gunn
1:04:26
with
1:04:26
his
1:04:26
hair
1:04:27
from
1:04:27
a
1:04:27
creature
1:04:28
Commandos.
1:04:28
Because
1:04:28
he's
1:04:29
white
1:04:29
haired.
1:04:30
There.
1:04:30
That's
1:04:30
it.
1:04:30
So
1:04:31
Gun
1:04:31
talks
1:04:32
about
1:04:32
that.
1:04:32
He's
1:04:33
like,
1:04:33
yeah,
1:04:34
Frank
1:04:34
Grillo,
1:04:35
like,
1:04:35
it
1:04:35
would.
1:04:35
No,
1:04:36
it
1:04:36
was
1:04:36
a
1:04:36
scheduling
1:04:36
conflict
1:04:37
where
1:04:37
it
1:04:37
was
1:04:37
like
1:04:38
he
1:04:38
was
1:04:39
doing
1:04:39
Frank
1:04:39
Gerlo
1:04:40
was
1:04:40
doing
1:04:40
Tulsa
1:04:41
King
1:04:41
and
1:04:41
he
1:04:42
couldn't
1:04:42
dye
1:04:42
his
1:04:42
hair
1:04:42
for
1:04:43
that.
1:04:43
And
1:04:44
James
1:04:44
Gunn
1:04:44
was
1:04:45
kind
1:04:45
of
1:04:45
pissed
1:04:45
at
1:04:45
him
1:04:45
for
1:04:45
that
1:04:46
because
1:04:46
like
1:04:46
he
1:04:47
was
1:04:47
like
1:04:47
the
1:04:47
first
1:04:47
act
1:04:48
actor
1:04:48
he
1:04:48
cast
1:04:49
in
1:04:49
the
1:04:49
dcu.
1:04:50
And
1:04:50
he's
1:04:50
like,
1:04:50
yes,
1:04:51
Grillo
1:04:51
doing
1:04:51
a
1:04:52
million
1:04:52
projects
1:04:52
and
1:04:52
stuff,
1:04:53
but
1:04:53
they're,
1:04:53
you
1:04:53
know,
1:04:54
they
1:04:54
have
1:04:54
a
1:04:54
friendly
1:04:54
banter
1:04:55
with
1:04:55
each
1:04:55
other,
1:04:55
but
1:04:56
that
1:04:56
it
1:04:56
was,
1:04:56
it
1:04:56
was
1:04:57
only
1:04:57
that.
1:04:57
So
1:04:58
he
1:04:58
would
1:04:58
have
1:04:58
gone.
1:04:59
Would
1:04:59
have
1:04:59
loved
1:04:59
him
1:05:00
to
1:05:00
have
1:05:00
the
1:05:00
white
1:05:00
hair
1:05:01
here,
1:05:01
but
1:05:01
that
1:05:02
was
1:05:02
the
1:05:02
only
1:05:02
reasoning.
1:05:03
Okay.
1:05:03
Okay.
1:05:04
Yeah,
1:05:04
yeah.
1:05:05
But
1:05:05
no,
1:05:06
with
1:05:06
Lex
1:05:07
Luthor
1:05:07
was,
1:05:07
was
1:05:08
a
1:05:08
fun
1:05:09
addition
1:05:09
to
1:05:10
it.
1:05:10
And
1:05:11
the
1:05:11
fact
1:05:11
that
1:05:11
he
1:05:12
had
1:05:12
his,
1:05:12
that
1:05:12
he
1:05:13
had
1:05:13
his
1:05:13
cane
1:05:14
from,
1:05:15
from
1:05:16
the
1:05:16
damage
1:05:17
from
1:05:18
Crypto.
1:05:19
Yeah.
1:05:20
So
1:05:20
it
1:05:20
was
1:05:21
a
1:05:21
nice
1:05:21
touch.
1:05:21
Yeah.
1:05:22
And
1:05:22
it's
1:05:22
really
1:05:22
cool
1:05:23
too
1:05:23
because
1:05:23
when
1:05:23
they
1:05:23
filmed
1:05:24
that
1:05:24
they
1:05:24
were
1:05:25
filming
1:05:25
Superman,
1:05:25
like,
1:05:26
because
1:05:26
I
1:05:26
mean,
1:05:26
James
1:05:27
Gunn
1:05:27
wrote
1:05:27
Creature
1:05:28
Commandos
1:05:29
Peacemaker
1:05:29
Season
1:05:29
2,
1:05:30
Superman
1:05:30
all
1:05:31
back
1:05:31
to
1:05:31
back,
1:05:31
and
1:05:32
they
1:05:32
had
1:05:32
to
1:05:32
coordinate
1:05:32
it.
