Latest / QUESTION EVERYTHING / Live Connected To Strengthen Your Relationships with Steve Carlston
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- 1:25Speaker 1: atbprettysmart dot com. Now, I actually just finished reading David
- 1:29Speaker 1: Brooks's new book, which is titled How to Know a Person.
- 1:33Speaker 1: He says it's a heartfelt guide to the art of
- 1:36Speaker 1: truly knowing another person in order to foster those deep
- 1:40Speaker 1: connections throughout our lives. Basically, it's how to see someone
- 1:45Speaker 1: and let them see you. It's about connection. And it's
- 1:50Speaker 1: interesting that I just finished this book because that's exactly
- 1:54Speaker 1: what our podcast is about today. Now, I've spent about
- 1:58Speaker 1: three thousand plus hours having conversations with people in my professional.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Life so far.
- 2:04Speaker 1: I definitely can't even count the hours I've personally spent
- 2:08Speaker 1: talking and connecting. It's my favorite hobby. Some people pickleball,
- 2:14Speaker 1: I talk. In fact, I wish I could put it
- 2:17Speaker 1: as my title instead of TV host, moderator, broadcaster, content creator,
- 2:23Speaker 1: because at the core of it all, I'm really just
- 2:25Speaker 1: a professional conversationalist, a professional connector. I wish that title
- 2:31Speaker 1: held more gravitas. I put it on my Instagram profile
- 2:35Speaker 1: because that's really what it is. Since I can remember,
- 2:38Speaker 1: my very favorite activity in the world has been connecting
- 2:41Speaker 1: with people. So when I moved to LA after college.
- 2:44Speaker 1: I was twenty two and I was trying to make
- 2:47Speaker 1: a career out of it. It was just a few
- 2:49Speaker 1: months into moving that I met someone who would change
- 2:52Speaker 1: the course of my life. This person lives connected, and
- 2:58Speaker 1: that person is on the PODCAS today.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Let me start by saying this.
- 3:05Speaker 1: I think everyone has a favorite person in the world
- 3:08Speaker 1: outside of their family members. Steve Carlston is mine. I
- 3:13Speaker 1: met Steve serendipitously nearly a decade ago. I had just
- 3:17Speaker 1: moved to LA and was excited to cover a red carpet,
- 3:20Speaker 1: but the location was really hard to find.
- 3:23Speaker 2: I was lost, and.
- 3:24Speaker 1: So was another camera man that I had run into.
- 3:27Speaker 1: We were searching for the entrance when he ran into
- 3:30Speaker 1: somebody he knew. Outside of the front doors of a
- 3:32Speaker 1: gym stood this charismatic man in his sixties, wearing a
- 3:36Speaker 1: cutoff T shirt, a buzz head of silver hair, holding
- 3:39Speaker 1: a basketball.
- 3:40Speaker 2: They spoke, I chimed in.
- 3:42Speaker 1: I remember saying something like this to him, what are
- 3:45Speaker 1: you doing on the basketball court with those twenty year olds?
- 3:48Speaker 1: It was insane and borderline rude when I look back
- 3:51Speaker 1: on it, but I think that was the Chicago in me.
- 3:54Speaker 1: I hadn't yet been softened by LA's pleasantries. Plus, he
- 3:58Speaker 1: said something fantastic back to me, kicking their butts.
- 4:01Speaker 2: That's what I'm doing, and he was.
- 4:04Speaker 1: I saw those twenty year old guys leaving the court
- 4:07Speaker 1: panting behind him. We exchanged a few laughs and went
- 4:10Speaker 1: on our way. The cameraman said to me, you know
- 4:14Speaker 1: who that is, don't you. I said no, and he said,
- 4:18Speaker 1: that's the general manager of NBCLA. I drove home after
- 4:22Speaker 1: the carpet to the garage I was living in and
- 4:24Speaker 1: found Steve's email online.
- 4:27Speaker 2: I sent him a message asking to meet.
- 4:30Speaker 1: He kindly agreed, and I prepared a presentation sharing my
- 4:33Speaker 1: NBC needed their first entertainment reporter how it was going
- 4:37Speaker 1: to increase their ratings, which again was insane and borderline rude.
- 4:42Speaker 1: He was the GM as if he didn't know his
- 4:44Speaker 1: own ratings and why I was the one for the job.
- 4:48Speaker 1: I thought, maybe Steve could change the trajectory of my career. Well,
- 4:54Speaker 1: he did something so much more profound. He changed the
- 4:57Speaker 1: trajectory of my life. When I saw Steve in his
- 5:00Speaker 1: office a few weeks later, I asked him why he
- 5:02Speaker 1: so graciously agreed to meet. He said, I don't believe
- 5:06Speaker 1: in coincidences. Sometimes people meet once and that's all it is.
- 5:11Speaker 1: And sometimes people meet and make something of the moment.
- 5:15Speaker 1: We all have the opportunity to make something of each moment.
- 5:18Speaker 1: You made something of the moment we shared, So it's
- 5:21Speaker 1: the least I can do now. People in LA sometimes
- 5:24Speaker 1: speak metaphysically as a way to connect or seem altruistic,
- 5:28Speaker 1: but that wasn't Steve. He believed what he was saying,
- 5:32Speaker 1: and I believed him too. Since that day, Steve never
- 5:36Speaker 1: stopped sharing his stories and imparting his wisdom on me.
- 5:40Speaker 1: When I say he changed my life, here's what I mean.
- 5:44Speaker 1: I was so hungry when I moved to LA. I
- 5:46Speaker 1: just wanted a shop, an opportunity to work. I was
- 5:50Speaker 1: moving so fast that I was missing the whole point
- 5:53Speaker 1: that life isn't about what you get, but what you give.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Steve showed me that taught me about service. He actually
- 6:02Speaker 1: never once spoke about it with me. I just saw
- 6:05Speaker 1: how he lived with such kindness humility. How could someone
- 6:10Speaker 1: that busy, who was a present husband to his incredibly
- 6:14Speaker 1: talented and beautiful wife, Lonnie, loving father to successful children,
- 6:19Speaker 1: one of whom is Cake By Courtney on Instagram, and
- 6:21Speaker 1: you should for sure check out her content because she's awesome.
- 6:25Speaker 2: A grandfather, a boss, a true friend.
- 6:28Speaker 1: How could he find the time to help someone from
- 6:30Speaker 1: his church move on a Saturday, give his sneakers to
- 6:33Speaker 1: a guy at the gym who needed them, share his
- 6:36Speaker 1: time with people like me looking for guidance, and be
- 6:39Speaker 1: a pillar for so many at work and.
- 6:41Speaker 2: In his community.
- 6:42Speaker 1: It's because service is what life is about. I've met
- 6:46Speaker 1: people who care about impact, but I have never seen
- 6:49Speaker 1: anyone live with service at their core, so sincerely and
- 6:54Speaker 1: holy the way that he does.
- 6:57Speaker 2: I watched Steve live and speak and thought I want
- 7:01Speaker 2: to be like him.
- 7:02Speaker 1: So now when I'm in a situation that feels frustrating
- 7:05Speaker 1: or even confusing, I think, how would Steve respond? Now
- 7:09Speaker 1: that I think about it, what I'm really calling on
- 7:12Speaker 1: is his courage to respond with sturdiness and with love.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Steve Carlston has character. He does write by people. He
- 7:22Speaker 1: values humility. He has a strong backbone, a strong moral compass,
- 7:27Speaker 1: and an equally soft heart. He's also the coolest guy
- 7:31Speaker 1: in any room, with the best stories. I mean, he
- 7:35Speaker 1: beat Michael Jordan in a basketball game. He's funny, He's charismatic,
- 7:40Speaker 1: and he always knows.
- 7:41Speaker 2: The right thing to say.
- 7:42Speaker 1: He leaves every person he meets better than he found them.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Every phone conversation I have with him leaves me energized.
- 7:49Speaker 1: I wish everybody had a Steve. I've always told him
- 7:53Speaker 1: that that he has to write a book because everyone
- 7:55Speaker 1: should have such a great teacher, guide and friend. Now
- 7:59Speaker 1: he doesn't have a book out yet, but today.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Is the precursor.
- 8:03Speaker 1: I'm excited to share a conversation with you, with someone
- 8:07Speaker 1: who has shared so much with me. Please meet Steve Carlston,
- 8:11Speaker 1: a media veteran, an impactful leader, and a person who
- 8:15Speaker 1: lives connected. Steve, when I met you in your office
- 8:21Speaker 1: that day, do you remember what you said to me
- 8:24Speaker 1: when I asked you why you agreed to meet with me?
