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Chuck & Buck 7-1 Hour 2: Headlines and Dan Wilson's hot seat, Williams love for the Hawks and where will LeBron land? · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: I told him the Colts a parachute down the line,
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Speaker 1: Julio and Randy's score and Colt Everson gets two runs
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Speaker 1: back for the.
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Speaker 2: Mariners that looked like hot dots from heaven dropping down
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Speaker 2: in the left field seventh three.
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Speaker 3: Hey, great morning to you. It is a Wednesday hump day.
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Speaker 3: It is Chuck and Ashley with you as we get
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Speaker 3: started with our number two here on this hump day.
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Speaker 3: A lot to cover. Reckless at Breakfast comes your way
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Speaker 3: a little bit later on this hour, Plus our Seahawks
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Speaker 3: one series recap as well coming up later on this hour,
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Speaker 3: Plus more on last night's victory over the Los Angeles
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Speaker 3: Angels eight to three. The final score Mariners TV with
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Speaker 3: the call Colt Emerson. That was one of three hits
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Speaker 3: for Colt on the day. That a little bit of
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Speaker 3: a bloop shot. And we're starting to get some of
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Speaker 3: those little bloop shots that we weren't getting earlier in
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Speaker 3: the year. It all averages out. Yeah, so we're not
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Speaker 3: going to apologize for getting them now. That's not even
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Speaker 3: a little bit, not one ounce. Thirteen hits for the
1:22
Speaker 3: team last night, no home runs. They had twelve singles,
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Speaker 3: which just doesn't happen for the Mariners all that frequently.
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Speaker 3: Maybe they're getting going offensively. What is that five runs,
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Speaker 3: six runs and eight runs in their last three games
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Speaker 3: after having gone thirteen consecutive with three runs or fewer.
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Speaker 4: Who knew we could get more than three?
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Speaker 3: That's fun thought it was a rule.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't think we had a chance.
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Speaker 3: Eight to three the final score last night, a big
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Speaker 3: five run explosion in the sixth, and then when the
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Speaker 3: Angels came back with three and the seventh, Mariners counter
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Speaker 3: in the bottom of the seventh with three of their own,
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Speaker 3: regain that five run lead and then close it out
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Speaker 3: final score of eight to three. So they are a
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Speaker 3: game over five hundred again at forty four and forty three.
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Speaker 3: They will not play today. They have a day off.
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Speaker 3: The World Cup takes over today in Seattle, and tonight
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Speaker 3: a lot of people will be watching the US play
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Speaker 3: at five o'clock. So Baseball decided why go up against that.
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Speaker 3: They're gonna give these two teams a day off in
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Speaker 3: the middle of the series, and then they will play
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Speaker 3: game three Thursday night, Thursday night. So more on that
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Speaker 3: a little bit later on World Cup US Bosnia tonight
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Speaker 3: at five o'clock. Brad Evans will join us at eight
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Speaker 3: o'clock to cover that Norway won yesterday, France won yesterday,
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Speaker 3: Mexico won yesterday. Mexico's making this thing look easy.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there was something weird though, So I put it
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Speaker 4: on TV last night and it was halftime, and then
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Speaker 4: there was the thunder or lightning delay and the game
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Speaker 4: just never came on the channel I had it on,
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Speaker 4: so I just was waiting. We were like, how is
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Speaker 4: this game not coming back yet? And then the next
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Speaker 4: thing we know, they're doing the national anthems and starting
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Speaker 4: all over. So somehow we missed the entire second half.
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Speaker 3: They never put it back on.
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Speaker 4: The channel to game the Ruins post or at least
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Speaker 4: on ours. I don't know what happened. We were so confused, really.
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Speaker 3: Base England versus Congo today at nine o'clock, Belgium versus
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Speaker 3: Senegal today at one o'clock, and then US Bosnia at five.
3:21
Speaker 3: NBA free agency is underway. Norman Powell just signed a
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Speaker 3: contract with the Chicago Bulls Man just going back to Illinois.
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Speaker 3: That's all just another Powell po home going back to Illinois.
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Speaker 3: Lebron said yesterday, I'm not going to be a Laker anymore.
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Speaker 3: You can move on without me, and Laker fans rejoice.
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Speaker 3: They really did reckless. At Breakfast comes your Way today,
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Speaker 3: we're going to talk about that. At seven forty five,
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Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard was traded for a boatload of trade compensation.
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Speaker 3: He is thirty five years old and has played more
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Speaker 3: than three quarters of a season twice in the last
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Speaker 3: ten years.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's what I can't understand. Why I was like, Okay,
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Speaker 4: how do you ever know he's gonna be healthy? I
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Speaker 4: wouldn't trade How.
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Speaker 3: Do you know he's gonna be healthy? How do you
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Speaker 3: know he's even gonna care tomorrow morning? He may. He's
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Speaker 3: the type of guy that could wake up after scoring
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Speaker 3: forty four points and a big win over the Knicks
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Speaker 3: on you know, Wednesday night national television basketball and just says,
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Speaker 3: you know, I'm not gonna come into work today, I'm
4:32
Speaker 3: gonna go backpacking in Luxembourg.
