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13 Year Old Realizes His Twin Brother Just Killed Someone · The Empire of Wealth

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Speaker 1: How are you I'll out of invester.
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Speaker 2: What do you guys suspect or what do you guys know.
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Speaker 3: About what happens?
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Speaker 4: Police are speaking with thirteen year old Hunter and his
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twin brother Levi, and while they appear clueless, now one
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of them has just committed a gruesome murder.
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Speaker 5: We need to talk to essentially each of you, and
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we're wondering if we can go out to the police deparmat.
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Speaker 6: I don't know what's going on here you are.
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Speaker 4: As the week's long investigation continues, detectives discover that these
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are no ordinary boys. One of them has spent years
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obsessively researching serial killers like Ted Bundy. Now he believes
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he's executed the perfect murder and can out smart police,
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but a series of childish mistakes would cause his violent
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fantasies to slowly come to light, leaving his family and
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the entire town in utter shock. As the monster they
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feared turns out to be a thirteen year old boy
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finefl and he needs to die.
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Speaker 7: There's be someone who blooded over what happens.
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Speaker 8: Now, it's only there's two types of people in this world.
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You've got monsters, You've got people who make mistakes.
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Speaker 9: A murder than it would be.
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Speaker 3: A monster right.
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Speaker 4: It's two am in the small village of Fairfax, Ohio,
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and tonight a thirteen year old boy decides this is
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the night he becomes a serial killer. For years, he's
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been obsessed with true crime content, and with his family
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preparing to move away the following week, he's finally ready
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to put everything he's learned into action. At two thirty am,
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he slips out of his house and walks less than
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ten feet to his neighbor's house next door. Once in,
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the thirteen year old puts on a pair of gloves,
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something he learned on YouTube that would prevent him from
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leaving behind his DNA. He moves silently through the house
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before approaching the bedroom of an elderly woman at two
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forty He begins strangling her, but despite months of preparation,
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he quickly realizes this will be far more difficult than
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he expected, because when the woman wakes up, she fights back,
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punching and brutally scratching the boy's face. But just minutes later,
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the woman is dead, killed at the hands of a
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little boy. At three point fifteen am, he's back in
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his own bed as if nothing ever happened. It's just
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past eleven am on a Sunday. Many Fairfax residents are
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returning home from church when the Fairfax Police receive a
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nine to one one call unlike anything they've heard in years.
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Speaker 10: Your emergency, Oh Sory nineteen Tremada.
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Speaker 11: I think my misterms murdered. I get some blood.
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 12: She did not respond when I yelled at her.
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Speaker 13: All right, sir, I have helped coming out there for her. Okay,
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you know that you might want a farmer or anything
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like that.
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Speaker 12: Absolutely nobody on the line, His sixty one year old
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Darryl Tenpenny, insisting his sister had been murdered, something almost
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unheard of in this area.
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Speaker 4: Moments later, first responders arrive at the house, unaware they're
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not only walking into a carefully staged crime scene, but
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that the killer is still nearby, watching police's every move.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll go and get it out. We'll domicon's confimation
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stup here. Hey, I don't know if I believe this
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is the murder.
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Speaker 14: So camera, it's almost been honestly hitting my wife.
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Speaker 3: Oh rigor.
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Speaker 15: Just try to touch at least as you ask him.
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Speaker 16: Do what you guys gotta do.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, I'll see you have blood.
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Speaker 17: Did he did he cover her up?
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Speaker 18: I don't know.
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Speaker 19: The cat di pass said that he found.
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Speaker 16: Her with a pillow over top of her.
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Speaker 15: I don't know about.
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Speaker 3: Proxide and cleaning them.
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Speaker 18: A lot of.
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Speaker 4: Hokvizmol she drank it.
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Speaker 20: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Let me go. You want you want the monitor?
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Speaker 4: Oh we have rigor on the bed lies sixty four
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year old Shila ten Penny, partially clothed and deceased for
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what appears to have been several hours. As officers continue
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to inspect the house, they notice nothing appears to be stolen,
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supporting their working theory that Sheila may have taken her
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own life. And with that assumption comes the first accidental
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success for the thirteen year old killer, convincing him he's
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already outsmarted the police. However, what office her spot next
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would flip this theory upside down.
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Speaker 19: It's just a it's a female d away on dremnia,
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just kind of odd all over her face and some chemical.
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Speaker 7: Hair, blood and hair underneath your fingers.
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Speaker 19: Blood spider around that the guy, the founder that the
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door was open, and he said that he told the
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flaw that he thinks she was murderer.
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Speaker 14: So we'll get I don't see blood from her, so
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that might not be you knows, that's the police workman,
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I don't mean over set, No, you're good, Hills.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, the blood and hair beneath Sheila's fingernails certainly
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raised suspicions. Investigators still refuse to roll out the possibility
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of this being self inflicted, but before they send Sheila's
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body for autopsy, there's still something that doesn't sit right
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with them. They're baffled by how certain the victim's brother, Darryl,
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seemed that his sister had been assaulted before paramedics had
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even suggested that possibility, and with that statement alone, he
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has unknowingly made himself their first suspect. So they decided
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to ask him a few questions.
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Speaker 3: Hey know, sir, I mean obviously not great.
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Speaker 19: I'm also more fair of fact police forrman, when's the
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last time that you that you know?
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Speaker 9: Yes?
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Speaker 17: Do you know what time about?
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Speaker 16: Or we talked?
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Speaker 15: Did he talk to hers?
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Speaker 21: Here?
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Speaker 11: I see her and actually seven or nine pm it's
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the last.
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Speaker 3: Message I got for her.
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Speaker 19: Is there any was there anything she was she struggling
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with anything?
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Speaker 3: I mean mentally physically?
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Speaker 15: Nothing at all.
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Speaker 19: Okay, so you made a comment to these guys when
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they first got here that you thought like she.
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Speaker 11: First, well, she's laying on the bed with her legs
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bread and it looked like there was blood, and her
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head was had stuff on top of her like someone
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tried to smother and she looked like a ripped her
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thing open, and I yelled at her she did and
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I did see no move from her whatsoever. I just
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for around a walk down.
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Speaker 4: Interestingly, Daryl never mentions performing CPR, and while police now
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know it likely wouldn't have saved Sheila, that's not something
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Daryl would have known for sure. And right here comes
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the second lucky break for the team killer, because every
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good murder needs a fall guy, and the police have
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just taken the bait with Daryl. Shortly afterwards, Daryl's interview
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wraps up, the scene is secured, and officers return to
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the station to await the autopsy results. But as investigators
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leave the house, they would overlook a crucial piece of evidence.
