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- 0:12Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the largener John Glider Podcast, the
- 0:15Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening around us
- 0:18Speaker 1: and how excited we are about them. I'm Ariel Caston,
- 0:21Speaker 1: and with me, as always, is the brilliant, kind of
- 0:23Speaker 1: wonderful Jonathan struck one poop.
- 0:27Speaker 2: No. Before we started recording, we were we were having
- 0:32Speaker 2: scatological conversations and then just say, I bled over into
- 0:36Speaker 2: the episode. I'm sorry, but I'll leave it. I'll leave
- 0:39Speaker 2: the rest behind. That's where the comes out.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Yeah, wipe it from your memory.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Okay, good, you have won up me. I appreciate that.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Uh yeah. So we're gonna do a slightly different episode today,
- 0:55Speaker 2: only in the sense that we've removed a couple of
- 0:57Speaker 2: like we removed the question of the week and stuff
- 0:59Speaker 2: like that. We're both busy. Ariel Is has had a
- 1:05Speaker 2: heck of a week and so and I mean, you're
- 1:08Speaker 2: gonna have a little bit of a time away. And
- 1:12Speaker 2: originally we thought that your vacation and my vacation we're
- 1:16Speaker 2: gonna dovetail and we're gonna miss two weeks in a row.
- 1:18Speaker 2: As it turns out, No, I'm stupid and can't read
- 1:21Speaker 2: a calendar and our vacations overlap, so theoretically we will
- 1:28Speaker 2: miss next week because both of us will not be
- 1:31Speaker 2: in the state of Georgia, but we should, assuming everything's
- 1:36Speaker 2: going well, be back the following week.
- 1:38Speaker 1: And you're not stupid for that. Look, this year, we've
- 1:42Speaker 1: apparently jumped into some new alternate timeline, and time is
- 1:45Speaker 1: just wibbly wobbly.
- 1:47Speaker 2: I think ever since the pandemic, if I'm being honest,
- 1:49Speaker 2: like part of it is, you know, working from home.
- 1:52Speaker 2: I love working from home, don't get me wrong, but
- 1:55Speaker 2: it does be defining what day I'm in has become
- 1:59Speaker 2: more of a challenge.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually started. I probably said this like five
- 2:03Speaker 1: times this week, but I or this month, but I
- 2:06Speaker 1: have no brains. So I started journaling every day just
- 2:12Speaker 1: at least something good that happened in the day. So
- 2:15Speaker 1: Monday I did this, and Tuesday I did this, just
- 2:18Speaker 1: so that I could be more cognizant of time. And
- 2:20Speaker 1: it really worked. And then I got busy and I
- 2:22Speaker 1: forgot to do it, and now it's a half a
- 2:23Speaker 1: year later.
- 2:24Speaker 2: So yeah, those habits are hard, right. You gotta really
- 2:29Speaker 2: stay at it for a while before it just becomes
- 2:32Speaker 2: habit and yeah. I mean, Lord knows, I've got plenty
- 2:36Speaker 2: of examples of that as well. I was gonna also
- 2:39Speaker 2: say we mentioned in a previous episode. So we are
- 2:44Speaker 2: a month away essentially from dragon Con, and Ariel will
- 2:51Speaker 2: be performing at dragon Con. So if you go to
- 2:53Speaker 2: dragon Con, you can see and hear Aeriel perform, and
- 2:58Speaker 2: she'll be performing in in one of the shows scripts
- 3:01Speaker 2: that I wrote.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Yeah, and scripts that we tried to get highly produced
- 3:08Speaker 1: to watch. At one point, I'll be playing the same character.
- 3:10Speaker 1: So that's fun. I love I love these scripts, Jonathan.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Well, and I love the effect that I got to
- 3:17Speaker 2: go in and update. So I had a script where
- 3:21Speaker 2: the whole concept is it's a parody of of of
- 3:24Speaker 2: comic book stories, and I had tried to parody pulp
- 3:31Speaker 2: comic writers who were very bad at writing for minorities.
- 3:37Speaker 2: But the problem was I determined that my satire really
- 3:41Speaker 2: didn't come across as satire. It just felt like I
- 3:43Speaker 2: was engaged in the same kind of bad taste jokes.
- 3:48Speaker 2: And it's one of those things that's bugged me for years.
- 3:52Speaker 2: But I'm like, well, that's written, it's done. But the
- 3:55Speaker 2: director reached out to me and asked if we might
- 3:57Speaker 2: be able to tweak that character. And so I was like,
- 4:00Speaker 2: not only are we gonna tweak, we're gonna rip that
- 4:01Speaker 2: character out. We're gonna replace them with someone totally different.
- 4:05Speaker 2: And I was very appreciative of that opportunity to address
- 4:09Speaker 2: something that've been bugging me for a long time. So
- 4:11Speaker 2: I'm glad that the folks who go to this show.
- 4:15Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's brilliant humor, but it's really funny.
- 4:19Speaker 1: It's really funny.
- 4:20Speaker 2: It's very silly.
- 4:22Speaker 1: And let me tell you, like the director who's directing this,
- 4:27Speaker 1: she is super awesome. She's very socially conscious, and she
- 4:31Speaker 1: has been wanting to do these scripts for a while.
- 4:35Speaker 1: She has been wanting to put these scripts back up
- 4:38Speaker 1: and put them together. So she's really excited, which just
- 4:41Speaker 1: goes to show you, even with stuff that didn't hold
- 4:44Speaker 1: up to time, like, they're still really good and fun stories.
- 4:47Speaker 2: So yeah, it makes me kind of want to go
- 4:49Speaker 2: and write a few new ones. And I'm really sad
- 4:53Speaker 2: because like the one I wrote that was kind of
- 4:55Speaker 2: the capper to the series for what I was thinking
- 4:58Speaker 2: of as season one is lost to time, Like I know,
- 5:04Speaker 2: I know kind of what happened in it, but I
- 5:06Speaker 2: don't remember any of the jokes. I remember that it's
- 5:11Speaker 2: a take your daughter to work day was the plot,
- 5:15Speaker 2: and my doctor Strange stand in Odd Doc brings his daughter,
- 5:21Speaker 2: who's a robot, to work, and by the end of it,
- 5:25Speaker 2: one of the heroes has decided to turn into a villain.
- 5:28Speaker 2: And that's like the cliffhanger. And I really was proud
- 5:31Speaker 2: of that episode. That's literally all I can remember from it, though,
- 5:35Speaker 2: and there's no record of it I've got. I don't
- 5:38Speaker 2: have the script. It's not like I don't have an
- 5:40Speaker 2: electronic copy. I don't have a hard copy. It's just gone.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Stuff like that just drives me crazy. It is also
- 5:46Speaker 1: fun because you know, these scripts, I started doing them
- 5:52Speaker 1: when I very first joined Artsy years ago, and so
- 5:57Speaker 1: like the person I remember playing the Zipper is now
- 6:00Speaker 1: voicing Odd Doc, and it's just if I'm remembering the
- 6:04Speaker 1: correct person.
- 6:05Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny. So is that? Wow? Really Jack is
- 6:09Speaker 2: still with Artsy? That's crazy, that's awesome.
- 6:12Speaker 1: I mean I think in the same way that I am, like,
- 6:15Speaker 1: come and go.
- 6:16Speaker 2: Yeah, you know my dad voiced on Doc originally.
- 6:19Speaker 1: No, that's so good.
- 6:22Speaker 2: He played him kind of like, uh, the doctor Smith
- 6:27Speaker 2: character from Lost in Space. It was a lot of fun. Yeah,
- 6:32Speaker 2: I can't. I'm eager to hear well first if anyone
- 6:35Speaker 2: shows up, and too if they enjoyed it. Uh so
- 6:38Speaker 2: uh because I will not be a dragon con so
- 6:40Speaker 2: I will not get to see the performance of my work.
- 6:42Speaker 2: But I'm hopeful that it goes over well. So what
- 6:47Speaker 2: have you watched if you had if you had time
- 6:49Speaker 2: to watch anything, You've been so busy. But have you
- 6:51Speaker 2: watched anything since our last recording? I like, did you
- 6:56Speaker 2: see the Odyssey?
- 6:57Speaker 1: I didn't see the Odyssey. I wanted to, it just
- 7:00Speaker 1: didn't work out. I like, I've put stuff on because
- 7:10Speaker 1: I've been working, Like I've had so much going on
- 7:12Speaker 1: that I've been working late every night. And then you
- 7:15Speaker 1: need to have that like buffer time to shut your bride.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Need to have that buffer time to like shut my
- 7:19Speaker 1: brain down before I can actually lay down and sleep
- 7:21Speaker 1: or else it's just going to keep problem solving and
- 7:27Speaker 1: which can be anxiety inducing, and then you don't sleep
- 7:31Speaker 1: and then you just scroll AMSR videos until four I
- 7:34Speaker 1: am So I have watched some stuff, but it's not
- 7:38Speaker 1: been anything like super cool and new for the most part,
- 7:43Speaker 1: like the shows that I'm excited about watching. Either, I
- 7:46Speaker 1: have to get Tony to be in a place where
- 7:48Speaker 1: he wants to watch one more episode like The Bay,
- 7:50Speaker 1: The Bay, so that I can just watch through the
- 7:52Speaker 1: rest of it. Is it the Bay, Widows Widows, Widow's Bay?
- 7:57Speaker 1: And then some of it hasn't come out yet, Like
- 7:59Speaker 1: three different times, Amazon's been like new season of Batman
- 8:03Speaker 1: Caped Crusader, and I've clicked on. I've been like, it's
- 8:05Speaker 1: not out yet. Stop stop.
- 8:07Speaker 2: I saw I saw an article the other day talking
- 8:09Speaker 2: about how more people need to be excited by it,
- 8:12Speaker 2: and I'm like, I am excited by it. Is it
- 8:14Speaker 2: out already? And I was going to check today?
- 8:16Speaker 1: So I think it comes out today?
- 8:19Speaker 2: Okay, excellently, because I, like I said in the last
- 8:22Speaker 2: week's episode, I really enjoyed the first season.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so I did watch one thing. I finally
- 8:27Speaker 1: finished my group watch of the newest season of Vox Machina,
- 8:32Speaker 1: and I will say, knowing what happens in that season,
- 8:36Speaker 1: they were still able to take me on a really
- 8:38Speaker 1: cool emotional journey, So well done on them. I had
- 8:44Speaker 1: some friends who thought that this season was the final
- 8:46Speaker 1: season and it ends in a real bad place. So
- 8:48Speaker 1: thank goodness, there's one more coming up. There's five seasons
- 8:53Speaker 1: stotal in this the season four, I think, And then
- 8:56Speaker 1: I've been watching a bunch of smash Eat It or
- 8:58Speaker 1: Eat It because I just need.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Dumb are those are fun? I also suggest you check
- 9:04Speaker 2: out Culinary Crimes from them, and that's that's a show
- 9:09Speaker 2: where they have grabbed posts on various threads about making
- 9:16Speaker 2: a recipe, but someone has gone in and like substituted
- 9:21Speaker 2: key ingredients, like I didn't have any flowers, so I
- 9:24Speaker 2: use blank, and it's up to the panel to try
- 9:28Speaker 2: and figure out what was what was substituted, like what
- 9:32Speaker 2: did they use instead, and then to judge whether or
- 9:35Speaker 2: not it's a crime. And they also get to try
- 9:37Speaker 2: They get to try the altered recipe, and then after that,
- 9:42Speaker 2: after they've had their discussion, they get to try the
- 9:44Speaker 2: real thing. Then they decide what is the sentence for
- 9:47Speaker 2: the person who create who committed the culinary crime? And
- 9:51Speaker 2: Courtney is the host, and they are so darn goofy
- 9:57Speaker 2: it makes me laugh every time, except for the fact
- 10:00Speaker 2: that Courtney will say case closed instead of instead of
- 10:05Speaker 2: instead of like you know, Cord adjourned or whatever.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Courtney. Sometimes she talks at a pace
- 10:11Speaker 1: that I can't follow, but I think that's the same
- 10:14Speaker 1: for everybody. There's a couple of people on smash who
- 10:18Speaker 1: just like get so excited they talk so fast their
- 10:20Speaker 1: sentences stop being words. It reminds me of I do
- 10:25Speaker 1: need to watch that. I haven't yet, But I love
- 10:27Speaker 1: stuff like that because I've been missing actually recently been like, man,
- 10:30Speaker 1: I wish there were more episodes of it Tasties Lost
- 10:32Speaker 1: in Translation, where they would take a recipe and they'd
- 10:36Speaker 1: put it through There's not any new episodes, so you'd
- 10:38Speaker 1: have to go back and watch old ones. But they
- 10:39Speaker 1: put it through Google Translate, through a whole bunch of
- 10:41Speaker 1: different languages in the back to English, and then they
- 10:44Speaker 1: give it to the chef to create, and so they
- 10:48Speaker 1: have to figure out, like put in five cans of tears,
- 10:52Speaker 1: what the hell is that?
- 10:53Speaker 2: You know, what is this supposed to be?
- 10:56Speaker 1: What is it supposed to be? And then at the
- 10:57Speaker 1: end they bring out the actual recipe and they get
- 10:59Speaker 1: to see how close they were and if what they
- 11:01Speaker 1: made was edible. And it's a lot of fun.
