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Love Island (EP 19): Go Ahead And Call It “Orgy Island” · I Do, Part 2

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Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, it is Wednesday, June twenty fourth and
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Speaker 1: season eight, episode nineteen of Love Island is in the
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Speaker 1: books and in a word, yea, And with that, welcome
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Speaker 1: to this episode of Amy and TJ Roads. It's back.
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Speaker 1: It's back. I had a few episodes we were doing okay,
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Speaker 1: love the relationship.
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Speaker 2: Stuff going so well, and there are still really good
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Speaker 2: relationship discussable moments sprinkled throughout. It's just these challenges, they're
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Speaker 2: one upping one another in the level of ick and
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Speaker 2: I actually feel like this one, this episode's challenge was
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Speaker 2: deliberately designed to skiv everybody out, even the villain, the.
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Speaker 3: Villa and the islanders.
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Speaker 2: They were literally screaming, closing their eyes, also egging them on,
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Speaker 2: but even they were appalled at what they were saying.
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Speaker 1: Why you said it was intentionally meant to skive us out?
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Speaker 1: Wy would anybody want to do that? Why would any
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Speaker 1: producer want to do that? Why? Baby? It seems like
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Speaker 1: they're trying to create conflict, Like why it's so much
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Speaker 1: of the complaints we have a lot of reality as
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Speaker 1: like they put them in situations, put them with alcohol,
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Speaker 1: and just try to be explosive as possible. They're setting
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Speaker 1: up very explosive relationship dynamics to get people pissed instead
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Speaker 1: of like, we're not trying to find love, we're trying
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Speaker 1: to find conflicts. Wow, this isn't that you don't have
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Speaker 1: to do this to enjoy the show and see people
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Speaker 1: trying to make legitimate love connections. You put these people
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Speaker 1: robes in this position to piss off to one up,
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Speaker 1: to compete to see who can hurt the other people's
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Speaker 1: feelings most by making out with somebody else. I hate this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this challenge was tough because I'm assuming all of
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Speaker 2: y'all have already seen it, but they basically let in
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Speaker 2: real time you know how your partner, the guy or
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Speaker 2: the gal you were coupled up with in the island,
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Speaker 2: how they were doing in terms of making out with
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Speaker 2: And it's way more than making out, but just getting
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Speaker 2: sexy and sexual with a new person. By basically seeing
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Speaker 2: a barometer of just how sexy and steamy things are
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Speaker 2: getting while you're making out with someone else.
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Speaker 1: You're trying to out do the person you're in a
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Speaker 1: couple with. With somebody else, it's that you're trying to
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Speaker 1: make out so hard with this new person that you
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Speaker 1: are graded better than your actual partner making out with
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Speaker 1: somebody roams. They're up in the ante to make you
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Speaker 1: make your partner feel as bad as possible.
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Speaker 2: And it worked. I hate this and it worked because
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Speaker 2: that was exactly what whoever didn't win walked away to
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Speaker 2: their confessional saying, man, all I can think about is
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Speaker 2: who is this other person?
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Speaker 3: And what were they doing with my person?
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Speaker 1: Okay? And it worked anyway. We actually did not watch
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Speaker 1: last night. We were exhausted, so we didn't watch it
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Speaker 1: night of. We watched it this morning and Sabine, our
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Speaker 1: thirteen year old, was on her way to school and
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Speaker 1: she had watched Date up late, watched and she sent
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Speaker 1: us a message and she said, you're gonna hate it.
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Speaker 1: Ding ding ding ding, ding ding ding ding ding correct
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Speaker 1: ding ing ing ing ing ding ding Rose. This was
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Speaker 1: I give them credit. And there wasn't as much relate.
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Speaker 1: There was some stuff in here and I maybe we
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Speaker 1: should get to the stuff that I liked and we
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Speaker 1: smiled about and it was fun and it was real.
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Speaker 1: But just they're gonna stick with this. They think it's working,
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Speaker 1: they like it, they're setting records it with viewership.
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Speaker 2: And the worst part about it is it looked the
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Speaker 2: kissing were so done with, but you know what, There
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Speaker 2: was licking, there was biting, there was feet involved again
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Speaker 2: for the second time. Kenzy got in her splits all
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Speaker 2: over this man's body like it was I just and
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Speaker 2: then oh, we didn't even say. It ended with a
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Speaker 2: full blown orgy, like actual orgy with clothes on, where
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Speaker 2: people were switching women on women. It was I think
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Speaker 2: one of the craziest things I've ever seen on television.
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Speaker 1: You couldn't get away with his own broadcast television, for sure,
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Speaker 1: and that's fine, But I just they're making a choice,
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Speaker 1: and I guess their numbers are reflecting the success of
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Speaker 1: the show, and maybe the point is to get everybody
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Speaker 1: talking like, oh my god, did you see that? Even
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Speaker 1: if it's not positive, you're talking about it correct, So
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Speaker 1: maybe that's enough. It really is a turn off for
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Speaker 1: me right now from the show. Is it gonna make
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Speaker 1: me stop watching? It hasn't yet. We're invested here, but
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Speaker 1: it sure makes you fast forward, it makes.
