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(EP: 018) Products to have on hand to help keep your hunting dog safe and healthy. · Bird Dogs and Big Game

• 0:06
  Tyce Erickson: Hey everyone, welcome to the bird dog podcast.
• 0:11
  Tyce Erickson: My name is Tyce Erickson and I will be your host today.
• 0:14
  Tyce Erickson: And I'm glad you guys are here with us and listening in today's episode.
• 0:21
  Tyce Erickson: I hope it'll help you guys out.
• 0:24
  Tyce Erickson: And, uh, I can share some information with you guys that will Be beneficial to you man.
• 0:31
  Tyce Erickson: I like that song that just gets me pumped up.
• 0:33
  Tyce Erickson: So Anyhow, uh, it's been a little while since we've jumped on here and done a podcast just been busy with uh training and doing a little hunting, um Getting these dogs out and enjoying this time of year when we really get to put these Dogs to work.
• 0:50
  Tyce Erickson: Um, I love this time of year.
• 0:52
  Tyce Erickson: Um, my analogy is, you know, it's like football.
• 0:55
  Tyce Erickson: You train all summer and you're doing all these drills, you're doing all this work.
• 1:00
  Tyce Erickson: And now we're, we're putting the players in the game.
• 1:05
  Tyce Erickson: We're putting them up against the elements.
• 1:06
  Tyce Erickson: We're putting them up against different scenarios and setups and we're seeing how they play the game.
• 1:13
  Tyce Erickson: So.
• 1:15
  Tyce Erickson: Uh, it's fun.
• 1:17
  Tyce Erickson: I love working young dogs.
• 1:19
  Tyce Erickson: I love working, um, old dogs, young dogs.
• 1:22
  Tyce Erickson: Obviously it does, it's awesome when they do a good job and the training that you've done pulls through.
• 1:30
  Tyce Erickson: And it's also kind of fun to work through challenges with them.
• 1:34
  Tyce Erickson: So enjoy the journey.
• 1:36
  Tyce Erickson: Don't, uh, stress out if your dog's not doing everything exactly the way you thought it would do and go back in the yard, work the dog, work through those things, and then get them back out in the field and put it to the test.
• 1:52
  Tyce Erickson: So.
• 1:53
  Tyce Erickson: Just stay positive and have fun.
• 1:57
  Tyce Erickson: Um, in today's episode, uh, this podcast, I wanted to talk about, um, some things that could be beneficial to you guys that I've learned over the years.
• 2:06
  Tyce Erickson: And this actually comes to, uh, the health of dogs and, Treating dogs when there's issues and, and stuff like that.
• 2:17
  Tyce Erickson: So, um, I'm just going to dive in.
• 2:19
  Tyce Erickson: I don't know how long this is going to go.
• 2:21
  Tyce Erickson: We'll see what my brain can come up with as we're talking about these things and kind of thinking about my past experiences, but first let's talk about.
• 2:31
  Tyce Erickson: some staples I would recommend having around the house, um, or in the field or in your car or wherever you train.
• 2:39
  Tyce Erickson: But, uh, one of the things I would have first is some bandage.
• 2:44
  Tyce Erickson: Um, some of the bandage that's the adhesive bandage, you guys have probably seen it.
• 2:49
  Tyce Erickson: People will wrap animals legs.
• 2:51
  Tyce Erickson: Maybe if you get an injury at the vet's office or, you know, or you'll see him on horses, things like that, but take, have some.
• 3:02
  Tyce Erickson: adhesive bandage on hand.
• 3:04
  Tyce Erickson: Wouldn't hurt to also have some gauze on hand that you can, if the dog is in the brush and it happens to, you know, get a wound of some sort, you can put that gauze on there.
• 3:18
  Tyce Erickson: Wrap that up nice and tight to keep debris or stuff from getting in there.
• 3:24
  Tyce Erickson: And then you can get that dog to the vet's office and, and get it, get some help with it.
• 3:31
  Tyce Erickson: Um, something also I've added to.
• 3:34
  Tyce Erickson: My first aid kit, I guess you could say, or having on hand is a stapler.
• 3:39
  Tyce Erickson: Um, you can get on Amazon or online, some of these places, and actually find staplers that are pretty inexpensive.
• 3:51
  Tyce Erickson: Where if you get a big enough wound or a deep enough wound, you can actually have someone help you hold it.
• 3:57
  Tyce Erickson: and, uh, staple that wound together.
• 4:01
  Tyce Erickson: Um, and so debris and stuff is not getting in that.
• 4:04
  Tyce Erickson: I would recommend having some iodine also on hand.
• 4:07
  Tyce Erickson: Um, you can dilute that iodine down and flush the wound, staple it back together, keep an eye on the wound, and, and Dogs are pretty tough animals.
• 4:21
  Tyce Erickson: Generally, they're going to make a pretty, the recover, the recoveries are generally pretty quick.
• 4:29
  Tyce Erickson: They do well, as long as you keep the things clean and also avoid infection.
• 4:35
  Tyce Erickson: Now, also, I'm going to start with this.
• 4:36
  Tyce Erickson: I am not a veterinarian.
