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ONELEGUPALEX GETS TERMINELLO’s TAKE AS KNICKS ONE GAME AWAY 6-12-26 · OneLegUpAlex Media

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  Speaker 1: All right, lou Terminello, mister Terminello, mister you were an
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  Speaker 1: NBA executive for twenty eight years, and in those twenty
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  Speaker 1: eight years, I mean, yeah, you saw the Knicks have
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  Speaker 1: a run in ninety four and ninety nine. But the
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  Speaker 1: city feels like we're a powder keg right now about
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  Speaker 1: to explode. And I don't remember any time the Knicks
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  Speaker 1: have made the city feel like a powder keg in
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  Speaker 1: my lifetime like this, not even ninety four ninety nine, right, Louis, ummm, well.
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  Speaker 2: Again, it's different. I mean, let's Alex, thank you for
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  Speaker 2: having me. It's different right now. Yes, there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of different. It's different between even it was in the nineties.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the Knicks played an incredible series against the
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  Speaker 2: Bulls multiple times and the only time they beat them
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  Speaker 2: is when Jordan wasn't there. But even that series was
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  Speaker 2: a seven game incredible series. So I mean they were captivating.
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  Speaker 2: The NBA was captivating more than nineties and it is now. Again. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's great that the Knicks made this incredible comeback. As
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  Speaker 2: I told you when you texted me with five minutes
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  Speaker 2: in the second quarter thinking there was some shenanigans going on.
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  Speaker 2: That the NBA was looking to to u length in
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  Speaker 2: the series. I said, a long way to.
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  Speaker 1: Go and right, because you know basketball, and I know, no, it.
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  Speaker 2: Was an incredible comeback. There's a lot of pros, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, pros for the Knicks how they came back.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean the Spurs just collapsed. And again, they're
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  Speaker 2: the second youngest team in the NBA Finals history, and
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  Speaker 2: they showed how great talented they have in the first half,
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  Speaker 2: and then when the going got tough, they collapsed.
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  Speaker 1: They had some just bad three point shots. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they just weren't even hitting the rim at one point. Well,
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  Speaker 1: and yes, and there's some until Mike Brown's keeping this
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  Speaker 1: team endurance even through that twenty two point deficite against
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  Speaker 1: the Cabs. I know, this is very different. But there's
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  Speaker 1: something about the endurance of this team that I've not
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  Speaker 1: seen before because normally they are tired by the third
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  Speaker 1: quarter because simmses run them out there for so long.
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  Speaker 1: This is different, though, Like their their endurance is better now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, and they they were you know, they were
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  Speaker 2: a deeper team and uh uh you know, but again,
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  Speaker 2: I was texting one of one of my UH colleagues
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  Speaker 2: who worked in the NBA former colleagues, and uh while
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  Speaker 2: Spurs taking threes up twenty in the third quarter as
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  Speaker 2: playing right into the Knick's hands, and Barkley brought that
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  Speaker 2: point up on inside the NBA after the game. Uh
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  Speaker 2: I just uh, I just don't get it. Yes, their
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  Speaker 2: immaturity showed. They again, you saw both sides of the
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  Speaker 2: Spurs in the series, and.
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  Speaker 1: You know it's almost like they want to take control
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  Speaker 1: like they did over k c ok see, but the
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  Speaker 1: Knicks just haven't really let them do that. I know
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  Speaker 1: they won Monday night, but they still haven't let them
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  Speaker 1: absolutely domine. I mean, for some reason dominated Okac in
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  Speaker 1: a way I didn't think that would happen.
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  Speaker 2: Well again, they remember, okay See, he was playing without
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  Speaker 2: two of their top six guys, you know, for the
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  Speaker 2: second best player basically the whole series, and they're they're
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  Speaker 2: sixth man for half the series. But you know, last night,
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  Speaker 2: Mick Johnson, head coach of the San Antonio Spurs, I
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  Speaker 2: know he's in his first full year, so he's non
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  Speaker 2: experienced coach, did nothing to help his team repel the
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  Speaker 2: Nick run. And the Nick run wasn't crazy, It wasn't crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't It wasn't all at once, it was. It
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  Speaker 2: was chopped down a little bit at a time.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly the end of the third quarter, down fifteen, and
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  Speaker 1: they almost got to that point, which was good. And
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  Speaker 1: then they i mean, when they kept going back up
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  Speaker 1: by twenty, I'm like, oh boy, there's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a climb. But the Knicks managed it and managed it
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  Speaker 1: really well.
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  Speaker 2: They scored thirty points in the second half, which is
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  Speaker 2: almost unfathomable considering they scored seventy six points in the
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  Speaker 2: first half and then and Spurst scored only thirty. A
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  Speaker 2: key thing in the second half in my opinion, even
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  Speaker 2: though we didn't hit, you know, hit that one to
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  Speaker 2: three and again, now look, here's a one point game,
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  Speaker 2: a final score. And Alvarado took that three from the
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  Speaker 2: corner that looked like it was short and crawled in.
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  Speaker 2: And and the know, we had one also in the
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  Speaker 2: comeback that looked short on the front rim and crawled in.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, a lot of things go when you're
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  Speaker 2: collapsing or when you're you're making a run like the
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  Speaker 2: Knicks dick like that big.
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  Speaker 1: Three that it was hit, but it rolled around the
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  Speaker 1: rim a little bit. I know it's what you're talking about. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then well and then the heart pick and roll
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  Speaker 1: that was that didn't really work, but they survived that
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  Speaker 1: look even down the stretch, there were moments where I
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  Speaker 1: thought this burst still might.
