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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 221 | Travon Walker Here to Stay, Operations in Orlando 2027 · Jags A.M.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in to jag Zam.
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Speaker 2: Kind of the seasons here with Brian Sexton and John
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Speaker 2: oser I and a lot of things happening in the
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Speaker 2: off season, so we got some good stuff to talk
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Speaker 2: about today. So it's for you are big things and
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Speaker 2: big Thing number one and there's a big person. It's
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Speaker 2: here to stay because Trayvon Walker has signed a four
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Speaker 2: year extension, meeting with the front office over the off season,
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Speaker 2: getting a deal done and he's excited that he has
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Speaker 2: that kind of back and forth and rapport with the
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Speaker 2: front office.
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Speaker 3: It really means a lot, cause, like you said, getting
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Speaker 3: a new staff in, like you, it's always that uncertainty
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Speaker 3: and coming into the and when they first got here,
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Speaker 3: I f I feel like they did a great job
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Speaker 3: of just communicating with me think of things, and that
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Speaker 3: kind of already put in respective to how that relationship
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Speaker 3: was gonna go. Sometimes you never really know how it's
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Speaker 3: gonna go. But every since they've been there, I feel
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Speaker 3: like we on my end and then we've been transparent
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Speaker 3: with each other and we just have cordial conversation to
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Speaker 3: where we can all just be comfortable. And that was
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Speaker 3: one of Liam's main things that like say, what's only
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Speaker 3: speak your mind and we'll go from there.
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Speaker 2: Brian, I think we all expected this to happen, but
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Speaker 2: when you have changes in the front office, you don't
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Speaker 2: know if their perspectives on players are going to be
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Speaker 2: the same. But Liam Cohen coming in James Gladstone, they
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Speaker 2: clearly feel the same about Treyvon Walker. Now he's going
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Speaker 2: to be here through twenty thirty, you know, Kay.
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Speaker 4: One of the first things that James Gladstone started talking
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Speaker 4: about when he was announced as the general manager was
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Speaker 4: Jaguars DNA, and they were going to define that through
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Speaker 4: the players that they acquired and obviously through some of
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Speaker 4: the players that they had. I wrote that in my
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Speaker 4: notebook Jaggs DNA and I started writing names and the
1:43
Speaker 4: first name I wrote was Tony Biselli, obviously, and the
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Speaker 4: next one was Fred Taylor, and the next one was
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Speaker 4: Trayvon Walker.
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Speaker 5: John, we talked about this a little bit.
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Speaker 4: Last week about it was probably coming and when would
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Speaker 4: it happen. To me, it didn't matter when it happened
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Speaker 4: as much as it mattered that it happened, because this
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Speaker 4: guy just absolutely defined the caliber of person and caliber
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Speaker 4: of player that you pay to create your culture, your standard,
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Speaker 4: your DNA.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, James Glanstowe talked about intangibly rich players. Trayvon sort
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Speaker 6: of defines that, and now he's tangibly rich. And I'll
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Speaker 6: apologize to the ozone reader who first emailed that over
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Speaker 6: the weekend for stealing that.
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Speaker 7: But look, it's not really a surprise.
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Speaker 6: Like people outside always want to look at sacks with
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Speaker 6: Trayvon because he's a defensive end, and his sack numbers
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Speaker 6: when he's been healthy have been fine, but there's always
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Speaker 6: sort of this hyper criticism about the couple of things
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Speaker 6: in terms of big sack numbers that he's not.
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Speaker 7: It's what he is that matters to this franchise.
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Speaker 6: And after meeting Liam Cohen and James Gladstone and knowing
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Speaker 6: Tony BISSELLI, I would have been sort of stunned if
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Speaker 6: that group hadn't said we need this kind of player
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Speaker 6: person I always think of the house. Trayvon is the
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Speaker 6: foundation of the house. This team wants to be tough
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Speaker 6: under Liam Cohen. He's your toughest player.
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Speaker 4: Just one more thought on where he ranks and how
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Speaker 4: he is how I see him right, he may not
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Speaker 4: be that elite pass rusher. The guy's going to give
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Speaker 4: you seventeen sacks, like Michaeh Parsons is for Green Bay,
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Speaker 4: like Aiden Hutchinson does for the Lions. But John he's
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Speaker 4: an elite defensive player. I mean the way that he
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Speaker 4: plays the run, the fourth quarter stops. We saw kay
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Speaker 4: late in the season last year, the play that he
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Speaker 4: injured the knee on right where he took the tight
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Speaker 4: end for the Chargers and the right tackle and drove
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Speaker 4: them all the way to the sideline to take the
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Speaker 4: running back down for a one yard loss. The guy's
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Speaker 4: an elite defensive player. And you need those kinds of guys.
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Speaker 4: You don't find it very often.
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Speaker 2: Foundation player and you don't mess with the foundation. I
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Speaker 2: know not a ton about houses, but I know that much.
