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Spencer Hall on Lane Kiffin & LSU's major mistake, Pressure on Alabama & Ohio State, College Football's playoff problem | 12.02 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
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  Speaker 1: at Channel 6 and other places. Spencer Hall, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on, sir? There's nothing happening. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know why you would have me on at this
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  Speaker 2: point on December 2nd.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, look, man, we got to hurry up and get
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  Speaker 1: this done so we can go watch this Diddy movie
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  Speaker 1: that 50 made.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have any shame in admitting. I can't wait.
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  Speaker 1: And it's all these people who are like, yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: he just doing this because he don't like Diddy.
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  Speaker 3: The only reason I'm watching is because I don't like Diddy.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. We all have appointment viewing. You have that.
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  Speaker 2: I have to go to Zach Fox's TikTok account and
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  Speaker 2: just see how many times he's retweeted Kevin Gates singing
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  Speaker 2: beefing with my chick while I'm in jail. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you know this. He's retweeted it like 50
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  Speaker 2: times in different variations, and I can't stop hearing Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Gates in my head. So we should get to this
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  Speaker 2: because we both have things to do after.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just want to say this one thing
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  Speaker 1: about 50 Cent is for all the terrible things there
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  Speaker 1: are to say about him, and they are terrible, one
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  Speaker 1: thing the man is not is.
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  Speaker 2: Insincere, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like, I watched him sit down in that interview with
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  Speaker 1: the director, and you know what he's thinking?
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  Speaker 3: I put this black woman on, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And he's sitting there, and they're talking to Robert Roberts,
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  Speaker 1: and he takes that quiet tone and talks about the
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  Speaker 1: seriousness of the matter, and he was just like, look, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just telling y'all. The man asked me if I, basically,
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  Speaker 1: he's like, he asked me if I wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: shopping with him, and I knew what time it was.
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  Speaker 1: I knew he was trying to be, and I ain't
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  Speaker 1: been cool with him ever since. So yeah, I'm making
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  Speaker 1: a movie about it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's survival instincts. You only get from surviving
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  Speaker 2: a violent shooting. And I think that's, I think that's
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  Speaker 2: one thing we've learned about 50 is that if he
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  Speaker 2: leaves the room, it's time for you to go to. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. This is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: I was hanging out with somebody that some people in
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  Speaker 1: this show would be familiar with. He was with his
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  Speaker 1: girl and he was talking about how they was somewhere
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  Speaker 1: in Atlanta and And he saw some dude walk in
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  Speaker 1: and he was like, he's about to shoot up the place.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: And he got out and that woman looked at him
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  Speaker 1: in front of us and said, and you know, that
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  Speaker 1: was the day that I realized that there was something
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  Speaker 1: about you. She was, she was 100% like, yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: is the kind of man I need in my life.
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  Speaker 3: Just in case you're wondering what they love.
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  Speaker 2: This gas station is no longer a safe space. We
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  Speaker 2: got to go. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Lane Kiffin is now the coach at.
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  Speaker 2: LSU, right? That happened. That happened. He's there. That did happen.
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  Speaker 3: He is there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I've heard not a
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  Speaker 1: word about candidate number two.
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  Speaker 2: For this job.
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  Speaker 3: LSU decided that they wanted Lane.
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  Speaker 1: They talked about how they was never going to give
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  Speaker 1: out a contract like they gave out before. Not only
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  Speaker 1: are they giving him a contract like the one before LSU,
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  Speaker 1: They're going to pay him bonuses.
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  Speaker 3: If Ole Miss were to win a national.
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  Speaker 1: Championship, Lane Kiffin's owed a million dollars in his contract,
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  Speaker 1: and LSU is going to give him the million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: They have handed the keys over to him, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think anybody has really properly stopped to ask the question,
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  Speaker 1: is this a good idea for LSU?
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, let's congratulate Jeff Landry on some
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  Speaker 2: extreme politicianing, some extreme politician speak by being like, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to do contracts that are different. We're not going
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  Speaker 2: to do all this appeasement and we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: just give coaches what they want. Then Lane rolled up
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  Speaker 2: and he's like, keys to the castle, baby. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: For Lane.
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  Speaker 2: Take them. For Lane, a guy who, if I may
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  Speaker 2: remind you, has won championships as an assistant and has
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  Speaker 2: won with Florida Atlantic. Yes. So we have, and yes,
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  Speaker 2: Full credit to everything that happened at Ole Miss. That
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  Speaker 2: is the best run at Ole Miss history. He is
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  Speaker 2: the best coach in Ole Miss history. Do not throw
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  Speaker 2: John Vaught in my face. Not everyone was eligible to
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  Speaker 2: play those games. I didn't get to see the full
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  Speaker 2: capacity of those things. His name's on the stadium. Doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have to be on the statue outside. If they were
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  Speaker 2: going to build one, it would be from Lane. He
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  Speaker 2: is the only guy with an 11-win season there. 10, 11,
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  Speaker 2: and 10. Phenomenal run there. Maybe his best work. And
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  Speaker 2: I think what will be his best work because... I
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  Speaker 2: think this LSU gig is now completely complicated by simply
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  Speaker 2: by how he came in and by the circumstances of
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  Speaker 2: the game as it exists now. So.
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  Speaker 1: The Ole Miss thing is interesting because it is the
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  Speaker 1: best run, and I made a mistake last show. I
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  Speaker 1: said that Lane did not have a big win at
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss, and that's not true because they did beat
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  Speaker 1: Georgia last year.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, they beat Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: Other than that, big win for Lane ever, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: is the 2011 year against Oregon where they pulled one
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  Speaker 1: out at the end of the year while they were
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  Speaker 1: somewhat in the throes of probation.
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: So my bad. He has won two games worth discussing
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  Speaker 1: in the last 15 years.
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  Speaker 3: My fault. My fault. I owe you an apology, Lane.
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  Speaker 3: You've got those two.
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  Speaker 1: However, if you are lining up the best coaches in
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  Speaker 1: the SEC, just putting their names on the list, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not even necessarily saying where does he stand on the list.
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  Speaker 1: I'm asking you how many of those coaches can you
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  Speaker 1: definitively say Lane Kiffin is a better coach than insert
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  Speaker 1: name here.
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  Speaker 3: And buddy, I don't know, given that.
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  Speaker 1: Mississippi State's coach is actually kind of sort of the
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  Speaker 1: shadow coach and the actual coach is actually a really.
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  Speaker 3: Good coach, bad guy. Who you got?
