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INTERVIEW: Kelly Rowland, Method Man & DeVon Franklin talks “Relationship Goals”, Personal love challenges, Hiphop + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago.
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  Speaker 2: Click up the Breakfast Club. Finish for y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Done morning everybody, It's dj n V.
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  Speaker 4: Just hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: Charlamagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Law La
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  Speaker 3: Roses here as well. We got some special guests in
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  Speaker 3: the building, some family. We have Kelly Rowland, the Brother
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  Speaker 3: Met the Man.
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  Speaker 4: And Devon Franklin.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 5: Great relationship Relationship?
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  Speaker 6: What made you want to turn Relationship Goes into a movie?
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  Speaker 6: It's a book by Pastor Michael Todd. You want to
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  Speaker 6: turn it into a film.
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 7: One of my greatest inspirations as a producer is my
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  Speaker 7: brother Will Packer, and and I saw what he did
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  Speaker 7: with Steve Harvey's book, Think like a Man. I said,
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  Speaker 7: wait a minute, This Relationship Goes book has so many
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  Speaker 7: great principles. Why don't we do that that with this?
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  Speaker 7: And so that was the inspiration. And then also what
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  Speaker 7: was so cool is when Pastor Todd released the book.
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  Speaker 7: He put it out during the pandemic, and as an author,
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  Speaker 7: when you can't tour that book usually doesn't work. He
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  Speaker 7: did everything virtually. It went to number one on the
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  Speaker 7: New York Times bestsellers list, and when you look at
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  Speaker 7: how people were responding and how many.
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  Speaker 1: Lives are being changed.
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  Speaker 7: I just thought it was the great foundation for a
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  Speaker 7: romantic comedy.
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  Speaker 3: Break down what the movie's about for people that haven't
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  Speaker 3: seen it or haven't seen the trail as.
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  Speaker 8: Yet without giving it away.
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  Speaker 7: Well, basically, you know, Kelly plays Leah, Meth plays Jared,
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  Speaker 7: and they have a history, but in the present moment
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  Speaker 7: of the story, they're competing for the same job, and
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  Speaker 7: Meth that comes up with the idea they're in the
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  Speaker 7: news world, and Meth that comes up with the idea
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  Speaker 7: his character, Jared comes up with the idea, Hey, why
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  Speaker 7: don't we do a story on the book relationship goals
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  Speaker 7: for Valentin exactly exactly, and then that begins everyone in
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  Speaker 7: the group beginning to think about their aim and think
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  Speaker 7: about their love life and think about their relationships. So
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  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna give it away, but that's kind of
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  Speaker 7: the catalyst for the movie.
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  Speaker 9: Absolutely, how do y'all go?
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  Speaker 6: This is random? But the song complicated? Like the song
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  Speaker 6: is dope? Well, what made y'all want to go do
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  Speaker 6: a song?
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  Speaker 2: So early? With that part in the contract? Okay, we
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  Speaker 2: got care they got to do a No, it just happened.
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  Speaker 5: Like, you know, I got the script, I read the script,
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  Speaker 5: I was inspired, went into the studio was I've been
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  Speaker 5: working on music, so I literally just started writing from
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  Speaker 5: Leah's perspective myself and Jesse Rayes and then it came
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  Speaker 5: out and then I sent it to DeVaughn and Anne
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  Speaker 5: Raspberry over at Amazon. I was like, I wonder if
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  Speaker 5: it'll work, and it just kind of worked. I said
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  Speaker 5: it to Meth and he was like, yeah, let me
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  Speaker 5: let me do this.
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  Speaker 6: Have either y'all been in that situation in real life
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  Speaker 6: where you got to do business with somebody that you
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  Speaker 6: was in a relationship.
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  Speaker 4: With that would.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, it just kind of happened, that's all.
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  Speaker 1: It just kind of happened.
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  Speaker 8: Is there any aspects of the characters' lives that relate
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  Speaker 8: to y'all real life?
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  Speaker 9: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 5: I mean I think the way Leah has when you
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  Speaker 5: meet her, she's holding onto everything.
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  Speaker 9: She's so in control, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that for her, like when she has
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  Speaker 5: control of everything, she's feeling like I got this, and
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  Speaker 5: she does, and she does, but she also is dealing
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  Speaker 5: with a whole bunch of internal stuff.
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  Speaker 9: Grief is a big one for her, you know what
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  Speaker 9: I mean.
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  Speaker 5: And it's kind of like drifting into everything else in
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  Speaker 5: her life and you see how it plays a big
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  Speaker 5: role in her decision making and everything. It's really interesting.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, that I definitely understood.
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  Speaker 3: Just What's the one thing I told you about it?
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  Speaker 3: As soon as I started watching What's the first thing?
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  Speaker 4: I tell you? What I tell.
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  Speaker 9: You in the wardrobe?
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, what I say you did say?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't say that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, he couldn't help, but he loved the wardrobe of
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  Speaker 8: lev and he was like, well you you showed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I said the wardrobe was dope.
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  Speaker 3: The suit remedy of it was powerful, but it gave
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  Speaker 3: me like a little Janet Jackson with it too, the
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  Speaker 3: way to change.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it was just dope. I've never seen. You don't
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  Speaker 4: really see shows usually the wardrobe was cheap, but it
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  Speaker 4: seemed like they put a lot into it. I'll show
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  Speaker 4: it was dope.
