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No Finish Line Needed: Djura Leon’s Love for the Ride · Zone2Speak Podcast

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Welcome to Zone to Speak. Today, I have the pleasure of speaking with Dura Leon,
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the inspiring voice behind my cycling lifestyle on Instagram.
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At 53, Dura has built a strong presence in the cycling community,
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proving that age is just a number when it comes to pursuing an active and passionate life.
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From embracing both indoor and outdoor cycling to sharing her personal journey
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of fitness, motivation, and self-care, Dura's story is all about finding joy
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in movement without the pressure of strict goals.
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She's an advocate for cycling as a lifelong lifestyle and collaborates with
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brands, testing gear, and continuing to push her own limits.
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In this episode, I will dive into her journey, her thoughts on staying strong,
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healthy, and motivated as we age.
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Whether you are a seasonal cyclist or just getting started, Jira's approach
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is one that anyone can learn from.
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Let's get into it. Welcome to Zone to Speak. Hi, thank you.
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Thank you for inviting me. My pleasure. I'm so happy you made the time to be here.
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So what inspired you to start my cycling lifestyle? I had a normal Instagram account.
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Normal, like, you know, holiday pictures, but also with a lot of cycling.
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And yeah, I don't know. I thought, let's make an account with only cycling.
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I didn't expect it to, like, grow so much.
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I was making jokes sometimes like, yeah, I'm starting an account.
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You know, who knows? I will get some free clothes, you know, like this.
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And then, yeah, it suddenly...
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Yeah, it went pretty well. It boomed. Yeah, you're quite popular.
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And I really like, I'm a dentist assistant in my normal life,
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so that's not really like creative.
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And I like to edit photos and think about what to post, how to post.
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So it's also like I can put in my creativity like on the bike,
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but also on the social media. Yeah, makes sense. Yeah, I worked in the financial field most of my life.
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So when I had the idea of having the podcast, it's also like medicine to me,
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you know, it's my creative outlet. And so I relate to that. And I love your content.
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I found you on Instagram and your content is flawless. Not only like we get
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a glimpse into your life style, but the content is really good.
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It's like well thought, it's authentic.
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It's cool. It's really well done.
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So you are Dutch. So I guess you have cycling running in your veins.
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But what's your story? Where did your passion for cycling begin?
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Yeah, I was, yeah. But like what you say, the normal cycling was already like
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it's not the first thing, but almost the first thing we learned in Holland.
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So you know I had to go on my bike to school with wind and rain and I didn't enjoy this at all,
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but uh and I wasn't that sportive either I was yeah I had a boyfriend and I
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did some well roller not really roller skating yeah roller skating but then
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like ice skating but then on the road I don't know you know skating maybe just
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I think you said just skating Rollerblading, I don't know. Yeah, something like this.
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And I liked it, but yeah, not that much that I continued doing it.
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And then I had another boyfriend and he was a cyclist.
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And I was like, maybe I think it's nice maybe to go with you and see if I like it.
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And he had an older bike, so he made it like a rideable for me.
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And yeah I went with him and almost immediately well immediately I liked it
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so that's how it started actually and at that time I was smoking.
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And you know even when we go when we go
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for a longer ride I took a break and
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smoked a cigarette and now my gosh yeah exactly when I think about it it's hard
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to imagine for myself like what's this you know yeah well good I love those
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stories the more you are on the health way.
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I don't know how to say it correct, but the more you want to be more healthier.
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You know what I mean? When you start with something, it's like,
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hey, it doesn't fit in this. And it's also with alcohol.
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It's not that I don't drink, but I don't drink a lot. And you want to be healthier.
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I don't know. Yeah. Maybe it's an age thing also.
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Or you are more conscious about life.
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That it's still it's shorter the older you
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get and you want to be in good shape and you
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want to feel good not everybody thinks
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like this but yeah no
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but i i understand what you're saying and relate
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that you know once you start the health path you start cutting what it doesn't
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fit into your life anymore you just yeah and and and yeah a lot of us you would
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be nice if it was most of us But that as we age,
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we start seeing what really matters and feeling good. It's really important.
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And you have mentioned that you don't set strict goals in cycling.
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Why is that? Because when I start doing that, it is something that I have to do.
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I don't, now I need it just to feel good.
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But if you say to me, like you, you go for a goal, like I want to ride like
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300 kilometers, for example, I need to train for that or I have to train for that.
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And so I have to go on the bike and I don't want to, I want to go on the bike,
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but when I want to, if I have to, you understand what I'm saying? Yes, yes.