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Lying beneath Shila Tenpenny's body was a men's wrist watch,
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a seemingly insignificant detail that would later become one of
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the key pieces of evidence used to solve the entire case.
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One week passes and then comes the update. Investigators have
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been waiting for the forensic and DNA results arrive, completely
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overturning their initialsts. Asumptions, investigators determined that Sheila Tenpenny had
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suffered blunt force trauma to the head and neck before
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ultimately being strangled to death, but they also confirmed something crucial.
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Sheila had managed to fight back. On her hands and
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beneath her fingernails are traces of blood and tufts of
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hair DNA belonging to an unknown male. With these disturbing findings,
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there is no longer any question this is a homicide.
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So early Monday morning, officers returned to the neighborhood, going
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door to door in search of anyone Sheila may have
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wronged and anyone with fresh defensive wounds. But in reality,
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the detectives couldn't be more off track, while the young
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killer quietly brags about the murder online, growing more confident
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by the hour, knowing the victim had absolutely no enemies,
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and as police begins surveying the neighborhood, they have no
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idea which interaction will bring them face to face with
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Sheila's killer.
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Speaker 3: So you're one of the trusted family men.
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Speaker 16: What we're doing is getting elimination DNA from anybody we
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talked to as long as you're willing. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 3: And then how about your hand. Just let me double
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check your hands.
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Speaker 16: I know you work with them on the air side. Yeah,
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that's great.
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Speaker 3: I can't believe that heaven, that'll lead or anything.
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Speaker 22: U there's a lot going on, I'll say, so this
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is just part of the process.
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Speaker 7: Here's my card before.
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Speaker 5: I forget in case you have anything else or need
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to reach out, email.
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Speaker 15: And phone numbers on there.
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Speaker 16: Find it full and he needs to die.
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Speaker 4: I'm I wish we did that more often, to be honest.
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Speaker 15: With you, I mean, you know, if it gets out,
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you're gonna do it again.
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Speaker 21: You can't here.
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Speaker 16: Don't check that. Yeah, don't fix it. I agree.
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Speaker 7: Okay, you're good there, Come up here soon.
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Speaker 3: I know this is a pain in the ass, man,
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but I definitely appreciate it.
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Speaker 16: So you guys think this is a random thing, I
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want to say, no, I do well.
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Speaker 22: But from while I've heard you know, the guy down
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on that new house over there, and a couple others.
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I've been out here having my sigarette. I hear I
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think the brother doesn't arrest him in a couple of
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three days. I'm like, what now a reason why?
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Speaker 20: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: That's just a speculation, right, that's interesting.
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Speaker 4: After speaking with more than a dozen people, officers uncover
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a major new rumor. Many in the village suspect Sheila's
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own brother, Darryl is responsible. With this as their only
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real lead, another team of officers, led by Special Agent
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Richard Ward, makes a surprise visit to Darrell's house less
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than a mile away, and for the actual killer, the
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plan appears to be working even better than he imagined.
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Suspicion has successfully shifted onto Sheila's own family member, pulling
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detectives completely off his trail as they begin focusing in
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on Daryl for now, though, officers have just arrived at
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Darrel's house, where would soon become clear just how lucky
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the god and why Darryl makes the perfect fall guy.
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Speaker 3: I'm still good to lost my mother.
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Speaker 7: I'm not straightening any now.
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Speaker 8: And now that now I got.
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Speaker 16: What we're to deal with, Well you aren't lying?
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Speaker 7: And well these are here are all these boxes?
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Speaker 3: Where do you hang out at?
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Speaker 7: Come in there?
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Speaker 23: Hey?
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Speaker 24: I need to ask your favorite, just the one to remember.
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I got your swaps. I need you one more thing.
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Could you just show me your shirt underneath your shirt?
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Speaker 7: Then you don't.
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Speaker 24: I just want to make sure. I do want to
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satisfy myself. I don't think you've ever hurt anybody.
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Speaker 21: Question.
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Speaker 16: Okay, so you.
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Speaker 3: Have any idea when the.
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Speaker 7: Fuel is gonna be? They won't release the body yet.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 21: I was going to see you that.
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Speaker 16: Say where you are?
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Speaker 7: Okay with that?
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Speaker 4: Because suffice that to say. Detective Ward is taken aback
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by Daryl's unusual living situation, but still no scratches, and
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so the investigation takes a step back. There is seemingly
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no one they can tie to the murder. No enemies,
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no leads, nothing, But that's because they're looking at this
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crime completely the wrong way. With the investigation at a standstill,
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officers canvassing the area continue knocking on doors until they
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reached the neighbor directly across the street, just fifty feet
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from the victim's home. It's one of the homes where
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no one answered earlier, and as they approach the front door,
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the homeowner, Rebecca steps outside, unaware that in the next
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few minutes, her life is about to be turned upside down.
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Speaker 10: So I don't know when it actually happened. I know
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that we saw the trucks on or cars or on Sunday.
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So and actually Sunday at like six a m. We
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had to run to the er because my son, the cat,
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I guess we'll sleeping on his face and they start
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each other in the dark. Oh scratched him, and so
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we were worried that it could be bad or impacted onto. Yeah,
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he's fine, It wasn't a big deal. But it was
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just like traumatizing and I was like everybody in the.
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Speaker 4: Car just a few feet away. Thirteen year old Levi
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Cart looks through the living room window and notices his
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mother speaking with police officers. Panicking, he pauses the YouTube
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video he was watching, runs up to his room, and
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locks the door back. Outside, officers begin piecing things together.
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The boy with fresh scratches across his body could very
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well be tied to Sheila's murder. In a few moments,
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the scene where detectives are about to go inside Rebecca's house.
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Unknown to them, what they're about to find inside will
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be nothing like they expect.
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Speaker 15: You. Do you care if we come in or you them?
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Speaker 10: Okay, all right, I do think you can.
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Speaker 3: Problem Come on in.
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Speaker 15: Hey, guys, you want to you want to come out here?
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Speaker 20: I haven't been.
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Speaker 7: There and people who are.
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Speaker 23: Investigating are talking everybody and the.
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Speaker 15: Goodbye.
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Speaker 3: Can I talk to you?