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  Speaker 2: Pull it out, because well, you're right one for seven
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  Speaker 2: to go. Wembinyana, who is not? He's not? Please no,
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  Speaker 2: But I don't want to hear anybody to compare him
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  Speaker 2: to Abdyl Jabbar anymore. It's an insult to Abdul Jabbar.
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  Speaker 2: He might end up being up there with abdl Jabbar,
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  Speaker 2: but he's not. And other guys in the Eli Jauan
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  Speaker 2: and people out there comparing him to but he's not. Now,
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  Speaker 2: with one forty seven to go, he blows those two
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  Speaker 2: free throws. He had missed one free throw the entire game.
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  Speaker 2: He blew those two free throws. They lost by one.
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  Speaker 2: That's key. Then the bonehead play of bonehead plays that
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  Speaker 2: long rebound when Brunton missed at three with the thirteen
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  Speaker 2: twelve seconds to go, and the the Aaron Fox had
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  Speaker 2: the ball and he just ninety nine percent of the time,
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  Speaker 2: you just hold on to that ball, get fouled, run
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  Speaker 2: off a couple of seconds and try to make those
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  Speaker 2: two free throws. He did that on he did that
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  Speaker 2: the previous game. It wasn't the same play with a
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  Speaker 2: long rebound, but he got fouled and one thirteen eleven
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  Speaker 2: game became one fifteen eleven with six seconds to go.
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  Speaker 2: That was that was an inexcusable era bi by Dion
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  Speaker 2: the Aaron Fox. But Alex, when you're up twenty nine
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  Speaker 2: points in the second quarter, you're you're up twenty seven
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  Speaker 2: at the half, you're up twenty in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 2: even though the Knicks cut it to fourteen fifteen, and
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  Speaker 2: the third, like you said, the Spurs got it back
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  Speaker 2: up to twenty. I believe that it was like nine
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  Speaker 2: thirty to go, they were up twenty. That's it's more
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  Speaker 2: than just one play. It's more than just the boneheit
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  Speaker 2: play by Fox. But that was a bonehead play, and
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna be that's going to stick with him for
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  Speaker 2: the rest of his career. But it's more than one play.
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  Speaker 2: The Spurs got away from what they did they would
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  Speaker 2: they started taking freeze, Alex, they got scared. They got scared,
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  Speaker 2: they did they panicked.
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  Speaker 1: They really and then turnover. I mean I know that
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  Speaker 1: heart didn't complete it but that turnover was still crucial
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  Speaker 1: because it was that was in the moment where they
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  Speaker 1: were driving down the paint driving in, Heart steals it.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, even though he missed it, Heart
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  Speaker 1: did make the final block on the Spurs. So he's
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  Speaker 1: had an impact on the series for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's the thing about the Knicks. Everybody contributes, even
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  Speaker 2: though they may not have huge numbers in the box score.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody contributes. And Mike Brown he out coached Mitch Johnson
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  Speaker 2: I think for most of this series. And he's a
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  Speaker 2: guy who threw a month ago or six weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: was gonna get fired, and now he's going to be
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  Speaker 2: on the float sometime next week Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: Let me talk about Mike Brown. It was a very
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  Speaker 1: crucial part of the game. It was like a couple
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  Speaker 1: of minutes left, they call that time out, maybe under
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  Speaker 1: the minute mark. But he walks in the huddle like
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  Speaker 1: so poised and calm. He wasn't panicking. He just like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna figure this out. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like that poise and that calmness is really you know,
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  Speaker 1: early on in the year, people don't really remember this,
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  Speaker 1: but there were rumors the locker room was a little fracture,
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  Speaker 1: like he wouldn't have their respect entirely. I don't exactly
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  Speaker 1: know if that's true, but I don't know either, but
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you he looks like he's got the locker
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  Speaker 1: room now, and his poise is calmness is probably what's
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  Speaker 1: got him where they are right now, one game away
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  Speaker 1: from winning the final.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt. And you know, putting Alvarado because really the Spurs,
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  Speaker 2: while while they collapsed offensively, with the exception of that
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  Speaker 2: last possession where.
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  Speaker 1: They locked down Brunson, pretty damn good, and they.
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  Speaker 2: Did, I mean, the whole game. Their defense was he.
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  Speaker 1: Was able to get passes off to Alvarado and the
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  Speaker 1: likes I mean, and by the way, don't think don't
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  Speaker 1: And I got to get the stats here on the
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  Speaker 1: real app. But don't knock him for his stat line.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I may not have scored. I think
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  Speaker 1: he scored a lot, but let me get to the
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  Speaker 1: right stats here. But the point is he passed the
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  Speaker 1: ball a lot also, And I noticed that last night.
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  Speaker 2: He's a superstar offensive point guard. There's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let me give me his line. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know b thirty three point thirty three points runs in
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  Speaker 1: thirty five by the way, Canada double double, which not
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  Speaker 1: really many people realized last night. But he had that also.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, these guys are contributing in their own ways.
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  Speaker 1: But no, not only did he have thirty five points,
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  Speaker 1: he had a Thursday expoints. He had seven assists. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and that led the whole team. So what can I tell?