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Speaker 2: Our second big thing today is going to be home
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Speaker 2: away from home because finally the news has come out
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Speaker 2: we are going to be playing in or Orlando in
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Speaker 2: the year that they play away in twenty twenty seven,
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Speaker 2: and Tony Vasilli talked a little bit about having that
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Speaker 2: home away from home.
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Speaker 5: And that's how we feel. I mean, we think, listen,
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Speaker 5: number one, we.
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Speaker 8: Think a lot of our fans will.
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Speaker 7: Come down from Jacksonville.
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Speaker 5: We think we have a.
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Speaker 8: Ton of fans and Orlando. We also know that there's
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Speaker 8: a ton of NFL fans here and then that with
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Speaker 8: the you combine that with an amount of visiting teams
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Speaker 8: are gonna want to come to the to Orlando to
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Speaker 8: watch their team play. I mean it's a great opportunity.
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Speaker 8: I mean it's somebody with has five kids. I spot
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Speaker 8: quite a bit of time on nine to five.
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Speaker 5: And four head to Disney, so we're familiar with it.
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Speaker 8: I know my family is excited about coming down to
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Speaker 8: watching the NFL and watching the Jaguars play here.
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Speaker 2: John not an ideal situation and not be playing in Jacksonville.
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Speaker 2: Nobody wanted that, but this was kind of the next
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Speaker 2: best thing and the best situation for this team.
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Speaker 6: Well I got I got some emails from people not
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Speaker 6: following it incredibly closely. Maybe oh, disappointed they're not playing
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Speaker 6: in Jacksonville. Well, look, there was have to be a
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Speaker 6: season away from jackson want to make this work, and
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Speaker 6: the Jaguars worked really hard not to make that two seasons,
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Speaker 6: So considering you had to have one away, I think
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Speaker 6: the city and I mean the Jaguars were fortunate to
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Speaker 6: have a city so close that was able to house
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Speaker 6: an NFL team there are certain parameters in terms of
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Speaker 6: broadcasting the game, in terms of being able to host
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Speaker 6: a game and hotel space, and had you been in
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Speaker 6: the middle of nowhere, that could have been a five
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Speaker 6: or six hour deal. So it's not ideal, but it
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Speaker 6: was the thing that made the most sense, and you'll
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Speaker 6: put your head down and get through it.
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Speaker 4: I came over the heart Bridge this morning and as
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Speaker 4: you go down Bay Street you see the Four Seasons hotel,
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Speaker 4: which looks like it's getting close to being done, and
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Speaker 4: the office building and the cranes all over the stadium.
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Speaker 4: And the short term pain of having to play a
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Speaker 4: season in Orlando two hours away is just so it's dwarfed.
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Speaker 5: By the long term gain.
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Speaker 4: John, you were here the day the franchise was awarded.
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Speaker 4: I came shortly thereafter. For decades we have talked about
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Speaker 4: this franchise and its viability in terms of being able
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Speaker 4: to not only compete, but to compete at the highest
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Speaker 4: level with teams from New York, Los Angeles, Chicago in Dallas.
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Speaker 4: Now the opportunity exists for the Jaguars to have that
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Speaker 4: sort of stability and consistency that we always wondered they
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Speaker 4: would they be able to have that in a league
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Speaker 4: where the big markets were growing so exponentially. If you
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Speaker 4: have the ability, and many people don't because you don't
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Speaker 4: live in North Florida. Just drive through downtown Jacksonville and
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Speaker 4: just look at all the cranes and all the buildings
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Speaker 4: that are going up. This thing is stable. Short term,
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Speaker 4: having to deal with Orlando is so infinitesely small compared
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Speaker 4: to the stability and the opportunity to exist for this
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Speaker 4: franchise to play here for your grandchildren's grandchildren.
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Speaker 5: It's real.
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Speaker 2: It's real, and it's coming, and I'll be here soon,
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Speaker 2: very much excited for that. Our final big thing today
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Speaker 2: going to be draft room, because you get caught up
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Speaker 2: in some other things. But the draft is right around
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Speaker 2: the corner, and it will look different this year, Brian.
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Speaker 2: They don't have that first round pick. They have a
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Speaker 2: lot in the second round. That's kind of a sweet
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Speaker 2: spot for them. But the focus is different. I think
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Speaker 2: everything involved with the draft a little bit different. No
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Speaker 2: draft party this year, obviously with no first round pick,
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Speaker 2: but this is kind of where you want to be.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to be focusing as much on this
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Speaker 2: being an exciting time as more of a building.
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Speaker 4: Block time well, and I think we saw last year
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Speaker 4: with what James Gladstone, Visselli and Cohen were able to
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Speaker 4: do to find good football players in the third and
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Speaker 4: fourth round, even deeper than that, guys that were excited
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Speaker 4: about who could come on and really make a difference.