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Speaker 4: Didn't he not even want to be in Toronto the
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Speaker 4: first time he was there?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he loves it now. He said it's the
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Speaker 3: only place he would have Okay, he would even consider
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Speaker 3: a contract extension. That's that's part of why they gave
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Speaker 3: up so much for him, but it doesn't change the
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Speaker 3: fact that he's oft injured. He's thirty five years old
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Speaker 3: and he's unreliable. Yeah, even though he's a great player
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Speaker 3: and a champion, no question about it. But very strange
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Speaker 3: that Toronto. That's a go for it move like we've
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Speaker 3: rarely seen. Serena lost in her return to Wimbledon yesterday
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Speaker 3: but was very competitive, which I think is a victory
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Speaker 3: in and of itself. And yes, we will continue with
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Speaker 3: our Seahawks one series extended edition today the final final
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Speaker 3: episode with Hugh Millen today at nine o'clock as we
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Speaker 3: break down Nick Emon Warri. So there you go. Those
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Speaker 3: are your headlines. They are brought to you by Frost
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Speaker 3: Brewed Corp's Light Choose Chill, all right, So Mariners win
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Speaker 3: at eight to three is the final score, and good
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Speaker 3: for them. Thirteen hits unorthodox victory for them, twelve singles,
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Speaker 3: back to back innings of putting up crooked numbers, very
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Speaker 3: crooked numbers en route to the victory, and then had
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Speaker 3: a chance to sort of put feet up on the desk,
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Speaker 3: bring munos in just to get some work in the
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Speaker 3: ninth inning. So nice win. Hopefully there on track. Brian
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Speaker 3: Wu clearly has not lost it. He's still excellent. Whatever
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Speaker 3: is happening with him on the road I think is
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Speaker 3: completely between the years. Right now, he's getting psyched out
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Speaker 3: when he gives up undesirable traffic that he doesn't feel
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Speaker 3: earned its way on and then he ends up having
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Speaker 3: a bad inning. So there's nothing wrong structurally with Brian Wu.
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Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with his his stuff, and there's nothing
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Speaker 3: wrong with Brian Wu other than the fact that he's
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Speaker 3: got some sort of psychological hurdle he needs to clear
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Speaker 3: on the road. It's nice to see that. Andres Munos.
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Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with Andres Munjos. He wasn't getting enough work,
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Speaker 3: and it's very clear that now that they've started to
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Speaker 3: get him more work, now that they're not giving him
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Speaker 3: I mean, he could have had he could have had
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Speaker 3: to last night off. It wasn't a safe situation, and
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Speaker 3: then he would have been forced to have tonight off,
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Speaker 3: and then you don't ever know what's gonna happen. On Thursday,
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Speaker 3: we lose eleven to one. There's no reason could have
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Speaker 3: been on another week without Andres Muno's pitching, and so
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Speaker 3: the next time that he shows up on the mountain
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Speaker 3: gives up three runs. I wouldn't want to hear anybody
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Speaker 3: crack on andres munyos. It's very clear. He's made it clear.
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Speaker 3: We've made it clear he needs to pitch consistently. Not
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Speaker 3: every night, certainly, but he needs to pitch every no
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Speaker 3: more than every third day.
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Speaker 4: He can say every two to three, that's it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's when you're gonna get the best version
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Speaker 3: of him. So I think that's one less thing we've
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Speaker 3: got to be worried about. Mooney looks back on his
7:16
Speaker 3: game and that's fantastic. So a lot of things to
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Speaker 3: celebrate last night, but Ashley, I just can't help myself.
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Speaker 3: I think Dan Wilson screwed up the bullpen again last night.
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Speaker 3: So we so at least, you know, I'm just not reacting.
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Speaker 3: We lost. It's stand's full. Yeah, we won, it's Dan's fault.
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Speaker 4: Well and it was.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: This is two days in a row, two wins, and
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Speaker 4: you're questioning the decision. I questioned it yesterday. I'm curious
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Speaker 4: what your solution would have been last night.
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Speaker 3: And I admit that I'm nitpicking a little bit. I mean,
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Speaker 3: there's not one way to do this right. I'm just saying,
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Speaker 3: I just don't think, as I'm playing armchair manager, that
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Speaker 3: he's making the right decisions even in victories. Not even
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Speaker 3: the big picture decisions are the right decisions, which is
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Speaker 3: usually what cost him trouble, is that he's thinking more
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Speaker 3: big picture rather than what's most important in the moment.
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Speaker 3: And I'm sure that's Jerry and Justin's influence and a
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Speaker 3: lot of the rules that they've given him for how
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Speaker 3: to use his bullpen, and I just think that he's
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Speaker 3: like a piece of rope and a tugglwer with what
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Speaker 3: he feels he should do and what he wants to do,
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Speaker 3: and it ends up bluh, just puking all over in
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Speaker 3: the mud. He's playing tug Award. He's ending up in
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Speaker 3: the mud. Okay, even in victories, I think he's ending
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Speaker 3: up in the mud. And so here's what I would
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Speaker 3: have done differently last night. Okay, you're through six innings.
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Speaker 3: Brian Wu's had a fantastic bounce back game. Not that
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Speaker 3: this matters, but he's got this scoreless streak going on,
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Speaker 3: which is great. I mean, it's not what's important, but
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Speaker 3: it's great. And he ends up he's ninety pitches, and
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Speaker 3: that's usually when Dan takes starting pitchers out of the game.
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Speaker 3: If you finished the previous inning between eighty five and
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Speaker 3: ninety five pitches, he usually takes you out. That's how
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Speaker 3: he's operated. I think that's one of the rules from
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Speaker 3: on high that he subscribes to. So Brian Wu's at
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Speaker 3: ninety pitches at that point, Well, then the Mariners have
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Speaker 3: a five run bottom of the sixth. They saw forty
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Speaker 3: two pitches that inning, they saw a pitching change that inning. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: they sat on the bench. Brian Wu sat on the
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Speaker 3: bench for forty five minutes, and by the time it
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Speaker 3: was time to go back out defensively, you were up
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Speaker 3: five runs. I'm taking Brian Wu out of that game
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Speaker 3: on a chilly night. Let him finish on the highest
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Speaker 3: of high notes. My offense is built for me the
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Speaker 3: rare five run lead, and now I'm taking him out
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Speaker 3: of the game. I'm not gonna put him back in
9:55
Speaker 3: after resting for four what four Like the moment he
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Speaker 3: gave up a base runner, you were thinking about taking
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Speaker 3: him out, but you weren't committed to him getting through
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Speaker 3: the seventh, So why send him out there at all?