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  Speaker 2: Alex? He's everywhere on the court, He's everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: When he on the back foot, he falls on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: But he makes that shot anyway. I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: he did that one, but that was that was quite
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  Speaker 1: a shot. So now let me ask you this, Louis,
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  Speaker 1: do you think the fans in the building care about
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  Speaker 1: the SATs meeting. We see them all go crazy because
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  Speaker 1: the and that's how the NBA is. Like I realized
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  Speaker 1: people react to the shots, but I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: many people actually observe how to play unfolds. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think do you think they're more observant than we realized.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they just cheer at the shot. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: I'm wrong on that.
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  Speaker 2: But I it's it's, let's face it, New York Sports
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  Speaker 2: fans was ever sport it is, and whatever team they
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  Speaker 2: root for are knowledgeable fans. Uh but I but I
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  Speaker 2: think and they know what's going on. They they know
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  Speaker 2: when the team is running a bad play, they know
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  Speaker 2: when they're taking a bad shot. They they know all that.
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  Speaker 2: But the only thing they care about, They only care
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  Speaker 2: about the end result. Whatever gets whatever it gets you
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  Speaker 2: to the whatever gets heat to the finish line. You
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  Speaker 2: know that that's that's all that matters. And uh, now
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  Speaker 2: looking at it from a Knicks standpoint, okay, uh, you
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  Speaker 2: know they're going to barring the collapse of collapse, and
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  Speaker 2: it really would be especially after I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: the Spurs can recover. I don't know how they're not comato.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they seem to always lead, and that was different
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  Speaker 1: this year. Then Spurs always had a big lead in
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the game and then of course here but.
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  Speaker 2: Well, well the last night was the humongous lead, largest
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  Speaker 2: the blown lead in finals history.
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  Speaker 1: But even before that twelve to two run or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: it was no, no, no question and a lot And
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  Speaker 1: of course you know the other thing is I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I keep talking about the twenty two point come against
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  Speaker 1: the Caves, but yeah, This was a different level. This
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  Speaker 1: was like a level of they had not I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they even ended the half that badly in any
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  Speaker 1: of the other games. That was the other jarring thing
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  Speaker 1: is they were down twenty seven at the half. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, how was it possible? You know? But now
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  Speaker 1: I set on my prior podcast before I talk to you,
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  Speaker 1: when you listen to it, that this game goes up. Second,
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  Speaker 1: you cannot take away Willis Reid's hip game, that seventh
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  Speaker 1: game from the top of the Holy Girl. That is
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  Speaker 1: Holy Girl for Nick's franchise history. But would'd you agree
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  Speaker 1: this is the second most important You kind of want
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  Speaker 1: to go back and forth on that one. So why
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  Speaker 1: do you disagree?
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  Speaker 2: Louis Well again, Now let's go back, like I agree
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  Speaker 2: with you. Nothing to well top May of nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 2: game seven. First of all, you're talking about a Knicks
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  Speaker 2: team that was a great basketball team. This next team
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  Speaker 2: is you know, I got it. You know it's not
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  Speaker 2: a great team. It's a very good team playing a
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  Speaker 2: very good Spurs team that's very inexperience. Like we said,
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  Speaker 2: second youngest team ever to play the Final, to play
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  Speaker 2: in the finals, the Knicks and seventy were also playing
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  Speaker 2: a great Laker team with West Baylor, Gail Goodrich Chamberlain,
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  Speaker 2: So you can't compare it. And that Nick team would
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  Speaker 2: destroy this Sick team. It would destroy him. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I hate to say, I'm just being realistic. Who saw
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  Speaker 2: the Knicks go to the finals in seventy, seventy two
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  Speaker 2: and seventy three, But that takes nothing away from the
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  Speaker 2: Knicks winning this championship. You can only play who you play,
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  Speaker 2: and that's where we are. Actually, there's there's no team
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  Speaker 2: in the NBA, not even if Oklahoma City was healthy
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  Speaker 2: that could match the Knicks of seventy or the Lakers
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  Speaker 2: of seventy. They just couldn't. And but uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Cats off to uh to the Knick's matchment. They put
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  Speaker 2: together a very balanced, solid team that's going to uh
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  Speaker 2: uh get get this third championship. I mean, barring the
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  Speaker 2: greatest collapse, which I don't see happening, even.
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  Speaker 1: If a little bit tomorrow. But then the next will
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  Speaker 1: come back in and take over the game. That's kind
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  Speaker 1: of how I could see it.
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  Speaker 2: And even if by some chances Spurs win, they're not winning.
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  Speaker 2: They're not winning Game six. Well, let's face it, they're
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  Speaker 2: not winning three in a row.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you make a good point. That was also
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  Speaker 1: the first home game from any team on the and
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  Speaker 1: the I.
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  Speaker 2: Told you, I told you off yesterday the home court
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  Speaker 2: was going to kick in sooner or later. I didn't,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we didn't think it was going to be
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  Speaker 2: last night when uh it was twenty seven points at halftime.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, the home you know, the home court
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  Speaker 2: is going to kick in. So it kicked in last night.
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  Speaker 2: From a Spurs standpoint, when they think about this summer,
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  Speaker 2: when they review, when they look at when they look
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  Speaker 2: at this film, and they of the whole series, because
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  Speaker 2: let's face it, Alex, out of sixteen quarters, it's not
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  Speaker 2: like the Knicks have played them seventy five eighty percent
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  Speaker 2: of the time. It's basically fifty to fifty. Tour of
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  Speaker 2: the games have been decided by one point. I think,
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  Speaker 2: only the second time in NBA history, or the second time,
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  Speaker 2: the first time since nineteen sixty nine in the finals.