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Speaker 5: You got four the top hundred picks. John, I mean.
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Speaker 4: You're weighing it at fifty six, which there's not all
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Speaker 4: that sex appeal of being in the first round, but
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Speaker 4: you have fifty six, eighty one, eighty eight and one hundred,
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Speaker 4: which means Day two of the draft you have an
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Speaker 4: opportunity to find four future starters. Those are valuable picks
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Speaker 4: and there's a lot of real estate for the Jaguars
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Speaker 4: to maneuver on Day two if.
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Speaker 5: They want to.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Jags fans understandably, and I think we've fallen into
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Speaker 6: have always this has been a cool time of year
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Speaker 6: for fifteen years, because in a lot of years it
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Speaker 6: was the only cool time of year. This is when
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Speaker 6: contending teams they do their job. But it's not always
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Speaker 6: splashy on draft Day because you usually have the twenty
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Speaker 6: ninth pick and it's a much lower profile pick than
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Speaker 6: top ten. If you're bored and sort of disinterested in
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Speaker 6: the draft as a fan this year. Hope that you
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Speaker 6: can get used to that, because that's what you want
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Speaker 6: to be.
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Speaker 7: In terms of the first round.
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Speaker 6: But Brian's right, this is a team right now that
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Speaker 6: can really get rich and do well second three, third
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Speaker 6: round picks. I think they're probably more excited about the
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Speaker 6: draft than the normal fan is.
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Speaker 2: It's different, but it's definitely a good place to be. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: stay with here on DAGs and we're going to talk
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Speaker 2: more a little bit about the season away in Orlando.
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Speaker 2: Will also check in with Zvon Hamilton see what he's
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Speaker 2: up to in the off season. Welcome into our off
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Speaker 2: season check ins where we checking with your favorite Jaguars
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Speaker 2: players see what they're getting up to in the off season.
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Speaker 2: So I wanted to check in with defensive tackle Davon Hamilton.
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Speaker 1: What's your off season like, Devon?
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Speaker 2: Do you kind of fully shut off from football, take
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Speaker 2: a break, hang out with the family or do you
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Speaker 2: still kind of pay attention a little bit and like
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Speaker 2: ease into it.
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Speaker 9: Come a little bit of both. I would say definitely
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Speaker 9: have to take some time off and enjoy the family,
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Speaker 9: enjoy some trips here and there, but definitely been working
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Speaker 9: hard and you know, training getting ready for this upcoming season.
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Speaker 1: God a great year.
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Speaker 2: Last year kind of felt like you got back to
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Speaker 2: you know, maybe twenty twenty two form when you were
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Speaker 2: at your best. And did it feel like you were
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Speaker 2: back to your normal self. I know we talked a
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Speaker 2: little bit about this during the season, kind of bounding
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Speaker 2: your way back from the injury heading twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 2: But did it feel like you were kind of getting
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Speaker 2: back to where you wanted to be and kind of
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Speaker 2: being in fine form?
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Speaker 1: You know, season six, for.
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Speaker 9: Sure, I felt really really good and you know, just
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Speaker 9: really going out there and just having fun. So I
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Speaker 9: felt like that was my biggest emphasis last year.
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Speaker 2: When you have a year like that, do you try
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Speaker 2: to like repeat that in the off season kind of
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Speaker 2: do what you did before? Do you kind of just
10:20
Speaker 2: take it as it is and maybe change things if
10:23
Speaker 2: you feel like you need to, but do whatever.
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Speaker 1: You know, training staff might.
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Speaker 9: Say, Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of like
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Speaker 9: just improvements, you know, work on what you already have,
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Speaker 9: but also try to improve some areas you're a little
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Speaker 9: bit weaker in the year before. So it's kind of
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Speaker 9: what I've been doing.
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Speaker 2: Had some fine moments we all remember, of course, and
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Speaker 2: you're batting down pass in Las Vegas to save the game.
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Speaker 1: And then also some long snapping duties. Do you do
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Speaker 1: any of that stuff in the.
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Speaker 2: Off season or that's kind of like maybe some training
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Speaker 2: camp we work on long snapping if we have to.
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Speaker 9: And I know you he's like riding a bike, you know,
10:52
Speaker 9: he always got in your bag. So I'll practice a
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Speaker 9: little bit, but not too much, you know, it's not
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Speaker 9: the main emphasis.
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Speaker 7: Of what I do.
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Speaker 1: I love your point of view.
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Speaker 2: Obviously getting drafted in twenty twenty and being with the
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Speaker 2: team through so many different kind of eras during that time.
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Speaker 2: What has the last year been like with you know,
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Speaker 2: the change in the front office of James Gladstone and
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Speaker 2: Tony Bisellie, but then also the new coaching staff starting
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Speaker 2: with Liam Cohen. What's this change been like and does
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Speaker 2: it feel a little bit different than maybe some of
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Speaker 2: the others.