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Speaker 15: Do you want to talk in the living room or do.
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Speaker 7: You want to talk in your room?
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Speaker 3: There are people talk about.
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Speaker 15: Something earlier this year.
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Speaker 20: I know what game are you playing over there?
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Speaker 15: Yeah? Dexter, Oh he's uh, he's cap cutting.
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Speaker 3: Oh, now you are.
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Speaker 25: Down.
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Speaker 4: Naturally, this is not the suspect the detectives were hoping
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to see. As thirteen year old Hunter Cart enters the room,
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realizing they may have jumped to conclusions, the detectives still
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begin to question the boy. Perhaps he knows something, after all, the.
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Speaker 13: One with me, I have your final investigation, and we're
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just talking to people to see if they might have
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heard or seen anything unusual.
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Speaker 15: That happened over the weekend.
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Speaker 7: No. Uh, my brother got into an entry and he
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had to go to the er. I got really sick
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and started vomiting and stuff.
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Speaker 3: So, how are you feeling a lot better?
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Speaker 15: That's good.
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Speaker 7: That whole day was just kind of a burd for everybody.
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Speaker 2: Unless it's something that happened a long time ago that's memorable,
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It's not really something I remember, unless it, like, is
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really really brought up.
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Speaker 4: Although Hunter is unable to provide any new details, he
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seems fairly cooperative and willing to help. His twin brother, Levi,
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on the other hand, is still in his room, refusing
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to come out. Earlier, their mother had mentioned Levi was
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editing Dexter, a crime drama centered around a vigilante serial
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killer they show both detectives are all too familiar with,
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and it's here the detectives would begin to realize their
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initial hunch about Rebecca's sons may not have been a
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coincidence after all.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's usually never quick, but that's actually pretty quick.
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Speaker 1: I was editing Dexter. Sometimes I edit, but he likes
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to make.
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Speaker 7: Videos for Yeah, that the cat that got you there
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on the nose. I don't know.
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Speaker 23: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: That We both started each other because my dad was
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right there was here and okay, so we've been knowing
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for a while that we needed to that we needed
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to cut their nails saying that so us moving, I mean,
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we know everybody knows that cats just are awkwards, So
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us moving, Marshmallow being weird because we're moving. And yes,
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we had a like a play set for them, and
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they we packed it up. So that's also probably another thing.
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So yeah, me and him just randomly solved each other.
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He scraped me on the neck. I'm not sure if
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you can see you.
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Speaker 3: Okay, where else did you get it?
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Speaker 1: He kind of scraped coming on my face a little bit, uh,
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and then mainly my nose, and I was yeah, I
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was just kicking myself up.
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Speaker 7: It was pretty deep.
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Speaker 21: Pretty deep.
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Speaker 1: We went back to the house after we got out
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of the doctor, and then that's we saw the ambulances.
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I don't know a lot of it's a blur because
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I try to clean myself up, so I was distracted
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in power.
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Speaker 4: Interestingly, both brothers use the same word blur when recalling
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the incident, and while traumatic events, even something like death
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of a neighbor can affect memory, what catches officers attention
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far more is the Wayne Levi seems to over explain
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what happened. He claims the deep scratches came from a
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fight with a housecat, something officers find difficult to believe
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given the severity of the wounds. So with this in mind,
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detectives believe that despite their young age, the brothers have
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given them enough probable cause to take the next step.
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The detectives asked to speak with Rebecca outside for a
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moment where they request permission to collect DNA from both
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of her sons. Without much hesitation, she agrees, but when
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the three of them return, one of the brothers would
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have a very different reaction to being tested.
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Speaker 15: Do you might have come? I can explain it to you.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, he's feeling a little over a long time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I don't I've been to enough
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doctors recently.
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Speaker 20: I don't want to know.
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Speaker 13: Have you seen any like crime shows or anything?
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Speaker 7: You know how we kind of do our job.
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Speaker 13: The medical stuff is a little different than the.
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Speaker 7: Law enforce and stuff.
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Speaker 13: But I don't know if she explained to you, but
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we're just gonna swab your cheek and it's not gonna
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go and then the database or anything. But we're gonna
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compare it against stuff that we have that makes sense,
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and it will.
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Speaker 15: Take two seconds. It's just you don't have to do anything.
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Speaker 13: But obviously we're asking everybody on the street, and it
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would be super helpful if you couldn't.
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Speaker 15: Okay, and you're Levi right, you guysis, it would be
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easier if you.
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Speaker 7: Sit down for your legs. I don't have to do
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it first.
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Speaker 10: I can be the any of.
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Speaker 4: The detectives proceed to take DNA swabs from both brothers,
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though Hunter and Rebecca are clearly far more willing to
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cooperate than Levi. But what one of the brothers doesn't
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seem to realize is that the more he talks, the
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more the cart brothers begin to look less like witnesses
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and more like suspects.
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Speaker 2: Just from s yeah you can show them.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, oh yeah.
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Speaker 26: Years ago permission scars doctor Stevenson.
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Speaker 15: It's where they go in and they test that links
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to You're like.
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Speaker 2: What do you guys suspect or what do you guys
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know about what happens?
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Speaker 16: Well, I can tell you this. It shouldn't happen, and
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we need to figure out why it happened so that,
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you know, hopefully we can keep it from happening again,
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because we'd hate to miss some evidence. And if you've
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watched any TV, we don't want to be those cops
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that forgot to do this or look into that.
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Speaker 7: We have watched.
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Speaker 27: You know.
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Speaker 15: It's kind of like.
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Speaker 28: And especially my brother knows a lot, I would say, definitely,
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my brother knows a lot about just the police.
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Speaker 10: In generals to go into the Marines when he gets.
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Speaker 16: Well recruitment, there's always there everybody's looking for. Yeah, there's
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there's a spot for everybody. In my opinion, me.
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Speaker 2: And loss I both agreed that him especially is a
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lot more sure than most kids our age.
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Speaker 16: Oh so you can handle this news, You guys are
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handling pretty well yes.
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Speaker 4: Strangely, Hunter continues offering interesting details without being prompted, insisting
24:08
that the teen brothers are far more mature than most
24:11
kids their age, and when he brings up Levi's injuries,
24:14
Levi becomes visibly uncomfortable, giving his brother a long, chilling stare.