- 11:03Speaker 2: So that's very funny. It's kind of a similar concept. Yeah,
- 11:06Speaker 2: I think you would really dig culinary crimes. It's I
- 11:09Speaker 2: actually prefer that to eat it or eat it, depending
- 11:13Speaker 2: upon who the guest like investigators are like Amanda is
- 11:17Speaker 2: always fun and yeah, you know there are others who
- 11:20Speaker 2: are great. Rasha is fun too, So Shane is fun.
- 11:25Speaker 2: He's not on it much, but it is fun when
- 11:27Speaker 2: he's there. So yeah, that's great, I think.
- 11:30Speaker 1: I oh, well, when I think. I watched this week's
- 11:34Speaker 1: Game Changer, which was really weird and interesting because they
- 11:37Speaker 1: took their Make Some Noise game that was originally a
- 11:40Speaker 1: game Changer and then got spun off to its own
- 11:42Speaker 1: show and brought it back and messed it all up.
- 11:44Speaker 2: So that was a lot of fun, nice deconstructing their
- 11:47Speaker 2: own games. Well, one thing I will say is while
- 11:52Speaker 2: you were chatting, I got an alert from Amazon saying
- 11:54Speaker 2: Kit Crusader Season two is now available, So, like you said,
- 11:58Speaker 2: today is the day. But I watched the Hadestown pro shot.
- 12:04Speaker 2: My partner and I went and caught a screening of it.
- 12:08Speaker 2: It's funny because originally the screening we were going to
- 12:11Speaker 2: go see was up at Phipps Plaza, which is not
- 12:14Speaker 2: close to us, but at the time, it was the
- 12:17Speaker 2: closest theater that had screening showing. But one thing I
- 12:21Speaker 2: gotta say about AMC, they make it very easy for
- 12:24Speaker 2: you to refund your ticket if you haven't gone to
- 12:26Speaker 2: the show yet. And I refunded it because a theater
- 12:29Speaker 2: much much closer ended up having a screening, so it
- 12:34Speaker 2: was way more convenient for us. So I was able
- 12:36Speaker 2: to refund the ticket and switch it to a different
- 12:40Speaker 2: screening a different theater. We really enjoyed it. I thought
- 12:45Speaker 2: the story of Orpheus and Eurydicy was going to wreck
- 12:49Speaker 2: me emotionally. As it turns out, it was the story
- 12:52Speaker 2: of Hades and Persephone that left me like sobbing Orpheus
- 12:58Speaker 2: and Euryticity. I think it also is dependent upon where
- 13:01Speaker 2: you are in your in your life, and since I'm
- 13:03Speaker 2: in my fifties now, I identify way more with Hades
- 13:07Speaker 2: and Persephone than with the young lovers.
- 13:10Speaker 1: And I would also think that like when you talk
- 13:13Speaker 1: about that whole story, right the Orpheus in your city
- 13:18Speaker 1: or Orpheus in ere intity, you're a city, story gets
- 13:23Speaker 1: told a lot more. It's a lot more prom like
- 13:26Speaker 1: through my growing up because I used to love Greek
- 13:28Speaker 1: stories like that, Like just I heard that story a
- 13:31Speaker 1: lot more often than I heard the Hades persephone stories.
- 13:34Speaker 2: So yeah, really enjoyed it. Had a nice time at
- 13:39Speaker 2: the theater. The other thing I wanted to mention, I'm
- 13:43Speaker 2: sure I watched one or two other things, but nothing's
- 13:45Speaker 2: jumping to mine. I do plan to see Odyssey this
- 13:47Speaker 2: weekend as well as Spider Man. But I played a
- 13:53Speaker 2: computer game that you might want to check out called
- 13:57Speaker 2: Incident at Galley House is. It is a deduction investigation game,
- 14:04Speaker 2: and I don't want to give anything away where it
- 14:06Speaker 2: spoils anything, but the basic premise is you're in an
- 14:10Speaker 2: old abandoned house where a whole bunch of bodies were
- 14:14Speaker 2: found in the nineteen forties, and you have a machine
- 14:19Speaker 2: that lets you, if you know the right location and
- 14:24Speaker 2: the identities of the people who were present during a
- 14:28Speaker 2: particular moment a sequence, you can set the machine and
- 14:33Speaker 2: then you can see what happened. And as you see
- 14:39Speaker 2: the scene, you'll get hints about where other people are,
- 14:42Speaker 2: or where people are going, or where they just came from.
- 14:46Speaker 2: So there's a whole element there that is really dependent
- 14:57Speaker 2: upon you paying attention, but it creates a trans script
- 15:00Speaker 2: as well, so you can actually go back through the
- 15:01Speaker 2: transcript and read it. You don't have to just replay
- 15:03Speaker 2: the scene over and over again. Sometimes that's useful, but
- 15:08Speaker 2: I highly recommend it it. I won't say that I
- 15:11Speaker 2: loved the story. I felt the story got very strange
- 15:14Speaker 2: and not necessarily in a way that appealed to me.
- 15:16Speaker 2: But the gameplay, like the figuring things out and piecing
- 15:19Speaker 2: information together and going to the right location that I
- 15:23Speaker 2: thought was really fun.
- 15:24Speaker 1: That does sound fun. I'll definitely have to try it.
- 15:28Speaker 1: My character in my Eberon game is actually an inquisitive rogue,
- 15:33Speaker 1: and so they have like one of those time bubbled things.
- 15:37Speaker 1: And I don't know if this exists in Eberon or
- 15:40Speaker 1: if my DM made it up, but it's basically like
- 15:42Speaker 1: a big time bubbled magnifying glass thing that if you
- 15:45Speaker 1: put it in a room and set it to the
- 15:46Speaker 1: time when people were in there, you can see what happened.
- 15:48Speaker 1: So very similar, So it sounds like a lot of
- 15:50Speaker 1: fun to play through.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Yeah, and this was a remake of a text based
- 15:56Speaker 2: game that had come out. I think it's called Type
- 15:58Speaker 2: Help was the name of the game, and it's by
- 16:02Speaker 2: the same studio that did the root trees are dead,
- 16:05Speaker 2: which is another like deductive reasoning game where you're filling
- 16:09Speaker 2: out a family tree based on little clues that you find.
- 16:12Speaker 2: Also a great game, uh, you know, a great puzzle game.
- 16:15Speaker 2: So Becca and I played Incident at Gelly House together,
- 16:18Speaker 2: which sped things up considerably for me because we think
- 16:22Speaker 2: in different ways. So some puzzles that would come really
- 16:26Speaker 2: easily to me, she didn't see and saying for puzzle
- 16:29Speaker 2: she saw and I'm like, oh wow, I didn't. I
- 16:32Speaker 2: wasn't even thinking that way. So it's a good game
- 16:35Speaker 2: to play with with a second person if they're into
- 16:39Speaker 2: that kind of puzzle stuff. But the story does get
- 16:41Speaker 2: kind of I mean, it doesn't get kind of, it
- 16:43Speaker 2: gets whack a doodle crazy. But yeah, so it depends
- 16:48Speaker 2: on your tolerance for that kind of thing too.
- 16:51Speaker 1: I mean I'm pretty wacked itole crazy myself, so fair enough.
- 16:56Speaker 2: Okay, well we can jump right into our thirty seconds
- 17:00Speaker 2: or less.
- 17:01Speaker 1: Well, hold on real quick, I don't need any margaritas today,
- 17:04Speaker 1: please stop.
- 17:07Speaker 2: It didn't work, oh, Chux, I thought you were going
- 17:10Speaker 2: to address the fact that somehow you had an equipment
- 17:13Speaker 2: change in the middle of our conversation.
- 17:16Speaker 1: I didn't. That's the thing is I pressed mute so
- 17:18Speaker 1: I could adjust my chair without sounding all creaky, and
- 17:21Speaker 1: then when I unmuted.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Oh okay, so it should still be the same mic.
- 17:26Speaker 2: It sounds the same to me, so it just means
- 17:28Speaker 2: the same mic. It just means I'm going to have
- 17:30Speaker 2: some editing fun. No big deal. Sorry listen.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Also, usually we should mention that yeah, oh sorry. As
- 17:36Speaker 1: of right now, since I also hope to see Spider
- 17:38Speaker 1: Man this weekend, it is apparently the top rated MCU
- 17:42Speaker 1: movie of all time.
- 17:43Speaker 2: That's great. I have done well to avoid spoilers. Everyone
- 17:51Speaker 2: seems determined to let me know who Sadie Sinnc is playing,
- 17:54Speaker 2: and so far I have not seen so hopefully that
- 17:56Speaker 2: continues before I get until I get to see the movie. Well,
- 18:00Speaker 2: despite the fact that Jimmy Buffett's ghost continues to haunt
- 18:03Speaker 2: Aerial and Wi Fi ghosts are screwing up our connectivity
- 18:08Speaker 2: and making this episode harder than it should be, we
- 18:11Speaker 2: are continuing to barrel forward into thirty seconds or less.
- 18:17Speaker 1: I think it just lost like four Sam, You start to.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Take you a second to figure out what I meant
- 18:23Speaker 2: by Jimmy Buffett's ghost yes, yes, good, you're in Margaritaville.
- 18:27Speaker 2: All right, here we go San Diego. Comic Con was
- 18:31Speaker 2: just last weekend and the MCU came out in full
- 18:33Speaker 2: force at a huge panel in Hall h A ton
- 18:37Speaker 2: of folks who will be in Avengers Doomsday appeared, plus
- 18:40Speaker 2: Deadpool crashed the panel, and we learned that David Johnson
- 18:44Speaker 2: will play to Challa's son and be the new Black Panther,
- 18:47Speaker 2: and that Ryan Gosling will be a new Ghost Rid. Oh. Also,
- 18:51Speaker 2: everyone who went to that panel got doom cowl and masks.
- 18:56Speaker 1: Wow, that is impressive. I heard people were sad that
- 18:59Speaker 1: the slate isn't that big, but it sounds like they're
- 19:01Speaker 1: working on stuff, they just aren't announcing it yet.
- 19:04Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 19:06Speaker 1: Also in hall Ah at Comic Con, we got a
- 19:10Speaker 1: wonderful appearance by I say we I wasn't there by
- 19:13Speaker 1: Rick Moranis, who will be reprising his role in the
- 19:17Speaker 1: new Spaseball sequel. This is such wonderful news because he
- 19:21Speaker 1: took a long break from acting to take care of
- 19:23Speaker 1: his family and he's stepping back for this one. Apparently
- 19:26Speaker 1: he had been working on some sequels to Honey Shrunk
- 19:29Speaker 1: the Kid, but that fell through It was really cute
- 19:31Speaker 1: how they revealed him though. They had people in costume
- 19:34Speaker 1: combing the audience with a giant comb, which is a
- 19:37Speaker 1: bit from the original movie.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Yeah, that was very very sweet. Well, good news for
- 19:42Speaker 2: dufuses like me who shell out for YouTube Premium, because
- 19:46Speaker 2: starting in early twenty twenty seven, Peacock will be bundled
- 19:49Speaker 2: in with YouTube Premium and that means smokes like me
- 19:51Speaker 2: will be able to cancel a Peacock subscription and still
- 19:55Speaker 2: have full access to the library. This comes as Comcast
- 19:58Speaker 2: announced that for the first time in six years, Peacock
- 20:01Speaker 2: turned a profit. That's a big deal for streaming.
- 20:04Speaker 1: Service for sure. Well, from Juphis's to Dormouse Mouse's, we
- 20:11Speaker 1: are getting an animated Mad Hatter movie from Clerk's producer
- 20:15Speaker 1: and actor Scott Mosier. He's working with Anna Venture to
- 20:22Speaker 1: do it, that's all I know. But it could be
- 20:26Speaker 1: a lot of fun Mad Hatter as in like Alison Wonder.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. Well, back in nineteen eighty six, little
- 20:33Speaker 2: Jonathan's mind was blown when you watch Transformers, the movie,
- 20:37Speaker 2: which was an animated monstrosity that spent zero time killing
- 20:41Speaker 2: off pivotal characters and introducing new ones. Because that sells twice. Also,
- 20:45Speaker 2: it had weird al yankovics Dare to Be Stupid on
- 20:47Speaker 2: the soundtrack. But we're getting a re release of the
- 20:50Speaker 2: film on September seventeenth, with a four K resolution updue
- 20:55Speaker 2: and new material added to the film Autobots rollout.
- 21:01Speaker 1: Something that likely will not be rolling out is a
- 21:04Speaker 1: sequel to The Dungeons and Dragons Honor among Thieves movie
- 21:08Speaker 1: that got really good reviews, but not enough people saw it,
- 21:12Speaker 1: and that's the whole problem. They didn't make enough of
- 21:14Speaker 1: a profit, which I don't remember. I actually looked up
- 21:18Speaker 1: the metrics recently of how much money above the making
- 21:22Speaker 1: costs they have to do to consider making a profit,
- 21:25Speaker 1: because that's not all that it costs for the movie.
- 21:27Speaker 1: Else have to pay for distribution and royalties and things
- 21:30Speaker 1: like that. But it didn't make what and marketing and marketing. Yeah,
- 21:35Speaker 1: they didn't make as much as they wanted. So to
- 21:38Speaker 1: make the sequel, which they think would be really well received,
- 21:42Speaker 1: they're going to have to figure out how to make
- 21:43Speaker 1: the movie a lot less expensive, and who knows if
- 21:45Speaker 1: they can do that. It is sad. I enjoyed the movie.