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  Speaker 2: So obviously a call here, a bounce here, a free
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  Speaker 2: throw made here, Wemby, you missed those two free throws.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's how close. That's how close this is.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I don't know how in two I think you're
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  Speaker 1: pretty intuit the rules, and I understand the basic six
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  Speaker 1: thousand you're out. But the flagrant stuff that he's talking about,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, are they missing it? Are they not calling it? Like,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on with the flagrant Well.
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  Speaker 2: Some it's funny. Some of my former NBA colleagues would
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  Speaker 2: text me the NBA has gone oderline calling flagran foul.
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  Speaker 2: He should let some stuff go. But one of the
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  Speaker 2: things that's happening now again, if the Spurs had one
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  Speaker 2: and tied it last night, it would be more of
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  Speaker 2: a factor. I mean, if Wemby got one more flavorant foul,
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  Speaker 2: that's for that, he has three points against him already
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  Speaker 2: through through the entire playoffs, he would be suspended. So say,
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  Speaker 2: if it was too to say, the Spurs won Game five,
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  Speaker 2: the Knicks won Game six, and and Wenby had got
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  Speaker 2: a flagrant foul and he's a big guy and you know,
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  Speaker 2: his elbows are flailing. I don't think intentionally most of
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  Speaker 2: the time. But you know, like last night, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think his flagrant foul was an intentional foul, but it
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  Speaker 2: made contact, you know, with Karl Anthony Towns one more
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  Speaker 2: and he would he would be suspended for game seven.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine if that had happened. It's three three
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  Speaker 2: and there's no wemby game to seven. Uh, he you know,
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  Speaker 2: because if you collect, if you get four flagrants, you
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  Speaker 2: collect four points, you're out for one game.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, try something. I don't know if he's gonna try
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  Speaker 1: something else Saturday. Again.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he did anything dirty like last night.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think. I mean, I think that came. I
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  Speaker 2: was actually surprised that they called that a flagrant because, uh,
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't something that look premeditated. He's a big guy.
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  Speaker 2: He's got long, gangly arm, gangly arms. Everybody he's seven
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  Speaker 2: to five, and even even a guy like Kat, who's
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  Speaker 2: a big man, you know, below him when they're standing
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  Speaker 2: next to each other. So, uh, you know, we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'll be interesting that And then Kat
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  Speaker 1: having two fouls early on the quarter was the first
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  Speaker 1: quarter was just kind of wild. But I also think
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  Speaker 1: about all this from the history of from the biggest perspective,
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  Speaker 1: because they all played the Garden at the Big East
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  Speaker 1: level and now they're playing at the NBA Final level, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I think that's pretty cool Champagne with
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  Speaker 1: Saint John's Castle, with Yukon. Of course the Nova Knicks,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, Brunston Hart, Come on, how exciting is this
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: that you know they're having a sort of those big
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: East alumni reunion in a way, I find that pretty cool.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: On the same floor they all competed on it.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Nova Knicks are going to be a
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: part of what not many players accomplished an NCAA championship,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: some of us what the Brunson won at two Bridges one,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I think one Heart one. I think Brunston was the
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: only Brunton and Devincenzo was the only one that won too,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: and I think Devincenzo was hurt for the first one.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: But they're going to have these three guys Hart, Bridges
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: and uh Brunching of go to have both an NBA
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: ring and a college ring, and that is spectacular.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: It is h Every's just a you know, Hall of
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Fame status. I don't know we're even there yet because
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if this core is done. I thought
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: this core might be done after this year, but I
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna keep going for a while. I just
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: have a feeling and they're gonna keep they're going to
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: keep with the Bucks? Is that a possibility?
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't even know, And I think the Knicks
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: are not getting honest. If they are, they're making a big.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Mistake because I actually now that are wait.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Especially now that they've won, well they have one, yet
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: they need to win this YEA, Well yeah, right, you're right,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: you're right, And I've been in sports for long enough
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: to know that, Yes, they haven't won yet, you're correct.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Two thousand. I know it's baseball, but that's trauma. How
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: about hell? How about the nets up? Two oh? I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: thought we all thought they were going to be the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Bucks that year, but.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: And it looks like they would have won the championship.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: So you're right, you're you're right. But they're healthy, they
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: got the Knicks are gritty, they got chemistry, their experience,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: they're well coached. Collapsed for them too.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I'm watching the non civilized celebrations of this Knicks win
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: last night. I mean, a guy banging on a cab door,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: cab window, ruining it. Man, I remember ninety nine. At
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: least we were all civilized back then. During this run,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: where did the I don't want to say because it's
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: such a racial term. But where the hitdlums come in
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: and ruined it all the fun. I don't understand it, Louis.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Well, Alex, That's the one thing New York always pride
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: itself on. When the team won a championship, there was
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: never any destruction of cities like when Vancouver won Game six.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I mean ESPN did the thirty for thirty or as
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: sixty on it on the Vancouver Riot. I mean they
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: didn't even win the Stanley Cup. Detroit Montreal has had
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: had memorable quote unquote street riots when the Canadians, you
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: know won, they haven't won in thirty three years. But
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: you can go. But the one New York always Philadelphia.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: But New York always avoided until this time. I was
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: in Shea Stadium for Game six and Game seven of
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: those two iconic games against the Red Sox. I drove,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I drove out of parking lot. Yeah, I mean it
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: was obviously just it took me maybe about a half
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: hour ga out of parking lot. But there was no no,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: no issues at all. The Rangers won the Stanley Cup
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four, first one in fifty four years,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: there was nothing outside the garden. There were no problems
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: when the Giants won in eighty six, were there any problems,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: There were no problems, or ninety or two thousand and
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: all those Yankee.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Runs, they all just at the parade and that was it.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I mean there, that was it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: So this is I don't know if society has changed.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know, because we have so much social media
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: now that brings these people who maybe really aren't fans