24:21
By the end of the interview, the twins no longer
24:24
seem like ordinary kids to the detectives. Their fascination with
24:28
true crime, gory shows like Dexter, foggy Memory, and of course,
24:32
the hard to explain cat scratches on Levi all point
24:36
towards something deeply unsettling. With DNA collected, investigators return to
24:41
the station to brief the sergeant on everything they've uncovered.
24:44
Now all they can do is wait for the DNA
24:47
results from Darryl, the cart twins, and several neighbors and
24:50
family friends to come back the following day. Still believing
24:53
a deranged killer maybe at work, investigators know that until
24:57
he or they are caught, no one in this quiet
25:00
village is truly safe. The next day, the DNA results
25:08
finally come in and investigators are stunned. Both of Rebecca's
25:12
sons are a match, but that doesn't necessarily mean they
25:15
were both at the scene. According to the forensic analyst,
25:18
the lab cannot tell Levi's DNA apart from hunters because
25:22
identical twins share the same ASTR markers. Needless to say,
25:26
investigators are now facing an extraordinarily rare problem. But even
25:30
with these findings, detectives struggle to process the facts that
25:34
the suspects are only thirteen years old. Not only would
25:37
they have to be deeply disturbed, but they would also
25:39
need the physical strength to carry out a crime this violent.
25:43
Then again, their age could also work in the investigator's favor.
25:46
Teenagers are more likely to slip up, confess to friends
25:49
or family, or leave evidence of their actions somewhere online.
25:53
The problem is detectives have enough probable cause for a
25:56
search warrant, but not enough to formally detec Rebecca or
26:01
either brother, something they absolutely cannot let the family realize. Nevertheless,
26:06
they returned to the family home, hoping they can persuade
26:09
Rebecca to bring her sons to the station, allowing investigators
26:12
to begin searching the house the moment they leave. But
26:15
the situation is incredibly delicate. One wrong move could spook
26:19
the family and shut down the entire investigation.
26:26
Speaker 20: We're back.
26:27
Speaker 15: Yeah, we just walked in the house.
26:32
Speaker 21: You need to come in.
26:33
Speaker 5: What's going on?
26:34
Speaker 15: That'll be great. We have a couple of days to
26:36
talk about.
26:36
Speaker 29: Oh, guys, you just say so as.
27:00
Speaker 15: You're good yet you want to see.
27:01
Speaker 3: Somewhere It's okay, Yeah, just relax.
27:14
Speaker 15: You guys are good. Okay, do you guys want to
27:18
sit down here? Would get more comfortable?
27:22
Speaker 3: Did you get case too?
27:23
Speaker 15: Yes, we literally just walked in the door.
27:26
Speaker 5: We need to talk to essentially each of you, and
27:30
we're wondering if we can go down to the police
27:32
department just we have a better area to talk.
27:35
Speaker 13: Okay, So if you guys want, let's put some shoes
27:39
and socks.
27:40
Speaker 15: On, maybe a cop and then we'll head head that way.
27:44
Speaker 4: Clearly, detectives didn't derive with a strong plan and are
27:48
instead relying heavily on improvisation. Somehow, though, despite not having
27:53
their answers fully prepared, they appear to be succeeding in
27:56
getting the family to the station voluntarily. But that can
27:59
only work for so long before someone catches on.
28:05
Speaker 15: Uh, we need to be getting lawyers or something.
28:08
Speaker 3: I'm feelings less about that.
28:10
Speaker 15: I don't know. You're welcome to call an attorney.
28:15
Speaker 21: Also like, do we have to go.
28:21
Speaker 7: Just like right now?
28:22
Speaker 23: Thing?
28:22
Speaker 15: Or we would like yes, it would make.
28:27
Speaker 3: You don't have to do anything. I suppose right, Okay,
28:33
I don't know. I feel uncomfortable.
28:35
Speaker 15: We get how about we get there. We can explain
28:37
kind of.
28:38
Speaker 5: What's going on, give you some more info and you
28:39
can always you know.
28:41
Speaker 10: Okay, what do you want to going on before we
28:43
head out there?
28:44
Speaker 15: And do you like if we do that outside?
28:46
Speaker 7: Sure?
28:47
Speaker 3: You guys want to wait a second?
28:49
Speaker 15: Is that what you mean? All three of you outside
28:52
if possible?
28:53
Speaker 3: Okay, we just needed we need to go over.
28:55
Speaker 10: Some things in the neighborhood with your name, if we.
28:57
Speaker 7: Could go back to there so we don't have to
28:58
sit in the rain.
28:59
Speaker 17: Yeah, and we got some some pitches I want to
29:02
show you and I'll show you and your sons, and
29:06
there's a bunch of stuff we want to talk to
29:07
you about.
29:08
Speaker 7: So alright, you guys good?
29:11
Speaker 3: Are you in under suspecial for something?
29:14
Speaker 7: We just want to talk to you.
29:15
Speaker 24: I think you guys can help us clear a lot
29:18
of things up around here.
29:19
Speaker 7: So okay, all right, all right, let's go.
29:25
Speaker 30: Hey, John and you'll ride with you? Okay, that works
29:34
for you know, I just got to make sure there's
29:35
nothing on you. It's gonna stick me, toking me, cut me.
29:38
Actually if you want to step over there to him
29:40
right there, all right, you just have a secret there
29:44
for me.
29:50
Speaker 15: Do you have to put this on you for the
29:53
whull three blocks?
29:58
Speaker 7: Probably will Ian's depresional thing that we can't talk about.
30:04
Speaker 15: Yeah, I don't know what's going on.
30:06
Speaker 9: You are.
30:09
Speaker 21: Well, very very.
30:13
Speaker 15: My anxiety levels went.
30:15
Speaker 16: You're well, I don't know why there's so many like
30:19
police vehicles either.
30:21
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's definitely what scared me.
30:24
Speaker 23: Immediately pull up like one person's there, didn't see it
30:28
that got pulled up.
30:30
Speaker 15: And then it's all just like why are they what's
30:33
the reason.
30:34
Speaker 7: Sure, I don't know.
30:35
Speaker 23: Maybe it's an intimidation tactic, I guess, but well I
30:38
don't know why really trying to invest imitate that right.
30:42
Speaker 4: Miraculously, despite the detective sloppy handling of the situation and
30:46
Rebecca's growing skepticism, they still managed to convince the family
30:50
to come to the station. For now, they've purposely kept
30:53
the twins together, hoping the cameras might catch something incriminating.