1:05:33
And
1:05:33
so
1:05:33
for
1:05:33
Nicholas
1:05:34
Holt
1:05:34
to
1:05:34
come
1:05:35
in
1:05:35
and
1:05:35
play
1:05:36
and
1:05:37
perform
1:05:38
that
1:05:38
scene,
1:05:38
knowing
1:05:39
that
1:05:40
he
1:05:40
hadn't
1:05:40
even
1:05:40
shot
1:05:41
everything
1:05:41
in
1:05:42
Superman
1:05:42
yet,
1:05:42
but
1:05:43
he
1:05:43
had
1:05:43
to
1:05:44
portray
1:05:44
the
1:05:45
version
1:05:45
of
1:05:45
the
1:05:45
character
1:05:46
that
1:05:46
was
1:05:47
after
1:05:47
the
1:05:47
events
1:05:48
of
1:05:48
Superman
1:05:48
and
1:05:48
get
1:05:48
into
1:05:49
that
1:05:49
mindset.
1:05:50
And
1:05:50
he
1:05:50
did
1:05:50
it
1:05:51
spectacularly.
1:05:52
So
1:05:53
I
1:05:53
just,
1:05:53
I
1:05:53
really
1:05:53
commend,
1:05:54
you
1:05:54
know,
1:05:54
the
1:05:55
vision
1:05:56
behind
1:05:56
that,
1:05:57
the,
1:05:57
the
1:05:57
performance
1:05:58
and
1:05:58
the
1:05:58
writing.
1:05:59
Awesome.
1:06:00
Well,
1:06:00
guys,
1:06:00
before
1:06:01
we
1:06:01
wrap
1:06:01
up.
1:06:01
Yeah.
1:06:02
So
1:06:02
let's
1:06:02
say
1:06:02
what
1:06:03
are,
1:06:03
what
1:06:03
were
1:06:04
maybe
1:06:04
as
1:06:04
a
1:06:04
favorite
1:06:05
moment,
1:06:05
favorite
1:06:06
scene
1:06:06
from
1:06:07
this
1:06:07
season.
1:06:08
And
1:06:09
what
1:06:09
are
1:06:09
you
1:06:09
most
1:06:10
looking
1:06:10
forward
1:06:10
to
1:06:11
about
1:06:11
just
1:06:12
D.C.
1:06:12
going
1:06:12
forward?
1:06:13
I
1:06:14
can
1:06:14
start
1:06:14
with
1:06:14
this.
1:06:15
I
1:06:15
really.
1:06:16
I
1:06:16
think
1:06:17
that
1:06:17
the
1:06:18
Augie
1:06:19
monologue
1:06:20
in
1:06:21
episode
1:06:22
seven
1:06:22
that
1:06:22
I
1:06:22
was
1:06:23
talking
1:06:23
about
1:06:23
earlier
1:06:24
was,
1:06:24
for
1:06:24
me,
1:06:24
the
1:06:25
most
1:06:25
surprising
1:06:26
and
1:06:26
also,
1:06:27
I
1:06:27
think,
1:06:27
some
1:06:27
of
1:06:27
the
1:06:28
most
1:06:28
clever
1:06:28
writing
1:06:28
in
1:06:29
the
1:06:29
end,
1:06:29
throughout
1:06:30
the
1:06:30
season,
1:06:31
because,
1:06:31
again,
1:06:32
you
1:06:32
know,
1:06:32
I
1:06:33
was
1:06:33
fully
1:06:33
expecting
1:06:34
Augie
1:06:35
in
1:06:35
this
1:06:35
universe
1:06:36
to
1:06:36
be,
1:06:36
oh,
1:06:36
he's
1:06:37
happy
1:06:37
because,
1:06:37
yeah,
1:06:38
he's
1:06:38
living
1:06:38
in,
1:06:39
you
1:06:39
know,
1:06:40
white
1:06:40
supremacy
1:06:41
Haven.
1:06:42
But
1:06:42
it
1:06:42
was
1:06:42
actually,
1:06:43
no,
1:06:43
we
1:06:43
already
1:06:44
got
1:06:44
the
1:06:44
monster
1:06:45
version
1:06:45
of
1:06:45
him
1:06:45
in
1:06:45
season
1:06:46
one.
1:06:46
This
1:06:46
is
1:06:47
a
1:06:47
more
1:06:48
sympathetic
1:06:48
version
1:06:49
of
1:06:49
the
1:06:49
character
1:06:50
that
1:06:50
is,
1:06:51
you
1:06:51
know,
1:06:51
caught
1:06:51
in
1:06:52
a
1:06:52
horrible
1:06:53
world,
1:06:53
but
1:06:53
he
1:06:54
doesn't
1:06:54
actually
1:06:54
agree
1:06:55
with
1:06:55
all
1:06:55
that.
1:06:55
And
1:06:55
so
1:06:56
that
1:06:56
was
1:06:56
an.
1:06:56
And
1:06:57
also
1:06:57
to
1:06:58
have
1:06:58
that
1:06:59
hope
1:06:59
there
1:06:59
for
1:06:59
Chris
1:07:00
and
1:07:00
then
1:07:00
for
1:07:00
it
1:07:00
to
1:07:00
immediately
1:07:01
be
1:07:02
thwarted
1:07:03
when
1:07:03
Augie
1:07:03
is
1:07:03
killed
1:07:04
right
1:07:04
after
1:07:04
that
1:07:04
monologue,
1:07:05
I'm
1:07:05
like,
1:07:05
yes,
1:07:06
Gun.
