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The Next Round: Lane Kiffin’s LSU Roster Gamble, Sam Leavitt Hype & Clemson Showdown | Hour 2 · The Next Round

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  Speaker 1: Our number two of the next round rolling on.
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  Speaker 2: LSU has been the talking point of college football all
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  Speaker 2: summer long, mainly because of the roster Lane Kiffin built
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  Speaker 2: down at LSU after he took the job. It's one
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  Speaker 2: that is built to contend for the college football playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: And then recently, some other things. So let's go to
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  Speaker 2: the voice of LSU football, the guy who has his
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  Speaker 2: finger on the pulse of everything down in the bayou. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Matt Mascotta. He got on to us for our use
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  Speaker 2: of vowels when we talked about it on the show once.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was me. That was Jim. Jim gets
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  Speaker 2: names wrong all the time, Matt. It was not a
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  Speaker 2: slight at you. It's just Jim being Jim. Sorry.
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  Speaker 3: And you just got it wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's Jim's fault. It's the way he always says it.
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  Speaker 2: Will you please clear this up? What are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: It's easy.
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  Speaker 4: It's Moscona, like a breakfast scone. A lot of people
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  Speaker 4: just call me scone. Moscona.
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  Speaker 2: Moscona. You think that's an Alabama, Louisiana thing that we
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  Speaker 2: go ah and not ooh?
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  Speaker 4: No, I think it's just a human race that struggles
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  Speaker 4: with vowels thing. Cause I've dealt with it. No matter
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  Speaker 4: what corner of the globe I've been on, people just
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  Speaker 4: really struggled in vowels.
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  Speaker 1: Matt, before we get into it, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: I was just going to say, I enjoy your content
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  Speaker 2: all the time, especially post game on YouTube. Uh, don't
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  Speaker 2: tell me how much money you spend on cigars, but
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  Speaker 2: do you have a favorite brand of cigar that you smoke, uh,
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  Speaker 2: in your post game?
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  Speaker 4: Uh, I'll give a shout out, uh, to Bocock brothers. Um,
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  Speaker 4: They're a, uh, they're a group of, uh, of LSU alums.
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  Speaker 4: It's a Honduran tobacco and they're awesome. They actually did
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  Speaker 4: a great job marketing it. And if you, if you
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  Speaker 4: check out their website, they've actually done, um, royalty brand
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  Speaker 4: deals with tons of schools. I think they have, I'm
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  Speaker 4: pretty sure they have Alabama. I don't want to speak
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  Speaker 4: out of turn. Um, But a lot of the championships,
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  Speaker 4: for example, Florida won the basketball national championship. The officially
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  Speaker 4: licensed cigars they were smoking with the labels and everything
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  Speaker 4: were Bocut Brothers cigars. It's actually Indiana football this year.
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  Speaker 4: It's a pretty amazing... um, American success story with how
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  Speaker 4: they've built that brand. So yeah, Bocock brothers, check them out.
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  Speaker 4: If you haven't code Matt 15, if.
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  Speaker 1: Anybody wants to go bourbon, we've got a nice bourbon
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  Speaker 1: room up in our facility here that we've stocked over
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  Speaker 1: the last few years. And I see over your left
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  Speaker 1: shoulder there. What is the, uh, I see some Weller
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  Speaker 1: back there. Uh, what is your, your favorite bottle you've
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  Speaker 1: got on that shelf?
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  Speaker 4: My favorite bottle on the shelf would be the Four
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  Speaker 4: Roses Limited Edition, the Four Roses LE, which is their
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  Speaker 4: annual allocated release.
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  Speaker 3: I have the 2017, 2020, and 2024. That one never misses.
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  Speaker 3: If you can ever get a Four Roses LE, do it.
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  Speaker 2: Do you sip that after wins over Alabama? Is there
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  Speaker 2: a special occasion for that? There haven't been many of those.
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  Speaker 2: There haven't been many of those.
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't discriminate. It's just I believe– you ever
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  Speaker 4: seen that movie Sideways, the wine movie?
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  Speaker 1: Incredible, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So you know whenever at the end.
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  Speaker 4: Of the movie the dude's sitting in the booth at
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  Speaker 4: the diner drinking the wine out of the foam cup
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  Speaker 4: and he's like the– You don't save it for the
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  Speaker 4: special occasion. The special occasion is the day you open it.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I believe about all that. So anybody comes
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  Speaker 4: to my house, I don't take whatever you want.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care. Drink whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I've been saving a bottle for a special occasion, but
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  Speaker 1: I love that scene. He's got a cheeseburger. He's by
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  Speaker 1: himself and he's just knocking it out.
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  Speaker 2: That's so good. All right. Matt Moscona, you see on
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  Speaker 2: his shirt there, you can follow his work at Louisiana
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  Speaker 2: sports.net Louisiana sports.net. um locked on lsu uh after further
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  Speaker 2: review he has been killing it down in louisiana for
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  Speaker 2: a long time i ask you this obviously lsu has
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  Speaker 2: been in the center of a lot of news of
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  Speaker 2: late um do lsu fans gladly accept the villain role
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  Speaker 2: that it seems as though that the this team will
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  Speaker 2: have this year is that very popular among lsu fans
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah i think most um Not to be flippant, guys.
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  Speaker 4: I think most people here sincerely don't care how they're painted. Listen,
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  Speaker 4: Louisiana is a... Every place has its own uniqueness, but
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  Speaker 4: Louisiana is idiosyncratic even with respect to.
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  Speaker 3: The rest of the Gulf South.
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  Speaker 4: You can plop down in parts of rural Alabama or
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  Speaker 4: Mississippi or Georgia and you may not be able to
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  Speaker 4: tell where you are like you you're in the southern
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  Speaker 4: part of Louisiana it ain't a mistaken dog where you
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  Speaker 4: are and like people love the fact that it's different
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  Speaker 4: here and they embrace it so there's this thing people
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  Speaker 4: always say if you love Louisiana it'll love you back
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  Speaker 4: and it's true but the flip side of it is
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  Speaker 4: if you don't love Louisiana then bleep you it's sort
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  Speaker 4: of it's sort of the approach that people have so
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  Speaker 4: I I think wearing the black hat and being the villain,
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  Speaker 4: it's just not something that people really care about here.
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  Speaker 3: If that's what it is, it's what it is. I
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  Speaker 3: think they just want to win.
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  Speaker 1: So the perception right now, right or wrong, is Lane
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  Speaker 1: Kiffin's kind of dying on this hill with these three
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  Speaker 1: potential players, which is, I mean, it's a crazy story
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  Speaker 1: in itself. I heard this morning that it's still not
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  Speaker 1: known whether or not he's going to try to play
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  Speaker 1: these guys this weekend. I mean, where are we on that?