- 21:49Speaker 2: When online video was still a new thing. Actress Flicia
- 21:53Speaker 2: Day created a comedy series called The Guild. It was
- 21:56Speaker 2: about a bunch of MMO RPG players who meet up
- 21:59Speaker 2: in real way life. And now, nearly twenty years later,
- 22:03Speaker 2: Day has spearheaded a fundraising campaign to make a follow
- 22:06Speaker 2: up movie that will be called The Guild rin Faired.
- 22:10Speaker 2: They're already hit their initial goal and they're now sailing
- 22:13Speaker 2: towards stretch goals. Ariel, I hear they're going to be
- 22:16Speaker 2: looking for extras to be to populate their rin fare.
- 22:21Speaker 1: I that could be fun. I don't normally do extra
- 22:24Speaker 1: work because a lot of times for series, it can
- 22:27Speaker 1: preclude you from getting auditioning for a role if your
- 22:31Speaker 1: face is already seen. But I think they're going to
- 22:34Speaker 1: be filming in California.
- 22:36Speaker 2: So yeah, they'll be filming in California, and this is
- 22:38Speaker 2: just a movie, it's not even a series.
- 22:40Speaker 1: So fair. That's usually by the time they're looking for
- 22:43Speaker 1: extras for that, they've cast most of the things. Not always,
- 22:45Speaker 1: but usually, So maybe I'll check it out. I've wanted
- 22:48Speaker 1: to go to California outside of the airport for a bit.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Now in Jonathan give you all the canceled stuff, Yay
- 22:58Speaker 1: season two of wonder Man also has been canceled. They
- 23:01Speaker 1: announced that Wonderman was getting a second season shortly after
- 23:04Speaker 1: the first season ended, but apparently that's not the case.
- 23:08Speaker 1: Showriters have been released to pursue other projects. We know
- 23:12Speaker 1: that Disney's done a bunch of layoffs recently. No further
- 23:15Speaker 1: explanation has been given. I haven't watched Wonderman yet, but
- 23:19Speaker 1: that is said.
- 23:20Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually saw an article that published hours before
- 23:24Speaker 2: Variety revealed that Wonderman season two was not gonna happen.
- 23:29Speaker 2: That was hyping up how cool Wonderman season two was
- 23:33Speaker 2: gonna be, Like, Oh, that's sad and what terrible timing?
- 23:37Speaker 1: Well and also like, I know, we still have another
- 23:40Speaker 1: three seconds or less? What kind of like I guess
- 23:44Speaker 1: that's just a hopeful speculative peace because apparently the writer
- 23:47Speaker 1: room's never opened, like they never started.
- 23:50Speaker 2: I think I think there was like a pitch, like
- 23:53Speaker 2: an idea of what could happen in season two. This
- 23:56Speaker 2: is but you know, there's so many fan blogs and
- 24:00Speaker 2: fan sites out there that are ninety five percent speculation,
- 24:05Speaker 2: you know, yeah, and five percent actual substance, So this
- 24:08Speaker 2: could have been one of those, all right, last piece
- 24:10Speaker 2: is Deadline reports that Tomorrow Weaving is the MCUs pick
- 24:14Speaker 2: to play Emma Frost in an upcoming X Men film.
- 24:18Speaker 2: This is late breaking news that I added just before
- 24:20Speaker 2: we started recording. So that's all I know about this
- 24:23Speaker 2: because I didn't get a chance to read the full article.
- 24:26Speaker 1: Gotcha, I'm kind of past my Emma Frost days. I
- 24:29Speaker 1: was going to make a comment about, oh man, if
- 24:31Speaker 1: they were redoing that, i'd want to be here, but
- 24:32Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not in my Emma Frost era anymore.
- 24:36Speaker 2: So you played a character once who was Emma Frost
- 24:39Speaker 2: coded and your costume was very Emma Frost ish, and I.
- 24:44Speaker 1: Was also very thin and blonde at the time, so
- 24:47Speaker 1: it felt like it worked. There was also news that
- 24:50Speaker 1: James Gunn has cast Maxima for Man of Tomorrow, which
- 24:55Speaker 1: would be more my speed nowadays. But that's okay, all right.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Well, then we are going to move steadily onward to
- 25:03Speaker 2: a section that we call Yeah, I guess we could
- 25:05Speaker 2: talk about that for a little bit. In other words,
- 25:09Speaker 2: this is the stuff that doesn't really fit into our
- 25:11Speaker 2: established show set up. First off, it maybe nostalgia s geeky,
- 25:19Speaker 2: so well, see, I have no nostalgia for it, which
- 25:21Speaker 2: is why I don't think it fits because I was
- 25:23Speaker 2: not the right age when. So, there was a movie
- 25:26Speaker 2: that came out called The Sandlot. If you are of
- 25:28Speaker 2: a certain age, you are probably very familiar with this movie.
- 25:31Speaker 2: I am not. I have never seen it. It came
- 25:34Speaker 2: out at a time when I was not the right
- 25:36Speaker 2: age to watch it. But there is a series that's
- 25:40Speaker 2: coming to YouTube starting August twenty sixth called Dugout Dads
- 25:44Speaker 2: that's reuniting a bunch of actors who are now adults
- 25:48Speaker 2: who are the kids in Sandlot. And the basic premise
- 25:51Speaker 2: is one of the guys is that he's the dad
- 25:55Speaker 2: of a kid who's going into Little League and he
- 25:58Speaker 2: volunteers to coach, thinking that this is a great way
- 26:00Speaker 2: to build character and to have teamwork and to have fun,
- 26:04Speaker 2: only to find out that the other dads who are
- 26:06Speaker 2: coaches are a bit more intense.
- 26:09Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the person heading it up is Patrick Renna,
- 26:14Speaker 1: who played Ham in The Sandlot, the guy who said
- 26:18Speaker 1: you're killing me Smalls. It's got a bunch of people
- 26:23Speaker 1: who are in the Sandlot coming back to it. Like,
- 26:26Speaker 1: like you said, you already mentioned him, but it just
- 26:29Speaker 1: looks like a cast that would be really fun for
- 26:31Speaker 1: kids to interact with.
- 26:33Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And you know, it's not a sequel. It's
- 26:37Speaker 2: not like it's connected to the Sandlot. It's same actors
- 26:40Speaker 2: playing different characters, but still based around the concept, you know,
- 26:44Speaker 2: like baseball as like, yeah, the main focal point. And
- 26:49Speaker 2: it looks cute. Like the trailer just looked like a cute,
- 26:53Speaker 2: kind of family friendly comedy thing, mostly commenting on how
- 26:57Speaker 2: competitive sports parents can be.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It also Creed Bratton, isn't it who, which
- 27:05Speaker 1: I think is hilarious because he's always a lot of fun.
- 27:08Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks it looks fun. Would you is this
- 27:10Speaker 2: something that you would check out? Uh?
- 27:13Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a big baseball fan, but I did
- 27:15Speaker 1: watch stand Blot and more than that, Patrick Renna has
- 27:19Speaker 1: some really fun social media I like. I like how
- 27:24Speaker 1: his sense of humor has grown up over the years,
- 27:27Speaker 1: and so yeah, I would. I would watch this.
- 27:29Speaker 2: Awesome, I will watch this all right. The next one,
- 27:34Speaker 2: against all odds ends up being something that I want
- 27:38Speaker 2: to watch. I if you had just told me about this,
- 27:42Speaker 2: I would have said, well, there's no way in hell
- 27:44Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch that. And then I watched the trailer.
- 27:47Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, there might be a way in hell
- 27:49Speaker 2: where I watch this. I'm talking about match Box the movie,
- 27:52Speaker 2: and yes, this is a movie that is tied into
- 27:56Speaker 2: the Mattel Matchbox IPEd as a matchbox card, so barely though.
- 28:02Speaker 2: I saw some great comments on Reddit about this where
- 28:05Speaker 2: someone was like doing the Pitch movie YouTube series kind
- 28:11Speaker 2: of thing where it's like, so, so it's not tied
- 28:15Speaker 2: into Matchbox at all, then oh no, sir, we're going
- 28:18Speaker 2: to say the word matchbox about twenty times every minute.
- 28:21Speaker 2: It's oh, oh that's good. Then like that kind of thing. Yeah. Wow.
- 28:27Speaker 1: The whole premise is that these were kids that used
- 28:29Speaker 1: to play matchbox cars together, so they were childhood friends, yes,
- 28:35Speaker 1: and now spy stuff.
- 28:37Speaker 2: Well, one of the childhood friends grows up to be
- 28:40Speaker 2: John Cena, a spy or a you know, operative of
- 28:45Speaker 2: some sort, and he has this crime pinned on him,
- 28:49Speaker 2: about stealing a nuclear weapon or something like that, and
- 28:53Speaker 2: he accidentally ropes in his old you know friends from
- 28:58Speaker 2: childhood into like a espionage adventure kind of thing, and
- 29:03Speaker 2: all of them are doing their best to cope. But
- 29:06Speaker 2: they are not action stars. They're not like like superhero
- 29:11Speaker 2: spy people, and we've seen this a lot, like we talked,
- 29:15Speaker 2: I think last week about Central Intelligence has that same
- 29:17Speaker 2: kind of thing, but this is like one guy and
- 29:19Speaker 2: a group of people who are just normal folks.
- 29:22Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a great cast. I was surprised that
- 29:25Speaker 1: it made me laugh. My husband kind of looked at
- 29:27Speaker 1: me like I was insane as I was laughing at it,
- 29:29Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, yes, so maybe the humor is
- 29:31Speaker 1: more geared towards like my tween ager nephews, but I
- 29:36Speaker 1: still found it delightful.
- 29:38Speaker 2: I mean the bit where the guy is trying to
- 29:40Speaker 2: do the super cool cocking the shotgun by by like
- 29:44Speaker 2: doing the Terminator two thing where he like he he
- 29:48Speaker 2: spins it and it cocks the shotgun and then he
- 29:50Speaker 2: just drops the gun and then for a very long time,
- 29:53Speaker 2: he stares back because he's on a motorcycle, so he
- 29:56Speaker 2: stares back at the gun that he just dropped, and
- 29:58Speaker 2: like it's a long take, and I was like the
- 30:03Speaker 2: fact that you let it sit this long tells me
- 30:07Speaker 2: you get my sense of humor because I love that. Yeah,
- 30:11Speaker 2: this is coming to Apple TV on October ninth, and
- 30:14Speaker 2: I'm actually kind of sad it's not getting a theatrical
- 30:16Speaker 2: release because I would totally see this in the theater.
- 30:19Speaker 1: Same, but if it will be successful, maybe they'll get
- 30:23Speaker 1: a second one.
- 30:24Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird because, like, it takes a lot for
- 30:27Speaker 2: me to be interested in an action movie these days
- 30:29Speaker 2: because they all seem the same to me, but this
- 30:31Speaker 2: one tickled me quite a bit.
- 30:34Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and the humor was also pretty clean, which
- 30:37Speaker 1: it surprised me, and I still found it's very funny.
- 30:43Speaker 2: Yeah, same like it. I don't shy away necessarily from
- 30:51Speaker 2: edgi er humor, but I always find it refreshing when
- 30:56Speaker 2: a property can be genuinely funny without engaging and edgy.
- 31:01Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that everything needs to be like that,
- 31:03Speaker 2: but once in a while it's kind of nice.
- 31:05Speaker 1: No, it is. It is. It's a matter of application
- 31:13Speaker 1: and excessiveness, right, So I don't mind some crude humor
- 31:17Speaker 1: or some edgy humor if it's done.
- 31:19Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, we're gonna have We're gonna end this episode
- 31:22Speaker 2: telling you about the very edgy movie that I am
- 31:24Speaker 2: so looking forward to.
- 31:26Speaker 1: I also don't mind nudity under the same circumstances. It's
- 31:30Speaker 1: a lot of times when it's just excessive and gratuitous.
- 31:33Speaker 1: I'm like, it doesn't add value for me. I guess
- 31:37Speaker 1: as well.
- 31:38Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on the same page, you know, So I
- 31:40Speaker 2: feel the same way. Like, if it's if it serves
- 31:43Speaker 2: the story or it impacts a joke in a meaningful way,
- 31:47Speaker 2: I can totally buy into it. But if it's just
- 31:50Speaker 2: there so that you have you know, butts and and
- 31:54Speaker 2: boobs and such and poop and screen poop jokes, yeah,
- 31:59Speaker 2: not so much. We have two more movies to talk
- 32:02Speaker 2: about in this section, and it's weird because it's almost
- 32:05Speaker 2: like it's the same movie twice.
- 32:07Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's almost like it could have been in
- 32:09Speaker 1: the Horror Hatch Hutch.
- 32:12Speaker 2: Yeah, well there is a hatch in the Hutch. That's
- 32:15Speaker 2: the way we're gonna have to go in today.
- 32:16Speaker 1: Honestly, because I was like, gee, I'm sure glad during
- 32:19Speaker 1: my time away, I'm not going to be doing anything
- 32:21Speaker 1: high up.
- 32:23Speaker 2: Yeah. I honestly, it's the only reason I included these
- 32:27Speaker 2: two is because I was like, it's one of those
- 32:29Speaker 2: situations where you see, it's not exactly the same as
- 32:32Speaker 2: something like a deep impact in an armageddon or a
- 32:35Speaker 2: Dante's Peak and a volcano but you know, there are
- 32:38Speaker 2: times where we get two films that are similar enough
- 32:42Speaker 2: where you're like, oh, I wonder if like one studio
- 32:46Speaker 2: passed on a script and then another studio jumped on
- 32:49Speaker 2: a similar script. But the first one's called zip Wire,
- 32:53Speaker 2: where apparently the story is about a pharmaceutical researcher who
- 32:57Speaker 2: has come up with a treatment for something and then
- 33:02Speaker 2: goes on a climbing adventure. She's got a fear of heights,
- 33:05Speaker 2: but her friend is trying to help her confront and
- 33:08Speaker 2: conquer her fears, and then a whole bunch of bad
- 33:11Speaker 2: guys come after her, maybe to steal her research or
- 33:15Speaker 2: the cure, or maybe kill her so that the cure
- 33:18Speaker 2: doesn't get out. It's not really clear in the trailer,
- 33:21Speaker 2: like you certainly wouldn't would ask the question, why would
- 33:24Speaker 2: she carry research or a cure with her she's going
- 33:27Speaker 2: mountain climbing. That makes no sense, but it Yeah.