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Speaker 9: There's definitely a change, you know, Like you said, I've
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Speaker 9: definitely been into a lot a lot of changes since
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Speaker 9: I've been here in Jacksonville, and this is definitely a
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Speaker 9: change for the better. I think our team's gonna enjoy
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Speaker 9: this a lot and we're going to win a lot
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Speaker 9: of games and fans going to enjoy it a lot.
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Speaker 9: So it's been really exciting seeing all the changes going
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Speaker 9: on recently.
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Speaker 2: From the outside, we feel like we've seen a lot
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Speaker 2: of the buy in, and part of that, at least
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Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball, has been coach
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Speaker 2: Camp who everybody kind of has a different perspective of him,
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Speaker 2: but he's just so intense and you know, he was
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Speaker 2: getting interviews for head coaching positions, but he's going to.
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Speaker 1: Be back this year.
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Speaker 2: What is it about him that kind of brings everybody together?
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Speaker 1: And his personality.
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Speaker 9: I feel like the juicy brings for sure, but I
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Speaker 9: feel like he just ultimately really cares about you as
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Speaker 9: a person, and I feel like that that goes along
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Speaker 9: way with players. You know. You know, a lot of
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Speaker 9: this is obviously we played football for a living and
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Speaker 9: this is what we want to do. But I mean,
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Speaker 9: caring about somebody's family and their overall health and how
12:18
Speaker 9: they're doing on a day to day basis is really
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Speaker 9: the big thing we can't.
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Speaker 1: On the field.
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Speaker 2: Are you excited to kind of have that continuity the
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Speaker 2: defense played you know, really well last year and to
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Speaker 2: have that.
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Speaker 1: Continue into this season. What are you most looking forward to?
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Speaker 9: Oh, you know, just win more games, honestly, I mean,
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Speaker 9: I feel like we have the ability to do so,
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Speaker 9: but they just got to put out there on tape.
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Speaker 1: I feel like you got the taste of it now.
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Speaker 2: I feel like getting into the playoffs and the way
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Speaker 2: they finished the regular season on the wind streak, it
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Speaker 2: felt like everyone expected to be there too. So, like,
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Speaker 2: do you feel that a little bit of a culture
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Speaker 2: shift where winnings now like kind of an expectation doesn't
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Speaker 2: feel like as exciting in that regard.
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Speaker 1: Obviously want to win, but it feels like this is
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Speaker 1: what we should be doing for sure.
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Speaker 9: I mean, that's kind of what we been shriving for
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Speaker 9: for many years now, and you know, sometimes we've fallen
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Speaker 9: short in the past years. But I feel like that's
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Speaker 9: the culture that Liam brings to the to the game
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Speaker 9: and to meetings every single day and you know, emphasize
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Speaker 9: every single day. So I think that's the big cultural
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Speaker 9: change in the in the Jags locker room.
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Speaker 2: Now, the draft's coming up in a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 2: Do you remember that time for you? What was that
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Speaker 2: time kind of like getting ready for the draft, and
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Speaker 2: then kind of having draft day come around for you.
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Speaker 9: It was it was very different. You know, I was
13:31
Speaker 9: expecting a lot of different things. But obviously COVID happened
13:34
Speaker 9: when I came into the league, and uh, you know,
13:37
Speaker 9: there was a lot of sitting waiting and trying to
13:39
Speaker 9: figure out what's going on. I was actually in Orange,
13:43
Speaker 9: Orange County when it first happened. Okay, so that was
13:46
Speaker 9: very interesting. Having to move back to Ohio and kind
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Speaker 9: of sit for a while and when are we going
13:51
Speaker 9: to start? No one knows, And getting drafted sitting at
13:54
Speaker 9: home was a little different. You know, no no partying
13:58
Speaker 9: or anything like that. So it was it was very strange,
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Speaker 9: but the end of the day, it was worth It.
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Speaker 1: Worked out the way you wanted. You got drafted, for sure.
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Speaker 2: You guys leading back in the building soon for off
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Speaker 2: season programming in a little bit, and obviously the rookies
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Speaker 2: will be coming in in a couple of weeks. Do
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Speaker 2: you kind of like that role now that you've been
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Speaker 2: in I mean, it'll be your seventh season right coming up,
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Speaker 2: so kind of play that a little bit of a
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Speaker 2: veteran role with some of the younger guys coming in.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure, I mean, I feel like my rookie
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Speaker 9: yar was just a couple of years ago, you know
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Speaker 9: what I mean, Like it doesn't feel so long. It's
14:31
Speaker 9: kind of a strange way to strange place to step
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Speaker 9: into because you know, I just feel like I'm still
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Speaker 9: learning too, so trying to teach the young guys and
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Speaker 9: still trying to learn yourself.
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Speaker 5: It's pretty unique.
