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- 0:00Hi, welcome back to Hydroponics Daily with me, Dr. Russell Sharp.
- 0:04And I've chosen a subject today that I think a lot of hydroponic growers will
- 0:07be interested in, and that's fiber crops.
- 0:10And for a number of reasons, you'll be interested. Maybe you won't,
- 0:13maybe you will. Have a listen and see.
- 0:15So I used to work in the fashion department at De Montfort University in Leicester.
- 0:20That's one of my previous incarnations, one of my previous jobs.
- 0:23And the reason I worked in the fashion department was because I
- 0:26was doing a postdoctoral position looking at
- 0:28alternatives to cotton and obviously
- 0:31fibers turn into textiles and textiles turn into
- 0:34clothes hence the reason i was in the fashion department and
- 0:38i actually used to get joked about my fashion
- 0:41by the other people in the work in there they used to have a go at.
- 0:44My suits and ties when i used to have to wear a suit and a
- 0:46tie and the reason we were looking at alternatives to
- 0:49cotton is because at that point over a
- 0:52quarter of all the pesticides used in agriculture
- 0:55were used on cotton as a non-food crop
- 0:58that's crazy it's also grown in
- 1:01areas outside of europe and so brought in and so there's a sustainability
- 1:06issue and then where it's grown
- 1:09is very arid regions and the pesticides
- 1:12and the heavy metals get then the fertilizers build
- 1:15up in the landlocked lakes especially in places like china mongolia
- 1:20places like that and that causes a
- 1:23massive spike in cancer around those areas so very bad for
- 1:25the environment growing cotton there should be more environmentally friendly
- 1:29ways so using what we call bast crops
- 1:32to do that and they're called bast crops because
- 1:35unlike cotton the fibers don't grow
- 1:38in a bowl they're like a seed they grow in the stem and the beauty of cotton
- 1:44is that it produces single fibers these cotton fibers are long and thin and
- 1:48single fibers whereas bast crops they're inside the stem and they're in bundles
- 1:53and they're there to keep the plant rigid.
- 1:56So unlike a tree where they produce wood, a tall crop like a hemp plant or a
- 2:02nettle plant is able to grow to great heights because it contains bast fibres.
- 2:07They're like the reinforced concrete of the plant world.
- 2:11Now, if you want to get a textile out of these fibers, you have to turn them
- 2:16into single fibers or very small bundles.
- 2:20That's very difficult. And that involves either use of enzymes or more usually
- 2:25a process of controlled rotting in the field. And it's called retting.
- 2:31And that's where you let microbes degrade the
- 2:33stems to the point where they can be pulled apart by
- 2:37a specialized machine and and that's
- 2:41how you get the fibers out of the crops and
- 2:44so the crops were nettles we were looking at nettles
- 2:47we were planting fields full of nettles we had these special german nettles
- 2:50and the reason the germans had loads of
- 2:53nettles was because during the in
- 2:56the world wars they didn't obviously have access to the british
- 2:59and the american cotton and so which
- 3:03was coming from the british empire and so they had
- 3:06to look for alternatives and apparently nettles were really good for parachute
- 3:10cords and things like that where it had to be really strong and so
- 3:13these are the common stinging nettle was was it was a great one but there was
- 3:18also annual nettles anything but dead nettles dead nettles if you've ever seen
- 3:23them they're not related they're in the mint family i think and so nettles was
- 3:28a good one hemp obviously cannabis nettles and hemp are very very not.
- 3:33Really closely related not in the same genus they're not
- 3:36in the same family but those two families are in
- 3:39the same section of the
- 3:42the next order up of how plants are related so
- 3:45nettles are hemp very closely related that's why you get
- 3:48a lot of you can get things like you can get dioecious you get
- 3:51male and female nettles and you've got vast fibers you can get you've got lots
- 3:56of trichomes and in nettles they're the things that sting you and so very closely
- 4:00related very similar growth habits thrive on high nutrition and so nettles and
- 4:06hemp as I say very close related and the other one is flax so.