- 33:32Speaker 1: It felt like in the trailer that they didn't necessarily
- 33:35Speaker 1: think that she had it on her, but they wanted
- 33:37Speaker 1: to force the information out of her.
- 33:42Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was just trying to get away.
- 33:45Speaker 1: From them by like pushing her off a cliff that
- 33:49Speaker 1: she is locked into because if you just push her
- 33:51Speaker 1: off a cliff and she's not attached to anything, well
- 33:53Speaker 1: there goes your information.
- 33:54Speaker 2: Right, well, not getting anything out of her now.
- 33:58Speaker 1: But also they didn't get rid of the fact that
- 34:01Speaker 1: she might have it on her, which is why they
- 34:02Speaker 1: don't just cut the wire she gets stuck on to
- 34:06Speaker 1: let her fall to her death.
- 34:08Speaker 2: Yeah, so she's on a zip line and her her
- 34:12Speaker 2: carbiner is like breaking apart. It's like I watched this
- 34:17Speaker 2: so like this just feels so like designed by committee
- 34:21Speaker 2: almost right, Like it like, oh, how would we make
- 34:25Speaker 2: how would we increase tension? I know we'll have some
- 34:28Speaker 2: sort of equipment failure thing. Okay, how do we increase
- 34:31Speaker 2: tension now? Like it just it felt very like calculated
- 34:36Speaker 2: in a way that didn't make it feel like a
- 34:38Speaker 2: natural progression for a story. Again, this is from a trailer,
- 34:41Speaker 2: so it could just be the trailer is a bad representation.
- 34:44Speaker 2: But this comes out August thirty first on digital. The
- 34:49Speaker 2: other movie we have is Fall to Dead Point. This
- 34:53Speaker 2: is a sequel to the twenty twenty two movie Fall,
- 34:55Speaker 2: which was about two young women who climb a really
- 34:58Speaker 2: tall radio tower and then they get stranded up there
- 35:01Speaker 2: when the ladder that they climbed has broken away.
- 35:04Speaker 1: Yeah, and they die.
- 35:06Speaker 2: One of them does spoiler, one of them does thee. Yeah. Well,
- 35:11Speaker 2: twenty twenty two not that old.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Four years old.
- 35:15Speaker 2: I think I got stuff. I got stuff in my
- 35:16Speaker 2: fridge that's older than that. I should eat that or
- 35:23Speaker 2: throw or throw it away or throw it over. Well,
- 35:25Speaker 2: that's a wasteful This comes out September second. Yeah, so
- 35:30Speaker 2: this this Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't even say what
- 35:32Speaker 2: Fall two is about. So it's about it's kind of similar.
- 35:35Speaker 2: It's about uh, a woman whose best friend takes her
- 35:40Speaker 2: to go to Thailand. There are to take the plank
- 35:44Speaker 2: walk on Mount Kwan, which is a very narrow like
- 35:50Speaker 2: it's made mostly of planks on the side of a mountains,
- 35:53Speaker 2: very narrow, very treacherous. You know, you have to like
- 35:56Speaker 2: uh uh latch in using your your horn on along
- 36:01Speaker 2: a line to help secure you as you are going
- 36:04Speaker 2: down this way. But then there's like a landslide. It
- 36:07Speaker 2: breaks off the path and separates them from their guide.
- 36:10Speaker 2: I think separates them permanently. Based upon the trailer, I
- 36:14Speaker 2: think the guide is no longer guiding anyone except maybe
- 36:18Speaker 2: in Hadestown. And so it's another one of those where
- 36:23Speaker 2: it's like, you know, people up against impossible situations in
- 36:28Speaker 2: a very perilous position, and it feels in some ways
- 36:35Speaker 2: very similar to what we saw with Ziplier. This comes
- 36:38Speaker 2: out September. Second. Also, I learned that there are plans
- 36:42Speaker 2: for a third movie in which characters who were seen
- 36:45Speaker 2: in the first two movies are involved. And I'm like,
- 36:49Speaker 2: you're going to make a Fall three and you're going
- 36:51Speaker 2: to have two people who are involved in these terrible
- 36:54Speaker 2: situations find themselves in another one together.
- 36:58Speaker 1: They need to call it three Fall.
- 37:01Speaker 2: Yes, they do. You are correct. Did anything of either
- 37:06Speaker 2: of these trailers appeal to you?
- 37:09Speaker 1: As so as a person who doesn't like heights because
- 37:14Speaker 1: I broke my arm tripping and falling from a very
- 37:17Speaker 1: short height, and who also used to kind of be
- 37:22Speaker 1: pressured and well, I used to rock climate. I enjoyed that,
- 37:25Speaker 1: but I used to be pressured to do like repelling. No,
- 37:31Speaker 1: these don't appeal to me. I do think that Zip
- 37:33Speaker 1: Wire might be have a little bit more of a
- 37:37Speaker 1: interesting story. I mean, formulaic for sure, but it's just
- 37:43Speaker 1: more interesting to me that there. It's not somebody who
- 37:46Speaker 1: wanted to thrill and just got stuck and is now
- 37:48Speaker 1: fighting for their life. There's something beyond that.
- 37:51Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an external threat beyond just the environment. Yeah yeah, yeah,
- 37:56Speaker 2: as far as I can tell, and fall too. That's
- 37:58Speaker 2: not like there's a band of you know, bandits or
- 38:01Speaker 2: something that are hot on her trail and she's trying
- 38:04Speaker 2: to walk these planks. Yeah, I I this is not
- 38:09Speaker 2: my kind of Like when I was saying, there are
- 38:10Speaker 2: action movies and even horror movies, if you will, that
- 38:15Speaker 2: have to struggle to get my attention. These are the
- 38:17Speaker 2: kind of movies I'm talking about. They don't they don't
- 38:21Speaker 2: have enough going for them. And I'm like you in that.
- 38:26Speaker 2: I don't think of myself as not liking heights, but
- 38:28Speaker 2: I definitely get that swimmy feeling if I ever watch
- 38:32Speaker 2: a video where it's someone on her like especially they're
- 38:34Speaker 2: using like a wide angle lens and they're the really
- 38:37Speaker 2: tall height, like on top of one of those radio towers.
- 38:40Speaker 2: That just gives me all the willies, Like I'm like, no,
- 38:43Speaker 2: I need. I know, I'm sitting on my couch and
- 38:45Speaker 2: I'm just looking at this through a computer screen, but
- 38:47Speaker 2: I have the sensation that I'm there and I want off.
- 38:51Speaker 1: I think I think part of mine comes from the
- 38:56Speaker 1: six Flags. They used to have that looping starship in Georgia. Yeah,
- 39:01Speaker 1: and when my parents first talked me into going on it,
- 39:04Speaker 1: I was a skinny little like I was. I've never
- 39:07Speaker 1: been tiny because I came out of my mom looking
- 39:12Speaker 1: like a very long alien. I'm sure, but uh, but
- 39:16Speaker 1: like I was small, and so those seat belts I
- 39:19Speaker 1: definitely got, like the hang when the looping starship was
- 39:22Speaker 1: completely upside down where I wasn't touching the seat and
- 39:24Speaker 1: I needed that. Yeah, And then like roller coasters were
- 39:29Speaker 1: the same way, and it just kind of compounded. I
- 39:31Speaker 1: like roller coasters now, but I yeah, I just don't.
- 39:36Speaker 1: I don't mind heights if I feel secure, and sometimes
- 39:40Speaker 1: I like with rock climbing, I can feel secure, I
- 39:42Speaker 1: know who's blaying me, there's a bit more there, and
- 39:45Speaker 1: then these movies kind of mess.
- 39:46Speaker 2: It all up, so totally I get it. I kind
- 39:50Speaker 2: of feel the same way about ocean movies whenever there's
- 39:53Speaker 2: like threats in the ocean, and because like I love
- 39:57Speaker 2: the ocean, I love swimming, I love snorkeling, I love
- 40:00Speaker 2: all that stuff. But you know, there is something intimidating
- 40:04Speaker 2: when you're in a depth where you can't like see
- 40:06Speaker 2: the bottom of the ocean, and you know there's stuff there,
- 40:09Speaker 2: you just don't know what it is. So stuff like
- 40:12Speaker 2: that will mess me up too, And I'm like, I
- 40:13Speaker 2: should not probably shouldn't watch too much of this stuff
- 40:17Speaker 2: in case it makes me start to fear one of
- 40:19Speaker 2: the things I take great joy in.
- 40:22Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, like I should not have watched the snorkeling
- 40:26Speaker 1: in Japan videos and learned about the box fish there
- 40:30Speaker 1: because box jellyfish, because I love snorkeling.
- 40:34Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you'll need to be on the lookout for
- 40:38Speaker 2: things like lionfish where you'll be and triggerfish. Oh yeah,
- 40:43Speaker 2: I've never had an issue with them, but.
- 40:46Speaker 1: I haven't either. My understanding is most of the time
- 40:48Speaker 1: they just kind of try to scare you away from
- 40:50Speaker 1: their nests during mating season. Triggerfish are the ones with
- 40:53Speaker 1: kind of like the human like teeth and they'll bite
- 40:55Speaker 1: you if it's mating season and they're protecting their nest
- 40:58Speaker 1: and they feel like you're a threat, but you can
- 41:02Speaker 1: usually just sweit it. Like their area of protection kind
- 41:06Speaker 1: of goes up in a comb. So my understanding cone
- 41:08Speaker 1: So my understanding is that you can just swim out
- 41:09Speaker 1: of it. I'm not so worried. I did buy safe
- 41:16Speaker 1: sea sunscreen, which is a little thicker. It kind of
- 41:19Speaker 1: coats your skin and makes it slippery. Because while while
- 41:23Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily afraid of running into a box jellyfish,
- 41:26Speaker 1: although it would really suck if I did, even though
- 41:28Speaker 1: they're not deadly up here, you know, they're exceedingly painful
- 41:34Speaker 1: and can scar you. But like when I had the
- 41:38Speaker 1: great great fortune to snorkel in Fiji, it was sea
- 41:41Speaker 1: lice season, which are like not actually lice, their little
- 41:44Speaker 1: baby jellyfish, and I just I welt it up from it.
- 41:48Speaker 1: Like it wasn't a bad allergic reaction, but it was
- 41:50Speaker 1: enough of reaction that, like, I was miserable for a
- 41:53Speaker 1: half a day. And I've been stung by jellyfish before.
- 41:57Speaker 2: So I have been fortunate to not have been stung
- 42:02Speaker 2: by jellyfish. The most the worst injury I've had ocean related,
- 42:09Speaker 2: as far as I can remember, is when I was
- 42:11Speaker 2: bending over to pick up a hermit crab and I
- 42:14Speaker 2: ended up not realizing that my hand was actually picking
- 42:16Speaker 2: up a different kind of crab, and it pinched the
- 42:20Speaker 2: holy heck out of me. It was more surprising than painful.
- 42:25Speaker 2: I mean, it hurt, but it wasn't like excruciating or anything.
- 42:28Speaker 2: I remember drinking my hand and then seeing a crab
- 42:32Speaker 2: frisbee away off into the distance and land like fifty
- 42:36Speaker 2: feet away from me in the ocean, and I felt
- 42:38Speaker 2: then I felt guilty because I was like, I'm the
- 42:41Speaker 2: interloper here.
- 42:43Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, now, my jellyfish stings have never been like bad, right,
- 42:47Speaker 1: They've been moderate and painful, uncomfortable, but not unbearable. Like
- 42:52Speaker 1: there are some jellyfish like a Portuguese man of war
- 42:55Speaker 1: or box jellyfish that which are I guess not technically
- 42:58Speaker 1: either of them are technically not actually jellyfish that are unbearable.
- 43:04Speaker 1: But like, also, if I get into a bunch of sargasm,
- 43:07Speaker 1: which also houses tiny little baby jellyfish, I itch up,
- 43:11Speaker 1: and that's really uncomfortable and I don't want to deal
- 43:13Speaker 1: with that. So we're gonna try this new thing. So, yeah,
- 43:15Speaker 1: I had to stop watching ocean videos unless it's the
- 43:17Speaker 1: Nautilus deep dives, where I know I'm not going to reach.
- 43:20Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, even their best free dive, is I going
- 43:23Speaker 2: to take it down that low? Yeah? All right, Well,
- 43:26Speaker 2: now that we've talked about things that make us uncomfortable.
- 43:28Speaker 2: Let's get real cozy and open up the hatch to
- 43:33Speaker 2: the horror hutch, and I'm just gonna I'm just gonna
- 43:36Speaker 2: lower you in.
- 43:37Speaker 3: Now.
- 43:38Speaker 2: I know you can't see the bottom, but that's just
- 43:41Speaker 2: because it's really dark and it's very far away.
- 43:43Speaker 1: But I'm going to lower you downers, isn't it.