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  Speaker 9: Was that your idea?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 9: Did you style yourself for the movie?
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  Speaker 2: Addressed me?
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  Speaker 5: Because because Devon is a producer and he so graciously
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  Speaker 5: allowed me to ep on this project as well, I
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  Speaker 5: was like, Divna, I have some I literally showed him
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  Speaker 5: a picture board. You know what I mean of how
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  Speaker 5: I saw every everybody and all the characters, and so
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  Speaker 5: you know, he obliged and allowed us to just have
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  Speaker 5: a little bit of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, she killed it.
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  Speaker 7: I mean our wardrobe, our costume designer was named Gersha Phillips,
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  Speaker 7: and so but you know, Kelly, you know, would just
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  Speaker 7: be sending pictures and then also use all her relationships
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  Speaker 7: in the fashion world.
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  Speaker 1: That was It was dope wardrobe. Yeah, thankfully we didn't
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  Speaker 1: have to pay for all of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we gave you marry stuff, but was great.
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  Speaker 10: What do the power suits mean for Kelly as an actress?
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  Speaker 10: Because I know Mia Copa it was all about the
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  Speaker 10: power suits and the silhouttes as well too. And then
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  Speaker 10: I see you here again And that was a personal decision.
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  Speaker 10: So like, as an actor, like what are you saying
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  Speaker 10: to the people that are watching you by choosing to
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  Speaker 10: be specific about that?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think that women are powerful, and I
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  Speaker 5: think it should be unapologetic. And sometimes it does start
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  Speaker 5: with like how you feel on the outside, your wardrope
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  Speaker 5: on the outside, because when somebody sees you all put together,
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  Speaker 5: they're like, okay, I.
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  Speaker 9: Got to step up, you know.
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  Speaker 5: So for me, it was just like stepping up, whether
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  Speaker 5: it's for myself or expecting others to step up as well.
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  Speaker 5: So I feel like, you know, you got to put
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  Speaker 5: on to like really sometimes it's like when it's not
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  Speaker 5: here immediately you have to put on.
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  Speaker 9: But I feel like that, thank you. So I wanted
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  Speaker 9: my character to make sure she felt.
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  Speaker 10: Like that, because once we start peeling back the layers
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  Speaker 10: of your character, I feel like she was she was
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  Speaker 10: trying to learn how to accept love in so many
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  Speaker 10: different ways about the movie. Correct, but you show up
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  Speaker 10: as like you don't even talk to me, like you
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  Speaker 10: can't sit.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, it's a shield. It's a bit of a shield.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 5: The shield was just walls, just layers and layers of everything.
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  Speaker 5: But that's even deep. So we don't want to give
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  Speaker 5: away that that too much there either.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, did you get comfortable with acting? Because you know,
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  Speaker 3: looking at you never comfortable, it looks it looks so comfortable.
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  Speaker 3: Now you don't look like a rapper.
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  Speaker 2: Now I see you as comfortable. You get lazy, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so I like to explore outside my comfort zone. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't think I'm ever going to be comfortable
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  Speaker 2: with acting really.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I don't think you should be right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think you should be.
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  Speaker 2: Then you get drawn the roles emotionally or creatively, both both.
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  Speaker 2: This one was more emotionally. I see Jared as a
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  Speaker 2: man going through a transition. He's thinking more along the
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  Speaker 2: lines of legacy, you know, leaving something behind, having something
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  Speaker 2: that really shows meaning to fulfill himself. And he I
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  Speaker 2: think that when this job opportunity comes up, yes, I
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  Speaker 2: mean that is a great way to start. But oh,
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  Speaker 2: Leo works there as well. This is a sign and
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  Speaker 2: it's something that he could either take advantage of and
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  Speaker 2: the mom or you know, stay focused on what the
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  Speaker 2: prize is, which he thought was the job, but it
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  Speaker 2: was actually Leah.
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  Speaker 6: That's what the movie because it's like it talks about
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  Speaker 6: expectations versus reality and like these modern relationships, Like where
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  Speaker 6: do you think people get the most unrealistic expectations from?
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  Speaker 9: Is it social media?
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  Speaker 5: Y'all talk about it all the time, don't try it?
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  Speaker 9: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 5: And ps I think that social media and everybody actually
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  Speaker 5: believe in the hype, like they've done a fine job
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  Speaker 5: of just adding fuel to the fire. So to me,
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  Speaker 5: I think that we have an obligation, especially now for
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  Speaker 5: this next generation that's looking at us like thinking that
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  Speaker 5: it's just also great and we have to peel back layers.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that this movie does a really great
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  Speaker 5: job of peeling back layers and being honest in that way.
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  Speaker 5: I actually love the fact that Pastor Michael Todd named
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  Speaker 5: the book relationship, because that's the draw and that's where
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  Speaker 5: people are like, what the heck is a relationship?
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  Speaker 9: You know? What does that look like?
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  Speaker 5: It's actually something for you to define what it is
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  Speaker 5: because I'm not somebody else. I'm not a decision making
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  Speaker 5: somebody else, you know what I mean. I'm making decisions
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  Speaker 5: for me and somebody else, me and this other person.
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  Speaker 5: I'm making decisions and figuring out our relationship. I can't
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  Speaker 5: bite that. That come with a whole other set of trauma,
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  Speaker 5: whole another set of issues, who another set of everything else.