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Speaker 2: You it walked out of the room in a couple moments.
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Speaker 2: I just couldn't watch it anymore.
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Speaker 1: But Romes, it doesn't feel like that. It feels like
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Speaker 1: some of the connections. The relationships are intentionally being sabotaged
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Speaker 1: at a hundred and it's on them. Yes, it's on
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Speaker 1: Sincere and Melanie. It's on them to make a decision.
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Speaker 1: With the new people that come in. They can decide
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Speaker 1: not to go do the making out where you're gonna
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Speaker 1: sit there on the couch when everybody else got up
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Speaker 1: and did the thing. The producers are telling you, you have
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Speaker 1: to do this, you gotta go harder. You can't expect
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Speaker 1: them to sit it out. But man, ro it's setting
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Speaker 1: up a very explosive and not real world scenario that
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Speaker 1: couples deal with.
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Speaker 2: Could the argument be made that they're being tested in
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Speaker 2: extreme ways so that when they are back together or
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Speaker 2: when they do leave the villa, that they have actually
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Speaker 2: been through some pretty incredible challenges in a short period
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Speaker 2: of time that have been exceptional, intense, and beyond anything
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Speaker 2: perhaps you would be tempted with in the real world.
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Speaker 1: We don't know, absolutely not, because in the real world,
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Speaker 1: I don't end up at another house for four days
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Speaker 1: in just my swim trunks and she's just in launer loss. Yes, Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's much better description than when I'm talking about no
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Speaker 1: that's not real world. Again, it's just a game. It's
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Speaker 1: just a show, just supposed to be silly. But Rhodes,
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Speaker 1: I you, a lot of people get invested in hoping
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Speaker 1: some of these people make it and some of these
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Speaker 1: people are gonna be okay. So when I see them
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Speaker 1: being manipulated in the most discuss of wait, it's just
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Speaker 1: a show. Producers know what they're doing. This is the hit.
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Speaker 1: It's just don't they're not making it for me.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And they're young, and they're immalleable and gullible, and they're
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Speaker 2: going along with it all, and they're getting into it,
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Speaker 2: and they're in a bubble, and they're cut off from
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Speaker 2: their friends and family, and they might be making choices
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Speaker 2: that they wouldn't have otherwise. In fact, I believe one
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Speaker 2: of the women looked to cameras and sorry, mom and dad,
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Speaker 2: just fast forward through this.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember what you talked about. But Rome,
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Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's the show. I mean, I don't
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Speaker 1: know what to say about.
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Speaker 3: Where does it go from here? I guess would be.
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Speaker 2: Look, we already know all about sex, we already know
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Speaker 2: about who's slept with whom, we know about French fries,
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Speaker 2: We see everybody basically swapping bodily fluids with one another
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Speaker 2: on a regular basis. Where could they even take it
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Speaker 2: in terms of being provocative. I feel like they've maxed
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Speaker 2: out and gone even beyond where they should have.
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Speaker 1: They have been simulated sex acts last night with some
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Speaker 1: of the worsts were last night, and this is that's
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Speaker 1: not an overstatement that I might be putting it too lightly.
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Speaker 1: There were simulated sex acts, feet in people's mouths. Corbyn
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Speaker 1: had his face licking a woman's butt that he met
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Speaker 1: a day or two ago. Robes. There was one time
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Speaker 1: Trinity had her own hand in her mouth, sucking on
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Speaker 1: her fingers.
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Speaker 3: I actually was gagging some of this.
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Speaker 1: This wasn't just a makeout of sweet makeout section session.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't Is it hot? Is that sexy?
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Speaker 2: I was just gonna ask you that because for me,
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Speaker 2: and I mean, everyone's got their own opinions, but I
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Speaker 2: don't think that any of that was sexy at all.
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Speaker 3: It was repulsive to.
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Speaker 1: Me, every bit of it. Yeah, these are actually good
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Speaker 1: looking people, Yeah, who look ugly as hell on TV.
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Speaker 1: And what you're doing it's just I get it's skinny.
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Speaker 1: It's just a game. Everybody just relax. It's just a game,
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Speaker 1: just doing the thing. It's just not what I like
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Speaker 1: to see. I'm actually hoping and rooting for Sincere and Melanie.
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Speaker 1: Rooting for them, you know why, because I'm I've been
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Speaker 1: riding with them and I've seen all they've gone through.
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Speaker 1: This is this is it's unfair to that relationship. And
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Speaker 1: I guess what we're supposed to say is Melanie and
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Speaker 1: Sincere can always make the decision to back off and
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Speaker 1: not pursue anything else. Okay, fine, you really think they're
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Speaker 1: not getting encouragement, Oh, there absolutely seems to make sure.