• 4:38
  Tyce Erickson: Don't claim to be a veterinarian.
• 4:40
  Tyce Erickson: So take these things I recommend with a grain of salt.
• 4:43
  Tyce Erickson: Um, these are things I've just used or I've seen that seems to work.
• 4:48
  Tyce Erickson: Um, but I do not claim, um, to be a veterinarian.
• 4:52
  Tyce Erickson: And so just do your best with it.
• 4:54
  Tyce Erickson: But hopefully these will help you out.
• 4:56
  Tyce Erickson: I don't think it hurts to have some of these things on hand.
• 5:01
  Tyce Erickson: These days, veterinarians can be hard to get into.
• 5:05
  Tyce Erickson: I mean, I've had dogs that get an injury and I say, Hey, when can I get them in?
• 5:09
  Tyce Erickson: And they say in a week or two.
• 5:12
  Tyce Erickson: Or, uh, yeah, you can come after hours and it's going to be double or triple the amount, or you can go to an emergency clinic and it's going to be that much more money.
• 5:23
  Tyce Erickson: So sometimes we need to take care of these dogs right away.
• 5:27
  Tyce Erickson: We need to get them in quick and we don't have time to mess around with.
• 5:32
  Tyce Erickson: Scheduling an appointment with the vet.
• 5:33
  Tyce Erickson: So some of these things could necessarily either save your dog's life, help out with infection, um, which obviously ultimately it could save a dog's life.
• 5:42
  Tyce Erickson: So, um, iodine I'd recommend having on hand a stapler.
• 5:47
  Tyce Erickson: I'd recommend having on hand a ACE bandage wrap with some gauze that you can wrap a wound up, have on hand that never hurts.
• 5:56
  Tyce Erickson: And then also something I do like if you get sore pads, It's called Mushers.
• 6:02
  Tyce Erickson: You can look it up here on Amazon, I think is where you find it.
• 6:09
  Tyce Erickson: Uh, bear with me here.
• 6:13
  Tyce Erickson: I think it's called Mushers Feet.
• 6:19
  Tyce Erickson: Okay, Mushers Secret Paw Wax.
• 6:24
  Tyce Erickson: So, Um, I don't even know what's in it, honestly, but if you get dogs with sore feet, um, maybe you're doing a lot of chukar hunting with your upland dog and the dogs are getting in the rocks, tearing up their feet, or sometimes in the winter, your dogs will just get dry feet depending on what they're on.
• 6:45
  Tyce Erickson: Maybe if your dog's on concrete and he's really active, um, sometimes they can get sore pads.
• 6:51
  Tyce Erickson: It just has some oils or moisturizing content.
• 6:55
  Tyce Erickson: You can jump on there and really look into what's in it.
• 6:59
  Tyce Erickson: It says moisturizing dog balm that creates an invisible barrier that protects and heals dry cracked paws.
• 7:05
  Tyce Erickson: All natural with vitamin E and food grade ingredients.
• 7:10
  Tyce Erickson: So It's good stuff.
• 7:12
  Tyce Erickson: We usually always try to keep it on hand.
• 7:15
  Tyce Erickson: Uh, occasionally we get dogs in that come in for training and they're just kind of nutso's in their dog run.
• 7:21
  Tyce Erickson: And so if they get, if they do get sore spots on their feet, we'll try that musher secret.
• 7:26
  Tyce Erickson: So that's a little tip for you to get.
• 7:29
  Tyce Erickson: Um, looking here on Amazon, it's 15.
• 7:34
  Tyce Erickson: 99 and you can get it on prime.
• 7:35
  Tyce Erickson: So pretty cheap, but worth having on hand.
• 7:39
  Tyce Erickson: Um, so the stapler, um, some of that.
• 7:42
  Tyce Erickson: Musher's Paw Secret, that's a really good one to use and then, um, uh, um, those are some good things to have.
• 7:52
  Tyce Erickson: Now I'm going to talk about some other stuff that you can use.
• 7:56
  Tyce Erickson: Um, another antibiotic I would recommend having on hand is metronidazole.
• 8:04
  Tyce Erickson: Uh, metronidazole is, I've used it for giardia and other gut issues.
• 8:10
  Tyce Erickson: Generally, again, I'm not a vet, I'm just going off.
• 8:14
  Tyce Erickson: Practical real life use experience here.
• 8:18
  Tyce Erickson: But if your dog gets into nasty water, and all of a sudden it has severe diarrhea, it doesn't seem to be getting better, um, and you feel like it's picked up a gut, something in its gut, um, I have given the dogs metronidazole, and it seems to clean those out.
• 8:37
  Tyce Erickson: I typically will give the dog 500 milligrams, uh, twice a day, anywhere from 8 to 10 days, and usually it will clear.
• 8:46
  Tyce Erickson: that right out.
• 8:48
  Tyce Erickson: Um, metronidazole is an antibiotic and has to be prescribed by a veterinarian.
• 8:54
  Tyce Erickson: And so lots of times they won't just give you a bottle of metronidazole because there are potential side effects that can come from metronidazole.
• 9:06
  Tyce Erickson: being used.