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Speaker 3: Just to try to steal an out or two, or
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Speaker 3: maybe he has a ten pitch inning, because you weren't
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Speaker 3: gonna you get uncomfortable the moment a starting pitcher goes
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Speaker 3: over one hundred pitches. So you normally take starters out
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Speaker 3: after not after eighty five to ninety five pitches, when
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Speaker 3: they've completed an inning. And then after a guy sits
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Speaker 3: for forty five minutes, we're gonna go back to him
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Speaker 3: on the mound. That was your perfect time to throw
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Speaker 3: a Mike Rutcker in the seventh up five. Now let's
10:41
Speaker 3: throw Rucker out there. Yeah, you don't necessarily have to
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Speaker 3: go to one of your high leverage guys because a
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Speaker 3: five run lead is not considered a high leverage situation.
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Speaker 3: Plus and this is very important to the equation. The
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Speaker 3: problem I had with Mike Rucker was that you used
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Speaker 3: him in the eighth on Sunday, and you would used
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Speaker 3: him when you didn't have Ferrer and had already used
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Speaker 3: Bizardo for one out and Spire, so you had no
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Speaker 3: safety nets left. Your only safety net left was Andres Munnos.
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Speaker 3: On Sunday last night, you had all your safety nets.
11:13
Speaker 3: Ferrer was even he was even warming up, so you
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Speaker 3: had Ferrer, you had Spire, you had Bizardo, and you
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Speaker 3: had Munos. So if you throw out Rucker in the seventh,
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Speaker 3: get Woo out of the game, throw Rucker in the seventh,
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Speaker 3: maybe we rebuild Rutger's confidence a little bit after that
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Speaker 3: ghastly outing on Sunday. And if he gets into any
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Speaker 3: trouble at all, I then I can go to one
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Speaker 3: of my four, probably Ferrer Frankly, to get me out
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Speaker 3: of the inning there in the seventh. And then I
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Speaker 3: still got Bizardo, Spire in the eighth, one of the two,
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Speaker 3: and Munos for the ninth if I need him. So
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Speaker 3: to me, that was the opportunity to use Rucker to
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Speaker 3: start the seventh inning, and if he got into any trouble,
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Speaker 3: you had all four of your safety nets available to you.
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Speaker 3: And I mean any trouble because you don't blow that game.
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Speaker 3: You don't blow that five run lead last night. So
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Speaker 3: I think that's mistake number one. Then let's are actually
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Speaker 3: one and two. It's mistake number three. You're bringing Bizardo
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Speaker 3: in in the middle of an inning. Again. He is
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Speaker 3: not even a good middle of the inning guy. He's
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Speaker 3: a very good reliever. He's very reliable I like him
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Speaker 3: a lot. The breakthrough he made a year ago was fantastic.
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Speaker 3: Shouldn't have been him on the mound against Springer, But
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Speaker 3: he made a breakthrough a year ago, and this year
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Speaker 3: he's been just as good. I don't think better as
12:36
Speaker 3: some people are characterizing, but just as good. But he's
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Speaker 3: not really a middle of the inning mop up guy.
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Speaker 3: Middle of the inning mop up guys. Guys that come
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Speaker 3: in with traffic and get you out of the inning
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Speaker 3: are guys that strike people out. He averages less than
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Speaker 3: a strikeout per inning or induce a ground ball. He
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Speaker 3: is in the lowest. He's in the bottom eleven percentile
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Speaker 3: of ground ball inducement in the entire sport. He's a
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Speaker 3: fly ball pitcher. That's the last guy that you bring in, Well,
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Speaker 3: not the last guy. There are a lot of worse guys,
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Speaker 3: but of the four at your disposal, he's the last
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Speaker 3: one I would choose to pitch you out of traffic. Now,
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Speaker 3: Matt Brash is the best. But we don't have Matt
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Speaker 3: Brash right now. So it's as if they just said, well,
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Speaker 3: we don't have Bizardo's the guy. But are you even
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Speaker 3: looking at the data? Are even looking at the numbers,
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Speaker 3: you seem you seem paralyzed by the number, right, I.
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Speaker 4: Was gonna say, which seems so odd considering that's their
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Speaker 4: big focus.
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Speaker 3: So I want Bizardo if I can't, I want my
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Speaker 3: relief pitchers to start with a clean inning. That's why
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Speaker 3: I think Rucker was the choice in the seventh. And
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Speaker 3: if he gets into any trouble, I'm bringing I got
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Speaker 3: all four of my safety nets to get him out,
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Speaker 3: and then I still have Bizarredo or Spire to work
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Speaker 3: from scratch in the eighth and then Munnos in the ninth.
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Speaker 3: So I don't even think that that is right. So
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Speaker 3: even in victories, it just feels like and then not
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Speaker 3: to mention, once again, you're not getting if you're struggling
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Speaker 3: getting through a series with bullpen and you're wasting Like
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Speaker 3: if WU would have gotten Josh Lowe out instead of
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Speaker 3: giving up the single, you were going to take him
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Speaker 3: out anyway because he was up to one hundred and
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Speaker 3: five pitches. So once again you're going to be trapesing
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Speaker 3: Bizardo out from the bullpen to get out one out,
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Speaker 3: and then again you've wasted resources, a valuable resource because
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Speaker 3: you weren't gonna let him pitch the very next night.