1:07:06
Continuing
1:07:07
the
1:07:07
tradition
1:07:07
of
1:07:08
breaking
1:07:08
our
1:07:09
hearts
1:07:09
and,
1:07:09
you
1:07:09
know,
1:07:09
and.
1:07:10
And
1:07:10
then
1:07:11
setting
1:07:11
up
1:07:11
the
1:07:11
brother
1:07:12
as
1:07:12
a
1:07:12
future
1:07:13
villain.
1:07:13
So,
1:07:14
yes.
1:07:15
Yeah,
1:07:15
yeah.
1:07:16
So
1:07:16
all
1:07:17
of
1:07:17
that,
1:07:17
I
1:07:18
think
1:07:18
as
1:07:18
far
1:07:18
as
1:07:18
what
1:07:18
I'm
1:07:19
looking
1:07:19
forward
1:07:19
to
1:07:19
the
1:07:20
most,
1:07:20
I
1:07:20
mean,
1:07:20
there's
1:07:21
a
1:07:21
lot.
1:07:21
I
1:07:21
mean,
1:07:21
I.
1:07:21
I
1:07:22
know
1:07:22
I'm
1:07:22
just
1:07:22
like,
1:07:22
you
1:07:22
know,
1:07:23
head
1:07:23
over
1:07:23
heels
1:07:23
for
1:07:24
DC
1:07:24
Studios
1:07:25
right
1:07:25
now,
1:07:25
but
1:07:26
I'm
1:07:27
really
1:07:27
interested
1:07:28
in
1:07:28
seeing
1:07:29
how.
1:07:31
I
1:07:31
think
1:07:31
even
1:07:31
more.
1:07:32
More
1:07:32
so
1:07:32
Checkmate
1:07:33
even
1:07:33
than
1:07:33
Salvation.
1:07:34
I
1:07:34
think
1:07:34
Salvation
1:07:35
is
1:07:35
a
1:07:35
fascinating
1:07:35
concept,
1:07:36
and
1:07:36
I
1:07:36
do
1:07:36
want
1:07:37
to
1:07:37
see
1:07:37
how
1:07:37
that
1:07:37
plays
1:07:38
out.
1:07:38
But
1:07:38
I'm
1:07:38
actually
1:07:39
even
1:07:39
more
1:07:39
interested
1:07:39
in
1:07:40
what
1:07:40
they
1:07:40
do
1:07:40
with
1:07:41
Checkmate
1:07:42
because
1:07:42
now
1:07:42
they
1:07:43
have
1:07:43
the
1:07:43
11th
1:07:43
street
1:07:44
kids
1:07:44
running
1:07:45
things
1:07:45
the
1:07:45
way
1:07:46
they
1:07:46
want
1:07:46
and
1:07:47
try.
1:07:47
They're
1:07:47
gonna
1:07:47
try
1:07:48
to
1:07:48
do
1:07:48
some
1:07:48
good
1:07:48
and,
1:07:49
you
1:07:49
know,
1:07:49
really
1:07:49
fight
1:07:50
the
1:07:50
system
1:07:50
and,
1:07:50
you
1:07:51
know,
1:07:51
and
1:07:51
to
1:07:51
be
1:07:51
able.
1:07:52
And
1:07:52
to
1:07:52
now
1:07:52
have
1:07:52
to
1:07:53
do
1:07:53
it
1:07:53
without
1:07:53
Chris,
1:07:54
there's.
1:07:55
Presents
1:07:56
a
1:07:56
new
1:07:56
dilemma.
1:07:57
But
1:07:57
I
1:07:57
really
1:07:58
am
1:07:58
fascinated
1:07:59
to
1:07:59
see
1:07:59
how
1:08:00
that
1:08:00
storyline
1:08:00
plays
1:08:01
out,
1:08:01
be
1:08:01
it
1:08:01
in
1:08:02
Superman
1:08:02
or
1:08:03
another
1:08:03
show
1:08:03
or
1:08:04
movie,
1:08:04
wherever
1:08:05
they
1:08:05
take
1:08:06
that
1:08:06
team.
1:08:06
I
1:08:07
am.
1:08:07
I'm
1:08:08
really
1:08:08
excited
1:08:08
for
1:08:09
that.
1:08:10
Evan,
1:08:10
what
1:08:11
about
1:08:11
you?
1:08:11
Do
1:08:11
you
1:08:11
have,
1:08:12
like,
1:08:12
either
1:08:12
a
1:08:12
favorite
1:08:13
scene
1:08:13
or
1:08:13
moment
1:08:13
from
1:08:13
the
1:08:14
season
1:08:14
and
1:08:14
something
1:08:15
you're
1:08:15
looking
1:08:15
forward
1:08:15
to?
1:08:16
For
1:08:17
sure?
1:08:17
Yeah,
1:08:18
my
1:08:18
favorite
1:08:19
scene
1:08:20
has
1:08:20
to
1:08:20
be
1:08:21
the
1:08:21
scene.
