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Bonus Episode: Hanging with Hip Hop Stars, the VMAs, and the Return of the Biggest Band on the Planet · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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  Speaker 1: just to touch, to get you through. Yeah me too.
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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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  Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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  Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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  Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig
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  Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to
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  Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about this week's full episode subject Part two
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  Speaker 1: of our fifty cents story. We're rewinding back to our
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  Speaker 1: Rolling Stones episodes and revisiting Oasis as well, previewing our
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  Speaker 1: upcoming episode on Jimmy Buffett, and we get into your voicemails, text, dms,
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  Speaker 1: and as all, a whole lot of rosie. This is
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  Speaker 1: the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent
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  Speaker 1: thinkers who know that the best history is the history
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  Speaker 1: that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories
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  Speaker 1: they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling
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  Speaker 1: someone else, all Right, disc goes. Let's get into it
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  Speaker 1: all right. If you were lucky enough to see Oasis
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  Speaker 1: on their latest run, know that I sit here burning
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  Speaker 1: in jealousy. The band announced this morning that they're going
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  Speaker 1: to do more shows for their upcoming thirtieth anniversary next
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  Speaker 1: year at Nebworth. They must have heard our rewind episodes
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  Speaker 1: last week and we're reminded of how badass they are
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  Speaker 1: and how the music world needs them performing to save
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  Speaker 1: us from whatever the hell the MTV Video Music Awards were.
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  Speaker 1: The other night, Thurst and More from Sonic Youth tweeted
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  Speaker 1: that the VMAs is really the bottoming out of music culture,
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  Speaker 1: and I cannot say that I disagree separately. It's hard
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  Speaker 1: to even call what was happening at the VMA's culture.
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  Speaker 1: So much of it seemed fabricated to me, put on faked.
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  Speaker 1: Are those people up front really that stoke to see
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  Speaker 1: Somber perform? Really? Part of the VMAs was always canned
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  Speaker 1: and for the cameras even back in the day. But
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  Speaker 1: long gone is the cultural residence of Snoop performing his
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  Speaker 1: hit single in nineteen ninety four murder was the Case,
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  Speaker 1: and then turning himself into police moments later. On a
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  Speaker 1: murder beef, or Kurt and Courtney sniping backstage with Axel,
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  Speaker 1: or Madonna making out with Britney, or even Kanye bum
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  Speaker 1: rushing tailor. Sure these seem more important because they took
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  Speaker 1: place during our formative years, but they really were more
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  Speaker 1: important than whatever the hell happened the other night at
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  Speaker 1: the VMAs. No one is talking about the VMA's not
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  Speaker 1: really sure conversation is being manufactured. But I make it
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  Speaker 1: my business to try and get a wide view of
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  Speaker 1: music culture. I follow and consume modern music media and organically,
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you the cultural impact of the VMAs
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  Speaker 1: is small, no one really cares. But people are still
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  Speaker 1: talking about those Oasis gigs that happened in Los Angeles
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  Speaker 1: last weekend. People really care about that. Somehow, two irishmen
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  Speaker 1: from Manchester, England, in their fifties, who never really broke
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  Speaker 1: in America before, have conquered America without a single and
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  Speaker 1: with only nostalgia. And the reason isn't just because their
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  Speaker 1: music is great. It's because of what we traffic in
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  Speaker 1: here in disgraceland mythology. The myth of oasis transcends age,
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  Speaker 1: It transcends style, It transcends oceans that separate continents. Blur
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  Speaker 1: might have had the bigger hit in the US back
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  Speaker 1: in the day, and arguably and I'm saying arguably, not definitively,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm letting the word might do a lot of
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  Speaker 1: work here in the sentence. Some people, not me, might
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  Speaker 1: claim that Blur arguably has a better catalog of albums.