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  Speaker 4: So I guess let's just start start with like like
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  Speaker 4: a practical matter of what's possible. OK, so two players
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  Speaker 4: presently are working out with the team. It's junior to Halamaka,
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  Speaker 4: the edge from Notre Dame. And then Lane confirmed on
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  Speaker 4: Monday that Daquan Wright, the former Ole Miss tight end,
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  Speaker 4: was there at their Monday walkthrough. So remember, the NCAA
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  Speaker 4: has a mandatory, it's either a five to seven day
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  Speaker 4: acclimatization period before you can go full contact. So Junior
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  Speaker 4: has been with the team since last week. So if
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  Speaker 4: the players win in court on Thursday, in theory, if
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  Speaker 4: you follow the court order, Junior could play. It's a
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  Speaker 4: little more complex with Daquan because Monday going through that
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  Speaker 4: walkthrough is the first time he's done anything with the team.
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  Speaker 4: He's been in Baton Rouge, but that was the first
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  Speaker 4: time he was actually on the field or do anything
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  Speaker 4: with the team. Is it plausible to think you could
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  Speaker 4: actually have him in full pads on Sunday or on
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  Speaker 4: Saturday playing in a game? Probably not. But I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he was in this offense a year ago. So maybe
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  Speaker 4: I would bet against that. There's two other players. Actually,
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  Speaker 4: it's Xavier Harris, the defensive tackle from Ole Miss. And
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  Speaker 4: as I understand it, he is he is doing conditioning.
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  Speaker 4: So he is not, I would believe a possibility to
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  Speaker 4: play on, on Saturday. And then another name is Blake cotton,
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  Speaker 4: who we reported. He's a cornerback who spent last year
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  Speaker 4: at Utah. And he's also in Baton Rouge. He's part
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  Speaker 4: of the he's part of the case. That'll be heard Thursday.
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  Speaker 4: And so he would be a possibility as well to
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  Speaker 4: join the team. But again, it's unlikely that those guys
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  Speaker 4: play against Clemson, even if they win on Thursday. I
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  Speaker 4: would say the only one who would really have a
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  Speaker 4: strong chance of playing against Clemson would be Junior Tua Halamaka.
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  Speaker 2: When Alabama sort of went down a road like this
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  Speaker 2: with Charles Bediako in basketball, I didn't like it at all.
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  Speaker 2: And then I saw him on the court and I
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  Speaker 2: really didn't like it because he didn't help the team.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I thought he hurt the team a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: slowed him down. I guess the perception with a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people is that, boy, Lane has some holes to
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  Speaker 2: fill at the last moment. He needs these guys. But
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  Speaker 2: when I look at the roster, I don't think he
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  Speaker 2: needs these guys. How would these guys fit in? They
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be starters, would they?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think any would start.
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  Speaker 4: I think one thing I've learned about Lane covering him
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  Speaker 4: in the last nine months is he really is obsessed
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  Speaker 4: with the margins, right? And the things that he thinks
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  Speaker 4: could maybe make his team or his roster just even
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  Speaker 4: incrementally better. And that may be the difference between, you know,
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  Speaker 4: not between going eight and four and being undefeated, but
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  Speaker 4: the difference between, well, do you have the right depth
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  Speaker 4: so that in week 12, you know, you're able to
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  Speaker 4: get that extra first down in the fourth quarter, which
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  Speaker 4: lets you kick the game winning field goal. Maybe that's
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  Speaker 4: how his brain works. So when you look at the
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  Speaker 4: players that they're looking at, You know, Daquan Wright is
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  Speaker 4: a true prototype tight end.
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  Speaker 3: They don't have that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Trey Desgreen is a freak show pass catching
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  Speaker 4: tight end, but he's not going to blow anybody off
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  Speaker 4: the ball. You know, LSU, Lane Kiffin said it on Monday.
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  Speaker 4: The one position battle that's still up for grabs is
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  Speaker 4: defensive tackle. Well, a guy like Xavier Harris is a 6'8,
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  Speaker 4: 330-pound guy with four years.
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  Speaker 3: Of experience in the SEC.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Blake Cotton wouldn't be a starter, but if
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  Speaker 4: he ended up on the team, he'd probably end up
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  Speaker 4: as their number three corner. behind dj pickett and pj
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  Speaker 4: woodland so it's a really good depth piece there after
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  Speaker 4: they lost aiden anding in spring it would know spring
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  Speaker 4: portal they weren't able to replace him so uh you
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  Speaker 4: know and then junior to a halamaka certainly a rotational
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  Speaker 4: piece at edge so i don't think any of those
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  Speaker 4: guys are like or difference makers fellas like i don't
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  Speaker 4: think those are the ones that are you're not adding
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  Speaker 4: a future all-conference or all-american type player i guess maybe
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  Speaker 4: with daquan right he was second team all the cc
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  Speaker 4: last year but um but I think it's just the
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  Speaker 4: way Lane approaches it. He thinks maybe those are spots
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  Speaker 4: on his roster where they're thin and he has an
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to add experienced players. And if they're eligible, he's
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  Speaker 4: looking to do it. That's kind of, I think his approach.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Moscona is with us. You can follow Matt on
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  Speaker 2: social media at his name at Matt Moscona. Um, he
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  Speaker 2: just mentioned that position battle. He just dropped a podcast
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  Speaker 2: a few hours ago that talks more about that and
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  Speaker 2: has a Daquan Wright interview. Go get a link to
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  Speaker 2: it right there on his social media. And you can, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you can see more about that. Um, Lance mentioned yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: he heard someone, one of the 8 million college football
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  Speaker 2: analysts that are talking right now, say that Sam Levitt
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  Speaker 2: could be the.
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  Speaker 1: Most dynamic quarterback that Lane Kiffin has had.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Most dynamic quarterback Lane Kiffin has had, which, as
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  Speaker 2: we've talking well if that puts you in front of
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  Speaker 2: jackson dart and in front of trinidad chambliss that's pretty
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  Speaker 2: dang dynamic from the coaches and you've got great relationships
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  Speaker 2: at lsu from the people you talk to there is
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  Speaker 2: that lane kiffin's feeling about him is the best you
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  Speaker 2: can gather.
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  Speaker 4: Who he's got a lot to prove to pass the
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  Speaker 4: type of season Chambliss had last year. But if you're
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  Speaker 4: just looking at like physical skillset, I mean, guys, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if y'all have stood next to Trinidad, but
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he might be six feet tall.
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  Speaker 3: Probably not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, with Levitt, you're talking about a guy that
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  Speaker 4: does have a better physical skillset, right? Just size, arm strength,
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  Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff. Um, I, I was talking to, to, um, uh,
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  Speaker 4: to my buddy Brooks Austin over the film guy over
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  Speaker 4: at the sec media days. I don't know if y'all
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  Speaker 4: have ever talked to Brooks, but, uh, he said it best.