1:08:22
The
1:08:22
moment
1:08:23
where
1:08:23
they
1:08:24
have.
1:08:25
That
1:08:28
they
1:08:28
have
1:08:29
a.
1:08:29
What's
1:08:30
it
1:08:30
called?
1:08:30
But
1:08:31
the
1:08:31
moment
1:08:31
with.
1:08:32
With
1:08:32
Adebayo
1:08:34
and
1:08:34
Chris
1:08:36
trying
1:08:36
to
1:08:37
bring
1:08:37
him
1:08:37
back
1:08:38
from.
1:08:38
From
1:08:39
his.
1:08:39
From
1:08:40
his
1:08:40
hole
1:08:40
that
1:08:41
he's
1:08:41
in
1:08:41
and
1:08:42
from
1:08:42
his
1:08:42
state
1:08:43
and
1:08:43
just
1:08:44
her
1:08:44
speech
1:08:44
about,
1:08:45
like,
1:08:45
you're.
1:08:46
You're
1:08:46
so
1:08:47
dumb
1:08:47
and
1:08:47
you're
1:08:47
so
1:08:48
big,
1:08:49
but
1:08:49
you
1:08:49
still
1:08:49
make
1:08:49
me
1:08:50
feel
1:08:50
seen.
1:08:50
And
1:08:51
you
1:08:51
were
1:08:51
such
1:08:52
a
1:08:52
great
1:08:52
leader
1:08:52
Just,
1:08:53
it
1:08:53
really
1:08:54
got
1:08:54
me.
1:08:54
It
1:08:55
really
1:08:55
got
1:08:55
me.
1:08:56
Yeah.
1:08:56
And
1:08:57
that,
1:08:58
that
1:08:58
really
1:08:58
stood
1:08:59
out.
1:08:59
And
1:09:00
that
1:09:00
made
1:09:00
all
1:09:01
the
1:09:01
other
1:09:01
scenes
1:09:03
so
1:09:03
much
1:09:03
more
1:09:04
satisfying
1:09:05
because
1:09:06
we
1:09:07
know
1:09:07
where
1:09:07
they
1:09:07
came
1:09:08
from
1:09:08
and
1:09:09
how
1:09:09
she
1:09:10
brought
1:09:10
everyone
1:09:10
together.
1:09:11
And
1:09:12
the
1:09:12
music
1:09:12
videos
1:09:13
weren't
1:09:13
a
1:09:14
bad
1:09:14
touch.
1:09:14
I
1:09:14
like
1:09:14
the
1:09:14
music
1:09:15
videos.
1:09:15
It
1:09:15
was
1:09:15
fun.
1:09:17
Hey,
1:09:17
great
1:09:17
music.
1:09:18
Absolutely.
1:09:18
Yeah.
1:09:19
Christian,
1:09:20
what
1:09:20
about
1:09:20
you?
1:09:20
I,
1:09:21
I,
1:09:21
I'm
1:09:21
gonna
1:09:22
guess
1:09:22
your
1:09:22
favorite
1:09:22
scene
1:09:23
was
1:09:23
the
1:09:23
orgy.
1:09:25
Yes.
1:09:26
Every
1:09:26
day.
1:09:28
Yeah,
1:09:29
that
1:09:30
was
1:09:30
one
1:09:30
of
1:09:30
my
1:09:30
least
1:09:30
favorite
1:09:31
scenes.
1:09:33
I'm
1:09:33
actually
1:09:33
gonna
1:09:34
go
1:09:34
with
1:09:35
when
1:09:36
he
1:09:36
goes
1:09:36
to
1:09:36
Earth
1:09:36
X
1:09:37
and
1:09:38
he
1:09:39
deals
1:09:39
with
1:09:39
what
1:09:40
he
1:09:40
thinks
1:09:40
is
1:09:40
a,
1:09:41
a
1:09:41
terrorist
1:09:42
attack.
1:09:43
And
1:09:44
it's
1:09:45
a
1:09:45
great
1:09:45
action
1:09:46
scene.
1:09:46
You
1:09:46
see
1:09:46
how
1:09:47
tactical
1:09:47
he
1:09:47
is,
1:09:48
taking
1:09:48
down
1:09:49
people
1:09:49
he
1:09:49
knows.
1:09:50
He
1:09:50
doesn't
1:09:50
know
1:09:51
the
1:09:51
people,
1:09:51
but
1:09:51
he
1:09:51
knows
1:09:51
how
1:09:52
people
1:09:52
would
1:09:52
typically
1:09:53
go.
1:09:53
So
1:09:53
he's
1:09:53
kind
1:09:54
of
1:09:54
like
1:09:54
five
1:09:54
steps
1:09:54
ahead.
1:09:55
It's
1:09:55
a
1:09:55
wonderful
1:09:55
scene.
1:09:56
But
1:09:56
then
1:09:56
in
1:09:56
hindsight,
1:09:58
there
1:09:58
are
1:09:58
a
1:09:58
lot
1:09:58
of
1:09:59
questions
1:09:59
brought
1:09:59
up
1:09:59
there.