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  Speaker 1: But in the end, Oasis won the britpop war. They
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  Speaker 1: conquered America two decades after the fact because of the
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  Speaker 1: myths surrounding who they are, and none of that rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll mythology is put on or canned. Oasis didn't
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  Speaker 1: rule the summer of twenty twenty five both here and
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  Speaker 1: across the pond because of a new single or a
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  Speaker 1: new album, or an unexpected viral video on TikTok or
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  Speaker 1: whatever else. Oasis conquered because everyone loves rock and roll mythology,
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  Speaker 1: and Oasis are mythic. They are legends to their core,
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  Speaker 1: truly authentic, one hundred percent themselves, unafraid to say exactly
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  Speaker 1: what they think, fearless in the face of trends, in
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  Speaker 1: the face of each other, ready to throw down with whomever,
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  Speaker 1: willing to brawl with themselves, with the world, like the
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  Speaker 1: hoodlums that they are at their core, like true rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll stars, not prefab, focus group tested, algorithm approved
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  Speaker 1: artists like Somber or pick whichever other lame musician performed
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  Speaker 1: the other night that made you throw up in your
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  Speaker 1: mouth while you were watching the VMAs whatever that was.
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  Speaker 1: Oasis is the exact opposite, and they've been that for years.
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  Speaker 1: Oasis didn't need canned responses from some bullshit digital marketing campaign.
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  Speaker 1: The myth didn't need to be manufactured because the myth
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  Speaker 1: already exists. We don't need corporations, we don't need algorithms,
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  Speaker 1: we don't need chasm to tell our stories. We never did.
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  Speaker 1: And if Oasis proved anything this summer, it's that we
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  Speaker 1: still don't. If you want to hear exactly what I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about, check out the two Oasis episodes that are
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  Speaker 1: in the feed right now and hear how the band
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  Speaker 1: rose through the crime and grime of working class Manchester
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  Speaker 1: into what they are today. We've also got another legend
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  Speaker 1: in your feed right now, another outspoken legend. I should say.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to hear a conversation between Liam Gallagher in
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  Speaker 1: fifty cent By the way, Liam just In a side.
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  Speaker 1: Liam Gallagher dissing Mark Zuckerberg is just Mark Zuckerberg. If
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  Speaker 1: you haven't seen this, posted a pic of him and
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  Speaker 1: his wife at Oasis, and I forget what Liam's Liam's
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  Speaker 1: quote was, or his comment on the post was. It
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  Speaker 1: was something like go home, nerd, something like that. It's
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  Speaker 1: just fucking perfect. I'd love to hear Liam Gallagher in
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  Speaker 1: fifty cent talking let's let's make that happen. But anyways,
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  Speaker 1: in your feed right now, our part two episode on
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  Speaker 1: fifty cent and the myths surrounding who exactly was responsible
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  Speaker 1: for shooting fifty Fidty whatever the hell you want to
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  Speaker 1: call him. That's our new part two episode on fifty
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  Speaker 1: cent and coming up next in your feed. Immediately after
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  Speaker 1: this bonus episode, we are rewinding our Rolling Stones Parts
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  Speaker 1: one and two if you want to dip back into
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  Speaker 1: the way back British pop star machine and get a
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  Speaker 1: glimpse of what the tabloids scaffolding that would support and
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  Speaker 1: consume Oasis later in the nineties was all about. This
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  Speaker 1: is a good piece of music history for context. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Rolling Stones Part one and two check that out next week.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't wait for next week's episode
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  Speaker 1: of Disgraceland, God's own drunk hits your feed when Jimmy
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  Speaker 1: Buffett drifts into your ears. Will you arrive on a
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  Speaker 1: drug trafficker cigarette boat or will you arrive half stoned
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  Speaker 1: and just a tiny bit loaded on his Boston Whaler?
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  Speaker 1: Or will he show up with bono fresh from dodging
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  Speaker 1: Jamaican bullets. You're gonna have to listen to find out.
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: So so, so, so, so so so much information in
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  Speaker 1: this Jimmy Buffett story. We couldn't cram it all into
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  Speaker 1: a thirty minute episode, but I've got a way to
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  Speaker 1: bring you more of the music and true crime on
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  Speaker 1: the Rag in a different format. I'm excited to share
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  Speaker 1: with you more on that in coming weeks, though. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: bunch of you who feel the same. I'm sure the
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• 8:26
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  Speaker 1: I'm at. I'm in the phone with the one across
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  Speaker 1: the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone hoping to pick
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  Speaker 1: answers to last week's question of the week, Which hip
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  Speaker 1: hop star living or dead would you most want to
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  Speaker 1: hang out with or grab a drink with or whatever?
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  Speaker 1: We asked this because obviously of our fifty cent Part
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  Speaker 1: two episode. In the feed, Karen from the six four
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  Speaker 1: to six hit us up. Let's hear from Karen.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, what's up?