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to these to these uh watch parties, and you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of watch parties to begin with.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: And uh again, it's very disappointing now the band. That's
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: the sad thing is some some reporters and I was
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: watching them, uh were saying, well, this happened back, you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: in in eighty six and in ninety four, and in
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: ninety it didn't. It did not happen new York. Never
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: happened in New York. Never never happened when when the
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Yankees or anybody or any of these.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Teams won, I was there. Uh, they did the little
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: parade around the arena. Nothing crazy there.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: And there was nothing crazy after after after games. I've
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: been I've left Nassau Coliseum after the Islanders won, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: they have such a rabbit fan base in the parking lot.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: After the Islanders won big playoff games. Nothing happened so.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Bad they blocked off And I understand there's a whole
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: rift between Dolan and MOMDONI now or whatever they blocked
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: off the entire perimeter. I mean, that was never New
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: York's way. We always were allowed to get close to
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the garden, even on freaking finals day.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Well again, that's a whole that that's between a Dolan
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and Mandami. But again, but the regular fan the quote unfolte,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: we never saw this until the until this series. I
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: don't get it. You know, twenty one or twenty one arrested,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: six policemen injured for after Game three last night, I
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: heard seventeen arrested and two injured at Brian Park. You know,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I don't get it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: It's it's that that's the on the scene. But I
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: literally made the wise ridges go home. You can't know, yes,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: go home, even even I want to keep my leg
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: is what I've been saying.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: But that's it.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Even on Monday night, like I went out for a
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: little bit, but then I just shuttled myself out of
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the city because you know, they were looking bad. But
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: if they happened to win. I don't want to be
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: in the city because if they went up three to zero,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the whole city might not have survived that night.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But you know, again, Alex, they don't care. They don't care.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: They don't care that that that you're handicapping, your on crutches.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: They'll run, they'll run you down. They're not going to
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: pick you.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Get me crowd surfing, and I don't.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean that, it's it's it's sad, it's disappointing.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I never thought that would happen in New York. I
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: really didn't because because it never did. And you're right,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: you know, we've had some iconic moments.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: We have, Yeah, we we have. Even the two thousand
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Subway series. No one was rioting after that.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: You're exactly right. And I went I went to all
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: three of the games at Shay. There was no issues.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: You're right, maybe in the stands, but kidding, yeah.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And even in the stands what they might have been,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you know, the one or two isolated, but there was
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: you know, I want I went to all three games.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Well, generation that was respectful. I grew up, and that's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the problem. I think that's it.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: You're right, it's a generational thing. It's it's lack of
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: it's lack of respect for each other. And well that's
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: now we're getting away from sports and what the world
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: is looking.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I might think they might block it out. I mean,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and they may have to make it a ticketed parade
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: at this point. I don't know. And that's sad because
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: normally these parades are for the public. Yeah, no, absolutely,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: and I understand the Liberty one in twenty four, but
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: it would be the first of all the four Majors.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it'll be different, Alex, this will be
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: this will be humongous. This parade willngus.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I heard you're coming in uh first train in right?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Look, Well, is my desk at one eleven still open?
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Or oh my god?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure. I'm sure Tony's gonna take care
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: of you. I'm sure Tony's gonna at the front desk.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: The kid. I'll be out on the parade room next
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to Brunson. What are you talking about? Uh, I'm here
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: with Jalen Yay speaking into existence. You never know. Well,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: that's the other thing about this, there's so many security concerns.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: This isn't a watch party like in the first couple
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: of rounds. They really have to make a decision if
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: they want to do a watch party, because after what
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: we've seen, I think the garden may oup not to
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: open the garden for Game five. That's what I'm thinking here, Lewis.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I was wondering if they were going to do that. Now, Alex,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: you say it's ten dollars to get into the garden,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I will be fifty to.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: One hundred dollars. Now I will think, no, No, I
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna be ten. Now, I think
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: they would up the price at that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: well look they they should not be afraid. That's the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: other problem. These hoodlums are making everybody afraid. They should
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: not be afraid to open the garden for a watch party.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Everybody does it, even uh when there is a clincher,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: teams open up their arena, they're off.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: No, that's done throughout the country.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: You're right, So I I don't agree with them not opening.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I think they should. I think they should just say
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: screw all the rabble rousers and just let the fans
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: enjoy it. First of all, you price us out anyway
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: for the two games, that's what you deserve. It should
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: be there for the clinch, you know what I mean.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: And by the way, I want to get a little political.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I know, I know people that listen don't like us
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: getting political, but I want to say this, mister affordable
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: affordability one thousand dollars ticket, but he doesn't make it
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: affordable or make it available, make a deal like you
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: did with FIFA for regular Nick fans. The guy's a
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: phony as far as I'm gonna when it comes back.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: But that's I'll say that. You don't have to say that.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I'll make that little on the network because it's it's
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: infuriating the first time.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: It is infuriating.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I agree, Bud, I do because the first time since
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, and the average fan has his watch outside.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry Taylor's for being there last night. She's not
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: a New York fan. I know she was at the
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Garden a few times, but she's just there for show
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: where the wheel is Yes.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Yes they are you are? You are correct?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: And the other thing talk about generational shift in ninety nine.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Uh in ninety nine they all wore suits on the sideline.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: What is this with this track suit ship? Like I'd
