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Fall Favorite: Pumpkin Pie Wars · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Hey friends, before we get started, this is a Girls
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  Speaker 1: Gone Hallmark Rewind episode, which means you're about to hear
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  Speaker 1: us revisit an episode we've already aired. Maybe the movie
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  Speaker 1: is airing again, maybe we just loved this episode that much.
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  Speaker 1: Either way, we think it's worth another listen. Enjoy! Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark Review podcast. I'm Megan,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm a longtime Hallmark movie fan. I'm Wendy. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a former Hallmark hater. Today we're discussing Pumpkin Pie Wars
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  Speaker 1: as part of our fall fan favorite movie review series.
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  Speaker 1: It's the podcast over, and you still want more Megan
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  Speaker 1: and Wendy, please follow us on Instagram, girlsgonehallmark. Calling all Hallmark.com.
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  Speaker 1: Facebook fans, jump into our Facebook group. I was wondering
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  Speaker 1: if people are like, another Facebook group. Actually, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like that Facebook group over there, they are invested. They
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  Speaker 1: watch all the movies. It's a really high quality Facebook group.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just like posting memes. People say thoughtful things.
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  Speaker 1: What I love about this group too is last weekend
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  Speaker 1: there was two Hallmark movies. Yes. A Friday and a Saturday. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: We chose to watch one here to review for the podcast. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: What I love is that the group is talking about
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  Speaker 1: the other movie amongst themselves. Love it. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I think I have to watch that movie now. I know.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to just jump right into Pumpkin Pie Wars here.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hear a synopsis. Okay. It's a long one. I
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  Speaker 1: pulled it from Hallmark. Are you ready? Ten years ago,
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  Speaker 1: Faye and Lydia each opened their own bakeries after a
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  Speaker 1: personal and professional fallout during a local pumpkin pie contest.
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  Speaker 1: Now their children, Casey and Sam, are set to carry
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  Speaker 1: out the rivalry as they go head to head in
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  Speaker 1: the same contest. The only problem for these two people
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  Speaker 1: who are supposed to hate each other, they start to
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  Speaker 1: fall in love. Oh my gosh. It is a complicated
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  Speaker 1: synopsis for a story that is a little bit complicated.
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  Speaker 1: You think it's complicated? It had a lot of moving parts. Okay, fair.
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  Speaker 1: This movie originally premiered on October 15th, 2016. Have you
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  Speaker 1: seen this movie before? Never. No. I know your husband
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  Speaker 1: likes to watch the fall movies. He watched this with
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  Speaker 1: me last night. Had he seen it before? No. Did
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  Speaker 1: he enjoy it? No. Really? When I think about your husband,
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  Speaker 1: I think that he likes the Hallmark movies of yore.
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  Speaker 1: He does. He had some complaints. Oh. Are you willing
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  Speaker 1: to share them? Sure. Okay. Okay. This movie stars Julie Gonzalo.
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  Speaker 1: She plays Casey. She has 48 acting credits, including the
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  Speaker 1: upcoming three bed, two bath, one ghost, which I cannot
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  Speaker 1: wait to watch. Me too. I think it looks great. Fan-freaking-tastic.
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  Speaker 1: She was also recently in Cut Color Murder, Jingle Bell Bride,
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  Speaker 1: Flip That Romance, and Falling for Vermont. And I would
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  Speaker 1: like to add a side note here. Several listeners have
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  Speaker 1: DM'd us about not reviewing Falling for Vermont in our
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  Speaker 1: fan-favorite lineup here. Yes. And honestly, I think the only
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  Speaker 1: reason we didn't choose that one is because they both
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  Speaker 1: starred Julie Gonzalo. And we're like, well, let's just pick
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  Speaker 1: this one. Oh, they DM'd us asking, like, why we
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  Speaker 1: weren't not to do it, but they wanted it done.
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  Speaker 1: They were like, why are you doing Falling for Vermont?
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  Speaker 1: It's such a good movie. There's only so many weeks
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  Speaker 1: in September and October, y'all. Maybe next year. Maybe next year.
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  Speaker 1: Jingle Bell Bride has the distinction of being the very
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  Speaker 1: first review ever done for Girls Gone Homework. I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to remember if that was it. You read my notes.