- 8:27Speaker 3: Not exactly, but share with me what was a polite.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Let me ask you that it changed the course of
- 8:33Speaker 1: my life. So you said, I said, I'm so green,
- 8:38Speaker 1: I had nothing to offer, and you so graciously agreed
- 8:41Speaker 1: to meet with me. And I said why? And you
- 8:45Speaker 1: thought about it, like you really internalize my question. You
- 8:49Speaker 1: thought and you said, I don't believe in coincidences, and
- 8:54Speaker 1: sometimes there's a moment people meet and that's it. And
- 9:00Speaker 1: then sometimes you make something of that moment, and everybody
- 9:04Speaker 1: has the opportunity to make something of the moment, and
- 9:08Speaker 1: we did.
- 9:09Speaker 3: Well, no doubt.
- 9:10Speaker 4: And so part of this whole conversation may be today
- 9:12Speaker 4: about life connection connected and living your life connected. And
- 9:16Speaker 4: so a long time ago, I realized that there's eight
- 9:19Speaker 4: billion people on the planet. And then I said, I
- 9:21Speaker 4: wonder how many people I have ever lived on the planet.
- 9:23Speaker 4: And it's one hundred and twelve billion people. So I
- 9:26Speaker 4: don't know if Chad Gpt says that, but the old
- 9:29Speaker 4: school dictionary said something like that. And then you think
- 9:32Speaker 4: about the odds of meeting somebody. Okay, so you and
- 9:35Speaker 4: I've met I now met people that work for you here,
- 9:38Speaker 4: and anytime I do that, I've learned to honor the
- 9:40Speaker 4: intersection of that moment.
- 9:43Speaker 3: Okay, So if I meet somebody at the grocery.
- 9:45Speaker 4: Store and I'm grabbing something from a top shelf because
- 9:47Speaker 4: I'm tall and help somebody, that's a life intersection, probably
- 9:51Speaker 4: not going to be a lifelong one, but it might be.
- 9:54Speaker 4: But I also do it the same thing with the cashiers.
- 9:56Speaker 4: I know that I'm probably going to see that person
- 9:57Speaker 4: in the cashier, and so our life's going to intersection intersect.
- 10:00Speaker 3: Probably every week forgetting milk or whatever it might be.
- 10:03Speaker 4: But of the eight billion people, you have to say
- 10:07Speaker 4: this was meant to be, even if it's not one
- 10:10Speaker 4: that's you know, the momentous kind of intersection, like with
- 10:13Speaker 4: my wife when I met her and we connected, right,
- 10:15Speaker 4: that's momentous to me. But the other ones I honor
- 10:18Speaker 4: as well, and so I honor them sort of in
- 10:22Speaker 4: this way.
- 10:23Speaker 3: You probably do yoga and.
- 10:24Speaker 4: You say namaste, right, And one of the meanings of
- 10:27Speaker 4: nomastay is I salute the God within.
- 10:30Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
- 10:31Speaker 4: And so when I see somebody coming at me, whether
- 10:33Speaker 4: it be here in skid row in la or whether
- 10:36Speaker 4: it be on a ski hill with the rich and
- 10:38Speaker 4: famous or whatever, I treat them all the same because
- 10:40Speaker 4: they are one of God's kids coming at me.
- 10:42Speaker 3: So that's how that came about.
- 10:45Speaker 1: So had we had this conversation ten years ago, if
- 10:48Speaker 1: you had mentioned God, I think I would have gotten
- 10:52Speaker 1: a little uncomfortable. I grew up in a Jewish but
- 10:57Speaker 1: atheist household, and I moved to Los Angeles. I looked
- 11:02Speaker 1: at all of these people that I admired. Whether I
- 11:05Speaker 1: knew them or not, Oprah, I'd never met her. I
- 11:08Speaker 1: admired her right in my mind. And all of these
- 11:12Speaker 1: people believed in God, whatever God was for them. And
- 11:16Speaker 1: then I met you, and you have this deep believe
- 11:19Speaker 1: in God, and you were I don't know if you
- 11:22Speaker 1: know this. You were my entry point to faith because
- 11:25Speaker 1: I had never met anybody who lived the way that
- 11:30Speaker 1: you did. And that's it's true, it's I guess today.
- 11:35Speaker 1: The whole theme is living connected, and you could take
- 11:37Speaker 1: connected to mean different things. Part of connection to me
- 11:41Speaker 1: is faith. And you walked around treating everybody like you
- 11:49Speaker 1: mentioned that intersection with such reverence, no matter what intersection
- 11:54Speaker 1: or moment it was. And I watched you live and
- 11:57Speaker 1: I thought, that's who I want to be, That's what
- 12:02Speaker 1: I want to That's how I want to make people feel.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Were you always like that or did you have a moment?
- 12:08Speaker 3: I have had different moments. So I grew up in
- 12:10Speaker 3: a family of five.
- 12:11Speaker 4: Kids, two brothers, two sisters, two brothers older, two sisters,
- 12:14Speaker 4: more connected, and I was the odd man out, so
- 12:17Speaker 4: at home I never really spoke. And then one day
- 12:21Speaker 4: I get a bad report card, and it's about citizenship,
- 12:25Speaker 4: and back in the day, they'd say we only talks
- 12:27Speaker 4: too much, and my mom was, it can't be Steve.
- 12:29Speaker 3: It's probably his twin sister, Sue. No, it's Steve.
- 12:33Speaker 4: He never says anything at our house. He can't be talking.
- 12:36Speaker 4: But I was craving to be able to interact with
- 12:39Speaker 4: people and connect with them in a very sophomoric way.
- 12:42Speaker 4: I mean, I was just telling jokes and getting in trouble.
- 12:45Speaker 4: So I guess I've always leaned towards that. And then
- 12:48Speaker 4: in high school I was voted the funniest person or
- 12:51Speaker 4: I'm most outlandish, I don't know what the title was.
- 12:53Speaker 4: And that was because I was trying to connect in
- 12:55Speaker 4: some way. Later in life I realized the importance of individuals,
- 12:59Speaker 4: not so much to.
- 12:59Speaker 3: Make them laugh.
- 13:00Speaker 4: But my aunt my Angelo is kind of quote right.
- 13:03Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what you say, it's how you leave.
- 13:05Speaker 3: Them feeling right.
- 13:06Speaker 4: And so then instead of looking to get the joke
- 13:08Speaker 4: and that appreciation, you grow up and you say, hey,
- 13:11Speaker 4: this isn't about me, It's about meeting one of God's kids.
- 13:14Speaker 4: And then how do I make them feel or what
- 13:16Speaker 4: do I leave with them the impression, whatever it might be.
- 13:19Speaker 1: I actually don't know where you grew up.
- 13:21Speaker 4: So I grew up in a little town out side
- 13:23Speaker 4: of Los Angeles, in a place called Lehabra, Whittier. My
- 13:26Speaker 4: house is in Whittier. My twin sister and I have
- 13:29Speaker 4: different opinions of this. She says she grew up in Whittier.
- 13:33Speaker 4: I said, I lived in Whittier, but I grew up
- 13:35Speaker 4: on the main streets of Lahabra because I was a
- 13:38Speaker 4: bit of a wild child within.
- 13:40Speaker 3: Our family structure. God, No, they didn't.
- 13:42Speaker 4: In fact, one time, when I started having some success
- 13:45Speaker 4: in my business, my mom said, I can't believe you're
- 13:47Speaker 4: doing so well.
- 13:47Speaker 3: I said, why is that? And she goes, we all
- 13:49Speaker 3: thought you'd be in prison.
- 13:51Speaker 4: Really wasn't like that.
- 13:53Speaker 3: No, I wasn't. I wasn't.
- 13:54Speaker 4: I hung out with some kind of rough kids, but
- 13:56Speaker 4: I just just having fun as a teenager. And that
- 13:59Speaker 4: was her way of saying, you know, good job of
- 14:01Speaker 4: why'd you turned your.
- 14:02Speaker 3: Life around it?
- 14:04Speaker 1: And you were always very close with your mom.
- 14:06Speaker 4: Yeah, my mom was like the angel that God gave
- 14:09Speaker 4: all of us in our family. It was like, Okay,
- 14:12Speaker 4: my father, I was a drinker, was an alcoholic, and
- 14:14Speaker 4: I struggled with him for a long time, and I
- 14:17Speaker 4: eventually made peace after his death about ten years, but
- 14:20Speaker 4: throughout my life, my mother was the north Stern.
- 14:23Speaker 1: What brought you peace ten years after his death?