30:57
But the brothers have seen this tactic before and say nothing,
31:01
foolishly convinced they're out smartening the police. Investigators have also
31:05
just confiscated their phones and obtained house keys from Rebecca,
31:09
allowing them to begin searching the home for any evidence
31:11
tying the boys to the crime. But despite these small victories,
31:15
this is where detectives would face a major reality check
31:18
about their strategy. Upon arriving at the station, the twins
31:23
are quietly escorted through a separate entrance and separated from
31:26
their mother. The twins don't seem particularly worried, calmly following
31:31
detectives into the interrogation rooms, but for Rebecca, the situation
31:36
is very different because the moment she's finally informed that
31:40
her sons are about to be questioned without her present,
31:44
all hell breaks loose.
31:47
Speaker 3: I don't want food.
31:48
Speaker 10: I want answer our lawyer and have my children SAPPI
31:52
questioned without a lawyer process immediately, So.
31:56
Speaker 15: Let's make that happen. What were no? Fuck, They'll get
32:02
that picked up right. We need to have them right now.
32:07
My slippers we just got home from the doctor's office.
32:10
Speaker 3: Those things so comfy.
32:11
Speaker 15: They are compy Amazon.
32:13
Speaker 10: Not uh yeah, people are so gainst early. I know
32:19
you're being friendly. I need to know my children are
32:22
not being plish. Then no, they have a lawyer. You
32:24
didn't let us know that we're being detained.
32:26
Speaker 3: You're not being entertained.
32:27
Speaker 16: You're free to go.
32:28
Speaker 10: You didn't let us know that you were detaining my children.
32:31
They're freely You did not. Right now, They're allowed to leave,
32:35
right now, Let's go right now, right now. You said
32:42
they're allowed to leave, yes or no, you cannot take them.
32:46
Speaker 4: Clearly, this is not how detectives hoped things would go.
32:50
Rebecca is furious, and not without reason. The detective just
32:55
admitted that the boys are free to leave, yet does
32:58
nothing when Rebecca did exactly that. On top of that,
33:02
her phone has been confiscated, making it impossible for her
33:06
to even call the lawyer. It's here that the risk
33:09
behind the detective's strategy, or lack thereof, becomes impossible to ignore.
33:14
The advantage of this approach is that by withholding the
33:17
real reason the boys are there, detectives limit the information
33:20
the suspects can tailor their stories to, making contradictions and
33:24
inconsistencies much easier to catch later. That said, when those
33:28
suspects are miners and detectives need their mother's cooperation. This
33:33
strategy can quickly backfire, undermining trust and damaging the legitimacy
33:37
of the entire process, and unsurprisingly, Rebecca's outrage is only
33:42
beginning as she storms out of the interrogation room in
33:45
search of anyone willing to tell her what's really going on.
33:49
Speaker 10: Are you accusing them of murder enough? Is that why
33:54
they're being detained because they're under suspicion for murder? The question,
33:59
how would they know anything unless you were accusing them
34:03
of murder and you think that they murdered someone. So
34:06
I'm saying, this whole charade, this whole the way we've
34:10
gone about this and approached it and slowly showed things
34:14
to me because I've asked questions and not because you
34:17
are transparent, is not okay. It literally just says we
34:22
have the ability to search all of your belongings. It
34:25
doesn't say.
34:26
Speaker 15: For what reason would they want to search it.
34:28
Speaker 9: The book it.
34:28
Speaker 15: Says murder because we're investigating the murder of the neighbor.
34:33
Speaker 10: And my thirteen year olds have not murdered any Okay, Well,
34:36
we're trying to find a further information that was disabled
34:39
yesterday to put the pieces to the other.
34:41
Speaker 31: So I'm not going to be told by anything.
34:50
Speaker 15: Why am I not being questioned? We would love to
34:53
talk to you, if you would be willing to talk.
34:55
I'm literally standing here waiting.
34:57
Speaker 13: Well, we were trying to talk to you, but you
34:59
want to make one calls and to all those things.
35:00
Speaker 15: If you'd like to talk and talk.
35:02
Speaker 7: You're well aware.
35:06
Speaker 10: Hey, a lot and nothing because I'm not tilling.
35:15
Speaker 15: Soon because I asked for a lawyer for the boys.
35:17
Speaker 3: He's saying because we talked, I'm asking him.
35:21
Speaker 15: Sorry, I'm really working search.
35:22
Speaker 7: I know, I understand, I understand I'd ever liked to
35:25
be working.
35:25
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to I'm just trying to sort it out,
35:27
all right. So I wonder under what grounds are they
35:29
being questioned?
35:29
Speaker 17: What prompted them there was a downe half of the
35:32
I understand that, But what what specifically about our boys
35:36
is causing you guys to bring them to the station
35:38
for questioning those details.
35:40
Speaker 16: I don't know, because those investigations know more about that
35:43
than I did.
35:45
Speaker 17: Are there other Are you guys bringing in every neighbor
35:48
to we did twenty five yesterday?
35:51
Speaker 16: I know myself in another agent to the station. Well,
35:53
I don't know how many people got brought here. This
35:56
is we're also doing a search work cops too, So
35:59
Judges hands us.
36:00
Speaker 3: Search warrant for her house and who else?
36:02
Speaker 16: Well, the search warrant is for the house and the
36:05
Viet Loong the properties.
36:08
Speaker 7: Okay, where there other search warrants for?
36:11
Speaker 17: Enoughingmarse, you guys are questioning two thirteen year old boys.
36:15
Speaker 3: Well, we're not.
36:17
Speaker 15: Someone is.
36:18
Speaker 16: You're absolutely correct, but I don't know what I'm saying
36:20
I do.
36:23
Speaker 15: This is why we need carlaurd Doun here.
36:24
Speaker 3: Now we need to make this happen.
36:26
Speaker 10: I don't have a phone, so this needs to happen
36:30
on your own immediately, whoever we call.
36:33
Speaker 4: After getting little to know answers from the detectives, the
36:36
twins father calls a lawyer, hoping he can intervene, But
36:40
even with legal counsel now on the way, detectives press
36:43
forward with the interviews, fully aware of the risk they're taking.