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  Speaker 5: So I can't make that my relationship go. I don't
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  Speaker 5: know what the background is.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like everyone wants to live in their purpose
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  Speaker 2: sometimes they just don't know what it is, and when
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  Speaker 2: they watch movies like this or even social media, they
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  Speaker 2: live vicariously through the people they connect with, and it's
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  Speaker 2: always going to be someone who wants to keep up
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  Speaker 2: with the Joneses, but there are very few Joneses. They
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  Speaker 2: want to keep up with anybody. So when you find
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  Speaker 2: yourself in these spaces where you want to live that
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  Speaker 2: fantasy and have that happy ending and shit, and it
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  Speaker 2: turns out not to be that happy ending, you have
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  Speaker 2: to bear with that and then move on, and that's it.
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  Speaker 4: Can you have relationship in the workplace now?
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  Speaker 1: Though?
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  Speaker 5: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Because I look at these movies and I always say,
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  Speaker 3: if my son works somewhere, I would that's where he's
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  Speaker 3: going to meet somebody, right Because you're at your job
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  Speaker 3: eight to nine hours a day, so that's where you're
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  Speaker 3: most likely to meet somebody.
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  Speaker 4: But in the society they tell you that you can't
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  Speaker 4: work with somebody that you have a relationship with.
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  Speaker 5: Me.
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  Speaker 4: Can that happen?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you can meet I mean I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I can't.
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  Speaker 8: When you're working somewhere and you mess with somebody, it's
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  Speaker 8: cute at first, but then when things turn, I gotta
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  Speaker 8: come to work and I gotta se this nigga a
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  Speaker 8: break worm I got.
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  Speaker 2: That morning.
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  Speaker 8: So to your own discretion, I feel like it can
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  Speaker 8: be done. When when two people know what they want,
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  Speaker 8: when they know how to clearly distinguished business from you know,
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  Speaker 8: work from our personal you know, when we're at work,
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  Speaker 8: we are co workers.
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  Speaker 9: You gotta treat you, you gotta be a line of boundaries.
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  Speaker 9: I think you make an excellent points.
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  Speaker 7: You just have to also, you know, use discretion because
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  Speaker 7: also in the movie their colleague. Yeah, you know, it's
• 10:01
  Speaker 7: not like one is higher than the other. And I
• 10:03
  Speaker 7: think you just have to be very very mindful of
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  Speaker 7: your position professionally when you're making a decision on you know,
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  Speaker 7: who to date in the workplace and how to date
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  Speaker 7: that person. But really thinking with discretion and integrity is
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  Speaker 7: important because once that's gone, you know, everythink and is
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  Speaker 7: up for grabs at that point.
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  Speaker 6: So how did the movie challenge or even affirm your
• 10:21
  Speaker 6: own beliefs about love?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I when it comes to grief, Like I
• 10:31
  Speaker 5: understood my character holding it together because remember like right
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  Speaker 5: after I had tightened, that's when my mom passed, So
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  Speaker 5: I didn't realize like I was like trying to keep
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  Speaker 5: it together. So I remember when we shot the scene that.
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  Speaker 9: Day, I was like I literally was like.
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  Speaker 5: Like not letting it go before because I felt like
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  Speaker 5: I felt that so tough because we are like a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people are dealing with but you don't know
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  Speaker 5: that it comes in ways. And so I love the
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  Speaker 5: way Regina Hall talks about ry, Regina King talks about it.
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  Speaker 9: It's so honest and just really authentic.
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  Speaker 5: And when she said it, I completely understood that it's
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  Speaker 5: actually in my notebook, My relationship goes journal a notebook.
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  Speaker 5: Her quotes that she was talking about dealing with greed,
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  Speaker 5: but I just let it all go. So I understood
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  Speaker 5: that with her for sure. And as it equates to love,
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  Speaker 5: what about you left one?
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  Speaker 2: How did it affirm? Man? Watch the movie? Though?
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  Speaker 7: For me, what I love in the movie is, you know,
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  Speaker 7: all the main characters, you know, are reading the book
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  Speaker 7: and wrestling with what it means for them. And one
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  Speaker 7: of the biggest tenets in the books is fixing your
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  Speaker 7: aim and knowing what you're shooting at. And so for me,
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  Speaker 7: what I love about the movie is like, I believe,
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  Speaker 7: I really, sincerely believe love is the most powerful force
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  Speaker 7: in the universe, absolutely, and I think that it's really
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  Speaker 7: easy in our culture to get center about it, especially
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  Speaker 7: when you go through things and difficulties and challenges in
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  Speaker 7: the area of love, dating and relationships. But For me,
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  Speaker 7: it was about we got to keep this area of hope.
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  Speaker 7: This is an area where people hurt so much. So
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  Speaker 7: for me personally, making the movie was like, this is good,
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  Speaker 7: it's therapeutic. It's positive to put this out there that
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  Speaker 7: we can't give up on love. I believe it, especially
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  Speaker 7: as a man. I think it's important for us as men.
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  Speaker 7: And when you see you know his character, Jared's character
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  Speaker 7: in The Mess, character in the film named Jared. He's
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  Speaker 7: a man who believes in love. He has a past
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  Speaker 7: and he's reckoned with that past, and he's making amends
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  Speaker 7: for that past. But one of the things that the
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  Speaker 7: book does is reminds him that love is the aim.
