Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / Chad Davidson: Demonic Entertainment, Idolatry, Super Bowl Half-Time Shows
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- 0:00Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
- 0:10defending biblical Christianity.
- 0:13No topic off limits.
- 0:16And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
- 0:20Welcome to another show, friends, and another great guest.
- 0:24We're going to get right to it with Chad Davidson of Good Fight Ministries and 5-11 News.
- 0:31He's got a great podcast.
- 0:32You can check that out at 5-1-1-news.org, and of course, Good Fight.org.
- 0:40We're going to talk about some of the work that they're doing and a book that Chad has
- 0:44coming out.
- 0:45I just literally just found out about it.
- 0:48So we'll talk a little bit about that.
- 0:49Chad Davidson, welcome back to World View Matters.
- 0:52Happy New Year, brother.
- 0:53Hey, happy New Year, bro.
- 0:54I am so excited.
- 0:55I always love being able to talk to my brother in Christ.
- 0:58Yeah, good to see you and good to talk about some of these things.
- 1:00And unfortunately, we talk about some of the hard things that Christians need to hear
- 1:05and be warned about.
- 1:06And one of those things we'll get to today is idolatry and entertainment from Taylor Swift
- 1:13to the Super Bowl halftime shows.
- 1:16We've got to guard our hearts and raise awareness about this stuff.
- 1:20But I want to talk about the book that you have coming out.
- 1:23I know you weren't planning on this, by the way, friends.
- 1:25He wasn't.
- 1:26He didn't know.
- 1:27But I just, one of our friends, Tony, with Good Fight, told me about it and sent me the
- 1:31cover.
- 1:32Jeff put up the cover.
- 1:33We're going to tease this thing, whether Chad likes it or not, Chad O, it's called wrestling
- 1:39with discipleship.
- 1:42As we were talking about before the program, Chad, I'm sure it's a little deeper than
- 1:46Pastor Joe's Sparky book, but not to say that you are deeper than Joe, but as far as
- 1:50the two books go, I just had to say that.
- 1:54It just sounds funny.
- 1:56So wrestling with the discipleship and Sparky.
- 2:00Sparky the broken mirror.
- 2:01No, it's good is to Joe is actually wrote one of the chapters in the book as well.
- 2:07So and that chapter has a lot more words in it than Sparky the Broken Mirror does.
- 2:12But Sparky, as you know, has obviously a deep story, but wrestling with discipleship,
- 2:18it's kind of cool because it was, I was asked like, Hey, if you ever wrote a book,
- 2:23like just write a book on something, I'm like, well, if there's two things that I'm
- 2:26passionate about, I'm a, I'm a head wrestling coach.
- 2:28Once again, I took a couple of years off just to coach my children in kids club.
- 2:33But I have been a wrestling coach now.
- 2:36This is my 14th year as a coach.
- 2:39And not only we've used it for discipleship, we've used it not only for that,
- 2:44but to share the gospel.
- 2:45We have kids coming from secular high school, which is the only place I've coached.
- 2:49I hope when my kids are at high school, I'll be coaching at the very least,
- 2:53they private high school, but that's Christian.
- 2:56But yeah, I've been coaching at public high schools for 15 years.
- 3:00And I've shared the gospel that way.
- 3:02And one of the things that we do, we have 14 chapters in the book.
- 3:05And for those who might be, you know, familiar with wrestling,
- 3:09there are 14 weight classes in high school wrestling.
- 3:12And so I was like, Hey, why don't I do 14 chapters?
- 3:14Each chapter will deal with a different aspect of discipleship,
- 3:18whether it is discipleship through the fear of the Lord or discipleship through witnessing,
- 3:23or just my testimony, you know, and the idea of wrestling with discipleship,
- 3:29it kind of has a double entendre, a double meaning there,
- 3:32because it's not only wrestling with discipleship where I tell stories
- 3:36and give different, you know, pictures of how things worked out in my life
- 3:40and how you can use this example in your walk with Christ,
- 3:45but also, you know, a lot of people don't know much about discipleship.
- 3:49You could watch five videos on YouTube and you could be like,
- 3:52well, this is what discipleship is and this is what discipleship is.
- 3:55And so we try to get right at that at the beginning of the book and let people know
- 3:59what it is, some practical ways by way, by which you could begin discipling
- 4:03because we believe that every believer is called to disciple.
- 4:07Amen. Brother, when it comes out, we're going to have you on again.