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  Speaker 3: It's Karen in the six four six.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm too late.
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  Speaker 3: I just heard your question from.
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  Speaker 4: The bonus episode, like which hip hop or if you
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  Speaker 4: want to talk to you and spend some time with
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  Speaker 4: and have a drink with.
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  Speaker 3: And ask questions and just have a good conversation with.
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  Speaker 4: And immediately I thought.
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  Speaker 3: Chuck D of course, rock and roller bro.
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  Speaker 1: Karen, Chuck D. You know I I that if it
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  Speaker 1: weren't for fifty cent, that would be my answer. I
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  Speaker 1: can make it. I can make a case for Q
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  Speaker 1: Tip as well. A lot of people said, Chuck d Karen,
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  Speaker 1: You're not alone. Let's go to Tony in the two six.
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  Speaker 4: Jake, what's going on? Brother Tony from the two oh six?
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  Speaker 4: To answer your question, I would want to have a conversation,
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  Speaker 4: sit down, a conversation with none of the legend himself.
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  Speaker 4: Ll cool j I mean, the man essentially has kind
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  Speaker 4: of been around since the birth of hip hop. You
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  Speaker 4: gotta remember, he was the first act signed to death Jam.
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  Speaker 4: He's the first solo rapper to go platinum, so you know,
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  Speaker 4: he's got tons of stories. Guys around eighties nineties especially,
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  Speaker 4: you know, what was it like making that transition into
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  Speaker 4: acting but still also being you know, still known as
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  Speaker 4: a as a legitimate rapper. You know, did he have
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: a really have a problem with Tupac over the fact
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  Speaker 4: that him and Tupac at one point both dated Cadatta
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  Speaker 4: Jones allegedly, But you know, yeah, that would be the
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  Speaker 4: guy who I really want to have a conversation with.
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  Speaker 4: Much love loved this episode piece, LL.
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  Speaker 1: Cool Jake, great choice. He goes so far back back
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  Speaker 1: to the beginning. I mean, living icon. This guy not
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  Speaker 1: the Chuck Tea isn't but Tony, I love this one,
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  Speaker 1: and I love this one because I'm gonna ta you
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: a very very quick story. Not so long ago, I
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  Speaker 1: found myself on a zoom or about to join a
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  Speaker 1: zoom that I knew L Coolja was going to be on.
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  Speaker 1: It was just going to be me and Todd that's
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  Speaker 1: his real name. We were told in advance to make
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  Speaker 1: sure we call him Todd. It was just gonna be me, Todd,
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  Speaker 1: my business partner at the time, and Todd's guy. And
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  Speaker 1: most times I get into these zooms. I get into these,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a little bit early, and either way it works.
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  Speaker 1: In Hollywood, they have like at the high level of
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  Speaker 1: music industry, And forgive me if you guys know this
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  Speaker 1: stuff whatever, I'm just saying it for those who don't.
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  Speaker 1: Typically the artist, a big artist like that, their representation
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  Speaker 1: is on the phone first without them, and it's such
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  Speaker 1: a power move. I kind of love it. They don't,
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  Speaker 1: so the star won't come onto the call or into
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  Speaker 1: the zoom until their rep lets him know that everybody's there.
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  Speaker 1: So and I get it. It's I wouldn't do that,
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  Speaker 1: but I understand. It's like they're trying to manage their time.
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  Speaker 1: You could say, you know, generously, that's the reason for this,
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  Speaker 1: or they just don't want to fuck around with small
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  Speaker 1: talk with people they don't know, so they come in
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  Speaker 1: at the absolute last minute and they are right down
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  Speaker 1: to business. They're super charming. They make you feel good,
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  Speaker 1: and then you're right into what you're going to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: So I get on the zoom expecting that to happen,
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  Speaker 1: and I get on the zoom and it's literally just
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  Speaker 1: me in LL cool J, and he just goes. The
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  Speaker 1: first thing he says is double Elvis in that LL
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  Speaker 1: cool J voice because he saw it pop up on
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  Speaker 1: my zoom Moniker, and he couldn't have been cooler. He
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  Speaker 1: was attentive, he was informed, he knew what was up.