- 14:25Speaker 4: Well, you know what They always say that all of
- 14:28Speaker 4: your issues in life are between zero and eight. Some
- 14:31Speaker 4: of it goes further, but you need to heal the
- 14:33Speaker 4: eight year old. And I started going to therapy when
- 14:36Speaker 4: I was going through a divorce to figure out what
- 14:38Speaker 4: the heck was wrong. Because I had all these things,
- 14:40Speaker 4: I thought I knew who I was. And in that
- 14:42Speaker 4: process of healing the eight year old in me, I
- 14:45Speaker 4: carried around a picture of me as an eight year
- 14:47Speaker 4: old in my wallet for about eight years, and in
- 14:50Speaker 4: that process, I looked at it and go, Okay, what
- 14:51Speaker 4: do we need for you today?
- 14:53Speaker 3: Okay? And it took a while for me to understand
- 14:55Speaker 3: it's still a process.
- 14:56Speaker 4: When you grew up with an alcoholic, you have issues
- 14:59Speaker 4: related to you whole life, and we won't get into
- 15:01Speaker 4: that today. But I finally got to a place where
- 15:03Speaker 4: I understood my father's issues and why he was a
- 15:06Speaker 4: drinker and how tough it was. And I think with
- 15:09Speaker 4: any kid, they eventually start to understand their parents because
- 15:13Speaker 4: they get closer.
- 15:14Speaker 3: Right.
- 15:14Speaker 4: So when I told my daughter Courtney this, when I
- 15:16Speaker 4: was going through some difficult times, I said, you know,
- 15:19Speaker 4: I'm forty and you're twenty or whatever the age difference was.
- 15:23Speaker 4: As she was eighteen. I think I was probably fifty.
- 15:26Speaker 4: Made myself so sound younger. But anyway, in that process,
- 15:30Speaker 4: there's going to be a time when you finish school
- 15:32Speaker 4: and we're closer together, and you get a job and
- 15:34Speaker 4: we're closer, and my life is still kind of the same.
- 15:37Speaker 4: And then you get married to whoops, we get real close.
- 15:40Speaker 4: Then you have kids, and if your first fight with
- 15:41Speaker 4: your husband and all of a sudden, we're almost identical.
- 15:44Speaker 4: And I talked with her this morning and we had
- 15:45Speaker 4: identical days, really, and that's a really interesting thing. And
- 15:49Speaker 4: so I tried to do that with my father and
- 15:51Speaker 4: close the gap. And so that's how I did it.
- 15:54Speaker 4: I started to understand, you know, you never understand how
- 15:57Speaker 4: other people walk in life, and so you get through
- 16:01Speaker 4: it and you start to listen and try to think
- 16:03Speaker 4: it through and read journals and go, Okay, his life
- 16:06Speaker 4: wasn't that easy.
- 16:07Speaker 3: And you went to World War.
- 16:08Speaker 4: Two and came back an alcoholic and a chain smoker,
- 16:11Speaker 4: and you know there was reasons for that.
- 16:14Speaker 1: When you meet other people who have parents who dealt
- 16:17Speaker 1: with addiction, do you feel like there's similarities or things
- 16:21Speaker 1: that you pick up on.
- 16:22Speaker 4: I can pretty much tell, really yeah. But I'm very
- 16:25Speaker 4: observant about stuff I don't know. I don't have a
- 16:27Speaker 4: lot of skill sets, but I can walk into a
- 16:29Speaker 4: room and read the room real quick. I can read
- 16:31Speaker 4: what people you know. Like one of the things I
- 16:33Speaker 4: teach salespeople or anybody going into a room for a
- 16:35Speaker 4: meeting is to look around the room. Okay, And I
- 16:38Speaker 4: think I talked to you about that as well, is
- 16:40Speaker 4: what are they into and what makes the movement between you?
- 16:43Speaker 4: You gotta find connection, and so if you can find
- 16:46Speaker 4: a picture or something, there's a way to make a connection.
- 16:49Speaker 4: The other thing is addicts are drawn to me, or
- 16:52Speaker 4: I'm drawn to them. I'm not sure what it is,
- 16:54Speaker 4: but I have plenty of badic friends that I visit
- 16:58Speaker 4: with that I've helped with. I don't solve the problem,
- 17:01Speaker 4: but I try to be a part of their solution.
- 17:04Speaker 1: There was something that you told me a while ago.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Someone from your church called and said they couldn't afford
- 17:11Speaker 1: to move. They needed to move and you have a
- 17:16Speaker 1: really busy schedule. It's packed both with professional and personal endeavors.
- 17:23Speaker 1: And you said, I'm not going to pay for your move,
- 17:27Speaker 1: but I'll come help you move. And I always wondered why,
- 17:31Speaker 1: because you could have paid for his move.
- 17:33Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:34Speaker 4: Well, there's a self reliance responsibility that we try to
- 17:37Speaker 4: teach the members of the faith that I belong to.
- 17:39Speaker 3: And try to help them.
- 17:41Speaker 4: And so I helped them find a better deal, So
- 17:43Speaker 4: that's not the end of the story. I help them
- 17:45Speaker 4: get the right deal. And then we put together a
- 17:47Speaker 4: group of men and women to come and help move,
- 17:49Speaker 4: just like the old barn raising days of the Midwest.
- 17:52Speaker 4: And we had them moved within the day and had
- 17:54Speaker 4: it loaded and packed up and got them a full tank.
- 17:56Speaker 3: Of gas and some them on their way and they
- 17:58Speaker 3: were able to move.
- 17:59Speaker 1: But you could have had thirty year old men help
- 18:02Speaker 1: him move. And you spent your whole weekend. Well it
- 18:05Speaker 1: was a Saturday, your Saturday.
- 18:06Speaker 4: Part of how everybody kind of helps out in the faith.
- 18:09Speaker 4: But I also find whenever I do that, I connect
- 18:12Speaker 4: really well with people I never would So there's a
- 18:15Speaker 4: lot of people at the church. You meet them and
- 18:17Speaker 4: you kind of have that interaction, but you don't really
- 18:19Speaker 4: connect until you're working together and serving other people.
- 18:23Speaker 3: We did. On one of the television stations.
- 18:25Speaker 4: I ran a series called Life Connected and the stories
- 18:28Speaker 4: are about It was meant to be during a difficult
- 18:32Speaker 4: time before all of the racial unrest in America. I
- 18:36Speaker 4: kind of hit it early, but it was about how
- 18:38Speaker 4: people's lives connect, no matter who they are. So I
- 18:41Speaker 4: said to the talent, I said, Okay, I want stories
- 18:43Speaker 4: about how black and white, black and brown, straight and gay,
- 18:47Speaker 4: men and woman, old and young. Any story of a
- 18:49Speaker 4: difference that you can look at and see and then
- 18:52Speaker 4: tell a story about how their lives connect. And of
- 18:55Speaker 4: them were through service, providing service to somebody, food bank,
- 19:00Speaker 4: clothing store, teaching at their kids' school, whatever it might
- 19:03Speaker 4: have been. And when you start to say, okay, why
- 19:07Speaker 4: is that the biggest connection, it's because everything ownse dromps.
- 19:10Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
- 19:11Speaker 4: It's like when I play ball basketball, they don't care
- 19:14Speaker 4: that I'm a ninety year old white guy. If I
- 19:16Speaker 4: can put the ball in the hoop, you're in that's
- 19:19Speaker 4: all they care about. And in service, it's the same thing.
- 19:21Speaker 4: They don't care for.
- 19:22Speaker 1: Anybody listening he's not ninety.
- 19:26Speaker 4: The thirty year olds I play with different, but I
- 19:30Speaker 4: mean it's truth and.
- 19:31Speaker 3: That's the way life is.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Right.
- 19:33Speaker 3: And while we're on.
- 19:34Speaker 4: Just diversity for a second, in life connected. One of
- 19:37Speaker 4: the things that's interesting about diversity, and I've tried to
- 19:39Speaker 4: learn some of the time. I was a kid, I
- 19:41Speaker 4: grew up in you know, probably forty percent Hispanic high
- 19:44Speaker 4: school at Lhabra, and all of my friends never thought.
- 19:47Speaker 3: Two things about it.
- 19:48Speaker 4: And then you get out in the world and then
- 19:49Speaker 4: you say, okay, well there's more to this whole diversity.
- 19:52Speaker 3: But what I found over the years is that diversity.
- 19:54Speaker 4: You being a woman, a young woman, and me being
- 19:56Speaker 4: an old guy, white guy, we see the world differently,
- 20:00Speaker 4: and a black person and a white person are going
- 20:02Speaker 4: to see it differently, and we have to know how
- 20:04Speaker 4: that other person sees it. Otherwise you don't have three
- 20:06Speaker 4: six division, you just have yours. And so diversity has
- 20:10Speaker 4: to be celebrated that that person is something I don't
- 20:14Speaker 4: because of their walk.