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It's the same like I was at the end of last year.
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I was almost cycled 10,000 kilometers and I was like, I don't mind,
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you know, 10,000 for who?
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And then I was so close. I'm like, well, I'm going to try. And I was on the
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swift ride and suddenly I was like, what am I doing? I'm not enjoying it.
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I want to reach this 10,000, but I'm not enjoying being on this bike now for
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like 70 kilometers and I need to do another 90.
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So I stopped and I was like, this is not what I want to do.
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And that's what's happening to me when I'm setting a goal.
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Yeah, yeah, no. I understand that because I guess you feel like it's an obligation
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and you have to do it and there's no fun in that.
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While some people feel the fun in setting those goals and having to do.
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Yeah, it's true. Or maybe they need that, you know?
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Yeah, it's true. And they like it. Yeah. Yeah.
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I'm more on your boat. I mean, I like setting goals and I like racing.
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But when it starts to be, I have to do this, I have to train today,
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then it's not fun. I think there is a difference between discipline and joy.
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I have discipline, yeah, that's true. It's different, yeah.
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For me, it's different. Yeah, likewise.
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And what does a typical week of cycling look like for you?
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We're talking about the 10,000 goal, which would be almost about 800 kilometers a month.
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What would your week look like? Do you have a training plan or you go by feel?
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It's not it's talking also about
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the goals you know of course sometimes I feel
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like I have to cycle because it's like a
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crazy addiction and if you
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do if you cycle like four times a week and the next week it's three times you
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feel I feel a bit like oh shit I wanted to do four you know and it feels it
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maybe feels even a little bit like a failure and in a small way so there there
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There is a pressure anyway, a little bit, of course.
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Oh my gosh, we put these pressures on ourselves, don't we? Yeah.
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But it's, you know, I feel better afterwards. So that's also,
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of course, why I'm doing it.
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But okay, I try to cycle four times a week and I want like one long ride or two long rides.
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And long is for me like 70, 80, 90 kilometers.
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And two short ones like 40 or 50. or yeah 40 is I think the shortest,
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In indoor, it's a bit different because, yeah, you probably know. Yeah.
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And it's not really a plan, but I try to ride also in my zone too,
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you know, and sometimes to do some interval.
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And I try also to keep it like fun to not always do the same.
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Yeah, something like that. And do you cross-train at all or do you focus on cycling?
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I do yoga once a week because I want to stay flexible.
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And i just started as well once a week you know
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i don't want to overdo it that i i stopped doing i'm really trying to be consistent
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this time so once a week it is yeah yeah yeah i i would love to do that more
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often as well but you know if there's no time no exactly if you do four times
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a week yoga you know i do need some sometimes to see friends or Exactly,
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work, husband,
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friend Exactly And then I do It doesn't You can give it the name strength training
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But I do a little bit with Dumbbells,
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Also try to do that Once a week Because they say it's also very important If
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you get older to do strength training But for me it's not so fun.
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Yeah it's more something like that i need to do
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besides the rest yeah and
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from yoga from yoga you get stronger as well it's also a
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bit a bit strength training i think depends which
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yoga you do but i agree like doesn't look
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like it but when you are holding a position you start to
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feel that lean mass burn yeah
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exactly so you are
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an ambassador for zwift and you
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have the beautiful indoor bicycle trainer so
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you use that on your when you're training indoors and
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how how is it tell me a little bit more about the
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indoor bike yeah i was very like
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honored that that i was approach for
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i was like no it's really oh wow and i
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think it looks like it looks already gorgeous you
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know i really felt like oh wow i have a new bike but it
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was just well just but it's just an indoor bike nobody
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will see it except for me or all
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the people on instagram but thousands of people on instagram
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are seeing it i was
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like i live in an upstairs how do
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you say upper upper apartment yeah upstairs so yeah so i had to if i go outside
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i need to go with my bike stairs and up and down and if it was dirty first i
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had to clean it before i had to take it off so now this bike is always there
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i can jump on it whenever i want and.
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Yeah i love it and it's like not so noisy.
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That's a plus. That's a big plus. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah,
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and the only thing is maybe the saddle, but you know, the saddle is a problem
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more often also with normal bikes.
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And I didn't take the effort to buy a new saddle.
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Oh, so you can change the saddle if you want. You know, I don't even really know.
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I thought about changing it, but I don't know if it's possible.
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Well you can let us know yeah yeah let us know and on your instagram stories yeah.