• 9:07
  Tyce Erickson: Um, and I'm actually going to talk about those here.
• 9:11
  Tyce Erickson: So potential side effects, I'll just kind of read them to you are, um, it says here, metronidazole is an antibiotic medication commonly used in veterinary medicine to treat a range of bacterial and protozoal.
• 9:28
  Tyce Erickson: Protozoal infections in dogs is effective against a variety of ana, anaerobic bacteria which thrive in low oxygen environments and certain types of parasites.
• 9:41
  Tyce Erickson: So, um, it can help with bacterial infections, protozoal, protozoal, I know how to say that, I went to school, protozoal effect, infections, inflammatory bowel disease.
• 9:57
  Tyce Erickson: periodontal disease, also abscess and wound infections.
• 10:02
  Tyce Erickson: So here it's under that it says metronidazole can be prescribed for treating abscesses and deep wound infections where anaerobic bacteria are implicated.
• 10:12
  Tyce Erickson: So again, and underneath this that I'm reading here online, it says it is important to note that metronidazole should be only be used under the guidance of a veterinarian and as prescribed.
• 10:22
  Tyce Erickson: So, um, with all antibiotics, you're going to see that.
• 10:29
  Tyce Erickson: that you should, they should be prescribed under a veterinarian.
• 10:33
  Tyce Erickson: Um, I'm going to talk about the side effects of metronidazole, which, um, I think the risk is kind of worth having it on hand, but, uh, gastro.
• 10:48
  Tyce Erickson: Intestinal upset is a most commonly reported side effect, may include symptoms like nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, loss of appetite.
• 10:57
  Tyce Erickson: Another side effect of metronidazole is neurological symptoms.
• 11:02
  Tyce Erickson: In rare cases, high doses of prolonged use of metronidazole can lead to neurological side effects.
• 11:07
  Tyce Erickson: These may include disorientation, incoordination or seizures.
• 11:12
  Tyce Erickson: If any of these symptoms occur, obviously call your vet.
• 11:15
  Tyce Erickson: Allergic reactions.
• 11:16
  Tyce Erickson: Some dogs may be hypersensitive to metronidazole, leading to allergic reactions.
• 11:20
  Tyce Erickson: Signs of allergic reaction may include itching, hives, swelling of the face, extremities, or difficulty breathing, darkening of the urine.
• 11:29
  Tyce Erickson: Stomach pain or cramping, in some cases dogs may experience abdominal discomfort while taking metronidazole.
• 11:37
  Tyce Erickson: Dry mouth, metronidazole can lead to temporary decrease in saliva production causing a dry or tacky mouth feeling in the mouth.
• 11:46
  Tyce Erickson: So I've given dogs metronidazole over the years.
• 11:49
  Tyce Erickson: And only one of those that I have noticed on the X looking at from the outside is dry mouth.
• 11:56
  Tyce Erickson: Sometimes you put that pill in their mouth, it's almost like it's just, I don't know, they kind of get something dry in their mouth.
• 12:03
  Tyce Erickson: And so it can be sometimes a little hard to get down, so you want to get it back in the throat, get it down quick.
• 12:08
  Tyce Erickson: Um, and so they don't get that dry mouth.
• 12:11
  Tyce Erickson: So, talking about metronidazole.
• 12:15
  Tyce Erickson: Since lots of times you cannot get it from your vet and if you want to have a bottle on hand just to be safe in case you think your dog has giardia or some of these issues or picked up something where there's blood in the stools and The dog, you think it needs kind of a clean out of the gut.
• 12:36
  Tyce Erickson: Um, again, take this with caution, right?
• 12:40
  Tyce Erickson: Sometimes you can just feed the dog something different.
• 12:43
  Tyce Erickson: Um, and, and the dog can have an upset stomach.
• 12:49
  Tyce Erickson: You don't want to just throw antibiotics at him at any time.
• 12:52
  Tyce Erickson: But if you're seeing prolonged four or five days, five, six days of where there's blood in the stools, diarrhea, and something, and you can't get that dog into a veterinarian office, I would recommend, personally, this is Ty speaking, again I'm not a vet, um, to try giving them metronidazole.
• 13:13
  Tyce Erickson: I think I haven't seen any side effects besides maybe a little bit dry mouth for a minute and a lot of times the dog's gut will heal right up and they'll get feeling better and they're back to normal.
• 13:27
  Tyce Erickson: So it could save you some money, save you some time.
• 13:31
  Tyce Erickson: Having this on hand is kind of a, this is kind of part of your first aid kit.
• 13:36
  Tyce Erickson: Yeah.
• 13:37
  Tyce Erickson: You could say so.
• 13:40
  Tyce Erickson: Um, I had a client one time showed up, he couldn't get his dog into the vet.
• 13:45
  Tyce Erickson: He was going out of town.
• 13:47
  Tyce Erickson: The dog was lethargic, had diarrhea.
• 13:49
  Tyce Erickson: Uh, he didn't know what was going on and, um, there's blood in his stools and I just said, listen, I can't take, he wanted me to board the dog for him.
• 14:00
  Tyce Erickson: I said, I don't want this.