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  Speaker 1: I don't have anybody that I am positive in this
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  Speaker 1: conference that Lane Kiffin is a better coach than.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little higher on him than you are.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, but tell me positively. Is he positively better than Beamer?
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  Speaker 2: Than Beamer? Yes. Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Is he positively better than Hypel?
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  Speaker 4: No. No.
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  Speaker 2: And I will say this, too. I think Hypel's a
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  Speaker 2: better org guy. I think that is underrated, the gig
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  Speaker 2: that he has done at Tennessee and the culture that
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  Speaker 2: he has built. Because when was the last time, I'll
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  Speaker 2: make this brief, when was the last time you heard, man,
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee's got a problem player, or Tennessee has a culture? Nope. Nope.
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  Speaker 2: That is a kumbaya group that gets results at a
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  Speaker 2: place that is harder to succeed at than people think
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  Speaker 2: so yes next all right.
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  Speaker 1: Um is he positively better than eli at.
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  Speaker 2: Missouri another underrated dude i think overall if i was
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  Speaker 2: giving you one v one game lane is a better
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  Speaker 2: play caller and he's going to be a tougher one-on-one
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  Speaker 2: matchup if i'm extending this over if i'm giving you
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  Speaker 2: a stock report right here's your money take your portfolio
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  Speaker 2: to eli drinkwits and associates I would give it to
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  Speaker 2: Drinkwits just based on the steady performance at a place that, again,
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  Speaker 2: a little more difficult than people think.
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  Speaker 1: But they're in the same neighborhood, and I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 1: ain't nobody going through all this shit for Eli Drinkwitz.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. The thing I give him credit for,
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  Speaker 1: and you and I have talked about this for years
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  Speaker 1: with Lane, I do appreciate that he doesn't make offense
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  Speaker 1: more complicated than it has to be.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, we got a dude, and I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Going to give him the ball every time if I can.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what position he plays. When it was
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  Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, Amari Cooper damn near won a Heisman. When
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  Speaker 1: it was Derrick Henry, he ran for 2,000 yards, and
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  Speaker 1: he won a Heisman.
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  Speaker 2: If you're the guy.
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  Speaker 3: you're going to get the ball.
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  Speaker 2: If he did this with Marquise Lee at USC, listen,
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  Speaker 2: he did this with Jackson Dart. He did this with
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  Speaker 2: Trinidad Chambliss. Did not matter that he was a Ferris
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  Speaker 2: State transfer. Did not matter that he appeared to be
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  Speaker 2: an FCS player. When he walked on the field, you go, wow,
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  Speaker 2: that guy looks a little small. Doesn't matter. You're going
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  Speaker 2: to touch the ball 53 times. It works. And he's
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  Speaker 2: going to do it. So he doesn't make it harder
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  Speaker 2: than it has to be. He puts players in a
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  Speaker 2: position to succeed. Delegates much better than he used to.
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  Speaker 2: At USC, the story was that Lane would not delegate,
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  Speaker 2: and Lane would not let anyone touch any controls on offense.
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  Speaker 2: He's a little bit better about that now, still calls plays,
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  Speaker 2: but very good about delegating. And keeps it loose. Like,
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  Speaker 2: that's as a program-wide, keeps it loose. We're all basically,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking around, we're outlining the elephant in the room,
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  Speaker 2: which is Lane. Which is... That's it. Right. Like every
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  Speaker 2: question we asked today, Bo, every question we asked today
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  Speaker 2: is going to be should work, should work, should work,
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  Speaker 2: should work. But right. That's it. That's it. There's there's
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  Speaker 2: kind of a mess there. And it's more it's complicated
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  Speaker 2: now by. Well, there's a mess meeting a mess. And
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  Speaker 2: in the middle, they're going to try to build a
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  Speaker 2: football program together. And that that's going to be the
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  Speaker 2: challenge here.
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  Speaker 3: You're not going to convince me.
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  Speaker 1: That the most attractive part of this job delaying Kiffin
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  Speaker 1: was not the fact that it is fraught with drama. Like,
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  Speaker 1: like you're not, you're not, you're, you're, you're not going to, now,
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  Speaker 1: now one thing I will say though, one thing I
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  Speaker 1: will say, you might bring it. It feels like bringing
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  Speaker 1: it back should be on the board, right? Like it, it, it, it,
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  Speaker 1: it should be at the top of the board actually.
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  Speaker 2: Bo, would that be drama? Would that be drama? I
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  Speaker 2: feel like that would be a good time. It'd be
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  Speaker 2: a good time, but that'd be dramatic, right? That would
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  Speaker 2: be a story. It would be dramatic. That means they're
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  Speaker 2: going to do it. That means it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to give everybody a blueprint here, okay? Oh, man,
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  Speaker 2: would Ed come back even though he was the head coach? Yeah. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Lane wants it to happen, so it's going
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  Speaker 2: to happen. They've handed him everything. Do you want, oh, hey,
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  Speaker 2: would it be weird if Nick Saban were a consultant?
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  Speaker 2: What if Nick were just off over here and we
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  Speaker 2: just paid him to.
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  Speaker 4: Be over here?
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be dramatic? Yeah, sure, they'll try to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever you name, if it's going to be a good
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  Speaker 2: story and it's going to raise some eyebrows, Lane will
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  Speaker 2: do it and LSU's just going to let him.
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  Speaker 1: I just my my I don't know if complain is
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  Speaker 1: the right word, but as coach.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: He's not quite Lincoln Riley in the sense of, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we got to play some defense, too.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: However, you know, you got to play some defense, too.
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  Speaker 1: Like I I think you are you are. And I
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  Speaker 1: mean this in the positive way, Florida, man. While Spencer
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  Speaker 1: has the picture of Florida man, he does not have
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  Speaker 1: the internal composition and constitution of Florida man, but we
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  Speaker 1: talked about he's the spiritual successor to Spurrier. If there
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  Speaker 1: was a job that was a fit, that is the one,
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  Speaker 1: except it sounds like the AD of Florida was like, nah,
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  Speaker 1: I ain't working with this clown.
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  Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Off the top, it was kind of like, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: really trying to do this. I got to take this call,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: About that, the reason that did not happen, the primary reason,
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  Speaker 2: besides the chalk and cheese relationship between Athletic director Scott
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  Speaker 2: Strickland and Lane Kiffin did not get along. That was
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  Speaker 2: a factor from what I've heard. Additionally, Florida has a GM.
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  Speaker 2: We have GMs now. And now you have to do
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  Speaker 2: the NFL thing where you go, does the throne get
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  Speaker 2: along with the ex-checker? Does the treasury get along with
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  Speaker 2: the presidency? Do the people doing the budgeting and the
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  Speaker 2: talent prospecting, are they on the same page with the coach?