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  Speaker 4: He said, Sam Levitt's going to get an NFL GM
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  Speaker 4: fired one day because he's, because he's got, but in
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  Speaker 4: this offense, I think what he meant was in this offense,
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  Speaker 4: his skillset matches what lane wants to do to where
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  Speaker 4: he's going to be able to function at a very
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  Speaker 4: high level. He is going to put up big numbers
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  Speaker 4: because everyone does in lanes offense. Um, But the mistakes
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  Speaker 4: are the things that ultimately get you in trouble. And
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  Speaker 4: I think if Sam Leavitt can purge those mistakes out,
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  Speaker 4: he's got a chance to be really special. I have had, yes,
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  Speaker 4: about staff members. I mean, I have had staff members
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  Speaker 4: use adjectives like unbelievable, special. Sam's really been able to
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  Speaker 4: show off the arm talent and the ability so far
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  Speaker 4: in fall, which I think was encouraging because, guys, to
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  Speaker 4: be completely honest, he wasn't there. He was physically there
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  Speaker 4: in spring, but he couldn't participate because of the list, frankly.
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  Speaker 4: And the offense was bad in spring. I mean, it
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  Speaker 4: was Huson Longstreet and Landon Clark running the office. And
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  Speaker 4: there was one scrimmage Lane let us watch. And he
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  Speaker 4: gave us a ton of access in spring, like full practices,
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  Speaker 4: watch scrimmages in Tiger Stadium, hole nine. There was one
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  Speaker 4: scrimmage where the offense ran 10 series. They had five interceptions,
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  Speaker 4: a lost fumble, and a missed field goal.
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  Speaker 3: Like, it was bad.
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  Speaker 2: Bad, bad.
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  Speaker 4: And so to hear them kind of talking more positively
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  Speaker 4: and even glowingly about the offense, I think is probably
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  Speaker 4: attributed to the Sam coming along and coming into his
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  Speaker 4: own in this offense.
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  Speaker 1: We did a segment last week, crystal ball. If you
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  Speaker 1: could look at these SEC contenders and they do one thing,
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  Speaker 1: you can go on and pencil them in Atlanta to
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  Speaker 1: play for the SEC championship game. And we were talking
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  Speaker 1: about like we think Sam Levitt's going to be good.
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  Speaker 1: Blake Baker's defense is going to be good again. but
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  Speaker 1: between Durham and Harlem Berry, can they, can they identify
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  Speaker 1: like a thousand yard guy? Can they be more productive
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  Speaker 1: running the football? You look at Lane Kiffin, the last
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  Speaker 1: four years, Ole Miss, probably the best four year stretch
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  Speaker 1: in Ole Miss football history. They've had three of those
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  Speaker 1: four seasons, thousand yard rushers, been able to run the
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  Speaker 1: football at will. How do you see that coming along this,
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  Speaker 1: this year?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And we actually didn't mention the guy that's going to
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  Speaker 4: be the starting running back. Who's Dylan Jones. Um, That's
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  Speaker 4: one that is probably going to surprise most people around
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  Speaker 4: the sec. So Dylan Jones is a transfer from Wisconsin
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  Speaker 4: and he was the starter at Wisconsin at the beginning
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  Speaker 4: of last season. I believe he had a toe injury,
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  Speaker 4: maybe at like turf toe and cost him the rest
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  Speaker 4: of his season, but he emerged in spring and he
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  Speaker 4: is not relented. I mean, Dylan, Dylan Jones is going
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  Speaker 4: to be the starting running back. So I think between
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  Speaker 4: Jones and Barry, that's going to be your tandem. But
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  Speaker 4: you know the really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Thing, guys?
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  Speaker 4: Look, LSU, let's just call a spade a spade. They've
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  Speaker 4: been awful running the football the last two years. Last
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  Speaker 4: and second to last in the league. Kiffin came in.
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  Speaker 4: They completely remade the entire offensive line. They basically uprooted
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  Speaker 4: all the guys that were here, except for Braylon Moore
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  Speaker 4: and a few others that have lingered. But they went
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  Speaker 4: and added Jordan Seaton, the left tackle from Colorado. They
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  Speaker 4: added Alouba, who's a multi-year starter at Maryland, started his
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  Speaker 4: career at Georgia.
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 4: the offense is built to where the the hole is
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  Speaker 4: greater than the sum of the parts especially on the
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  Speaker 4: offensive line but they like Dylan Jones a lot and
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  Speaker 4: Harlan Berry has home run potential but the thing that's
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  Speaker 4: most interesting looking at you know I think maybe on
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  Speaker 4: the ancillary I knew this guys you'll probably do as
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  Speaker 4: well just as principal but you know whenever you start
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  Speaker 4: like looking into Lane Kiffin's offenses at Ole Miss to
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  Speaker 4: try to project what it'll look like at LSU now
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  Speaker 4: In his six seasons at Ole Miss, the quarterback was
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  Speaker 4: the leading rusher or second leading rusher on attempts all
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  Speaker 4: six seasons. So we can talk about the offensive line
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  Speaker 4: and we can talk about Dylan Jones and we can
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  Speaker 4: talk about Harlan Berry, but we got to also talk
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  Speaker 4: about what Sam Levitt is going to mean in this
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  Speaker 4: offense running the football because that is a dimension that
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  Speaker 4: LSU did not have the last two years with Garrett Nussmeyer.
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  Speaker 3: There was just no threat of the quarterback run at all.
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  Speaker 4: And that is the dimension that this offense will have
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  Speaker 4: that just was non-existent before.
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  Speaker 2: I was hosting the Saban show back in 2008 when
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  Speaker 2: Alabama went down to Baton Rouge for the first time.
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  Speaker 2: And I've told this to many people all the time
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  Speaker 2: that how much the Sabans love their time in Baton Rouge,
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  Speaker 2: still love Baton Rouge and the LSU people. And then
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  Speaker 2: that Saturday, that Friday and Saturday, it was just insanity.
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  Speaker 2: And I expect it to be times two for Lane
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  Speaker 2: going back to Oxford. Would you agree with that?
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  Speaker 4: That 08 game is the comp. I don't even know
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  Speaker 4: if it's a comp, but it's what I always point to.
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  Speaker 4: That was the most animus I've ever felt in a venue.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody loves their team, and everybody cheers hard, and there's
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  Speaker 4: lots of... There's rivalries, and generally there's heated rivalries, but
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  Speaker 4: you can always get along with people as well. That
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  Speaker 4: day was just... People were angry that day in Baton Rouge.