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Speaker 2: And I've never seen a season like this where it's
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Speaker 2: very clear that the producers are encouraging and the group
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Speaker 2: thing takes over where you've got everybody, like, you know,
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Speaker 2: banging the drum, going whoo, trying to get the barometer
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Speaker 2: to go up higher to win the competition. So everyone's
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Speaker 2: egging each other on. You can see how this happens.
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Speaker 2: But just all the back and forth and look, some
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Speaker 2: of the Islanders talk about how it is weird to
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Speaker 2: have feelings for more than one person, to be in
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Speaker 2: a situation where it's totally okay and encouraged to be
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Speaker 2: actively dating multiple people at the same time, telling them
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Speaker 2: how you feel and not knowing who or which one
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Speaker 2: you like better.
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Speaker 1: All of the guys and all the girls like their
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Speaker 1: original person better. Maybe n is the only exception and Casey.
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Speaker 1: I think Casey's coming around and realizing what he's got
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Speaker 1: over in the other villa. Really, I think he's gonna
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Speaker 1: there are some cracks I saw in there, but I
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Speaker 1: think there's a chance he's starting to realize. Certainly all
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Speaker 1: the other fellas. Corbyn is the only one, but obviously
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Speaker 1: sincere Zach, Bryce, Casey, yes' who am I missing? Corbyn?
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Speaker 1: And Caleb and poor Caleb.
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Speaker 2: Caleb, Oh yes, poor Caleb.
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Speaker 3: Oh yes, Okay, where do you want to start?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we when we come back, let's go over Okay,
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Speaker 2: we had to get all of because we just finished watching.
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Speaker 2: We had to get the orgy stuff out first. When
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Speaker 2: we come back, we're going to talk about the relationship
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Speaker 2: side of things where we actually did learn something. And
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Speaker 2: I'm curious what you think about where some of these
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Speaker 2: guys and gals stand about what happens when they all
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Speaker 2: go back to the villa together and meet back up.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to our Love Island. Edition of Amy
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Speaker 2: and TJ. We are up to episode nineteen. It was
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Speaker 2: the grossest one yet. But before we got to the challenge,
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Speaker 2: we actually were learning a lot about the ever changing
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Speaker 2: feelings of the men and the women about one another
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Speaker 2: after they've been now tempted, exposed to new blood. And
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Speaker 2: I will say both Corbyn and k C both said
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Speaker 2: at one point that the girls will.
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Speaker 3: Corbyn definitely said it.
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Speaker 2: He said the girls here are better than the girls
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Speaker 2: back at the villa. And I was like, oOoOO, those
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Speaker 2: are fighting words.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't even it wasn't even received well when it.
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Speaker 2: Was uttered, and it wasn't necessary to say unnecessary.
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Speaker 1: How could he think that? By the way, no offense
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Speaker 1: to the new women, But he said the women at
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Speaker 1: the new place are better than the ones at the
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Speaker 1: other place. He's caught up with Parmita right now.
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Speaker 2: He's all up in Parmita right now. Literally, yes, in
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Speaker 2: every way possible. But kse he was doing the same thing.
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Speaker 2: And look, we talked about it. You said, well, this
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Speaker 2: is what he's supposed to do. But he went and
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Speaker 2: told one lady t T he's all under her, and
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Speaker 2: he was. Then he goes and sits her down and says, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask the other girl to spend the night
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Speaker 2: with me, Sydney. And then he wakes up the next
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Speaker 2: morning and says, yeah, I'm not really into Sydney. I
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Speaker 2: think I'm going back to t T. And now he's
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Speaker 2: trying to decide who he likes better. T T or
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Speaker 2: any TT was the original Tira.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, now t T. There we go, good relationship moment.
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Speaker 1: TT known this guy for a day or two, she slept,
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Speaker 1: they were in the bed the first night, correct, and
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Speaker 1: he picked switched and tried somebody else. Okay, surely that
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Speaker 1: hurt her feelings, but it's what he's supposed to do
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Speaker 1: to feel things out robes. We both said oh. When
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Speaker 1: he had to tell her he was going to try
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Speaker 1: another woman in the bed the next night.
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Speaker 2: It didn't go over well, but.
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Speaker 1: It was I think it's a fan for her to
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Speaker 1: feel what she felt.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and because she made herself her feelings very well
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Speaker 2: known because they've been watching the show, so these women
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Speaker 2: knew who they wanted going into it, and so she
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Speaker 2: wanted k.
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Speaker 1: C and made it clear from the job and look,
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Speaker 1: so she.
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Speaker 2: Was very vulnerable and she got her feelings hurt. Then
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Speaker 2: they started going ooh, she acted worse than Anaya started
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Speaker 2: like throwing her under the bus. Then he realizes, yeah,
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Speaker 2: maybe Sidney's not my gal goes back to TT. But
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Speaker 2: here's what the red flag for me was with Kse.
