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What’s Really Driving Disease? · Life TV now

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Speaker 1: What if the key to better metabolism isn't your metabolism
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Speaker 1: at all. More people than ever are struggling with weight gain,
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Speaker 1: blood sugar, and inflammation even while dieting and working out.
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Speaker 1: So how do you explain that? What if the real
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Speaker 1: issue goes deeper to the gut? And what if some
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Speaker 1: of the medications that people are taking are quietly making
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Speaker 1: matters much worse. Today's guest is here to help us
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Speaker 1: navigate these important questions and so much more. Right now,
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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to Life TV now where
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Speaker 1: we unpack all matters of truth, faith and freedom. We
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Speaker 1: have a special guest today that I think is about
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Speaker 1: to blow your mind when it comes to restoring your
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Speaker 1: gut health and of course eighty percent of your immune
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Speaker 1: system that resides in the gut.
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Speaker 2: Let me introduce who's here.
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Speaker 1: She's an integrat of nutrition, health coach with a Master
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Speaker 1: of Science and health education. Please welcome our executive director,
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Speaker 1: Jamie Woodle, and she's a clinical nutritionist and integrative health
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Speaker 1: practitioner with a doctorate in integrative healthcare focused on clinical nutrition.
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Speaker 1: She combined science, nutrition and lifestyle strategies to help people
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Speaker 1: restore health naturally highlighting the connection between gut health, metabolism, immunity,
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Speaker 1: and overall wellness. Please welcome doctor Rachel Shock. I've been
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Speaker 1: very much looking forward to this particular program, Doctor Rachel,
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Speaker 1: in part the people that watch this program that know
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Speaker 1: the origins of my exodus from what we call the
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Speaker 1: Babylonian construct, a step away from allopathic approach to healing
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Speaker 1: my gut years and years ago, which ended up being
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Speaker 1: the culprit behind just twenty seven years of autoimmunity and diverticulars, diverticulitis, plarisy, pleuriitis, esa, esophagitis.
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Speaker 1: You notice a trendear with all the itis id is
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Speaker 1: idacide deciders.
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Speaker 2: And there's more.
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Speaker 1: There's more prostadinia than prostate issues. The point is idis
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Speaker 1: is usually a way of just describing inflammatory conditions that
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Speaker 1: don't really have a genetic explanation or have a metabolic explanation.
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Speaker 1: People are just assigned, as I was, as someone who's
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Speaker 1: just suffering probably what father or mother has passed down
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Speaker 1: to me. We don't really know what causes these things,
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Speaker 1: but we know they lead to things like medications and surgeries.
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Speaker 1: And in my case, it got so diabolical about a
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Speaker 1: decade ago. They ended up cutting out half of my
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Speaker 1: colon for life, I have half of a colon, though
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Speaker 1: Sharon Gilbert jokingly and affectionately labeled me Joey semi colin.
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Speaker 2: After that surgery.
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Speaker 1: But here's the catch. For me, things got much much
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Speaker 1: worse are you hearing me?
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Speaker 2: People? Much much worse after the surgery that was.
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Speaker 1: Supposed to save my life from the diverticulosis that was
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Speaker 1: to blame for all of these anomalistic deals happening with
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Speaker 1: my life. They were testing me for lymes disease, cide a, meglavirus, thyroid,
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Speaker 1: all the things, and Rachel my labs would come back
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Speaker 1: normal range.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm dying in.
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Speaker 1: Front of these doctors. Now, I will say, I'm not
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Speaker 1: disparaging allopathic doctors. These were wonderful people that really really
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Speaker 1: wanted to help me, But the approach ended up ignoring
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Speaker 1: the underlying root causes of what was really going on
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Speaker 1: in my body, which of course I've written about in
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Speaker 1: my book time Bomb, that we'll talk to you about
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Speaker 1: later so that you know how you can get your
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Speaker 1: copy of that work. But I know that that is
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Speaker 1: one of your biggest areas as a practitioner of passion,
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Speaker 1: and it is probably I'm guessing you and I have
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Speaker 1: not talked about this specifically, but I'm guessing it's one
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Speaker 1: of the things that you usually start with. When you're
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Speaker 1: dealing with patients with anomalistic issues that have tried everything,
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Speaker 1: you have to start with gut care or figure out
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Speaker 1: what is maybe upstream damaging the gut. This is personal
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Speaker 1: for you, right. You didn't just wake up one day
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Speaker 1: and say I'm going to be a practitioner.