1:09:59
And
1:09:59
you
1:10:00
go,
1:10:00
wait
1:10:00
a
1:10:00
minute.
1:10:00
Oh,
1:10:01
he
1:10:01
was
1:10:02
killing
1:10:02
resistance
1:10:03
fighters,
1:10:04
who,
1:10:04
by
1:10:04
the
1:10:04
way,
1:10:04
were
1:10:05
also
1:10:05
targeting
1:10:06
civilians.
1:10:07
That,
1:10:08
how
1:10:08
does
1:10:08
that
1:10:08
work?
1:10:09
Whose
1:10:09
side
1:10:09
am
1:10:10
I
1:10:10
supposed
1:10:10
to
1:10:10
be
1:10:10
on
1:10:10
there?
1:10:11
There's
1:10:12
a
1:10:12
lot
1:10:12
of
1:10:12
good
1:10:12
questions
1:10:12
that
1:10:13
are
1:10:13
brought
1:10:13
up
1:10:13
is,
1:10:14
are
1:10:15
they
1:10:15
going
1:10:15
to
1:10:15
be
1:10:15
any
1:10:16
better
1:10:16
if
1:10:16
they
1:10:16
take
1:10:16
over
1:10:17
or
1:10:17
are
1:10:17
they
1:10:17
just
1:10:18
at
1:10:18
the
1:10:18
point
1:10:19
of
1:10:19
they've
1:10:20
been
1:10:20
so
1:10:20
broken
1:10:20
down
1:10:20
by
1:10:21
years
1:10:21
of
1:10:21
oppression
1:10:22
that
1:10:23
this
1:10:23
is
1:10:23
what
1:10:24
we
1:10:24
have
1:10:24
to
1:10:24
do.
1:10:24
This
1:10:25
is
1:10:25
the
1:10:25
only
1:10:25
they
1:10:25
understand
1:10:26
force,
1:10:26
so
1:10:26
we
1:10:26
have
1:10:27
to
1:10:27
respond
1:10:27
with
1:10:27
force.
1:10:27
And
1:10:28
then
1:10:29
Chris
1:10:29
having
1:10:29
to
1:10:29
go,
1:10:30
I'm
1:10:30
responsible
1:10:31
for
1:10:31
the
1:10:31
deaths
1:10:31
of
1:10:32
people
1:10:32
who
1:10:33
didn't
1:10:33
deserve
1:10:33
it.
1:10:34
What
1:10:34
am
1:10:34
I
1:10:34
supposed
1:10:35
to
1:10:35
do
1:10:35
with
1:10:35
that?
1:10:36
There's
1:10:36
a
1:10:36
lot
1:10:36
of
1:10:36
really
1:10:36
good
1:10:37
stuff
1:10:37
that
1:10:37
you
1:10:37
can
1:10:37
draw
1:10:38
from
1:10:38
that.
1:10:38
Or,
1:10:39
and
1:10:39
then
1:10:39
like
1:10:40
a
1:10:40
more
1:10:40
of
1:10:40
a
1:10:40
jokey
1:10:41
one,
1:10:41
but
1:10:42
when
1:10:42
Vigilante
1:10:43
meets
1:10:43
himself.
1:10:43
Yeah,
1:10:44
it's
1:10:44
a
1:10:44
fun
1:10:44
one.
1:10:47
I
1:10:48
love
1:10:48
myself.
1:10:48
I
1:10:49
can
1:10:49
only
1:10:49
imagine
1:10:50
I'd
1:10:50
be
1:10:50
worse
1:10:50
if
1:10:50
I
1:10:50
ever
1:10:51
met
1:10:51
me
1:10:51
from
1:10:51
another
1:10:52
reality.
1:10:55
I
1:10:55
deal
1:10:55
heavily
1:10:55
with
1:10:56
pride,
1:10:56
but
1:10:56
could
1:10:56
you
1:10:56
imagine
1:10:57
if
1:10:57
God
1:10:57
allowed
1:10:57
me
1:10:57
a
1:10:58
situation
1:10:58
where
1:10:58
I
1:10:59
got
1:10:59
to
1:10:59
meet
1:10:59
me?
1:11:00
I'd
1:11:00
have
1:11:00
to
1:11:00
learn
1:11:00
some
1:11:01
humility
1:11:01
really,
1:11:01
really
1:11:02
quickly,
1:11:03
but
1:11:04
it's
1:11:04
fun.
1:11:04
Yeah.
1:11:05
It
1:11:05
raises
1:11:05
some
1:11:05
questions.
1:11:06
How
1:11:06
does
1:11:06
Pokemon
1:11:07
exist
1:11:07
in
1:11:07
a
1:11:07
Nazi
1:11:08
controlled
1:11:08
world?
1:11:08
Yeah,
1:11:09
yeah.
1:11:09
Imperial
1:11:09
Japan
1:11:09
would
1:11:10
be
1:11:10
ally,
1:11:10
but
1:11:10
they
1:11:11
wouldn't
1:11:11
really
1:11:11
have
1:11:11
evolved
1:11:12
along
1:11:12
the
1:11:12
way
1:11:12
the
1:11:12
Pokemon
1:11:13
are
1:11:13
created.