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Speaker 2: He was when he was describing her and comparing her
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Speaker 2: to Anaya, he was like, well, Aniya didn't pick me.
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Speaker 2: T T picked me. T T makes me feel wanted.
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Speaker 2: And look, that is basically how most people operate it
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Speaker 2: when they choose who they want to be with. It's
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Speaker 2: how you make them feel. So look, I feel like
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Speaker 2: and we're hearing Anaya saying she misses k c.
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Speaker 3: Anaya is not. She's with Carl, but.
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Speaker 1: I just I don't know.
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Speaker 2: The guys kissed once. But she is holding out for Casey.
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Speaker 2: I think that is going to be one of these
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Speaker 2: really tough ones when it comes to who they choose.
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Speaker 2: I do think there's a strong possibility Casey is going
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Speaker 2: to bring Tierra back and Anaya is not going to
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Speaker 2: pick anybody. Wait, Casey's going to t T. I keep
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Speaker 2: getting make it, that's tah, It's the same thing. Sorry,
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Speaker 2: but I think Casey's gonna bring t T back. You
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Speaker 2: think he's gonna stick with Anaya.
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Speaker 1: I think there's a chance he's going to come around.
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Speaker 1: There were some cracks I saw in him, and he
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Speaker 1: softened a little bit in his pursuit of t T. Right.
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Speaker 1: He was all hot and bothered when he got in there.
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Speaker 1: He was upset with Anaya. He's letting it all out,
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Speaker 1: letting it loose. He's going out and having a good time.
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Speaker 1: But then I think the dust is starting to settle robes.
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Speaker 1: And I think it really turned him off with t
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Speaker 1: T when she got upset, right.
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Speaker 2: Which is what most people do when they're invested in someone.
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Speaker 1: And even though we get the game and know what
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Speaker 1: it is, I thought that was a very human moment.
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Speaker 1: And I thought even though she was upset, she didn't yell,
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Speaker 1: she didn't cry, she didn't curse. But I think it
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Speaker 1: turned him off a little bit to be challenged again,
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Speaker 1: like another woman is upset with something I did. Even
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Speaker 1: though he knew he was wrong. I think he knew
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Speaker 1: because of how he was kind of answering, come on, bruh, bruh,
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Speaker 1: it kind of stop, bro. He kept saying that. But
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Speaker 1: she came back the next day and apologize. Man, she
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Speaker 1: did that. I don't know how old she is. She
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Speaker 1: showed me something in that movie.
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Speaker 2: Well it's true, and you know what the the I
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Speaker 2: will say this leading up into that moment when she
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Speaker 2: apologized she ended up in bed with Bryce and everybody
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Speaker 2: has to couple up, and they had a shot at
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Speaker 2: one point of her kind of cuddling up with Bryce,
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Speaker 2: and Bryce looks at her and says, I'm sorry, I'm
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Speaker 2: just thinking about her.
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Speaker 3: Trinity. He is like a love sick puppy.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so right now, go ahead and put this out there.
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Speaker 1: This is Bryce and Trinity's game to lose one. Hun
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Speaker 1: just guaranteed a win by that behavior yesterday.
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Speaker 2: Agreed and Trinity because it all feels very And then
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Speaker 2: Trinity is sitting there saying, you know that she is
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Speaker 2: thinking about Bryce the entire time in tears. In tears,
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Speaker 2: So the two of them, I do actually think I'm rooting.
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Speaker 1: For them independent of each other. I like them, but
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Speaker 1: not knowing either would ever see what they're saying in
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Speaker 1: that confessional. They said that they are You're clear front runners.
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Speaker 1: If they can just get back together, this is going
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Speaker 1: to be beneficial for them. I'm all about Oh that
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Speaker 1: Trinity is a special one.
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Speaker 3: I agree she let the guy down as well, honest Yes,
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Speaker 3: and the other thing. Okay, we have two other things
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Speaker 3: to talk about.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about poor Caleb caught in a love
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Speaker 2: triangle once again and just honestly cut his losses.
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Speaker 3: This time.
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Speaker 2: He knew he was going to lose. He was with
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Speaker 2: Permita at first. There is a shot of the three
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Speaker 2: of them on the couch. It is Caleb, Permita and
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Speaker 2: then Corbyn. Corbyn and Perimeter are all over each other
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Speaker 2: taking selfies and he's just sitting there so awkwardly the
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Speaker 2: third wheel.
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Speaker 3: It was hilarious. So he cut his losses.
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Speaker 1: Good on him this time, right, It was uh he
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Speaker 1: saw it. Come, it's just we like everybody likes Caleb. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we just can't. We've been wanting him to go home
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Speaker 1: to Vana mcgir girl.
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Speaker 2: Well he moved on to the other blonde, so he
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Speaker 2: is now with Yeah, she looked you know what, you
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Speaker 2: nailed it. You said, she looks just like Jessica Alba
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Speaker 2: with blonde hair. I actually like, next time you look
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Speaker 2: at Jaden is her name? If as soon as you
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Speaker 2: said that, it's all I can see Jessica Alba with
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Speaker 2: blonde hair.