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  Speaker 1: And like all A lists celebrities that I've met and
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  Speaker 1: been around, they make you. The A list celebrities make
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  Speaker 1: you feel great. They come at you with all that
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  Speaker 1: charm and you're just like, oh fuck, I totally get
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  Speaker 1: why this guy is so fucking famous and successful. Bless
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: celebrities kind of the same thing, kind of to a
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  Speaker 1: lesser degree, cless celebrities. That's when the sort of like
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  Speaker 1: you can feel you can feel the what is it?
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  Speaker 1: You can feel some insecurity and perhaps some venom. You
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  Speaker 1: can feel a little bit of I don't know, angst.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And this is not my take,
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  Speaker 1: by the way. This comes from Paul Shecher, who a
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  Speaker 1: lovely guy. I just ran into him randomly one night
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  Speaker 1: at a bar and we got to talking and he
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  Speaker 1: told me this story. And then I went on his
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: podcast and I went on how did this get made?
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  Speaker 1: And we talked about it there as well with his
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  Speaker 1: partner Jason. But this is his theory. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to take credit for it. I want to confirm ITL
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  Speaker 1: cool Ja confirms it, and uh yeah, I guess I
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  Speaker 1: really I you know, I didn't hang with LLL. I
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  Speaker 1: had a business meeting with him, but it was still
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  Speaker 1: very very very cool. Kevin from the three one four
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  Speaker 1: so I can stop talking to here play the three one.
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  Speaker 3: Format, Jake, Kevin call him from the three one four.
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  Speaker 3: I been listening from day one, but my first time
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  Speaker 3: calling in. You asked about who would you like to
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  Speaker 3: talk to in the hip hop community? I hate hip hop,
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  Speaker 3: but I will tell you Ice Tea why for all
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  Speaker 3: the obvious reasons, but not the obvious reasons, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: come on, the guy was in a legend in that world,
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  Speaker 3: became an actor body Count, the guy turning to a
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  Speaker 3: metal act a metal act, and that's unheard of anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Would love your thoughts, peace out, Roger Rolla.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Kevin, I gotta quibble with the hating hip
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  Speaker 1: hop comment. I don't know how that's possible. I don't
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: know how you how do you hate ice tea? So so,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm listening to you correctly, you like body Count,
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  Speaker 1: you don't like iced tea rap stuff, and I just
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  Speaker 1: you know, well, I like that. You want to hang
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  Speaker 1: out with him anyways, maybe he'll maybe he'll open your
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  Speaker 1: mind to hip hop. I hope. So seven one six
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  Speaker 1: text in on the same question. This always feels like
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  Speaker 1: a flex when I say it out loud. Hey, I
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  Speaker 1: don't care about flex and i'd share your stories man.
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  Speaker 1: Seven one six says, Uh, it might sound like a
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  Speaker 1: flex when I say it out loud, but it kind
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  Speaker 1: of is. I would spend more time with Chuck D. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: more time after his book Fight, The Power, Rap, Race
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  Speaker 1: and Reality. I got to see Chuck D talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: Such a robust piece of work, and at that time
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  Speaker 1: I ran a nonprofit and get to spend a little
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: bit of time with him afterwards, talking about generational poverty
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  Speaker 1: and housing issues. It was the most interesting and meaningful
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: conversation of my career. Love that seven one six, Love
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  Speaker 1: that you got to hang with Chuck d You were
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  Speaker 1: very lucky, super cool. All right, what are we doing here,
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to the I'm gonna read you a text
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  Speaker 1: here from the nine oh four if I can find it.
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  Speaker 1: Where's it at? Where's it at? Where's it at? Right here?
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  Speaker 1: Jake spent from the nine oh four In today's after party,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Spencer's referring to the last after party. Are you talking
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  Speaker 1: about a two in a snore the session of John,
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  Speaker 1: Paul and Stevie. If so, it exists, I've listened to it.
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  Speaker 1: It's them jamming stand by Me and other songs. It's fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: You can even hear John ask Stevie if he wants
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  Speaker 1: to bump at one point, Spencer, I love this, and
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  Speaker 1: I get to apologize to everybody out there. I thought
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: this was some like actual, real mythic piece of content
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: that no one can get their hands on. I know it.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: You can just go on YouTube and find this and
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I feel really stupid. So that's gonna happen. We're all
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: gonna feel stupid in our lives. Spencer. Thanks for pointing
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: this out. I guess you know, guys, what we're talking
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: about here is last week we were talking about mythical
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: recording sessions, and we talked about John Lennon, Paul McCartney,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: and Stevie Wonder. And I always heard that Ringo was
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: there too, Spencer. I might not be wrong, but y'all
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: can figure this out for yourselves.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: You don't need me. You can go to YouTube and
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: just snore and just snort and just search for a
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  Speaker 1: twot in a snore. There you go. Thank you, Spencer.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Over in what part of the world we're going too? Next,
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  Speaker 1: let's go to the nine to one six.