- 4:10I've forgotten the name, the scientific name for flax. It's been a few years
- 4:14since I've grown it. Linum, I think it is.
- 4:17And that's obviously got that scientific name because it creates linen.
- 4:21Now, linen was a textile that's used traditionally all around the world,
- 4:25but around here it's closely related with Northern Ireland, although there's
- 4:29very few flax growers left in Northern Ireland.
- 4:33But we weren't looking to recreate linen.
- 4:36We were looking to recreate cotton. so everything had to
- 4:39be related to back to to cotton and there
- 4:42are some other vast fiber crops out there such as
- 4:45new zealand flax and i think possibly yucca
- 4:48subject of our last topic and but the problem with
- 4:51these other ones is that the the textile that
- 4:54produce is produced is too rough and if
- 4:57you want a cotton alternative it has to be obviously has to be strong
- 5:00but it has to be you know easy to wear as
- 5:02well and so that's why nettles and
- 5:06hemp and flax were the chosen three and in fact there is a there's a species
- 5:11of nettle that grows in iran that's called urtica cannabina so it's called the
- 5:16cannabis nettle and that is actually being looked at as an as a as a new fiber crop,
- 5:23it's not related to hemp but it just looks a
- 5:26bit like it i think it grows like it and probably the fibers are very similar so
- 5:30we looked at controlling the the
- 5:33retting process the controlled rotting in the field and
- 5:37whether we could improve that by adding
- 5:40a microbial product to the fields so that it wasn't we weren't just relying
- 5:44on the bacteria that were already present in the field and we looked at using
- 5:49enzymes so conventionally available enzymes we looked at this bacteria that's
- 5:54got the best one of the best scientific names i've ever come across and it was geobacillus.
- 6:02Thermoglucosidaseus and it's been a good 20 years since i've ever worked with geobacillus,
- 6:08thermoglucosidaseus or even seen reference to it but i always remember
- 6:11it because it's such a crazy name it was this
- 6:14species that only grew when it was above like 60 degrees celsius and it's found
- 6:20around the world and yet in the soil and yet it doesn't grow when it's when
- 6:25it's not 60 degrees celsius and you're thinking how is this species of bacteria
- 6:31got all around the world it should just be,
- 6:33specifically only be able to grow around like hot springs
- 6:36and volcanoes and yet it's populated the soil all around
- 6:39the world so that really interested me and then there was the so we looked at
- 6:45enzymes things like lignases to break down lignin pectinases to break down pectin
- 6:50which is like you know the jam that holds the bass fibers together xylanases
- 6:54and so we can just focus and just get the,
- 6:57the cellulose because if we relied on the controlled retting all the time the
- 7:02problem was you go from controlled retting to just rotting and your whole crop
- 7:06could just disappear overnight if the conditions were too good for the retting
- 7:12process and you had to build up and we needed something that could be used by farmers without much.
- 7:17Knowledge or skill and then what ultimately is
- 7:20holds all these fiber crops back is not
- 7:23the ability for farmers to grow it and not the technology for growing it
- 7:26or even resting it it's just having the
- 7:30machinery in place for processing
- 7:33the fibers and then spinning it
- 7:36so having the the fiber the the machinery that pulls the fibers apart the mill
- 7:43and then the spinners and so that was that was a real there was like one one
- 7:48or two machines in the whole of the uk that could do this and then for the spinning
- 7:52we had to send all our samples off to.
- 7:55Italy which was great because we got to go to trips to italy and have
- 7:59like white truffle pasta while we were there it was great you know
- 8:01university jollies but the project went
- 8:04on for a while but then it seemed to peter out for a while other things
- 8:07to consider hemp and flax there's
- 8:11two different types there's the oil producing varieties and
- 8:14there's a fiber producing varieties and flax and
- 8:17hemp most of the focus recently has been on oil producing varieties
- 8:20but we need to keep the the gene banks
- 8:24there because you know we might want to return to the fibers later in you know
- 8:29in history as other sources of fibers disappear i think a lot of the work on
- 8:34hemp was done in the soviet union and there was a lot of hemp seed banks and gene banks,
- 8:41over in the soviet union where as i said the nettles that was primarily focused around germany.