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No but i'm really really happy with it yes yeah i would love to have something
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like that i mean i'm lucky i have more than one bike so i keep one bike pretty
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much steady on my wahoo trainer,
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and i don't like to take it out it's just i know it's so simple but i don't
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know why i have this mental block that I'm like, I don't want to be taking it out and put it in back.
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Yeah. So I just leave it there. Yeah, but I think it's logical to have this
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mental block for these things.
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One day I'll get this with the bike.
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What are some of the most memorable rides or locations you have cycled?
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I mean, I've seen a lot of your local rides look beautiful.
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They are normal for me, of course.
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I think the most impressive environment where I ever cycled were the Dolomites.
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Wow, yeah. Italy never disappoints. No.
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It was last year. And yeah, it's like, I don't know.
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You know, I never went skiing or anything because some people know this from skiing.
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And so they know already that it's beautiful.
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But for me it was really like a new world yeah
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i have this story about i thought it would be
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nice to tell in the french alps you have to
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call the croix de fer and it's
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a pretty long one and we went up with
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a group and it was like i don't think five degrees it
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was raining but when you climb you know it's it's not
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so bad because you stay warm and everything
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and then we were
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at this point like we were cold and that we needed to go any further but i was
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like okay i'm done i'm going back here you know so we went back it was like
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the most horrible descent i ever had because i was so cold and i we i didn't
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have gloves with me because i thought oh you know it'll be okay.
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And i had not the dish breaks but the other before you know how do you say rim
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breaks rim In brakes, yeah.
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So I didn't have the power in my hands anymore because they were too cold to
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squeeze my... Brakes, yeah.
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Yeah, so I was really like... And at the end, I was like in the shower for half
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an hour and in bed to get warm. Try to warm up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So it's a beautiful environment. It was like a memorable ride, but not in a good way.
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Wow. Yeah, it's funny how...
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Those descents become very memorable. I have a couple of descents also ingrained
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in my memory because my fingers were locked.
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Yeah. Yeah, and I learned later how to break better on long descents.
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And one of them was on the French Alps.
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So I'm also a victim of the French Alps descent.
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Yeah, if it's cold, it's not nice. Yeah, and also the environment around Stelfio
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in Bormio in Italy, and of course, Mallorca is also nice.
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It's really nice, usually good weather as well, so beautiful, beautiful views.
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How about pros and cons from training indoor versus outdoors?
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Because I know you do a lot of both. Of course, I think we all prefer to be outdoors in nature.
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Yeah definitely but we try to make
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the indoor as pleasant as possible because of weather or
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because life is busy yeah for you
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what are the pros and cons of each well of course
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outside what you say it's like yeah that's
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why i cycle yeah but unfortunately
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i live in a country where like it's eight months pretty
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bad weather and if we're lucky we have two months on and
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we were lucky for these two months April and March or
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March and April were great but that
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aside what I what I think is
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a pro for me to do indoor is you
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don't have wind or I don't know the words in
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English when I go outside and I want to do for example a
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Z2 training it's not always
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possible because there's wind force five or six and I'm
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going my heartbeat is going up so I
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can do that for example better indoors but the
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same maybe with interval because you don't have traffic and yeah
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so also sometimes in in
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in summertime also when i don't have so much time i say like oh i go for one
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hour or 45 minutes and i do a training on swift and you know you have you you've
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done something and it feels good and doesn't take too much time and you you
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could train also your for For example.
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VO2 max training or your Z2 training.
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So I think that's a big pro for indoor.
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And that's, for me, more difficult outdoor. And I live next to the sea,
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so here it's almost always windy.
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So that's also why it's a bit hard to do some trainings outside.
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Yeah, very good point. Yeah, wind and traffic are the cons of the outside, unless it's tailwind.
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Yeah, I love tailwind.
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But yeah, there are a lot of pros of riding indoors, for sure.
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Oh, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, when I'm riding with my boyfriend,
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I'm always like going in the front when we have tailwind. And then I'm going
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very fast and he's always like, why don't you do this where we have headwinds?
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Yeah, if you were that easy, we would. Yeah.
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But I'm sorry, what did you want to ask? If you have ever considered doing some
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of endurance events like bikepacking or any other cycling challenge. No.
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No no no yeah i'm thinking like how do how do you how do they call this right
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in the dolomites the you have saw you have this right,
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it's 135 kilometer right
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yeah yeah i don't remember the name i forgot the name yeah
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but that's you know it's the same thing when i
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do that i need to train and i go there and for example it's like five degrees
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and it's raining or snowing i don't enjoy it yeah well you found what you like
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and that's good yeah that's good yeah yeah and well what what what maybe what
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i would like to do in my life,
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for sure one time, is going on a holiday with a bike.