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Speaker 3: So even in victory, I just don't think he's got
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Speaker 3: his finger on. I'll give him this. At least he
14:46
Speaker 3: went to Munos in the ninth inning, because that's one
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Speaker 3: thing I've been preaching on this show quite regularly, so
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Speaker 3: at least that's soaked in.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 3: But I still don't think that he's managing this, even
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Speaker 3: in victory the way that you should. And frankly, I
15:03
Speaker 3: think that there's a lot of hypocrisy that's involved in it.
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Speaker 3: Stuff that you swore by just yesterday and now today
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Speaker 3: we don't live by that rule anymore. So I think
15:14
Speaker 3: he's caught in between. I don't think he's got a
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Speaker 3: real good feel for his bullpen management right now, and
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Speaker 3: even in victory, I don't think he's making the right decisions.
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Speaker 4: Well, and yeah, that's what I was gonna say. When
15:26
Speaker 4: you're you know, setting up all of these scenarios and
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Speaker 4: why we shouldn't have gone back out, I mean that
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Speaker 4: is one hundred percent you're not taking into account the
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Speaker 4: feel of the game and what's actually going on in
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Speaker 4: the game and how long WU sat out and should
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Speaker 4: does it make sense for him to go back in?
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Speaker 4: I mean those are all the things that the numbers
15:43
Speaker 4: aren't going to tell you, right, that's just what's going
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Speaker 4: on in the game, what is going on around me.
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Speaker 4: And it seems like he can either well, it doesn't
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Speaker 4: seem like he can do that. It just seems like
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Speaker 4: it's almost like a who do I have available? Okay,
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Speaker 4: eeny meenie mine much. Oh, I'm gonna go with Bizardo.
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Speaker 3: I think he's turned Bizardo into his guy to get
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Speaker 3: him out of the inning, which is the of the four,
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Speaker 3: the last guy that I would choose, because he's.
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Speaker 4: Not a strikeout right, No, and yeah, he's what your
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Speaker 4: numbers on his strikeouts and your numbers on his ground
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Speaker 4: balls those that's ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: That's suddenly what he's become for him. So that's what
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Speaker 3: we do. Now, that's what we do. Now, we send
16:20
Speaker 3: our starting pitcher out to try to steal another outer two,
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Speaker 3: even though he's by your own standards, maxed out his
16:28
Speaker 3: pitching limit, right, So we're gonna go send him out there.
16:32
Speaker 3: We know we're not gonna get him through the inning,
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Speaker 3: and yet we're gonna try to steal an outer or
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Speaker 3: two and then waste an out or two from bizarre Doo.
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Speaker 3: It just that does that does not make sense. No,
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Speaker 3: I mean, and I don't know if you saw the graphic,
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Speaker 3: and I don't know if it was done strategically by
16:52
Speaker 3: one Aaron Goldsmith, who I think questions Dan's pitching decisions
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Speaker 3: as much as I do. He's just not as loud
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Speaker 3: about it for obvious reasons. But they flashed up that
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Speaker 3: graphic number one in Baseball and fewest innings pitched out
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Speaker 3: of our bullpen, number one and all of baseball. And
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Speaker 3: yet I think we struggle more than any other team
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Speaker 3: to get through a series and trying to figure out
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Speaker 3: who pitches win and where and how much.
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Speaker 4: It sure seems like it seems like that's our biggest struggle.
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Speaker 4: How sides from up, the sides from offense?
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Speaker 3: How is that even possible? And it's because we're we're
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Speaker 3: acting like we're so thin in our bullpen when we're not,
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Speaker 3: and then we do we commit acts that fly in
17:37
Speaker 3: the face of fearing that we're thin. We're trying to
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Speaker 3: stealing out from Brian Wu. We're trying to then, bizarre Doo,
17:46
Speaker 3: we waste two outs from him that he could have
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Speaker 3: given us that night because we're going to use him
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Speaker 3: to get out of the inning, and we do that
17:52
Speaker 3: same thing with Spire and then we want to, well,
17:56
Speaker 3: we got to get Rucker used to this because right
17:58
Speaker 3: now he's our fifth most he's the guy we trust
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Speaker 3: fifth most on the team. And then that was a
18:04
Speaker 3: great opportunity to kind of reintroduce and he ended up
18:07
Speaker 3: pitching the eighth, walked the first guy, but got out
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Speaker 3: of the inning with a double play. But seventh was
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Speaker 3: the time to use him with the bases empty. Every
18:17
Speaker 3: pitcher wants to come in with the bases empty. They
18:19
Speaker 3: don't want to inherit somebody else's mess, and they don't
18:22
Speaker 3: want to blow Brian Wu's scoreless streak because they couldn't
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Speaker 3: get out of the inning. So I don't know, it
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Speaker 3: just feels to me like this is our biggest issue
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Speaker 3: on this baseball team. This is the way that we're acting,
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Speaker 3: This is the way we behave this is how he manages.
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Speaker 3: What could I do? I was out of pitchers, and
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Speaker 3: yet our relief pitchers have thrown the fewest innings. Our
18:47
Speaker 3: bullpen is I mean, there aren't a lot of teams
18:49
Speaker 3: out there that have four reliable guys. We have four
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Speaker 3: reliable guys, even without Brash, this should not be this difficult.
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Speaker 3: Even things like last night are making it more difficult
19:02
Speaker 3: to manage the very next game. It's as if we're
19:05
Speaker 3: always thinking about the big picture and not winning the game,
19:09
Speaker 3: but then the things that we do don't even address
19:12
Speaker 3: the big picture. I mean, I don't mean to like
19:17
Speaker 3: do a fifteen minute rant on bullpen management after two
19:21
Speaker 3: straight wins, But I also don't want to be the
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Speaker 3: guy that just picks it a scab after losses, right,
19:30
Speaker 3: I mean, to me, if.