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  Speaker 2: Right now, Florida has something which may be a problem
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  Speaker 2: for them. They have a GM who operates co-equally with
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  Speaker 2: the coach. And that is both report to the athletic director.
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  Speaker 2: At LSU, that will not be the case. Lane did
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  Speaker 2: not want that at Florida. He's going to take Ole Miss'
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  Speaker 2: personnel guy, who, to be fair, if you look at
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  Speaker 2: the number of people that they've prospected, that's probably one
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  Speaker 2: of the dudes who had a hand in getting Trinidad Chambliss.
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  Speaker 2: Probably one of the guys who built this roster that's
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  Speaker 2: filled with talented, skilled players who all can do exactly
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  Speaker 2: what they need them to do on offense, at least.
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  Speaker 2: That's what Lane gets there. So that's a factor as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so.
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  Speaker 3: We'll just see what kind of defense they play.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah. One, got to get a new defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 2: because Ole Miss is now in the hands of Pete Golding.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I told the people on the show on Monday
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  Speaker 1: that I saw a picture of him, and they said
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  Speaker 1: he was head coach. I was like, oh, that man
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  Speaker 1: can't be the head coach, looking at that beard and
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  Speaker 1: everything else. And I was like, oh, but maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: just that picture. And then I went and looked up
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  Speaker 1: more pictures.
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  Speaker 4: Nope.
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  Speaker 2: It just gets worse.
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  Speaker 1: You can't make– I can't believe that man's the head
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  Speaker 1: coach of anything. But I talked about this. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if anybody's followed up on it. I'm curious your thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't think that what is discussed nearly enough
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  Speaker 1: about the Ole Miss part is the staggering leverage that
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  Speaker 1: all of those assistant coaches had in that moment as
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  Speaker 1: they are trying to hold together what this season is.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to wind up like Florida State where
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  Speaker 1: one thing went bad and you thought you were going
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  Speaker 1: to the playoff and then nothing has been the same
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  Speaker 1: since everybody decided they weren't going to do something.
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  Speaker 2: Right? Right.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Ole Miss, they got to hold it together.
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  Speaker 1: And I think they, a few of those guys are
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  Speaker 1: going to Ole Miss, but I mean to LSU, but
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  Speaker 1: some of those guys are going to stay because they
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  Speaker 1: have to, and they will be compensated handsomely for this.
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  Speaker 2: They will. And they're going to get a nice two
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  Speaker 2: to three year run out of this and we'll see
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  Speaker 2: how it goes. I don't think I've ever heard anyone
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  Speaker 2: saying Pete Golding was an obvious coaching candidate. That's let's
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  Speaker 2: just remember that it's not like, Oh, up-and-coming assistant. You
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  Speaker 2: know who that would be? That'd be Will Stein. Will
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  Speaker 2: Stein just got the gig at Kentucky. Former Louisville quarterback
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  Speaker 2: who was the offensive coordinator at Oregon. He is now
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  Speaker 2: in charge of reviving the Kentucky program. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: going to do that. He's very smart, very energetic. It'll
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  Speaker 2: be cool. No one ever said that about Pete Golding.
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  Speaker 2: Pete Golding was like Wizard of the Whiteboard. If you
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  Speaker 2: say Wizard of the Whiteboard, that means you don't necessarily
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  Speaker 2: want that guy in a press conference. No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: This is your brother, Bill Oliver type, right? This is
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  Speaker 2: somebody who is going to be in the background. He's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a staunch assistant, but now he's being
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  Speaker 2: put in a role where he's going to be perhaps
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  Speaker 2: out in the spotlight and maybe a bit uncomfortable at first.
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  Speaker 2: And he's going to do this in a low pressure
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  Speaker 2: situation called the college football playoff. There's your coaching debut.
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  Speaker 2: You are in the college football playoff. You're not starting
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  Speaker 2: up against like, you know, Weber state. That's not happening.
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  Speaker 2: You're not starting off against Alcorn. You're debuting against heavy hitters.
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  Speaker 2: So good luck, Pete, man. Good luck.
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  Speaker 1: I'd also like to point out that he used to
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  Speaker 1: be the defensive coordinator at Alabama. And then he was
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  Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator at Ole Miss. And it's not because
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  Speaker 1: he did such a great fucking job at Alabama.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Although, to be fair, to be fair, I will give
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  Speaker 2: him this. That's late Saban. That's late Saban where maybe
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  Speaker 2: the recruiting isn't quite the one-to-one fit at positions where
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  Speaker 2: it once was. So I'm going to give him a
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  Speaker 2: little latitude on that. He did a pretty good job
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  Speaker 2: at Ole Miss. But if you were trying to take
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  Speaker 2: somebody off that staff, that is not pick one. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, this leads us to a good little transition here
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  Speaker 1: because we're going to– I feel like all we can
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: say with Lane, honestly, at LSU is we're going to
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: see they're going to be the primary story in college football,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: and I will give them this. Every other coach in
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: the country is bull ring, and Lane is not. Like,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: I appreciate having somebody to viscerally despise in the way
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: that I realize that I despise this man with whom
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I've only spoken one time.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: But it is going to make things better.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: The thing is, I kind of like LSU, because I
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: got a lot of friends that are around LSU.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: And I don't know how I feel about this.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I sent Ryan Clark a text and said, you know,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: I always hate it when a team I root for,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: you know, brings on a clown. And we talked about it.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I said that to Marcus Spears, and I've got no reply.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: I got to run this by Van and see what
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: he thinks.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: No, he's already in. That's it.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: You know why he's in?