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I think that would be... But maybe this will not be a road bike, but more, I don't know.
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A gravel bike. Yeah, something like that. You can do both. Yeah, yeah.
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I think that will be a really special experience because when you're on the
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bike, you come on places where you will never get by car.
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Absolutely, and you see so much more. Yeah. You see more details than going
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as fast as a car, and you see much more than walking because you can go further.
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I love taking my bike on holidays. Obviously, not the bike travel itself.
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Usually, it's a little bit nerve-wracking, but when you hand your bike bag to
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an airline, it's always a little bit stressful.
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But once you get to the destination, everything is in one piece. It's super, super nice.
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Yeah. yeah yeah yeah so let's talk
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a little bit about brands collaborations and
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gear you started collaborating with brands like whoop shocks zwift ghc helmets
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how did those partnerships come about well the whoop just on their site you
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can ask if you can be an affiliate affiliate yeah.
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So I filled in a form or some questions and they, how do you say it?
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Approved, yeah. Yeah, approved. I was saying approach, but approved me.
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I think that's nice. Nice.
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AGC helmets there is there is this shop
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Busy B-Bikes in the Netherlands and yeah I've
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seen Busy B-Bikes yeah yeah and they were are
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working with AGC and so they needed ambassadors for the helmet and I really
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love the helmet and yeah it looks good yeah and it's really it's really light
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it's yeah most helmets are light lately but it's really like you don't feel it on your head.
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Yeah i mean i have a few helmets different brands and
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and some i don't feel it like you
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said and some like leave a mark on my forehead and
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i hate that yeah yeah yeah it's so
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hard to know you know it's just like a saddle you have to buy it
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and it's even though you try it
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in a shop you can try better a helmet than a saddle in
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the shop you still don't know after you know
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a couple of hours on the bike how it's going no no that's also
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that's true yeah yeah and you have to also try with sunglasses
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because it has to you know feel good with
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both on i have a really small head
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so not all the sunglasses are are good on me sometimes i look like a fly i like
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that look though i love big because i don't want any any dust on in my eye so
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yeah i had to get used to these big ones because,
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I think I'm talking about 10 years ago, but then the glasses were smaller.
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That was like, in the beginning I was like, oh, these big ski sunglasses almost,
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you know? But now I'm used to it.
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I think the smaller ones are going to come back. Let's see. Yeah,
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everything's coming back.
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Everything from the 90s is coming back.
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What are some of your favorite pieces of
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cycling gear oh my god i think everything i'm really uh i i like the shoes i
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like the helmets the socks the clothing i yeah it's like a candy store if i
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if i'm going to a cycling shop,
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yeah so it's not not not one particular thing
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actually it's the whole look head to
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toe i always want everything every color i
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like helmet matching the shoes and yeah it's
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it's a bit of a sickness i think yeah to
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to want yeah to want and i lived in
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dubai for 10 years so everything most of everything i had was summer and now
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i'm in spain so now i'm i'm having to have more things because i need winter
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as well it's a good excuse yeah it's a good it's an expensive excuse to get
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yeah that is really true yeah,
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And speaking of, again, back to Zwift, that you collaborate with them,
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what is your favorite Zwift ride?
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Can't say Tempest Fugit, because everybody does that one.
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Guilty. That's funny, yeah, because it gives you the most kilometers where you ride for an hour.
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And I really choose that one quite often, to be honest.
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But when you look at the environment, I like the Scottish world, Scotland. Oh, nice.
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Yeah, it's really nice to the environment where you're riding.
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Cool. Have to check that out. Yeah, do.
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So jumping now to lifestyle and wellness, what role does nutrition play in your
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cycling and overall health?
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Also, that is something that I became more conscious of than when I started cycling.
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But my boyfriend then had diabetes since a child.
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So he learned me pretty in the beginning how important it is.
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So he was the one who was saying to me like, yeah, you need to eat a bar like
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every hour. You need to do this and that.
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Because my boyfriend now when he started cycling he went for a ride for three
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hours and he didn't get anything with him and then he was like tired I was like yeah of course,
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So now when we are cycling, I'm like, hey, eat your bar, eat your gel, eat your dish.
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Did he start cycling because of you? No, no, he was already cycling,
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but he doesn't cycle as much as I do.
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But it's nice because when you go on holiday, you can, of course...