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  Speaker 4: Nick's first time back And remember, guys, Nick didn't leave
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  Speaker 4: LSU for Alabama. I mean, I know your audience knows this,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: but he went to the Dolphins. And people, I remember
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: when he came back to Baton Rouge the next year
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: with the Dolphins to play the Saints. Remember, the Saints
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: were displaced from Katrina. They played home games at Tiger Stadium.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: And Nick brought the Dolphins into Tiger Stadium to play
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: the Saints.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: And people were cheering for the Dolphins.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: People still love Nick.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: It was only when he went back to Alabama did
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: that flip, or when he went to Alabama did that flip.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: And that day was, people were just, that's the best
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: way to say it, they were just angry. It was
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: unlike anything I felt before in Tiger Stadium. And I
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: tend to agree. I think in Oxford, it should resemble,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: if not surpass that, especially the immediacy. And it's less
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: than 12 months later. It's the fact that Kiffin did
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: leave for a conference rival in the middle of a
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: playoff run. Then there's the Vanity Fair thing and everything
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: on top of it. And it's week three, so it's
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: not even like you have six, eight weeks of the
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: season to sort of get into it to see how
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: things are going.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: That game was in November. Obviously, that Alabama-LSU game you referenced.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's going to be a whole scene
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: in Oxford here in a few weeks.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Is there a room already in the football complex planning
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: out security measures and special different things for the trip
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: to Oxford?
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's got to be different than a normal
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: road trip, right?
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know if there is, I haven't seen that room,
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: but I think the team, the team typically stays, I
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: think in Tupelo, either Tupelo or Memphis, depending when they
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: go up there.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: So I don't think they're going to be looking to
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: spend a lot of time in Oxford proper.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to maybe bust in, play that
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: game and get out as quickly as they can.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: It could be one of those great 30 for thirties
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: in the future. They could be, there may be a
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: mock hotel that it looks like the team is staying
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: there with empty buses and everything.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: And they're really at a different place. That'll be fun.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: While we've been talking to Matt, Dabo Swinney has made
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: it official, finally, that Christopher Zina will be the starting
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: quarterback in that game. Matt, that is no surprise to anyone.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Dabo had not announced it yet, though. So you now
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: know the quarterback you'll be watching Saturday night.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: You know, I think, I don't know if y'all remember
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: that game last year at Clemson, the LSU Clemson game.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: But it finished 17 to 10.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: And we, we thought we were watching this great, you know,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: defensive battle with, with, you know, two top 10 teams.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: We're just two kind of very average seven and six
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: football teams were watching. But, um, but that LSU defense
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: a year ago went to Clemson and really suffocated that offense. And, um,
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: and I was with club Nick and Antonio Williams and, uh,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: TJ Moore, who's back in Wesco and all those guys
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: have four senior offensive linemen, uh, what an unenviable ask
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: for Christopher Vazina to make his first road start in
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Baton Rouge, the Kiffin opener, um, everything going on game
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: day there, prime time. I mean, if you've been to
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: tiger stadium before, it's a, it's a venue that has, um,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: that has its issues like every other venue they probably
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: built it too big you know at a time when
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: the home viewing experience was so good and the traffic
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: stinks and if it's hot people leave early or come
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: late or whatever but when you get the right ingredients
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: i still say it's as good a big game venue
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: as you'll find anywhere and saturday is going to be
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: one of those where all the ingredients mix together um
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: it wouldn't matter if lsu how about this shot at
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: southern cal It wouldn't matter if San Jose State was
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: coming in on Saturday.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: It would be peak Tiger Stadium.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: The fact that it's primetime game day here, Clemson, the
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: whole nine, Kiffin opener, it's really hard for me to
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: imagine Vazina with a new offensive line. Chad Morris, guys,
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Chad Morris hadn't called plays since the COVID year at Auburn.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: That's the last time Chad Morris... He wasn't even coaching
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: a year ago, and now he's the guy that's supposed
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: to save Dabo's offense.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Man, this.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: I don't think LSU is going undefeated. I don't even
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: know that they're going to the playoff. This is one
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: of those games, though, where I look and I go, man,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: it is really hard to see the Clemson side of this,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: how it could go well for Clemson Saturday night.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Dabo adds, freshman Taylor... Reynolds, who was in the battle
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: with Vazina, will likely play at LSU. So chance to
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: see two quarterbacks. A little package for him. Yeah, get
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: the old Tate Reynolds package. All right, Matt Moscona on
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: social media. That's where you follow him on Twitter. LouisianaSports.net.
• 20:07
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• 20:10
  Speaker 2: support Matt, especially you LSU fans. Matt, thank you very
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: much for the time. Great catching up with you.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Anytime, guys. Thanks for the invite. We'll see y'all soon.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: All right, buddy. Take care. Matt with us from down
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: in Louisiana talking some LSU Tigers.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
• 20:23
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  Speaker 2: next round. Okay, if you're new to the show, you know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I'd say all three of us, particularly Lance gets the reputation,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: but I'm just as bad as Lance. Technically, when it
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: comes to technology, I don't always.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Reach a very high bar. Is there something going on
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: with the X app on iPhones? Like, is there a
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: national something going on? Because my X app keeps disappearing
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: off of my home screen. Anything going on that I
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: should know about?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Let me check, see if mine is.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Is yours still on your home screen? Like, I try
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: to load it up and it disappears again.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Brooks, anything?
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I have not had that issue. Mine's right here. Same
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: place it always is.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Makes no sense. I load it up.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I use it. Then I lock, you.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Know, I close my screen. Boom. It disappears.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Leaves a blank space on my screen. My daughter would
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: be laughing at me now. Dad, you're so old.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: You're so old.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Do you have to go back to the app store
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and reload it?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: And reload it.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And then every time it disappears. I've only reloaded it
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: 22 times. Is that it?
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Since last night. So the app is deleting every time.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Do you have to log back in?
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably should turn the phone off and on, right? Maybe.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: That's what the tech guy would say.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Log out, log back in. That's the equivalent of unplugging.
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: How much space do you have left on your phone?
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: Is it deleting it because you don't have enough space
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: on your phone?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I bet Jim can answer that question.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Being occupied or something.
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: How do you clear that shit out? I got no idea.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: You have a lot of photos on your phone.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I do have a lot of photos
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: and videos just by what we do.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I'm hung up on the fact that iPhones will delete apps.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: To save space on his phone.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: For those who don't know, Tyler is the one green
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: text on the show.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: I am, and I'm proud.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Tyler is the green text. Tyler is the reason our
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: group texts are all screwed up. I've got 12,000.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: We can't name any of them.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: We can't name any of them because of Tyler. 12,639
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: pictures on my phone.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: See, and here's the thing, though.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of pictures.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing a lot of people don't realize.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: And managing social media, I figured this out because I
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: do a lot of work from my phone at times,
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: especially when I'm on the road. um, these apps track
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: and store your data onto your iPhone. So like currently
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: my Instagram app is consuming over six gigs of storage.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: That's what it sounds like a lot.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: And gigs is a lot, right?
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: For example, I, yeah, gigs is a lot.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: Uh, photos is half of that, which three gigs of photos,
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: which is videos included as a lot, but like, My
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: top three used apps are Instagram X and Spotify because
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: it's tracking and storing my data within the app.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Well, get rid of that stuff.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: How big is that drive you told me we had
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: that we store all our stuff on?