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Speaker 2: I want to do a good way.
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Speaker 1: There was a long history of being a school teacher,
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Speaker 1: a high school team.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Somewhere along your journey you had a moment, and
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Speaker 1: maybe it was a collection of moments that brought you
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Speaker 1: to now the doctor that sits here before us today
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Speaker 1: as a champion of gut health.
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Speaker 2: How did you get started?
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Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of funny. So the root of my journey,
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Speaker 3: I don't have the hero's journey. I didn't have the
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Speaker 3: health personal health struggle. Bless my parents. I was literally
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Speaker 3: for real, for real, for real. I was born outside
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Speaker 3: of what I would call the medical matrix and the
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Speaker 3: most literal of senses, and that my mom left the
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Speaker 3: hospital said I'm just going to have her at home,
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Speaker 3: and then we never did any allopathic medicine moving forward.
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Speaker 3: So I was very lucky and that I grew up
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Speaker 3: in a family that understood natural medicine. Food is medicine.
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Speaker 3: Diet is just so critically important.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 3: When I got into teaching, and there's a lot of
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Speaker 3: other pieces to this as well, but when I got
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Speaker 3: into teaching and I was coaching athletes, whether they were
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Speaker 3: adult athletes or my high school athletes, one of the
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Speaker 3: things I saw that made their performance suffer so badly
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Speaker 3: was their poor nutrition. And then you know, you look
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Speaker 3: at your students and you see that they've got the
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Speaker 3: facial like the acne that you're like, we need to
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Speaker 3: address the gut. There's you can't say that. You're not
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Speaker 3: going to say that to your you know, unsolicited advice.
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Speaker 3: Nobody wants that, but you see it and you know
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Speaker 3: there's a way to fix it. And when I started
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Speaker 3: working with adults endurance athletes, one of the things I
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Speaker 3: saw is these people are exercising every day. Caveat. I
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Speaker 3: do not ever say, hey, marathon running is a way
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Speaker 3: to get healthy. It's not. But just so people know
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Speaker 3: that's who I was working with. These people are out
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Speaker 3: running miles and miles every day and they're still having problems. Right,
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Speaker 3: and then you go, Okay, this isn't like an athlete
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Speaker 3: just an athlete problem. This isn't everybody problem. Yeah, And
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Speaker 3: so whether your main root cause is a gut or not,
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Speaker 3: you cannot have the body repair if that piece isn't
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Speaker 3: functioning the way it needs to. And that's essentially how
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Speaker 3: I got there in through my own little journey of
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Speaker 3: you know, my parents did let me kind of fail
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Speaker 3: forward I had. I got a job at a fast
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Speaker 3: food restaurant. Did they support that? No? Did my mom
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Speaker 3: sit there and say, hey, look at all that on
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Speaker 3: your face? I see it, Thanks mom. I got away
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Speaker 3: from what I knew, and the running brought me back
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Speaker 3: to knowing I needed to do the nutrition. And I
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Speaker 3: was a super slow runner when I first kind of
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Speaker 3: got into this as an adult. And then when I
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Speaker 3: was like, okay, go back to your what you know,
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Speaker 3: go back to the fundamentals, I went from a back
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Speaker 3: of the pack runner too. I qualified for the Boston
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Speaker 3: Marathon twice. I ran the Boston Marathon is so important
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Speaker 3: and just fueling the body the way God designed it
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Speaker 3: to be fueled.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of very frustrated people out there
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Speaker 1: that want to know, Rachel, what did you discover? You know,
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Speaker 1: what did you unlock? They're out there doing you know,
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Speaker 1: GLP one medications for weight loss because they've done the
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Speaker 1: diet exercise thing, your diet and it is Jamie Woodwoo
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Speaker 1: will us a shirt was a part of her weight
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Speaker 1: loss journey. And of course a lot of that is
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Speaker 1: conventional echo chamber approach to weight loss getting fit, and
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Speaker 1: you realize that a lot of those people are malnourished, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because their body is starving, Yes, storing every well, I
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Speaker 1: don't want to get out of you. When people think
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Speaker 1: about metabolism, doctor Rachel shuck, what are people getting wrong?
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Speaker 1: And how is the gut connected to that?