- 20:15Speaker 3: Okay.
- 20:15Speaker 4: And so you know when I get upset when people go, oh,
- 20:18Speaker 4: we got to talk about diverse, I said.
- 20:19Speaker 3: Dude, talk about it. Are you getting me?
- 20:21Speaker 1: We get to learn it's an opportunity.
- 20:23Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an opportunity.
- 20:24Speaker 4: And so you know, I try to ensconce myself and
- 20:27Speaker 4: all of that I possibly can in life because it's
- 20:29Speaker 4: another connection.
- 20:30Speaker 1: You did that a ton at the last station that
- 20:32Speaker 1: you ran, you kind of turned over almost all of
- 20:35Speaker 1: the talent.
- 20:36Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 20:36Speaker 4: Well, I think we were awarded here in la is
- 20:39Speaker 4: the most diverse newsroom, and I believe that that newsroom
- 20:42Speaker 4: would still probably be the most diverse in the city
- 20:44Speaker 4: and then in the country as well. And it's really
- 20:47Speaker 4: just mirroring the marketplace. So it's pretty easy to look
- 20:49Speaker 4: at and to say, Okay, it's you know, forty seven
- 20:51Speaker 4: percent Latino, it's eight percent black, it's eighteen percent Asian.
- 20:55Speaker 4: How do we make it look as close to that
- 20:57Speaker 4: as we possibly can and hire the best talent. And
- 21:00Speaker 4: when doing that, then you raise everybody up because then
- 21:03Speaker 4: you know, everybody just does much better and they start
- 21:06Speaker 4: to learn that it doesn't matter again if you can
- 21:08Speaker 4: make the shot, we need you.
- 21:10Speaker 1: And as somebody who's been in a newsroom, it is
- 21:13Speaker 1: way more fun and interesting to be in a newsroom
- 21:15Speaker 1: with people who have different walks because you all view
- 21:18Speaker 1: stories differently. Oh yeah, yeah, I think it adds so
- 21:22Speaker 1: much to the stories that you're telling.
- 21:25Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an interesting thing about diversity as well. There's
- 21:28Speaker 4: eight billion people, right, Nobody has the same fingerprints, so
- 21:31Speaker 4: everything you touch in life is your mark, which is interesting.
- 21:35Speaker 4: Your footprints are uniquely yours. So wherever you walk in life,
- 21:40Speaker 4: that's your journey. Okay, it's not my journey. We could
- 21:42Speaker 4: be walking down the same street, but it's yours. You
- 21:45Speaker 4: might be in a higher or lower, little level, whatever
- 21:47Speaker 4: the case might be. We could, but I promise you,
- 21:49Speaker 4: through life, if you were just to map out our walk,
- 21:53Speaker 4: it would be all over the place, and.
- 21:54Speaker 3: Then we make the connection and then we go and
- 21:55Speaker 3: do our thing right. So that's one thing.
- 21:58Speaker 4: And then the last thing that makes it very unique
- 22:00Speaker 4: is that all of our eyes are unique to us.
- 22:02Speaker 4: The only time they're not is if you're an identical twin.
- 22:06Speaker 4: It's the only time that eyes aren't exactly are different.
- 22:09Speaker 4: So when they do the retinal scan, the reason they
- 22:11Speaker 4: can do that is everybody in this room has different eyes.
- 22:13Speaker 4: But now look at it from this perspective. You've touched
- 22:16Speaker 4: your own touch, you've walked your own walk, and you've
- 22:19Speaker 4: seen the world only as you can see it. And
- 22:22Speaker 4: then your experience of having an atheist family and a
- 22:26Speaker 4: Jewish background. Wow, I don't think I knew that about
- 22:29Speaker 4: your family. That's pretty unique. And then you look at
- 22:32Speaker 4: me and go, wow, he had religion his whole life.
- 22:35Speaker 3: Well, that makes me unique, okay.
- 22:37Speaker 4: And so all of us are unique sons and daughters
- 22:40Speaker 4: of God given a path, and the path is here's
- 22:44Speaker 4: your entry point. I'll see you when you get home.
- 22:48Speaker 4: And now we start walking, and then it's about decision making.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Speaking of decision making, what do you think is the
- 22:53Speaker 1: most important decision that people make in their lives to.
- 22:57Speaker 3: Find out who they are early and then to stay
- 22:59Speaker 3: the course.
- 23:00Speaker 4: I think you know, I come from a religious background,
- 23:02Speaker 4: so it's easy for me to say I'm a son of.
- 23:04Speaker 3: God and he wants me to come back home.
- 23:06Speaker 4: But I also think you have to say, I'm a
- 23:08Speaker 4: person of the planet, and how do I impact the
- 23:11Speaker 4: planet and other people? And I think people can relate
- 23:13Speaker 4: to that. And so am I going to absorb the
- 23:15Speaker 4: planet to myself or am I going to share the
- 23:18Speaker 4: planet and make sure everybody gets equal space and equal.
- 23:21Speaker 3: Right to that place?
- 23:22Speaker 1: In tangent with that, since I have met you, You've
- 23:25Speaker 1: talked about living connected, and every time I walk into
- 23:29Speaker 1: your office, you have a new great story for me.
- 23:33Speaker 1: And it's always about that intersection for you. And you
- 23:35Speaker 1: have some really wild things happen in your life, like bizarre, unexplainable.
- 23:42Speaker 1: What does living connected mean to you?
- 23:44Speaker 4: Well, I think honoring people as they come into your
- 23:47Speaker 4: life and connecting with them, even if for a moment,
- 23:50Speaker 4: to be able to bring joy to your soul that
- 23:51Speaker 4: you met somebody else from maybe a pre world or something.
- 23:55Speaker 4: But for me, living connected is just a way of
- 23:58Speaker 4: saying I love, and that's important. I'm gonna tell you
- 24:03Speaker 4: a fun story. I'll tell you a really fun story.
- 24:04Speaker 4: So I moved to another station in Los Angeles, and
- 24:08Speaker 4: I go over the hill every day, and so I
- 24:10Speaker 4: leave really early in most mornings. I go right down
- 24:13Speaker 4: to Santa Monica and I walk the beach, I go
- 24:16Speaker 4: up to the pier, I take a picture. I say
- 24:18Speaker 4: hello to this little seagull that's.
- 24:20Speaker 3: There every day anyway.
- 24:21Speaker 4: So as I come back one day, I see this
- 24:25Speaker 4: guy over on the sand throwing up a football. And
- 24:28Speaker 4: I have no idea who this guy is, but I'm
- 24:30Speaker 4: maybe ten yards away. I go, dude, I'm open, and
- 24:33Speaker 4: he looks at me. I go, I'm open. So he
- 24:35Speaker 4: throws me to the football. So we start having a
- 24:37Speaker 4: football catch, and over the course of about seven or
- 24:40Speaker 4: eight minutes, I start to realize he's homeless. All of
- 24:42Speaker 4: this stuff is right there, and I'm having a catch. Okay,
- 24:45Speaker 4: So I say, listen, I gotta go, and I throw
- 24:48Speaker 4: the ball back and I leave and next day I
- 24:50Speaker 4: come by, he's not there. The following day, not thinking
- 24:53Speaker 4: about him, I hear this, Hey.
- 24:55Speaker 3: Are you open? I go, I'm open, and.
- 24:59Speaker 4: So he throws me the ball another catch, and so
- 25:01Speaker 4: then I take the time. Now that we're a little
- 25:03Speaker 4: bit more comfortable with each other, I go, where are
- 25:04Speaker 4: you from? And he's from the Midwest? And why are
- 25:06Speaker 4: you out here? He goes, well, I going to get
- 25:08Speaker 4: away from some things that were going on. What we're
- 25:10Speaker 4: going on? I spend a little time in prison. Oh
- 25:12Speaker 4: why were we in prison? I took a few things. Okay,
- 25:16Speaker 4: jail is a few things. Prison is a lot of things.
- 25:18Speaker 4: He goes, I took a lot of things. And he's
- 25:21Speaker 4: a little off, and so we start talking and I go,
- 25:24Speaker 4: what's your name?
- 25:24Speaker 3: He goes, I'm too fast. I go dude, what.
- 25:27Speaker 4: Does that mean? He goes, you can't catch me? And
- 25:30Speaker 4: one of this whole thing is a little loaf, you know.
- 25:31Speaker 4: But he was like it was all football. I could
- 25:33Speaker 4: have been in the NFL and all this, and.
- 25:36Speaker 3: He said, well, okay, I go, I guess I'm too slow.
- 25:40Speaker 3: He goes, what do you mean? I go, I'm not
- 25:41Speaker 3: running from you too fast?