- 43:46Speaker 2: No, But the rope I'm lowering you on is so.
- 43:50Speaker 1: Uh just oh gosh.
- 43:52Speaker 2: I'm just gonna don't worry, don't worry, don't move so much.
- 43:55Speaker 2: It's it's afraid rope. It's not gonna hold it.
- 43:58Speaker 1: It's afraid of me. I'm afraid of it.
- 44:01Speaker 2: Well that's probably healthy, all right. And now you're down
- 44:07Speaker 2: on the bottom of the horror hutch. Okay, I'll be
- 44:09Speaker 2: right there. I'm going to take the elevator. I'll see
- 44:11Speaker 2: in a second.
- 44:12Speaker 1: If I used expletives on the show, I would use
- 44:15Speaker 1: them at you right now.
- 44:16Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's a little slow elevator. But now we're
- 44:18Speaker 2: both down here in the bottom of John Boy's horror hutch.
- 44:21Speaker 2: Now the question remains, did you watch any of the
- 44:24Speaker 2: three trailers that I included in the Horror Hutch this week.
- 44:26Speaker 2: I did all three. I did.
- 44:31Speaker 1: I regret some of them.
- 44:32Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think any of these are well it
- 44:35Speaker 2: the Cycle is probably the heart the cycle.
- 44:37Speaker 1: I regretted. The Cycle is the one I regret it.
- 44:39Speaker 1: The other two were fine.
- 44:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see. Well, let's start off with it ends,
- 44:45Speaker 2: which I would say is it's kind of a back
- 44:47Speaker 2: room style horror movie. Also, this is one that has
- 44:50Speaker 2: been out for like a year. It was out for
- 44:52Speaker 2: digital rental for like starting at the beginning of this year,
- 44:56Speaker 2: but or maybe even late last year. But it's getting
- 44:59Speaker 2: a theatrical least now on August twenty first. And my
- 45:02Speaker 2: guess is the reason it's getting at theatrical release is
- 45:05Speaker 2: because back Rooms and Obsession did so well in the theaters.
- 45:08Speaker 1: I was going to say the exact same thing about
- 45:11Speaker 1: it being like back Rooms.
- 45:12Speaker 2: Yeah, So, can you explain a little bit of what
- 45:15Speaker 2: the trailer shows.
- 45:16Speaker 1: Yeah, it's these young adults who go on a road
- 45:19Speaker 1: trip and they turn on to a back road and
- 45:24Speaker 1: they can never get off. It's kind of similar to
- 45:26Speaker 1: like the concept of the TV show from Yeah.
- 45:30Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think also there's another work called No
- 45:35Speaker 2: Exit that's very similar as well. So yeah, they are
- 45:39Speaker 2: stuck on this road and if they get out of
- 45:42Speaker 2: the car for like a minute and a half, people
- 45:46Speaker 2: just start to swarm from out of the woods, start
- 45:49Speaker 2: to swarm toward them, and then they are convinced they
- 45:52Speaker 2: need to keep going. So I actually read the plot synopsis,
- 45:55Speaker 2: because again, since this has been out for a while,
- 45:57Speaker 2: there's actually a full synopsis of the plot that exists
- 46:01Speaker 2: out there, and it sounds intriguing to me. I don't know, like,
- 46:04Speaker 2: I don't think this is something where I would feel
- 46:06Speaker 2: the need to see it in the theater. I do
- 46:08Speaker 2: understand the desire to try and capitalize on the popularity
- 46:13Speaker 2: of things like back rooms and obsession. It does sound
- 46:16Speaker 2: to me like it's decent, Like it doesn't sound like
- 46:18Speaker 2: it's bad at all, so maybe it'll do well in
- 46:21Speaker 2: the theater. I'm all for more independent horror, getting you know,
- 46:26Speaker 2: more attention, and getting some more love, because when it's good,
- 46:31Speaker 2: it's really good. But obviously, like everything you know, it
- 46:36Speaker 2: comes in different different levels of goodness. But this one
- 46:41Speaker 2: I thought was interesting. I still don't think I'm going
- 46:43Speaker 2: to see it in the theater, though, I'd probably just
- 46:45Speaker 2: read it digitally and watch it at home. It doesn't
- 46:47Speaker 2: feel like it's the kind of thing that would require
- 46:51Speaker 2: a cinematic experience to me.
- 46:53Speaker 1: I agree. I agree.
- 46:56Speaker 2: Next, we've got a trailer for the care mini series.
- 47:01Speaker 2: This is Carrie by Stephen King. Mike Flanagan is the
- 47:06Speaker 2: guy in charge of this adaptation. Summer h Howell plays
- 47:10Speaker 2: Carrie White. There are eight episodes that are coming out
- 47:14Speaker 2: on Amazon on October seventh. All eight will be available
- 47:17Speaker 2: on that day. I have to say, so I love
- 47:21Speaker 2: this trailer. Like I'm not a huge Carry fan, Like
- 47:24Speaker 2: I think it's fine, but it's never been one of
- 47:26Speaker 2: my go to Stephen King properties, either the movie or
- 47:29Speaker 2: the book. But this trailer, I felt, really really builds
- 47:35Speaker 2: your sympathy for Carrie, like it's heartbreaking.
- 47:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I've never been a huge Carry fan, honestly,
- 47:43Speaker 1: I kind of although I kind of feel like zip
- 47:45Speaker 1: Wire and Fall two are both scarier than it ends
- 47:47Speaker 1: in Carrie as far as like bringing terror to my soul.
- 47:53Speaker 1: But but yeah, it makes a very If you had
- 47:57Speaker 1: asked me could they make it? Could they or should
- 47:59Speaker 1: they make a TV show about that story, I'd be like,
- 48:02Speaker 1: there's not enough there. But it really looks like they've
- 48:04Speaker 1: thought it through and done a good job of bringing
- 48:06Speaker 1: us through her journey. It's kind of like if Me
- 48:10Speaker 1: and Girls wasn't funny.
- 48:12Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's the it's the framing of Carrie as
- 48:16Speaker 2: not just being hurt and being bullied, but outwardly questioning
- 48:21Speaker 2: why anyone would do that, Like why would you do that?
- 48:24Speaker 2: Like you could have it would have taken you just
- 48:26Speaker 2: as much effort to be my friend as it took
- 48:29Speaker 2: you to do this, So why And I'm like, I
- 48:33Speaker 2: feel like Carrie, I understand that perspective so much because
- 48:39Speaker 2: I've felt the same way in my life in the past.
- 48:42Speaker 2: So watching this, I was just like, oh, man, I'm
- 48:44Speaker 2: identifying with the character of a teenage girl, a high
- 48:47Speaker 2: school teenage girl so hard, because I've often questioned, like,
- 48:51Speaker 2: why go to the effort of being awful to someone
- 48:55Speaker 2: when for the same amount of effort you could be
- 48:58Speaker 2: their friend? And Yeah, if the per since awful, I
- 49:00Speaker 2: get it. But Carrie's demonstrably not awful. She gets a
- 49:05Speaker 2: little awful, but that's because she's been abused so much.
- 49:09Speaker 1: Yeah, which is not necessarily okay, but it is understandable.
- 49:14Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Well, and you know it's tied in with
- 49:17Speaker 2: the whole concept of telekinesis. You know, Carrie has developed
- 49:20Speaker 2: these telekinetic abilities that are you would argue, not fully
- 49:25Speaker 2: under her control. They're tied to her emotional state. So
- 49:28Speaker 2: when she's in a heightened emotional state, then her power
- 49:30Speaker 2: is kind of manifest. So you know, it's I've never
- 49:36Speaker 2: thought that deeply about the story Carrie, even though I
- 49:39Speaker 2: think Stephen King laid some good groundwork, I just feel
- 49:42Speaker 2: Mike Flanagain is very good at picking out the things
- 49:47Speaker 2: that are the most human of these stories and then
- 49:50Speaker 2: shining a spotlight on it.
- 49:52Speaker 1: I agree fully from what I understand. I haven't watched it,
- 49:56Speaker 1: but like Haunting of Hill House, to my understanding, is
- 50:00Speaker 1: just yeah, it's a scary ghost story, but it's more
- 50:03Speaker 1: about the people and the emotions and their journey, and
- 50:06Speaker 1: that's really cool to me.
- 50:08Speaker 2: It's so good, Ariel, It's on my list. It is scary,
- 50:12Speaker 2: I'll tell you, it's scary and creepy and heart wrenching.
- 50:18Speaker 2: I loved that series. There's some people I know who
- 50:21Speaker 2: liked Midnight Mass more, and I think Midnight Mass is
- 50:24Speaker 2: a masterpiece as well. But Haunting on Hillhouse Man, that
- 50:28Speaker 2: was just something special for me.
- 50:30Speaker 1: It's it's on my list. I just have to be
- 50:32Speaker 1: in a place where I can watch something scary, which
- 50:34Speaker 1: I've happens more often nowadaysh And like I wanted to
- 50:39Speaker 1: watch The Fall of the House of Usher, but I
- 50:41Speaker 1: didn't see that one yet.
- 50:43Speaker 2: That one gets a bit more campy. It's not bad
- 50:47Speaker 2: like it's and it's grizzly, like as an egg all
- 50:51Speaker 2: and poe adaptation typically is it's grizzly, but it's like
- 50:55Speaker 2: the characters are more over the top. And that one
- 51:00Speaker 2: like they are a little more like a caricature than
- 51:04Speaker 2: a and it's not the fall of the actors at all.
- 51:06Speaker 2: It's like purposefully done to be kind of like archetypes. Right,
- 51:11Speaker 2: So that one was less effective to me than the
- 51:14Speaker 2: Haunting on Hillhouse, but of Hillhouse rather but the but
- 51:17Speaker 2: it was still an entertaining series weird adaptation of Poe's
- 51:23Speaker 2: work though. Well then finally we have the one that
- 51:27Speaker 2: that was the most disturbing for you out of the
- 51:29Speaker 2: horror Hutch this week, and that is the cycle with
- 51:33Speaker 2: Deborah Ann Wohl, who is yea she was in She's
- 51:37Speaker 2: in the Daredevil series.
- 51:39Speaker 1: She's in the Daredevil series. She DMS a lot of
- 51:42Speaker 1: D and D and she is the voice of Crados's
- 51:46Speaker 1: wife and the new God of War video game coming
- 51:49Speaker 1: out that's focusing on her.
- 51:52Speaker 2: So yeah, that's true.
- 51:54Speaker 1: She's also the face at that point.
- 51:57Speaker 2: In this one. In this film, she's playing a woman
- 52:00Speaker 2: who is contacted by authorities who have found like the
- 52:05Speaker 2: site of a homicide and among the bodies is her father,
- 52:11Speaker 2: who has been missing for decades. So this man disappeared
- 52:15Speaker 2: from her life, like you know, essentially when she was
- 52:18Speaker 2: a kid, and has now turned up dead. And so
- 52:22Speaker 2: she is determined to try and figure out what happened,
- 52:26Speaker 2: Who's responsible, Why was her father there? Where has he
- 52:29Speaker 2: been all her life? That kind of stuff, And the
- 52:32Speaker 2: title and the trailer together suggests that these events are
- 52:35Speaker 2: some sort of repeating pattern, you know, the cycle. But
- 52:39Speaker 2: that's about all we get. We also get some pretty
- 52:42Speaker 2: gross horror imagery. Like when I say pretty gross, I
- 52:46Speaker 2: mean just gross horror imagery. In this trailer, it's gross.
- 52:50Speaker 1: Did play with creepy things in the dark as well,
- 52:53Speaker 1: which is what bothered me most.
- 52:56Speaker 2: I thought it would have been the cutting of the
- 53:00Speaker 2: cutting open of the cadaver.
- 53:03Speaker 1: I didn't like that as much, but also, like I could,
- 53:07Speaker 1: I watched the Pit, so I couldn't mark that off
- 53:09Speaker 1: as medical kind of. But no, like because I have
- 53:15Speaker 1: I have dealt with sleep paralysis in the past, usually
- 53:17Speaker 1: when I sleep on my back, so I usually sleep
- 53:19Speaker 1: on my side. Is just more comfortable anyhow. But uh yeah,
- 53:23Speaker 1: things in the dark, when you're not able to move
- 53:27Speaker 1: or address them or make sure they're real is really terrifying,
- 53:30Speaker 1: and so movies that deal with that, to me are
- 53:32Speaker 1: very terrifying, and this one apparently does. I will say,
- 53:36Speaker 1: based off the name, at first I thought it was
- 53:37Speaker 1: a movie about a menstruation, like a terrifying menstruation.
- 53:43Speaker 2: I thought, Yeah, I thought it was gonna be something
- 53:45Speaker 2: like that, like, because we've gotten a few movies that are,
- 53:48Speaker 2: you know, on similar themes, and there's nothing wrong with
- 53:51Speaker 2: having using horror to express something like, you know, something
- 53:57Speaker 2: that almost all women experience, but you know, men just
- 54:00Speaker 2: don't have any real concept about, and to like put
- 54:04Speaker 2: that in the context of a horror film is a
- 54:07Speaker 2: way to kind of get people to understand. Uh. So
- 54:10Speaker 2: it wouldn't have surprised me because I thought the same
- 54:12Speaker 2: thing you did. I thought this is gonna be like
- 54:14Speaker 2: some sort of dark comedy horror. Yeah, that's that. You know,
- 54:19Speaker 2: it's gonna be an effective horror movie, but it's gonna
- 54:21Speaker 2: be almost like, you know, comedy as well. And then
- 54:24Speaker 2: I watched it like, oh wow, I was not even
- 54:27Speaker 2: a little bit correct.