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Speaker 4: It's still an issue, it should still be an issue.
19:33
Speaker 3: Two nights in a row. He's made the wrong decisions
19:35
Speaker 3: with his bullpen, even a night with George Kirby gave
19:38
Speaker 3: some eight innings. I don't think he did the right
19:40
Speaker 3: thing in the ninth.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he should have put in mood.
19:44
Speaker 3: Yeah. So anyway, I'm done ranting, Done ranting.
19:49
Speaker 4: I mean, everything you said it makes sense that the
19:54
Speaker 4: reasons of why he shouldn't have taken or put Wu
19:57
Speaker 4: back in, why he shouldn't have brought Bizardo in, all
19:59
Speaker 4: of that, and why Ruckers should have gone, all of
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Speaker 4: it makes sense. I don't understand why it seems so
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Speaker 4: complicated for the Mariners.
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Speaker 3: Well, they seem just like, what can we do? We're
20:09
Speaker 3: painted in the corner.
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Speaker 4: What it all seems everything you use, just laid out
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Speaker 4: right there, makes perfect sense.
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Speaker 3: Well I hope, I hope I'm making sense makes.
20:17
Speaker 4: Sense to me. So I don't know why it would
20:19
Speaker 4: be difficult for people whose job it is.
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Speaker 3: I don't either. Seahawks one Series recap comes your way next.
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Speaker 3: You gotta hear Greg Bell's breakdown of the Big Cat.
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Speaker 3: concluded on Friday. Yeah, we were ready to wrap it up.
21:05
Speaker 3: We had a big party and everything, sent everybody home
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Speaker 3: with gift baskets. We were ready to move on until
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven, and yet it dawned on Ashley and I.
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Speaker 3: How can we go through the Seahawks one series without
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Speaker 3: breaking down? Leonard Williams and nick Emon Worry. So we
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Speaker 3: decided to extend it to a couple more days this week,
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Speaker 3: but today is the final final day. Hugh Melon is
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Speaker 3: going to join us at nine o'clock to break down
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Speaker 3: nick Emon Warri because no one chose him in our
21:37
Speaker 3: month long Seahawks one series. And yesterday we had Greg
21:40
Speaker 3: Bell on our Seahawks Insider, so he doubled up for
21:43
Speaker 3: us as well during our Seahawks one series, so that
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Speaker 3: we made sure we talked about the big Cat, Leonard Williams,
21:50
Speaker 3: what an impact he has made on the Seattle Seahawks
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Speaker 3: since putting on that uniform three seasons ago, two and
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Speaker 3: a half seasons ago. And so we'll replay for you
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Speaker 3: the portion where I asked Greg not about what it's
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Speaker 3: meant to the Seahawks to have Leonard Williams, but I
22:09
Speaker 3: asked him what is being a Sea Hawk meant to
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Speaker 3: Leonard Williams and his legacy.
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Speaker 5: He's sad, you could say, a Hall of Fame type career.
22:17
Speaker 5: I know he doesn't have a first team All Pro selection,
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Speaker 5: which usually is the way into Canton, or at least
22:23
Speaker 5: the quickest front doorway in. But he's now playing twelve
22:27
Speaker 5: years on a defensive line two of his last I
22:30
Speaker 5: know Pro Bowls come as dime a dozen selections these days,
22:32
Speaker 5: but these two of his three career Pro Bowl selections
22:35
Speaker 5: have come in the last two years. He's the father
22:39
Speaker 5: of the He's like the dad of the locker room
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Speaker 5: and the defense. I know that Marcus Lawrence is older,
22:45
Speaker 5: but he's got six kids, so he's too busy being
22:47
Speaker 5: a dad at home. Lawrence is something of a father
22:51
Speaker 5: to everybody else, and he embraces that role. He's a
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Speaker 5: culture center. He's a guy that McDonald leans unheavily on
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Speaker 5: his veterans RAN's Leadership committee on deciding team issues and
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Speaker 5: what teams do and when they should travel, how much
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Speaker 5: they should practice, should they take a day off, should
23:09
Speaker 5: it be not in pads today. Leonnar Williams is the
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Speaker 5: sounding board.
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Speaker 4: Guy for that.
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Speaker 5: He's a commanding presence because of his longevity in the
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Speaker 5: league and his excellent and pedigree in the league. Guys
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Speaker 5: listen to him. He has that personality. He's a very
23:25
Speaker 5: integral piece to what McDonald does. McDonald's system, the locker
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Speaker 5: room culture. We talk about all the time that the
23:32
Speaker 5: Seahawks say they won the Super Bowl because of it.
23:34
Speaker 5: Doesn't work unless the players are empowered to be the
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Speaker 5: voice and to lead. Lena Williams is probably the chief,
23:41
Speaker 5: one of the chief leaders of those voices in the
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Speaker 5: locker room. I often don't know what Mike McDonald's defense
23:49
Speaker 5: would look like without him. I'm not sure what the
23:51
Speaker 5: culture would look like without him. And having said that,
23:55
Speaker 5: he turns just turned thirty two, going on thirty three,
23:58
Speaker 5: and he's into his dozen years in the league. His
24:02
Speaker 5: contract ends after this year. He has got a void
24:04
Speaker 5: year after the new deal they gave him a couple
24:05
Speaker 5: of years ago, so they have a decision something of
24:09
Speaker 5: a reckoning with him as he gets older. Do you
24:11
Speaker 5: keep them for another go around beyond this year. I
24:15
Speaker 5: think they're going to see how he holds up playing
24:18
Speaker 5: seventy three plus percent of the snaps like you did
24:20
Speaker 5: last year. He was the most played defensive lineman, even
24:24
Speaker 5: more than Lawrence and Reed and anybody and Murphy. At
24:29
Speaker 5: his age, I'm not sure he can play seventy three
24:31
Speaker 5: percent of the snaps again this year and still get
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Speaker 5: the same production. That's what they're going to try to do.