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  Speaker 1: It was there. Megan thinks she's funny with the backstory
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  Speaker 1: here that she did the notes for this movie like
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  Speaker 1: a week ago and I had forgotten and did my
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  Speaker 1: own and shared them with her. And so I'm old.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I also, this, can I add this? Julie
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  Speaker 1: Gonzalo also starred in A Cinderella Story from 2004. A
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  Speaker 1: movie I really like. Is that a Lizzie McGuire Cinderella story? No,
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  Speaker 1: Chad Michael Murray. And yeah, I guess it is Lizzie McGuire.
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  Speaker 1: What's her real name? Hilarita. Yes. I love that movie.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen it. What? You should watch it. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I like it. Also, she was in a movie that
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  Speaker 1: cemented my hate for Christmas movies. Okay. And it is
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  Speaker 1: called Christmas with the Cranks. I saw it in the
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  Speaker 1: movie theater. Theater. Who am I? I remember City. This
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  Speaker 1: was from 2004 or 2. And I was like, ugh,
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  Speaker 1: I hate this movie. I hate Christmas. What am I
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  Speaker 1: doing here? Have you ever seen that movie? Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's terrible. Have you ever seen that movie? Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's terrible. I don't enjoy it. It's terrible. I read
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  Speaker 1: the book. The book is sad. There's a book? It's
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  Speaker 1: called Skipping Christmas. Oh, God. And then they made the movie,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like changing the title to Christmas with
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  Speaker 1: the Cranks just tells you everything you need to know
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  Speaker 1: about the movie. She plays the daughter of Tim Allen
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  Speaker 1: and Jamie Lee Curtis in this movie? Yeah. Anyway, Tim Allen,
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  Speaker 1: why are you doing a Christmas movie outside of the
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  Speaker 1: Santa Claus? That should be in your contract. Okay. Moving on.
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  Speaker 1: Rico Aragon, formerly known as Eric Aragon, plays Sam. He
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  Speaker 1: has 34 acting credits, but it looks like this movie
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  Speaker 1: was his last role for Hallmark. Have you seen a
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  Speaker 1: recent photo of this man? He looks so different. zowie
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  Speaker 1: alert wowie zowie alert yes i saw it on his
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  Speaker 1: imdb oh my gosh i went through his instagram yesterday
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  Speaker 1: like a freaking stalker he has a beautiful family and
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  Speaker 1: he is on the right side of things if you
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  Speaker 1: know what i mean no the left side of things
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  Speaker 1: he's on the left side of things if you know
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  Speaker 1: what i mean smoking hot this movie was written by
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  Speaker 1: nina weinman she has 31 writing credits including the recent
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  Speaker 1: napa ever after just one kiss which reminded me much
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  Speaker 1: I loved that movie. Yeah. And also Flip That Romance,
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  Speaker 1: which also starred Julie Gonzalo. And Tyler Hines, I think, right?
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen Flip That Romance. Oh, boy. Stephen R.
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  Speaker 1: Monroe directed. He has 56 other directing credits, including Hallmark's
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  Speaker 1: Caribbean Summer, A Winter Getaway, and USS Christmas. Michelle Scarabelli,
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  Speaker 1: she plays Casey's mom, Faye. And Jennifer Juniper Angeli plays
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  Speaker 1: Sam's mom, Lydia. I just thought they needed to be noted.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't look up their specific... Did you? For this movie?
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  Speaker 1: I looked up something else about them. We'll discuss later. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: The IMD readings for this movie are 6.6 out of
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  Speaker 1: 10 average. I read a number of the reviews, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you right now, I was surprised
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  Speaker 1: by some of the glowing reviews this movie received, and
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  Speaker 1: it made me feel like Pickens must have been slim
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  Speaker 1: in 2016. Oh, maybe. Are you ready for first impressions?
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  Speaker 1: Are you telling me you didn't like this movie? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God. What is your first impression? I want to
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  Speaker 1: bake some pumpkin bread. Oh, my gosh. Megan made this?
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  Speaker 1: Some bomb banana bread last week when I was over here.
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  Speaker 1: I almost made it again today. I just ran out
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  Speaker 1: of time this morning. And then I was last night
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  Speaker 1: watching this. I'm like, maybe I'll make pumpkin bread instead.