- 25:43Speaker 4: And so then some worker guy came up that knows
- 25:45Speaker 4: him and kind of cleans the beach, and all of
- 25:47Speaker 4: a sudden, he goes, why are you playing catch with
- 25:49Speaker 4: I'm too fast you know this guy? And he goes, yeah,
- 25:53Speaker 4: and I go because he's catching all my passes, and
- 25:56Speaker 4: he goes, never catches mine.
- 25:57Speaker 3: I said, I think it's a you problem.
- 26:00Speaker 1: I love that.
- 26:01Speaker 3: So we had fun.
- 26:02Speaker 4: So, you know, a couple of days later, I see oh,
- 26:04Speaker 4: and then I said, listen.
- 26:05Speaker 3: I know you go on the street.
- 26:07Speaker 4: You probably, I said, I know you live on the street,
- 26:12Speaker 4: you know, and you go buy on the street. I'm
- 26:14Speaker 4: too fast, but I'm Steve. What's your real name? He goes,
- 26:17Speaker 4: I'm too fast.
- 26:18Speaker 3: I go okay, and he said Rick, and I go okay, Rick.
- 26:23Speaker 4: So we leave and the next day or two I'm
- 26:25Speaker 4: walking on the beach further down and he's going through
- 26:27Speaker 4: some trash and getting some trash and I go, hey, Rick,
- 26:30Speaker 4: I'm open.
- 26:30Speaker 3: He goes, I'm busy. Away goes, I'm working.
- 26:35Speaker 1: He shut you down.
- 26:36Speaker 3: He shut me down. So my guy in the beach
- 26:38Speaker 3: was a great connection.
- 26:39Speaker 4: I see him and throw the football with him, and
- 26:42Speaker 4: you know, whenever i'm there, I hear this.
- 26:44Speaker 3: Hey you open.
- 26:45Speaker 1: It's so metaphorical. Yeah, right, like are you open?
- 26:49Speaker 3: Are you open to this discussion? Yeah?
- 26:51Speaker 1: Just open hearted?
- 26:52Speaker 3: Yeah, open minded, a little deeper than I thought.
- 26:54Speaker 1: But that's very cool. I like that. You're never you're
- 27:00Speaker 1: never afraid to talk to anybody. You'll go first.
- 27:03Speaker 4: Well, my mom taught me a principle, be the first
- 27:05Speaker 4: to say hello, in the first to say you're sorry. Okay,
- 27:08Speaker 4: so it goes well in relationship relationships, even if you're
- 27:12Speaker 4: not necessarily sure you're sorry.
- 27:14Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's better to start lead with that is
- 27:17Speaker 3: part of the relationship. Hey, I'm sorry.
- 27:19Speaker 4: I might have overstepped I'm sorry, my voice might have
- 27:23Speaker 4: getten a little higher. Let me be the first to
- 27:24Speaker 4: say it. But going back to the question, that's where
- 27:28Speaker 4: it started from. But now I know that everybody in
- 27:31Speaker 4: life needs a little touch point, even if they don't
- 27:34Speaker 4: think they do.
- 27:38Speaker 1: It's a new year and that means new opportunities to
- 27:41Speaker 1: make connections. But when it comes to dating, it can
- 27:44Speaker 1: be tough to put yourself out there and even nowhere
- 27:47Speaker 1: to start. That's why I'm honestly excited to talk about Hinge,
- 27:51Speaker 1: the dating app designed to be deleted.
- 27:54Speaker 2: I'm starting. I decided this year I'm going to start
- 27:56Speaker 2: to date now.
- 27:58Speaker 1: I'm usually more of a meet in the wild, not
- 28:00Speaker 1: on Wi Fi kind of girl, but it's twenty twenty
- 28:03Speaker 1: four and I need to make some changes. My friends
- 28:05Speaker 1: told me I did, so I'm signing up for Hinge.
- 28:09Speaker 1: It really allows you to go beyond the surface of
- 28:11Speaker 1: scrolling left or right on photos, express your personality, and
- 28:15Speaker 1: meet people who are on the same page. In the past,
- 28:18Speaker 1: I slacked on my profile and I never even wrote prompts.
- 28:21Speaker 1: But it's twenty twenty four and I'm promising to be
- 28:24Speaker 1: more intentional. I'm going on Hinge and taking the time
- 28:27Speaker 1: to invest in my profile. So if you're already on Hinge,
- 28:30Speaker 1: you can reinvest in your profile, update those prompts, those
- 28:33Speaker 1: photos and dating intentions, and make sure They reflect who
- 28:37Speaker 1: you are and what you're looking for this year. It
- 28:39Speaker 1: can be as easy as updating your profile to add
- 28:42Speaker 1: the Hinge prompt. This year, I really want to blink
- 28:46Speaker 1: This year, I really want to get married. Just kidding,
- 28:48Speaker 1: don't say that on your dating app. Buy a skincare fridge.
- 28:53Speaker 1: Maybe don't say that either, Okay, for real? This year,
- 28:55Speaker 1: I really want to do a half marathon, or master
- 28:58Speaker 1: the art of cooking, win a kickleball tournament, read twenty
- 29:01Speaker 1: five books, create the ultimate playlist for every celebration, explore
- 29:05Speaker 1: two new countries, get my yoga certification, or sleep more.
- 29:10Speaker 1: Whatever the answer is for you, Manifest the dating experience
- 29:13Speaker 1: you want this year. Download Hinge and find someone worth
- 29:18Speaker 1: deleting the app for. I saw this clip of Oprah
- 29:24Speaker 1: online and she says that her grandmother always told her
- 29:27Speaker 1: to pray on her knees, and every night she would
- 29:29Speaker 1: pray on her knees because there will come a day
- 29:31Speaker 1: that you can't bend down. Oh, which was like a
- 29:34Speaker 1: little joke. But you were the first person I met
- 29:36Speaker 1: that told me that you pray on your knees every morning. Yeah,
- 29:40Speaker 1: And when I heard that, I thought, what, You're a
- 29:44Speaker 1: sixth something. Man, you are very tall and you get
- 29:47Speaker 1: down on your knees and you pray every morning.
- 29:50Speaker 3: Yeah, and I haven't done it all my life.
- 29:52Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:52Speaker 4: As I get older, I realize kind of the relationship
- 29:54Speaker 4: that I have with the heavens above and with God.
- 29:57Speaker 4: So I refer my upbringing that God is my father
- 30:01Speaker 4: in heaven, okay, and he is the father of all
- 30:04Speaker 4: the children here.
- 30:05Speaker 3: Right.
- 30:06Speaker 4: So it's the one ultimate connection that you can have
- 30:08Speaker 4: every day. But you have to learn to listen in
- 30:11Speaker 4: a different tone.
- 30:12Speaker 3: Right.
- 30:13Speaker 4: So the frequencies of life, you can hear my voice, okay,
- 30:16Speaker 4: but the frequencies of God you have to listen with
- 30:19Speaker 4: your heart and you have to be able to express
- 30:21Speaker 4: yourself and then be calm enough to listen back. So
- 30:25Speaker 4: a lot of times in the Old Testament and the
- 30:27Speaker 4: New Testament scriptures, you always hear people going up to
- 30:29Speaker 4: a high place. And in the Jewish faith, you know,
- 30:31Speaker 4: Moses went up and got the ten commandments up on it.
- 30:34Speaker 4: And so there's something about getting up and away from
- 30:37Speaker 4: the earthly experience that we have here because it's noisy,
- 30:40Speaker 4: and the way you do it is through a lot
- 30:42Speaker 4: of people meditate and they get away from it I've
- 30:45Speaker 4: always felt that whenever I go up to the mountains
- 30:47Speaker 4: and I can go walking in the mountains by myself,
- 30:49Speaker 4: you just feel like you're away from the noise. And
- 30:52Speaker 4: that's what prayer does. Now, I will, you know, when
- 30:54Speaker 4: we talked and I said that I try to do
- 30:56Speaker 4: my prayers morning and night on my knees. At night,
- 30:58Speaker 4: I do it probably ninety percent of the time. In
- 31:00Speaker 4: the mornings, I'm probably about forty percent because there's a
- 31:03Speaker 4: lot of times that I'll sit in the car.
- 31:04Speaker 3: I've now got a new routine, and I.
- 31:07Speaker 4: Get everything ready because I'm in a hurry to get
- 31:08Speaker 4: over the hill, and then I'll sit for five minutes
- 31:10Speaker 4: and have that prayer there and then when I.
- 31:13Speaker 3: Come home, or there's a lot of prayers during the day.