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  Speaker 7: And I just think that that's something that I.
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  Speaker 3: Wanted to put in the culture right now, said, how
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  Speaker 3: do you shut down though, right because you guys do
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  Speaker 3: so many projects, you are on tour, you do so
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  Speaker 3: many different things, you do so many different things. How
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  Speaker 3: do you shut down for that love at home? You know,
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  Speaker 3: because you still got to work, but then you still
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  Speaker 3: got a home life that you got to make sure
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  Speaker 3: the home is good.
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  Speaker 2: How do y'all two separate worlds? I think home life
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  Speaker 2: is more in reality for me, I can't speak for
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  Speaker 2: everybody whose life is grounded more in reality. For me,
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: all this shit is TV. Period.
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  Speaker 3: You ever have to shut that TV down to make
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  Speaker 3: sure you spend that quality time that we forget about.
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  Speaker 2: When I'm outside, I'm outside, When I'm indoors, m that's
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  Speaker 2: a totally different energy. So I know how to separate
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  Speaker 2: the two, you know, but there are I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather be inside than outside at this point in
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  Speaker 2: my life, so you know, but I do know how
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  Speaker 2: to separate the two. Not saying it always works. Something
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  Speaker 2: has to suffer in the end. Kelly can definitely speak
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  Speaker 2: to that. You know, some one thing's going to be
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  Speaker 2: imbalanced and the other is gonna you know whatever. But
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  Speaker 2: you learn to deal with it. You learn to move forward,
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  Speaker 2: and you learn to say, this is what our life
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  Speaker 2: is and we have to accept that. I'm glad you
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: said that, because work life balance is a myth.
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  Speaker 9: No, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 5: And then you put all the other variables in which
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: you are in it, and you're like, oh, today motherhood
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  Speaker 5: is my priority. It's like, oh, well, I haven't spent
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: any time with him. I need to go spend time. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: So Tim is a priority today. Oh I need to
• 14:08
  Speaker 5: get back to this project.
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  Speaker 9: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: So music is like everything, like Trump's the other one. Everything, everything,
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  Speaker 5: everything is more of a priority than others on certain days.
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  Speaker 5: I just think that, like you, like you said, it's
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  Speaker 5: no such thing as a balance. You're just figuring out
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  Speaker 5: which one is the priority that day.
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  Speaker 7: No, I was just going to say, so. I think
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  Speaker 7: it's also integration because even when you're busy and your way,
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  Speaker 7: consideration if you prioritize that, and consideration can just be
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  Speaker 7: a text yes, thinking about you, babe, look at this.
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  Speaker 9: You know.
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  Speaker 7: It's just always keeping your relationship with priority mentally and emotionally, spiritually,
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  Speaker 7: and even when you're not there, that will then produce
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  Speaker 7: different forms of consideration. And that's that's how you do it,
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  Speaker 7: because there's there is no.
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  Speaker 5: In real life. No. Literally, before I left the house,
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: like the other morning to come here, I did what
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  Speaker 5: do you call it? Posted like post it notes, like
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: in the closet, like in Tim's closet, and like just
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: to remind them, like have a great day of school today.
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  Speaker 5: You give it like about all that stuff is really important.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: It definitely sells the sea consideration.
• 15:23
  Speaker 9: Go ahead, go.
• 15:30
  Speaker 8: With the Vaughn specifically, what do you believe is the
• 15:32
  Speaker 8: healthiest balance of using faith and therapy to seek love?
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I couldn't.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 15:51
  Speaker 7: Listen, they both work together, but they're both separate, right.
• 15:56
  Speaker 7: I believe that anybody who has found love or wants
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: love has to have faith because it is a miracle
• 16:04
  Speaker 7: on a planet with billions of people that two people
• 16:07
  Speaker 7: can find each other and make the decision to do
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: life together.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: That is like a miracle.
• 16:12
  Speaker 7: So you got to have a level of faith, even
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: if you don't realize it, because if you're on an
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: app or you're going out, you're having a faith that
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: one day I'm going to find a person that's going
• 16:20
  Speaker 7: to be my partner. So that's faith to me. When
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: it comes to therapy, therapy is about the trauma, right
• 16:26
  Speaker 7: and and and most of us have had a lot
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: of trauma in this area of love, dating and relationships.
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: So I do believe that in order to be a
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: great partner and just a great person, therapy is important.
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: You know, I got into therapy what six seven years ago?
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: And what it does?
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: My kids are watching there.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: You go for the coach, you but for me.
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: But what you don't realize is you think like, oh,
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: I'm good, but you don't realize when you get into therapy,
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: you realize that, oh wow, there's some wounds. And then
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: what you don't realize when you don't do therapy, then
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: you bleed on your partner and then get you want
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: them to be your therapist. And for me personally, I
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: had to work on what my wounds were, getting that
• 17:13
  Speaker 7: type of healing so then I can be a better individual,
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: better partner. So I think they work together, but they
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: definitely are are individual pursuits.
• 17:20
  Speaker 8: How do you know you need therapy because that's a
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: lot of people, Like you said, you don't even know
• 17:24
  Speaker 8: that you need it until I guess you're in a situation.
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, if you're breathing, you need it period because everybody's
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: been through some trauma, some challenges and difficulties.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: And you can't figure that stuff out on your own.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: Here you are trying to unravel a ball that's steady
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: weaving itself, you know what I mean, Like the particular
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: space in which you've had the trauma, and then it's
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: something else that is an extension of it, and it
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: weaves itself, you know what I mean.