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's so interesting to me that people put metabolism
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Speaker 3: over here and the gut over here. And the thing
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Speaker 3: is is the way we fuel our metabolism. What is
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Speaker 3: metabolim It's the breakdown and the build up of our cells. Right,
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Speaker 3: how do we feed ourselves well through our food? How
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Speaker 3: does our food get to ourselves? It goes through our
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Speaker 3: digestive tract, gets to our blood and then it's delivered
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Speaker 3: into ourselves. If we don't have good absorption, ourselves don't
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Speaker 3: have good tools. So you are not what you eat,
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Speaker 3: you are what you absorbs. There you go. Yeah, that's
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Speaker 3: not my original quote, but it's it's.
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Speaker 1: So true, whire so many people struggling with things like blood, sugar,
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Speaker 1: weight and inflammation, because you're going to have people watching
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Speaker 1: the show that are going to be like, man, they
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Speaker 1: are describing me right now. I have burned my adrenals
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Speaker 1: out trying to run on hamster wheels to lose weight,
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Speaker 1: and it's stubborn and it's difficult. And I know that
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Speaker 1: a lot of liver functionality and enzyme production and all
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Speaker 1: of the things also peripherally support digestion and gut health.
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Speaker 1: But if a person's watching this program and they ask you, well,
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Speaker 1: doctor Rachel, you know I'm dealing with insulin resistance and
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Speaker 1: got you know, as opposed to just describing the gut
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Speaker 1: in generic terms like where would I start?
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Speaker 2: What's really behind all of that?
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Speaker 3: Oh that's a loaded question.
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Speaker 1: And the good news is you've got like nineteen minutes
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Speaker 1: to sort all that up.
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Speaker 3: The reason I put this in an entire book. Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 3: so let me kind of back up and just give
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Speaker 3: people some basics that maybe they can see. And these
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Speaker 3: are things you guys are familiar with, but you know,
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Speaker 3: we forget other people. They've never heard this before. One
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Speaker 3: of the gut dysfunction things we see with systemic inflammation
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Speaker 3: is I get people who come into my office who
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Speaker 3: have taken ibuprofen or an aproxy or acedomenafin because they're
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Speaker 3: told they're anti inflammatory.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: The problem is they are a short term anti inflammatory.
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Speaker 3: Long term they are damaging the gut. They are causing
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Speaker 3: gut permeability. What we know is leaky gut.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 3: What happens when you have a leaky gut, things get
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Speaker 3: into the bloodstream that don't belong there. When you have
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Speaker 3: things in the bloodstream that don't belong there, now you
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Speaker 3: have systemic inflammation.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 3: Anti inflammatories are inflammatory, bottom line period. They don't tell
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Speaker 3: you that, No, they don't, but it is on the insert.
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Speaker 3: If you pull out the insert, it will tell you
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Speaker 3: all the details.
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Speaker 1: So you know, people that may not be familiar with
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Speaker 1: leaki gut, that didn't see my testimony a decade ago,
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Speaker 1: or read my book time Bomb, or have done any
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Speaker 1: searching about this, and they're like, man, they're telling me
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Speaker 1: I've got arthritis. They're telling me I've got this autoimmune
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Speaker 1: condition or that auto immune condition. And I was telling
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Speaker 1: people like ten years ago, a lot of the ish
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Speaker 1: your gut folks, and a lot of people that have
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Speaker 1: now since then subscribed to things like curcumin or lifestyle
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Speaker 1: diet choices have said, man, that whole book, that whole
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Speaker 1: project saved my life. It has completely changed everything, as
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Speaker 1: it has my own life. But one of the things
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Speaker 1: that I know women are really really getting desperate about.
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Speaker 1: There are different types of fat in the body. So
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Speaker 1: you go to your doctor and they say, well, you
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Speaker 1: need to lose weight, and that's really what will get
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Speaker 1: you back. I mean, you've got to lose the weight
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Speaker 1: in order to be healthy. And it's exactly the opposite
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Speaker 1: people like you and I wouldn't often start somebody on
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Speaker 1: a hamster wheel, right.
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Speaker 3: Weight loss is a side effect of getting healthy. First
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Speaker 3: of all, I want to say, carbohydrates in and of
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Speaker 3: themselves are not bad. Ultra process refined foods that we're eating,
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Speaker 3: and we eat too many. The body converts carbohydrates into
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Speaker 3: glucose when we have excess glucose. That glucose to keep
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Speaker 3: us safe has to be converted into triglycerides. Glyrides get
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Speaker 3: stored as fat. So now we're into what I call
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Speaker 3: the parking Okay, subcutaneous fat, that's what I consider safe parking.