- 31:16Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, it's you know, you just try to do
- 31:18Speaker 4: your best and God knows and we're all just it's
- 31:21Speaker 4: an interesting thing. Nobody gets out with the headwinds, without
- 31:24Speaker 4: uphill battles and without moments when you have to pivot. Yeah, okay,
- 31:28Speaker 4: and everybody has to do that. And so part of
- 31:30Speaker 4: the process is that, right, you only grow and you
- 31:33Speaker 4: only sail by the way with winds, you know, you
- 31:35Speaker 4: need winds in your life to sail, and so some
- 31:38Speaker 4: of them are in front of you and some of
- 31:40Speaker 4: them are the tailwinds that push you.
- 31:42Speaker 3: And that's life. And you know, the whole process of.
- 31:45Speaker 4: Faith, honestly is you know, Ted Lasso taught us the
- 31:48Speaker 4: word believe, Okay.
- 31:49Speaker 3: Faith is the.
- 31:50Speaker 4: Next level of that, and it's actually accepting the fact
- 31:54Speaker 4: that there's.
- 31:54Speaker 3: A higher power in your life.
- 31:56Speaker 4: In my life, it's Heavenly Father, but it's also an
- 31:58Speaker 4: understanding our relationship to him. So the word humility, a
- 32:02Speaker 4: lot of people think it's me, Oh, I'm really humble,
- 32:05Speaker 4: but it's not that at all. The word humility comes
- 32:08Speaker 4: from the root word hummus, which is deep, dark, rich soil.
- 32:12Speaker 4: And what do you put in there seeds to grow, Okay.
- 32:15Speaker 4: So humility is a process of growing, and that growing
- 32:18Speaker 4: process is listening, reading, doing things to help grow. And
- 32:25Speaker 4: that's part of the process. But you have to understand
- 32:26Speaker 4: that you're part of this giant world. And if you
- 32:30Speaker 4: really want something freak, there's a new telescope called the
- 32:32Speaker 4: James Web Telescope, and it's now going where no man
- 32:36Speaker 4: has ever gone.
- 32:36Speaker 3: Right. It's the star Trek of our time and it sees.
- 32:39Speaker 4: All these gorgeous pictures of galaxies we didn't know existed,
- 32:44Speaker 4: and they turned it around back at Earth.
- 32:47Speaker 3: And we're in this little dot. Really, it's unbelievable.
- 32:50Speaker 4: And the moment I saw that, I said, that's getting
- 32:53Speaker 4: high out of the atmosphere and realizing our place. And
- 32:57Speaker 4: so if you start to realize that while we're unique
- 33:00Speaker 4: and valued, we're also just a part of this whole
- 33:04Speaker 4: giant system. So if you can't get humble thinking of
- 33:07Speaker 4: that and say I got to grow and learn and
- 33:09Speaker 4: see what else is out there in my life, you know,
- 33:11Speaker 4: it's a metaphor for growing in life as well.
- 33:14Speaker 1: I didn't know how to pray, and I started just
- 33:18Speaker 1: saying thank you, and that was a great first prayer. Yeah,
- 33:23Speaker 1: do you have any tips for people?
- 33:25Speaker 4: Well, I think, however you do it, and I'm not
- 33:28Speaker 4: going to put my dogma, but I'll tell you how
- 33:29Speaker 4: I do it. Heavenly Father, I address him as my father,
- 33:33Speaker 4: and then I try to do as many thanks as
- 33:34Speaker 4: I possibly can before I get to.
- 33:36Speaker 3: My laundry list of I need.
- 33:39Speaker 4: You know, I think when you're praying, the thank yous
- 33:43Speaker 4: are much more important than the request because it shows
- 33:45Speaker 4: a humility, and he'll give you what you need. Yeah, okay,
- 33:48Speaker 4: So but every once in a while I pray for family.
- 33:52Speaker 4: They say to pray over your flocks. So you know,
- 33:55Speaker 4: that's the olden days and the Old Testament and all
- 33:58Speaker 4: of that is good. But I think God wants just
- 34:00Speaker 4: a recognition that, hey, he's in your life and it's important.
- 34:04Speaker 1: Can you share one of your most memorable, living connected stories.
- 34:08Speaker 4: There's a lot like you know, I mean, there's I've
- 34:10Speaker 4: met the strangest, most fun, wonderful people.
- 34:13Speaker 3: But I was skiing one day.
- 34:15Speaker 4: I was just wanting to be alone, and so I
- 34:17Speaker 4: had my head set in and I get in a
- 34:19Speaker 4: chairlift and I'm like, I don't want to be with anybody,
- 34:21Speaker 4: just want to ski alone. It was a Tuesday, nobody's around.
- 34:24Speaker 4: But I got on this chairlift and there was two
- 34:26Speaker 4: guys and a lady and the lady who happened to
- 34:28Speaker 4: be a mountain host helping these guys, and the one
- 34:32Speaker 4: guy was you know, I kind of look over and
- 34:34Speaker 4: I well, healed got the best skis, best you know whatever,
- 34:37Speaker 4: really nice guy.
- 34:38Speaker 3: And he says, you want to ski a run with us?
- 34:40Speaker 4: And I go, yeah, sure, So we ski down and
- 34:42Speaker 4: the other two leave and now it's me and this
- 34:44Speaker 4: other guy, Scott.
- 34:46Speaker 3: I'm changing the names to protect the innocent here.
- 34:48Speaker 4: Yeah, So Scott asked me to get ski and we
- 34:50Speaker 4: get to ski for a long time. And as we're
- 34:52Speaker 4: on the chairlift in the morning and we started both
- 34:55Speaker 4: first chair that day and it's now like ten thirty.
- 34:58Speaker 4: We've had about five runs together to know each other.
- 35:00Speaker 4: And he finally says, I'm going through a divorce and I.
- 35:03Speaker 3: Go, oh, man, I'm really sorry.
- 35:04Speaker 4: And we have a lot of the similar backgrounds in
- 35:06Speaker 4: our faith. Divorce isn't necessarily common, and so I said
- 35:09Speaker 4: I won't put through one myself, and it's not.
- 35:11Speaker 3: Good and I understand.
- 35:13Speaker 4: And we're having this moment guy moment, but you know,
- 35:15Speaker 4: an Oprah guy moment, And so we talk and he
- 35:18Speaker 4: starts to talk. I started to say, I think I
- 35:20Speaker 4: know this guy, but I've never met him. I mean,
- 35:22Speaker 4: I i'd recognize him, i'd met him. I've never met him,
- 35:25Speaker 4: but there's something in the back of my head. He
- 35:27Speaker 4: was in a business area that a friend of mine
- 35:29Speaker 4: was in. He lived in Orange County, he went to
- 35:32Speaker 4: the same college I did. There was something going on.
- 35:34Speaker 4: So now all these things were coming up. We stopped
- 35:37Speaker 4: for lunch. At lunch, a friend of his from Orange
- 35:39Speaker 4: County shows up and says, hey, how's you know York's wife?
- 35:44Speaker 3: And I go, that's a really bad question.
- 35:46Speaker 4: It's a wife, and so he answers, but he said
- 35:49Speaker 4: the person's name, and I go, oh, my goodness, I
- 35:52Speaker 4: know who this guy is.
- 35:54Speaker 3: So I get on the chairlift. I said, Scott, can
- 35:55Speaker 3: I ask you a question?
- 35:57Speaker 4: You know, the personal you know that we're talking about?
- 36:00Speaker 4: And I go, yeah, and I'll make up The name
- 36:02Speaker 4: is your first wife, Jane Smith. And he looks at
- 36:05Speaker 4: me like his head was about to fall off.
- 36:06Speaker 3: He goes, how do you know? I go, I just
- 36:10Speaker 3: figured it out. And he goes, well, how do you know?
- 36:12Speaker 3: Do you know her? I go yeah. He goes, well
- 36:13Speaker 3: how do you know her?
- 36:14Speaker 4: I go, I dated her right before you married her,
- 36:17Speaker 4: because we had gotten to the same school. I'm like
- 36:20Speaker 4: and he's like, no, this is too crazy, you know.
- 36:22Speaker 4: So we ski the rest of the day and he
- 36:24Speaker 4: finally tells me. I go, what are you looking for?
- 36:26Speaker 4: He goes, you know, he gave me the you know,
- 36:27Speaker 4: he wanted somebody that could ski and ron and be
- 36:30Speaker 4: a sport, you know, kind of sporty type of person.
- 36:32Speaker 4: And I had another friend of mine who had told
- 36:34Speaker 4: me about his daughter who was, you know, anxious to
- 36:37Speaker 4: meet somebody. And he kept saying, set her up, set
- 36:39Speaker 4: her up, And so I said, I got your person,
- 36:42Speaker 4: and he goes, what. I go, you just want this, this,
- 36:45Speaker 4: and this right, and she has to be cute. He
- 36:47Speaker 4: goes yeah, I go, I got her, and he goes,
- 36:49Speaker 4: no way. So I said, here's the number, give her
- 36:51Speaker 4: a call. So and I'm thinking, like it's the perfect match.