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  Speaker 2: Hey it Smithson Taylor from Raleigh, North Carolina. I'm sitting
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: here in Los Angeles, California, after what is arguably maybe
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the best couds that I've ever seen Oasis at the
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Rose Bowl. It was every bit as epic as was promised.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: It was better than I could have imagined. The band
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: is just so tight. Liam is every bit the street
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: walking cheetah. He ever was. They had us in the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: palm of their hand for the entire show. Eighty thousand
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: fans could not get enough. It was just an endless
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: see of the happiest people you've ever seen withnessing a
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: band in their crime, which is crazy to think because
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: it's been thirty years and they're still doing this at
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: the highest level. The show was incredible, The screens were amazing,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: the set pieces were just so fascinating and interesting, and
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: everybody in that entire stadium was having the time of
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: their lives. Great show. I just I'm at a loss
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: for words at how well they have put this together,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: how great they looked and sounded. Oasis is maybe the
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: biggest rock band in the world right now because they
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: belong in stadiums like that, and they will pack a
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: stadium every time they show up because it's the best
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: show on earth. That's all I got to say, rock
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and roll to Jake, I'm going a loss for words.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Nine one six, you are confirming the first five hundred
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: words of this episode. Here my rave on on Oasis,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and I'm happy you were there. I have extreme fomo
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: not going to these shows. I don't have a lot
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: of regrets in life. This is one of them. I
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: might have to go to ned Worth, might be happening.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know where the hell is Networth. I don't
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: even know, all right, guys. Usually I talked about this
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: yesterday in the Patreon to some of the Patreon listeners.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Used to be I just released twenty four episodes a year.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I'd release one every other week, not even every other week.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: It was, you know, that was the schedule, and it
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: was more of an event when a disgraced aand episode
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: would come out. Now we've got we're always on. We've
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: got multiple episodes per week. Feels less like an event
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: on social media. When I would do just twenty four
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a year, i'd release one, I'd wake up in the morning,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I'd open Instagram and Facebook and there'd be this you
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people, lots of big conversation immediately,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: just like that. Now the conversation, there's a big conversation,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: but it's always happening, it's always on. Just like the episodes.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel as eventized, and it's also fragmented. We're
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: talking about a gazillion different things at once. We're not
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: spending as much time talking about you know, one single
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: episode like fifty cent Part two this week. What I
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: did yesterday I went on Patreon in the afternoon and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I just I just started a live stream and I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: started talking to some folks, and I think I'm gonna
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: do that every Tuesday on release days with new episodes.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: And if you're around, you're in the Patreon chat, get
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: on in there on Tuesdays and we'll chop it up
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: about I guess next week we'll be talking about Jimmy Buffett.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: All right, so the parrot heeads. This is your chance,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: this is your chance. You want to escapism Disgraceland style,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get it firsthand from me next Tuesday in
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the Patreon chat. I don't know, sometime est afternoon. Maybe
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I'll push it seven to eight early evening so West
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Coast folks can jump in. I know we get a
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: lot of listeners in California and Los Angeles. Speaking to listeners,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I want to shout out Kimberly Harris from the Patreon
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: community for being in especially awesome Disgraceland All Access member.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: She's always in the chat. She's always bringing something new
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: information wise, bringing something new to the community. She's obviously
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: appreciated by all. Plus she just had a birthday. So Kimberly,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: if you're listening, know that we appreciate you. And then
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I'm personally grateful for your continued support and i am
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: no Mitch. Big shout out to everyone else who jumped
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: into the unannounced live stream on Tuesday night with me.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Let's do more of that. I'm gonna take a quick break.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I'll be back in a flash. So this week in
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: hollywood Land, on our Hollywoodland podcast, we let loose our
• 23:31
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• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the Wild. You can hear that now, and you can
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: hear Zeth talking movie history and true crime in the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Rap Party episode as well. So we do a full
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: episode from the archive of hollywood Land every week. Plus
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Zeth does his version of a bonus episode called the