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  Speaker 1: With that streusel that you put on top. You want
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  Speaker 1: the streusel on the pumpkin bread too? Oh, so good.
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  Speaker 1: So good. My first impression is, please put me out
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  Speaker 1: of my misery if I ever act like Faye or Lydia.
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  Speaker 1: For 10 years? 10 years. I was like, let it go.
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  Speaker 1: Let it go. I was trying to think. I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: two women who are competing against each other. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: could I apply this to my life at all? Mean you.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, no, because we're not technically competing
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  Speaker 1: against each other here. But if you launched your own
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark podcast, how long are you going to be mad?
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  Speaker 1: How long if we launch competing podcasts, how long are
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  Speaker 1: you going to be mad about that? Not very long.
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  Speaker 1: We run into each other on the streets and they'll
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  Speaker 1: be like, oh, you. No, never. If I saw you
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  Speaker 1: in Target, I would turn and walk the other way.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I handle it. Don't you ever run into
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  Speaker 1: someone that you don't want to see and you turn
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  Speaker 1: and walk the other way? Yes, always. I'd probably do that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like to make small chit chat with people
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  Speaker 1: I see in the streets. Unless you're a listener of
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, please come up. Oh, absolutely. Anytime. Talk your
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  Speaker 1: ear off. Anytime. Yeah. Look, I'm so conflict averse that
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  Speaker 1: I would just be like, I would, I just don't
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  Speaker 1: hold it on to it for that long. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But these women were miserable. No, please. Somebody. Somebody. Like
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  Speaker 1: if I ever acted that way, right? Oh, gross. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to answer your question right now. Okay. I struggled
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  Speaker 1: to come up with things that I liked about this
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  Speaker 1: movie because watching it, it just felt like background noise.
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  Speaker 1: Now let me set the scene for you just so
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  Speaker 1: everyone's really clear. Yesterday I watched two Hallmark movies. In
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  Speaker 1: the morning I watched Guiding Emily. I watched it on
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  Speaker 1: my phone because I started watching it at 5.30 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't want to turn on the television to
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  Speaker 1: wake up my family. And I was wrapped, like the
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  Speaker 1: entire time, fully engaged with that movie. Last night, my
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  Speaker 1: husband and I sat down to watch Pumpkin Pie Wars.
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  Speaker 1: And I will be honest, sometimes I watch these movies
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  Speaker 1: and I got a lot of stuff going on. Like
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  Speaker 1: I'm cleaning the kitchen. No, we were on the couch.
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  Speaker 1: The dog was asleep. It was a date night. We
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  Speaker 1: were hanging out, had a snack. I was in the
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  Speaker 1: right mood. And in the right mood, but the wrong movie? Yes. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So did you like anything about it? I did. I
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  Speaker 1: loved all the baked goods. I thought that was really
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  Speaker 1: fun to watch. Okay. All right. And as much as
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  Speaker 1: I thought the feud was overblown, I did like the
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  Speaker 1: way they made it trickle down to affect the family,
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  Speaker 1: especially like the The dads. The dads. The BFF dads
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  Speaker 1: and their secret golfing outing. I enjoyed that. That's all. Wow. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I have... A big list. Let's hear them. This movie
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  Speaker 1: was 100% all fall vibes. Yes. And we don't get
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  Speaker 1: a ton of fall themed movies. So I was here
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  Speaker 1: for it. Yes. We got leaves, pumpkins, fall colors, baked goods, carnivals.
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  Speaker 1: So pleasingly interesting. Aesthetically, those words don't go together. It's
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  Speaker 1: got a flip. Aesthetically pleasing. Thank you. It just made
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  Speaker 1: me yearn for a fall festival. Yeah. I was like, please,
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  Speaker 1: if there are any listeners in the Southern California area
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  Speaker 1: and there's like a great fall festival, I need to
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  Speaker 1: know what it is because I want to go to it.
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  Speaker 1: I just want like those feelings. And this movie did
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  Speaker 1: that for me. I really enjoyed Julie Gonzalo. Loved her.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. She was the absolute highlight of this movie.
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  Speaker 1: I just learned that she and Chris McNally are a
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  Speaker 1: real life couple. What? And they just had a baby.