• 17:53
  Speaker 9: And it's a trigger, you know what I mean.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: So you're trying to figure out how to battle the
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: trigger on top of a trigger, on top of the trigger,
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: on top of the base of the trauma. So it's
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: like you're constantly trying to figure out.
• 18:04
  Speaker 9: That is exhausting.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Like we're supposed to be living life abundant, you know,
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: and enjoyed joy and like actually excited about trying to
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: figure that stuff out for ourselves first, because like he said,
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: you're gonna bleed over the other person.
• 18:16
  Speaker 9: That is even more painful.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: Because you you you love yourself, but you you've decided
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: to love this person the way you love God. And
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: I'm not trying to bleed all over you like that.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: Man, What about when the person is dealing with all
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: types of trauma and they telling you that, you know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: you got to love me to wear God love me.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: But god love is unconditional. How when do you know
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: when to back away?
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: I mean, I ain't going through that, but I don't
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't divine.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna call my brother, like listen, listen.
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: God's love is for sure unconditional, and we as human beings.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Aspire to that.
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: But everybody has a breaking point, and only you know
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: when you've hit that breaking point. And sometimes the greatest
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: act of love is to make the decision. You know, hey,
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: I love you so much that I can acknowledge that
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: we've done as much as we can do. So that's
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: that's not that's not a that's not a lack of love.
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: Sometimes it takes even more love to do that. But
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: each person will know when, when, and if you ever
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: get to that breaking point.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Prod the film Did you know Meth and Kelly Roland
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: was the perfect match with this?
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: No, you know, I didn't. What was What was cool
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: is I've been developing this script for years. Uh you know,
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: really whenever I'm making a movie, you know, a movie
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: is only as good as a script. So this script
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: just took a little longer to get right because you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: Pastor Todd's book is a book of advice, it's not
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: a narrative. So we literally had to create the story
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: from scratch. And so by the time I got the
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: script right, and then I'd hired Linna Mendoza to direct
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: the movie, and she's a really you know, amazing promise
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: it comedy director, and so I was like, Okay, who
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: can do this? And I talked to Amazon. I was
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: like Kelly Rowland. So Kelly and I had had lunch
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: right before me a Kulpa came out and so I
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: got a sense of what it is she wanted to do,
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: and so I sent it to her and over the
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: weekend and in twenty four hours she read it and
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: she's like I'm in. I'm like bet So I let
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: Amazon know, Yo, we got Kelly. They're like, no, let's
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: do it. So we started the process of making the
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: movie and we started, you know, seeing a lot of
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: guys to play Jair. We looked at probably one hundred
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: different dudes.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Yea, and it did Anne but Raspberry our executive and
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Amazon said, hey, what about met the Man?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, we met like ten years ago,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: been talking about trying to do something. So we sent
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: him the script. He loved it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: He came in on a chemistry read with Kelly and
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: within two minutes we were like, all right, back there
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: it is. And so it just it just organically, you know,
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: came out this way. And to me, it's like the
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: thing about them and I'll say this with them here
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: is like you may see, like you know, talent that
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: came from the music industry. I want to be very clear,
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: these are two of Hollywood's greatest actors. When you talk
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: about their preparation, I mean, look like he Mett cares
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: so much about his lines. There was one scene we
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: were in the car and he just kept loubbing one
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: line and he would not stop until.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: He got it perfect. These are two consummate professionals.
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: The way they prepared, the way they got into character,
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: the way they they were ambassadors on set, You're not
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: just seeing two music icons coming together. You're really seeing
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: two of Hollywood's I think leading men and leading women
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: coming together.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: Did that come from from like wanting to get the
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: bar right?
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: You want to hit a rhythm, you know what I mean? Yeah,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: And I just wasn't feeling it, so I wanted to
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: get it absolutely right. And I mean, if you guys
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: have seen the movie, I Leading Ladies fantastic. Yes she is,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: and she carries this film big time. Some of my
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: favorite scenes are I told her this myself. Some of
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: my favorite scenes are with you and the girls. Just
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: that whole camaraderie feels genuine when doesn't feel thrown together,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: and it was real. So kudos, you know you know, just.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Try out for a partner. Bring that up because.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: She was great. It was great. Of course I've seen it. Yes,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I would not.
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: I would not if.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: The experience just when you don't get the part, sometimes
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: it's just you don't fit the suit.
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: Did divine in this movie? Right?
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: You use met the man's character to really have a
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: conversation about like how we look at men or don't
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: allow them to grow and vulnerability when it comes to love. Right,
• 22:51
  Speaker 10: what was probably the most important conversation You wanted people
• 22:54
  Speaker 10: to want women to walk away with from seeing his character.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Because you know this.
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: Is probably this is probably you know, a hard one,
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: but you asked the question that men can't change.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Men can change.
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: But like, like when you look at the movie, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: everybody watched the movie. It comes out on Amazon Prime
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: February fourth, and so when you see this film, you'll
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: see that Jared and.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Leah have a past.