1:11:13
Same
1:11:13
thing
1:11:14
with
1:11:14
Spider
1:11:14
Man.
1:11:14
It's
1:11:14
like
1:11:14
created
1:11:15
by
1:11:15
a
1:11:15
Jewish
1:11:15
guy.
1:11:16
Did
1:11:16
Stan
1:11:17
Lee
1:11:17
somehow
1:11:17
pretend
1:11:18
to
1:11:18
be
1:11:18
not
1:11:18
Jewish
1:11:19
when
1:11:19
they
1:11:19
took
1:11:19
over?
1:11:20
Yeah,
1:11:21
don't
1:11:22
worry
1:11:22
about
1:11:22
that.
1:11:22
It's,
1:11:23
it's
1:11:23
fun.
1:11:24
Christian,
1:11:25
if
1:11:25
I
1:11:26
you
1:11:26
met
1:11:26
an
1:11:26
alternate
1:11:27
version
1:11:27
of
1:11:27
yourself,
1:11:28
I
1:11:28
imagine
1:11:28
this
1:11:29
happening
1:11:29
of
1:11:29
like,
1:11:29
you're
1:11:30
all
1:11:30
you're
1:11:30
agreeing
1:11:30
on
1:11:31
Everything.
1:11:31
And
1:11:31
then
1:11:31
he
1:11:32
says,
1:11:32
oh,
1:11:32
the
1:11:33
Last
1:11:33
Jedi
1:11:33
is
1:11:33
my
1:11:33
favorite
1:11:34
movie.
1:11:34
And
1:11:34
I.
1:11:35
He's
1:11:35
got
1:11:35
to
1:11:35
die
1:11:36
to.
1:11:36
I
1:11:36
want
1:11:36
to
1:11:36
see
1:11:36
that
1:11:37
play
1:11:37
out.
1:11:37
Yeah.
1:11:38
Immersive
1:11:39
killing
1:11:39
at
1:11:39
that
1:11:39
point.
1:11:40
And
1:11:40
his
1:11:41
name
1:11:41
is
1:11:41
atheist.
1:11:44
Sorry,
1:11:44
that
1:11:44
was
1:11:45
bad.
1:11:48
It
1:11:48
would
1:11:48
be
1:11:48
entertaining
1:11:49
to
1:11:49
meet
1:11:49
alternate
1:11:50
version
1:11:50
of
1:11:50
self
1:11:50
just
1:11:51
to
1:11:51
see
1:11:52
what
1:11:53
would
1:11:53
the
1:11:53
similarities
1:11:53
and
1:11:54
differences
1:11:54
be.
1:11:55
But.
1:11:57
As
1:11:57
far
1:11:57
as
1:11:57
future
1:11:58
projects
1:11:59
other
1:11:59
than
1:11:59
Supergirl,
1:12:00
I
1:12:00
mean,
1:12:01
I
1:12:01
want
1:12:01
to
1:12:01
see
1:12:01
what
1:12:01
he
1:12:01
does
1:12:02
with
1:12:02
Batman.
1:12:03
I
1:12:03
mean,
1:12:04
he's
1:12:04
one
1:12:04
of
1:12:05
the
1:12:05
greatest
1:12:05
characters
1:12:06
of
1:12:06
all
1:12:06
time.
1:12:06
He's
1:12:07
been
1:12:07
interpreted
1:12:08
in
1:12:08
various
1:12:08
ways.
1:12:08
How
1:12:08
is
1:12:09
he
1:12:09
going
1:12:09
to
1:12:09
fit
1:12:09
into
1:12:09
the
1:12:09
dcu?
1:12:10
I
1:12:10
want
1:12:10
to
1:12:11
see
1:12:11
my
1:12:12
Batman.
1:12:13
I
1:12:14
mean,
1:12:14
I
1:12:14
know
1:12:14
the
1:12:15
pressure
1:12:15
is
1:12:15
on
1:12:15
there
1:12:16
and
1:12:16
it'll
1:12:17
happen
1:12:17
eventually
1:12:17
and
1:12:18
I'm
1:12:18
glad
1:12:18
they're.
1:12:19
He's
1:12:19
not
1:12:19
doing
1:12:20
anything
1:12:20
until
1:12:20
he's
1:12:21
happy
1:12:21
with
1:12:21
the
1:12:21
script
1:12:21
and
1:12:22
they're
1:12:22
good
1:12:22
to
1:12:23
go
1:12:23
there.
1:12:23
But.
1:12:23
Yeah,
1:12:23
the.
1:12:24
But
1:12:24
no
1:12:25
one
1:12:25
will
1:12:25
rest
1:12:25
until
1:12:26
we
1:12:26
know,
1:12:26
you
1:12:27
know,
1:12:27
who's
1:12:27
going
1:12:27
to
1:12:28
be
1:12:28
the
1:12:28
cast
1:12:28
and
1:12:29
you
1:12:29
know
1:12:29
when
1:12:29
that
1:12:30
movie
1:12:30
is
1:12:30
going
1:12:30
to
1:12:30
happen.