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Five terabytes.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Does that sound like a lot to you?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: It's a big boy. It's a terabyte. It sounds like
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: a dinosaur.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Brooks was like, I said something to Scott about us
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: running out of space. Brooks says, oh, Brownie, that drive
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Scott puts that stuff on is five terabytes. And I
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: was like, well, that sounds like a lot.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I believe one terabyte is.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: You can stop right there.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: It's 1,000 gigs.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: You can stop right there. It does not do anything
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: to me. I just said that sounds like a lot.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: It's only five terabytes. I'll run down to Best Buy
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and get us another one. Yeah, we need more terabytes.
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  Speaker 1: I'll do it.
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  Speaker 2: news conference.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Now, this is gathered media in Baton Rouge like we
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: do all over college football, all over the SEC. And
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin is actually given some holy water by a
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: media member. Watch how it unfolds. Are you part of this?
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Coach, the first bottle, Miss Terry showed you. That holy
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: water works miracles in Tiger Stadium. So you have one
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: holy water bottle for Tiger Stadium. And by the way,
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: she sprinkled on the east side. You'll be on the
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: west side. So I don't think there's ever been holy
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: water on the west side. And, of course, I had
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: to get you the road one like she had when
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: you guys came with Alabama here. And, of course, that
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: first one will get used in game three against your
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: former school. So from the media, we hope that– You
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: understand we appreciate the access you gave us. And from
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: a spiritual end, hope everything turns out okay for you.
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate it. That is accurate. I was right
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: there when she did it. So that's kind of a
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: crazy world we're in now. I'm on the other sideline.
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: So I remember walking by her twice when we were
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: 2-0 here. So I told Coach this summer, I said,
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: she needs to come, you know, for good luck and
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: walk with me down there. So I don't know if
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: she's coming to game day or not.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: But the Sabans will be there for game day. Holy
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: water on the sidelines. Apparently Terry did it a couple
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: of times for Alabama.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I would think it would be more witchcraft, more voodoo
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: for Lane.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: That was an awkward gift presentation. I just got to
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: say the whole speech and everything. I was cringing. I
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: was cringing for the poor guy that got the vote
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: for those. First of all, weird for the media to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: give the coach a gift. I'm just going to, I'm not,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I would imagine, I would imagine it wasn't mass media
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: that decided this. I think it was this guy. I think,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: let me just say this for the record. I think
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: the media takes themselves way too seriously, way too seriously.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I have never considered us media. I consider us in
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: the entertainment world. You have to determine whether we're entertaining
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: or not. We're not journalists. We're not journalists.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: We're entertainers.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: We're entertainers. Now you get to determine whether we're entertaining
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: or not. Some of you would say you're not entertainers. Okay.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: That's fine. Um, So I've never considered myself a member
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: of the media. And I think it's pretty clear. I
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: literally just wore a black mask and made a football pick.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: You are a member.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Of the media. You're not a member. You're not a journalist.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: That's true. I just pulled the curtain back.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not a journalist.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I thought that was the bandit.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. My apologies, guys. It's a Tuesday. My head's swimming.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: All right. I think the journalists take themselves way too seriously.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: But this is normally not what the journalists do. Give
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: the coach a gift and wish him the best of luck.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, how much exterior shit can be going on
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: in Baton Rouge before a game? I can't remember. You
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: guys help me out. I mean, was there ever a
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: circus like this coming into a season? Okay, let's make
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: that our question right here.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: The biggest... going into a year in college football. I'll
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: start that one year that SMU was under the gun
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: for the death penalty. Oh, I'll go even more recent.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Cam Newton.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: As that season went on, it wasn't going into the year.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: It wasn't early, but it became one.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: But it became one very... Because nobody thought it was
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: a threat. And then they were like, oh, damn. yeah
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: this team's undefeated here we go.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: About end of september on it was absolutely a circus
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: i mean you would turn you would tune into fine
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: bomb every day sports center every day and there was
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: something every day and i just had you know recently
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: had a chance to talk to gene chizik about that
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: and he was like oh there was something every day
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: there was somebody from um The athletic department, the president's office, compliance.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: There was somebody in my office every day between film
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: study and practices. I was always meeting with compliance. I
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: had to be exhausting. I'll tell you what I can remember.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: And this is before Alabama was as relevant as they
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: have been. So many may not realize what a circus
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: it was. But the offseason, I think it was after
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: his second offseason when Mike DuBose had the affair situation. Yeah.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: And there was some thought that he might get fired
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: in the offseason, but he kept his job. Then he
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: lost to Louisiana Tech, and the athletic director got fired.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: And a lot of people thought Mike DuBose was dead
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: man walking. And all they did was flip around from
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: that point on and win the SEC championship, and he
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: saved his job. I think the story actually broke at
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the beginning of that season. Was it? I'm trying to
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: remember the timeline. Because there was a news conference where
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: he was going to address it, especially called News Conference.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Because my wife and I just started dating. And she
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: was in a car accident that morning, I remember it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: And nobody called me because they knew I was at
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the most news conference.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: So it was.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Before the 99 season? I couldn't remember if it was
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: after his first season? No, it was the year after.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: It was the year that went very bad. It was
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: before the 2000 season. Oh, see, I thought it was
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: before the 99 season. Well, either way, that was a circus.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: It's irrelevant. That was a circus. Hugh Freeze, his first
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: game ever at Liberty was in a hospital bed.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Was that his first game? Yeah, it was. Who were
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: they coaching? And he gives them the thumbs up for
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: the press box.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: That was his first game.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Was that his very first game? I remember that on
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Twitter more than anything. I don't think the game was
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: on TV. I think he had to stream it. No,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I think it was on TV. Was it? Yeah.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: But I just.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Remember people were like, guys, I know you're not going
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: to believe this, but Hugh Freeze is legitimately coaching a
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: game from a hospital bed. They're like, only Hugh Freeze
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: would do this. And they had it turned so he
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: could see out of the press box. And it was
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: like for everybody to see. He's in the center. You
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: could get a shot on the TV cameras.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in the center of.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: The press box, and it was well lit. He wanted
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: everybody to see it.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a circus until we were in the moment.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: This has been traveling forever. The entire nine months.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Was he in? Did he have a headset on too?
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I think he had a headset on too. If you'll remember,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Tyler's got the photos. All right. So, look at him
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: do an interview with ESPN.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's real life.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Only Hugh Freeze would do this.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: It is ridiculous. Only Hugh Freeze would have done that.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the ESPN interview is the real one. Yeah, Lane
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: would do it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not real. the next one is though that
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: second one go to the second one right there that
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: was him post game i'm trying to remember who they
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: were playing um they lose the game.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: And uh louisiana lafayette well no that was the next
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: one oh okay yeah they were playing syracuse i.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Want to say i'll tell you right here but i
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: mean just yeah there you go they're playing syracuse they
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: get drilled and he waves.