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Because there's no other option but to be in. No
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: matter who it is, no matter what it is, once
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: it happens, you got no choice but to be in.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: And so they are going to be in until they
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: aren't in.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, listen, everyone has to do this this time
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: of year. LSU, by the way, would have been in anyway.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: If we had taken... Attila the Hun, and we had
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: made him head coach at LSU. Oh, man. I'm all
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: about the Magyar Empire. That's right. Down with the Hun.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I'm good with it. Yeah. If it had been Dracula,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: they would have been thrilled. They would have been like,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: that's why we play at night. That's why we play
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: at night. Yes.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Vampires for life.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: LSU is just going to be in no matter what
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin does. Like to the point that that man
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: could shoot somebody. He could. He could shoot somebody, and
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: they'd be like, hey, we've all been there. No, we haven't. No,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: we haven't. Maybe you have. I have not. It does
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: not matter, right? It doesn't matter how much creep shit
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: that comes out from Ole Miss about Lane Kiffin there.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how much– I don't know if you've
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: seen the hot yoga instructors of the world are uniting
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: against Lane Kiffin for his boorish behavior in classes at
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss. No. No. Oh, an aficionado of hot yoga.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: And on TikTok, hot yoga instructors from Ole Miss, from
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: the particular studio he went to, was like, yeah, he
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: farted in class and blamed it on a girl. He'd
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: sit there and he wouldn't follow directions. He was just
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: doing bicep curls while we were all in child's pose.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: He was apparently just going in and freestyling.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: After all this stuff we heard about him in the yoga,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: he wasn't actually doing yoga.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: He was just going to the yoga studio. And we
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: all know what that means.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I think he started with it, and then he was like,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: let me freestyle on this. And they were not appreciative
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I just want to point out that that kind of
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: stuff is what got Ed Ogeron fired, not the losing.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Which, one day we will have a long investigative series
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: on the alleged tales of Ed Ogeron hitting on people.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: I do not, for one, I do not think they
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: were true. I don't think they were true at all.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I've come around with you on this one.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: That when he saw the woman at the gas station
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: and asked where she worked out and she was like,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I'm married. And he's like, what's the point? I have
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: come around. I think he might've wanted to work out.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, I don't think that entire
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: story is true. Second, he really might've wanted to work out.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: If that story is true. Have you seen Ed? Ed
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: is in his sixties and he looks like he could
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: beat your ass.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: That's, so the man would love to that's the other
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: part he would have.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Been like good form good job good job anybody ever
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: told you you're a natural lifter like that's that's what
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: he would do right and then maybe a relationship blossoms
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: from there and by the way free and clear at
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: that point none of this was off the books right
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: because ed at that point his divorce was clear yes
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: that was done it was a single man Right? I did.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Look, that was my favorite part of this story is
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: all these married men who do all this dirt and
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: everybody finds a way to let it slide because they
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: need to keep it low.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Ozeron's problem was that there was no reason to keep
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: it low.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Therefore, I mean, oh my God. And bringing the kids
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: to practice. That's never going to, that was never going
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: to stop.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: No. That's amazing. And, you know, there's also this, and
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: this is going to happen with various coaches who are
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: under pressure is that all of a sudden we've become
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: privity to their private lives. And there's a lot of
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: things that I can say about you. I can be like, OK,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's necessarily cool or that's weird or man,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: that seems like too many women to date at once.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Your scheduling must be incredible, especially given the 60 to
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: 70 hour weeks that you're working. I don't see it
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: being very rewarding for anyone. However, it's not in the contract.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: It's not breaking a law. Then then all we can
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: do is laugh. that's really all we can do and
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: i will return to this if old miss does not
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: play if old miss does not play at least the
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: instrumental version of area codes or of houdini's i'm a
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: hoe okay or some other variation it's ludicrous.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's the one that's coming down.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: They're going to play every single one of them.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if they're.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Allowed to play rap at the Mississippi Stadium, but if
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: they haven't before, they will be soon. He also gets
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: to make a run by Tennessee this year. It is
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: like all the scoring lane lovers.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: They're all there.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Why don't they schedule an exhibition game against the Raiders?
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't do it. Don't do it because now everybody
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: is reminded that Al Davis, though Al Davis did have
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: some ideas that maybe weren't necessarily practical. The 40-yard pass downfield,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: not a base play. Yes. Not a first down play
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: every first down. Al was right about some things. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: that's this, that when you fire Lane Kiffin, he does
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: it in a manner where you're just going to want
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to take out a power point, where you're going to
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: want to crack out an overhead projector. You're going to
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: want to get vintage with it in terms of how
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: He leaves.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he hated that man.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: That's just, it never stops being amazing. And by the way,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: when he got the job at Tennessee, he wrote them
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: a letter to tell them that this man would leave
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: you with shame and dishonor.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: And what do you know? By the way, like, how mad, like,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: that is anger when an old man's going to crack
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: out a letter, right? Like, because we both have fathers
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: who are sinners. If you got a letter from your dad,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: would you open it? I'd be terrified. I might wait
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: until he died.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'd be like, I'll open this after you're dead.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I don't want to know what's in it. It's all
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: the board. It's all the board.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: By the way, Spencer, I got to tell you, at
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: our age, all of our parents are seniors.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Either they were seniors or they were freshmen and you
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: were born.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: We're just at that.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: We're at that place. Now, I have this, though.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: This is a coaching thing that I've seen, and I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: don't know that much about it, but I still find
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it interesting. Two guys are about to be coaching at
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: much different schools than they used to be, at least
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: one of them.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Pat Fitzgerald, who used to coach at Northwestern.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: And apparently he has on some level been absolved of
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: their running dick gauntlets at training camp at Northwestern, and
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: he is not responsible for all the dick-rubbing that they
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: were doing, if you say so.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: But he is now going to go to Michigan State.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: And also, the head coach at BYU, Sataki, I don't
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: really know anything about him, but apparently he is the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: focus of the Penn State search. And I am very
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: curious about the possibility that these two guys now go
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: to jobs where they can and have.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: To recruit everybody.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: After before really only talking to a subset of people
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: that spoke.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: A certain language. Oh no, no, no, no, no.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Like it's gotta be such a relief for Sataki.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Like for, for Fitzgerald is no longer, man, I gotta
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: see if they go and get to grades for Sataki.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: It's like, I no longer have to explain to them
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: that the best part about being an athlete is not
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: on the board here.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So one Dick gauntlets were essential to the greatness
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: of Northwestern football. Pat Fitzgerald, That's why he did them.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: And that's why Michigan State is just fine with it.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: By the way, Michigan State, not exactly the place where
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: maybe we want to hire a coach who created a
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: toxic culture. But what do I know? What do I know?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to run
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: an athletic department. I'm sure there's some arcane knowledge that
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not privileged to where maybe we shouldn't hire that guy.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: You know, was it overblown? I don't know what we
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: don't overblow. Was it bad? Yeah, it was bad. You
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: don't want people doing that in your football program. Now
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Michigan State's got to hire this guy who is, let's rewind,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: a retread. A good football coach, but this is a retread. Yes.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: You're trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice. It's
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: a much different environment. And by the way, who says
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: he's going to be better with players With lower academic standards.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Everyone's a niche. Everyone is somebody who's successful at one
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: place with very specific conditions. The rare individual is somebody
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: who is successful at a number of different places under
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: different conditions, right? Steve Spurrier, for example. Or Bob Chesney,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: the guy that UCLA just hired, right? There's a lot
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: of people getting each other's jobs that's happening right now.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: It's fascinating. John Summerall was custom cut agent pitching him
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: as the next Pat Dye of programs.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Coach a guy in bike shorts with a whistle right
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: a dude a killer a defensive guy born to run
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: the ball and do great things and you know in
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: the old sec he'd be this like eight and four
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: guy who had a job for 15 years and people
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: were like i think.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: He has a good family and he's a good man
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: right perfect auburn casting where does he go florida he
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: goes to florida the place that wanted lane kiffin at
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: first the place that employed steve spurrier urban meyer or
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: any other number of mercenaries who just wanted to kill
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: where did the guy who could have gone to florida
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: go alex golish right offensive offense first already coaching in
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the state of florida he went to auburn who now
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: auburn fans are like um just we like the russian
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: guy right we like that's alexi golish by the way
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: born in russia and came to the united states at
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: the age of four is that going to keep auburn
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: fans from just like Blatantly putting tigers in old Soviet
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: propaganda and posting them on the internet. No, they're already
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: doing it. It's already happening, man. Chesney goes to UCLA.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Chesney has won, by the way, at the ECAC's finest, right?