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  Speaker 1: Did not know that. And the both of them are
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  Speaker 1: in three bed, two bath. Oh, I'm even more excited
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  Speaker 1: about that movie. Yes. I didn't know that they were together.
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  Speaker 1: I just, somebody came in the DMs the other day
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  Speaker 1: and was like, hey, did you know that? Love it.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, awesome. She's not in nearly enough Hallmark
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  Speaker 1: movies for me. I didn't see Color Cut whatever. It
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  Speaker 1: was called Color Cut Murder. That's from this year, I believe. Maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe last year. Really? I don't know. Can you look
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  Speaker 1: it up? Yeah, keep telling me what else you liked.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Rico slash Eric. I think he's so good looking.
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  Speaker 1: I already established that. I really enjoyed them together as
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  Speaker 1: a pair. I thought they... What is that face? I
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  Speaker 1: thought they truly cared for each other. It was totally believable. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the enemies to a lover trope, I didn't think they
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  Speaker 1: leaned too heavily into it. Nina wrote a really nice
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  Speaker 1: job in the script of making these characters think they
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  Speaker 1: had to not like each other, but then... They were
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  Speaker 1: adult enough to realize that they could have a relationship
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  Speaker 1: even though their families didn't get along. I agree with
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  Speaker 1: you there. I have been complaining a lot about this
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  Speaker 1: enemies to lovers nonsense and it goes too hard. And
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  Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right. They knew they weren't supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be friends and they bantered a little bit. I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was very tongue in cheek. Mean spirited. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Agree with you 100%. Cut Color Murder is from 2022. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. I thought their enemy portion of the
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  Speaker 1: movie was very, okay, we're going to play along when
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  Speaker 1: we are not supposed to get along with each other. Yes. Okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with that. But you didn't like them together
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  Speaker 1: as a couple? I thought he was so caring. Like,
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  Speaker 1: they both was a little transactional. I can help you
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  Speaker 1: with your budget. Was it a budget? No, business plan. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: business plan. I can help you with your business plan.
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  Speaker 1: You can help me bake. I liked that. I thought...
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  Speaker 1: Julie Gonzalo was a significantly stronger actor than Rico Aragon. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Still hot. I thought he was very sweet. I did
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  Speaker 1: that they helped each other out. Okay. All right. We
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  Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier. I like the dads and their relationship.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was very sweet. I enjoyed the twist
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  Speaker 1: at the end. I wasn't sure how they were going
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  Speaker 1: to wrap it up because one of them needed to lose. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: When she went into the bakery and goes to the bathroom,
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  Speaker 1: she's like, oh, just kidding. I got to go. Did
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  Speaker 1: you think something was up with that lady? No, I
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  Speaker 1: felt bad for that lady because she had been like,
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  Speaker 1: she had just told Casey like, I'm lonely or something
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  Speaker 1: like that. Like she was missing her friend Faye. Because
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  Speaker 1: Faye wasn't in the bakery that day. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I felt bad for her. And I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: just some side storyline. I didn't even put the two
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  Speaker 1: and two together that this lady was going to steal
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  Speaker 1: some recipe. I knew something was up, but I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know what she had done when she, like, went to
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  Speaker 1: the bathroom and came back and she leaves out her scone. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know when things happen in movies that don't seem relevant?
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  Speaker 1: You just let it go. Yeah. That's how I felt.
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  Speaker 1: But I did like that they threw in this third-party
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  Speaker 1: disruption because there would have been consequences to one of
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  Speaker 1: them losing. Yeah. So my husband and I were watching
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  Speaker 1: it and he kept guessing like there was a moment
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  Speaker 1: where she's on the ladder and he's like, oh, she's
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  Speaker 1: going to fall and he's going to catch her. And
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: of course she falls and he catches her. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: hate that stuff. And so I was like, hey, what
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: do you think the conflict is going to be? Because
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I think like the mothers are
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  Speaker 1: going to find out and then they're going to work
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  Speaker 1: to keep them apart. I thought the way they made
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  Speaker 1: that conflict work was nice. That's great writing on Nina
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  Speaker 1: Weinman's part. I agree. Yeah. While I didn't love Faye
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  Speaker 1: and Lydia, I did appreciate the conversation they finally have
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  Speaker 1: at the end where they, like, lay all their cards
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  Speaker 1: on the table. They tell each other how they felt
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  Speaker 1: and how it got messy. And prior to seeing this scene, like,
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  Speaker 1: I hate a woman-on-woman storyline. I remember you and I
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: went to a conference a long time ago, and it
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  Speaker 1: was like, all boats rise if we help each other, right?
