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- 0:00What if Canada's climate targets are being reshaped, not just in
- 0:03Ottawa, but in Washington, D.C.?
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- 0:30Today's question is this: How can the policies of a foreign government change
- 0:35Canada's economic priorities and then change Canada's environmental policies?
- 0:39That's what we're gonna be talking about today because that is
- 0:42the story unfolding right now.
- 0:44We just got a recent release.
- 0:45On the day that I'm recording this, it is Canada Day, so happy
- 0:48Canada Day for those folks who are Canadian who are listening to this.
- 0:51Prime Minister Mark Carney just gave an acknowledgement.
- 0:54He sent out a video where he acknowledged that Canada is not on track to meet
- 0:57its twenty thirty climate targets.
- 0:59He's also said that emissions will likely be higher than previously
- 1:03projected over the next few years.
- 1:05Now, that matters because the bigger story here is not just
- 1:09that Canada may miss the target.
- 1:10The bigger story is why Canada's gonna miss the targets.
- 1:13And to be honest, when we're looking at targets, the original target
- 1:17was going to be, like, four hundred and thirty-some-odd megatons.
- 1:21It's gonna be up to six hundred megatons, which is about twenty-eight
- 1:24percent below two thousand five.
- 1:25So we're still gonna get below the amount with two thousand five, but just not as
- 1:30much as we wanted to in the first place.
- 1:32Which, look, it's disappointing as a Canadian, as a marine biologist.
- 1:36It's disappointing to hear that the country had to change its priorities.
- 1:39Because Canada's facing pressure from outside of its borders, especially
- 1:43down south from the United States.
- 1:44US tariffs, protectionist policies and a stronger push to bring manufacturing
- 1:49and investment back to the American economy are forcing Canada to
- 1:52rethink its own economic strategy.
- 1:55And when the economy shifts, climate policy often shifts with it.
- 1:59So today, we're gonna follow the chain.
- 2:01Foreign policy affects Canadian economic policy.
- 2:04Canadian economic policy affects environmental policy, and
- 2:08environmental policy affects the ocean.
- 2:10So let's start with what happened.
- 2:12Canada had a legal climate target to cut greenhouse gas emissions by
- 2:16forty to forty-five percent below two thousand five levels by twenty thirty.
- 2:20The federal government's own reporting says that is the goal.
- 2:23But recent projections show Canada is still not there.
- 2:26The parliamentary budget officer estimated Canada could be forty-nine
- 2:30to two hundred and two megatons above its twenty thirty target.
- 2:33Environment Canada's projection also show a significant gap.
- 2:37Now, Carney is signaling that Canada's path is changing.
- 2:40And you're probably wondering like, "Why is it changing so
- 2:42much?" Because Canada's economy is deeply tied to the United States.
- 2:45When the United States changes trade policy, Canada feels it pretty fast.
- 2:50If the US puts tariffs on steel, aluminum, autos, and other key sectors, Canadian
- 2:55industries become less competitive.
- 2:57If the US rolls back clean energy incentives or changes industrial rules,
- 3:01Canadian companies have to respond.
- 3:03If the US prioritizes domestic manufacturing and energy security,
- 3:07Canada has to decide whether to match that strategy, resist
- 3:10it, or find a different path.
- 3:12Carney's government appears to be choosing a more economic security-first approach.
- 3:16That means protecting jobs.
- 3:19That means supporting industries under pressure.
- 3:21That means accelerating major energy and infrastructure projects.
- 3:26And that can mean softening, delaying, or reworking Canadian policies
- 3:30that industry says are too costly in the current economic climate.
- 3:34That is the pivot.
- 3:35It is not simply that Canada forgot about climate change.
- 3:38It's more complicated than that.
- 3:40It is Canada is trying to respond to a changing global economy and
- 3:44climate policy is being adjusted as part of that response.
- 3:47Now let's talk about why this matters.
- 3:49The ocean does not care why emissions go up.
- 3:52It does not care if emissions rise because of domestic politics, US tariffs, oil
- 3:56and gas development, delayed EV rules, or weakened industrial carbon pricing.