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Rap Party, which people are loving. And I'm psyched for that,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: and I'm psyched that you're all welcoming Zeth and supporting
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: him in the community. This wasn't really planned. It just
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: kind of happened, and it's you know, Zesk got his
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: own thing going on. He's got a point of view
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: on a lot of stuff. And you guys, you guys,
• 24:07
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  Speaker 1: from the Hollywood side of the fence. Zeth and I
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  Speaker 1: used to drop our music in movie recks in the
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  Speaker 1: wrap party in the Hollywood Land feed, but from now
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  Speaker 1: on they are going to live here in the after
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  Speaker 1: party inside the exclusive section. This week, I've got some
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: killer music picks related to Carrie Fisher. If you can
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: believe that, Zess got is movie recommendations, and I might
• 24:37
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• 24:51
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• 24:54
  Speaker 1: it's just the start of it, all right, just the
• 24:57
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• 24:59
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• 25:02
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  Speaker 1: into the recommendation's rabbit hole. All right, let me get
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: to the next recommendation here. Fishermen's Blues. Okay, Carrie, Carrie
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  Speaker 1: Fisher Fisherman's Blues by the water Boys water Boys, Yeah,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight album of the same name. Zeth Lundy,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: what's up with the water Boys? And why are they
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  Speaker 1: my new favorite band? What is this song? Is fucking tremendous,
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  Speaker 1: It's so good.
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  Speaker 5: Have you heard that new Dennis Hopper record they have?
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: It's like some song cycle about Dennis Hopper or something.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: Isn't that the water Boys?
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I think so. It's the water Boys have come up
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: so much recently and going as far back, talk about
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the nineties high school when I was like moving furniture
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: in Boston for Dan's van, and the Irish guys just
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: constantly trying to get me to listen to the water Boys,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and I never I never did.
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  Speaker 5: Was the dude from was the dude from World Party
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  Speaker 5: in that band? Originally?
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Right? They have a song called World Party? And I
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: don't know the answer to your question.
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  Speaker 5: I think he was who was the like, the the
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: main songwriter in that band.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember Mike Scott I believe is his name?
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  Speaker 5: Huh okay, Cool Water Boys are kind of a blind
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  Speaker 5: spot for me, honestly.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Big blind spot for me. I'm remedying that today. This song,
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  Speaker 1: Fisherman's Blues. I put it on this morning and I was,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I was, it's not even like a happy go lucky.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: It's not. It's not it's kind of like mid tempo.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: It just it's it's it's got rock and roll abandoned
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: at its core, like like Dylan in the seventies with
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: a band behind him, like the best version of that.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: That's what it reminded me of, like Street Legal or
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: something like that. It was so fucking good, and it
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: just I had a moment this morning, like a life
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: affirming moment that music will do to you every once
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: in a while, and it was this song and it
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: just it blew my mind. And you know, the refrain
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: is I want to be a fisher fisherman or something
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: like that. You know, I want to be a fucking fisherman.
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• 28:57
  Speaker 1: us this week in the Disgrace Land. After I already
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: talked about a ton of artists that we have covered
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: in the archive from the vault, Madonna, Tupac, Kurt and Courtney,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Chuck d Taylor, axel Iced Tea. Matt, as always, will
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: have the episode information for these stories in the show notes.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: If you want to get at him quick, He's got
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: you covered. Let's recap, shall we number one. This week's
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: full episode subject fifty cent. Our part two episode on
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: fifty cent is available right now. Number two next coming
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: up in the rewind slots, Rolling Stones Part one and two,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Number three next week our new episode on Jimmy Buffett.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Number four on Hollywood Land right now, Carrie Fisher number five,
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  Speaker 1: six one seven, nine oh sixty six sixty three eight.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: his history. So keep calling, keep texting with your answers
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: to this week's question of the week, or whatever the
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: hell else you want to talk about. Number six. Don't
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: forget discos. This isn't just content. It's a community, a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: community of the obsessed. No one cares about music, books,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: records of the crime and grime that ties them all together,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: like you do. And well that's a disgrace alright. On
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: May twenty fourth, in the year two thousand, in the
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: year two thousand was shot and nearly gunned down. This
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: is what America was listening to on that day, according
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  Speaker 1: Quit talking and start mixing