24:36
Speaker 5: But I know McDonald as it stands right now, would
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Speaker 5: love to have him as long as he can coach
24:42
Speaker 5: and as long as Williams as willing to play as
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Speaker 5: that bortant.
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Speaker 3: Greg Bell our Seahawks inside of joining us yesterday for
24:48
Speaker 3: our Seahawks One Series extended edition to breakdown Leonard Williams.
24:52
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe it's maybe it's a little hyperbole.
24:56
Speaker 3: Maybe you could go back all the way to the
24:58
Speaker 3: JSN draft pick. But I did make the statement with
25:02
Speaker 3: Greg yesterday, the most important thing that has happened that
25:07
Speaker 3: turned the Seahawks back into a champion to me was
25:10
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald, you know, adding Mike McDonald. But I think
25:14
Speaker 3: there's an argument that you could be made that the
25:17
Speaker 3: move in the right direction. Well, it's probably the draft
25:22
Speaker 3: with Witherspoon and JSN. That's probably when the great decisions began. Yeah, right, yeah,
25:30
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, that's probably where it began. But that
25:34
Speaker 3: championship sort of culture. When they traded for Leonard Williams
25:39
Speaker 3: two and a half years ago, it did seem to
25:42
Speaker 3: change because Pete was still here, Mike wasn't even here yet.
25:46
Speaker 3: But that draft and then that decision at the trading
25:49
Speaker 3: deadline to bring him in, and at the time I
25:51
Speaker 3: liked the move, but I didn't think it was going
25:53
Speaker 3: to be as impactful as it's been. I certainly didn't
25:56
Speaker 3: think getting a defensive tackle in his early thirties who
26:00
Speaker 3: had underachieved a little bit based on the hype that
26:04
Speaker 3: he came into the National Football League with im, well,
26:08
Speaker 3: we're getting a good player. I don't think we're getting
26:10
Speaker 3: anything beyond that.
26:11
Speaker 4: And what we've gotten is a great player, right who's
26:14
Speaker 4: actually still been kind of under celebrated. I think in
26:18
Speaker 4: the NFL, certainly.
26:19
Speaker 3: Was two years ago when he wasn't even named with
26:22
Speaker 3: the Pro Bowls, which is ridiculous. I got named the
26:25
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl two years ago and Leonard Williams didn't. But
26:29
Speaker 3: I mean, he was first team All Pro that year,
26:31
Speaker 3: he was candidate for Defensive Player of the Year that year,
26:36
Speaker 3: and then was very good. Maybe not as good, but
26:39
Speaker 3: that was such a high bar. It wasn't as good life,
26:41
Speaker 3: but the two and a half years of him, I mean,
26:43
Speaker 3: it's right at the heart of this transition from a
26:48
Speaker 3: team that was, you know, it's kind of stuck in
26:50
Speaker 3: mediocrity to in three short years, became world champions, and
26:56
Speaker 3: a lot of great moves have been made over that time,
26:59
Speaker 3: a lot of great moves. Mike McDonald's hiring the best. Yeah,
27:03
Speaker 3: but this is right up there. Yeah, And these moves
27:06
Speaker 3: that John's made at the trading deadline each of the
27:08
Speaker 3: last three years. And John's been making great moves of
27:11
Speaker 3: the trading deadline since I got here. I mean, John
27:14
Speaker 3: was making great moves at the trading deadline before it
27:16
Speaker 3: was before other teams even participated in the trading deadline.
27:21
Speaker 3: Now we're seeing teams from across the National Football League
27:23
Speaker 3: being very aggressive at the trading deadline. And I wonder
27:28
Speaker 3: if John's bothered by that, Like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
27:30
Speaker 3: no no, this was my little thing that I did.
27:33
Speaker 3: You guys didn't want to do that, Remember, you didn't
27:35
Speaker 3: want to sacrifice future assets to pick a player up
27:38
Speaker 3: mid season, introduce them to your system. That's my thing.
27:42
Speaker 3: It works for me. You can't steal from me. Don't
27:44
Speaker 3: you dare steal for me. So they're gonna even the
27:48
Speaker 3: playing field a little bit on him, because now teams
27:51
Speaker 3: understand how valuable that can be. But you're starting to see,
27:55
Speaker 3: as we Greg and I talked about yesterday, teams saving
27:58
Speaker 3: cap space. They would always spin up to the cap
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Speaker 3: space and have a hard time getting under and John
28:02
Speaker 3: always left himself cap room. Well, now other teams in
28:05
Speaker 3: the National Football Leaguer are starting to copy that a
28:08
Speaker 3: little bit, leave ourselves a little space in case we
28:11
Speaker 3: want to pick up a missing piece at the trading deadline.
28:14
Speaker 3: So John's gonna have more competition to be great at
28:17
Speaker 3: the trading deadline. But I think he's just got a
28:19
Speaker 3: leg up on everybody else. No one does it better
28:22
Speaker 3: than he does. And it goes before Leonard Williams. He
28:26
Speaker 3: was doing it before Leonard Williams. But this three year
28:29
Speaker 3: run of Williams, Jones, Shaheed Man, nobody's having the success
28:35
Speaker 3: at the trading deadline.
28:36
Speaker 4: Our guys having Yeah, And I think it's actually unfair
28:38
Speaker 4: that other teams are copying it, Like do your own thing,
28:41
Speaker 4: come up with your own ideas exactly. Yeah, what is
28:45
Speaker 4: this copycat leaves?
28:46
Speaker 2: Oh it is?
28:47
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, it's kind of okay.