36:47
At the same time, ever since the boys left with
36:50
the police, a search of their home has been underway,
36:53
and very soon it will begin, yielding crucial evidence for
36:56
the interrogations. As bo brothers wait for their interrogations to begin,
37:02
it quickly becomes clear that one of them is about
37:05
to be treated very differently. Because Hunter had been significantly
37:09
more talkative the day before, detectives opt for a more casual,
37:12
friendly approach, and even his interrogation room reflects that. Levi,
37:17
on the other hand, is placed in a cold, cramped
37:20
room subjected to the kind of interrogation tactics typically reserved
37:23
for an adult suspect. Based on the scratch marks alone,
37:27
detectives strongly suspects Levi is the killer, but there is
37:30
still nothing rolling out the possibility that Hunter may have
37:33
helped him, especially after learning that Levi has significant mobility issues. Now,
37:38
with a lawyer on the way to the station and
37:40
two furious parents pacing outside, the clock is ticking, so
37:45
detectives split into two groups to question the boys simultaneously,
37:49
and as the questioning begins, Hunter's interview escalates far quicker
37:53
than expected because there's something he needs to get off
37:57
his chest to.
37:59
Speaker 3: Say for doing the same.
38:07
Speaker 7: Of course, I feel a little pressured, but I don't
38:09
feel like I.
38:10
Speaker 20: Have to sign those I don't know.
38:12
Speaker 27: It's more suspicious to put on me if I don't
38:15
answer any questions.
38:16
Speaker 3: So, yeah, we're here to talk. I ask questions future story.
38:20
I know you told Wauren a little bit.
38:24
Speaker 27: Yeah, I want to say, I don't think my brother
38:29
would be able to do anything. But because that day
38:34
he got scratches on his face. Because of that day
38:36
he it all seems like a very wide coincidence, because
38:40
of course his cat was face is fat, His face
38:44
was scratify cat.
38:46
Speaker 7: We talked about it, and it certainly looks like Lewis
38:48
has some like the coincidences are there.
38:54
Speaker 4: At this early stage of the interview, Hunter, completely unprompted,
38:58
begins talking about the scratch wounds, which he believes are
39:02
the most concrete evidence against his brother, But while he
39:05
frames it as a coincidence, back at the house, police
39:08
executing the search warrant notice something that immediately casts doubt
39:12
on the story. On Rebecca's bed, they find the family cat, Marshmallow,
39:16
sitting completely calm, but more importantly, the cat's claws seem
39:21
far too small to match the injuries on Levi. This
39:25
information is relayed back to detectives at the station where
39:28
Hunter and Levi are being interviewed, and while Hunter appears
39:31
eager to talk, Levi's interview is moving far more slowly
39:35
as detectives focus on building rapport and choosing their words
39:39
extremely carefully, so seeing just how much more talkative Hunter is,
39:43
investigators keep their focus on him for now, hoping he
39:46
can offer further insight into his brother or perhaps even
39:50
turn on him.
39:52
Speaker 7: Yeah, extra like red scratch marks on his face.
39:57
Speaker 27: I mean, that seems all suspicious, But like I said,
40:01
I don't think he could do something like that. I'm
40:05
gonna keep saying this, but this makes me feel really
40:07
upset because a lot of evidence is piled up against him.
40:10
Speaker 21: But like.
40:12
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know if you guys respect him
40:14
of anything, but.
40:19
Speaker 27: I truly don't believe he he could do anything like that,
40:29
even though he has all these things.
40:32
Speaker 3: He's never talked about anything like that would feel.
40:36
Speaker 15: Because anything like what.
40:39
Speaker 8: About hurting somebody or when he gets triggered, he gets
40:42
upset and acting out in the saying things or you know.
40:46
Speaker 3: I don't know how he behaves.
40:48
Speaker 27: No, No, like I said, No, he doesn't behave weirdly
40:51
or triggered.
40:52
Speaker 7: He just doesn't.
40:55
Speaker 5: He's just.
40:57
Speaker 3: Quiet.
40:57
Speaker 7: It's upsetting for him.
40:58
Speaker 27: Like he started crying when he got back to his
41:03
house because he said he never gives an ex editions
41:08
why he sugar.
41:11
Speaker 4: Interestingly, although Hunter describes the suspicious behavior he's noticed from
41:15
his brother, he continues to insist that Levi could not
41:18
actually be responsible for the murder, but detectives can't tell
41:22
whether his reaction is genuine or part of a calculated
41:25
effort to distance himself from the crime. At this stage,
41:29
though there fairly certain Levi is the culprit, and decide
41:33
it's time to stop speculating and focus on something more concrete,
41:37
so they turned to a key piece of evidence. Hunter
41:39
can't deny something they had kept hidden from the twins,
41:43
a watch recovered from beneath Sheila's body, one investigators initially dismissed,
41:48
but now strongly suspect belongs to one of the two boys,
41:52
and whether he realizes it or not, what he says
41:55
next would see other fate.
41:59
Speaker 16: That's loose, that's loose his watch, all right? What do
42:06
you think about that?
42:07
Speaker 27: Uh?
42:08
Speaker 16: What do you mean by apparently winding it out?
42:10
Speaker 3: And that's the picture?
42:13
Speaker 21: What do you think that's the picture of?
42:17
Speaker 7: Try to get some depressive We don't have any of
42:21
those like this, right, it's not your else. No. I
42:29
remember him saying that he lost his watch, and when
42:32
did he say that?
42:34
Speaker 3: After he.
42:41
Speaker 7: After he got hung.
42:43
Speaker 10: Also, he.
42:46
Speaker 27: He sounded the way he said, I don't know where
42:49
I watched this. I don't feel a person could say that.
42:54
A person say it that way knowing that you know
42:59
they were their watch. When if they did that, are you.
43:05
Speaker 3: Saying he purposely.
43:08
Speaker 15: Hurt?
43:09
Speaker 25: We don't.
43:10
Speaker 7: We don't know what you was.
43:16
Speaker 15: How would you even do that?
43:17
Speaker 7: He's sable.
43:19
Speaker 27: How would you sneak out of the house, get into
43:23
the house, stab somebody?
43:27
Speaker 7: Is it true that he.
43:29
Speaker 10: Them? Is that true?
43:33
Speaker 7: Did you find you in evidence?
43:36
Speaker 3: We're not gonna.
43:38
Speaker 15: There's no way he would do that. There's some stuff
43:40
that happens that details.
43:42
Speaker 3: There's no way.
43:44
Speaker 15: There's no way. If he.
43:53
Speaker 3: Ye, there's no way.
43:57
Speaker 9: M h.