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Speaker 3: Your body converts the triglyrides and it stores it in
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Speaker 3: places in the body that are safe. So that may
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Speaker 3: be on your hips, under your chin, on your arms.
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Speaker 3: Do we love it? Is it aesthetically appealing? Not really?
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Speaker 3: But it's safe, it's ordered, it's structurally it's structured, right,
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Speaker 3: So that's what I call safe parking. When we've filled
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Speaker 3: up our kind of overflow safe parking lot, this is
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Speaker 3: where we get into visceral fat. And so this is
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Speaker 3: what I call illegal parking. When you are parking fat
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Speaker 3: in the illegal parking zone. So you know, you're blocking
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Speaker 3: the loading dock, and you're in places you shouldn't be
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Speaker 3: in our body that looks like around our organs, So
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Speaker 3: whether that's around the liver, around the pancreas, around the intestine.
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Speaker 3: Visceral fat is not benign. It doesn't just sit there.
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Speaker 3: It sends out signals and those are inflammatory signals. So
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Speaker 3: that is we go from our safe, orderly structured overflow
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Speaker 3: parking to our illegal parking. And then when we talk
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Speaker 3: so that's the visceral fat. And then when we talk
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Speaker 3: about a topic, fat to me in my head, what
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Speaker 3: that kind of parking is, You've got your car two
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Speaker 3: wheels or on the back of the cliff and the
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Speaker 3: other two wheels are hanging off. And that's the fat
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Speaker 3: that's inside of the organs, inside of the liver, inside
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Speaker 3: of the heart. So you know, we want to keep
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Speaker 3: those fats down. And I will say what I tell
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Speaker 3: they do in my talks. One of the biggest things,
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Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, if you get no other takeaway, know
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Speaker 3: that mid section belly fat, if you were walking around
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Speaker 3: with a gut right here, we've got illegal parking going on.
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Speaker 3: There is a metabolic issue.
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Speaker 1: How does a person watching this show start dealing with
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Speaker 1: some of the illegal parking diet and fifteen minutes.
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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, everybody's going to be different. It's very individual.
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Speaker 3: But the first thing that we can do fundamentally, no
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Speaker 3: matter where you're at is, you know, it's kind of ironic,
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Speaker 3: but it's that shopping. The twenty percent of the grocery
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Speaker 3: store shop the perimeter, eat real whole foods, cut out
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Speaker 3: the process carbohydrates. And when I say that, it's so
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Speaker 3: wild to me that I have to say, hey, listen,
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Speaker 3: eighty percent of what's in a grocery store, don't eat it. No, exactly,
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Speaker 3: that's where we're at. So again, if somebody really wants
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Speaker 3: to start kind of changing the parking of their fat,
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Speaker 3: they're gonna have to start tapping into those stores, which
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Speaker 3: is hugely dietary changes. The other thing is we have
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Speaker 3: to kind of quit hurting ourselves. We've got to let
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Speaker 3: the gut do its job naturally.
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Speaker 4: Will you unpact that when you say we need to
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Speaker 4: stop hurting ourselves, how are we hurting ourselves?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? So I see a lot of clients who you know,
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Speaker 3: I just mentioned that I like ibuprofen type things, but
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Speaker 3: people come in, they're on proton pump inhibitors, they're on
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Speaker 3: SSR eyes. All of these things disrupt the gut on
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Speaker 3: some level. And if we're trying to change our diet,
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Speaker 3: which is the key, that's definitely step one, you're still
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Speaker 3: kind of creating a lot level of damage where you
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Speaker 3: can't it's really hard to get ahead.
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Speaker 2: That's it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, well, unlike ppiso are those are being used
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Speaker 1: to manage gird acid reflux, which is what doctor Rachel shuck,
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Speaker 1: a side effect of.
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Speaker 3: Not having enough stomach acid. It's nuts, so right, exactly. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's so wild that you're given a medication to suppress
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Speaker 3: the reverse of the problem. And I have so many
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Speaker 3: people come into my clinic. You know, when you look
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Speaker 3: at a package insert on a proton pump inhater, it
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Speaker 3: says anywhere from like six to fourteen weeks. I might
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Speaker 3: be getting the timeframe wrong of how long it shows
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Speaker 3: to use it three months. It's not all come in
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Speaker 3: that have been on it for twenty five years. And
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Speaker 3: then you wonder, well, this is how you create a
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Speaker 3: problem like osteoporosis when you can't break down your minerals
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Speaker 3: correctly and your digestive track. How those minerals are going
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Speaker 3: to get to your bones right.