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Speaker 3: But they actually seem pretty well suited to each other.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they seem okay, she was the one apologized to
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Speaker 1: her parents after one of the Yes.
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Speaker 2: She is the one who apologized to her parents. Oh
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Speaker 2: my god, I cannot even imagine. Okay, and then this
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Speaker 2: other ridiculous thing we're watching, and you even said you
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Speaker 2: recognize the look in Sincere's eyes. But they did a
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Speaker 2: really good job, the editors did. They don't have a
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Speaker 2: lot of time, so I'm so impressed. But they were
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Speaker 2: literally going back and forth between Melanie and now she's
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Speaker 2: into Corey, right, so that was who Trinity said, no thanks,
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Speaker 2: So she and Corey are. He's trying to do a
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Speaker 2: hard sell on himself to her, too hard.
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Speaker 1: He needs to pipe down a little bit.
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Speaker 2: And conversely, you've got t t making a hard self
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Speaker 2: of herself to Sincere.
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Speaker 1: It's been two days. You're not falling for me.
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Speaker 3: Well, it sounded like she was right down.
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Speaker 2: So now you're listening to mel talked respond to coryus him.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm the guy for you. You need a
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Speaker 3: man like me.
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Speaker 2: You need a man who's dominant, who can handle you, basically,
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Speaker 2: who can manage you. And then you've got t T
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Speaker 2: telling Sincere like, you know, basically, I'm your girl, and
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be there for you and I can
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Speaker 2: love you.
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Speaker 3: And you said you saw a look on Sincere's face.
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Speaker 1: He did not want to be next to her, No
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Speaker 1: offense to her. But everybody can probably relate to at
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Speaker 1: some point in your life. Yes, there has been somebody
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Speaker 1: you're in a relationship with that they want to be
18:01
Speaker 1: up under you or snuggle with you or cuddorled with you,
18:03
Speaker 1: and you know you don't want to be close to
18:06
Speaker 1: this person.
18:07
Speaker 3: You might not have a terrible feeling.
18:09
Speaker 1: You can't. They're not doing necessarily anything wrong, and in fact,
18:13
Speaker 1: you think you should want to reciprocate, and it feels
18:16
Speaker 1: even worse. He is he wants to go back to
18:20
Speaker 1: that villa and see Melanie right now.
18:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, that's a done deal.
18:25
Speaker 1: He's got nothing, he's not in it. He's trying to
18:29
Speaker 1: be nice. Yes, he's making out with her, but he
18:33
Speaker 1: I just don't see him.
18:34
Speaker 2: His language even he was like I'm so he was
18:37
Speaker 2: basically saying, I'm so happy you've allowed me to explore
18:39
Speaker 2: my feelings. He never like, basically, thank you for letting
18:43
Speaker 2: me use you to confirm that I want to be
18:45
Speaker 2: with Melanie. I mean that was what I read through
18:48
Speaker 2: what he was saying, and the fact that she didn't
18:49
Speaker 2: pick up on that was interesting to her.
18:51
Speaker 1: She did, Oh she did? So is this the first
18:55
Speaker 1: and I missed it? I think we were watching fairly closely?
18:57
Speaker 1: Was there in a see your analogy in this?
19:01
Speaker 3: Oh?
19:02
Speaker 1: This is maybe not analogy?
19:04
Speaker 3: Here's one?
19:05
Speaker 1: Oh, then you know he's he's.
19:08
Speaker 2: He's off, he's almost Melanie, she's his, she's his metaphor used.
19:13
Speaker 2: I guess he needs to give back with mel because
19:15
Speaker 2: we need the metaphors because.
19:16
Speaker 3: They are amazing.
19:18
Speaker 2: Okay, So if anyone and will end it on this,
19:22
Speaker 2: if anyone.
19:23
Speaker 1: Well before I have questions too. If you want to
19:25
Speaker 1: make this the grand I have a questions for a woman.
19:28
Speaker 1: We can do it at the end. A wee can wait?
19:29
Speaker 3: Do you ask me your questions first?
19:30
Speaker 1: Okay? My question? Do women call each other bitches like
19:36
Speaker 1: this all the time? And does it bother some women
19:39
Speaker 1: to hear other women? Sometimes it's positive and sometimes it's negative.
19:42
Speaker 1: But women just so freely flat and call each other
19:45
Speaker 1: bitches like this?
19:46
Speaker 3: So it's the Yes, it's gen Z.
19:49
Speaker 2: The Zuomers and I say this because I know I
19:50
Speaker 2: hear Avan analyse Ava more than analyse. But they'll call
19:54
Speaker 2: each other bitches, they'll call each other. They'll say that's
19:57
Speaker 2: very they use words. It's that whole rea claiming a
20:00
Speaker 2: word that was negative. Now I can say it now
20:03
Speaker 2: men can't say it. Uh, you know what gay men
20:06
Speaker 2: can like in the circles, like gay men can call
20:09
Speaker 2: we can.