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: rather than just wear suits.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Again, well, the NBA has lessened the dress code, which looked.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: To dress the nines every time he was on the sideline.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you know Chuck Daily coached us for
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: two years, he dressed impeccably.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: You know that Warren's, Frank, Byron Scott all, they all
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: dressed really well. I mean they just you know they did.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: It's now the NBA then, has lessened the dress coach
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: for coaches.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, you're about to win a champions
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: are gonna wear a tracksuit to wisit?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: No?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I don't understand it. And it's been like that since
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: post pandemic and you talk about airport wear and a basketbook.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. They need Duffy to say something, but like,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: can you wear suits on the sideline and like that
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the terminal? You know, the whole thing. Anyway, Louis, I
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: don't know it'll be fun, but I do have to
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: open the garden. I want to get in there and
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: at least get a picture of the O'Brien trophy logo
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: on the court. I think that's such a cool thing
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: they did this year. Apparently I've always had that, but
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: they got rid of it for a while.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: They got rid of it for a while and people
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: people made enough stink that they brought it back. I
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: like it. I like it on court.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I do so you Met Samboula and a few others
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: think it's coming back to New York for Game six.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I think the home home team will get a fair whistle.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I have to say that, but you never I don't.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I think the I think the officiating for the first
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: four games has been fine. I really do I I really,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I really think they've done a good job in the
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: tough situation. They've done a really good job.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Well that's why I have you on, because you're one
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: of the more sane voices. Everybody else is like ragular.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: And then I heard Steven and Steve Aye Smith wants
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: a ring. What has he ever done for the NIXT team.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I know he doesn't understand that one either, but yeah.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Well, Stephen A. Smith knows how to sell Stephen A. Smith.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: He does a great job. He I think he's a
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: blow hard, but the one thing that he does at
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: an expert level, he knows how to sell the Stephen A.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Smith brand. SODA's McAfee.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, Kirk Herbs. She had a nice view of
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the shot last night. The tip in last night that
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: was that was pretty cool. But we'll have to see.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I do want to say one thing. I am keeping
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: an eye on other sports because as you know, we're
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: a multi sports city and I know it's early on
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: since Judge was announced by the way he was there
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: last night. Aaron Judge was there last night. Since Judge
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: was announced four to six weeks, they're four and one
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: after the sweep against the Guardians, So maybe the sky
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: isn't falling after all. We have to see by July.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: But I'm keeping an eye on that because if they
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: can have a winning record without Judge on like twenty three,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that's a good shape heading into the postseason. But feel
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: like we're a long ways away from that and no
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: one's really caring about that, but I will because that's
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: what we do here. One look up alex Sports. We
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: follow everything, Louis.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: We follow everything absolutely. And the thing that the end
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: that's gonna help keep the Yankees going is they have
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: outstanding starting pitching. That's that's going to keep the Yankees going.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: They need Judge. It's a monumental injury. But again, they're
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: not playing in the American League East of Old and
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: that's gonna help them. That's gonna help them get there.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: And the trade deadlines coming up, are the Red SOPs
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: gonna trade a Chapman teams and rind out?
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: You know, he just got demoted, so I don't know
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: what's going to happen.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they'll trade him. He's too young, so
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: they probably just want to fix him down in the
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: minor leagues.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: If they get Chapman again, the other is gonna pull
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: their hair out because we have some bad memories with him.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: But we'll have to see.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't think the Red Sox would unless the
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Yankees are going to give up something that the Red
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Sox think would really help them. I don't think the
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Yankees and Red Sox are going to make a trade.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think the Red Sox want
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: to give them Chapman back to help them. But I
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: could see Chapman getting traded, uh to a contending team
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: and uh but yeah no, if they could, if they
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: could stay above a five hundred, you know, uh, not
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: a above five hundred. Above five hundred would out with
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: with with Judge out, and we don't know how long
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: he's going to be out. Remember they said four to
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: six weeks and he'll be re examined, so if they
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: stick with that, he could be longer.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: All right, Louis, Uh, I don't know. We haven't done
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: a Mets update in a minute, but we can. I
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: just don't know what's updates about them because.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: There's nothing to update about them. There is really nothing.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, by the time they get their injured guys back,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: like Glendor Alpharez made an amazing comeback a month before
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: you're supposed to last night. But uh, they it looks
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: like it looks like they're done. It looks like that
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: this year's Atlanta Braves of last year that couldn't get
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: their own way. Now next year they end up like
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: the Atlanta radge are this year. Okay, but we don't
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: know that.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Oh oh, speaking of gms. By the way, one last thing,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: do you think after this postseason NBA Finals run in
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: the ring, maybe Dolan goes on the stage and it
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: announces the firing of Chris Drury at City Hall and
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: say we're rebuilding the next the Rangers next. Is that
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: a possibility, Louis, I'd love to.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: See that, that is, Alex. I know you're I know
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: you're not a big fan of Chris Drury, but that
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: is not going to happen.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: So we won't say are your keys of the cities
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and a pink slip for Chris Jerry at the.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: South That is not That is not going to happen.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Not not this year. Uh that not this year, that's
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: for sure. And uh again, you just your off Dolan.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: All the Knick fans who said that he's a terrible owner,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: get rid of them all this kind of crap. Uh.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: You know, he's going to be the owner of a
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: of an NBA champion if they can get one more.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: These guys were destroying news paper boxes. What is this?