- 36:54Speaker 4: He never calls her, and so I call him up.
- 36:57Speaker 4: I go, Scott, what are you doing? I go, I
- 37:01Speaker 4: gave you the best name in the world. And I
- 37:03Speaker 4: won't tell you what else I told him. I just
- 37:05Speaker 4: said call her. And I did say this to him.
- 37:08Speaker 4: I said, if it doesn't work out, I'll pay for
- 37:09Speaker 4: the day. So he calls her up. Eighteen months later
- 37:13Speaker 4: they got married.
- 37:14Speaker 1: So you meet a random guy on a chair lift,
- 37:16Speaker 1: you happen to have dated his ex wife, and then
- 37:19Speaker 1: you set him up with his current wife. I got
- 37:21Speaker 1: that kind of song all in a day's work. So
- 37:25Speaker 1: I think some people could look at that and say
- 37:28Speaker 1: that's a lot of connection. But also maybe some coincidence
- 37:32Speaker 1: and you don't feel that way.
- 37:33Speaker 3: No, no, listen, there is some coincidence.
- 37:36Speaker 4: But if my theory is right, that God knows my
- 37:38Speaker 4: path and he knows Steve's path, and he knew this
- 37:41Speaker 4: other person's path, right, couldn't he all put us together?
- 37:44Speaker 1: So people often asked me the best career advice I've
- 37:47Speaker 1: ever gotten, and I always cite you. And when I
- 37:52Speaker 1: was in Chicago doing the morning show, you called me
- 37:54Speaker 1: to check in on me one day and I said,
- 37:58Speaker 1: I'm just like kind of freaked out that I moved home,
- 38:02Speaker 1: and I feel like maybe I took ten steps back.
- 38:06Speaker 1: And you said, if you don't build roots when you're young,
- 38:09Speaker 1: you'll tip over when you're old.
- 38:13Speaker 3: Powerful, really powerful.
- 38:15Speaker 1: And I love good roots and tree analogy. Yeah, but
- 38:19Speaker 1: why was that something that was important for you?
- 38:22Speaker 4: Like I said, my dad and I were not close yet,
- 38:24Speaker 4: but he said to me, just when you get into
- 38:26Speaker 4: a business, stay in that business. He moved around a
- 38:29Speaker 4: little bit, and build your roots in that business. And
- 38:32Speaker 4: so even when I wanted to leave for a better
- 38:34Speaker 4: offer outside of the industry of broadcasting, I stayed in it.
- 38:37Speaker 4: And it proved to be the long game. As opposed
- 38:40Speaker 4: to I'm going to go make more money in a
- 38:42Speaker 4: different game and keep moving around like that. I often
- 38:44Speaker 4: tell the story about different kinds of trees. So in
- 38:48Speaker 4: my neighborhood this week, with all the rains and storms,
- 38:50Speaker 4: we had a probably a forty or fifty foot tree
- 38:52Speaker 4: pop all over and everybody's like, wow, it just crushed
- 38:55Speaker 4: a car, and they're all over here looking at the damage,
- 38:57Speaker 4: and I was looking at the root system system was
- 39:00Speaker 4: very shallow for a fifty foot tree. I'm like, I
- 39:02Speaker 4: would have thought this would never turn over, but it
- 39:04Speaker 4: was a very shallow root system. Over the years, I've
- 39:07Speaker 4: been able to go up to the sequoias and learn
- 39:09Speaker 4: a lot about the sequoia trees, and this goes back
- 39:11Speaker 4: to why do.
- 39:12Speaker 3: You need to be really firmly rooted.
- 39:14Speaker 4: They're the oldest trees, they're the tallest trees, and yet
- 39:18Speaker 4: they have the shortest root system per foot of any
- 39:21Speaker 4: tree in the world.
- 39:22Speaker 3: It's a very shallow.
- 39:24Speaker 4: It's four hundred foot tree has a ten foot root system,
- 39:28Speaker 4: except they have a three hundred yard root system that
- 39:32Speaker 4: interconnects with all the other trees around the forest. So
- 39:35Speaker 4: if you go up there and walk around you'll see
- 39:36Speaker 4: groupings of trees and it looks like a mother, father,
- 39:40Speaker 4: a baby tree, and they've all grown up into three
- 39:43Speaker 4: different things. But the root system's all connected there. And
- 39:45Speaker 4: then those root systems go and connect throughout the forest
- 39:48Speaker 4: and they're all connected. They're the longest living trees. They
- 39:52Speaker 4: don't burn. It's an incredible system of living connected, just
- 39:57Speaker 4: visually going. And if you were to cut open the forest,
- 40:00Speaker 4: you would see all of the roots interconnected and it's.
- 40:04Speaker 1: A beautiful image.
- 40:05Speaker 4: Yeah, and they don't tip over because they have someone
- 40:08Speaker 4: else helping them up. And so the most important thing
- 40:10Speaker 4: for all of us is to be rooted ourselves. There's
- 40:12Speaker 4: an actual New Testament scripture to be rooted and grounded
- 40:15Speaker 4: in love.
- 40:17Speaker 3: That's a beautiful phrase.
- 40:19Speaker 4: If you could be rooted and grounded in love, if
- 40:21Speaker 4: everybody could, the problems we have right now are gone,
- 40:24Speaker 4: because that's our go to. Our go to isn't i'm angry,
- 40:28Speaker 4: you're wrong. My go to is I'm rooted and grounded
- 40:32Speaker 4: in love, kindness and all of those things. So I think,
- 40:36Speaker 4: just metaphorically, the sequoias make a lot of sense to
- 40:38Speaker 4: be able to understand that all of us in this
- 40:41Speaker 4: room in some way we'll be connected with our long roots.
- 40:44Speaker 1: That's really beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. So I
- 40:48Speaker 1: had a terrible breakup.
- 40:50Speaker 2: I was so sad.
- 40:51Speaker 1: I think I even cried too on the phone one day,
- 40:53Speaker 1: which probably made you so uncomfortable.
- 40:56Speaker 3: Just another daughter.
- 41:00Speaker 1: And then I started training for a triathlon and you
- 41:03Speaker 1: said I did a marathon. And I had no idea
- 41:07Speaker 1: because I knew you were athletic skateboard with your grandsons.
- 41:12Speaker 1: You're major skier. I met you while you were playing
- 41:15Speaker 1: basketball with a bunch of twenty year olds. Yeah, why
- 41:19Speaker 1: the marathon.
- 41:20Speaker 4: I got goaded into it just friends. You know, we're
- 41:24Speaker 4: going to do it, and I thought, wow, I could
- 41:25Speaker 4: do that. I've done one that tells you how much
- 41:27Speaker 4: fun it was.
- 41:28Speaker 3: It seems brutal, it's hard, it's not easy.
- 41:30Speaker 1: It's not easy at all. But it's always been important
- 41:33Speaker 1: for you to be an athlete.
- 41:35Speaker 3: Yeah. I think physically fit makes you mentally strong. So
- 41:38Speaker 3: it just starts the day, right.
- 41:39Speaker 4: I was listening to a podcast this morning and he
- 41:42Speaker 4: was talking about his nine steps it's been a joy
- 41:45Speaker 4: or whatever, and one of his was get up early.
- 41:47Speaker 3: And I've always done it. My kids always do it.
- 41:49Speaker 3: It's just a process of life.
- 41:51Speaker 1: And what's early.
- 41:52Speaker 3: I get up at four or five thirty five to
- 41:54Speaker 3: five thirty.
- 41:55Speaker 4: Like when I first started this new gig, I was
- 41:57Speaker 4: up at four forty five, just because I wanted to
- 41:58Speaker 4: kind of you know, get there right anyway. But it's
- 42:01Speaker 4: always starts with the workout of some kind.
- 42:04Speaker 1: So you've had so many big wins. Have you had
- 42:07Speaker 1: any missteps along the way.
- 42:10Speaker 4: As far as career life, everybody has headwinds, right, Like
- 42:13Speaker 4: I said, I went through a divorce. It was bad
- 42:15Speaker 4: for everybody, for my kids especially. They struggled and that's
- 42:18Speaker 4: been something I've been trying to rectify over the years.
- 42:22Speaker 3: But it led to some great things.