- 4:10And friends, it's not available yet, but you said at the end of the month,
- 4:14uh, around the 20 something it's going to come out.
- 4:16Is that right? Yeah, there'll be a soft launch on January 26.
- 4:20Well, it will be available for purchase online.
- 4:23So we're excited about that.
- 4:24And Dave, hopefully he sent you more than cover.
- 4:27I was going to send you the whole book.
- 4:28I'd love to see if you liked it.
- 4:29You can maybe endorse it for us.
- 4:31Hey, Lord willing, I'll do that.
- 4:33And actually Tony sent it to me is that one step ahead of you.
- 4:36All right. Good.
- 4:37I've got I think you just sent it yesterday.
- 4:40But that's when I said, wow, great.
- 4:42Chad, so Kudos brother and discipleship important topic, huge.
- 4:46When we see the lack of gospel presentations and lack of discipleship
- 4:53in two way too many churches.
- 4:55But anyway, so thank you, bro.
- 4:57All right.
- 4:57So before we get to Taylor Swift, because I mean, that's kind of low hanging
- 5:02fruit at this point, maybe five years ago, people still had some hope.
- 5:06Yeah, she's a Christian or yeah, she's conservative or whatever.
- 5:09But now it's pretty clear, um, everything from witchcraft to other things.
- 5:14She's pro, uh, abortion, I believe, and we'll talk about that.
- 5:18But it's January.
- 5:20That means another super bowl is about a month away, less than a month away now.
- 5:25It's just weeks away, the NFL playoffs are taking place.
- 5:29And you and I were talking before we got on the program, we love to follow Christian
- 5:35athletes, like at sports spectrum or other places or just to hear, we know
- 5:40there are Christians on every NFL team.
- 5:43We just don't know who they are because often they won't come out and talk about it
- 5:47or the league want to keep that under wraps.
- 5:49They want to promote social justice and leftist things, other things,
- 5:53but they won't talk about Christianity.
- 5:55They want players to keep quiet.
- 5:57But let's talk about the importance of how we as consumers, when it comes to either
- 6:02television or football, our approach when it comes to the Super Bowl big game,
- 6:07you know, for football fans, but the problem is you've got the commercials
- 6:14during the Super Bowl is one thing.
- 6:16You've got the sexuality.
- 6:17I mean, wherever the Super Bowl is, sex trafficking goes up.
- 6:21Pornography is off the charts.
- 6:23You've got all these issues and then you've got the Super Bowl halftime show.
- 6:28And you guys have done a video every year, Chad, at Good Fight Ministries.
- 6:33And one of them you did was called Satan performs at the Super Bowl.
- 6:37So talk to us about your concerns and why you continue to do these and put these
- 6:42out there knowing that you are offending people that just want to be entertained
- 6:48at the Super Bowl.
- 6:50Yeah, I think the Super Bowl has always been such a great, I guess,
- 6:54an analogy for us when it comes to what is being put across to us.
- 6:57Because one of the things that I noticed was when I started to look at how
- 7:02expensive and my numbers will be way off now because they keep getting more and more
- 7:07expensive because no one really watches live TV anymore except for with sports.
- 7:11Everyone watches, you know, they record it.
- 7:13And if there's commercials, they're going to fly right through them.
- 7:15But not at the Super Bowl, not on those live events when it comes to sports.
- 7:19And so those ads are so expensive.
- 7:23And the fact is, is when you're spending three million or six million or whatever it is
- 7:28for a 30 second ad, if it did not influence people to then their go and buy
- 7:35your products, well, guess what?
- 7:37You would go bankrupt if it wasn't influencing people.
- 7:41And so you imagine that people watching television or movies,
- 7:45whether it's a half hour, three hours, whatever, that they're continuing
- 7:49get the world view, getting what is trying to be pushed across by the directors,
- 7:54by the actors and to think it has no effect on them.
- 7:57Like you got to be kidding me.
- 7:59Nobody would make such an investment.
- 8:00So we know that it's not true.
- 8:02And then when it comes to the Super Bowl, this halftime show over and over again.
- 8:08And to be honest with you, I started working part time and then eventually full time
- 8:13at Good Fight Ministries because when Pastor Joe made the video back in 2012
- 8:20about Beyonce, Sasha, the Super Bowl and Satan, that video was absolutely
- 8:24viral. And it actually crashed all of our websites.
- 8:28Tony had to everything like, well, what is going on?