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Speaker 1: It'll be a good experience though, and we'll be excited
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Speaker 1: to see you back in a couple of weeks. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: that was our off season catch up with defensive tackle
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Speaker 1: Devon Hamilton. Stay with us here.
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Speaker 10: We'll have more for you coming up on Jack Sam.
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Speaker 2: Frits, Welcome back into jag Zam.
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Speaker 5: Today.
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Speaker 2: We're going to get some of John Oser's wisdom on
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Speaker 2: all topics.
15:12
Speaker 7: Do you like it or not?
15:13
Speaker 2: We have the resource, why not tap into it. Let's
15:16
Speaker 2: check in with JT from Palmcoast. He says, Hey, John,
15:19
Speaker 2: it's very nice to see Trayvon get his money. It's
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Speaker 2: a fair deal that doesn't set us back. Glad we
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Speaker 2: paid him a year early instead of a year too late.
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Speaker 2: A good deal all around.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I kind of thought they paid him at exactly the
15:31
Speaker 6: right time. I kind of get what he's saying, and
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Speaker 6: if you'd waited one more year, then maybe he comes
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Speaker 6: back he's healthy. I expect him to, if not be
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Speaker 6: a ten sack guy when healthy, to feel like a
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Speaker 6: ten sack guy, meaning to get the kind of quarterback
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Speaker 6: pressure that he got in what twenty three and twenty
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Speaker 6: four when he was healthy and had ten sacks each season.
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Speaker 6: It was the right time to do it. I didn't
15:57
Speaker 6: get another email about boy, they're signing guys quickly. They
16:02
Speaker 6: signed to Kobe Myers quickly. To me, they've been doing
16:06
Speaker 6: things in even colv and Landon. They've been signing these
16:10
Speaker 6: guys at the right time, and they've been signing these
16:12
Speaker 6: guys because they're core players. I thought the timing on
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Speaker 6: Trayvon considering too briant. The regime didn't really know him
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Speaker 6: last year, so to have re upped the major contract
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Speaker 6: before he saw him play.
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Speaker 7: I can see why they waited.
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Speaker 6: Now both sides are comfortable with each other, so this
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Speaker 6: is sort of when I thought it would happen.
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Speaker 4: Was the reason it's right is because they saw him
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Speaker 4: play two weeks after having surgery on a dislocated risk
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Speaker 4: that he suffered in the game in San Francisco.
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Speaker 5: Are you kidding? I mean, think about that for a moment.
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Speaker 4: His punch against a defensive offensive tackle or a tight
16:47
Speaker 4: end is so valuable to him, so important to him,
16:50
Speaker 4: And he had surgery and he's out there playing. And
16:52
Speaker 4: then to complicate that in November six, seven weeks later,
16:55
Speaker 4: is the knee right and he's having to wear a brace.
16:58
Speaker 4: So the entire left side of his body is somewhat
17:00
Speaker 4: weakened by the fact that he's not at full strength
17:03
Speaker 4: and he's out there playing. Sign me up for those
17:05
Speaker 4: kinds of gods and listen, I agree with you. I
17:07
Speaker 4: think Drayvon Walker in a normal year is a ten
17:09
Speaker 4: sack guy. Right year in and year out, he is
17:12
Speaker 4: a ten sack guy, which I think, if he plays
17:15
Speaker 4: long enough, could one day make him the Jaguars all
17:18
Speaker 4: time sack leader. Just consistency of being able to play, Yeah,
17:22
Speaker 4: I would.
17:23
Speaker 6: Expect him to event to hold that record.
17:26
Speaker 5: Yep.
17:26
Speaker 2: Just the consistency has been impressive for me as well.
17:29
Speaker 2: And I think economically, when we look at the contract,
17:33
Speaker 2: it feels like they're signing guys. Even in Jakobe. When
17:35
Speaker 2: you look at that, they're signing guys they want to keep.
17:38
Speaker 2: They're doing it in a way that they can still
17:39
Speaker 2: build around the rest of the team. We're not seeing
17:42
Speaker 2: these record setting deals where then it's hamstringing them with
17:44
Speaker 2: anything else. This is very much a long term goal
17:47
Speaker 2: and a situation where they're trying to build the entire core.
17:50
Speaker 7: Yeah.
17:50
Speaker 6: Well, well to Kobe and Colevan Landon, I understand how
17:55
Speaker 6: you're looking at from the outside. It looked quick, but
17:58
Speaker 6: they're both going to be free agents in this season.
18:00
Speaker 6: So with Jacoby, you knew immediately when they signed Jacoby
18:06
Speaker 6: to the extension in what November I guess it was,
18:09
Speaker 6: I was like, well, thank goodness they did that because
18:12
Speaker 6: you saw what he was doing. You saw what kind
18:14
Speaker 6: of guy was Covid land In the same way had
18:17
Speaker 6: he hit free agency.
18:19
Speaker 7: They signed him what early January?
18:21
Speaker 6: My guess is that price was going to accelerate as
18:23
Speaker 6: you got closer to March fifteenth.