- 8:47And also interesting about that was when i was when i
- 8:50was looking through these seed banks i decided i
- 8:53was i was bored one day and i went onto the
- 8:56tomato page of these and i saw one called
- 8:59i was looking at a load all the tomato seeds
- 9:02and i could see that if you were an academic you could get these seeds for free so
- 9:05it's like oh yeah great free tomato seeds so i was looking through
- 9:07all the different varieties i was going to choose and i saw
- 9:10one called the blaby special and it's like i've heard of blaby what's
- 9:13blaby and then someone was like blaby's in leicester it's a village in leicester
- 9:18and i was working in leicester so how is it and i did some more research and
- 9:21i found out that there used to be loads of tomatoes grown in blaby sent down
- 9:26to london just before the Second World War in the 1940s and 50s.
- 9:31And they had their own tomato variety called the Blaby Special.
- 9:35Went extinct so i got these seeds i grew them up and since then i've been invited
- 9:40back to blaby if you go into blaby there's tomatoes on on the actual village
- 9:45sign as you go in and like i'd go to the blaby tomato festival and i'd have
- 9:49to taste tomatoes and as as the resurrector of the tomatoes.
- 9:54And i hate tomatoes it's like raw
- 9:57tomatoes and one day i went with this absolute stinking hangover
- 10:00to the blaby tomato festival i had to eat tomatoes it was one of the worst mornings
- 10:03of my life and i see the pictures now that day and
- 10:06bright white got a white face look deathly ill
- 10:10eating a tomato so we did that and then yeah i was able to resurrect a few old
- 10:15tomato varieties for certain parts that don't grow them anymore because obviously
- 10:18in europe all our tomatoes now either come from commercial greenhouses at scale
- 10:23or or more more commonly from southern spain.
- 10:28And now morocco more more commonly so
- 10:32things like the manx marvel from the isle of man
- 10:34and the blaby special i was able to resurrect those so that was all thanks to
- 10:38the the fiber project it's called sting sustainable technology in nettle growing
- 10:44if you would like to grow fiber crops and you want some advice then please do
- 10:49get in touch as i say my expertise is in nettles with a bit in hemp and flax.
- 10:54Flax was a poor crop.
- 10:57It always got attacked by flea beetles, the flax flea beetle,
- 11:00and it was a very sparse crop, whereas hemp and nettles were better because
- 11:04they produced a really luscious and heavy crop, even if the oil crop wasn't there.
- 11:13So you could out-compete weeds so you didn't have to put any weed killers down.
- 11:18They didn't need any pesticides, unlike flax, which was attacked by the flea
- 11:22beetle and you just needed a bit of nitrogen and they would grow like crazy.
- 11:27And then another interesting story is that they then had to start growing a
- 11:30variegated form of hemp especially around Leeds because what they found was the local...
- 11:39Growers of what the crop you cannot be named they would
- 11:42find the hemp fields and then plant their
- 11:45own crop inside the hemp fields and then harvest it
- 11:48before the farmers could harvest their
- 11:51crops and so the farmers were getting
- 11:54in trouble because they were getting caught by the police and so
- 11:57they had to grow a variegated form so they could differentiate between
- 12:00that and where these people were coming in and planting
- 12:03their own crop which i thought was quite interesting so that's
- 12:06been hydroponics daily for today it's been fiber
- 12:09crops if you know anyone who's ever tried to grow fiber crops
- 12:13hydroponically let me know there is a project ongoing
- 12:16at nottingham university looking at growing cotton
- 12:20in a vertical farm i'd be very
- 12:23very surprised if you could make that commercially viable but i would be loved
- 12:28to be proved wrong so let me know if you think you could grow fiber crops commercially
- 12:32what would be the twist what would be the novel thing that could make it viable
- 12:37be really interesting to find out thank you very much for listening see you tomorrow.