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I've never seen the city like this. Anyway, we we
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: gotta pray, and I pray for the two guys I
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: saw at Houston Hall wearing Spurs jerseys during the during
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: the OKC thing. By the way, New Yorkers are not
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: like that, so please don't think that this anybody watching nationally.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: We are not all like that. In fact, Louis, one
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: last thing. The other night, they showed the Kraos outside
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Brian Park with all the with all the guys bringing
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: down the bus stop signs, and then you watch Bryan
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Park is the most civilized thing in the world. Like
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: want to juxtaposition right outside the park. I don't understand it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Louis, No, it's it's it's disheartening, it really is. That's not.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: That's what not what New York sports fans are like
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: and like, will you to jump.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: On the fourth of July Barges next? Is that? What's?
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's true.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, that will make for a
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: fun two point fifty celebration. If the Knicks win the
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Ring this year, it's like all part of it, and
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: then maybe Team USA soccer, who wins the whole thing.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know how likely that is in soccer, but
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: you never.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Know, Alex. If that happens, If Team USA, if they
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: get passed, if they get to the quarter finals, it
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: would be a great accomplishment in my opinion today, But
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: it starts today at USA Place Tomorrow night at nine
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: o'clock versus Paraguay on Fox. I think they're going They'll
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: get out of the group stage and hopefully they can
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: win a knockout round or two and at least make
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: it inter thing.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: And uh, and the all roads lead through I'm sorry,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: New York New Jersey Stadium.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: And that's right. Get get it right, kid, get it right.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: And yet it's the most corporate event in the world.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: They have to call it a non corporate thing. It's
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: so funny, it is.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: It's it's so hypocritical. You're right, you re you really,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: you really hit the nail on the head there.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: And as you know, I've never been a fan of
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: because of the corruption. I've always felt they had.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: But oh my god, corruption it will be there forever.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: It's so deep that it can never be I don't
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: think it could ever be cleaned up.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: No, they can't be. But lou on that note, that's
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Terminal's take on everything going on in the city. Everything's
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: focused on the Knicks right now and should be. Is
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: there one game away? The back pages are all about that,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: as it should be. And uh, the o MG is back,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: except it's the Knicks this time on the New York Post.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: How about that, Louis.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: They're gonna unlike the match, They're going to get the
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: job done. They're completing the job.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I never really, I haven't asked this in a while,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: but maybe give listeners a fresh take, because I was
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: just thinking about this in those NBA Finals runs. I
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: know it's New Jersey, but did you feel a p
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: did you feel the palpable nature against the Lakers? Like
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: was there some kind of hope for the Nets in
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: those years? I mean it was a pretty jump in
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: place for a while.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the thing is against the Lakers, and you know,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I will I knew that Game seven again when the
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Lakers were playing Sacramento in the Western Conference Finals. We
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: had we had already won the conference championship against Boston,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: and uh, I was praying that Sacramento, up three games
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: to two, would win the series against the Lakers because
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I know we could beat them. I know we couldn't
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: beat the Lakers because and not because of Kobe, because
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: of Shack. Because shaq Is was a man mountain. The
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the officials didn't know how to how to officiate him. Uh,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: you know, we have we didn't have the We had
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Aaron Williams, Jason Collins, and Todd McCullough to go against him.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: That was a mismatch. As good a team as we
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: had going to the finals, we couldn't handle Shack and
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: we didn't. Uh, and that's why we lost four straight, now.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Thought.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Then the next year we played the Spurs, a Spur
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: team with four future Hall of famers at the peak
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: of their career and late in their career. David Robinson
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: was late in his career but was still a you know,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: still a great player. Tim Duncan the greatest power forward,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: flash center, depending on how you want to categorize him,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: but he was really a power forward of all time. Jernobili,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Tony Parker. But I thought we were winning that series.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: It was too too I thought we were gonna going
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: to win the series when it was to to as
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: great as they were, as great with all those Hall
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: of Fame players that they had, I thought we were
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: going to win that series. Yeah, but we didn't. Then,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: you know, that's that's the way it goes. But again,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: to getting to back to back finals was an incredible,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: incredible thrill.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: And then I'm sorry, I had a bit of a
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: soft spot for the Nets and Jason Kid going to
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the Knicks just kind of rubbed me the wrong way,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: and always will I.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Can't well he went he went for his last year.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, nobody ever, even thinks of him as a
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: nick You know that happens a lot Ron Santo is
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: known as as a Hall of Fame Cub. He plays
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the last two years as a White Sox. It's it's
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: not unusual.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: And by the way, that's a team to watch. The
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: White Socks are the team to watch this year because
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: they looked really good. And this kid that's it a Homer.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I guess Bob Cossa is calling games for Chicago.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I didn't know they they.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Had throwback Night on Tuesday, so they threw and I
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: missed it. I missed it because I was watching the
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Stanley Cup game and uh where they I think they
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: used throwback.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Graphics finals on too. I forgot about.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: And so I didn't watch any any of that game.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: But they had Costas come in and do the game
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: with Steve Stone. I guess Steve Stone and costants her buddies.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Costas was in Chicago on Sunday for the Sunday night
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: game between the Cubs and the White Sox. He stayed over.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: He did he did the the Braves, uh White Sox game.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: And he loves baseball. It's he loves yeah, he loves baseball.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, I know our hockey fans are waiting
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: for this or we should get into this. It's game five,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: it's tied. I don't know. Man, every time the Hurricanes
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: win a game, I'm telling you all the time, I'm
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: happy for them. I want to see them make this
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: a series. I want to see them because they definitely
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: don't feel like the favorite right now, I'll put it
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: that way.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I would say it's a toss up. And one
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: thing I was wrong on And you know, when we
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: talked about this just before the series began, it was
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: gonna low. We thought it was gonna be a low
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: scoring serious I said it was going to be a
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: low scoring series, and it's not. It's a high scoring
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Stanley Cup Final. It's the second fine scoring Stanley Cup
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Final through four games in history. So these are two
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: terrific defensive teams but they have not played up to
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: their defensive standards so far. Vegas is getting so many
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: odd man rutters against Carolina, which I think was possible.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: And the goaltending has been okay, it's not Schroken and
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Andrew Sterkin or Vazileskian and Bobrowski in nets, but the
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: goaltending has been been okay, but there's you know, a
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: lot of chances, and the goaltenders have still made big saves.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Now Brandon Boosey is gonna play tonight. He hadn't played
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: at all. Now we don't know if Anderson's hurt. What
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: the dla is? I heard this morning that he skated
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: on his own, but he's not. It's gonna be Bussy
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: and Gold tonight, and I would be shocked if it wasn't.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I think Caroline is still going. It's gonna go seven, Alex.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: It might go seven, it might go to overtime. We
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: might have a game seven overtime. That's how the way
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: these teams are. No.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and uh, you know Stall's been around for
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: a while, so see him make those goals.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Alex, he has been tremendous. He's a monster.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: They can't you know, they they can't move him out
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: of uh, out of the slot.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: That he's part of the Stall Brothers, isn't he?