18:25
Speaker 4: When I think of Bears pointing out, we both didn't
18:27
Speaker 4: we all have the same reaction last year when Michael
18:30
Speaker 4: Parsons got his forty seven million dollars a year deal
18:33
Speaker 4: and Aiden Hutchinson got his big deal. Could the Jaguars
18:36
Speaker 4: find a way to make this work with the number
18:39
Speaker 4: one overall pick and a guy that's very productive, and
18:42
Speaker 4: they found a deal that worked for everybody. They found
18:44
Speaker 4: a value that he was comfortable with, that they were
18:46
Speaker 4: comfortable with. There was a time where I wondered if
18:48
Speaker 4: they'd be able to get it done. So the fact
18:49
Speaker 4: that they did well in advanced because you and I
18:52
Speaker 4: talked last week, when does this happen? We were thinking
18:54
Speaker 4: a training camp sometime during the season to get it
18:57
Speaker 4: done now so that you can go into the draft
18:59
Speaker 4: and you can focus on your salary cap and having
19:01
Speaker 4: everything fit together.
19:02
Speaker 5: Well, they're in a good spot.
19:04
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think my guess is that I don't
19:08
Speaker 6: talk to agents anymore in my current role. But my
19:13
Speaker 6: guess is had Trayvon said no, I'm not gonna sign
19:17
Speaker 6: with Jacksonville gone and hit the market, I think he
19:22
Speaker 6: would have been the highest paid player in whatever free
19:24
Speaker 6: agent class he comes out, the bidding war probably would
19:27
Speaker 6: have skyrocket his money past what he got. I don't
19:33
Speaker 6: think everybody cares about money. I don't think he necessarily
19:36
Speaker 6: cared about doing that. I think he wanted some place
19:39
Speaker 6: He's He's gonna be fine.
19:41
Speaker 7: Financial for the rest of his life.
19:43
Speaker 6: I think he realized this was a fair deal based
19:45
Speaker 6: on the player that he is, not that he is.
19:48
Speaker 6: He's out a sack guy, like a pure sat guy,
19:51
Speaker 6: so he's probably not gonna get that that sort of money,
19:54
Speaker 6: which is a different market. But he is a he
19:57
Speaker 6: is a first rate player who can define a defense, and.
20:01
Speaker 7: He got that kind of money.
20:02
Speaker 4: I came in on Saturday to talk to him, and
20:04
Speaker 4: you know, you can see through the interviews and read
20:07
Speaker 4: I'm happy, I'm happy.
20:08
Speaker 5: I'm happy. Let me tell you he's happy. He wants
20:11
Speaker 5: happy to be here.
20:12
Speaker 4: His parents, his sisters, his nieces, they were all here,
20:16
Speaker 4: all in the draft room, they had lunch together. But
20:19
Speaker 4: just he is one of those people that if I
20:23
Speaker 4: were to rank the caliber of person and the caliber
20:25
Speaker 4: of player, right, I put him side by side with
20:28
Speaker 4: Tony Bisselli and side by side with Frank Taylor in
20:31
Speaker 4: terms of that, and it was on full display.
20:34
Speaker 5: He is very happy.
20:36
Speaker 1: Is your stay logical?
20:37
Speaker 2: Next question for you, John good?
20:40
Speaker 7: Move on Walker?
20:40
Speaker 2: Do you ever see him moving inside? We need to know,
20:43
Speaker 2: the people need to know.
20:47
Speaker 6: In this dayna is to say a player is moving
20:49
Speaker 6: to a different position. I'm not down playing the question
20:54
Speaker 6: of the question. Players play so much any different positions
21:02
Speaker 6: within defenses now, it's such a higherd thing. I think
21:05
Speaker 6: Trayvon Walker will probably remain listed as a defensive end
21:08
Speaker 6: and play there primarily in base but it's not a
21:12
Speaker 6: base league anymore. On passing situations, he played inside more
21:18
Speaker 6: last year. I anticipate that they will use him to
21:22
Speaker 6: try to solve what is clearly an issue with interior
21:25
Speaker 6: pass rush. I think putting Trayvon Walker inside and a
21:30
Speaker 6: lot of passing situations makes sense. You also probably will
21:35
Speaker 6: see him play linebacker in some situations or look like
21:38
Speaker 6: he's playing linebacker because he can do anything up front.
21:43
Speaker 6: Will he line up at DT next to Devon Hamilton
21:47
Speaker 6: on the depth chart? I kind of doubt that will happen,
21:50
Speaker 6: But I think he's going to be a force inside.
21:51
Speaker 4: Find me a sub three hundred pound defensive tackle on
21:54
Speaker 4: an everyday basis. I mean, the only one I can
21:56
Speaker 4: think of recently was Aaron Donald, and last week Liam
21:58
Speaker 4: Gounn was talking about wanting Trayvon to be disruptive in
22:02
Speaker 4: practice like Aaron Donald was all those years in Los Angeles.