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: He's made some mistakes, but he is serious amount of
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: toning for those mistakes and he gets the book relationship
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: goals and it has principles in it that really help
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: him recognize how much of a you know, of less
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: than a man and a dog he was, and that
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: he's reformed. And so I think when you watch this movie,
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: Leah has a choice. Do I believe him? Can I
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: trust it? And part of that is seeing his behavior
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: and evaluating that, and the other part of it is
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: having faith and seeing. So that is one of when
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: we talk about the male character, one of the greatest things.
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: The take away is like, a man can change. Now
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: now you know, I know in our culture everybody wants
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: to say, well, no, no man. Once a man's no,
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: a man can change, and a man can be remorseful.
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: In this movie, I wanted to show that, you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: as men, as as black men, we can go through things,
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: we can make mistakes, we can.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Right are wrongs.
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: And he's he's the one that brings the book into
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: the movie, so he's a reader, he's he's.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Trying to better himself.
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: So I really wanted to have a character that can
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: embody all of that and hopefully people, you know, walk
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: away from the film saying, all right, you know what,
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: let me let me not just close myself off to
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: love and let me not just say this person is
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: how they're always going to be.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Let me give us some time to see.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Vulnerability is still so hard for men.
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: To fully embrace so deeply.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: D I like that because you got to give something away.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: It feels like you have to give something away, You
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: have to sacrifice a part of yourself and shit to
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: be vulnerable, and especially when you're out. Let's just put
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: it this way. By when we leave out of our
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: homes and we go into our workforce, we're dealing. We're
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: battling all day long, battling for position, whatever it is,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: whatever it is, your kick is, and then we want
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: to get home the same way a police officer does
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: after his shift. When he goes to work, there's the
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: stress of the day. I may be killed today, you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: same thing with a man this day. I may be
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: fired this day, or my company may go under this day.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: But when he comes home, he wants to have peace,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: comfort and everything that comes with that. This is where
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: he can be vulnerable because his woman is, who he's
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: involved with, or whatever your significant other is. They're there
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: to comfort that person and tell him you did all
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: of that just so you can be here and do
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: this now. Relax. I got you that kind of thing.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: So this is where you want to be vulnerable at
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: because you have no other place to be vulnerable yeah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, and still it's just like what your sacrificing
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: in that moment is maybe this woman is gonna look
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: at me like, you know, I'm a little soft or whatever.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: But no, any woman that could look at that vulnerability
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: and thinks softness is not for you. If anything, she's
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: looking at you. It's I hate to equate it to this,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: but I've seen a report us seeing this investigation about
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: dogs and a dog using the bathroom around its owner.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Dogs don't use the bathroom like. They're very skeptical about
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: where they go because they're vulnerable in that moment. So
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: they have to honestly trust you in order to take
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: a poop in front of you. So when you get
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: to a point in your relationship where you could poop
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: with the door open and your significant others right there
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: brushing their teeth, vulnerability right there.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Boom.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrap that up in a nice little.
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: Going back to what you what you said the moment
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: we were talking about mink and change and they can
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, Like Jared's character, he was
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: a dog, you know what I mean? He did some
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: you know, I'm just at he had hurt her, You
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: know what I mean. But on the other side of it,
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: a woman can she's hurt from that, she can carry
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: that and become bitter and not even realize this is bitter,
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying.
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: So how do you how do you even notice.
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: That you're bitter and that you actually could be so
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: bitter from what happened to you back then that you're
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: blocking yourself from love, from what you want, Like you
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: got the list and everything, you know what you want,
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: but you're blocking blessing because you are bitter from what
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: happened to you way back.
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I think in the movie, you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: the bitterness on some level shows up in the form
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: of Leah's list. The list seems like a great thing, right,
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: she has all these attributes of what she wants in
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: her partner. But what it does is it mass insecurity
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: and the idea if I can just get this list,
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: then I won't get hurt.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: And and this is.
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: The probably the hardest thing when it comes to love,
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: to your point about vulnerability. When you love and you
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: open up your heart, you open up your heart to help,
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: but you open up your heart to hurt as well.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: And the.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Admission price for love is faith.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: You have to be open, because if you're not open,
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: you're never going to receive it and you can't give it.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: So to your point, like, how do you know if
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: you're bitter? How do you what's your emotional disposition when
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: you wake up in the morning. Are you in peace?
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: Are you enjoyed? Are you optimistic?
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: And for me chose those are choices.
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: Those are choices, and and for me, I'm like, you know, when,
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: especially when you watch the movie, I'm like, man, I
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: don't we all go.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Through heartbreak, we all go through difficult things.
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: But you can get to love when you practice that love,
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: when you make the choice to be that love, that joy,
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: that happiness. And so over the course of the movie,
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: you see Leah, you know, grappling with that, and over
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: the course of the film she starts to realize, like,
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: wait a minute, I got to open up my heart.
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: I'm too closed off to it, and I think that
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: that's probably one of the hardest things to do. But
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: on the other side of it, when you get love,
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: you know, excess, it's none of this matters. And in
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: my opinion, this is all fine. But when you have love,
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: when you have the right person, and you can share
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: your heart and your home and your health with That's
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: what life is about. And so you know, I would
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: advise anybody watch this film and really allow yourself to
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: identify what are the areas in your heart that you're hurting.
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: And and here's the other last thing I'll saying, It's
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: okay to hurt. Like in the movie, Leah hurts, and
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: so often we.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Don't want to hurt. We just want to fast forward
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: through the hurt.
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: No sit in it, feel it, because when you feel,
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: that's when you can heal.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: And that's what you see in this movie.