44:01
Speaker 15: There misunders Daddy.
44:12
Speaker 4: At the thought of his own brother being responsible for
44:15
the murder, Hunter appears to completely break down. Detectives realize
44:20
he's now too emotional and overwhelmed to provide any more
44:23
reliable information, so they decide to end the interview. Despite
44:28
failing to secure a confession and not fully rulling him
44:31
out as a suspect, still they've learned something important. More
44:35
insight into Levi and confirmation that his watch was indeed
44:39
at the scene, but just outside the interrogation room. The
44:44
boy's parents continue arguing with deputies and with a lawyer
44:47
coming to intervene. Investigators are running out of time if
44:51
they want to secure an admission before the interview is
44:53
shut down. They know they need to raise the stakes
44:56
with Levi, so the detectives interviewing him finally move on
45:00
from building rapport and shift the conversation to the scratches,
45:03
testing whether his explanation matches the one he gave the
45:06
day before.
45:08
Speaker 9: Do you know what we're investigating?
45:12
Speaker 15: I mean, I know something happened down.
45:14
Speaker 7: The street, across the store, across the street, right in
45:17
front of me.
45:17
Speaker 21: Right, a woman was murdered, right, So we're trying to
45:21
find out what happened.
45:23
Speaker 31: I mean, I've already talked to as the I investigators.
45:26
Speaker 21: My cat had randomly woke me.
45:29
Speaker 16: Up with all the lights off, like sitting on my
45:35
sitting on my neck.
45:37
Speaker 21: So it like scratched my face. I felt very bloody.
45:42
Speaker 31: Obviously, there's a lot of scraps with on me, usually
45:46
because my disability as well.
45:49
Speaker 21: I used like a like a shower chair.
45:53
Speaker 31: Yeah, because I can't really stand for that long without
45:57
getting like super fatigued and falling or walking around for
46:01
too long, and didn't use his powercare. So I didn't
46:03
want to make a bunch of No, I didn't make anybody, yeah,
46:05
wrote So I ended up literally.
46:08
Speaker 4: Falling and I fell and like hit my head on
46:12
the on the power house.
46:15
Speaker 21: Where'd you hear it?
46:16
Speaker 3: U shaped like around here, like right here?
46:21
Speaker 15: So I don't know how I should believe more?
46:24
Speaker 21: Yes, yes.
46:27
Speaker 4: As Levi once again over explains the incident, detectives notice
46:31
he makes a point of emphasizing that the injuries became
46:34
worse after he slipped in the shower. But something else
46:37
in Levi's account immediately stands out. After mentioning his medical condition,
46:42
detectives recall reviewing his records and discovering that Levi has
46:46
cerebro palsy. This brings the detectives back to an earlier question.
46:51
Not only is Levi just thirteen years old, but his
46:54
disability raises serious doubts about whether he was even physically
46:58
capable of carrying out such a violent attack on his own,
47:02
especially considering Shila fought back. Investigators no hunter is physically stronger,
47:07
has no disability, and shares many of the same interests
47:10
in true crime as his brother Levi. At this point,
47:14
detectives are realizing they may have prematurely cleared Hunter, treating
47:18
him more like a witness than a suspect, and in
47:20
doing so, may have lost their chance to implicate him.
47:23
But with the pressure mounting on Levi, this may be
47:26
the perfect opportunity for him to turn on his brother,
47:29
and for the first time during his interview, the bond
47:32
between the twins is about to be truly tested.
47:37
Speaker 31: We get in and like sirteen minutes fifteen, employer Mom
47:44
fartino us firms outside and she opens the window and
47:50
she's like, oh my god, something happens to me, and
47:55
me already in a like a panicked, weird state, I
48:00
kind of started feeling emotionally triggered. And when she said
48:04
there was a bunch of animalss outside, she or I,
48:10
I like started if we got even more I just.
48:14
Speaker 8: Felt even worse because Mom.
48:16
Speaker 31: Had said that something had happened to denise our neighbor
48:19
right in front of us, and I started feeling even
48:23
worse just to the fact of that the same night
48:27
that something happens or something like that had happened, that.
48:35
Speaker 3: I had had an injury of my own.
48:38
Speaker 4: Although Levi never directly blames his twin brother for the murder,
48:41
he seems more focused on how bad the situation already
48:44
looks for him, and as the interview continues, it would
48:48
only get worse because detectives begin receiving critical updates from
48:52
the house search that is still ongoing, and officers have
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started uncovering disturbing items Inside Levi's bedroom, Officers recover a
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journal containing violent writing and repeated references of wanting to
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kill someone. They also uncover a growing obsession with serial killers, books,
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online content, and material saved focused on infamous murderers, and
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in particular, Ted Bundy. Detectives begin to realize this was
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far more than just a morbid curiosity. Over time, what
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began as an interest in true crime had evolved into
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something far darker for Levi, and now detectives are left
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trying to determine whether this interest in violence had consumed
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them both. Because Levi and Hunter are twins, the blood
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DNA recovered at the scene is consistent with both of them,
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something detectives choose to intentionally keep from Levi. Instead, they
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plan to tell him that the DNA points specifically to him,
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hoping this pressure will make him crack. But if Levi
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is the criminal genius he thinks he is, he will
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easily be able to see through the detective's bluff.
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Speaker 21: So you said you've never been in Denise's house, never been, Okay?
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Do you know what DNA is? You ever heard of it?
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I've heard of it, Okay. So we're trying to figure
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out and I want you to help me explain this, Okay,
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Why your blood would be in Denise's house, That's what
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we're trying to figure out. Well, I'm not sure because.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, like.
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Speaker 21: How is it my blood?
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Speaker 3: Like why?
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Speaker 21: That's what we're trying to find out because I don't know.
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Speaker 32: I don't know why it would be in my house.
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Speaker 9: Because, yeah, that's what we're trying to figure out.
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Speaker 21: That's why we're even here right now.
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Speaker 9: Remember we got those swabs from you, Well, we compared
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that to the blood in the house, and it's not
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only her blood, it's your blood mixed in with it
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through DNA testing.
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Speaker 21: I don't know what explanation I could give you or
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even come up with that.
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Speaker 15: Will be.
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Speaker 21: Equivalent to how that would happen. There's only one person here.
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Speaker 3: That knows, and.