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  Speaker 1: And I hate to see, like, women pitted against each other.
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  Speaker 1: I just can't stand it. If anybody saw the Barbie
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  Speaker 1: movie this summer, like, we had enough shit women go through. Stop. Sure.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, I was glad that they had this meeting
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  Speaker 1: of minds. Yeah. So that made me happy. Finally, I
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: love the Kelsey Ballerini song at the beginning. Yeah. It's
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  Speaker 1: called Peter Pan. Not sure how it's relevant to this movie, though,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: because that song Peter Pan is like about a dude
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  Speaker 1: who doesn't grow up. It has nothing to do with
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  Speaker 1: this movie. No, it just set the scene with the
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  Speaker 1: vibe of the song. Sure. But the lyrics don't. You
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: ready to talk what you wished for? Sure. Look, I
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: refuse to believe the daughter of a baker is this
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  Speaker 1: inept in the kitchen. Doesn't know how to turn the
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  Speaker 1: mixer on. Doesn't know how to turn it from not
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  Speaker 1: to turn it on 12. From 1 to 12. Come on. No,
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  Speaker 1: in that whole scene, the mom was like, I said mix,
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  Speaker 1: not stir. And I was like. Hmm, that's new news
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  Speaker 1: to me. If I'm making, not from scratch, but like
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  Speaker 1: a box of brownies and it says mix, I'm still
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  Speaker 1: stirring it with a spoon. I'm not getting the mixer
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  Speaker 1: out to mix the brownies. Yeah, I don't think you
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  Speaker 1: would ever use a mixer for brownies, to be quite honest.
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  Speaker 1: So is that real baking terminology then? I don't know,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: baker's way in. Stir versus mix? Yes, please send us
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  Speaker 1: your emails, jump into our Facebook group. I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was so weird. I wanted more heat. We had heat
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: in the kitchen. Not enough between the stars. I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. Like I said earlier, I thought they were
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  Speaker 1: a little bit transactional. I just, I thought they were
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  Speaker 1: like sweet together. There was no heat though. Agree. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Is that it? That's all you wished for? Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So Faye and Lydia were so over the top in
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  Speaker 1: this movie with their hatred for each other. Like, why
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: are you living like that? Like, with so much hate
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  Speaker 1: in your heart. Yes. Forgiveness is for you, not for
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  Speaker 1: the other person. That's what a therapist will tell you. Ugh.
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  Speaker 1: And then I just thought they were so unlikable. For example,
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  Speaker 1: Lydia was so incredibly unsupportive of her son Sam's ambition. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: The dude went to... Le Cordon Bleu. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they actually even mentioned it, but
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  Speaker 1: he went away to learn how to be a chef. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And now he's just going to come back and work
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: in like the family bakery. And she says to him,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: this bakery is your legacy. I'm like, no, it's not. Parents,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: don't do that to your children. Yeah. Let them have
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: their own lives. Yes. And then... Faye puts so much
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: pressure on Casey to basically save the dwindling business. She's,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: you're now like, they even said the face of the bakery.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: So she's out at the hotels trying to get like
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: more business for her. I'm like the face of the bakery.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Doesn't she do the books? She went to Wharton and
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: is doing the freaking bookkeeping for this bakery now. But
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: now she's transitioning into being the face. Like she's the
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: baker of the bakery now. Yeah. Make it make sense
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: for me. I can't. To me, a person who goes
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: to Wharton and has a business degree should be making
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: real dollars somewhere. I didn't like this part of the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: movie about that. Yeah, because she says, oh, I own
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: a bakery. So for some reason, she co-owns this bakery
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: with her mother. Since when? That was your dream to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: come home and run the family business? Yeah, I don't
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: get it. You didn't go to business school to be
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: able to do that. No. No. I've got did you
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: see that. Okay, I'm ready for it. Okay. I have
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: a few too, but go ahead. One is according to IMDb.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: The fields in the opening shot are full of CGI pumpkins.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: If you pause, this is from IMDb, pausing the action
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: reveals that there are only a handful of pumpkin images
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that have been copy and pasted over and over, made
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: to look different by flipping, resizing, and mirroring In many spots,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: several of an identical image are even bunched together with
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: no effort made to differentiate between them. How quick is