28:48
Speaker 3: All right, all right, we're gonna get reckless at breakfast next,
28:53
Speaker 3: what would be the most interesting place for Lebron James
28:56
Speaker 3: to land Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna into the Lebron James waters here this morning. Where
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Speaker 3: would it be interesting that he land or it be
29:07
Speaker 3: most interesting that he land. Now that he is a
29:11
Speaker 3: free agent, he's gonna be ready to turn forty two.
29:13
Speaker 4: That's crazy that he's like, yeah, I still got more
29:16
Speaker 4: in me.
29:17
Speaker 3: He's definitely got more in me.
29:18
Speaker 4: He put on a fourth season in the NBA.
29:20
Speaker 3: He took a back seat to Luca and still was
29:23
Speaker 3: like twenty one, seven and six as averages this year,
29:26
Speaker 3: So he's still got a lot. He's still rated a
29:28
Speaker 3: top twenty player in the entire world, and that's after
29:32
Speaker 3: having taken a back seat to another player for the
29:35
Speaker 3: first time in his career. So he's got a lot
29:38
Speaker 3: left in this. Brian Winhorst and I know that Brian
29:41
Speaker 3: Wenthorse is his guy. That hasn't That isn't lost on me.
29:45
Speaker 3: But he said that the demand is through the roof
29:49
Speaker 3: of teams wanting Lebron to come play for them, particularly
29:54
Speaker 3: since Lebron has said now for the first time in
29:57
Speaker 3: his career that money will not be a factor. I'm
30:01
Speaker 3: going to go where I want to play and play
30:03
Speaker 3: with who I want to play with. That's gonna be
30:05
Speaker 3: the motivating factor. Finance will not get in the way.
30:08
Speaker 3: That's really big of you to say billionaire.
30:12
Speaker 4: All Right, Sony is not an object I will.
30:15
Speaker 3: Put I'm gonna I'm gonna pretty much put every single
30:18
Speaker 3: one of the teams in the NBA in a category.
30:22
Speaker 3: First of all, not going to He's not going to Brooklyn,
30:25
Speaker 3: not going to Utah, not going to Portland, not going
30:28
Speaker 3: to Sacramento, not going to Phoenix, not going to Memphis,
30:31
Speaker 3: not going to New Orleans, not going to Dallas, not
30:33
Speaker 3: going to Charlotte, not going to the Clippers, and all
30:36
Speaker 3: for the same reasons. Hey, there's no reason to keep
30:38
Speaker 3: playing if you're not going to try to add to
30:40
Speaker 3: your legacy and try to win another championship somewhere else.
30:43
Speaker 3: And none of those teams are ready, none of those
30:45
Speaker 3: teams are at Lebron James away from contending for a championship,
30:50
Speaker 3: So not going to the list is pretty long. I
30:54
Speaker 3: would also say there's a list of you can't go
30:57
Speaker 3: here in one of those teams Boston. Hey, Laker fans,
31:03
Speaker 3: if you want to have any kind of love with
31:05
Speaker 3: Laker fans, Yeah, and apparently you're leaving with a really
31:09
Speaker 3: strained relationship. But apparently he also wants his number retired there, Well,
31:14
Speaker 3: you want to get your number retired. Promise revoked is
31:19
Speaker 3: go from the Lakers to the Celtics overnight. So nope,
31:23
Speaker 3: I say, you can't go to Boston. You can't go
31:26
Speaker 3: to the Knicks. For a long time, the Knicks wanted
31:28
Speaker 3: you to take them to the Promised Land. Well another
31:31
Speaker 3: guy did it, Jalen Brunson did it. So there can
31:34
Speaker 3: only be one Moses.
31:35
Speaker 4: That's right.
31:36
Speaker 3: And Moses has already spoken, and he's six foot tall
31:39
Speaker 3: and four foot wide. So you can't go to the
31:43
Speaker 3: New York Knicks. You can't now just jump onto a
31:46
Speaker 3: championship bandwagon, say I'm here, New York, celebrate me, here
31:50
Speaker 3: to save you. I finally made it here. You've been
31:54
Speaker 3: waiting for twenty five years, and I'm here.
31:57
Speaker 4: You want to have a parade after a champion, I'll
32:00
Speaker 4: give you that. Oh wait, what you had that last year?
32:04
Speaker 3: I also say, because of I would assume your respect
32:08
Speaker 3: for Cleveland, you can't go to any teams in their division.
32:12
Speaker 3: You can't go to Detroit and try to win a
32:14
Speaker 3: championship against Cleveland. No, you can't go to Indiana. You
32:18
Speaker 3: can't go to Milwaukee, not that you would. And you
32:20
Speaker 3: can't go to Chicago, not that you would, so I say,
32:24
Speaker 3: you just can't go to any of those teams, and
32:27
Speaker 3: you can't go to the next and you can't go
32:28
Speaker 3: to the Celtics. Now a list of interesting teams. Denver Nuggets.
32:33
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'd like to see Yo Kitchen Lebron for
32:35
Speaker 3: a year. I'd like to see how that dynamic worked.
32:37
Speaker 3: That's pretty fascinating. They're looking for a shakeup right now,
32:40
Speaker 3: probably gonna move on from Aaron Gordon. Probably gonna do
32:43
Speaker 3: a couple of things in the offseason. If Lebron's not
32:46
Speaker 3: needing money and just wants to be a piece soul,
32:49
Speaker 3: that'd be pretty fascinating. I said, that's two of the
32:51
Speaker 3: best team players, at least on the court. Maybe not
32:55
Speaker 3: for headlines we've ever seen in the NBA. The Atlanta Hawks,
33:00
Speaker 3: they're not that far away. They gave the Knicks more
33:02
Speaker 3: trouble than anybody not the San Antonio Spurs in the
33:05
Speaker 3: playoffs this past year, and so they're not that far away.