- 54:28Speaker 1: Or maybe it would be like the Asylum movies doing
- 54:31Speaker 1: a spoof off of Carry or something.
- 54:34Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no there, yeah, menstruation has a has
- 54:38Speaker 2: an element in Carry as well. That is true. All right, Well,
- 54:43Speaker 2: it's time for us to get out. So here's your rope.
- 54:46Speaker 2: I'm just gonna pop in the elevator here.
- 54:48Speaker 1: And am I just coming in close. Don't close the door.
- 54:52Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, I was trying to push the door open button,
- 54:55Speaker 2: but I guess I must have hit the door closed button.
- 54:59Speaker 2: You're taking a lot long time climbing that rope.
- 55:02Speaker 1: I'll get out there eventually.
- 55:04Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, Well, while you're doing that, I'm just gonna
- 55:07Speaker 2: mention that we're moving on to our show notes now.
- 55:10Speaker 2: And we cut a few things, like there were a
- 55:12Speaker 2: couple of horror movies that I cut. There was an
- 55:13Speaker 2: attack of the Killer Tomatoes movie that is coming out,
- 55:18Speaker 2: which you're really more of a comedy movie than a
- 55:20Speaker 2: horror movie. But it had some gross stuff in it too,
- 55:22Speaker 2: So if you if you're into those like campy horror comedies,
- 55:26Speaker 2: you should check out that trailer. There are a couple
- 55:28Speaker 2: of others too. Oh here she is, Hey here.
- 55:31Speaker 1: Yeah, I brought the Margarita machine with me. I thought
- 55:33Speaker 1: you might like it.
- 55:33Speaker 2: I saw that, Yeah, I did. I'm amazed the rope
- 55:36Speaker 2: was able to support its weight, because that was worth
- 55:40Speaker 2: the risk, a diesel powered Margarita machine. No, it's not
- 55:46Speaker 2: your fault, it's you know, it's just Fridays Man, all right.
- 55:51Speaker 2: First up in our show notes, we have another trailer
- 55:55Speaker 2: for Lanterns. And we've talked about Lanterns a couple of times,
- 55:57Speaker 2: so we don't need to make this too long. But
- 55:59Speaker 2: there were a few things in this trailer that we
- 56:01Speaker 2: had not yet seen. And what did you think of it?
- 56:04Speaker 1: I loved it. Like the first, each trailer they give
- 56:09Speaker 1: us a little bit more about, like the actual Green
- 56:11Speaker 1: Lantern powers and stories, because the first trailer had little
- 56:15Speaker 1: to know like Green Lantern ring ring stuff. So I
- 56:23Speaker 1: like it. I feel like they're doing a really good
- 56:24Speaker 1: job of blending the drama and the suspense with the humor.
- 56:29Speaker 1: I feel like the trailers feel very balanced to me.
- 56:32Speaker 2: As well as as well as balancing the comic book lore,
- 56:35Speaker 2: Like that's interesting that they're being really like methodical with
- 56:39Speaker 2: that as well.
- 56:40Speaker 1: Yeah, and the fact that I don't feel like I've
- 56:43Speaker 1: been shown the whole series or what's going to happen
- 56:45Speaker 1: is fantastic, Like they keep revealing more, but it's not
- 56:48Speaker 1: like it doesn't feel like spoilers to me.
- 56:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 56:51Speaker 1: And then I also think the special effects look really good,
- 56:54Speaker 1: Like it's not horribly campy and unbelievable. I am so
- 56:58Speaker 1: excited for this show. What about You?
- 57:00Speaker 2: It's it's not it's not looking like something like No Shade,
- 57:04Speaker 2: but like a CW superhero show where where you can
- 57:08Speaker 2: be like really invested in the performances and everything. But
- 57:11Speaker 2: there's no denying that the effects are, you know, a
- 57:14Speaker 2: noticeable step down from something you might see in a
- 57:18Speaker 2: typical DC or Marvel movie. I liked it too. I
- 57:21Speaker 2: liked that we got to mention a man Hunters. That
- 57:24Speaker 2: was kind of cool.
- 57:26Speaker 1: I was I was all in that.
- 57:27Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't expect that at all. No, So
- 57:31Speaker 2: hearing Manhunters, I'm like, oh my gosh, is the Martian
- 57:34Speaker 2: Manhunter going to show up in this. Uh, we got
- 57:37Speaker 2: a we got a quick look at Sinestro, which again
- 57:39Speaker 2: I did not think we're going to see before the
- 57:41Speaker 2: series actually started. And we got an actual look at
- 57:45Speaker 2: Guy Gardner, like we've heard his voice a couple of
- 57:47Speaker 2: times in earlier trailers, but this time we get to
- 57:49Speaker 2: see that beautyful, beautiful bowl cut staring down the barrel
- 57:54Speaker 2: of the camera. This comes out on August sixteenth on
- 57:59Speaker 2: HBO and MAT that runs through October fourth. And this, this,
- 58:05Speaker 2: I think, and Peacemaker are the two live action DC
- 58:09Speaker 2: series that really have kind of kind of got my attention.
- 58:15Speaker 2: Which is funny because neither of the I've never been
- 58:17Speaker 2: a Green Lantern fan. I don't hate them, just wasn't
- 58:20Speaker 2: like my jam and I wasn't even aware of who
- 58:24Speaker 2: Peacemaker was before the Suicide Squad. So the fact that
- 58:29Speaker 2: you know that James Gunn is really good at picking
- 58:32Speaker 2: stuff that I normally wouldn't be interested in and then
- 58:35Speaker 2: making me interested in it. He did it for Marvel
- 58:37Speaker 2: and he's doing it for DC. That's great.
- 58:40Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think part of it is well,
- 58:42Speaker 1: at least for Peacemaker, it's not as well known of
- 58:45Speaker 1: a character.
- 58:45Speaker 2: So there's a lot more I guess freedom.
- 58:49Speaker 1: Freedom, maybe not. There are people who know the character
- 58:52Speaker 1: those characters, and so for them, I guess not, but
- 58:55Speaker 1: it feels like it to me, which makes it more interesting.
- 58:59Speaker 2: Yeah. I am such a casual comic book fan that,
- 59:06Speaker 2: generally speaking, like even an adaptation of an arc, I'm
- 59:09Speaker 2: probably not gonna be following it along that closely. And
- 59:12Speaker 2: that I mean, I'm not gonna know where it's gonna
- 59:14Speaker 2: go because I haven't read so many comics. But when
- 59:18Speaker 2: you're talking about characters that I'm not even really that
- 59:20Speaker 2: familiar with, so I don't even know what their strengths
- 59:22Speaker 2: and weaknesses are, You've got so much room to play.
- 59:25Speaker 2: And you know, obviously you always run the risk of
- 59:28Speaker 2: ticking off the super obsessive fan boys out there. Yeah,
- 59:33Speaker 2: but they're never gonna be happy anyway.
- 59:35Speaker 1: So yeah, that is true. That is true. But I
- 59:38Speaker 1: am happy. I can't wait. I mean, I also love
- 59:40Speaker 1: the casting. I yeah, I'm just I'm super for it.
- 59:44Speaker 1: I'm super for it. I like John Stewart as a
- 59:46Speaker 1: character from the Justice League Unlimited and the cartoons and
- 59:50Speaker 1: stuff like that too, So yeah.
- 59:53Speaker 2: Yeah, and he seems like he's playing like someone who
- 59:55Speaker 2: wants to be a stand up guy, and he's kind
- 59:57Speaker 2: of exasperated by hal Jordan's behavior.
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: I just can't wait.
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: Yeah, one have to wait much longer, just a couple
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: of weeks. Then we got a trailer. This came out
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: during Comic Con for a documentary called That Polish Guy,
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: which is about a comic book artist named Bill Sinkowitz
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: who did artwork for titles like Moonnight and Electra Assassin,
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: as well as others. Documentary mostly is like other people
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: talking about how great this artist is and how like
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: influential he is. I again not being the biggest nerd
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: in comics. If you were to name influential artists and writers,
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: unless the name is something like Frank Miller or Alan Moore,
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: I'm probably not going to know who you're talking about.
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: But it's very clear from the people who are talking
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: in this trailer that this guy's work in particular was
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: extremely influential.
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: Well in the bits of the art, because I also
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: I am not super familiar with him, but the bits
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: of his art, they are his artwork that they show.
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: I have seen some of it, never enough to be like, oh,
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: I need to follow this artist but it's very good.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: I really like it, and it's interesting to me because
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: he does talk about his journey in it's it is
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: not like biopic about somebody who has passed away or
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: is no longer doing it, Like he's active in this storytelling,
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: which is interesting to me.
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think the Electra Assassin stuff was artwork
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: that I had definitely seen before. But yeah, so don't
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: have a release date yet. Apparently this is still in
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: post production, but it is supposed to come out before
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: the end of the year, I believe. So if you
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: are into comic books and you want to learn more
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: about this artist and the influences that worked on him,
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: as well as who he has in turn influenced, keep
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: an eye out.
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: Speaking of influencing other things, we got a trailer for Neuromancer,
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: which is kind of like the sci fi that in
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: spe hired so many other sci fis.
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: Yeah, to a point where if you were unfamiliar with
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: Neuromancer and you didn't know that that the original book
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: came out in the mid eighties, like nineteen eighty four,
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: you might be like, oh, this is so derivative because
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: it's doing all these things like you'd see in games
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: like what Shadow Run. Shadow Run was the game I
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: was thinking of, or cyberpunk, you know, video games like Cyberpunk.
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: Or Matrix like Blade Runner, Yeah, or.
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: Neil Stevenson's books, or even things like Ready Player one
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: when you get far enough up, or Matrix, the Matrix
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: movies another one, like all these things. You know, you'd
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: be like, wow, this is so derivative, Like no, no,
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: this is the thing that all those things drew from. Yeah,
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: Because it came out in nineteen eighty four. William Gibson
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: wrote it, and he also wrote some short stories before
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: this that had some of these same ideas, like this
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: whole concept of like cyberspace and jacking in so you're
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: projecting your consciousness into a computer. The story of Neuromancer
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: is kind of a heist story where you have a
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: hacker who teams up with like an assassin and they
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: have to do this whole heist thing that has like
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: an AI that's putting in the heist together and all
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. So it's a neat idea, and honestly,
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: this is one of those things where you're thinking, wow,
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: it took a really long time for someone to actually
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: adapt this book. Into in this case of TV series.
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: But at the same time, you might say, well, it
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: took that long to be able to do it right.
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: And it looks like it's done right. It looks beautiful
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: and interesting. Even though I've never read Neuromancer, it feels
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: derivative because I've saw all the other things first, I
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: know it's not I definitely think I want to watch
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: this one.
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: Yeah, it comes out January twenty second on Apple TV.
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: So Apple continues to like, bang out some really cool stuff.
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: You know, Dropout might be my favorite streamings right now.
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: Oh mean, that's that's fair. Amazon's got some good stuff too, and.
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: It does and there too.
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: But yeah, well the reason that Amazon is because they
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: also have Blade Runner twenty ninety nine, which is the
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: next thing on our list.
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: Oh oh well, I'm sorry I didn't follow your bunny
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: trail to the segment.
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: Didn't didn't work, didn't land that one, Jonathan, That's okay,
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: I'm just.
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: I've got senior itis today.
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: No, yeah, you're already on vacation. So yeah, we got
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: a trailer for a TV series on Amazon Prime, Blade
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: Runner twenty ninety nine that puts this one fifty years
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: in the future. From the last Blade Runner entry we got,
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: and in this the trailer we find out that, at
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: least in Los Angeles anyway, the replicants are now in
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: power and humans are now second class citizens. So the
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: status quo that existed in the previous Blade Runner movies
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: has been turned on its head.
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: Yeah, it's stars Hunter Schaeffer. I don't know if you
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: said that, because I was trying to remember what else
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: she has done.
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: I did not say that.
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it stars Hunter Schaeffer. I guess as like
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: the lone human at least, so we think, not.
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: As a human, but she's a human who's pretending to
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: be a replicant.
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: There you go, it looks fine.
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: Yeah, she's partners with Michelle Yo, who is a replicant
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: and as a blade Runner. So you have an actual
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: replicant Blade Runner and a human pretending to be a
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: replicant and kind of like the human trying her best
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: to make sure, you know, people don't find out that
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: she's human, and then everything goes wrong. Yeah, so you think,
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: let me ask you this, Are you a big Blade
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: Runner fan in general? Are you a fan of the
- 1:05:53Speaker 2: other movies?
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: I liked the original, I did like the original a lot.
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: It has been forever since I watched it. I haven't
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: watch the new one.
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: I like parts of the original. I think rutger Hower
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: is brilliant in it. I think there are sequences that
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: are fantastic. I think there are other sequences where I'm like,
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: I get that you're emulating Noir, but maybe you could
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: skip the parts of Noir where nothing happens. Yeah, and
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: we're just watching the same person walk through different rooms
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: very slowly for like ten minutes. Like, we don't need
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: this sequence. It's not adding anything. I guess it was
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: supposed to be adding tension, but I'm just like, the
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: only tension I had is when is something gonna happen? Yeah. So,
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: I like the aesthetic of the Blade Runner films, but
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: I've never I've never been one of the hugest fans
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: of the franchise. But maybe I'll check this out. Like it.
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: It looks interesting. I could give it an episode and
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: see if it resonates with me.