22:06
Speaker 5: I'm with you.
22:06
Speaker 4: You mentioned earlier that the front office got to know
22:09
Speaker 4: Trayvon last year, well so did Anthony campin Eli right,
22:13
Speaker 4: So now he's got a year with him and now
22:16
Speaker 4: can figure out what the next role is for him inside.
22:19
Speaker 4: But he's got the length, he's got the strength, and
22:21
Speaker 4: he's got the suddenness to be able.
22:23
Speaker 5: To be a factor.
22:24
Speaker 4: But I don't think you want him in there on
22:26
Speaker 4: every down because you got your stretches the game to
22:28
Speaker 4: the sidelines with his quickness.
22:30
Speaker 6: I didn't talk to Treymon I had specifically last year,
22:32
Speaker 6: but I sort of wonder too early with his wrist,
22:36
Speaker 6: would it have been harder for him to play inside
22:39
Speaker 6: in certain situations, because I don't know that for it
22:42
Speaker 6: seems like it might have been. As he got healthier
22:44
Speaker 6: at the end of the year, maybe he was able
22:46
Speaker 6: to do that a little more. I love watching a
22:50
Speaker 6: healthy Trayvon play. I hope he's healthy next year for
22:54
Speaker 6: more reasons than.
22:55
Speaker 5: Just my.
22:59
Speaker 7: Yes.
23:00
Speaker 2: Final question for you Rich from Georgia. What is the
23:02
Speaker 2: current seating capacity in Orlando? Is Orlando doing anything in
23:05
Speaker 2: the off season to upgrade or add additional seating? Are
23:09
Speaker 2: there any requirements the NFL is to impose on Orlando
23:11
Speaker 2: to bring it up to NFL standards?
23:13
Speaker 1: Lots of Orlando questions, but I think.
23:15
Speaker 2: If NFL is going to impose anything they like to
23:18
Speaker 2: impose there will they might.
23:20
Speaker 6: There are standards. I think it's sixty five thousand. It's
23:23
Speaker 6: going to be in twenty twenty seven, if I remember
23:27
Speaker 6: the number right I wrote about it.
23:30
Speaker 7: They certainly have.
23:34
Speaker 6: They're doing a four hundred million dollar up there to
23:37
Speaker 6: get to NFL level. If the NFL didn't believe that
23:43
Speaker 6: it was going to be at the imposed level, then
23:48
Speaker 6: the deal wouldn't have happened.
23:49
Speaker 7: So it will be an NFL.
23:53
Speaker 6: Level standard stadium when the Jaguars play in it. One
23:58
Speaker 6: little misconception that Orlando did all this work just to
24:02
Speaker 6: host nine NFL games, Well, they're doing it also because
24:07
Speaker 6: they host three college football games. I'm not sure what
24:10
Speaker 6: they will be able to do this year because of
24:12
Speaker 6: the construction, but they're looking at this long term as
24:16
Speaker 6: they want an elite stadium and the Jaguars playing there
24:19
Speaker 6: for a year as part of it.
24:20
Speaker 5: That's the truth.
24:21
Speaker 4: They're spending four hundred million dollars so they will meet
24:24
Speaker 4: NFL standards.
24:25
Speaker 5: It's one of the reasons why the Jaguars are going there.
24:27
Speaker 4: The long term vision for the stadium is to be
24:29
Speaker 4: a stable place where they can host college and NFL games. Listen,
24:33
Speaker 4: at some point the Buccaneers are going to do their stadium,
24:36
Speaker 4: and this stadium for Florida and for Central Florida sets
24:40
Speaker 4: up perfectly to be able to meet the needs of
24:43
Speaker 4: NFL and college football. So the four hundred million dollar
24:46
Speaker 4: investment is one of the big reasons why the Jaguars
24:49
Speaker 4: can go and play there.
24:50
Speaker 1: There's a lot of.
24:50
Speaker 2: Stuff they still have to figure out with Orlando, but
24:52
Speaker 2: we do know that the team will still be based
24:54
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville. It's not like the team's moving to Orlando
24:56
Speaker 2: by any means. I will always like to clarify that.
24:58
Speaker 2: I've gotten a couple of questions about that too. Will
25:00
Speaker 2: they change their practice schedule within the you know, the
25:08
Speaker 2: parime is this conversation.
25:09
Speaker 6: The team will do everything as it does now except
25:13
Speaker 6: treat Orlando home games like a road game in terms
25:17
Speaker 6: of travel. I'm sure there's nuances within that, but for
25:21
Speaker 6: the most part, it will be just like it is here,
25:23
Speaker 6: except we will leave Saturday for Jaguars home games the
25:28
Speaker 6: same way that the team leaves for road games.
25:31
Speaker 1: We haven't heard yet. If you have to drive by
25:32
Speaker 1: yourself yet though, right zone.