33:09
Speaker 3: They're young and promising. What could a Lebron James do
33:12
Speaker 3: for that young team that doesn't know how to get
33:15
Speaker 3: over the hump? Maybe he's got a trick or two.
33:17
Speaker 3: The Orlando Magic. I'd love to see Poolo get some
33:21
Speaker 3: Lebron tutelage to kind of take him to the next level,
33:25
Speaker 3: and Lebron's already learned to take the back seat with Luca.
33:29
Speaker 3: I think he'd be a great asset for Powlo. I
33:32
Speaker 3: think that would be interesting Toronto. Does he want to
33:34
Speaker 3: play with Kawhi now that the Raptors are all in
33:37
Speaker 3: on trying to win? Now, that'd be interesting him and
33:40
Speaker 3: Scottie Barnes and Kawhi Leonard on the same team. Maybe Minnesota.
33:45
Speaker 3: I don't think Aunt is willing to give up any
33:48
Speaker 3: of his spotlight. I don't think that would work, but
33:51
Speaker 3: it would certainly be interesting if he went to the
33:53
Speaker 3: Timberwolves Oklahoma City Philadelphia. Maybe maybe good guard play a
34:04
Speaker 3: big man, if solid big man. If he stays healthy,
34:07
Speaker 3: they could use a Lebron James in Philadelphia. I think
34:10
Speaker 3: it would be interesting at the very least. Yeah, that
34:12
Speaker 3: would be an interesting matchup, but the most interesting the
34:15
Speaker 3: five most interesting I will rank in order number five
34:18
Speaker 3: Miami going back to Miami. It doesn't have the same
34:22
Speaker 3: heartfelt feeling of going back to Cleveland, but he does
34:26
Speaker 3: have a history there. He goes back to Miami, they
34:29
Speaker 3: are cap strapped, and yet they've gone for it with Giannis.
34:32
Speaker 3: If he's not looking for a big salary, what a
34:35
Speaker 3: fine addition to Bam and to Jannis Lebron would be
34:40
Speaker 3: at this stage in his career. So I find that
34:43
Speaker 3: the fifth most interesting landing spot for him, the fourth
34:46
Speaker 3: most interesting san Antonio really, I mean, I think they're
34:50
Speaker 3: gonna be able to do it without him. They don't
34:52
Speaker 3: need him. But in terms of like a final piece, again,
34:56
Speaker 3: somebody that has already said I don't need to be
34:58
Speaker 3: the number one. Wemby can be the number But maybe
35:01
Speaker 3: there are a couple veteran things. I mean, you wouldn't
35:04
Speaker 3: kick him out of bed for eating crackers if you're
35:05
Speaker 3: a San Antonio Spurs fan. For what he can bring
35:08
Speaker 3: to the table, I think that'd be fascinating. It It
35:11
Speaker 3: might seal the doom of Oklahoma City, especially if he
35:14
Speaker 3: takes very little for the next two years. Bron James
35:18
Speaker 3: added to the San Antonio Spurs might be an unbeatable force.
35:22
Speaker 3: Number three Cleveland Cavaliers still would be interesting. I mean,
35:26
Speaker 3: what a way to kind of round it all out,
35:29
Speaker 3: this wild crazy mister Toad's wild ride you've gone on
35:34
Speaker 3: and taken us through that. If you finished it off
35:37
Speaker 3: a third stint in Cleveland, they're not that far away.
35:41
Speaker 3: Maybe you could provide the difference to get them over
35:44
Speaker 3: the hump at least in the East. And then who
35:47
Speaker 3: knows what could happen in the NBA finals. That said,
35:51
Speaker 3: when they extend James Harden, that guy's never gonna win
35:54
Speaker 3: a championship. So I don't think it would work out.
35:59
Speaker 3: I don't think he would go there. But in terms
36:01
Speaker 3: of just like putting a bow on this career of
36:05
Speaker 3: Lebron James, I think Cleveland would be pretty interesting. Number two,
36:09
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say the Golden State Warriors, which is the
36:11
Speaker 3: biggest rumor out there. If all the old heads got
36:14
Speaker 3: together to try to stemy the new powerhouses in the NBA.
36:19
Speaker 3: A dream team of old farts would be rather interesting.
36:24
Speaker 3: Steph Lebron playing together once in the NBA and not
36:29
Speaker 3: just for Team USA at Anthony Davis. If you could
36:32
Speaker 3: work it out, that'd be interesting. And Draymond Green that
36:36
Speaker 3: would at least be very interesting. I don't think you'll
36:39
Speaker 3: get it done, but I think that would be very interesting.
36:41
Speaker 3: And then finally, maybe the most interesting place he could
36:44
Speaker 3: land the Washington Wizards. Oh you want to compare yourself
36:49
Speaker 3: to Michael Jordan. Oh gosh, put yourself ahead of him
36:54
Speaker 3: by going to Washington for the last two years of
36:56
Speaker 3: your career and actually making it look successful.
36:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, actually having to be decent and not something no
37:02
Speaker 4: one wants to remember.
37:03
Speaker 3: But Davonsa and Anthony Davis are there, and sar who
37:07
Speaker 3: is the number two overall pick a couple of years ago,
37:10
Speaker 3: and Trey Young. I mean, there's some actual talent there.
37:14
Speaker 3: Go to Washington and be a success in your last
37:17
Speaker 3: two years. That's one thing Michael Jordan has never.
37:21
Speaker 4: Done that is very interesting.
37:23
Speaker 3: I like that.
37:24
Speaker 4: I like that tactic.
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Speaker 3: All right, Brad Evans next on Sports Radio ninety three
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