- 8:32And I was answering a lot of people.
- 8:34Joe was like, we're getting comments in all honesty.
- 8:37Joe and Tony and none of them knew how to moderate any comments or anything.
- 8:41So I was on there as much as possible working a full time job.
- 8:44And I was coaching wrestling as they still him today.
- 8:47And I was commenting back and forth and Joe's like, Hey, bro,
- 8:50could you like do this part time for me?
- 8:52And then so eventually I came on full time answering all the questions
- 8:55for the emails and and so forth.
- 8:57But we began and Joe began saying, wow, look, another artist.
- 9:02Wow, this, this Super Bowl is going to have another artist that has
- 9:05professed to have automatic writing, whatever it is.
- 9:08Or, you know, licentiousness.
- 9:10I mean, a lot of it started, I mean, they've had different shows
- 9:12throughout the years that used to be pretty vanilla, so to speak.
- 9:15But a lot of it started with Janet Jackson and Tim, Justin Timberlake,
- 9:19where he ripped off her shirt exposing her breast to the public on live TV.
- 9:25And then, you know, they tried to, you know, we'll have Tom Petty on or whatever
- 9:29and we'll try to kind of lighten the load here.
- 9:31And then we did an entire show.
- 9:33And this was right when we started filming in this, in this studio now,
- 9:37we did an entire show starting kind of chronologically and showing Madonna,
- 9:43showing obviously with, you know, people like Shakira and JLo,
- 9:47where they're gyrating up there, like a bunch of strippers and people are doing.
- 9:51This is, yes, this is woman empowerment.
- 9:54You're like, this is women, I don't want my daughters to be empowered to dance
- 9:59on stripper poles with geriatrics, you know, and all this stuff.
- 10:02It's just absolutely insane.
- 10:05And then you go and you see the Lady Gaga's of the world.
- 10:08Somebody who was talked about in her, you know, songs about Lucifer and talked
- 10:12about Judas is the demon that she clings to has been seen taking part next
- 10:18to Marina Abramovich eating and dining on what looks like cake made up of human
- 10:25people. Like I'm not saying they were actual humans, but they were actually humans
- 10:29sitting there naked as they eat from them.
- 10:32And you're just seeing all this stuff.
- 10:33And you're like, this is being propagated over and over again.
- 10:38You have apostates like Katy Perry, who have gone out and performed as well,
- 10:43who, you know, I kissed a girl and I liked it.
- 10:45And people were, you know, humming that song along.
- 10:48And we think that all of this stuff is happening.
- 10:50Our kids now, and by the way, like I say, I coach at a secular high school,
- 10:54getting a kid's air pot out of his ear when he's walking around.
- 10:58I mean, I know the kids grow their hair out longer.
- 11:00So teachers won't know that there's an air pot in and they're listening to music
- 11:04more than they ever have before to talk Instagram.
- 11:08And we're fighting the battle of the mind.
- 11:11And sadly enough, so many are losing that battle.
- 11:15Oh my goodness.
- 11:16There's so many things we could talk about right now.
- 11:18But something that struck me was the female artists, this demonic spirit of,
- 11:25I don't know if it's feminism, if it's what is it about the Katy Perry's,
- 11:29the Beyonce's, the Lady Gaga's, the, the female Madonna's,
- 11:34it's not just about being sexual, but there's a demonic drive behind them,
- 11:40their music, their persona, their performances.
- 11:43Talk to that for a moment, Chad.
- 11:45Yeah, I think I actually wrote a post about this maybe about eight years ago.
- 11:49When I noticed the same thing that you're saying right now, like,
- 11:52yeah, Kesha was really big at that time.
- 11:54She's not as big anymore, but Kesha.
- 11:57And like you said, Katy Perry, Madonna.
- 12:00And if you remember Madonna, she really was the one that pushed the envelope.
- 12:04Now don't get me wrong.
- 12:06There was plenty of country music back in the day, you know, what, you know,
- 12:10Patty Klein or whoever it may be, we're pushing this envelope a long time ago.
- 12:14Before we got to Cardi B and hopefully most of the audience doesn't know who that is.
- 12:18You know, it makes stallion or all these different artists that we have.
- 12:22Then, you know, Beyonce, you know, that I need to act like a guy and, and, you know,
- 12:28hook up with girls and not care, or hook up with people and not care.
- 12:31And whatever feminism they try to push, which is, we call it feminism.
- 12:34But most of this is just we want sexual perversion.