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Speaker 1: Food enzymes, things like hydrochloric acid, those are actually now
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Speaker 1: those are going to fly in the face of everything that.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people have been told.
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Speaker 1: But you're actually wanting to increase the right types of
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Speaker 1: acid so that your food can be broken down in digestion,
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Speaker 1: so that your body stops producing this over amount of
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Speaker 1: like what I call low hanging fruit acid. It's the
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Speaker 1: quickly produced acid that doesn't have enough oomph to get
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Speaker 1: the job done. And then you're not receiving your minerals,
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Speaker 1: you're not digesting completely, and of course your body just
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Speaker 1: continues the cycle while you fight against it because you
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Speaker 1: don't like the side effect of gird or acid reflux.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and then I want people to know too, because
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Speaker 3: I work with a lot of people getting off of those.
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Speaker 3: It is a process. It's a lot of people think
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Speaker 3: I'm just going to quit, which is fine and you
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Speaker 3: can do it, but know that the symptoms. There's a
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Speaker 3: whole rebound effect that happens from that. So a lot
15:38
Speaker 3: of people think they're going to quit and they're like, well,
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Speaker 3: I can't because they have to experience that, you know,
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Speaker 3: two to however, many weeks of rebound and get through it.
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Speaker 3: When you're working with someone, then we can help you
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Speaker 3: with tools. Maybe that's slippery l maybe that's entner leaf
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Speaker 3: al of vera juice. You know, depending on the person
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Speaker 3: and what they need.
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Speaker 2: But absolutely, yeah, it's a.
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Speaker 1: Great it's a great go to. In fact, I like
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Speaker 1: it in a lot of ways more than a lot
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Speaker 1: of the fibers that people are trying to use to
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Speaker 1: move bulk through people that are struggling with things like constipation.
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Speaker 1: And of course I'm sure you know this, but that
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Speaker 1: is in a lot of cases the side effect of
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Speaker 1: liver dysfunction as well bodies not producing enough bio to
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Speaker 1: get the job done. So, friends, are you seeing the picture.
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Speaker 1: We are ruining our guts. It can't do what it
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Speaker 1: needs to do. It's fighting to do what it needs
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Speaker 1: to do, and then we're sabotaging it because of the
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Speaker 1: discomfort that we're experiencing because it doesn't work by ruining
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Speaker 1: it even more.
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Speaker 3: I want to elaborate on that, Joe, because you said
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Speaker 3: something about liver and bile function, and I think people
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Speaker 3: need to know this because I have again, I have
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Speaker 3: a lot of people going to office. It's really common
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Speaker 3: for someone to not have a gall bladder, and I
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Speaker 3: always ask them when they say, I don't have a
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Speaker 3: gall bladder. Okay, before you went through all the steps
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Speaker 3: to have a surgery tour move it, did anybody sit
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Speaker 3: down and talk to you and say, listen, this isn't
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Speaker 3: a gallbladder issue. This is a liver issue. Making sick
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Speaker 3: and sludgy bile.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 3: I'm bat in a thousand. All my people say, what, No,
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Speaker 3: I've never heard that we have.
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Speaker 1: People in this audience today that before they were aware
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Speaker 1: of options, we're pursuing that allopathic path who.
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Speaker 2: No longer have their gallbladders.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now they're dealing with downstream side effects of
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Speaker 1: not being able to produce enough file and stuff like this.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So I want to bring some coherence to this though,
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Speaker 1: because we're talking a lot about the problems, and we're
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Speaker 1: touching a little bit on what people can do. But
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Speaker 1: if you knew that you were never going to get
17:23
Speaker 1: an opportunity to meet somebody watching this program. And I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to say give them three things, because I
17:27
Speaker 1: don't want to put you on the spot make it
17:29
Speaker 1: come up with three things that are arbitrary. But where
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Speaker 1: would you have them start if you knew I'm going
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Speaker 1: to get one chance to just get them started? Would
17:36
Speaker 1: it be that you recommend that they find like a
17:38
Speaker 1: holistic or a naturopathic doctor or somebody like you. Do
17:41
Speaker 1: you do remote telehealth of some kind or remote doctor
17:46
Speaker 1: patient coaching or anything.
17:47
Speaker 2: To that effect.