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: And then on the other side of that feeling and
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: that healing is love waiting, and that, to me is
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: one of the greatest things about this film is that
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: it is It is entirely optimistic. It's not a pessimistic film.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: It's a film that will anybody, no matter what status
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: of relationship you're in, you can watch it and take
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: something from it that I believe e will help you
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: in your love life.
• 30:02
  Speaker 10: Kelly, I had a question, so piggybacking up both of
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: those conversations, right you. I watched the you and met
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: them and interview each other for ET and you were
• 30:09
  Speaker 10: talking about I think he actually like, what was your
• 30:11
  Speaker 10: favorite thing that, like your husband does for you or
• 30:13
  Speaker 10: something like that, and you said, just the way he
• 30:14
  Speaker 10: loves on me and my son. But you also said
• 30:16
  Speaker 10: you're still learning how to receive that love.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, therapy. It all goes back to therapy.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: I'm still I'm still learning how to receive that. And
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: by the way, I think that people like, well, you
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: once you get married, you figure it out, Like hell
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: you do, You're still trying to figure it out in marriage,
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It's like why I think that,
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: you know, fixing your aim, you know, before you get married,
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: is also a really great goal because then you get
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: to work some things out, you know what I mean.
• 30:45
  Speaker 9: Like I knew that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: Tim was my husband, I didn't know that I was
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: going to run into so many different things that were
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: triggers for me, you know what I mean, like like
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: how to love him, Oh my god, some but like
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: how to love him the way he deserves Like I
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: want to love him the way he deserves to be
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: loved because he loves me that way, and he's figuring out,
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: thank you, he's figuring out things in his way, and
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: how to love me as well, and we're constantly evolving,
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: so we're not going to get it right every time.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: We've been together since I was twenty six. I'm forty
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: five now, so it's like, yeah, thank you, thank you,
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: but it's like us figuring out how to do that
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: the right way for each other.
• 31:25
  Speaker 9: And that's why I'm in therapy.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: You don't speak enough about how women misty blessings looking
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: for height they can get a short king because.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: You're saying my husband is almost like we're almost the same. Him.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: That wasn't me that said that right now is well,
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: here's the thing I understop it. You can find a
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: great king because he's a great king. But it was
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: for me. I did have that list. I had a
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: crazy list. I actually found that list before. Yes I did.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: I did I have a list list. Oh you know,
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: twenty I knew exactly I thought I knew what I wanted.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: But Tim gave me what I needed. And I think
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: that that was the difference. I was saying that the
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: other day, like I didn't know. I was so busy
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: writing down what I wanted. I didn't know what I needed.
• 32:21
  Speaker 9: And I think that experience makes you realize what you need.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: I think that you know, as you're dating, you know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: and figuring everything out, you can write everything down, Like
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: I'll never forget this.
• 32:31
  Speaker 9: One time I was crying after a breakup.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: And just in my head in my hands and being
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: walks in and she goes, why are you crying? And
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: I said because She's like, but tell me why are
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: you crying?
• 32:46
  Speaker 9: And I said, I don't know.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: She was like, what you need to be doing is
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: take an inventory of what you did like about this
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: situation so you'll be ready for the next one.
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: And I was like, Mars, like it was. It was
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: so good.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: And literally I stopped crying in that moment because I
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: realized that what I was crying, I didn't even know
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: why I was. It was the hype that I just
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: lost a boyfriend, you know what I mean. And we
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: get lost in that kind of sauce sometimes, like you
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: have to actually start to take inventory and strategize on
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: what it is that you need.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: So what's the difference between compromise and self betrayal in relationships?
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: Then when you have a list, how do you know
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: when you're compromising? You just betraying yourself.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: I mean I didn't feel like I was compromising anything
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: I think that's a self thing, like I wanted to
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: I just wanted to be honest with myself, you know
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: what I mean. And I was just going from that.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: I wasn't thinking about compromising anything as much as it was.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I just I like the way he speaks to me.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: I love the way he makes me feel when I'm
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: around him. I love the fact that he took up
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: from me and nobody's taking up for me. Like literally,
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: I say, and I'll say it to this day. Tim
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: is the greatest man I've ever known, Like cause you
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: got to remember, I got my daddy issues, you know
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: what I mean, And until I met my dad a
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: couple of years back, like, I didn't know what how
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: messy that was and what kind of guy I was
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: supposed to choose. I wasn't supposed to choose a Tim,
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. He was supposed to walk
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: past me. But I thought more of myself to choose
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: a good man.
• 34:23
  Speaker 10: I saw you talk about your relationship with your dad
• 34:25
  Speaker 10: and kind of you know how you being a mom
• 34:28
  Speaker 10: has like you know how that balance has been, But
• 34:30
  Speaker 10: what has your relationship with Tim been like since you
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: like having that stronger relationship with your dad.
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: Oh, it's been great, it's been great.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: He By the way, Tim was very protective, just transparently
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: speaking of me meeting my dad, you know what I mean.
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: And I had to talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: He was protective of me meeting my dad because he's
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: just like, I don't know what this is going to
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: open up for her, you know what I mean.
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: It was him thinking about it like that. But they
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: get along few beautifully, you know.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: And you wanted that, you wanted that I did.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: I did, and I needed to see like where my
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: roots are from.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: Do you know?