• 14:01
  Tyce Erickson: whatever he has going on around my other dogs.
• 14:05
  Tyce Erickson: And so I gave him some metronidols and said, Hey, if you want to try this, it's totally up to you do this.
• 14:11
  Tyce Erickson: It gave him about four or five days worth of the medication.
• 14:15
  Tyce Erickson: Gave it to the dog, said dog bounce back was fine.
• 14:19
  Tyce Erickson: Didn't have an issue since.
• 14:20
  Tyce Erickson: So somewhere along the line, hunting that dog or getting it in dirty water, that dog had picked up something that was bothering that dog's stomach.
• 14:29
  Tyce Erickson: So let's talk about how to get metronidazole.
• 14:34
  Tyce Erickson: Okay.
• 14:34
  Tyce Erickson: The only way I know around this, I'm going to tell you this little secret here is through the aquatic pharmacies.
• 14:41
  Tyce Erickson: So aquatic pharmacies, you can actually get.
• 14:46
  Tyce Erickson: You can actually get antibiotics for fish.
• 14:51
  Tyce Erickson: Now, according to my knowledge, again, I'm no drug expert here, all I've seen is just going off the experience that it's pretty much the same thing.
• 15:01
  Tyce Erickson: So, but they call it, to get around the legalities of it, they call it Fishzol, Metronidazole, Fishzol.
• 15:08
  Tyce Erickson: They also have, um, Amoxicillin, so it's like Fishicillin, or whatever you want to call it.
• 15:15
  Tyce Erickson: But I personally feel like it's as good as any of your human grade stuff.
• 15:21
  Tyce Erickson: Now that's up to you.
• 15:22
  Tyce Erickson: I haven't taken it as a human.
• 15:25
  Tyce Erickson: Um, But if things got really too bad and I couldn't get into a doctor, I would maybe consider it.
• 15:32
  Tyce Erickson: But anyways, for dogs, I have not had any issues.
• 15:35
  Tyce Erickson: They do.
• 15:36
  Tyce Erickson: It does come in a powder form or you can also get it in a pill.
• 15:40
  Tyce Erickson: I buy them in 500 milligram pills and generally like a larger dog.
• 15:45
  Tyce Erickson: Like, um, most of the dogs we work with, Labradors, Retrievers, German Short Haired Pointers, those type of, that size of dog, I'd say 40 to, um, 40 up, 40, 50 pounds and up, I'll usually give them 500 milligrams twice a day for about 8 to 10 days, and that usually seems to do the job.
• 16:08
  Tyce Erickson: Now if you're giving your dog this medication, and it's not doing anything after that time, and it's not cleaning it up, Then you're going to want to make sure you get that dog into the vet or it wouldn't hurt to schedule a vet appointment.
• 16:21
  Tyce Erickson: And if they can't get you in for a week or two, it's up to you.
• 16:25
  Tyce Erickson: If you want to take that chance and give your dog some metronidazole, clear out that gut.
• 16:32
  Tyce Erickson: And the dog might bounce back and be fine.
• 16:35
  Tyce Erickson: What I will see generally when I feed them, when, if I give them a dog metronidazole, I will not generally give them as much food.
• 16:45
  Tyce Erickson: My thought process, if you give them a ton of food and they eat that food, that drug is going to be a little more absorbed into the food.
• 16:53
  Tyce Erickson: And I want that drug to kind of go into the gut and.
• 16:57
  Tyce Erickson: and really work and not be absorbed in the food.
• 16:59
  Tyce Erickson: So generally I feed the dog a little bit lighter, maybe half as much as I generally do.
• 17:04
  Tyce Erickson: And that just seems to work on the gut better that way.
• 17:11
  Tyce Erickson: Now what you'll see generally if it starts working is the gut, actually the dog might not have a bowel movement for a day or so because what happened is that dog has diarrhea.
• 17:22
  Tyce Erickson: It's really just flushing through the system.
• 17:25
  Tyce Erickson: And when the gut starts repairing itself, The body starts actually creating stools inside the animal's body and it starts backing up.
• 17:34
  Tyce Erickson: And then after a day or two, you'll start actually getting normal stools or more solid stools.
• 17:40
  Tyce Erickson: So that's a good sign, actually, if you start them on it and they don't have, they don't.
• 17:46
  Tyce Erickson: Keep up the chronic diarrhea and starts backing up that that can also help.
• 17:52
  Tyce Erickson: Um, so anyhow, if you think your dog has an issue in the gut that you can again, get the dog into the vet or you're out hunting.
• 18:02
  Tyce Erickson: And it's becoming chronic.
• 18:05
  Tyce Erickson: You're getting days of this.
• 18:07
  Tyce Erickson: You can go ahead and try that and get on hand.
• 18:09
  Tyce Erickson: It's not a cheap drug.
• 18:10
  Tyce Erickson: It's about even if, if you buy it, um, through the aquatic pharmacies that are online, you're going to pay about 50 cents a pill.
• 18:17
  Tyce Erickson: So you're about a dollar a day.
• 18:19
  Tyce Erickson: So it's not terrible, but.