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Finest private Catholic institutions. Oh, before that, Assumption? um, yeah,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: like Bob, he coached at someplace before that the name
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: is escaping me that has like a saint in it. Um,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: like he was coaching at places where I know he
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: did the laundry, right? Um, he has three stops before he,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: he has three stops all before he gets there. James Madison,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: which by the way, we're talking about like, Hey, you
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: succeeded in a big program. James Madison. Okay. It's still
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: James Madison. I know it's the largest public university in Virginia. Okay.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: By enrollment. And you know what that means, right? You're like, Yeah,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: it's the biggest one by enrollment. You go, oh, the
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: former commuter school that's got to glow up, right? And
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that happens to have a superb football program that's managed
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: very well. That guy could have taken the Penn State job.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I think that's like, if you look at the pattern,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: he should have gone there. You go, okay, regional, sort
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: of in the area, definitely like the workaday, blue-collar type
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: guy who's on the come-up. He goes to UCLA. Okay.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: which is a complete wild card of a hire. And
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: then Kalani Satake, who could have gone to UCLA as
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: a West Coast recruiter, somebody with roots there, he might
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: be going to Penn State. He might already be at
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Penn State by the time anyone hears this, Bo. And
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: so there's a lot of very weird default choices going
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: to the second step and going to the place where
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: they were listed as either the primary or secondary. It's
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: a very weird market, active and weird.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: BYU, to me, sneaky good job that I would be
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: reluctant to leave because if they got anything over there,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: it's money. They got money, and they have a conference
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: in which they may be the best job.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: In the Big 12. When you really stop and think
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: about it, you can.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Make an argument that they are. You have a built-in
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: recruiting pitch. Yes. If the money doesn't do it, maybe
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: God will. Yeah. Maybe culture will. I don't have to—
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: You don't have to function as a Mormon, as an outsider, right?
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Not that that doesn't happen every day. Not that Mormons
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: aren't completely fluent moving from one sphere of their life
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: to another and balancing their faith against a public role. Sorry, Mormons,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: if you're listening to this, but, but you have a
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: built-in recruiting pitch where it's easy. It's easy. You're just
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: going to the place where everyone does this already. Yeah.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: And in addition to that, they're all a little older.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: If you look at those guys, they, They've always hit
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: with the violence of people who got up with the kids.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Yep, that's what I'm saying.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Those are grown men who they're playing football to get away.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: That's less true than it used to be, but there's
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: still people there who are like, yeah, I got to
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: play this game. Then the wife and I are going
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: to Costco tomorrow morning. That's a concern. That's a legitimate concern.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: We need to put together a list of those programs
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: whose secret sauce is we old.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Kansas State. We old. These boys need this in.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: A different way. Kansas State had guys who were like.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: You know, so I was roughnecking. That's good money. That's
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: good money. But, you know, I'll tell you, it's a
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: hard life. It's a hard life out there. It's lonely, too.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: It's lonely. So I thought I'd come back to football because,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: you know, Laramie wasn't being good to me. Like, that's...
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: That is very, very real. And I think you could
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: play with a rage that you can only get if
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: you have five hours sleep and two kids. That's what
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: BYU hits with. It's a great gig. By the way,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: can we just go ahead and highlight that the Big 12,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: I know we're going to make fun of the ACC
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: a little bit inevitably because the ACC has a title
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: game where the two best teams may not be in it.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Virginia plays Duke because of conference records and how things
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: line up in that conference because it is a bucket
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: of crabs. And everyone points and laughs and goes, ha,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: who's going to watch that on TV? BYU plays Texas
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Tech for the Big 12 championship. This used to be
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Texas playing some other relatively large market team, right? And
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: the Big 12 has morphed into this mutant where we
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: have Lubbock v. Provo. It's way, way less comfortable when
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I say it that way. byu texas tech sounds all
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: right but i'm like provo versus lubbock the two metropolises all.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Right coming up next week i'm going to talk about
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the actual football of the weekend you know there was
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: once upon a time this is a highly anticipated weekend
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and now we just talk about lane kiffin All right, Spencer,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: it is championship game weekend. And a big discussion in
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: the Lane Kiffin saga is the calendar, the calendar, the calendar.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: It's the calendar's fault that this guy doesn't know how
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: to act like an adult, right? It's the calendar's fault
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: that unfortunately you had to make a tough decision, a
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: one or the other. And somehow you thought that you
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: could get away with both. And then you're trying to
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: piss on our head after you get to this other part.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: But we have actual factual football. And I do want
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: to point out as we talk about the calendar, it
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: does stink. in the way that everything runs, in the
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: way the playoff is now set up, this feels very
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: anticlimactic and in some ways confusing as to what it
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: is that you're supposed to do with a team that
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: loses in a conference championship game, which is to say,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: what's going to happen to Alabama and Kalen DeBoer if
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: they lose this game to Georgia that in theory should
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: not knock them out of the playoff if they lose,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: but probably will?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Probably will. I would win this game if I were him.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Because Alabama does not like it when you lose SEC
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: title games. They do not like it when you lose
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: at all. Kalen DeBoer has been an interesting piece in
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: all of this because Kalen DeBoer has been at least
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: put as a possibility at all of the following places. USC.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Penn State. School to be named later after we vacate
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Coach X. He's been this sort of question mark. And
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: no one asked him about any of this because we
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: just assume Alabama's that volatile. We just assume they're going
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: to throw him out. And no one's questioned it. I
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: say this with people like in this industry who, when
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: talking about whether coaches are going to move or whether
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: USC is going to get rid of Lincoln or Texas
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Tech is going to fire Joey McGuire if he trails
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: for a single quarter. There's a lot of that. But
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: everyone takes as a given that Alabama's volatile, and I
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: don't know if, at least on DeBoer's end, that that's true. Because,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: by all reports, he's pretty happy there. Because you know
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: who else has the keys? Kalen DeBoer. Because they have
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: to trust him at this point. Alabama's too big a product,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: and everything's riding on his good decision-making, and they've let
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: him have whatever he wants. Quietly, he's got the Lane
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Kiffin deal. Whatever you need, whatever you want, we're going
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: to give it to you. And we won't have to
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: be freaks about it like those guys in Baton Rouge. Right.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: So I don't think I think that's maybe now I
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: know it'd be fun if we could just throw Alabama
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: into this mix. But right now, the messiest program is LSU.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: That's because they have Lane Kiffin as their coach. Jeff
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Landry is their governor. And because Le Bon Temps continue
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: to rule. It's just a big festive thing. Alabama still
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: pretty businesslike at this point. I know it'd be fun.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: If we could get them riled up. And it would
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: be fun if they were in chaos. I think they're
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: probably a little more in order than we might think
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: they are.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I do not make the assumption that with
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a loss or whatever that Alabama is going to toss
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: DeBoer out.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Right? Yeah.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: I operate on the assumption that he'll jump ship.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Because again.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I've seen this happen several times.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Alabama did not want Franchoni to leave. He just looked
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: around and was like, well, first of all, you guys
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: lied to me. But he just looked around and was like, oh,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: hell no. Anytime somebody's like, yeah, College Station, here I come.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: What?