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, he is one of the five who played in
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: the NHL.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Do that See? I know a little hockey. I love it.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: But one last thing, we're talking about the network.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: This is a big year and I have for for
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: for the ESPN, ABC, You've got absolutely, You've got the
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: finals for the NBA and Stanley Cup, and then you
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: got the.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl in feb You worry. Yeah, Oh my god,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Disney Kids, Mickey Mouse has to be running it, sitting
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: and bathing in money right now.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I have to say, well, I'm sure the ratings for
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: last night's game are going to be off the charts.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Probably last week. In fact, they said Monday night's game
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: was more than ninety eight, which is interesting because the
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Knicks were on in ninety nine. But I guess I
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: don't know why why that wouldn't be more views than
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: ninety eight. Anyway, this is gonna top a lot of records,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I think, especially last night.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: So yeah, no, last night was a game for the
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: agent to be sure, you.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Know, put that tip in in the louver. You know
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: that tip in is just.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Believe me, it's going to be portraits of that tip
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: and that they're going to sell for you know, for
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: five thousand dollars. It's gonna be bobbleheads of that tip
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: in that they're going to give out next year at
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: a game. You're going to see how they're gonna merchandise
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: that og tip in.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I did. I put it
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: on my Finax creator page. Not not the picture, but
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I play a shirt of on the no beyond my
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Finax collections.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: You can check that out, you know yet, I know
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I was gonna check it out. Just before we started.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: One of the we got I know, we gotta go.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: One of the five most underrayed players in the NBA
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: is og and.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: You love that. He is the Matsui of this team.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I would, I would definitely say that's a very good comparison.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: And you get gotta remember this is gonna be He's
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a second championship one. You know he
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: went with Toronto. Yeah, so uh, you know, the guy's underrated.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: R J.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Barrett, best of luck. In fact, people forget about this.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: He had a huge shot. I think it was against.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Philly, it was against it was against Kavalkavlets.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: But I mean it was a huge shot for the
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Raptors in that moment. Look, I want to see him succeed.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I always thought Barrett was a good piece to this
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: next team for Alex, but this trade paid off.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Now, Alex, be honest, you know, we know he said
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: her a long time when Knicks made that trade, when
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: they made the trade, when they traded the two young guys. O, G.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: You weren't so sure.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I wasn't, and I remember because I talked to you
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: about it. I wasn't so sure because I thought Barrett
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: could be like the future of the Knicks. And and
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: but Leon rose another move that he knew what he
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: was doing. Look at Albarado another move that he knew
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: what he was doing. This this deadline. I mean, see,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: people don't think about the NBA deadline as much, but
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: he he won the deadline. I mean, Albarado is the
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: win of the deadline as far as I'm concerned.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he played, He's played fine.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: And I don't know he was. That was the problem.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I don't really know who he was. And then all
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, a couple of years later, I'm like,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: oh my god, if I don't know he's healthy, this
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: team makes a run and I feel like my thought
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: prizes is vindicated now because I knew. You know, he
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't healthy last year. Really he wasn't even really healthy
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. He's healthy, and that is
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: such a difference maker for this well.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I also think he's hard working in his game. I
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: think he is a guy who's improved his game offensively.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I think he's better offensively now than he's been at
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: any time in his career. No, I really, I mean.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: And when we keep saying, Louis, this is the core,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: this is the time right now, this is your prime.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: And I think it's also reverbering. I think you're gonna
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: see Jackson Dark play Sharper this year. I think you're
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: gonna see Judge when he comes back. I think they're
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: all inspired by this run.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I have to say, oh, well again, Alex, that might
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: be stretching it a little bit, but we'll see.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: No, this is this is gonna make an impact on
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: the city sports. I really believe that beyond just winning
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: in a championship, this is gonna affect everything. So we'll see.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: All Right, Louis, I gotta head out all right, by work,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: but always love talking to you on Terminolo's take. Thank you, Alex,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: all right, talk to you soon.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Bye bye,