• 18:21
  Tyce Erickson: Um, but it's not cheap at the same, at the same time.
• 18:25
  Tyce Erickson: So, um, talking to another vet friend, another drug, um, you can use as Femazole.
• 18:34
  Tyce Erickson: Um, femazole is also another dewormer that can be used for coccidiosis and some of these other parasites or worms that can get into a dog's body and.
• 18:46
  Tyce Erickson: It's actually, can be, is, you can find it at Tractor Supply, Cal Ranch, some of these places.
• 18:52
  Tyce Erickson: The, the brand name is Panacur.
• 18:54
  Tyce Erickson: Um, it's actually a horse dewormer, but it'll say Panacur, and then underneath it, in parentheses, 10 percent fenbendazole.
• 19:02
  Tyce Erickson: And fenbendazole, talking to my veterinarian friend, he said that it can be a good one to use for giardia and another, um, different range of, of parasites.
• 19:15
  Tyce Erickson: So, that being said, um, it would not hurt to have fenbendazole and metronidazole on hand.
• 19:23
  Tyce Erickson: Fenbendazole is You can get it through your vet or you can also get it over the counter at your local, uh, farm stores.
• 19:33
  Tyce Erickson: Again, that is fenbendazole.
• 19:35
  Tyce Erickson: Now, when it comes to the amounts of fenbendazole to give, I would Google search on what you're trying to treat for if it's Giardia, but it's going to go off the weight of the animal and you're going to give the dog, um, to help, um, cure that, cure that, um, sickness that the dog is having.
• 19:57
  Tyce Erickson: So Fimbendazole, metronidazole.
• 19:59
  Tyce Erickson: Um, I'm gonna go ahead and tell a little story here also.
• 20:04
  Tyce Erickson: So we had a litter of puppies not too long ago that they were just getting done whelping.
• 20:09
  Tyce Erickson: They started losing weight.
• 20:10
  Tyce Erickson: They started having diarrhea.
• 20:12
  Tyce Erickson: We had dewormed them.
• 20:14
  Tyce Erickson: We took them to the vet's office, spent thousands of dollars trying to figure out what it was.
• 20:19
  Tyce Erickson: The vet's office kept saying, Oh, the dogs have Parvo.
• 20:23
  Tyce Erickson: And they kept doing all these Parvo tests.
• 20:25
  Tyce Erickson: And the tests kept coming back negative.
• 20:27
  Tyce Erickson: And I said, we've never had Parvo in any of our puppies or anything like that.
• 20:31
  Tyce Erickson: Not saying they can't pick it up, but they did five or six Parvo tests and they kept coming back negative and they kept Calling it Parvo and it kind of drive me nuts.
• 20:41
  Tyce Erickson: So they ended up finally a vet's office after a puppy had gone home to a client called up, we, they'd done some testing and they had put these, all these puppies on IVs and it was just kind of a big mess.
• 20:55
  Tyce Erickson: And this one puppy ended up getting.
• 21:00
  Tyce Erickson: And I said, what are we doing here?
• 21:02
  Tyce Erickson: This dog has gone home.
• 21:03
  Tyce Erickson: These other ones are still not doing 100%.
• 21:06
  Tyce Erickson: What is the difference here?
• 21:08
  Tyce Erickson: So, they'd had the dogs on metronidazole.
• 21:12
  Tyce Erickson: Um, that had not seemed to kick the bug that they had picked up.
• 21:17
  Tyce Erickson: Um, and I'm going to backtrack a little here.
• 21:19
  Tyce Erickson: The mom, when she was whelping, we let her out into the airing, airing area.
• 21:23
  Tyce Erickson: She ended up getting into some Long story short, got into some dirty water and I think she tracked that dirty water back into those puppies and those puppies as they were nursing or finishing nursing and picked up that bug and had gotten in the, inside the puppy's intestinal track and started basically going to town there.
• 21:44
  Tyce Erickson: So the metronidazole was not working.
• 21:47
  Tyce Erickson: Um, and so, make long story short, we actually ended up trying fenbendazole.
• 21:54
  Tyce Erickson: Albin Oral Suspension.
• 21:56
  Tyce Erickson: So, and those were the ones that seemed to knock it out completely.
• 22:02
  Tyce Erickson: We actually ended up losing a couple puppies, which is super unfortunate.
• 22:05
  Tyce Erickson: We're giving them IVs, we're giving them metronidazole, we're trying to, you know, syringe feed them where these puppies had gone from just completely healthy and doing great, to all of a sudden having these issues.
• 22:16
  Tyce Erickson: And I want to share these things with you guys to hopefully Save, you know, some time or give you some, some things that you could write down that hey, if, if, if we have these symptoms, maybe let's try this, um, because the side effects are very minimal compared to saving a dog's life.
• 22:35
  Tyce Erickson: So, um, with albinoral suspension, I'll just kind of tell you what that is.
• 22:42
  Tyce Erickson: Um, I got some notes here I'll share with you guys.
• 22:47
  Tyce Erickson: Um, it says, Alvin, so it's sulfa, sulfa dimethoxine, I'm probably saying that wrong, sulfa dimethoxine is an antimicrob, microb, microbial medication used in veterinarian medicine.