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: At the.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: A ranked Syracuse team, by the way.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: How long ago was that? Syracuse was ranked.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Do you guys even remember what was wrong with him?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: He had a staph infection, did he not?
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: They said potentially life-threatening.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I just love the fact that it's so well lit
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: up there so everybody can see it. Like he didn't
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: turn the lights off so nobody pays attention to it.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: It's well lit. That was a TV shot right there.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: That's insanity.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you can top that one as
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: the season goes on. Yeah, I'm afraid that's going to
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: be tough to top.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, this belongs in, like, an episode of South Park.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, it really was crazy. I mean, if you
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: look at Hugh Freeze's career arc.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: It's wild.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: It really is. It is wild.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, the guy lived a life as a football coach, man. Okay,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: so the SEC has 48 out-of-conference games this year. 48
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: of them.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: 32 of them.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Are by-games, where it's not even in question the SEC–
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Should win every one of those. So 16 legit games.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: 16 legit games. And this came up on our show,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I think it was last week, because the way Josh
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Pate of the great Josh Pate Show had projected the
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: SEC standing, somebody said, well, the SEC would have to
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: go 45-3 in non-conference games. for his standing to even
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: be mathematical possible.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: But 13-3 seems realistic.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: It does, especially when you say, okay, 32 of these
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: are gimme games.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: So do you have the 16?
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I do. So let's do this. I'll call them out.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Not point spreads. Just straight up. Just straight up winners
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: or losers. Florida State and Alabama. Alabama just has one.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Florida State and Alabama. Watching Florida State Saturday, I actually
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: think they're worse this year than they were last year.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I think Alabama will be better overall. If Caleb DeBoer
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: loses that one, It's gloves off.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I think people watched a different game than we did
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: or they just didn't watch because I've heard people say
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Florida State looks improved.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I didn't see it.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think Florida State is very,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: very below middling. I think that they're going to be
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: a three- or four-win team. That is 1,000% Alabama has
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: to win that game. I'll go back. Arkansas at Utah.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Utah wins that game.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: That's a loss.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Keep in mind, that's the late game. Arkansas is already
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: complaining about the kick time.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to be a bad loss to them.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Baylor at Auburn.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I like Auburn to win. I think you guys nailed
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: it yesterday. Now, I think it's a little bit lower scoring,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I think, than both of you think. I think Auburn wins.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Baylor gets inside the 7.5. Is that where we are
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: right now at Hard Rock Bet? 7.5, somewhere in that neighborhood.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I had to score 27-20. You think it's a lower
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: score than that? Well, I think Auburn at 24. I
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: thought you said they would go over their point total.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 27-20 is kind of a low score in this matchup.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I kind of lean with you. I think Auburn finds
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: a way to win, but I think it's a one-possession game.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I'll go Auburn.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Not until the end of the year, but Florida State.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like Florida.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I do, too.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: By then, Mike Norvell knows that he's gone. They've got
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: two or three wins. They may not even be coaching
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: at that point. And by that point, Florida might have
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: all of this momentum where people are like, man, second
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: year is going to be special. Georgia Tech and Georgia.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Georgia easy. Yeah, Georgia easy. Louisville versus Kentucky. I will
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: take Louisville. Yeah, I would. Especially year one, Will Stein.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. NC State and Vandy. Well, boy, I tell you what,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: in the offseason, I would have told you this is
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: going to be tougher. Vandy right now looks like a
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: much better team than NC State.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I still think we're going to sleep on NC State
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: based on the performance last week. I think they're going
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: to get better. I think they win eight or nine games. Boy,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: that is a coin flip. I'm going to lean Vandy,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: but I don't feel great about it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I'll go Vandy. That game's in Nashville?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: It is in Nashville.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Probably the toughest one we've picked so far. Even tougher
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: than Baylor-Auburn, in my opinion. Arizona State, Texas A & M.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: A & M better win it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Ohio State, Texas.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go Texas. I mean, that is the
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: toughest one to pick.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go Texas, too.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Ohio State gets them, but I'll put
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: it down for you guys. Tennessee, Georgia Tech in Atlanta. Tennessee. Tennessee,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: that's a W.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Damn, boy, the SEC is rolling their back. Yes.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: How many losses have we got so far?
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: One.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: South Carolina, Clemson. Got two losses. Arkansas, Utah, Louisville, Kentucky.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I'm high on Clemson. I'm going to go.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Where is that game?
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: South Carolina, Clemson?
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Usually with me.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I know, but you didn't do it a minute ago.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: South Carolina, Clemson. I've done it every time. I think
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: you said Bandy and C-State. That's why I had to
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: ask where it was because I thought it was in Nashville.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I will say Clemson wins that game. I'll say Clemson.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I think it's a hell of a game, but I'll
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: go Clemson. I'm high on Clemson this year, as you
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: can tell. Oklahoma, Michigan. I like Oklahoma. Tough one for me.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I think Oklahoma is going to be down this year.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to play to the better defense.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I'll take Oklahoma. But, boy, you had to drag that
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: one out of me. Missouri, Kansas. It feels like Kansas'
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: window is closed, doesn't it? Mississippi State, Minnesota.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: In Minnesota.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: Tough.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a game Lebby's got to win, though.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I think Minnesota's a six-win team, but I don't think
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: they get this one. I'll take Mississippi State. You're going
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: to take State here, huh?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow. I was going to take Minnesota.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: That's one of those.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: We're split on that one.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: And then this opening weekend, Louisville, Ole Miss.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I'll take Ole Miss, but I don't feel good about it. Yeah,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: and Clemson, LSU.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: LSU.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: So that ended up being exactly the way Josh Pate
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: predicted it. Yeah, 13-3.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: All the work we did, Peyton probably didn't even do
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the work. He just threw it out there.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, don't you think Peyton probably did that the
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: same way we did? You could throw out the bye games.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: They're not going to lose those.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: That's right, 32 of them.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Although Scott thinks Youngstown State can keep it interesting.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I think we came to the Peyton number just
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: by the cumulative all of the SEC records, right? That's right.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Everybody said.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: With his SEC records, that means the SEC has to
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: go at least 45-3. So there's no single bye game.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think you've looked at all of them. There's
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: not one that worries you at all? Somebody's got Troy,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: and I think Troy's pretty darn good this year.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I forget who it is.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe Arkansas, maybe Missouri has Troy. I think it is Missouri.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that one, I almost put it on here,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Troy at Missouri. Okay.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: So that one would worry you a little i mean
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: you got to be buttoned up i mean troy's pretty
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: darn good this year yeah troy plays at missouri week
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: three they open with sam houston alabama state so we'll
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: know very little about troy until they go to missouri
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: now for the record missouri doesn't exactly play almost played
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: sam houston satan or upset alert against troy this weekend
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: how about that interesting spot for troy there they're uh
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Missouri is at Kansas and at state. Yep. The Lance
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: was gone the day we did the trap games. I
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: thought you mentioned that as a trap game, didn't you?