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: I am more interested in Neuromancer me too.
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: Yeah, what about Rings of Power season three? Did you
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: watch any of Rings of Power?
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: I watched season one. It was fine, it didn't super
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: grab me. I didn't watch season two because season one
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: didn't super grab me, and I'm kind of mad because
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: I want to Some of this stuff in the season
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: three trailer looks a little interesting, but I don't want
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: to go back and watch season two to understand it.
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: Yeah, this is going to be taking place five years
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: after the end of season two, so there is a
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: time jump. I'm confused. But the reason I'm confused is
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: because I'm a Tolkien van. I haven't been watching Rings
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: of Power, but I am a Tolkien fan, and when
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: I see the names of characters listed, I'm like, wait
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: a minute, I don't think this is the right era
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: for that character to be alive. Like I see like
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: when I see like a Duran, and I'm like, okay, wait,
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: which Duran are we talking about? Because like, there's some
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: who are in the Second Age, but there are others
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: that are in the Third Age, which is thousands of
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: years later, and Third Age is when Hobbit and Lord
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: of the Rings happen. That happens towards the end of
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: the Third Age, whereas Rings of Power is in the
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: Second Age. So that was really confusing to me. The
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: thing that I think is interesting, I don't think it's
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: enough to make me watch this like, nothing's done it
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: so far, so I don't see this doing it, but
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: I think it's interesting. As I learned that Simon Pegg
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: is voicing the bow Rog, well that.
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: Is pretty awesome. Jamie Campbell Bauer, who played Vekna in
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: Stranger Things, is also playing Celiborne.
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: So oh, Kellerborne.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: Kellerborne.
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the forger of the rings who makes all
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: the other rings for Sarn. He's tricked into doing it
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: or seduced into doing it, I guess, depending on your perspective.
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. This comes out November eleventh
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: on Amazon brime. If you are a Rings of Power fan,
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: then hopefully this will continue to entertain you. It's just
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: not for me, even though I'm a huge Tolkien fan.
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: I've got a talking tattoo for goodness sakes.
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a couple of cool moments in season one,
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: but a lot of like slow to get through stuff
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: as well. There's a really great song in season one
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: that I liked, and then a phenomenal female dwarf character
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: character called Lisa, who I love. I would just watch
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: the Desa show.
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: So yeah, it says a lot that it's a series
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: and it's taken until the third season before you actually
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: get to sour on making the ring.
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well they wanted it to be slow.
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: Now, something that I think is is very interesting, something
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: that I'm intrigued by is an adaptation of a young
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: adult novel by Tomy Adiyami called Children of Blood and Bone.
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: So we've got a film adaptation of that. I think
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: we might have mentioned this once and we got like
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: a teaser, but we got a trailer that shows us more,
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: and it shows that there's the story of a young
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: woman who is attempting to restore mat to her kingdom,
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: but the kingdom is being ruled by a class that
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: is doing its best to extinguish magic entirely.
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:10:09Speaker 3: I've never read this book, but the trailer looks fun
- 1:10:16Speaker 3: and action packed and beautiful and fantastical and I am
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: super here for it.
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: Yeah, and they apparently incorporate some mythology from West Africa
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: as well, because that was in the book. And I
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: think that's also awesome, is that we're getting some fantasy
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: beyond like the strictly European influenced fantasy like we sometimes
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: we'll get a little bit of Asian fantasy because we'll
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: get some of like the Wu Shue stuff from China
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: or maybe someone Japanese mythology. But in general, Western fantasy
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: has mostly been derived from European you know, sources, so
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: getting something from somewhere else is pretty cool. Else has
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: a truly phenomenal cast like Idris Elba, Biola Davis, Cynthia Arrivo,
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: chuwetl At Geo fours in there and many more. People
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: like it's a it's a star studded cast.
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: Yeah it look it just looks so good. I'm very
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: excited for this.
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: Me too.
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: I didn't know I was, but I am.
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: Yeah. This comes out January fifteenth, twenty twenty seven, so
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: we got a little ways to wait. But yeah, I am.
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: I am optimistic, not even cautiously optimistic. I'm looking forward
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: to this.
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: Yeah, hey there everybody. This is editor Jonathan butting into
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: the previously recorded episode. Something that neither Ariel nor I
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: saw before we recorded. This was a pretty upsetting article
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: in The Guardian talking about the author of the book
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: Children of Blood and Bone, Tomy Adiyami, and her experiences
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: in adapting this for film. It sounds like it was
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: really traumatic and she is saying she's unhappy, is just
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: not being at all fair or genuine. In fact, I'll
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: read a couple of quotes from this piece in The Guardian.
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: This was by Catherine Shored, and she quotes Adiyami as
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: saying in a TikTok that it was quote the worst
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: thing I have ever had to live through, end quote,
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: and that she left the set of the film quote
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: hyperventilating and sobbing end quote, and that quote I never
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: want to hear about this project again end quote. So
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: there's some information about things that were going on, you know,
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: disagreements she had and the anguish she felt. Apparently she
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: had a real serious falling out with one of the
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: actors in the film. I don't have the details of
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: the whole situation. I don't have the tea, and so
- 1:12:57Speaker 2: I don't wish to speculate or anything. But I did
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: want to bring this up because I think the voice
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: of the author is really important And while like the
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: trailer looked really exciting to Ariel and I, and I
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: still think the trailer looks exciting, if it's a poor
- 1:13:12Speaker 2: reflection upon the original work and the original author is
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: feeling this passionately about it. I think that's that merits attention.
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: I don't know if that should discount the other work
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: out entirely. I don't know, but I do think you
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: have to at least acknowledge it. So I wanted to
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: record this little bit to just say that we saw
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: or I saw this article after we had already recorded,
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: and I wanted to mention it in case that matters
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: to anyone out there who's considering, you know, seeing this
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: film at some point anyway. Oh one other thing I
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: will mention is between the time we recorded this and
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: when I'm recording right now, I went and saw Spider
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: Man Brand New Day, and it is my favorite of
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: the Spider Man films by far. I loved it. It
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: is fantastic. I'm not giving any spoilers away. If you
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: can go into it without seeing spoilers, I highly recommend it.
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: Just sit there and absorb it. I think it's probably
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: one of the strongest Marvel films, which is interesting because
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: it's coming from the Sony side, not the Disney side.
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: And highly highly recommend that movie. That's it. Let's get
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: back to what we talked about when we recorded earlier.
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: The next thing we have is a trailer for a
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: teaser for Riff Tracks Experiments, which is just I guess
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: Riff Tracks coming back to the movie theaters. I don't,
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: I'm not.
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: It's the It's the return of MST three k, but
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: with Mike and with Kevin Murphy playing Tom Servo and
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: Bill Corbett playing Crow. So like if you've followed Mystery
- 1:14:50Speaker 2: Science Theater three thousand over the last decade or so,
- 1:14:53Speaker 2: there's been a lot of shifts in the cast. Like
- 1:14:56Speaker 2: you had there was an era where there was a
- 1:15:00Speaker 2: you know, two different other hosts who took over and
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: other people who were voicing the robots and other people
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: who were being the villains. Felicia Day was the villain
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: in one of those seasons and so and Patton Oswaldt
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: was the son of the TV son of TV's Frank.
- 1:15:18Speaker 2: But this is going back to Mike being the host
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: and Kevin Murphy and Bill Corbette voicing the robots. Pearl
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: Forrester comes back as the antagonist the first movie. They're
- 1:15:30Speaker 2: doing four films. This was a kickstart campaign that got funded,
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: so they're doing four movies that they're riffing on. The
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: First one is Sting of Death. This one's actually getting
- 1:15:40Speaker 2: a Fathoms Events screening on September ninth and thirteenth, and
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: from what I understand, at the fourth of these, the
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: fourth film that they riff on TV's Frank and Doctor
- 1:15:56Speaker 2: Forrester will have an appearance. So it's like the first
- 1:15:59Speaker 2: time I'm in like twenty years or something.
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is very fun. I've run into Bill
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: Corvette and Kevin Murphy a couple of times. I've worked
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: a couple of their panels at Dragon Con as Tech
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: and then they were on the second Jonathan Colton cruise
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: that I went on. Just really nice. Kevin Murphy is
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: such a nice person. At least my experience with him
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: was just he was excited to be there and play
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: and have fun, and like, yeah, I liked it. I
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: liked it. I like them, so I like their work.
- 1:16:32Speaker 2: Yeah, I am not entirely familiar with everything that went
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: on behind the scenes with all the MST three K stuff.
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: I know that Joel sold off MST three K like
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: last year. I think it was where he said, you know,
- 1:16:47Speaker 2: I've done everything I can do with it. I'm ready
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: to move on do something different, and so he kind
- 1:16:52Speaker 2: of sold and walked away because like he was the
- 1:16:54Speaker 2: one behind the previous resurgence of MST three K. Yeah,
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: it's I'm very curious what the fan base thinks of
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: all this. I'm sure it's split. I'm sure there are
- 1:17:07Speaker 2: people who really loved the more recent hosts, and then
- 1:17:10Speaker 2: they're those who are like diehard fans. If they're real
- 1:17:13Speaker 2: diehard fans, then they want Trace Bulah back as Crow.
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: He's the one who played doctor Forrester. But yeah, this this,
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: like I said, September night, the thirteenth is when the
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: Fathoms event screening happens. I will say ms T three
- 1:17:30Speaker 2: K is fun, but to see it in a crowd
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: is way more fun.
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: I agree. So, and I do think, like it's not
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: that the newer casts did poorly, but I do think
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: that there's just a spark with the original folk that
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: can't be matched.
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: Yeah. Next up, we've got another mini series trailer. This
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: is for a series called Below.
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: Oh this is a series?
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it is.
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: Yeah. So not only did Jonathan's not only did Jonathan
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: not want me to go ziplining on my vacation, he
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: also doesn't want me to enjoy my snorkeling on this vacation.
- 1:18:05Speaker 2: Well, you're not going snorkeling off the coast of New England,
- 1:18:08Speaker 2: so I think it's okay, not this time, or maybe
- 1:18:12Speaker 2: maybe it's the Pacific Northwest. I don't know, but anyway,
- 1:18:14Speaker 2: it's it's clearly not tropical. No, this feels like it
- 1:18:19Speaker 2: feels like New England seaside horror, right, it does, like.
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: Very very Miskatonic dagon esque.
- 1:18:27Speaker 2: Yeah, it has very much a love crafty and kind
- 1:18:30Speaker 2: of atmospheric horror element to it. The horror is not
- 1:18:34Speaker 2: super pronounced in this trailer, like it's there, but it's
- 1:18:37Speaker 2: more like an underthing, like it's not. There's more drama
- 1:18:41Speaker 2: on top.
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, yeah, So Josh Hartnett plays I
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: guess a fisherman and a dad and then this undersea
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: creature attacks the harbor.
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: Yeah ha Yeah. It looks like like he's trying to
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: protect an increasingly outdated mode of life, like his work
- 1:19:02Speaker 2: is getting harder and harder for him to do, and
- 1:19:06Speaker 2: but he feels there's still value in it and value
- 1:19:09Speaker 2: in the community and all that kind of stuff, and
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: also obviously wants to protect his family. And meanwhile there's
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: this lurking and mysterious presence under the water. We don't
- 1:19:19Speaker 2: actually know what it is like, like the trailer doesn't
- 1:19:22Speaker 2: make it clear, like the implications that's some sort of
- 1:19:26Speaker 2: sea monster, but we don't know. It could be like
- 1:19:29Speaker 2: a shark whale. Who knows.
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: Yeah, from the one underground image they showed, I was like, oh,
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: is this just a sequel to whalefall? It looks like
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: a sperm whale. But that could have been a boat,
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: that could have been a shark, that could have been
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: some a floater. In my eye, I don't know.
- 1:19:45Speaker 2: Yeah, very very hard to tell, but interesting. This comes
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: to Netflix on October eighth, and it's kind of like
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: the way Amazon does things, like it's gonna I think
- 1:19:53Speaker 2: Netflix is dumping all six episodes on the same day,
- 1:19:56Speaker 2: So if it does sound intriguing to you, then you
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: can make a day of it, watch all six episodes.
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: I might watch us. I think I'm going to have
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: to read what it's actually about before I know if
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: I can handle it. This is what I'm going to
- 1:20:10Speaker 1: have to have spoilers for.
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: Next, we have a very fun trailer for the fifth
- 1:20:17Speaker 2: and final Jumanji movie, Jumanji Open World.
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: I have been waiting for this. I was worried for
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: a little bit that because it's been a while since
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: the last one that maybe it got shelved. This so
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: the first two movies have them going into the video game,
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: and this third one, at least at the start, has
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: the video game coming into the real world, so a
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: little bit closer to the very original Jumunji story.
- 1:20:44Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So the characters played by you know, the
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: Rock and Karen Gillen and Jack Black and Kevin Hart
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: now are in the real world, but they still act
- 1:20:57Speaker 2: and behave and move the way they're their video game
- 1:21:01Speaker 2: counterparts do. There are definitely parts where people are being
- 1:21:05Speaker 2: pulled into the game world as well and inhabit the
- 1:21:08Speaker 2: video game bodies. That is still a thing because it
- 1:21:11Speaker 2: happens in the trailer. Don't know, yes, you know where
- 1:21:14Speaker 2: in the story that happens. This comes out December twenty fifth.
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: Happy Christmas.
- 1:21:22Speaker 2: I So.