- 42:24Speaker 4: You know, I'm madly in love with Lonnie and it's
- 42:27Speaker 4: worked out really great. I think my ex wife is
- 42:29Speaker 4: happy with her situation. But those are tough times. So
- 42:32Speaker 4: that was a probably personally, that was probably the worst. Professionally,
- 42:36Speaker 4: there's jobs you don't get, there's times when you know
- 42:39Speaker 4: it's not quite going the way you want, but nothing
- 42:41Speaker 4: that's been astronomical like my personal with.
- 42:45Speaker 1: Your divorce, would you say that it was a bad
- 42:49Speaker 1: two years or was it more than that?
- 42:51Speaker 3: In the relationship. No in getting over it. Yeah, it
- 42:56Speaker 3: was a couple of years without a question. Yeah. Yeah.
- 42:58Speaker 1: I often hear people's like clock at at about two
- 43:01Speaker 1: or three years, and I was wondering if.
- 43:03Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a process to it, and you try to
- 43:06Speaker 4: really protect the kids and making the decision that I made,
- 43:10Speaker 4: you eventually put that hurt on them and they you know,
- 43:14Speaker 4: we're all working through that stone. I mean in a
- 43:16Speaker 4: good way. I'm really good friends with them. I mean,
- 43:18Speaker 4: you talk about people that I admire. I admire Lonnie
- 43:20Speaker 4: to no end. She's the most amazing person. And the
- 43:23Speaker 4: reason is she's very consistent, she's smart, she's funny, she's driven,
- 43:27Speaker 4: she's kind. I mean, I can't you know. I could
- 43:30Speaker 4: go on and on, and then every guy listened to
- 43:32Speaker 4: this would go, I want a Lonnie.
- 43:33Speaker 1: You know, you guys have a really beautiful relationship.
- 43:36Speaker 4: Yeah, we do, but it comes from a mutual respective
- 43:38Speaker 4: But then my children are the other people that I
- 43:40Speaker 4: admire the most because they're resilient, they're all smart, they're
- 43:43Speaker 4: all funny, they're all kind.
- 43:45Speaker 3: All of them are amazing.
- 43:47Speaker 4: And now I have ten grandkids and they're raising them
- 43:50Speaker 4: to be the same thing. So when I ask my
- 43:52Speaker 4: kids for their word of the year. One of our
- 43:54Speaker 4: granddaughters said, I'm going to be kind. I'm going to
- 43:56Speaker 4: be kind all year. And it's interesting how you put
- 43:59Speaker 4: a word in your mind intay of like a list
- 44:01Speaker 4: of things, and that little girl has been given the
- 44:04Speaker 4: Kindness award in her class.
- 44:06Speaker 3: I think for four straight years since we did that.
- 44:09Speaker 1: What do you want your legacy to be?
- 44:11Speaker 3: It's different for different things.
- 44:13Speaker 4: I hope my kids will always refer to me my
- 44:15Speaker 4: dad was kind, he loved me, and that he cared
- 44:19Speaker 4: for my needs. I just hope that they understand that
- 44:22Speaker 4: they are the world to me, and I hope Lonnie
- 44:25Speaker 4: feels the same way. I hope Lonnie feels safe with me.
- 44:28Speaker 4: I hope she feels that I'm kind to her and
- 44:30Speaker 4: that I represent us as a couple in the world
- 44:33Speaker 4: as a kind, loving person.
- 44:35Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you know. I'm wondering if you
- 44:37Speaker 1: know how much you've impacted my life.
- 44:39Speaker 3: I don't.
- 44:40Speaker 1: You don't.
- 44:41Speaker 4: Well, I know you've had success, but I don't think.
- 44:43Speaker 4: I mean, you've got a lot of people that are
- 44:45Speaker 4: touch points you.
- 44:47Speaker 1: It makes me cry when I think about you. Aside
- 44:50Speaker 1: from my parents, You've been the single most impactful person
- 44:54Speaker 1: in my life.
- 44:55Speaker 3: Oh wow, I did not know that.
- 44:57Speaker 1: I don't think you knew that. I love the way
- 45:01Speaker 1: you live. You live your life with I've never met
- 45:07Speaker 1: anybody like you. And I went to your Sorry, I
- 45:11Speaker 1: went to your retirement party, and I thought that you
- 45:14Speaker 1: and I had a special bond and there were so
- 45:17Speaker 1: many people there that felt the exact same way. And
- 45:22Speaker 1: I left thinking, that is a life well lived. You
- 45:27Speaker 1: really just did it.
- 45:29Speaker 3: That's very kind.
- 45:31Speaker 1: It was incredible. I've never seen anything like that. At
- 45:34Speaker 1: every intersection you you have a way with people, and
- 45:41Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever gotten to thank you.
- 45:45Speaker 1: And I just you changed that. I said this in
- 45:49Speaker 1: the intro, but the story I tell people when I
- 45:53Speaker 1: met you is that I was so excited that I
- 45:55Speaker 1: met the GM of NBC and I thought, oh maybe
- 46:00Speaker 1: he would hire me and he could change he could
- 46:03Speaker 1: change my career, And you changed my life. It was
- 46:05Speaker 1: so much more profound because I saw, I saw the
- 46:09Speaker 1: way you lived, and I've never seen anybody live like you.
- 46:13Speaker 1: I'll stop crying now, but I've always wanted to tell
- 46:16Speaker 1: you that.
- 46:16Speaker 3: Oh thank you, so thank.
- 46:18Speaker 4: You, thank you more than welcome. You know you've done
- 46:21Speaker 4: it all on your own. If I gave you a
- 46:22Speaker 4: little you know, lift, I'm happy. I'm happy, but you know,
- 46:27Speaker 4: I do love people, and you know, one of the
- 46:30Speaker 4: things I hope my team will remember and wherever I've
- 46:32Speaker 4: worked is that I've led with vision and with joy
- 46:35Speaker 4: and that their life is joyous when we work together
- 46:38Speaker 4: and it's not just a job. So I think that's
- 46:40Speaker 4: what you feel is they may not have felt that
- 46:41Speaker 4: before from a boss.
- 46:43Speaker 1: You give people such support, and I think everybody, especially
- 46:49Speaker 1: in LA is looking for support. That's interesting, you know, Okay,
- 46:55Speaker 1: we have a rapid fire. Okay, a word or a
- 46:57Speaker 1: mantra that is meaningful to you kind.
- 47:00Speaker 4: I also have another one that my kids will say.
- 47:02Speaker 4: As far as a phrase, I always use, Yeah, you
- 47:04Speaker 4: don't ask, you don't get.
- 47:06Speaker 1: I like that. My mom always said that a recent
- 47:09Speaker 1: discovery that you wish you knew about.
- 47:10Speaker 3: Earlier, Oh hair transplants, a book.
- 47:20Speaker 1: You read that changed your life, something that you think
- 47:22Speaker 1: everybody should read.
- 47:23Speaker 3: Oh Boy, seven Habits is great.
- 47:26Speaker 4: I'd probably also go with As a Man Thinketh by
- 47:29Speaker 4: James Allen is a great one, and the second edition
- 47:32Speaker 4: is really great because it's a cutdown version as a
- 47:34Speaker 4: man thinketh.
- 47:35Speaker 1: Okay, we have a pretty smart question.
- 47:38Speaker 4: Okay, this is a question I get to ask, Yeah,
- 47:41Speaker 4: what are you still trying to prove to yourself and
- 47:43Speaker 4: to other people? I think this is always the toughest
- 47:46Speaker 4: part about, you know, mankind, because we're always trying to
- 47:50Speaker 4: prove something right. And I think to myself is that
- 47:55Speaker 4: I really want to prove that I'm a safe place
- 47:58Speaker 4: for people, my wife, my children, and to other people.
- 48:02Speaker 4: The only one I'm trying to prove myself to is
- 48:04Speaker 4: God that I do love him enough that I'm going
- 48:07Speaker 4: to follow and do.
- 48:07Speaker 3: The right thing.
- 48:08Speaker 1: And what is the smartest decision you've ever made?
- 48:11Speaker 3: Oh?
- 48:12Speaker 4: Boy, there's a lot of decisions that are smart, but
- 48:14Speaker 4: one was choosing a path and staying firm in it
- 48:17Speaker 4: and rooting myself in that path. The bad decisions could
- 48:20Speaker 4: get overweight if you're holding on and you make a
- 48:23Speaker 4: bad decision, you're still holding on to that direction that
- 48:26Speaker 4: you're going. But yeah, I would just say, make a
- 48:29Speaker 4: decision to live a certain way and then following that
- 48:32Speaker 4: path and holding on and.
- 48:34Speaker 1: Sticking by it.
- 48:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 48:40Speaker 1: Okay, you know what time it is, Today's a good
- 48:43Speaker 1: day to have a good day. I'll see you next week.