25:34
Speaker 6: Well usually they want me isolated just so they need
25:39
Speaker 6: you in the zone, so the.
25:40
Speaker 7: Right but nobody wants to be around me, so which
25:43
Speaker 7: is fair.
25:43
Speaker 2: We'll keep you all updated on travel and what not
25:46
Speaker 2: when we get more details, but things will still be
25:48
Speaker 2: very much based here in Jacksonville. Say with us, we'll
25:51
Speaker 2: say what's coming up next week and they get ready
25:52
Speaker 2: for the draft. DAGs fan's time to lock in your
26:01
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26:04
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26:07
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26:09
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26:11
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26:19
Speaker 9: No, you don't want to go for it. You do
26:23
Speaker 9: not want to go for it.
26:24
Speaker 6: They run and sweep the whole He gets hated, a back.
26:27
Speaker 5: Found I want to play.
26:37
Speaker 1: I told him how to go for graymon Walker.
26:40
Speaker 2: Ever, the communicator told him not to go for it,
26:43
Speaker 2: and exactly, God, exactly what they didn't want.
26:44
Speaker 1: Which was a stop on fourth doown.
26:46
Speaker 6: Yeah, all behind the lot of scrimmage on Brian, Thank you,
26:50
Speaker 6: Roy and girl on the same page about this.
26:53
Speaker 7: We are such a social.
26:55
Speaker 6: Media stat driven league and everybody focuses on sad if
27:01
Speaker 6: you took fourth and one stops and huge plays like
27:04
Speaker 6: that and count it was.
27:07
Speaker 7: That play a sack, I don't know.
27:10
Speaker 5: I mean he made a play against the Cults like
27:11
Speaker 5: that too.
27:12
Speaker 6: Yeah, And so if you took the number of plays
27:15
Speaker 6: that Trayvon puts the other team in poor situations, which
27:22
Speaker 6: are impact plays which sometimes matter as much as sacks,
27:26
Speaker 6: then I think people who watched the game have less
27:31
Speaker 6: to say critically about Trayvon than people who go on
27:36
Speaker 6: profoot and described numbers.
27:38
Speaker 4: So if you go back and you want to put
27:39
Speaker 4: a situational value to it as well, if you remember
27:42
Speaker 4: he did the exact same thing against the Colts after
27:44
Speaker 4: Bacial Tuton was stripped and the game I think it
27:47
Speaker 4: was twenty one to ten at that point something like that,
27:49
Speaker 4: and they had the ball in midfield at the end
27:51
Speaker 4: of the first half, and you think, holy cow, you
27:54
Speaker 4: know they could get into this thing no matter who
27:56
Speaker 4: the quarterback was. Because Daniel Jones was injured and he
27:58
Speaker 4: came through with a huge play on Worth down that
28:00
Speaker 4: just stuffed it and just extinguished the light.
28:03
Speaker 5: Well, how do you put a value on that hunt?
28:05
Speaker 4: And you had to be paying attention to the Jaguars
28:07
Speaker 4: against the Colts who were reeling at that moment to
28:10
Speaker 4: truly understand how big of a moment it was for
28:13
Speaker 4: Trevan Walker.
28:14
Speaker 5: And he does that all the time.
28:16
Speaker 6: I think the overall theme that I know, Kay, you
28:19
Speaker 6: and I have talked about it some. If you listen
28:23
Speaker 6: to people around the league now, they're starting to catch
28:25
Speaker 6: on to the Jaguars as much as they throw the
28:28
Speaker 6: ball around and Trey and Trevor played well. Their identity
28:32
Speaker 6: or somebody on a podcast a couple weeks ago, they
28:34
Speaker 6: are a tough team, and teams around the league who
28:38
Speaker 6: play them, they're up there with the toughest teams in
28:41
Speaker 6: the league. It's what they want their identity to be.
28:44
Speaker 6: Don't let forty four leave if you want to be
28:47
Speaker 6: a tough team, because to me, he's the spine of that.
28:50
Speaker 6: Him and Breton Strange to me are the guys that
28:52
Speaker 6: I don't want to if I'm watching the game and
28:55
Speaker 6: I see somebody hurt. Trevor's the first guy that I
28:58
Speaker 6: don't want to see down Brenton and Trayvon for that reason,
29:02
Speaker 6: that identity, that spine uh to me, they're the foundation of.
29:06
Speaker 2: The franchise absolutely, and now we know at least Trayvon's
29:09
Speaker 2: half will be here for uh long time. They're working
29:12
Speaker 2: on Brenon Strange coming up next, so keep an eye
29:15
Speaker 2: if there's any more extensions the next couple of days,
29:17
Speaker 2: and then we'll be back next week on Jagsam to
29:19
Speaker 2: talk more as we look into the draft upcoming.
29:22
Speaker 7: Let's just two weeks