1:12:30
So
1:12:31
we
1:12:31
will
1:12:31
see.
1:12:31
Awesome,
1:12:32
guys.
1:12:32
Well,
1:12:32
this
1:12:32
has
1:12:33
been
1:12:33
great.
1:12:34
And
1:12:35
before
1:12:35
we
1:12:35
go,
1:12:37
do
1:12:37
you
1:12:37
guys
1:12:37
have
1:12:38
a
1:12:38
recommendation?
1:12:39
Be
1:12:39
it
1:12:39
something
1:12:40
we
1:12:40
talked
1:12:40
about
1:12:40
tonight
1:12:41
or
1:12:41
something
1:12:41
totally
1:12:42
different?
1:12:43
I
1:12:43
could
1:12:43
actually
1:12:43
start
1:12:44
because,
1:12:44
you
1:12:44
know,
1:12:45
this
1:12:45
is
1:12:45
not
1:12:45
the
1:12:46
first
1:12:46
time
1:12:47
that
1:12:47
a
1:12:47
live
1:12:48
action
1:12:50
series
1:12:51
has
1:12:51
dealt
1:12:51
with
1:12:52
Earth
1:12:52
X.
1:12:53
They
1:12:53
first
1:12:53
did
1:12:54
it
1:12:54
in
1:12:54
the
1:12:54
Arrowverse
1:12:56
the
1:12:56
years
1:12:56
ago
1:12:57
in
1:12:57
a
1:12:57
crossover
1:12:58
called
1:12:59
Crisis
1:12:59
on
1:12:59
Earth
1:12:59
X.
1:13:00
I
1:13:00
highly
1:13:01
recommend
1:13:01
that
1:13:01
one,
1:13:01
even
1:13:01
if
1:13:02
you've
1:13:02
never.
1:13:02
I
1:13:03
was
1:13:03
a
1:13:03
big
1:13:03
Arrowverse
1:13:04
fan
1:13:04
when
1:13:04
I
1:13:04
was
1:13:04
on.
1:13:05
But
1:13:05
even
1:13:05
if
1:13:05
you
1:13:06
never
1:13:06
delved
1:13:06
into
1:13:07
that
1:13:07
shows,
1:13:07
if
1:13:08
you
1:13:08
want
1:13:08
a
1:13:08
nice
1:13:08
standalone
1:13:09
crossover
1:13:10
event
1:13:10
like,
1:13:10
yes,
1:13:11
it
1:13:11
does
1:13:11
have
1:13:11
the
1:13:11
death
1:13:11
of
1:13:12
a
1:13:12
character
1:13:12
there,
1:13:13
but
1:13:13
you
1:13:13
can
1:13:14
kind
1:13:14
of
1:13:14
watch
1:13:14
that
1:13:14
as
1:13:15
a
1:13:15
movie.
1:13:15
It.
1:13:15
It
1:13:16
was
1:13:16
Arrow,
1:13:17
Flash,
1:13:17
Supergirl
1:13:17
and
1:13:17
Legends
1:13:18
of
1:13:18
Tomorrow.
1:13:19
Just
1:13:19
look
1:13:19
up
1:13:19
online
1:13:20
the
1:13:20
episodes
1:13:21
and.
1:13:21
And
1:13:21
watch
1:13:22
the
1:13:22
Crisis
1:13:23
on
1:13:23
Earth
1:13:23
X
1:13:24
event.
1:13:25
So
1:13:25
it's
1:13:25
just
1:13:25
four
1:13:26
episodes.
1:13:26
That
1:13:26
was
1:13:27
a
1:13:27
ton
1:13:27
of
1:13:27
fun.
1:13:27
It's
1:13:27
where
1:13:28
they
1:13:28
go
1:13:28
to
1:13:28
the
1:13:29
Nazi
1:13:29
dimension
1:13:29
and
1:13:29
they
1:13:29
have
1:13:30
to
1:13:30
battle
1:13:30
them
1:13:30
and
1:13:30
they
1:13:31
meet
1:13:31
alternate
1:13:31
versions
1:13:32
of
1:13:32
themselves.
1:13:33
Ton
1:13:33
of
1:13:34
fun.
1:13:34
So
1:13:34
I,
1:13:34
you
1:13:34
know,
1:13:35
I.
1:13:35
I
1:13:35
really
1:13:35
recommend
1:13:36
that
1:13:36
one.
1:13:36
But.
1:13:37
Christian,
1:13:38
what
1:13:38
about
1:13:38
you?
1:13:39
Yeah,
1:13:40
again,
1:13:40
for
1:13:40
my
1:13:40
lightning
1:13:41
round.
1:13:41
K
1:13:41
Pop
1:13:42
Demon
1:13:42
Hunters.
1:13:42
It's.
1:13:44
It's
1:13:44
fun.
1:13:45
It's
1:13:45
one.