- 12:38But I think a lot of it is the same way when you see in these movies,
- 12:43you know, they'll have somebody Betty White passed away, but they'll have her.
- 12:46She's supposed to be a sweet older lady.
- 12:48And next thing, you know, she's cussing and saying provocative things.
- 12:51And they have little children do that in shows as well or old grandpa's or whatever it is.
- 12:57And they want to take those things.
- 12:59And I, you know, I have two daughters and the beauty and the innocence.
- 13:03Then, you know, the purity of these little girls that, that God has given me.
- 13:08And I'm like, man, they're so sweet.
- 13:10They're so innocent.
- 13:11And they want to take it and they want to turn it on its head.
- 13:14You know, plenty of people think guys are dirt bags and all that stuff for some of the things they think and say.
- 13:19But when they can take the women and then make them and show them with this, you know,
- 13:25this, these disgusting acts, it really sees, sees, seems like Satan is done a really good job of grabbing those women,
- 13:32giving them this power through seduction and so forth.
- 13:35And now you mess up the women and the men very easily that way.
- 13:39Oh, man, the way you just sum that up, excellent.
- 13:41Right on Chad, this, this power of seduction.
- 13:44And you're getting, you're affecting both men and women by what they are putting out there and how they're performing.
- 13:49I'll never forget that Beyonce video that, that really opened my eyes because she really admitted that Sasha fierce is this presence,
- 13:57this entity, this spirit that comes in and overtakes her like she's out like demon possessed by another spirit when Beyonce is performing.
- 14:05Anyway, we've got to move on when we come back.
- 14:07We're going to talk a little bit more about a Super Bowl halftime shows, but we'll transition into Taylor Swift, her image,
- 14:14what people think of her and Christians, what, what we should be listening to and not listening to or watching coming up next on World
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- 14:35So our guest is Chad Davidson. He is, by the way, I forgot to mention an elder at good at Blessed Hope Chapel in Seamy Valley, California.
- 14:49Lead pastor is Joe Shimmel whom we've had on the show as well.
- 14:53Chad, we were talking about women that have been performing and doing, you know, just sexualizing the stage and their performances,
- 15:03their songs via dance and provocative movements.
- 15:06And it's been so disturbing.
- 15:07So what one thing would you suggest a Christian family that wants to watch a game?
- 15:14Would you suggest they record so they can fast forward through commercials and even skip the halftime show?
- 15:19What would you suggest?
- 15:21Yeah, I mean, there's a few interesting takes on that.
- 15:24I mean, we at Joe and I, we like to watch football games together.
- 15:28In fact, most of our shows are written while we're sitting around talking and we say, hey, let's, let's do
- 15:32this show. So one of the things we've always done one, they play on Sunday.
- 15:36I don't think that's an accident, by the way, they play them on Sunday morning, typically.
- 15:40So they get recorded and we will watch them later.
- 15:44And really, I think no matter how much you love sports, they have to be the background and not the foreground of your life.
- 15:50I think that's first and foremost, that's most important.
- 15:53I think for anyone, we need to, you know, make sure our eyes just as Joseph did, you know, and we have to make sure that we
- 16:00have a covenant with our eyes that we're not, you know, gazing upon that, which is wicked.
- 16:04And if the game goes from just a simple game, which I love that it's objective in the fact that there's a winner and a loser
- 16:12when so much of the culture, so much of this world wants to tell us that really everything subjective, we all just have opinions.
- 16:19You can be whatever gender you want, you know, whatever, that there is an objective winner and loser.
- 16:25And I think that's why there is such a push for the ESPNs and the ABCs and all this to own so many the sporting organizations, because then all the writers are just positively liberal, almost all of them.
- 16:40And they push these agendas over and over again, immediately Michigan just played Washington in the championship game.
- 16:47And instead of focusing more on guys like Blake Korum, who actually carry the load and score the, and Edwards and score all the touchdowns, let's focus on McCarthy, who barely throws for a hundred yards.
- 16:58Yeah, it meditates and, you know, push Buddhism or whatever it is and look at him, his, you know, psychologist or psychiatrist is there on the sidelines, you know, making him centered or whatever it is.
- 17:10And it's like you got these other guys who love Jesus running the ball down the throat of the defense and, you know, we're worried about the quarterback that, you know, as a game manager, because he's pushing Buddhism.
- 17:21But anyways, I think that that's one of the biggest things is we need to make sure that we're not putting any worthless thing before our eyes that we're not sitting meditating on that weakness.