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Speaker 3: Well, I do recommend if it is in you know,
17:51
Speaker 3: I'm always conscious of people's budgets too. That yes, if
17:54
Speaker 3: you can reach out to a practitioner with proven results
17:56
Speaker 3: that people know and trust and have you know, seen
18:00
Speaker 3: how that works, then absolutely that's probably the easiest place
18:03
Speaker 3: to start. There's also, you know, really great books. If
18:05
Speaker 3: someone is confused about where to start. Maybe if it's
18:09
Speaker 3: like a PPI problem, I can recommend a couple of books.
18:12
Speaker 3: I also tell my people, look, if you're really wanting
18:14
Speaker 3: to get off medication, you need to become the expert
18:19
Speaker 3: and then you go to your doctor and you say
18:21
Speaker 3: this is how I want to do this. There are
18:23
Speaker 3: really great tools out there for people on benzodiazepines, because
18:26
Speaker 3: you cannot just quick those that could literally be lethal.
18:29
Speaker 3: There's something called the Ashton Manual. Get it, know it,
18:32
Speaker 3: read it, take it to your doc, help them deprescribe.
18:34
Speaker 3: If it's something like SSRI, it's get the Maudsley Manual
18:39
Speaker 3: that get it, know it, read it. You have to
18:40
Speaker 3: be the best advocate for your health. Now. If you
18:43
Speaker 3: want a really basic starting point, this is what I
18:47
Speaker 3: tell my people. Start tracking your food. Be honest about it.
18:53
Speaker 3: A lot of people come into my office and I
18:54
Speaker 3: say Okay, tell me what you ate in the last
18:56
Speaker 3: forty eight hours.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to tell you.
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Speaker 3: Oh no, this is what I get. I always get
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Speaker 3: the well, this isn't how I normally eat. Oh, and
19:06
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, well, let's see about that. So we
19:10
Speaker 3: do that, the forty eight hour food recall. Then they
19:12
Speaker 3: start tracking and they come back and they go, oh, well,
19:14
Speaker 3: maybe it's not as good as I thought it was.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: No, it's true that the American diet is so bad,
19:19
Speaker 1: the sad, the standard American diet. It is so bad
19:22
Speaker 1: that when people think they've avoided the drive through that week,
19:25
Speaker 1: that they're really now working on their health. And it's like,
19:28
Speaker 1: I don't want to depress you, but it is so
19:30
Speaker 1: much more than driving past a fast food chain, yeah,
19:33
Speaker 1: or skipping a centamon roll. It is being proactive with
19:36
Speaker 1: what you're putting in your body to start the nourishing process. Well,
19:39
Speaker 1: very quickly, before we continue this interview, ladies and gentlemen,
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20:44
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20:47
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20:50
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20:52
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20:54
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20:56
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20:58
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21:00
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21:02
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21:04
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21:06
Speaker 1: store where to begin. It is the most simple, user friendly,
21:09
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21:12
Speaker 1: severe OCD and ADHD, would have really been able to
21:15
Speaker 1: follow many many years ago when I was absolutely lost.
21:18
Speaker 1: And by the way, my first experience with an atropathic
21:21
Speaker 1: doctor was very bad. Oh I'm not going to mention
21:25
Speaker 1: her name. She doesn't practice in Missouri anymore. But I'm
21:28
Speaker 1: offering you this in case you don't have a great
21:29
Speaker 1: experience your first time.
21:31
Speaker 2: Don't give up.
21:31
Speaker 1: I eventually found doctor Josh Vance in Republic, who is
21:36
Speaker 1: a chiropractor, and ended up knowing more than all these people.
21:40
Speaker 3: They learned a lot about nutrition in school.
21:42
Speaker 1: He's a master of herbs and he understands and now
21:44
Speaker 1: he's much smarter than he was even a decade ago.
21:47
Speaker 1: But here's the thing I went in saying, Josh, I've
21:50
Speaker 1: tried everything, and he just this cheshire grin. He's letting
21:53
Speaker 1: me vent, He's waiting for me to finish, and then
21:55
Speaker 1: he says, Joe, you don't have to live like this.
21:57
Speaker 1: And everything that was going on in my box, from
22:00
Speaker 1: the acid reflux to the prostate stuff, to all the things,
22:03
Speaker 1: the plarisy, the epididymitis the constant brain fog. All that
22:07
Speaker 1: stuff ended up being for a guy like Josh Vance
22:10
Speaker 1: who understands God's medicine was I don't want to say trivial.
22:15
Speaker 1: It's been challenging, and today is a practiced of continued nutrition.