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the opening scene, though? Are they just like fast? They're
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: like panning over a field of pumpkins. But I read
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: this before I watched the movie and I was like,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: it was a little rough. Oh, I'm going to have
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: to go back and see that. Sam is teaching Casey
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: to bake. And they're in the bakery and they've just
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: mixed something. And she's, yeah, I need to call it
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: a night. And they take off their aprons. They hang
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: them up. There's literally batter in her mixing bowl. All
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: of the ingredients, including butter. Well, that doesn't make any
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: sense to me. They didn't bake anything. They didn't clean up.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: They leave batter full of ingredients that are going to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: go bad on the counter. Yeah. Like, I imagine, like,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the bakers who arrive at 4 a.m. tomorrow morning are
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: going to be like, what the hell happened here? Well,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: that was another scene. There's a moment when they stay
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: overnight in the bakery, and they're coming outside. It's light.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: People are on the streets. Like, they're running into their
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: dads coming back from golfing, which, what time is it?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Some people golf at, like, early tea times, but... Earlier
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: than 6? No. It takes three hours to golf. It
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: has to be at least 9 a.m. at that point.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. But... They're leaving, let's say, at
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: 6 a.m. As you mentioned, someone would have had to
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: come in and do all of the overnight baking and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: would have caught them in the bakery. Yeah. In the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: first round of the bake-off, not in the very beginning,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: but with Sam and Casey baking, they all bake bread.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: They have one hour. It takes a full hour for
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: a loaf of bread like that to bake. Okay. They
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: have one hour start to finish. You cannot mix the bread,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: get it in the oven, get it cool enough to
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: slice in one hour. It's going to be raw in
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the middle? Yes. They should have made muffins or mini
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: loaves or something that would take like 20 minutes. You
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: still need a lot of cooling time for something like that.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I got to say, I don't ever recall seeing an
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: oven at the bake-off. No, they did. They had those big,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: they had oven, like double door ovens behind them, which
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I thought was How did they get them there? They
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: were like industrial ovens, so they wheeled them from their bakery?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Where was the bake-off happening at? It
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: looked in like some town square because there was all
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: that seating. Yeah. Okay. All right. I'd like to talk
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: about a few characters in this movie. Okay. And the
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: actors who play them. Okay. Jennifer Jupiter Angelli. Yes. Plays Lydia.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Sam's mom. Sam's mom. At one point, my husband goes,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: she was like eight years old when she had him,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: which led me to... This Google search. Jennifer Jupiter Angelli
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: is 50 years old today. Oh, wow. Eric slash Rico
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Aragon is 40 today. She literally was 10 years old.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: That's funny. Michelle Scarabelli is 68. Okay. This is one
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of those things where we've taken any woman over the
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: age of 40 and we're like, you're the grandma role.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: You're old. You're old. Yeah. I have one. Okay. And
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it's mostly a complaint. Why can't Faye... Bake sitting down. Okay.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: She's got like a broken what? Ankle laid what? Get
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: her a chair so she can at least. You can
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: still stir sitting down. Yes. Have your daughter put it
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: in the oven for you. She could supervise. She could stir.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: She could be present. I didn't get it. And also,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: she was someone who was supposed to be resting and
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: off her feet. The woman is up and on crutches
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: a lot. And they're constantly yelling at her about it. Yes.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Put her in a scooter. Yes. A knee scooter. Something. Yeah.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: What are those sit-down ones? Something. A rascal? A rascal.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: That's all. All right. Let's rate Pumpkin Pie Wars. My
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: note here says, really enjoy this one. I give it
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: four stars. I liked it. I have to lift my
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: head up from the table. 2.5. You guys, please weigh
• 23:05
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• 23:09
  Speaker 1: with 2.5 stars or team Wendy with 4.5 stars. They're
• 23:11
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• 23:14
  Speaker 1: they go hard for these fan favorite movies. I would
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: probably watch it again. I would definitely put it on
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: baking some bread. Wow. Okay. Sorry. All right. Whether you're
• 23:26
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• 23:28
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