20:09
Speaker 3: All call each other that word.
20:11
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not somebody who speaks like that typically,
20:15
Speaker 2: but I hear it all the time. It doesn't bother me.
20:17
Speaker 2: It's what girls, it's it's like you're my girl, but
20:20
Speaker 2: you just say hey.
20:22
Speaker 1: But I hear them say they've said it positively to
20:24
Speaker 1: their own girls, but also about other women as bitches,
20:27
Speaker 1: And it was I.
20:28
Speaker 2: Say this bitch, then that's obviously negative.
20:31
Speaker 1: But they've been using in both ways, positively and negatively.
20:34
Speaker 1: I just didn't I'm even meaning to ask you for
20:36
Speaker 1: the last couple of episodes.
20:37
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a total thing now, it's though that
20:40
Speaker 2: word has been reclaimed. It speaks of like female kinship. Basically,
20:44
Speaker 2: you're my you know, we're all bitches together. But yes,
20:46
Speaker 2: if you say this be then that's a totally different, meaning, uh,
20:50
Speaker 2: just you got to pay attention to the inflection and
20:52
Speaker 2: who it is you're talking about.
20:54
Speaker 1: Other thing. What did you think it was, Jessica Albush?
20:56
Speaker 1: You said I've never cooked for a man. Oh yeah,
21:00
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just stopped for a second.
21:02
Speaker 1: She's very young, and that's okay. Is I don't think
21:05
Speaker 1: she was trying. She was just asked about I'm not
21:07
Speaker 1: sure how it came up. But is that a thing?
21:11
Speaker 1: Is that just a random thing? Did you think anything
21:13
Speaker 1: of it when you heard it?
21:14
Speaker 2: It did catch My radar was up. And I do
21:18
Speaker 2: think it also speaks to this generation of women where look,
21:22
Speaker 2: they're going against the stereotype.
21:24
Speaker 3: Our mothers cooked for our fathers.
21:25
Speaker 2: I mean, at least mine did, and most of my
21:28
Speaker 2: friend's moms cooked for their fathers. And so now you've
21:31
Speaker 2: got a whole crop of women saying I've never cooked
21:33
Speaker 2: for a man, and they're proud of it. So I
21:35
Speaker 2: do think there was a little bit too that. And
21:38
Speaker 2: if I did cook for a man, it would be special.
21:40
Speaker 2: It's not because I have to or I'm supposed to.
21:43
Speaker 2: It only be because I want to. And I do
21:45
Speaker 2: think that that is part of this whole recorrecting or
21:49
Speaker 2: overcorrecting perhaps what stereotypical norms have been for so long.
21:53
Speaker 1: No, maybe it's just correcting, and maybe some people think
21:56
Speaker 1: this correction should be made. My mom cooked for my dad.
21:59
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. I'm gonna have a
22:02
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dry hump a guy on National TV.
22:05
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take back my power.
22:06
Speaker 1: That's right.
22:07
Speaker 2: Mama couldn't do it like hoe status.
22:10
Speaker 1: No, come, it's a game, it's a game. No, no, no,
22:13
Speaker 1: I think that.
22:14
Speaker 2: Is the thing though, Like people say what we've seen, Sure,
22:17
Speaker 2: it's people proud like they're going against slut shaming basically,
22:21
Speaker 2: and so you're saying I own this, I do this.
22:23
Speaker 3: This is me.
22:24
Speaker 2: I'm a sexual being and I can do whatever I
22:26
Speaker 2: want to whomever I want, as long as it's consensual.
22:30
Speaker 1: Which is true. But I would never look at that
22:32
Speaker 1: and call like, I'm not looking at you and saying
22:35
Speaker 1: slut We say slut shaming, because what now we slut
22:38
Speaker 1: shaming people who swap spit and are having an orgy
22:42
Speaker 1: and trading off and doing this on the show. I'm
22:45
Speaker 1: not slut shaming anybody. I'm just saying it's gross, not
22:49
Speaker 1: yourself out.
22:50
Speaker 3: And I think that's why.
22:52
Speaker 2: Oddly, I do think that's why it's accepted now to
22:55
Speaker 2: see what we're seeing, because for so many years it
22:57
Speaker 2: was so unacceptable that it's just overcorrection, and that that
23:01
Speaker 2: is an overcorrection. Like, come on, I can't even believe
23:06
Speaker 2: we're watching this on television. I mean, honestly, it's wild.
23:09
Speaker 1: Tell me the positive. Tell me where you've read something
23:11
Speaker 1: where people like, yeah, people are really eating up what's
23:13
Speaker 1: happening this season. Wow, people are loving the changes because
23:16
Speaker 1: all they keep pointing to is the ratings. As long
23:17
Speaker 1: as the numbers.