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: When I met my dad, I realized where I got
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: singing from, which was his mother. His mother was a
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: background singer for Lena Horn.
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: And Count Basie. I didn't know any of that.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: So I got these beautiful gems and didn't know what
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: the other side of me was. And then I look
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: at Noah's face. No it looked just like his mama,
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: my dad's mom. And it's just amazing to me because
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: what if I would have closed that off. That's why
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: forgiveness is a real thing. And I remember speaking to
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: my big brother about going to talk to my dad
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: and he was.
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: Like, look, it's love you either jump or you don't period.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: See that growth? Yo.
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, with my sister talking about growth math, you know,
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: hip hop has changed. He talks about relationships over the years,
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: like where do you think we're growing?
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Where do you think we still stuck as far as
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: hip hop? Oh, it's a lot of work to still
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: be done, man. I mean it starts with a lot
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: of these gatekeepers trying to dictate what this new generation
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: should be doing, you know, because honestly, when we was
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: doing it, we had fun. We was having a lot
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: of fun. And what I can give this new generation
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: credit for is that they did a lot more business
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: than show and the show business part of it. You know,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: we're creating generational wealth and they're the babies of that.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: And I mean we could be in a way better place,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: especially with the message of course, And when I was
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: doing it back in the day, I mean we Bu
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Tang had a message. Regardless of whether you heard gunshots
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: or swords, there was still a message there. And I
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: think a lot of times the vibe gets lost for
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: the substance, the substance. There's no substance in the vibe.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: The vibe has no substance. And shit, and again I
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: can't knock these kids for liking what they like, but
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I just wish it was a bit more diversity, for
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: lack of a better word.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: But did the business hurt it?
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: You talk about the fund, you get things for funded
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: and business later, which was bad for pockets, But it
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: was natural.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about it.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: There was a level of emotional maturity that Mike had
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: had existed back then that maybe may not exist now
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: because like, even all I need that was that was
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: our relationship goal, right.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Everything in there, every line is what you want. Well,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I think that my generation read a lot more books.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: You know, we went outside, we touched dirt, you know,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: so experiences king and to be honest, you know, and
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: again this this generation, I'm not knocking anything they do
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: because they doing their numbers and it looks like they're
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: having fun. I can live vicariously through some of these youngers,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: you know. But again, substance, and you only think about
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: these things when you get my age. You want something
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: that matters, something that you could feel hold, embracing, you know,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: really cherished.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now I got to ask us they got to
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: leave it shortly. Two guys, when you were performing at
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: the ball plays or pretential, which was.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: Than I did.
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: That's what I said. No, I saw your face.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: It's a different Just don't play with me.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: No, but I saw her face and I lit up
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: because it was so nice to see, you know, because
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: Jess is always really kind and really cool and I
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: really appreciate it. So when I see her, it's warmth always.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Why Oh my.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: God, I'm so excited to see you.
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: Listen, my husband went crazy when you came out there.
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: I said, yeah, exactly, but he and said it like,
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: you know, that's Kelly.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: About talking about you all night and I love it.
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: I started talking about it with It's hard. She looked good,
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: congratulations on that, thank you killed it, and just loved it.
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: You look so good.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: All that love it.
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: What do y'all hold people to from this film that
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: they might not hear from their friends.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: Oh, I think they go hear from their friends. I
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: think what's interesting is when the movie goes off, is
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: so quiet, you know what I mean, like in this way,
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: and then it's like a chatter, you know what I mean,
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: and it's like, well, you know, it starts conversation. I
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: hope it provokes conversation yet and right so that it
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: like really encourages people to see the movie, see the message,
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: see these characters, and not just know it's like not
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: just about the Jared and Leah relationship. It's the girlfriends too,
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: the girlfriends, the story, Yeah, and our like how beautiful
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: it was that as relationship goes for even the friends
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: as well. That I don't want to give away too much,
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: but it's like the relationship with the girlfriends and everybody
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: that's involved. You see how relationship goes as a whole,
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: not just romantically. Are just really important And yeah, that's
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: that's what it is.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just want people to root for these
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: people in this film, root for their relationships as well.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and for me.
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's one of the few movies
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: that can actually change your life because when you look
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: at the YouTube series and the relationship goes YouTube series
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: and the relationship goes book change millions of people's lives
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: for the better. And the same principles in the book
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: in the YouTube series are in the movie. So I
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: think I want people to have a great experience. It's funny,
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: it's a great entertaining film with two of the greatest
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: actors on the planet, and it can actually make you
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: fix your aim in life and in love. And I
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: think that it's a rare thing where you can watch
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: a movie that entertains you, but it also makes you
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: think like, oh, shoot, there's some things I can actually
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: change and I can apply what I saw in the
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: film to my personal life.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: And then you're not getting enough credit, man, because you
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: know you wanted a few black men. That's not only
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: you know, getting things made, getting things green liit, you know,
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: casting a lot of black people, Like I don't think
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: you get enough credit for that. Franklin Entertainment, he's very active.
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: We see Davon a lot, especially in the past three years.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of thank you, thank you.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: But listen out today. Make sure you go get it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Go check it out on Prime Video. Relationship Goals. We
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: appreciate you for joining us, Devon Franklin at the Man,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Kelly Rowland, what's us?
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Appreciate y'all?
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: Hold every day a week ago, clake your glass up
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: the breakfast club.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: You're finished for y'all done.