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: The first time I saw Jumanji, I did not expect
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: to the when I went to go see the first
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: of this series of Jumadji, I did not game ones. Yeah,
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: I did not expect to like it as much as
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: I did, And I loved it, and I've loved I
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: loved the second movie as well. I'm so surprised. It's
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: in that same vein as like Paddington where it shouldn't
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: be as good as it is, but it's really so
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: much fun.
- 1:21:51Speaker 2: Yeah, I have yet to watch I've seen the very
- 1:21:55Speaker 2: first Jumanji movie and that's it. The Robin Williams one, okay,
- 1:21:58Speaker 2: the only one I've ever seen. Haven't seen the Zephorah,
- 1:22:01Speaker 2: and I haven't seen the newer Jumanji movies. So uh,
- 1:22:06Speaker 2: but this trailer makes me think, like, and all the
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: trailers honestly were such where I was like, I feel
- 1:22:12Speaker 2: like I would enjoy these, I just haven't made the
- 1:22:14Speaker 2: time to watch them.
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: Yeah, Zethura was just okay because it came on the
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: heels of the original Jumunji with Robin Williams and all that.
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: It was just okay. I was never as much of
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: a fan of Zora, even though it was sci fi.
- 1:22:30Speaker 1: I stead fantasy, But I would like, I don't want
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: to oversell them to you because they are goofy, and
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: they are you know, there's a good mix of like
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: kid humor and adult humor, but the kid humor never
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: hits too much so that you're like, I'm watching a
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: kid movie that occasionally makes me laugh. Yeah, They're just
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: they're so fun. If you need to laugh, if you
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: need to feel good, I reckon I recommend them.
- 1:22:54Speaker 2: Okay, well, at some point I will have to watch. Plus, like,
- 1:22:58Speaker 2: I know all those actors can be extremely entertaining, and
- 1:23:02Speaker 2: I'm sure there are going to be moments that are
- 1:23:03Speaker 2: going to make me giggle because like, yeah, seeing people
- 1:23:07Speaker 2: just being especially the actors who are not just playing
- 1:23:11Speaker 2: goofy video game characters, but then have to play the
- 1:23:14Speaker 2: goofy video game character as if Danny DeVito were inhabiting. Yes,
- 1:23:18Speaker 2: like it just makes it more fun.
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: Honestly, when I saw this trailer, I'm like, this is
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: just these actors wanted to play and challenge themselves and
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: have acting exercises like an improv class.
- 1:23:28Speaker 2: Yeah. Or it's like it's like a super complicated Freaky Friday.
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it looks like so much And I think
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: that's part of it is it looks like it's so
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: much fun to be in and to do that that
- 1:23:40Speaker 1: just becomes infectious. Plus, anytime you put Dwayne Johnson and
- 1:23:44Speaker 1: Kevin Hart on screen together for Shenanigans, I'm in because
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: they have a really good comedic chemistry with each other.
- 1:23:51Speaker 2: And it doesn't hurt. There's like a two foot height difference. Yeah,
- 1:23:55Speaker 2: all right, Well, our last one is a movie I
- 1:24:00Speaker 2: was not anticipating. If you were to give me the
- 1:24:03Speaker 2: pitch of the movie, I would say that sounds insane.
- 1:24:07Speaker 2: But I watched this trailer and loved it so much.
- 1:24:12Speaker 2: And this is a raunchy period monster movie comedy thing
- 1:24:21Speaker 2: sex comedy, I guess.
- 1:24:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: They call it vulgar and horny in the trailer. Honestly,
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: the trailer seems a little tame for how they're selling it,
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: so I know that they're only showing like a small amount.
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: The movie we are talking about is Wicker, and the
- 1:24:37Speaker 2: premise is that it's set in some sort of fantastical setting.
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: Semi fantastical anyway, a medieval ish and Olivia Coleman plays
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: like a fishmonger who is single. She's unmarried and her
- 1:24:55Speaker 2: prospects for finding somebody are pretty slim to none, and
- 1:25:00Speaker 2: she's she's kind of pitied and gossiped about because of
- 1:25:05Speaker 2: her single status, and she gets fed up with it,
- 1:25:10Speaker 2: so she goes to meet with a mad genius played
- 1:25:15Speaker 2: by Peter Dinklage and asks him to make her a husband,
- 1:25:19Speaker 2: as in, to fashion her a husband, and he's like,
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: be at the chapel in a month, and then he
- 1:25:25Speaker 2: builds a man made of wicker who marries her and
- 1:25:31Speaker 2: turns out to be like a super sweet, supportive husband
- 1:25:35Speaker 2: who also can really really go in the sack.
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: I just splinters, spins.
- 1:25:46Speaker 3: No.
- 1:25:46Speaker 2: The the the scenes, the scenes in the trailer of
- 1:25:51Speaker 2: Olivia Coleman enjoying her husband's qualities at night times are
- 1:25:58Speaker 2: very funny. The very funny. There's there's it's raunchy, but
- 1:26:03Speaker 2: it made me laugh a lot.
- 1:26:05Speaker 1: It's raunchy. The trailer, obviously, because it's a trailer, is
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: not explicit, and they do put a lot of jokes
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: around it, which is kind of funny because they show
- 1:26:14Speaker 1: how how marriage back then was maybe like everybody was
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: pushing for it, but it was maybe not so great,
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: you know. So like it does look interesting. I'm going
- 1:26:27Speaker 1: to take them at their word that it might be
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: a little bit much for me, but it does look
- 1:26:30Speaker 1: interesting and well done and funny. I spent the entire
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: trailer going, how the heck did Alexander Scarsgard, who plays
- 1:26:39Speaker 1: the wicker Man bees Oh gosh, yeah, not the bees,
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: not the bees that uh how he moved because he's
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: covered in full body wicker prosthetics.
- 1:26:51Speaker 2: It's it's practical too, it's not cgi. Weta did the effects.
- 1:26:56Speaker 2: The same company that did the effects for Lord of
- 1:26:58Speaker 2: the Rings did the effect for this movie. And it's
- 1:27:02Speaker 2: really impressive. And yeah, like everything about this trailer made
- 1:27:08Speaker 2: me like go like what and laugh like that. I
- 1:27:13Speaker 2: was shocked and i was entertained, and so I'm very
- 1:27:18Speaker 2: much looking forward to this. This is this is shot
- 1:27:20Speaker 2: up the list of my most anticipated movies because it's
- 1:27:24Speaker 2: so unusual. Although it did make me think of a
- 1:27:26Speaker 2: couple of other things that have come out in the
- 1:27:29Speaker 2: fairly recent past, like Poor Things. Made me think about
- 1:27:32Speaker 2: that a little bit. What was the other one? I
- 1:27:34Speaker 2: said that it made me think Bride the Bride because
- 1:27:37Speaker 2: it's a Frankenstein because this this has elements of Bride
- 1:27:41Speaker 2: of Frankenstein, right, except instead of it being the Bride,
- 1:27:44Speaker 2: it's they would be the monster. Yeah, in this case,
- 1:27:47Speaker 2: a man made of wicker.
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: It is it is homunculi based.
- 1:27:51Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, it's in that it's in the homunculi arm
- 1:27:56Speaker 2: of the film Kingdom.
- 1:27:58Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's yet to be they They also say,
- 1:28:00Speaker 1: along with calling it vulgar and horning horny, that it's heartwarming,
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: surprisingly heartwarming, which I can see. I guess it's yet
- 1:28:09Speaker 1: to be told whether the Wickerman decides he wants his
- 1:28:13Speaker 1: freedom from the situation or not.
- 1:28:16Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird because I mean, it definitely seems like
- 1:28:18Speaker 2: he I don't know, it's hard to tell because the
- 1:28:21Speaker 2: trailer is. You don't get many lines from him in
- 1:28:25Speaker 2: the trailer apart from a joke about having broken the
- 1:28:29Speaker 2: bed again and that he needs to repair it. But like,
- 1:28:34Speaker 2: at least in the little brief moments, it looks like
- 1:28:37Speaker 2: he has genuine affection for Olivia Coleman's character, although it's
- 1:28:42Speaker 2: you know, a lot of the trailer is based upon
- 1:28:45Speaker 2: people's reactions to seeing him and wondering about him and
- 1:28:49Speaker 2: that kind of thing. So it's hard to You can't
- 1:28:52Speaker 2: really make a judgment here because we've seen so little,
- 1:28:54Speaker 2: but it does look like it's very well made and
- 1:28:56Speaker 2: very like a really original kind of idea, which is
- 1:29:00Speaker 2: nice to see as well. It's not like here's another
- 1:29:03Speaker 2: adaptation of a comic book or whatever.
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: I fully agree. I fully agree it looks very well done.
- 1:29:10Speaker 1: When does it come out.
- 1:29:11Speaker 2: This comes out October twenty third.
- 1:29:14Speaker 1: Nice.
- 1:29:15Speaker 2: Yeah, so if nothing else, watch the trailer for Wicker.
- 1:29:20Speaker 2: You probably don't want to do it when you're at work. No,
- 1:29:25Speaker 2: it's it's not super explicit, but it's like, you know,
- 1:29:29Speaker 2: it's not subtle in what's going on either for sure.
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: For sure, Yeah, it's I would say it's not safe
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: for work, and yeah, depending on your kids.
- 1:29:38Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, yeah, I would not. This would have been
- 1:29:41Speaker 2: if I had seen this when I was a kid,
- 1:29:43Speaker 2: I would have had a lot of questions about things.
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: I watched Barbarilla when I was very young, and I
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: didn't understand a lot of it.
- 1:29:49Speaker 2: So yeah, no, but.
- 1:29:51Speaker 1: Like I said, dependent depending depending on where your kids
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: are and how mature they are.
- 1:29:55Speaker 2: And yeah, but yeah, I think this one's like the
- 1:30:00Speaker 2: movie I didn't know I needed, and so I'm very
- 1:30:04Speaker 2: eager to see it when it comes out toward the
- 1:30:06Speaker 2: end of October.
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: I hope it looks I hope it's successful and people
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: really love it. And I hope you have loved what
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: we've talked about today, because we loved talking about it
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: and geeking out with you. We've reached the end of
- 1:30:21Speaker 1: our episode. So Jonathan, if people did love the things
- 1:30:26Speaker 1: we talked about and want to reach out to you
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: about it or maybe to like suggest that you put
- 1:30:30Speaker 1: in a sturdier rope into your horror hutch. How do
- 1:30:34Speaker 1: they reach out?
- 1:30:36Speaker 2: So you're gonna need to go hiking, and it's gonna
- 1:30:39Speaker 2: be along like a super craggy steep cliff face, and
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: you're going to find an old, some might say disused
- 1:30:49Speaker 2: zipline anchor point and a really rusty zipline descending from it.
- 1:30:57Speaker 2: You're gonna have to attach your show zipling equipment to it,
- 1:31:03Speaker 2: and your harness that doesn't quite fit right, Like it's
- 1:31:06Speaker 2: a little loose in some place, it's a little too
- 1:31:08Speaker 2: snug in other places. And there's that one strap that,
- 1:31:11Speaker 2: no matter what, you can't get it to like click
- 1:31:14Speaker 2: in properly. Don't worry about too much. You're gonna get
- 1:31:18Speaker 2: into that. You're just gonna start zooming down the zip
- 1:31:21Speaker 2: line at incredible speeds. You're gonna hear this weird twangy
- 1:31:25Speaker 2: noise kind of sounds like metal wire splitting apart, you know,
- 1:31:31Speaker 2: twang playing that kind of thing as you're going down.
- 1:31:34Speaker 2: Don't worry about that either. Oh, also, the carbiner that
- 1:31:39Speaker 2: you're attached to the whole latch thing just has fallen off,
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: like three seconds into your zip line. But you know,
- 1:31:45Speaker 2: if you just stay steady, you'll be fine. You're gonna
- 1:31:48Speaker 2: pick up a lot of speed and at one point
- 1:31:50Speaker 2: it's just going to give way. Then you're gonna plunge
- 1:31:52Speaker 2: down into the ocean. You're gonna go down about twelve
- 1:31:57Speaker 2: fifteen feet under the water, and it's going to be
- 1:32:00Speaker 2: very dark directly underneath you, but you're sensing a presence.
- 1:32:04Speaker 2: It's huge, and it's moving, and it's coming upward towards you.
- 1:32:09Speaker 2: You're going to swim to the surface as fast as
- 1:32:11Speaker 2: you possibly can. You're going to see that just in
- 1:32:16Speaker 2: the distance, you're going to see a little booi and
- 1:32:18Speaker 2: next to the booi, you're going to see me on
- 1:32:20Speaker 2: a boat. You need to swim to me as quickly
- 1:32:22Speaker 2: as you possibly can, look at me on the boat
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: and ask your question. I suggest that question should be
- 1:32:29Speaker 2: can I get in the boat with you? But you know,
- 1:32:32Speaker 2: I'll leave it up to you.
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: But if you can't swim or Johnathan has also poked
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- 1:32:55Speaker 1: which has our show notes. I don't know if I'm
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: going to get it updated before I head out, but
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: I'll get it updated when I get back. Not You
- 1:33:02Speaker 1: can also send us an email. We really do love
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: hearing from you. Our email is Large Nerdron Pod at
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- 1:33:14Speaker 1: won't be here next week more than likely, and we
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: look forward to speaking out with you when we both
- 1:33:19Speaker 1: get back. Until that time, I have been Aeriel. I
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: don't know. I'm still thinking about a rope breaking cast in.
- 1:33:29Speaker 2: And I've been Jonathan. Just keep swimming, strickloud Well.
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