22:19
Speaker 1: This is a lifestyle change, right, doctor Rachel Shuck. This
22:22
Speaker 1: is not a one off. We don't just get well
22:24
Speaker 1: for a month and then go back to what we
22:25
Speaker 1: were doing. It's a permanent evacuation of all of the
22:29
Speaker 1: things that life was, the way you were eating, the
22:32
Speaker 1: way you were sleeping, the way you were dealing with life,
22:34
Speaker 1: and it is to take on God's medicine, his lifestyle.
22:37
Speaker 1: With just a couple of minutes left on the clock,
22:39
Speaker 1: I want to bring up a scripture verse before we
22:42
Speaker 1: adjourn today, and then I want to get your reaction first.
22:45
Speaker 1: Corinthians six nineteen through twenty is very telling. The Word
22:49
Speaker 1: of God always is. It says, what know ye not?
22:53
Speaker 1: That your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost,
22:55
Speaker 1: which is in you, which ye have of God, And
22:58
Speaker 1: ye are not your own, for ye are bought with
23:01
Speaker 1: a price. Therefore, glorify God in your body and in
23:04
Speaker 1: your spirit, which are God's. For someone trying to take
23:08
Speaker 1: care of their body, how can they take bits of
23:11
Speaker 1: Scripture with some of the things that we've talked about
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Speaker 1: today and understand that we are the temple.
23:15
Speaker 2: Of the Holy Spirit.
23:16
Speaker 1: He created us to heal and to thrive, and yet
23:19
Speaker 1: we're living on a fallen planet and embracing a lot
23:21
Speaker 1: of bad things.
23:22
Speaker 3: So it's so important to remember we are stewarding these
23:26
Speaker 3: bodies and that our health doesn't happen to us if
23:31
Speaker 3: we look at it as happening to us. This is
23:33
Speaker 3: how we end up with prescriptions and scalpels, right drugs
23:37
Speaker 3: and surgery. Our health happens through us through our daily
23:41
Speaker 3: consistent choices that we make every day. No one can
23:44
Speaker 3: eat for you, no one can go outside in the
23:46
Speaker 3: sunshine for you, no one can exercise for you, no
23:48
Speaker 3: one can make you go to bed at the appropriate time,
23:50
Speaker 3: but you and therefore the responsibility falls on us through
23:54
Speaker 3: our daily, small actionable steps that we do consistently.
23:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they have a term for that. There
24:00
Speaker 4: is external locus of control and that is the mindset
24:03
Speaker 4: that things are happening to us, or there's an internal
24:05
Speaker 4: locus of control, meaning I understand that what I'm putting
24:09
Speaker 4: out there, the choices that I am making, are having
24:11
Speaker 4: consequences which impact me well.
24:13
Speaker 2: And the other thing.
24:14
Speaker 1: And we haven't really addressed this, and we've only got
24:16
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes on the clock, but I want
24:17
Speaker 1: to at least get it started. We can maybe unpack
24:20
Speaker 1: this some more next week, if the Lord leads us
24:22
Speaker 1: to do that. But I have people right now that
24:24
Speaker 1: I care deeply about who are struggling with mental health.
24:27
Speaker 1: And that's also something that seems to be disassociated in
24:30
Speaker 1: the world of medicine, and the treatment for things like depression, anxiety,
24:35
Speaker 1: and the God is also never discussed. And these are
24:38
Speaker 1: also people at the end of their row, some of
24:40
Speaker 1: them desperately suicidal. They're struggling with matters of faith, they
24:44
Speaker 1: don't know why God won't heal them, They're taking medications,
24:46
Speaker 1: gut health absolutely impacts all of these downstream things our psychology,
24:51
Speaker 1: our sleep, or cortisol. I'm living proof that you can
24:55
Speaker 1: be doing all of the right things on paper and
24:57
Speaker 1: still deal with you know, cortisol issues because I lost
25:00
Speaker 1: my father and I'm running two ministries and two companies
25:02
Speaker 1: and it's like I'm living out of balance.
25:04
Speaker 3: No, life still happen.
25:05
Speaker 2: Life is still happening exactly.
25:08
Speaker 1: So you know, we're living on a fallen planet, but
25:10
Speaker 1: at least acknowledging that gut health is massive in terms
25:13
Speaker 1: of mental health.
25:15
Speaker 2: Do you see this a lot in your yes?