23:18
Speaker 2: Are up, there is no problem with shocking everyone. Okay,
23:21
Speaker 2: they're just shocking everyone. And I think at a certain
23:23
Speaker 2: point we're all going to be numb to it and
23:25
Speaker 2: it's not going to be shocking anymore, and maybe we
23:27
Speaker 2: can go back to more of the relationship.
23:29
Speaker 3: I don't mind kissing a little bit.
23:31
Speaker 2: Come on, my last ques are you?
23:34
Speaker 3: Are you good?
23:34
Speaker 2: Because I wanted to end with what you think?
23:37
Speaker 3: Who you think? On the guy side.
23:40
Speaker 2: If anybody who's going to make a switch when it
23:44
Speaker 2: comes to the recoupling.
23:45
Speaker 1: Obviously is Corbyn. Uh. If I had to make my money,
23:51
Speaker 1: put my money on it ropes. I'm going with Corbyn
23:56
Speaker 1: is the only one switching.
23:57
Speaker 3: Well, yes, because Caleb can pick whoever he wants.
24:00
Speaker 1: The other guys Sincere, Zach, Casey and Bryce.
24:06
Speaker 3: You think they're sticking with the ogs.
24:08
Speaker 1: Bryce for sure? Yes, right, Sincere I would even go
24:12
Speaker 1: close to who is the Zach we heard the.
24:16
Speaker 2: First time, the first time in this episode say that
24:19
Speaker 2: when he was kissing Alana, which we haven't even discussed.
24:23
Speaker 1: Oh, we forgot about it.
24:25
Speaker 2: Is not she was barely shown. That's their answer.
24:27
Speaker 1: We forgot about it.
24:28
Speaker 3: No, he's going to pick Kada.
24:30
Speaker 1: Damn. That's it.
24:31
Speaker 2: They just minimized her. She had no airtime. Oh, essentially
24:36
Speaker 2: edited her out of the show.
24:38
Speaker 1: We're done. I'm so sorry. Yes, Zach obviously is not
24:41
Speaker 1: taking her back.
24:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's picking Kada. And we heard him say that
24:43
Speaker 2: when he was kissing Alana he was thinking of Kada.
24:46
Speaker 1: Oh my god, rod Ro she just nailed it. Obviously.
24:51
Speaker 1: This is their solution to the whole controversy with Alana.
24:54
Speaker 1: Who's the videos are out of her old videos of
24:56
Speaker 1: her using the N word when she's.
24:57
Speaker 3: Just didn't go away with a with an absolute whisper?
25:00
Speaker 1: What did they have she had to do the makeout session,
25:02
Speaker 1: but they barely even they are they are editing this
25:06
Speaker 1: young lady.
25:06
Speaker 3: Out of the on the cutting room floor.
25:10
Speaker 1: That's true, but that moment, right and Casey is the
25:13
Speaker 1: other one. I think I think he's gonna that's true.
25:18
Speaker 2: Okay, And women what women are not going to choose
25:22
Speaker 2: their O g.
25:25
Speaker 1: Kinsey kin is it right? Kada's a little caught up
25:30
Speaker 1: right now, Kata's a little into the guy, right, No, I.
25:34
Speaker 3: Don't think it's so.
25:35
Speaker 2: I think that Kata and Cha she does like, but
25:39
Speaker 2: she's she hasn't even agreed to kiss him outside of
25:41
Speaker 2: a challenge.
25:42
Speaker 3: He is a chiropractor.
25:45
Speaker 1: She said, he's fine as yeah, okay, that we're sitting
25:48
Speaker 1: in Okay, I know you're talking.
25:49
Speaker 2: About Anna, Yes, totally Anaya and Carl he's the I
25:54
Speaker 2: see half Asian.
25:55
Speaker 3: He's like kind of he's huge.
26:00
Speaker 2: Obviously we know Trinity is going to pick without a doubt, definitely,
26:06
Speaker 2: Kenzie is into her new guy. His name is Dylan.
26:10
Speaker 2: And then who am I missing Melanie?
26:13
Speaker 3: Melanie. Melanie's obviously picking Sincia, so the.
26:16
Speaker 2: Only person who's going to switch, and Jen's got her
26:18
Speaker 2: new guy, but she wasn't coupled up with anyone to
26:20
Speaker 2: begin with, so really it looks like Kensey and Corbyn
26:24
Speaker 2: for sure.
26:24
Speaker 1: Switching Casey's my question He's my only question mark.
26:27
Speaker 3: I think Casey oof.
26:29
Speaker 2: But my only reason why I think he might pick
26:31
Speaker 2: an Ayah is that he knows he's going to look
26:33
Speaker 2: like a dog to America. I feel like if he
26:35
Speaker 2: went with his heart, he would pick Tity, but he
26:38
Speaker 2: might choose an Aya because he's being.