- 17:30If you want to watch the game and you don't want to participate in that, then there's nothing wrong with turning it off when the ads are on.
- 17:37There's nothing wrong with changing the channel and coming back when the games on are, as you say, recording there are practical ways to do this and not have this junk in front of your face.
- 17:46So we're alluding to idolatry because we can put men or women up on a pedestal, whether that's entertainment, music, actors, celebrities, sports figures.
- 18:00We did a show, I think about six, maybe less than that on Aaron Rogers and the Iowaska, the hallucinogenic, he was taking whatever.
- 18:11And just his, how his decline spiritually has maybe affected his personal life, but yet he's still top of the tier when it comes to popularity.
- 18:21So Chad, what would you say to warn believers that are watching right now about just guarding their hearts, you talked about guarding the mind, but guarding their hearts against this idolatry, putting people up on a pedestal or being careful who we support and don't support.
- 18:41Yeah, I think it's really interesting, you know, people say, you know, one of the easiest way to stop idolatry is to meet your stars.
- 18:48And one of the reasons for that is because they don't meet the bill, right, they don't, they don't actually have that and it's not like that with Jesus.
- 18:55That's what I love is that when I came to Jesus, every time I learned, and this is right now, I've been saved since January 19, 2009, I got saved after watching, they sold their souls for rock and roll.
- 19:07And I'm telling you, every time I'm reading scripture, you're mentioning guarding the heart, that's so much of proverbs, right, of guarding the heart.
- 19:14And I every time I find out about Jesus, the more I find out about him, and that's every day almost where I'm like, I feel like I found something new about Jesus, I'm like, he, it's so much better than I could ever imagine.
- 19:26But so many of these stars, whether it was as a little kid, seeing Mike Piazza, if you guys know baseball and wanting his autographs so bad, as I'm there as a little catcher, seven years old, eight years old, I wanted to have, he was the best hitting catcher, he's a terrible at fielding, but he, like I want his autograph, and I'm begging him for his autograph, and he writes his number for a girl that's behind me, you know, and you're like, oh man, this stinks, I thought my star, I would be so excited with who he is, you know,
- 19:56and the truth is meet them, I mean, it's all shambles, and that's what I, you know, I'm reading through so much of even Jeremiah chapter nine and chapter 10, where God is, is telling Jeremiah that he's bringing a rebuke towards Israel, and then towards the nations, and then he calls him this over and over again about their idols, like how dumb, how stupid it is that you would follow these idols, like you got to carry him around, you know, it's embarrassing, it's like Elijah with the prophets of bail.
- 20:26And he's like, where's your God, is he out using the restroom, like, where is he, and then I literally just gave his best so funny for our, we have a young adults group at church that my wife and I, we run it at our house, and I gave the message, it was talking about more, you know, making plans for the new year and making sure you're in the word and kind of just saying Lord, I want to place this in your hands, because ultimately, you know, a man plans his way, but the Lord doesn't want to direct the steps, but I said, how many people, you know, sit here and yeah, we may even look
- 20:56and see, man, somebody with an asterisk pole or somebody, you know, have these, you know, idols that they worship, how ridiculous, but then how many people, even Christians paid $1300 to go worship their idol, tailor, swith at Sofai Stadium, right? Well, the how dumb is that, like we have a God, we can be siege, and you have people, and that's what they're doing, those are worship services. I mean, that's really what they are when you look at a lot of these concerts, their worship services, you'll hold up signal.
- 21:26To them, you are singing with them, you are meditating on their words day and night, and you're not running against water, you're with scoffers, and so people are doing it all the time. It just instead of a piece of what it's the American idol, well, exactly American idol appropriately named show, right? Now, I want to talk about Taylor Swift. You've done several videos at good fight on the YouTube channel. One of them is called Taylor Swift from high school sweetheart to provocative witch,
- 21:56very strong words, and just share your thoughts on that. That was just two months ago, and it's been sad to see the transformation. You often see that. It happened to Miley Cyrus, like what she ended up doing, you know, sadly, she was in a quote unquote Christian home, whatever that means, but let's talk about Taylor Swift.