1:13:46
I
1:13:46
had
1:13:46
a
1:13:46
great
1:13:46
time
1:13:47
watching
1:13:47
it.
1:13:47
I
1:13:48
know
1:13:48
it's
1:13:48
become
1:13:48
a
1:13:48
cultural
1:13:49
phenomenon
1:13:50
that
1:13:50
I
1:13:50
got
1:13:50
late
1:13:50
to
1:13:50
the
1:13:51
party
1:13:51
too,
1:13:51
but
1:13:51
you
1:13:51
know
1:13:51
what?
1:13:51
I'm
1:13:52
glad
1:13:52
to
1:13:52
be
1:13:52
a
1:13:52
part
1:13:52
of
1:13:52
it
1:13:52
now.
1:13:53
Well,
1:13:53
welcome
1:13:53
home.
1:13:53
Right
1:13:54
on.
1:13:54
Right
1:13:54
on.
1:13:55
Evan,
1:13:55
what
1:13:56
about
1:13:56
you?
1:13:57
Since
1:13:57
it's.
1:13:58
Since
1:13:59
it's.
1:14:00
The
1:14:00
season
1:14:01
three
1:14:01
is
1:14:02
coming
1:14:03
out
1:14:03
on
1:14:03
my
1:14:03
birthday,
1:14:04
I'll
1:14:04
suggest
1:14:05
Star
1:14:05
Wars
1:14:06
Visions
1:14:08
can't
1:14:09
wait
1:14:09
for
1:14:09
that.
1:14:09
I
1:14:10
saw
1:14:10
a
1:14:11
few
1:14:11
episodes
1:14:12
the
1:14:12
other
1:14:12
day
1:14:13
and
1:14:13
man,
1:14:14
that's
1:14:14
some
1:14:14
good
1:14:14
stuff
1:14:15
right
1:14:15
there.
1:14:15
That's
1:14:15
a
1:14:15
good
1:14:16
storytelling.
1:14:16
Just
1:14:16
in
1:14:17
general,
1:14:17
just
1:14:17
great
1:14:18
storytelling.
1:14:19
Supposed
1:14:19
to
1:14:19
get
1:14:19
a
1:14:20
follow
1:14:20
up
1:14:20
to.
1:14:20
What
1:14:20
was
1:14:21
it?
1:14:21
The
1:14:21
ninth
1:14:21
Jedi,
1:14:21
I
1:14:22
think.
1:14:22
Yeah,
1:14:22
yeah.
1:14:23
Love
1:14:24
that
1:14:24
one.
1:14:24
Yeah.
1:14:25
So
1:14:26
excellent.
1:14:26
Thanks.
1:14:27
Excellent.
1:14:28
Awesome,
1:14:28
guys.
1:14:29
Well,
1:14:29
this
1:14:29
has
1:14:29
been
1:14:29
a
1:14:29
blast
1:14:30
as
1:14:30
always.
1:14:30
And
1:14:31
for
1:14:31
our
1:14:32
listeners
1:14:32
out
1:14:32
there,
1:14:33
viewers,
1:14:33
again,
1:14:34
thank
1:14:34
you
1:14:34
so
1:14:34
much
1:14:34
for
1:14:34
tuning
1:14:35
in.
1:14:35
Please
1:14:35
like
1:14:36
rate
1:14:36
review,
1:14:37
share
1:14:37
with
1:14:37
your
1:14:38
friends.
1:14:38
If
1:14:38
we
1:14:38
get
1:14:39
50
1:14:39
likes
1:14:40
on
1:14:40
YouTube
1:14:40
at
1:14:41
any
1:14:41
point,
1:14:42
Will
1:14:42
Rose,
1:14:42
who
1:14:43
is
1:14:43
one
1:14:43
of
1:14:43
our
1:14:43
fellow
1:14:44
host,
1:14:44
will,
1:14:45
he
1:14:45
will
1:14:45
do
1:14:45
something.
1:14:46
Whether
1:14:46
it's
1:14:46
frolicking
1:14:47
through
1:14:47
a
1:14:47
field
1:14:47
of
1:14:47
flowers
1:14:48
or
1:14:48
maybe,
1:14:49
you
1:14:49
know,
1:14:49
wearing
1:14:50
an
1:14:50
embarrassing
1:14:50
Halloween
1:14:51
costume,
1:14:51
who
1:14:51
knows.
1:14:52
So
1:14:52
we'll,
1:14:53
we'll
1:14:53
do
1:14:53
something.
1:14:53
But
1:14:54
hey,
1:14:54
your
1:14:55
support
1:14:55
means
1:14:55
the
1:14:55
world
1:14:55
to
1:14:55
us.
1:14:56
So
1:14:57
keep
1:14:57
sharing
1:14:58
the
1:14:58
show,
1:14:58
keep
1:14:58
geeking
1:14:59
out
1:14:59
and
1:15:00
remember,
1:15:00
we
1:15:01
are
1:15:01
all
1:15:02
a
1:15:02
chosen
1:15:02
people,
1:15:03
a
1:15:03
geekdom
1:15:04
of
1:15:04
priests.