- 4:01The ocean only responds to the physics.
- 4:04More greenhouse gases trap more heat.
- 4:06More heat means warmer oceans.
- 4:08Warmer oceans means stronger marine heatwaves, coral bleaching,
- 4:12shifting fish populations, melting sea ice, rising seas, and more
- 4:16stress on coastal communities.
- 4:18That is the ocean connection.
- 4:19This is not just a Canada story.
- 4:21This is a climate and ocean story.
- 4:23When governments delay emissions reductions, the consequences
- 4:26show up in ecosystems.
- 4:28They show up in fisheries.
- 4:29They show up in coastal flooding.
- 4:31They show up in Arctic change.
- 4:33They show up in the future of marine life.
- 4:35And this is where the story gets uncomfortable.
- 4:38Economic policy and environmental policy are often treated like separate
- 4:42issues, even though they're not.
- 4:43If a country is worried about trade, jobs, inflation, tariffs, and
- 4:46competitiveness, those concerns can change what climate policies survive.
- 4:51A carbon price can become politically vulnerable.
- 4:54An electric vehicle mandate can be delayed.
- 4:56An oil and gas emissions cap can become uncertain.
- 4:59Industrial rules can soften, and that's happened all in this last couple of years.
- 5:05And suddenly a country that still says it supports climate action is moving
- 5:08more slowly than the science requires.
- 5:11Now, this is the nuance.
- 5:12This is not a simple good guys versus bad guys type of story.
- 5:16Governments do have to think about jobs.
- 5:18They do have to think about affordability.
- 5:21They do have to think about trade.
- 5:23They do have to respond when a major trading partner changes the rules
- 5:27without telling anybody at the beginning.
- 5:29Canada cannot pretend the US economy does not matter.
- 5:33But here's the problem.
- 5:34Climate change does not pause while countries renegotiate trade relationships.
- 5:38The ocean does not wait for a better political moment.
- 5:41And emissions released today will keep affecting the planet for decades.
- 5:46So the real question is not whether Canada should care about the economy.
- 5:49Of course, it should.
- 5:51The real question is whether Canada can protect its economy without
- 5:54weakening the policies needed to protect climate and the ocean.
- 5:58That is the tension, and that's what you should be looking out for.
- 6:01First, watch for updated emissions modeling.
- 6:04If the government is changing climate policy, Canadians need
- 6:06to know the emissions impact.
- 6:08How many more megatons are expected?
- 6:10Which policies are being weakened?
- 6:12What replaces them?
- 6:13Second, watch the industrial carbon pricing system.
- 6:16This may sound boring, but it's one of the most important
- 6:19climate tools in Canada.
- 6:20It affects heavy industry, oil and gas, and electricity.
- 6:23If that system weakens too much, the twenty-thirty target
- 6:26gets even harder to reach.
- 6:28Third, watch oil and gas policy.
- 6:30If Canada expands energy exports while also promoting net zero by twenty-fifty,
- 6:34the government will need to explain how those two things fit together.
- 6:38That means methane rules, carbon capture, electrification, emissions
- 6:42caps, and actual accountability.
- 6:45And fourth, watch how often climate policy gets framed as an economic threat
- 6:49instead of an economic opportunity.
- 6:51We see this all the time because clean energy, clean transportation, building
- 6:55retrofits, grid expansion, and industrial carbonization are also economic policies.
- 7:00They create jobs too.
- 7:01They attract investment.
- 7:03They build resilience.
- 7:05So Canada has a choice.
- 7:07It can respond to foreign economic pressure by slowing climate action, or
- 7:11it can respond by building the kind of economy that is less vulnerable
- 7:15to fossil fuel volatility, trade shocks, and climate damage.
- 7:19The second path is harder, but is also the one that gives
- 7:22the ocean a fighting chance.
- 7:23Climate policy does not exist in a bubble.
- 7:27It is shaped by trade, politics, jobs, and power.
- 7:30But no matter where the pressure comes from, the ocean still pays
- 7:34the bill when the emissions go up.
- 7:36That's it for today's episode.
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- 8:17I'm your host, Andrew Lewin.
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