25:16
Speaker 3: And so I will say a lot of people who
25:18
Speaker 3: are weaning off, you know, antidepressants, one of the biggest
25:21
Speaker 3: things I try to share with them is we know
25:23
Speaker 3: we make a ton of serotonin in our gut. That's
25:25
Speaker 3: a feel good contentment hormone. We have up to five
25:29
Speaker 3: hundred million neurons in our gut. Right, everyone thinks brain neurons.
25:33
Speaker 3: I'm like, they also exist in our gut.
25:36
Speaker 2: Are connected?
25:36
Speaker 3: Yea, they are very connected. And we also know that
25:38
Speaker 3: the bacteria and our gut influenced you know, neurotransmitters like GABBA,
25:44
Speaker 3: which is you know, responsible for calming down over stimulation,
25:47
Speaker 3: improving concentration. We also know gut microbiomes play a role
25:51
Speaker 3: in acetylcholine production, which that's memory and learning. You cannot
25:55
Speaker 3: separate the brain from the gut. We got that big
25:58
Speaker 3: old vegas nerve running right from brain to the gut,
26:01
Speaker 3: that's right. Yeah.
26:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard people say that the gut is like
26:03
Speaker 4: a second brain, and it's like the new frontier right there.
26:06
Speaker 4: We're uncovering things in research all the time and learning
26:09
Speaker 4: more and more about what this microbe does to benefit
26:12
Speaker 4: the body and how this one might hurt the body
26:14
Speaker 4: and even influence appetite things like that. It's I love
26:17
Speaker 4: that kind of science. It really drives my passion.
26:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really drives it home and just everything was
26:22
Speaker 3: so intelligently designed. Yeah, and if we can support that
26:25
Speaker 3: original design the body, it's miraculously at healing itself. Yeah.
26:29
Speaker 1: I don't know if this has been your experience, but
26:32
Speaker 1: a lot of the practitioner friends that I have, naturopathic doctors,
26:36
Speaker 1: you know, holistic doctors, chiropractors, they almost won't address the
26:40
Speaker 1: prevailing symptom that is decried by the patient walking in
26:44
Speaker 1: day one. They will start with things like gut care
26:47
Speaker 1: because they are usually correct, and that if you can
26:49
Speaker 1: get that over a period of time, friends, this could
26:51
Speaker 1: take a few months to really really work on and
26:54
Speaker 1: to start seeing you've spent years making yourself this sick.
26:58
Speaker 1: Right within a few weeks maybe some improvement, but be
27:01
Speaker 1: thinking in terms of seasons of the year, not hours
27:04
Speaker 1: of the day. That helps a lot, but a lot
27:07
Speaker 1: of these other side effects just kind of start to dissolve, don't.
27:10
Speaker 3: They, guys, And you know what I want to say
27:12
Speaker 3: about that, because this is what happens. It's so important
27:15
Speaker 3: to document everything, track everything in your healing journey because
27:19
Speaker 3: a lot of people come in they with the symptoms.
27:21
Speaker 3: You work on the gut, you work on whatever other
27:23
Speaker 3: pieces need to be addressed. You're talking to them six
27:25
Speaker 3: months later and they're like, well, I don't know if
27:27
Speaker 3: anything's changed. Do you sell migraines? Oh no, I forgot it.
27:29
Speaker 2: They forgot the yeah, exactly.
27:31
Speaker 3: Just it's not like a pharmaceutical pillar or the symptoms
27:34
Speaker 3: to go away like that. It's a slow, gradual over time.
27:36
Speaker 3: And they're just like, oh, yeah, that was a press
27:38
Speaker 3: that's true. Yeah, oh yeah, no, no, I'm good.
27:40
Speaker 1: There as your stamina, I guess I am leaving the
27:42
Speaker 1: house moral.
27:42
Speaker 2: Yeh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but it's very slow.
27:44
Speaker 1: So anyway, friends, we were never going to get it
27:46
Speaker 1: all done in one week. How many of you think
27:47
Speaker 1: we have to have Doctor Rachel shut back next week?
27:54
Speaker 1: Unfortunately we're all out of time. I hope that you
27:57
Speaker 1: learned something today. Don't miss next week we're going to
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Speaker 1: continue this conversation for everybody here in studio, Doctor Rachel Shuck,
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Speaker 1: Jamie Woodle, thank you so much for being right here
28:04
Speaker 1: at Life TV. Now keep your eyes on the prize,
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Speaker 1: which is Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 2: We'll be back