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that right there. Not what's up. Ray Perkins,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: he jumped ship. There's another one I just can't remember
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: right now, but that is always my, I mean, Nick
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Saban was about to jump ship. We cannot forget that
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the Texas job was right there. And if they had
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: just done it right, he would have jumped ship on
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: this one. The look on DeBoer's face when they scored
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: that touchdown at the fourth quarter to take the league
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: of utter relief. Just like, oh my God, thanks. I
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: did not want to have to deal with this again.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: That's why if USC were to come open and his
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: old boss is running the search.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: At USC, I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, he gone. He gone.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: He gone.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: He gone take that one. But I don't know what
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: happens if you lose this game. I mean, he's he's
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: had decent success against Georgia. There's some interesting kind of
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: circles in this conference. Mike Elko now can't be Steve Sarkeesian,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: but Steve Sarkeesian apparently can't be Kirby Smart. But Kirby Smart,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: not so great when it comes to playing against Alabama.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: It just kind of goes in this rotation. But if
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Alabama loses this one, there's a three loss. Alabama make
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: this playoff. My guess is no.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I think it depends on how they lose. This is
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: one of those ones where I think if the committee
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: is looking at it and they want to put Alabama in,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: they will, if it's close. And I think this will
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: be a close game. And I don't think that has
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: a lot to do with Alabama. I think that's on Georgia.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I think Georgia just plays tight games this year. You know,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: they don't have an ability to sort of take big
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: 21 point chunks out of people on offense and defensively.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: They're very good, but they also don't do that thing where, Whoops,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: three interceptions in a quarter. You're now losing by 17 points.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: They don't do that. This is more of an anaconda
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: type team. This is, by the way, Kirby Smart couldn't
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: be happier. This is ideal Kirby Smart football. 16-9. How
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: did we win? Toughness. That's how we won. We won
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: with toughness. That's it. Did you win with brains? No. No.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: We left our brains in the locker room, right? I
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: got Mike Bobo calling plays. No one's going to be happy.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Me and Ryan were talking before the show about how
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin is 100% not my kind of guy as human.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: But as football coach, Kirby Smart is 100% not your
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: kind of guy in any form or fashion whatsoever. He's
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: a better version of Will Muschamp, who was not just
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: not your kind of guy.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: He was also your team's coach. Yeah, I'm not. Okay.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: As I've aged, I've at least I respect the guy.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Who thinks that football should be won by a field
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: goal in the fourth quarter. I do. I also hate
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: it for the same reason that I hate clearing my
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: bills by a dollar. Right. I don't like it. I
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: like big margins. I want to feel safe. Give me
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: a coach that feels safe. Right. They're like, Hey, you
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: know what? Our toughness is going to get us through this.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: And I'm like a 38 point lead. It'll get you
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: through this.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: You're like, you know, I don't want a great fourth
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: quarter team. I want a great third quarter team.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Third quarter team. I want you to foreclose on them. Okay.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Like I respect what Ohio state's doing by playing as
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: little football as possible to get to the playoff. That's
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: the smartest thing. Could you guys just hang 50 on somebody?
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Hang 50. I know you could, but you don't want
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: to because you go, well, we can burn the clock.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: We can just get out of here. It's fine. Cool.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: It's a job to you. Do you know what? Make
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: me feel better as a fan flames. Like, You know,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Curtis LeMay, the head of the Strategic Air Command, was
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: once asked why he needed 10 times as many bombs
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: to destroy a target as was necessary. Because in the
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: words of the interrogator, the questioner said, why do you
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: need to reduce everything? You know, it's already done. You've
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: already reduced everything to cinders, right? It's all ashes. And
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: he goes, yeah, but I want to watch the ashes dance.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: And it's like, that's the kind of psychopath I want
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: as a head coach. Dan Lanning. When Dan Lanning gets
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: that chance, that's what he does. He's like, hey, you
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: know what's better than a 14-point lead? A 21-point lead.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: You know what's better than a 21-point lead? 28-point lead.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: So I respect it, Kirby. I do get it. I
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: really love that emphasis on the process and on dominating
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: people every down. You know what else I like? I
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: like annihilation. I like watching a team do that because
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I'm nervous. I'd really prefer to be up by 40.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I want to point out something. Speaking of teams.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: That are by 40, talk about this with Ohio State.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: And they are playing Indiana this week in. OK, so
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: one of the arguments that anti-playoff people and to be clear,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I have always been an anti-playoff person. And the actual
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: existence of the playoff has only made me more resolute
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and clearer than ever that I was right in the
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: first place. One of the arguments was that these regular
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: season games are just not going to hit like they
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: used to. And I've heard people make the spin. But no, look,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: the ratings are up for da da da and all
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: of this stuff.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Fine.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you this week that there's a one
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: versus two matchup in the Big Ten championship game. And
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: it is the least anticipated one versus two matchup that
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I think we have ever had. In part because of
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: having this playoff that's just going to run next week.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: And I think now, granted, these teams, Michigan and Michigan
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: and Indy fucking Anna. But these teams haven't really played
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: much of anybody. Ohio State had the big win against
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Texas to start the season. Since then, no win to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: truly speak of. Indiana has, I mean, honestly, what might
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: be the best win anybody has this year, that win
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: at Oregon by 10 points.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I do want to point this out, though.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Indiana has given up 24 to Penn State and 20
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: to Oregon, and that's the most points they've given up
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: all year long. Ohio State has not given up more
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: than 16 points this year. These two teams have been
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: annihilating people. Like Ohio State, the closest they had to
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the scare was Texas. Indiana had the one against Penn State.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: But these two teams have been waxing people, but it's
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: in part because of the calendar, because they're waxing people
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: because all they play against is floors.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: So the joke of the Big Ten is that everybody's
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: a flavor of Purdue, right? Wisconsin, that's Derry, Derry-Purdue, right?