• 23:05
  Tyce Erickson: It is often prescribed for the treatment of bacterial infections, specifically those caused by certain protozoa and bacteria in dogs and other animals.
• 23:15
  Tyce Erickson: Oral Alvin, oral.
• 23:17
  Tyce Erickson: Albin suspension typically refers to a liquid formulation of the medication that is administered orally.
• 23:23
  Tyce Erickson: This is, this suspension form makes it easier to dose the medication, especially in situations where precise dosage adjustment is needed based on the size and weight of the animal.
• 23:34
  Tyce Erickson: Active ingredients are sulfadimethoxine, which belongs to the class of drugs known as sulfonamides.
• 23:45
  Tyce Erickson: Sorry, I'm totally slaughtering these names, I'm sure.
• 23:48
  Tyce Erickson: Albin is commonly used to treat coccidiosis, a parasite infection caused by certain protozoa, coccidia that can affect the intestines, intestines of dogs and other animals.
• 23:58
  Tyce Erickson: It may also be prescribed for certain bacterial infections.
• 24:02
  Tyce Erickson: Um, so, I don't know of any way you can get Albin oral suspension.
• 24:09
  Tyce Erickson: Um, besides from a vet's office, but it's just, sometimes dogs don't, vets, veterinarians, sorry, dogs, veterinarians don't know your situation.
• 24:23
  Tyce Erickson: And just like your kids or your dog, sometimes you know, okay, they may have gotten into this water, they may have done these things.
• 24:30
  Tyce Erickson: And so, when a dog is sick, just like a human being, what are the main symptoms?
• 24:36
  Tyce Erickson: Lethargy.
• 24:38
  Tyce Erickson: Diarrhea and vomiting.
• 24:40
  Tyce Erickson: Those are the main things, just like humans.
• 24:42
  Tyce Erickson: We don't feel good.
• 24:43
  Tyce Erickson: We're lethargic.
• 24:43
  Tyce Erickson: We want to lay in bed.
• 24:44
  Tyce Erickson: We don't feel good.
• 24:46
  Tyce Erickson: Um, maybe we'll throw up, or maybe we'll have diarrhea.
• 24:49
  Tyce Erickson: Dogs are, they're a living creature just like us, and those are the main ones.
• 24:55
  Tyce Erickson: Now, if your dog has some eye, some eye boogers or something like that, or it's shaking its head, obviously those things seem to be a little more minuscule, minuscule.
• 25:04
  Tyce Erickson: It could be just an allergies or something like that that are bugging the dog.
• 25:08
  Tyce Erickson: But we're talking about bigger, bigger symptoms here.
• 25:11
  Tyce Erickson: So, uh, lethargy again, vomiting, diarrhea.
• 25:16
  Tyce Erickson: So if you're seeing these things and they're chronic and the dog is not acting itself, and it's not getting better after a few days or maybe less, again, you got to read your dog.
• 25:25
  Tyce Erickson: These are some tools or some things you can kind of consider looking at.
• 25:30
  Tyce Erickson: One, I'm going to talk about some things that maybe you can cross off the list.
• 25:37
  Tyce Erickson: Okay, ingestion.
• 25:38
  Tyce Erickson: Dig.
• 25:39
  Tyce Erickson: Did my dog ingest anything that could have that's causing, that's, that's blocked the intestinal track of the animal?
• 25:49
  Tyce Erickson: Did my dog eat a sock?
• 25:50
  Tyce Erickson: Dogs commonly love to eat kids' socks or just socks around the house.
• 25:54
  Tyce Erickson: If you have a dog that's in the house lots of times they'll eat socks.
• 25:57
  Tyce Erickson: We've had clients, dogs, they've, they've brought'em to us and they've, they told us they've eaten balls.
• 26:02
  Tyce Erickson: Rocks is another one.
• 26:04
  Tyce Erickson: If your dog stops eating.
• 26:07
  Tyce Erickson: He starts acting lethargic and he is not passing a stool.
• 26:13
  Tyce Erickson: That could be a possibility.
• 26:15
  Tyce Erickson: And an x ray from your vet's office could help to knock that out.
• 26:19
  Tyce Erickson: Just to make sure the intestinal tract is clear.
• 26:21
  Tyce Erickson: And you're going to want to jump on that one quicker than later because they're going to need to cut out part of that intestinal tract.
• 26:27
  Tyce Erickson: and stitch it back together because it, because that'll actually cause that part of that intestinal tract to die off, um, being blocked.
• 26:36
  Tyce Erickson: So blockages, I would say, are, can be a really common one.
• 26:42
  Tyce Erickson: So just be kind of aware of that.
• 26:45
  Tyce Erickson: If the dog's lethargic, again, water.
• 26:48
  Tyce Erickson: Especially hunting dogs, if they're drinking out of a lake or a pond, um, they start, You're looking for blood in the diarrhea, blood in their stools, and it's diarrhea and watery and it's, and it stays consistent.
• 27:02
  Tyce Erickson: That can be possibly they've picked up Giardia or a protozoa or some type of bug that the dog actually has a hard time absorbing protein.