- 22:15Because a lot of questions, listen, that's why we're talking about this. A lot of Christians do listen to Taylor Swift, and you mentioned this already, you mentioned Miley Cyrus, you could go down the list of everything that happened at Disney and what came out of it, whether it was the Christina Aguilera's or the Britney Spears or more recently, like you mentioned Miley Cyrus, but Daniel Votto, who's gone back and forth between wanting to be a man or not, you know, all these different, you know, Disney stars, and it's, you know, the
- 22:45what looks to be pure and innocent and sadly enough, the parents push them towards this stardom, and next thing you know, when you watch the interviews later after the destruction, and they look nothing like they used to, you really get to see the veneer ripped off, and it's a sad, sad thing to watch and Taylor Swift, who was originally writing songs like tear drops on my guitar was honored at the country music awards and plenty of people saw her as that eventually the lyrics began more
- 23:15and more provocative, more and darker and darker, and now you're looking with her song Willow, it looks like a witch's cousin, and in fact, we've x witches, and Doreen Virtue, one of them, and I know she's been on your show as well, talked about, look at a picture, this is me at a witch's cousin, doing the exact thing that Taylor Swift is doing while performing willow, and it's kind of crazy when you're seeing that stuff, you're like, wow, this is interesting that you see.
- 23:45It's pushing that then when she's performing songs in other countries as well, all of a sudden, you know, stuff happens where a plane comes by while she's talking about manifesting or something, and she goes, well, I'm not going to, you know, lose any of the nobody's going to say I'm not a witch or whatever, and you see her pushing this stuff over and over again, and people, I don't know how this went kind of brushed onto the rug.
- 24:09But a few years ago, and you mentioned this earlier, not only did she promote abortion, but she said all Christians, if you're truly a Christian, you're a promoter portion, but she came out with the song titled, you need to calm down, and she came out the music video, and what she did in that music video was basically make it that Christians are just uneducated trailer park people and can't even spell certain words right there, they're not smart, they had billboards holding up signs that were spelled
- 24:39incorrectly to show how dumb they are, they're just a bunch of white trash people, it looks like she's trying to say, and then you also have her doing a gay wedding in the in the trailer park, doing having trans involves, she is mocking Christians, she telling Christians, you need to calm down, you can't stand up for the biblical sexual ethic that God's word has prescribed because he's designed us, he knows how we're made, and the things that she is pushing are wicked.
- 25:08And all that's happened is now she's had an oh, it's open sesame for sports fans or actually typically it's guys who liked football and they know Travis Kelsey and now she's dating him, one of many stars that she's publicly dated, and now she's dating him and now the football guys, guess what, they're sitting down and watching the game with their girlfriend or spouse, and now they're excited because maybe Taylor Swift will be on film usually saying some fouls.
- 25:38The word about a call she doesn't like that they broadcast out there, so all the veneer of innocence has now been showcased for what it truly is, and that is now that she's not America sweetheart, she's pushing witchcraft.
- 25:52Thank you, thank you for being so straightforward Chad, if this needs to get out there and friends, you just heard just a few examples of how Taylor Swift and others, the Katie Perrys, the Myles are there mocking God mocking biblical Christianity and believers, do you want to let your kids continue to listen to Taylor Swift?
- 26:13There's a question put that put that out to you and you handle your household, the way you feel you should under God, but I'll never forget how do we respond as Christians, one example, the Grammys, Natalie Grant, Christian singer was up for a Grammy, she walked out of the ceremony.
- 26:32When Katie Perry was doing, I believe it was dark horse with the witches in the the Knights Templar and the demonic stuff on stage, Natalie Grant walked out and that was I think the same one they had a gay marriage ceremony led by Queen Latifa, I think if I remember right.
- 26:48But anyway, so Natalie Grant walks out and she said, I just want to say I love Jesus, she didn't condemn the person Katie Perry or the producers of the Grammys and other award shows, but how do we respond are we willing to walk out on this godless and demonic entertainment, so to speak, walk out, meaning stop listening, stop buying, stop consuming your final thought Chad in 30 seconds.
- 27:14Hey man, I couldn't agree more, can you walk out, can turn away and do that very thing that you should do and place no evil thing before you and say, I don't know about the world, but I'm going to follow Jesus.
- 27:27Brother, I love you, good fight ministries, please go to their YouTube channel, guys, look up good fight ministries, Chad, Lord willing, we will have you back when your book is officially out, count, wait, talk about wrestling with discipleship, God bless you, keep up the great work.
- 27:41We love you guys to praise and learn.
- 27:43All right, thanks Chad.
- 27:44All right guys, got to wrap it up, but we'll see you next time. God bless you and as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.