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: That's Cowboys. Purdue. You know, Illinois, that science Purdue, which
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I know, sorry, Purdue, your rocket science, Purdue, not general science.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: You know, even Penn state became ice cream Purdue this year.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Like they are all different variations of Purdue. It's, One
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: of the reasons we're not excited about this one, too,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: is because of the calendar. We've talked about the calendar.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: The calendar, nothing in this sport is built for the calendar.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Nothing in this sport makes sense because of the calendar.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: It's like 90 different people planned it without looking to
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: see what overlapped. By the way, did you know that
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: we're two, I believe two days at this point, shy
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: of an early signing day, which.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Is all in the middle of this? The worst idea
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: they ever had, by the way.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Dumb. Dumb.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: To me, that's the biggest one. That's the biggest thing
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: that's messed up the calendar. That's the one that's getting
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: people fired in September.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. it accelerated all of this. Like it made everything
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: much less stable. There's no coaches and their hiring period
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: can't coordinate with recruits and their signing period, which can't
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: coordinate with the schedule, which by the way, the big
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: 10 schedule sucks this year, but that's not necessarily the
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: big 10s fault. It's not, it's just the quality of
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: teams right now, the big 10, by having so many
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: teams at that bottom of the big 10, the bottom
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: five or six teams, it's as bad as you'll see
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: in any conference. maybe worse just because one conference is huge.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: You're going to have more bad teams and more good teams,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: but at the top, it's so stratified, you know, Ohio
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: state will beat Indiana. I feel real confident saying that
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: if they do lose to Indiana, then that is, that
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: should go down as one of the great upsets in
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: college football history. I, I know Indiana has been great
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: this year and they were great last year. And Kurt
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Cignetti has done a remarkable job there. One that I
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: think is like for the books, there is nobody, who
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: in my mind has engineered a bigger turnaround. Like we're
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: now putting this in the category of Bill Snyder, Barry Alvarez,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: people who have gone in and take programs that are
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: historical doormats and turned them into mean top tier programs.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: That said, if they do upset them, you're going to
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: have to put another superlative next to Kurt Cignetti's name.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Cause in my mind, that would be the biggest upset
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: in a championship game in forever years. Like, because this
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Ohio state team, is that far ahead. Their defense alone
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: is one of the best teams in the nation. I
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: just mean their defense, right? If you put them on
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: the field and punted on offense, I think every game
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: would probably be three, nothing. And it would be for
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Ohio state. So I am looking forward to it, but
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I understand why other people aren't because the big 10
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: has been kind of ass right. Top to bottom. It's
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: very stratified. All of the qualities at the top and
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: like two teams. And they've had the most like Penn
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: state really undermine their national standing by utterly collapsing down
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: the stretch. You know, they're going to probably finish 6-6.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I think they finished 6-6. Nobody wants to see that
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: in a bowl game because they were, and I remind everybody,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: a preseason top five. The preseason top five this year,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: by the way, as inaccurate as it has ever been,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: thanks to Penn State and Clemson and Texas, all disappointing.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I know, Texas at 9-3 is disappointing, but look where
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: they were in the preseason. A top 25.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Number one. One.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: This is.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: College football is in a dangerous place, though, where the NBA...
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: had this problem, and I think still has this problem
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: to a degree, which is all the personnel stuff and
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the kind of gossipy stuff started to take precedence over
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: the actual play. Like, for example, right now in the NBA,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, I want to
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: make sure I get this number exact right, but the
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder is 20-1.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: They....
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: They could win 75.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Games this year, right?
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: They are super young. They have a top two player
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: in the NBA. They went 21, by the way, with
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: their second best player, not being on the team, all
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: of this. I don't know what it takes for that
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: to register and really break through, right? But if I
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: told you there was some big trade that was going
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: on or something like that, oh, man, everybody would be
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: all over that.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: And that could get the discussion.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: The college football right now, again, we're coming into this
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: week and it's really all about Lane Kiffin. And I
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: don't know if there's anything that could happen this weekend
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: that would be more interesting to people than Lane Kiffin.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: And I think that's in part because because the conferences
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: have gotten so big, all these games that get played,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: we don't feel like we really know who is and
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: is not good. just because you don't have the iron
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: versus iron that you typically had throughout a season. Because
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: what do you know? Remember when people were like, why
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: do we even have divisions in conferences? That doesn't make
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: any sense. No, iteration is important. Consistency in those things
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: are important. They help us gather information. They help build rivalries.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: They help all these things. And now it's a conference
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: championship weekend that doesn't feel like it matters that much.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you brought up the NBA. I think it
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: feels a lot like boxing where– we have obvious heavyweights
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: and I mean, old school boxing. I don't mean current.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I mean like era of the heavyweights, late seventies, eighties
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: into the nineties, where you're not going to get a
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: whole lot of actual marquee matchups. You're going to get
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: a lot of tomato cans and managing that record, right?