• 27:14
  Tyce Erickson: And what'll happen, they're sloughing off proteins.
• 27:16
  Tyce Erickson: They might eat or drink a lot.
• 27:18
  Tyce Erickson: Um, and then that protein is just being, is just slipping out of their body.
• 27:22
  Tyce Erickson: And now because the protein isn't being absorbed and they can't hold their weight.
• 27:26
  Tyce Erickson: So they're going to start getting skinny.
• 27:28
  Tyce Erickson: Obviously, maybe they might start getting lethargic if they're not holding weight.
• 27:32
  Tyce Erickson: And so again, again, kind of having that metronidazole or picking up some fembendazole or something, just kind of throwing it at them, um, can help.
• 27:42
  Tyce Erickson: Again, I'm not saying don't go to a vet's office, but sometimes these days, vet's office can be hard to get them into, or you're going out of town or it's a weekend or you're out hunting for a week in the Dakotas and there's no vets around or whatever.
• 27:55
  Tyce Erickson: These might be good to have on hand.
• 27:57
  Tyce Erickson: So.
• 27:58
  Tyce Erickson: I'm going to rewind back to my puppies that had picked up this bug that we'd never had this issue with.
• 28:05
  Tyce Erickson: Well, so we tried metronidazole, we tried IVs, we tried actually plasma, um, we tried, um, uh, blood transfusions on them.
• 28:16
  Tyce Erickson: I mean, this was thousands of dollars on these dogs that we were just working on trying to figure it out.
• 28:22
  Tyce Erickson: One puppy had gone home and the things we hadn't tried when I looked at that list, it actually gone to another vet's office was fenbendazole and oral albin suspension.
• 28:33
  Tyce Erickson: So I told the vet.
• 28:35
  Tyce Erickson: If we tried that, they said, no, we haven't.
• 28:37
  Tyce Erickson: I said, why not?
• 28:39
  Tyce Erickson: They said, well, we can do it.
• 28:41
  Tyce Erickson: Is it going to hurt the dog?
• 28:42
  Tyce Erickson: No.
• 28:43
  Tyce Erickson: Okay.
• 28:43
  Tyce Erickson: So let's do it.
• 28:44
  Tyce Erickson: So we put them on all the puppies on fenbendazole or an oral albin suspension.
• 28:50
  Tyce Erickson: I think it was again, go off the weights that you can find online.
• 28:54
  Tyce Erickson: I think it was 0.
• 28:55
  Tyce Erickson: 25 milliliters per pound of the dogs for the fenbendazole.
• 29:00
  Tyce Erickson: And then the albino oral suspension might have been 0.
• 29:04
  Tyce Erickson: 5 milliliters twice a day.
• 29:09
  Tyce Erickson: I'm just throwing out, I can't remember.
• 29:10
  Tyce Erickson: It's been a little bit of time since we've done that.
• 29:12
  Tyce Erickson: Again, research how much to give the animal.
• 29:16
  Tyce Erickson: Well, we had a, um, another litter of puppies starting to come down with the same symptoms.
• 29:22
  Tyce Erickson: Um, and the puppies that had come, we actually had some puppies come back from the vet's office that they were starting to eat.
• 29:29
  Tyce Erickson: They were starting to gain a little weight, but their stools were a little bit loose.
• 29:33
  Tyce Erickson: So I put all those puppies on Fembenazole and Alvin Oral Suspension with a day or two.
• 29:38
  Tyce Erickson: They were completely, their stools were completely back to normal.
• 29:41
  Tyce Erickson: Their energy was back.
• 29:43
  Tyce Erickson: They started putting on weight.
• 29:44
  Tyce Erickson: They started eating.
• 29:45
  Tyce Erickson: And it, and they were completely fine after that and have had no issues ever since then.
• 29:50
  Tyce Erickson: So.
• 29:50
  Tyce Erickson: It took drugs and IVs and all these different things to kind of try to figure out.
• 29:57
  Tyce Erickson: What the heck was going on with these dogs.
• 29:59
  Tyce Erickson: And to this day, we don't really know exactly what it was.
• 30:03
  Tyce Erickson: We know it wasn't Giardia cause we had like six tests done.
• 30:06
  Tyce Erickson: And cause, um, again, Giardia, you're basically just trying to keep them hydrated and let it run its course and kind of get them through it or not Giardia.
• 30:15
  Tyce Erickson: I'm sorry.
• 30:16
  Tyce Erickson: Um, having a brain fart.
• 30:19
  Tyce Erickson: Uh, it'll come to me.
• 30:24
  Tyce Erickson: Parvo.
• 30:25
  Tyce Erickson: Parvo is the one that's a puppy killer and according to my knowledge you gotta run to the IV, keep fluids in them, keep them eating and let them work that through.
• 30:35
  Tyce Erickson: It was not Parvo because we did all these tests and they kept coming back negative.
• 30:39
  Tyce Erickson: So it's something else that these Puppies, it was, it was really working these dogs and it was more, they were fine up until they came, they were weaning them off mother's milk.