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You can do it together, yeah. Yeah, but even, I think even when I,
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because of my account and you see other cyclists,
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you get even more aware about the food and the nutrition and drink and how to use it when you cycle.
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Because I also sometimes were
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a bit easy like with eating like I
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don't know no but then I when I was
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in Mallorca in April with also with Swift I really
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ate like every hour and if I
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yeah I was really focused on doing it well and I
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noticed that my ride like it was more than 100 kilometers that
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I felt pretty good after you know so then I know that I
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did it good for nutrition yeah you know it's not just during the ride it's afterwards
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as well yeah yeah yeah you know if you feel really destroyed of course some
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rides you're going to feel destroyed because you yeah it's really it's really
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hard in your limit but a lot of times you shouldn't feel that way most times.
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Yeah exactly because a lot to do with nutrition before I never took for example
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protein shake after but now I am not doing it always but when I have a really
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hard ride I certainly do it and also like with my breakfast I,
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wanted to put in touch words,
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when I eat breakfast and I know when I go for a ride now most of the time I
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take like oatmeal with protein powder, peanut butter and banana and like a big bowl so I know a good.
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Yeah I do the same and actually you're the
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one who introduced me to my favorite Proteino New Zest I love that love love
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love love love the vanilla taste is for me the favorite I like the chocolate
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too not on my oats but I mix with Greek yogurt and it's like a chocolate mousse yeah,
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that sounds nice good yeah because during the midweek I I'm a bit artistic with,
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this I think in the midweek I eat Greek yogurt and in the weekend I always do
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my oatmeal and porridge thing,
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yeah no you mix in the Greek yogurt like a dessert it's very yummy.
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Yeah I'm going to try that,
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And how do you balance cycling with the rest of your life?
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You know, you just mentioned you're a dentist assistant and you have a busy life.
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How do you balance everything? And then managing, obviously,
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the account, because I know it's not easy to create content and edit the content and choose the music.
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Yeah, I think I put too much time in it sometimes.
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Yeah, really. because you know yeah well let's start with with the i work four days a week,
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wednesday is my day off so nice midweek
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day off that must be so good yeah yeah
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yeah so i i always want
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to do a ride on wednesday of course and when it's good
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weather i want to do a bit longer one during my
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midweek i'm not yeah i'm
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also very when i go when i
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come home it's like half past four four
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thirty yeah and i jump on my swift
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or i go for a quick ride outside then i eat and we do we always walk after dinner
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my boyfriend and me every every dinner we do a walk nice and then it's like
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eight now seven thirty and yeah i can enjoy then like on the couch and just
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watching a bit of netflix and uh things Yeah.
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And then you have your social life, of course. But I'm a person that really
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needs to reload also on my own.
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Of course, I can get energy from having a good conversation with friends.
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But if I have to go to a birthday party with people that I don't know so well, it also costs me energy.
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So I really need to have my time for myself.
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But I noticed that for example when we're on
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the couch I'm on my phone and I'm like scrolling like
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Instagram and thinking about what post to make and
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maybe also there is a bit of a
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pressure sometimes like I
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have to post something and yeah that's
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that's that's what I feel a bit and sometimes I
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feel and that's maybe the same as
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with the goals in cycling and this pressure
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I put on myself like okay i want to grow and i
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want to yeah you know
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what i mean i think or you know what i want to say a bit yeah absolutely
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i understand what you're saying that yeah it's a
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balance of yeah am i enjoying what i'm doing
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because i have to keep this going yeah exactly like that because it's true i
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enjoy it too but yeah that's exactly what how you say it yeah yeah well but
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i think It's about doing it and testing it out and finding our own balance.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Life is all about balance. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And it's okay to take it back. It's okay to...
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Do more, you know, as long as we are in peace with this until we find what works. Yeah, exactly.
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And what advice would you give people who feel like it's too late to start cycling
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or an active lifestyle? I think it's never too late.
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No, it's really. And if we're talking about cycling, I think it's like the easiest
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way maybe even to start moving.
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Because it's not like when you start running and you are a bit older,
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you maybe get knee pain or, you know, other, how do you say it in English?
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Like your knees, your elbows, these are joints.
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So you, yeah, with cycling, there will not happen a lot with your joints.
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Well, you can get knee pain, of course, but you know what I mean.
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Yeah, no, cycling has no wear and tear unless you fall off the bike.
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Yeah, yeah, that's true.
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That's true. If you're older and you fall down, it's not so good maybe.