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I did, yeah. Because of where it falls. And because
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: of Troy being pretty darn good.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: And it's right between a road trip to Kansas and
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: a road trip to state. Interesting trap game. In my opinion,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Troy wins the Sun Belt this year.
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: That's a tough game for Missouri. I don't know what
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: the point spread would be, Lance, at Hard Rock Bet,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: if you could just.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, so in Columbia.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Missouri hosting Troy, a night game if that matters to you.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: 13 and a half.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Pretty good little football game. So it's under two touchdowns, yeah.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Pretty good little football game.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: All right, one more segment to go here on our
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: sport and state part of the show. Bobby Carpenter, the
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: great Ohio State and now college football analyst, pretty darn
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: good in the NFL, too, will join us in the
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: 12 o'clock hour on the next round part of the
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: show today, coming up a little bit later on. But
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: when we come back, Auburn's women's basketball team is doing
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: something that probably would get– I don't know, Clay Travis
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: on the road to scout something when we come back
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: on Sporting State. Isn't it crazy you can be so
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: good against other good teams and then end up losing
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: to teams that aren't as good? The Atlanta Braves are
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: 15-6 against the Dodgers, the Brewers, the Cubs, and the
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Phillies playoff teams.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: 15-6.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Yet there are something like one in four, one in
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: five against the Giants.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Baseball, weird sport.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: It is a weird sport.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: What a terrible year for Tony Vitello.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You think he regrets being there yet? Maybe not yet.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: You know, that season's such a grind. And when you
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: get into this time of year and you are, I
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: forgot how many games out they are right now. But basically,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: they've been dead man walking for the last couple of months.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's tough.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: It is kind of funny to think in the best
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: of scenarios, he would have played his last game at
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Tennessee two months ago, three months ago.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: And he's still coaching and they are going nowhere.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's got to be. Has he already lost
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: more games this year than he's lost in his Tennessee career?
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Probably in his career.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I've just I've got to pull.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: But to your point, Brown, he would have already cashed
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: that big check at Tennessee. That's right. I've done a
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: little recruiting. A little recruiting, but it's almost recruiting itself
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: at that point. Some portal work. He'd been on the
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: lake a lot. That's right. Up outside of Knoxville. He'd
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: been down to the Gulf Coast a lot.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: A lot.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Probably had a home down at the Gulf Coast by now. Instead,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: he's going road trip to road trip, and they are
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: going absolutely nowhere. 131 losses at Tennessee, so no. No.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, if you went like the last five years,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: six years maybe.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's lost more this year than he probably has
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: in the last six combined. He'll pass that 131 number
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: next year.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, just real quick, 54, 63, 73, 81. 83
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: losses since 2020. And he's at 131. 131 total.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: 131 total.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. They're way below 500, aren't they? Yeah, but I.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Think he'll get the– yeah, definitely get the 83 this year.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: So he's going to have more losses this year. than
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: he's had since COVID. Yeah, that's insane.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I think I would have stayed in college.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
• 42:37
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• 42:39
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• 42:44
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• 42:50
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• 42:54
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• 43:53
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• 43:56
  Speaker 2: high school, and I'm pretty sure I remember we did
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: this a couple of times. with the women's basketball team
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: with my fraternity down at the University of Montevallo. But
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Auburn Women's Basketball, Auburn Women's Basketball sent this out. Male
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: practice players wanted.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Big, bold letters.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: And they give you the contact information. The requirements is
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• 44:37
  Speaker 2: opposing teams. So basically, Auburn's women's basketball coaching staff, the
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: new staff down there, are trying to get male Auburn
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: students with some history of playing high school basketball together
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: to practice against the women's team.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a bad move. I mean,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: you're going to make your team much more physical. I mean,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: that's the one thing. We played the UAB women's team
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: years ago, our park league team. And I mean, the physicality,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: you can't replicate it just because, you know, men and
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: women are physically different. And I just, I think it
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: will ultimately, it almost reminds me of Tom Izzo. Like
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of people describe his practices as football practices.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons they were so dominant rebounding.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: This will do, if you can keep everybody healthy and
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: not frustrate the hell out of them, I think it
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: will make them tougher and better.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, I remember, I forget which coach it was, but
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I'd heard of them putting on you know, football gear
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: almost and working down in the paint on some drills.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: To your point, and I don't know if it was
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Izzo that.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Did that, but there have been times you put on
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: pads and almost go full contact down in the paint
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: to work on what it would be like in the game. But,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: you know, speed of the game, the physicality of the game.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: The size.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, the thought would be here that,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: you practice against men a lot, and then when you
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: play against female, the game's going to feel a little
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: bit slower to you. It's not going to be as physical,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: but to Lance's point, are you too physical? Do you
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: get so physical in the men's game or playing against
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the men that when you're playing against the women, now
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're too physical, you get a
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: lot of fouls. I guess that's the line you have
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: to walk there. It's the old, probably a bad analogy
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: here to use a bat in this reference, but Remember
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: when you would stay on the on-deck circle and you'd
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: have the donut to wait? Yeah, you'd swing that, and
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: then when you took the donut off.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: And get up to bat. Bat speed was a lot different. Yeah,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: bat was a lot lighter.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: So in the chat, Jack Will says, colleges do this
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: all over. I thought it was a known thing.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Always have done it. I did not know this.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Krusty said, I thought all women's teams eventually practice against guys.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: I guess they do. Brody says every women's team does this.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: So I guess this is more common than I realized.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: We were doing it back in the 80s. It was
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: volleyball at our high school. Coach Rushing. She thought it
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: was funny because volleyball is not physical, so we got
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: our eyes beat out. We couldn't pass, set, and spike
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: like they could, so they beat our eyes out. But
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: in women's basketball, it wasn't former high school athletes. It
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: was my fraternity team. You all played the Montevallo women's team? Yeah,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: we got blitzed pretty good, but Y'all got blitzed? We
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: did in the second half. Y'all ran out of gas?
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: We were not in shape. We were not in shape.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Did y'all have any players at all?
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: No, we were not that good. I mean, it was
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: our fraternity team. So for those that don't remember the
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: story about your team playing the UAB, this started back
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: when we were on terrestrial radio. And you basically said.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Well, there was a back and forth with Nancy Lieberman Klein.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: And I went downtown to play her one-on-one.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Play Nancy Lieberman Klein? Yeah.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: How old was she? She was in her 40s at
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: that point. And you played her one-on-one? No, we were
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: supposed to. And, of course, she couldn't find a gym
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: or something. Long story. But anyway, it became kind of
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: a going thing on air. And the UAB women's team
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: got a hold of it. And we met. And we
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: ended up playing. I'll never forget. Our guys were smoking heaters. Like,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: I've never been a smoker. But three of the guys
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: at halftime were just sweating their asses off smoking.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: It sounds like Dunaway's fraternity team.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, we smoked them. Now, I got lit up.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: They had one good player, right? Deanna Jackson.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: She was 6'2.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Best player in school history, I think. She went fourth
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: over on the WNBA draft. She had 28 on me.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, she was unbelievable. That was who you were guarding?