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Speaker 21: If you, how do you know that? Because there's no
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other way that part of you can be in that
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house without you never being in there. I can't agree
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with that, right, So that's why I just need an
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explanation as to how I'm just trying to wrap my
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brain around you know, Well I have to wrap my
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brain around it first. Yeah, either, So that's we need
51:35
to wrap around together.
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Speaker 7: You know.
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Speaker 21: Can you help me that? I can't? If you help me,
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I can help you if you help me. I don't
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help you if I telling me the truth.
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Speaker 32: I told you that your though, I don't think you're
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telling me all the truth. But on my arm, well,
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I think you're about how you get hurt. We have
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your blood in her house and we're trying to figure out.
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Speaker 3: How go there.
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Speaker 21: That's the bottom line. Well what's the bottom line?
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Speaker 15: Are you sure to get my blood from somewhere?
52:13
Speaker 21: We don't need your blood? We got swaps.
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Speaker 6: I just mean, like, did you did somebody put my
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blood in that house for a reason?
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Speaker 28: I don't know?
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Speaker 21: Would you tell me? Would they?
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Speaker 15: I didn't put your I have any enemy.
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Speaker 21: I didn't put your blood there.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm only thirteen. I don't know why anybody
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would put my blood in a house. But I mean,
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you know, is there any more fusting you have to
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me or like what?
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Speaker 21: Well, I just I want to get past this, and
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we're not getting past it. You don't know, I don't know,
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so we're not resolving anything. Well, I'm not sure if
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we cameras all of it. If I don't know, you
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don't know them, I need to listen.
52:57
Speaker 8: I I whole heartedly believe that there's two types of
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people in this world. You've got monsters, You've got people.
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Speaker 9: Who make mistakes.
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Speaker 21: M I think I agree with the person of them.
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Help us explain this. What do you disagree with about that?
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Speaker 23: Stick?
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Speaker 21: I just think that you know, there's there's a lot
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of different types of people in the world. There's not
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monsters and people who commit mistakes.
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Speaker 8: Well, I'm simplifying things in terms of you know, a
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crime a murder, right, there's two types of people who
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would commit a murder. There's a monster and there's people
53:31
who make mistakes.
53:33
Speaker 21: Like an example of the.
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Speaker 31: With a murder, then it would be a monster, right,
53:39
not necessarily, you don't think.
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Speaker 4: You still believing he's in control of the situation. Levin
53:46
never asks for a lawyer or even his mother, and
53:49
unsurprisingly fails to catch the detective's bluff about his DNA.
53:54
But while Levi remains convinced he's outsmarted the police, he
53:57
has no idea that well the evidence on in his
54:00
room is already damning enough. What detectives are about to
54:03
find on his phone will destroy any chance of walking free,
54:07
because before long, detectives would receive the final and most
54:11
crucial breakthrough in the investigation. After searching the brother's phones
54:17
and social media activity, it begins to uncover a disturbing
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picture just one day after the murder. Levi writes, this
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one was a fighter, and detectives realize this wasn't a
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spur of the moment act. Levi had been planning a
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murder for months, with searches of how to choose the
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perfect victim, how to strangle someone, and how to defeat
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a police interrogation, and they would uncover even more evidence
54:43
tying Levi directly to the scene. Not only was the
54:47
watch confirmed to be Levi's, but inside his room they
54:50
discovered a shirt covered in Sheila's blood and gloves matching
54:54
the ones from the crime scene. Now, even without a
54:58
full confession. Detectives know oh, they have enough evidence to
55:01
formally charge him with this. Both interrogations finally come to
55:05
an end, and as a detective steps out to inform
55:08
the parents that one of their young sons is an
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alleged killer, all they can do is stand in shock,
55:13
silently waiting to hear their son's fate.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, this is their doubt.
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Speaker 18: Especially the ward would be spurou criminal investigation. And we
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see two of my colleagues here, my other colleague. Now,
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this is certain thing we're going to tell you that
55:32
we have that are bad?
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Speaker 7: Okay?
55:36
Speaker 21: All right? That watch that we showed you was under
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her body? What what?
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Speaker 25: Oh?
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Speaker 15: Okay, I have more things to tell me.
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Speaker 25: Okay, I don't know what in the world happened. He's
55:59
we're not talking him anymore. I mean, he doesn't want
56:02
to really talk anymore. I don't know what happened.
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Speaker 20: You're cooking.
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Speaker 7: Well, we have a lot of other evidence too.
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Speaker 21: I'm just trying to figure out what the world.
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Speaker 20: I don't know. No, no, okay, sorry, what else?
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Speaker 15: I'm not doing this too, I don't think you are.
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Speaker 21: I'm just trying to do my job. What happens now,
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I'm consulting because it's a county prosecutor's office.
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Speaker 28: He's only.
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Speaker 10: Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god.
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Speaker 7: I know, I know, I know.
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Speaker 33: Oh no, I feel like overnsel.
57:28
Speaker 4: After finally learning what their son had done, Levi's family
57:32
are left to come to terms with a devastating reality
57:35
with the overwhelming evidence against him. On November tenth, twenty
57:39
twenty five, Levi Kart ultimately pleads guilty to aggravated murder,
57:43
aggravated burglary, and strangulation in the killing of Shila Tenpenny,
57:47
and because of his age, Levi receives the maximum sentence
57:51
allowed under juvenile law. He will remain in a juvenile
57:54
facility until he turns twenty one, meaning he is expected
57:58
to be released in two thousand thirty three. But for
58:01
Sheila's family, the outcome still doesn't feel like justice. Under
58:05
juvenile sentencing laws, Levi cannot legally remain incarcerated beyond that age,
58:10
and at Levi's sentencing, the lead investigator warned the court,
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telling the judge he made a mistake. It was good
58:17
luck for us that he did, but in the future
58:20
is he going to learn from those mistakes? That's what
58:22
I'm concerned about. For the detectives involved in the investigation,
58:26
there remains a terrifying possibility that Sheila was not the
58:29
end of Levi's violence, but only the beginning of what
58:33
he could be capable of. And while this case left
58:36
Ohio shaken by a killer no one ever expected, our
58:39
next case unfolds somewhere danger is never supposed to reach.
58:44
Inside Saint Vincent North Hospital, more than a dozen gunshots
58:48
sent patients and doctors into lockdown as swant officers move
58:52
floor by floor searching for the shooters.
59:00
Speaker 15: Okay, this way, that way, just going that way.
59:05
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59:09
a maze of hallways to secure, police are forced into
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