• 30:48
  Tyce Erickson: And then when they started coming off mother's milk, that's where we saw the issue.
• 30:53
  Tyce Erickson: So I'm going to go back to this.
• 30:55
  Tyce Erickson: If you have a puppy or you have a dog that's acting sick, Again, a lot of stuff is in the gut, and now if your dog obviously has cancer or something severe like this, obviously metronidazole or any of these is not gonna fix that.
• 31:14
  Tyce Erickson: You're gonna have to go and uh, you know, actually get the dog in the vet, do blood work, really find out what's going on, if there's an organ issue or something along the lines.
• 31:24
  Tyce Erickson: I would say just being around dogs for 17 years.
• 31:29
  Tyce Erickson: That is going to be a rarity, especially in your younger dogs, having an issue with organs or cancer or something along those lines.
• 31:38
  Tyce Erickson: I'd say most of it is environmental, picking it up in the field, picking it up in the marsh, you know, these type things.
• 31:44
  Tyce Erickson: So things I would recommend, again, having on hand or kind of having in the back of your mind, metronidazole, fembendazole.
• 31:52
  Tyce Erickson: If you need to try some albinoral suspension, you're going to have to pick that up to your vet or maybe recommend it or say, Hey, what do you think about this?
• 32:01
  Tyce Erickson: Is, is this a possibility that we could try, you know, after we ran these puppies and worked them through these things, of course, we gave them probiotics to rebuild the gut to help them, um, put the good bacteria back in their gut after we had cleaned the bugs out that they had picked up.
• 32:18
  Tyce Erickson: And, um, we kept a puppy out of that litter.
• 32:21
  Tyce Erickson: to this day.
• 32:23
  Tyce Erickson: No issues.
• 32:24
  Tyce Erickson: Stools are fine and dogs are doing great.
• 32:26
  Tyce Erickson: So, um, if I would have maybe known these things, I could have maybe saved myself thousands of dollars and kind of almost assisted, you know, the vet and kind of, Hey, let's, could we try these things?
• 32:41
  Tyce Erickson: You know, is this going to really hurt the dog if we try these things or give them these options and maybe could have cleaned things out a little faster.
• 32:48
  Tyce Erickson: Again, I'm not a vet, I'm not a professional on it.
• 32:51
  Tyce Erickson: These are just things that I've seen that have worked.
• 32:54
  Tyce Erickson: Um, for, you know, my dogs or clients dogs have come in and had issues.
• 33:01
  Tyce Erickson: So, uh, let's just kind of do a quick review again and then we'll wrap this puppy up.
• 33:07
  Tyce Erickson: But again, I would recommend having a stapler.
• 33:10
  Tyce Erickson: You can get to staple wounds together.
• 33:12
  Tyce Erickson: Um, I would recommend, um, some, uh, Oh, my brain is also also not iodine that you can use to kind of flush the wounds out, um, some syringes to be able to do so, um, uh, some gauze to wrap the ACE bandages, uh, metronidazole, fenbendazole.
• 33:36
  Tyce Erickson: Also, it wouldn't hurt to get some amoxicillin that you can have on hand.
• 33:39
  Tyce Erickson: Amoxicillin can also be used for Um, certain things and again you can get these all through the aquatic pharmacies kind of a, it's kind of a loophole that you can have some of these drugs on hand because most of the time a vet is not going to give them to you.
• 33:54
  Tyce Erickson: So, um, again, there is potential side effects and you can read the side effects and decide on those.
• 34:03
  Tyce Erickson: But again, I would say these are.
• 34:06
  Tyce Erickson: If you can't get them into a vet, kind of going to be a last resort thing.
• 34:09
  Tyce Erickson: So anyhow, hopefully everyone's having a good hunting season.
• 34:15
  Tyce Erickson: Hopefully your dogs are all safe.
• 34:16
  Tyce Erickson: All of them are healthy, but, uh, keep an eye out on these things.
• 34:22
  Tyce Erickson: Um, And when I say these things, I'm going to refer to keep, have these things on hand.
• 34:30
  Tyce Erickson: And again, when you look at your animal, if he starts acting not normal, just like if you have your child sums up, he's acting weak, he's not being himself and this stays prolonged and the dog, you know, has chronic diarrhea or chronic throw up, and it's not getting better.
• 34:50
  Tyce Erickson: That is an alarm.
• 34:51
  Tyce Erickson: So you're going to want to look and I would say if it doesn't get better, this is just me.
• 34:56
  Tyce Erickson: After two, three days, symptoms are staying the same.
• 35:02
  Tyce Erickson: Um, you know, you're going to want to get that dog into a vet's office.
• 35:05
  Tyce Erickson: And if you can't get them in, maybe some of these things that we shared with you today could help you out.
• 35:09
  Tyce Erickson: So anyhow, everyone, hope you're having a great day.
• 35:12
  Tyce Erickson: Hopefully these things can help you out.
• 35:14
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• 35:18
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• 35:26
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• 35:36
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• 35:46
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• 35:53
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• 35:57
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• 36:03
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• 36:08
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• 36:09
  Tyce Erickson: Have a great day and good hunting.