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: If somebody has 40 and one with one loss, then
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: of that 40, you're going to see 35 guys. They
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: pulled off the street, take a beating for cash. And
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: that's what happens when you make big conferences. When you
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: have big conferences and you try to rotate schedules and
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: have everyone play everybody, then you do thin down the
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: testing metal of that conference. You thin down the competitive
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: nature of that conference. It's inevitable. And like the Big Ten,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I think, is suffering from this simply because they are
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: the biggest conference. And I mean that in terms of money.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: And I mean that in terms of geographic spread and
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: in terms of actual number of members. Like they are
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: the biggest right now. And the bottom is so very
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: bad and weak in the middle is not great either.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: That when we ask how good is Ohio state, you go, okay,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: on paper, this is one of the best college football
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: teams I've ever seen. They have not sweat this year.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: They have barely put forth effort and they have managed
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: to wipe everyone on their schedule in an economical fashion,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: like clinical. That's why, like, I think we're sleeping on
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: this Indiana matchup because if they do If they are competitive,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: first of all, congratulations to Indiana because no one else
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: has really been that competitive for the Ohio State. In
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: addition to that, if they manage to upset them, it's
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: going to be a reversal of everything that I think
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: is supposed to happen in the Big Ten by design.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Like Ohio State is supposed to come out of this thing.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: If it's not Ohio State, it's Michigan. And these were
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: our bell cows and these are the ones that drive ratings, right?
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Not to look at this too cynically from a business point,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: but I'm going to do it. The Big Ten has
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: been all about business. I'm just returning the favor, right?
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: This is the conference that has embraced the spreadsheet more
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: than any single conference. And by the way, people go, well,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: that's SEC homerism. No, we can't read spreadsheets. We're not
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: great at that. The SEC has been behind in terms
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: of thinking about this.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: They're just slower. They're slower and they haven't been as
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: reactive and they've made a bet on a different business model.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: And I don't think it's going to wear out. I
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: think the big 10 wins as far as anything can
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: be considered victory in this. But the point is this matchup,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: this matchup has so much on the line in terms of,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: national branding it would also be very ryan day to
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: lose a game at the end of the season that
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: he shouldn't lose and win the national title anyway right
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: lose the big lose the big 10 championship in an
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: upset go on and destroy people in the playoff which
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: was the plan all along like i think that is
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: they've been building to this the playoff is the priority
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: so i don't know kirk catch him sleeping man i would.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Also like to take this moment to make the point
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: that Maybe, just maybe, Lane should have looked at Kurt
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Cignetti who looked at this and was like, nah, how
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: about I just take all this money to stay right
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: here where I'm a god as opposed to I'm going
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: to go jump in some hot grease.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Because that'll impress people.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Hey, listen. Some of us have ADHD. Lane was in
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss for six years. Yeah. I'm going to convert
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: that to normal people years. That's like 200 years anywhere else.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: That's fair. That's 200 years.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: We're talking about, we're talking about a grown man who
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: posts on Instagram stories. Like he is a 23 year
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: old lady.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: And by that, I mean a lot of inspo, right?
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: A lot of like, you know what you do, you
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: do what you need to do for your heart. If
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: someone's in there, you need to let them go. You
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: need to let them go. See if they come back.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Like I've never seen a grown man post like that.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: And this isn't me going, well, that's female posting. No,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. I just haven't seen it. Well, no,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I just haven't seen it. Okay. I've never seen anybody post.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: He posts like, I think my nieces should post. My
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: nieces don't post like that, but he posts like stuff
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: that I'm like, I've never seen a coach do this
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: in my life. And he's 50.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: He's slightly older than I am. Like that's unreal. What
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: a time. What a sport. What a world, man.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: What a world.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: It's the, listen, greatest american sport we just spent we
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: just spent this entire time talking about human resources even
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: our human resources bow is more interesting than any other
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: sport it is like and that's the thing everybody hates
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: right when hr calls leave the building but when college
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: football hr calls and wants to tell some stories have
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: a seat.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Doc here's where college sports generally are like the world
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: okay um i went to grenada last week right Looked
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: kind of like Hawaii, short of flight, gave it a run.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: And they have a bit of.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: An interesting political history in Grenada.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: You're not the first American to land there.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's cool. I got out on my own, right?
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: So I'm there and I don't want to get.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Into all the details of the history because it'll take
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: a little bit too long. But I was thinking about
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: something that involved a bloodless coup and then one that
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: involved a more violent coup. But anyway, Grenada right now
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: has 120,000 people.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Okay. Right.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: That is a small town. Small town is going too far,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: but it is a very, very, very small city, right?
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Like you can go through the list of cities that
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: have 120,000 people and you can see who those places are. Now,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: take a moment. I don't know anything about who runs
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Grenade or anything else. So I'm just operating hypothetically. So
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: take a town that has 120,000 people and imagine who
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: the mayor is of a place that has 120,000 people.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: And you can imagine who the mayor is of a
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: place that has a million people, okay? The mayor of
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: a place that has 120,000 people is not, I mean, New.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: York elected area Adams. You get the point that I'm
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: making here, right?
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: It could be anybody that could be the mayor of
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: a place that has 120,000 people, except that guy isn't
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: a mayor. That guy or woman is a president, a
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: prime minister. And you know what comes with being a
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: president or a prime minister? You get your very own armies. OK,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: so you take whatever little town it is that you
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: have that has one hundred twenty thousand people. And imagine
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: that you let the person in charge of that have
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: a whole ass army to himself.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: OK. Yeah.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Think about that in the context of college sports. OK,
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: there's big, there's small, there's all these things.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: But in the end, there's a lot of people who
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: have armies that should not be allowed to have an
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: army there.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: But something that they have, that's school. That means you
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: get to have an army.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: That means you get to have all kinds of things
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: that a person who's actually operating on the scale of that,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: no one man should have all that power.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. That's college sports.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: That is, hey, I'm going to put it this way.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Lane just took a job where he gets his own tiger. Yes.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: He gets a tiger. That's Scarface. Yes. When you become
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: LSU's coach, there's a tiger there. And it's in your house.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: There's a tiger and a tiger that they also got
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: because the governor decided that they needed a different tiger, right?
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Right, right. Also, can we discuss this? Lane's probably going
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: to post like the tiger is his because we, in
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: the course of all this conversation, did not get to.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Lane might not have even had a dog. Lane had
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: a dog and he posted from a social account for
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: that dog, Juice Kiffin, and now the dog's still in Oxford?
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: You never leave a man behind lane. Never leave a
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: man behind.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: He told everybody, he told everybody to get on that plane.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: And the dog didn't think it was about him.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: He might've had for real. I can't believe I'm saying this.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: We might've had a football coach who had a, a
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Labrador retriever for PR purposes. We might've had a stunt dog, right?
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: A PR dog. That is now, by the way, safe
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: in Oxford, safe in Oxford, But yeah, by the way,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss stripped the verified badge from the Juice Kiffin
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: account when Lane Kiffin took that. So you want to
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: talk about petty? You no longer have the blue check, dog.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: That's beef over there. They ain't paying no more money
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: for that. Spencer Hall, check him out. Channel 6 and
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: various other places.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Talking college football. My man, I greatly appreciate you. Anytime.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 52:40
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