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: That was who I was.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You could not lock her down.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but everything else was just mismatch. I mean, the rebounds.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Did they foul you out any at all?
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: No, no.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I probably had 15 boards, though.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's, that's my old ass could go out
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: right now in the WNBA and get eight to 10 boards.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Good. I don't know, man.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: That, uh, Sophie, Sophie Cunningham is pretty aggressive and tall.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: She is.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: She is. So you got lit up.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, we got lit up. But we didn't foul out.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Did Spud call the game? Yeah, he did. Yeah, we
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: had an official out there. I mean, if you want
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: to call him one. But, no, I love Spud. He
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: was nice enough to come out and do it.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Shots fired at my former trivia partner.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I love Spud. I'm just saying you only had one
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: guy out there. But the physicality of the game is
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: just completely different.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe Clay will go– Scout these guys when
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: he's starting to expand to WNBA down at Auburn. He's
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: got a camp to go watch now.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: He can go do that.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Final thoughts before we get out of here. A legend
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: has been relieved of his duties at East Mississippi Community College.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Buddy Stevens has been let go after 17 years and
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: five national championships. I mean, we're right. We're into the
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: season now. And Preston Rice is going to take over
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: as the interim head coach. you just instantly think Buddy's
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: mouth finally got the end of it. It did.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Have you seen what he said? No.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Give me a second.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I'll pull it up. You know, that was when it
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: first came onto the scene, you know, because we had
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: that dip and, you know, I've never been a big reality.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: There's been a couple of things that I've watched on
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: reality TV, but when the first time we saw Last
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Chance U come into the fold, those seasons were so good,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: especially the first one.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: The first two years, but especially that very first year,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Because of this guy.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought Buddy Stevens was a dick.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, a complete dick.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: You're talking about public enemy number one. There was no
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: way I would have played for him. I'd watch him.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, hell, I'd walk out the door right
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: now on him. Completely unlikable on that show. I'd have
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: to stop. I'd get so mad. I'd stop the episode
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: and have to catch my breath before I'd turn it
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: back on again.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get so, yell at Buddy.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: So apparently the junior college people made a change to
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: their playoff system because they're like, well, I guess if
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: the FBS is going to do it, we got to
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: do it too, right? And what they changed was you
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: had to win your conference to get in. There were
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: no at-large bids or something like that, right? So one
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: of the lead guys that did it was East Mississippi
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Community College, the president there, and the Mississippi Association of
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Community Colleges. His quote to the Columbus Dispatch in Mississippi there, quote,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: they're idiots. It was really junkified, the way they decided
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: they were going to do it, and there wasn't a
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: lot of real thought. I was very surprised at how
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: it came out because there were actual people who have
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: doctorates that came up with this. And one of the
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: ones with the doctorates apparently walked in and said, you're fired. Yeah,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: so it was Buddy's president that was one of the
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: guys in charge of the new playoffs. Do you get
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: the word junkified a lot?
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Junkified, that's a new one on me. That sounds like
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: a Buddy Steven line.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Junkified. That was all junkified.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Don't you believe that somebody was waiting on him to say, like,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: even internally, he had a lot of enemies.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But, I mean, it's been a long time since
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: that show aired. You would have thought if he was
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: going to get fired, it would have been in the woods.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Ten years ago.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: It's been ten years since that show was on?
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ten years ago.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: That portion of it, yeah. Because the other... 2016. And
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: then they went to that... Jason Brown, you want to
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: talk about Unlikable, that guy. Oh, he's very popular on
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: podcasts now. He may be, but I don't like him.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: That guy. Somebody who comes on our show did a whole, oh,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Tyler Siskey. He and Tyler Siskey did it. AJ McCarron's
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: on there all the time. Oh, I'm sure he is.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: They can like him. I laughed my butt off watching
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: the Tyler or Siskey and Jason Brown. Yeah.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: By the way, anybody that thinks I've got a potty mouth,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: watch Jason Brown.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: The single greatest moment in the history of that show
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: was the Jason Brown year when he's gotten the job.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: And I mean, he's having to do 8 million different things, right?
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Because there's a Juco coach in Kansas and they're playing
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: a really good team the next day. And they, they
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: do an interview like, we haven't had a whole lot
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: of time to install our offense. He's in a hot
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: tub the night before the game with a cigar and
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: a bourbon. He goes, I ain't worried about the offense, man.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: I'm an offensive genius. I'll call the plays on the fly.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: And then he was like 49 to nothing. I loved it.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Of all the last chance use, that's the episode that
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: sticks out to me. It's him in that hot tub
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: smoking a cigar. I ain't worried about it, man. I'm
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: an offensive genius. I'll call the plays. In the game tomorrow,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: you just see the documentary crew. In the game tomorrow,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: shouldn't he be studying or anything?
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I ain't worried. I ain't worried. I'm an offensive genius.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I think he's living, in his opinion, his best life
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: And then it was like interception, touchdown for the other team,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and they cut to him. Yeah, I'm an offensive genius.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: I will tell you.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Then they go back to the game highlights. Yeah, 49-0.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: He didn't care back then, and he doesn't care now
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: what people think.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: He does not. I do wish, I assume you're like me,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: that occasionally there are things that you could watch again
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: for the first time without ever having the knowledge of
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: seeing it for the first time, because that first year
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: of Last Chance U.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Was really good. It was, but, you know, that's almost,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: that reality TV is like sports, and you kind of
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: know the way it's going to go, the outcome. I
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: know you know the outcome of movies, but it just
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: feels a little bit different, but I've never gone back
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: and watched a reality show, so maybe.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: I think the first year was good because it felt
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: like after that, everybody realized what made the cut for Netflix.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Once you saw it.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: We're playing up to the cameras. That's right. If I
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: act this way, I'll make the cut. Yeah, like I
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: feel like our friend Brittany was, you know, she became
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: more and more of a focal point of bigger stars
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: that went on. That's right. Because they were in year two,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: and she was very popular in year one. That's right.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: So in year two, they had to focus more on her.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: She was the cheese in the mousetrap.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, exactly. They're showing one woman the entire time,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: and it's our buddy Brittany.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: She was the only woman to live in Scuba, Mississippi,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: as far as I know. The cheese in the mousetrap. 20%
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: rule on the golf course. It's just I hate to
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: see it come to an end for Buddy Stephen, but
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: he won a lot of football games. Boy, did he.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Five national championships in 17 years, and now he'll watch
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: from the sidelines during this season. All right, two more
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: hours coming up. A quick break here. Thanks for being
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: with us on Sporting State. The next round brought to
• 54:23
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• 54:27
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• 54:29
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• 54:32
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• 54:36
  Speaker 2: God bless America.