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No, no, I'm joking. But yeah, even walking, you know, when I walk after dinner,
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sometimes it's 10 minutes, sometimes half an hour, sometimes it's an hour.
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And we're always talking about how many, how we don't see many people walking.
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Most people, when they come from work, they go to eat and probably sit.
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Yeah, and of course, I don't have children and many people have children,
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so they have to do this first and before they are on the couch,
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they're probably like, oh, I want to be on the couch.
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If you start with a little walk, you know, I think this will be such a difference
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if you do that every day. Just a walk.
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Instead of sitting down or go to your work by bike instead of car,
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if it's possible, of course.
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But I think you can already put it in your life like in little steps.
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I think those are great tips. And I think if you can change.
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Like you said, the way you commute.
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I remember I worked in the past. They had such a cool program that if you rode
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your bike to work every day, they would give you money a month for like bike
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maintenance and stuff. but it was like something sizable, like $200 a month.
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I thought that was a really cool initiative. But anyway, it's just small steps, you know.
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And also, I have a dog, so sometimes I am also tired, and I just want to sit
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down, but I have to walk my dog. Yeah.
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And it's amazing how good you feel. Yeah.
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You just need to, you know, push yourself a little bit.
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Yeah, you have to push it.
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But now, you know, now I cannot imagine sitting on the couch after dinner, really.
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Then I'm like it's like it's kind of a habit now like after dinner,
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we don't even discuss it we just go yeah no it becomes second nature you know
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when it becomes a habit it becomes your lifestyle and that's it yeah and what
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I say you know I wasn't really that sportive,
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When I was a child, I did different kind of sports, but always like for two
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years, for half a year, for a year.
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And then I was, okay, this is not for me, you know.
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So when I really get into cycling, I was, I think, 36.
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And I would never expect, I mean, I know people from 20 years ago and they're like, Jura? What?
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You know, Jura was smoking and drinking and partying and everything, you know.
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And even now when I'm talking, people say to me, oh, yeah, you're like so sportive.
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I'm like, I'm so sportive. Oh, yeah.
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It's hard to believe. Yeah, but if I'm watching from their perspective, I'm like, yeah, I am.
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But it's a bit, yeah, it's a bit weird. But I think I'm happy that it happened
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to me, that I really enjoyed it.
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And it's become a kind of, it became an addiction.
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But I think it's a good one.
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Yeah and it must be nice to look back and see
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your evolution yeah yeah yeah and i
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hope uh that that people who are like
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even i mean i was then 35 but even
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if you're now 50 55 or whatever yeah just
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start i had a podcast with a
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gentleman i met in a ironman race and
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his first ironman or triathlon
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was at 70 years old wow so
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anyone can start anything at any age really really
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yeah wow that's really impressive yeah yeah
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you know and if you keep telling to yourself i'm too old for this i'm too old
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for this you are too old for it because yeah but then what are you doing for
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the rest of your life how many years you have like yeah you start to believe
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that you're too world for everything
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i agree yeah yeah it's all in your mind at the end of the day yeah,
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And what's next for you and my cycling lifestyle? Any exciting plans or projects
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on the horizon that you can share?
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Also, in this, I don't have really big plans, but I'm not really a planner, actually.
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No. Well, in some kind of things, I am, but not really with my future.
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Strange enough, maybe. That's okay. Go with the flow. So then,
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that's it. But we always plan for our summer holiday somewhere where we can cycle, of course.
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And we go to, my stepfather lives in a part of France where you can cycle very nice.
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It's not like the high altitude mountains, but it's really, it's like maybe
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a bit like Mallorca, this kind of.
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And we also, of course, go to the French Alps and I'm going to Girona for the
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first time in my life. Oh, that's where I'm based. Oh.
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We've got to get a coffee and go for a spin together. Yeah, because first of
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all, I'm really curious about Girona.
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I don't know, maybe because I also see it on Instagram so many times and everybody's
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going there for cycling, so I need to go there too.
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Oh, you'll love it. You'll love it. It's really nice. Maybe it's a bit warm in July and August.
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Yeah, well, but then you can ride to the coast and go for a quick swim and get
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back. Yeah, that's a good idea.
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But I will keep you posted when I will be there. Yeah, it would be amazing to
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meet up. Yeah, yeah, it would be.
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Well, thank you so much for your time. I'm so glad you're part of Zone to Speak.
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And I hope to see you in Girona soon.
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Yeah, it would be nice. And thank you very much. I really enjoyed the conversation.
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Me too. Thanks.
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