26:40
Speaker 1: Strategic, which is okay and which the game is supposed
26:43
Speaker 1: to be. But brogues this is as much as I
26:45
Speaker 1: hated this episode, he'd all came back around in the
26:48
Speaker 1: moment when the guys were standing there and looking out
26:50
Speaker 1: over the water and they were kind of they were
26:54
Speaker 1: kind of little lost puppies to wear. Oh what are
26:57
Speaker 1: our girls doing over there? She's making out with a guy.
26:59
Speaker 1: He's probably buff.
27:00
Speaker 3: And she's probably throwing my name down.
27:02
Speaker 1: Yes, that's real. That's how guys handle it and say
27:06
Speaker 1: it in that way, not necessarily emotional, but that is
27:11
Speaker 1: they It's hit them, it's hit them that. Wow. We
27:14
Speaker 1: came in here all hot and bothered and excited, and
27:17
Speaker 1: holy hell, the grass ain't greener they actually want those
27:21
Speaker 1: other women who they've established something with roads.
27:24
Speaker 2: And look to the show's credit, I appreciate the fact
27:28
Speaker 2: that that is something that happens in real life.
27:31
Speaker 3: People always looked as the grass greener.
27:34
Speaker 2: You start fantasizing, you start thinking what you got isn't
27:36
Speaker 2: good enough, and you want something better, and then when
27:39
Speaker 2: you go out and you try it in the real
27:40
Speaker 2: world or whatever, you realize you know, absence makes the
27:43
Speaker 2: heart grow fonder, or that is a true test if
27:45
Speaker 2: you miss someone or not, and if you can't stop
27:47
Speaker 2: thinking about someone even if you've moved on. And so
27:49
Speaker 2: they're just putting it all in warp speed and in
27:54
Speaker 2: an unintense pressure cooker.
27:57
Speaker 1: Ridiculous temptation, but antily clad temptation the whole there's nothing.
28:03
Speaker 3: I'm curious.
28:04
Speaker 2: I said this was it, but I just want to
28:05
Speaker 2: ask you one last question. I'm curious. Like we talked
28:09
Speaker 2: about how it wasn't a turn on to see all
28:11
Speaker 2: of this kissing and soft porn stuff, what do you
28:14
Speaker 2: think about leaving nothing to the imagination, like how these
28:17
Speaker 2: girls are dressed. Obviously it's good for ratings, and men
28:20
Speaker 2: like to look at women's beautiful bodies and all of
28:22
Speaker 2: these women have beautiful bodies. But is there something that
28:26
Speaker 2: is taken away from the fact that we just see
28:28
Speaker 2: everything all the time?
28:31
Speaker 1: Yes, Intrigue, mystery, anticipation, all of it's gone robes they
28:38
Speaker 1: call it. It's called foreplay. Right, you don't just go
28:41
Speaker 1: at it. There's a reason you don't usually just meet
28:44
Speaker 1: somebody in the bedroom and you both make it. There's
28:47
Speaker 1: you would like to have a drink first, Right, It's
28:51
Speaker 1: just it's what I'm saying. So and again, beautiful women, Yeah,
28:55
Speaker 1: hot dudes to start to finish everybody. I guess we're
29:00
Speaker 1: just grown folks. Been there, done that, seen enough to
29:03
Speaker 1: where we're not acting like horn dogs at the idea robes.
29:09
Speaker 1: You need something more than a hot body to sustain
29:12
Speaker 1: you in a relationship, but also in a relationship on
29:15
Speaker 1: an island that you're only gonna be there for two months.
29:18
Speaker 1: They're realizing that.
29:19
Speaker 2: Still then still gotta have a conversation.
29:21
Speaker 1: You still gotta talk. I hated the conversations and a
29:24
Speaker 1: lot of these robes, and I know they're editing it.
29:27
Speaker 1: I'm sure a certain way they are, But all we're
29:29
Speaker 1: hearing is, man, your eyes are pretty I can be
29:32
Speaker 1: the man for you. I'm really feeling not connection, and
29:35
Speaker 1: I just hear bs and maybe they do ask about families,
29:38
Speaker 1: and that stuff got edited out because it's boring. But
29:41
Speaker 1: it's just there's nothing to the conversations right now in
29:45
Speaker 1: these new places. Those conversations have been had over the
29:48
Speaker 1: past few weeks with the actual couples. Man, and those
29:51
Speaker 1: couples I think deserve a chance, Yeah, deserve a chance
29:56
Speaker 1: to see it through, not just because some nice piece
29:58
Speaker 1: of ass just came in.
29:59
Speaker 2: Exactly so this is Look, we'll still just try to
30:03
Speaker 2: look away, fast forward, leave the room for a bit
30:05
Speaker 2: if it gets nasty, but still appreciating the overall concept
30:10
Speaker 2: and am still very invested in the outcome of what
30:13
Speaker 2: happens on Love Island. We'll be watching. Thanks for listening
30:18
Speaker 2: to everyone.
30:18
Speaker 3: We appreciate you as always. I mean you roboch alongside TJ. Holmes.
30:23
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon.