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AM800 Roundtable with Alicia Higgison, Ryan Richardson, & Vanessa Shields · Kvetch & Release

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  Speaker 2: It is a Wednesday roundtable. Joined around the table by
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  Speaker 2: some great luminaries in our community.
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  Speaker 1: Alicia Higginson joins me. Alicia, Hey doing, I'm well?
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  Speaker 3: Also have Vanessa Shields. Vanessa, great to have you again.
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  Speaker 2: We also have Ryan Richardson, Ryan, how you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, let's start off this roundtable with today's a
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  Speaker 2: five two c kl W. Will Windsors Vacant Home tax
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  Speaker 2: program boost the cities housing supply? We know that over
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty complaints have been issued to Windsor's
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  Speaker 2: vacant Home tax program since it launched last spring. It's
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  Speaker 2: designed to boost the housing supply in the city by
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  Speaker 2: encouraging property owners to rent or sell properties that are
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  Speaker 2: sitting vacant, and under the program, homes that are occupied
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  Speaker 2: for more than one hundred and eighty three days and
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  Speaker 2: any given taxation year would be issued a three percent
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  Speaker 2: levy on top of their regular property taxes. If the
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  Speaker 2: owner could not provide documentation disputing the classification. At least
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  Speaker 2: let's bring your voice in on this one. Will the
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  Speaker 2: vacant home tax program boost the housing supply by incentivizing
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  Speaker 2: people to do something.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you got to imagine that it would, and
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  Speaker 5: you got to hope that it would. We're trying to
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  Speaker 5: throw everything we can at the housing issue right now.
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  Speaker 5: I think this is kind of a low stakes way
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  Speaker 5: to maybe get some of the existing supply that's currently
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  Speaker 5: built back into service for people that need it. And
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  Speaker 5: I think if we're looking at how expensive it is
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  Speaker 5: to build something that might be affordable or might be attainable,
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  Speaker 5: there's a chance that these these houses could go back
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  Speaker 5: into rotation and become that affordable and attainable housing and
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  Speaker 5: kind of start people off on that basis that they
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  Speaker 5: that we desperately need in in places like winsor Essex
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  Speaker 5: and of course everywhere else. But I think you got
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  Speaker 5: to hope that this is going to be the thing
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  Speaker 5: that does it. I applaud the city for putting this
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  Speaker 5: into place, and I am eager to see what happens
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  Speaker 5: with it. But I think if you're a responsible municipality
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  Speaker 5: in the year of our Lord twenty twenty four, you
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  Speaker 5: better be looking at all the options.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think the only issue that I have with it,
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  Speaker 2: and I mean you can probably relate to this as
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  Speaker 2: an elected official, is that it was it's a good
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  Speaker 2: policy for when it first started getting discussed, which back
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  Speaker 2: then we saw the vacant rental rate like around four percent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, back and that was just twenty twenty. But again
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  Speaker 1: that was like at the beginning of COVID. I mean
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  Speaker 1: before that it was higher.
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  Speaker 2: Now though, our rental vacancy rental rate is like two percent,
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  Speaker 2: but listen, that two percent is still it's a significant amount.
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  Speaker 2: But it goes to show that the mechanics and gears
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  Speaker 2: of government they're so slow.
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  Speaker 5: Are so slow. We try to be as diligent as
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  Speaker 5: we can in the ways that we can properly roll
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  Speaker 5: these things out, and that stuff takes time. I make
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  Speaker 5: no excuses, but it is the reality of the game
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  Speaker 5: that that, Yes, the wheels of getting anything from idea
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  Speaker 5: to execution take many layers and many people involved, and
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  Speaker 5: we're all grateful for their expertise. But if they could
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  Speaker 5: move a little faster, we'd all be we'd all be
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  Speaker 5: better shape.
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  Speaker 1: I think, what do you think about this?
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  Speaker 2: One.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, well, this is where this is. Yeah, it's it's serious.
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  Speaker 6: But I also, like, I was down at the John
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  Speaker 6: Mooy Library, been writing there a lot. It's so beautiful
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  Speaker 6: and cool, but just riding driving around the neighborhood there
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  Speaker 6: and seeing all the vacant houses like that are I
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  Speaker 6: don't even know who owns them. I don't know if
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  Speaker 6: it's mister man who used to own the bridge or whatever.
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  Speaker 6: But those were there when I was a kid, and
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  Speaker 6: the houses are still there. They're not taken down all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So like, I mean, there
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  Speaker 6: are some issues that are decades and decades long standing,
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  Speaker 6: and I don't know. I wonder also what the three
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  Speaker 6: percent penalty, like, what they're going to do with that money.
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  Speaker 6: Is it even go back into trying to, I don't know,
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  Speaker 6: build some tiny houses somewhere or you know that. That's
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  Speaker 6: where my mind goes, is what happens with the money
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  Speaker 6: that they're going to get from the penalty and how
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  Speaker 6: will that help? And maybe the answer is there, and
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  Speaker 6: I mean I'm just ignorant to it.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know about revitalizing those neighborhoods, yeah, and
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  Speaker 5: just being able to for people to be able to
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  Speaker 5: kind of walk around their neighborhoods and see that.
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  Speaker 6: They're and it was busy, like there's tons of students
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  Speaker 6: around there, just like you know, regular folks who live
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  Speaker 6: in that area. It's not like there weren't people walking
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  Speaker 6: around and it wasn't vibrate. Plus they're doing tends of
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  Speaker 6: construction down there too, so like the businesses are taking
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  Speaker 6: a bit of a hit on that too. But anyway,
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  Speaker 6: just yeah, I noticed that when I was in that neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: So that revenue that's generated from the program will be
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  Speaker 2: reinvested in, Okay, some housing solutions, So just give a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more context. We're not talking about thousands upon
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  Speaker 2: thousands of homes here. It's the city actually says it's
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty to five hundred, which I want
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  Speaker 2: to be like excited about this program, but like two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty to five hundred homes is well a
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  Speaker 2: significant amount of homes, don't get me wrong. It's also
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  Speaker 2: a drop in the bucket to the affordable housing weightless
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  Speaker 2: that we have, which I think is at like I
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  Speaker 2: think eight to ten thousand right now. It's increased by
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  Speaker 2: thousands since the last time I went and took a
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  Speaker 2: look at it. It's a tough situation, Ryan, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like this is the city we live in, it's our community.
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  Speaker 1: People need places to live. It's just I get so.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I used to get frustrated when talking about this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm just getting to be moralized about it because
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  Speaker 2: the solutions seem like they're getting further and further away
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  Speaker 2: as more and more people are showing up here and
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  Speaker 2: buying homes. And we need that, but it makes the
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  Speaker 2: situation tougher for those who are already here.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer is. Do you can
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  Speaker 1: you fix it?
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  Speaker 4: Can I fix it? Right? This might?
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  Speaker 1: Now you see what I can do?
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  Speaker 4: Let me see what I can do. I was in
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  Speaker 4: that area yesterday. I went to universityho Winds there very
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  Speaker 4: very a long time ago, and I vaguely remember it,
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  Speaker 4: but I was driving through and I drove through those
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  Speaker 4: neighborhoods that I used to hang out in, those houses,
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  Speaker 4: and that like, to let that go to where it
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  Speaker 4: is is disgraceful on so many levels. And to just
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  Speaker 4: let it stay like that, Like you said, who owns it?
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  Speaker 4: Who's accountable for it? I'd like to see that certainly.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you go to different cities, you go to
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  Speaker 4: different universities, and you see what's happening around the vicinity
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  Speaker 4: and how it's built up and all those kinds of things,
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  Speaker 4: and I just it's very disappointing it has been over
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  Speaker 4: the last several years to kind of drive through there
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  Speaker 4: and just see the difference and see the change from
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  Speaker 4: when I was a kid at the school. And one
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  Speaker 4: of the things too, is keeping the word affordable in there. Right,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of times the question get answered gets answered
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  Speaker 4: without the word affordable in it, and we want to
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  Speaker 4: make sure there's affordable housing for people something that and
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  Speaker 4: again what's affordable changes you know on a regular basis
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  Speaker 4: as well, but keeping that word in there to make
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  Speaker 4: sure that that questions answered.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's it's the triple, right, there's affordable, attainable, and
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  Speaker 2: then there's market. And that's like when I get frustrated
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  Speaker 2: with politicians when they throw around the word affordable, but
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  Speaker 2: they're talking about attainable, or sometimes you get grouped into
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  Speaker 2: market as well, what is looking like affordable because you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking with a group of people who all have
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  Speaker 2: jobs and so that's affordable for them. But it's not
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  Speaker 2: affordable by the definition. It's complex, it's frustrating. I just
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  Speaker 2: I keep making eye contact with you elutions because like
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  Speaker 2: as an elected official.
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  Speaker 5: There is no official definition of attainable. There is an
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  Speaker 5: official definition of affordable, but it has changed under the
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  Speaker 5: current provincial government. So it's more market based than it
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  Speaker 5: is reality based. And I think we when we talk
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  Speaker 5: about what an affordable house is, we're it almost looks
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  Speaker 5: like a flat line, like this is the bottom and
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  Speaker 5: this is kind of where the affordability line is. I
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  Speaker 5: don't I think we all know things in our own
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  Speaker 5: lives which mean that affordable at some point in my
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  Speaker 5: life at this point in my life, wasn't affordable at
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  Speaker 5: another point in my life. And we know that that's
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  Speaker 5: that's the reality for a lot of people. And so
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  Speaker 5: to put a kind of a bottom line on that
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  Speaker 5: is tough. It's also really tough to build those in
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  Speaker 5: this economy. It is really tough to build more of
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  Speaker 5: those and to get more of those, and so anything
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  Speaker 5: that we can do, I take your point John about
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  Speaker 5: it being kind of feels like less than inches we
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  Speaker 5: would make even if we put all five hundred of
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  Speaker 5: these online tomorrow to fifty whatever it is. But if
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  Speaker 5: we can get any of those to come online and
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  Speaker 5: to house people, that that's a step we need to take,
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  Speaker 5: even if it's barely inches.
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  Speaker 2: Well one hundred percent, you know. Again, I'm not like,
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  Speaker 2: if we can get those five hundred homes we rented
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  Speaker 2: out or purchase sold and then purchased and families can
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  Speaker 2: move in, excellent, like we need that. There's no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't ever mean to disparage the hard work
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  Speaker 2: that's done by our elected officials and our administration. There's
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  Speaker 2: obviously so much effort that we appreciate you put into it.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's one of those situations that I don't blame,
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  Speaker 2: you know, any current elected officials for the situation we're in.
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  Speaker 2: I blame the ones of decades ago who decided to
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  Speaker 2: let us get into this place because they took quite
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  Speaker 2: frankly cheap and easy electoral politics and said let's cut
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  Speaker 2: taxes and let's download services, and then other the lower
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  Speaker 2: governments went let's just you know, not do it, and
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  Speaker 2: we find ourselves thirty years later.
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  Speaker 4: Going why are there no homes?
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, well, y'all stopped in like nineteen ninety three,
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  Speaker 2: that back if that was, you know, the early nineties.
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  Speaker 1: What a fun time.
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  Speaker 3: We got to take a quick break.
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  Speaker 2: It's nine seventeen. We'll be back after this with more
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  Speaker 2: John Leckkeith here on amide hundred CKLW. It's the Roundtable,
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  Speaker 2: joined by Alicia Higginson, Vanessa Shields and Ryan Richardson. Came
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  Speaker 2: across something yesterday that you know, statistics are weird right
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  Speaker 2: because they're just data points that exist in time.
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  Speaker 1: They're like tears in rain. They're here until they're not.
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  Speaker 1: Stat Canada put like that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in tiers right now. Poetry emotions.
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  Speaker 2: Stats Canada put out a stat about that's what they do.
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  Speaker 3: It's their whole, it's their bread and butter.
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  Speaker 2: They put out some stats about recorded burglary incidents in
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  Speaker 2: Canadian cities. They calculated it by taking the total number
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  Speaker 2: of incidents of burglary provided for one hundred thousand people,
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  Speaker 2: rank the cities from highest incidents to lowest incidents, and taking.
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  Speaker 1: A look here.
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  Speaker 2: Lethbridge, Alberta comes in at eight hundred and forty eight
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  Speaker 2: instances per one hundred thousand. That is a lot to
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  Speaker 2: put into context, Saint John, Newfoundland comes in I should
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  Speaker 2: say Newfoundland and Labrador comes in at three hundred and
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  Speaker 2: seventy eight, so vastest parody, but that's number ten. We
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  Speaker 2: and Windsor sit at thirteen with three hundred and forty four.
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  Speaker 2: I think the best way to put our number into
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  Speaker 2: context is to compare us with Toronto. So as where
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  Speaker 2: we're at three forty four, Toronto was only coming in
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  Speaker 2: at one ninety nine. A lot more burglary is happening
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  Speaker 2: here in Windsor, Ryan, what do you think about this one?
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  Speaker 2: I was, you know, generally surprised by this, but then I.
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  Speaker 3: Started to think about it.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, eh, I guess it kind of does
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  Speaker 1: make sense.
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  Speaker 4: Finally we beat Saskatoon. That's the first thing I thought
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  Speaker 4: was we beat Saskatoon on something. This is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Fair Kitchener Waterloo Cambridge comes in at number twelve.
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  Speaker 1: We're number thirteen. So hey, yeah, you take that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, here's the difference between say us in Toronto, for example,
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot more porches that Amazon people are leaving
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  Speaker 4: on the you know, leaving packages on in the dark
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  Speaker 4: point Because now that ranks I'm sure in this number.
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  Speaker 4: As far as as burglary people that just walk up
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  Speaker 4: and start taking packages. And when you said recorded burglar,
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  Speaker 4: is not that. Maybe on the ring camera, maybe that's
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  Speaker 4: how many were recorded, but it's actually no.
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  Speaker 1: Well I report I think recorded as.
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  Speaker 4: Self reported by the burglars.
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  Speaker 3: I got all. I know Stats Canada needs these numbers.
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  Speaker 4: I felt an obligation of self report. We want to
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  Speaker 4: make sure the hamburgler, of course that was involved in.
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  Speaker 5: That, and how many my number in that data.
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  Speaker 4: That's right. I just want to be counted. I just
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  Speaker 4: want to be counting.
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  Speaker 5: You make a good point, though, it's the question that
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  Speaker 5: I had when I'm like, when I was looking at this,
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  Speaker 5: I had a lot more questions than I had reflections
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  Speaker 5: about you know what, what goes into this? Who reports it?
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  Speaker 5: I know that from school boards and from municipalities, we
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  Speaker 5: don't all report things the same way. We don't all
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  Speaker 5: report we know what we're reporting to, but some of
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  Speaker 5: our data sets are a little bit different. We don't
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  Speaker 5: all gather data in the same way, and and what
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  Speaker 5: sorts of things are being reported to these to make
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  Speaker 5: left bridges number the way that it is. There's probably
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  Speaker 5: a lot of social factors and environment factors that contribute
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  Speaker 5: to being higher on this list. But I gotta wonder
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  Speaker 5: what was what goes into that, what goes into that number,
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  Speaker 5: and how does each area report those things? What's captured
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  Speaker 5: in their in their data that maybe isn't captured in
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  Speaker 5: some of the lower numbers to your point about maybe
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  Speaker 5: Porsch pirates aren't captured in the Toronto data, but maybe
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  Speaker 5: they're captured in ours or more in Lethidge, let's say.
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  Speaker 5: But it did make me wonder there's kind of no
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  Speaker 5: thread that I could find between kind of the top
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  Speaker 5: fifteen cities or municipalities or areas even not really a
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  Speaker 5: thread that I could find other than the obvious things
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  Speaker 5: of we're all experiencing an economic crisis, we're all experiencing
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  Speaker 5: homeless crisis, we're all experiencing, uh, the affordability crisis. I
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  Speaker 5: that's the only thread. But if that's the only thread,
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  Speaker 5: then that puts this level again. So so it made
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  Speaker 5: me wonder what's underneath all that data that we're actually
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  Speaker 5: not seeing in there, and and what does it mean
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  Speaker 5: we saw that. I took a look through some of
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  Speaker 5: that Twitter thread, and the advocates that are looking at
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  Speaker 5: regularly looking at things like car theft or regularly looking
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  Speaker 5: at things like porch pirates regularly. They're all going to say, oh,
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  Speaker 5: this is because of this issue. But but it's not plaining.
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  Speaker 5: It's not plain in that data for us to be
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  Speaker 5: making an assumption about.
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  Speaker 2: That, it's it's it's tough to infer again, like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: Stat's Canada. It's great that you get the statistics, but
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  Speaker 2: now give us the context.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess that's a new ministry. We could have
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  Speaker 1: context Canada. It would be great.
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  Speaker 2: It's the dumbest thing I've said all that.
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  Speaker 6: I immediately went to cars, but that might be in
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  Speaker 6: its own field of data collection and thinking about how
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  Speaker 6: there was if I don't even know if.
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  Speaker 2: It's still hang car theft is recorded as car theft.
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  Speaker 6: Agree, Yeah, so yeah, I'm breaking into Yeah that's because
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  Speaker 6: that was in our neighborhood. Was like a pandemic happening recently.
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  Speaker 6: So I don't know. Yeah, for sure, you always got
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  Speaker 6: a question where they get the information and who, like
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  Speaker 6: do we would we have gotten an email from stat
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  Speaker 6: Scale like I've never gotten a name, but from STAT Scanada, like,
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  Speaker 6: hey tell me about this in your life. So for sure,
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  Speaker 6: wondering how they get their Information for sure.
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  Speaker 2: All I know is I worked for Stats Canada when
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Harper got rid of the census and it became the
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: no Census and we didn't have legal authority, and I
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: would just be like, hey, you want to fill it out?
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: And they'd be like no, and I'd be like, well,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: that's fine, I'll see you tomorrow.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I did that for four months, made a lot of friends.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you, sure me showing up day day.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Thanks for that one, Stephen Upper nine twenty eight. We're
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: gonna take a quick break. We've got the nine thirty
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Information Update coming up next with Paul McDonald and I'm
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: you know, hey, if the former Prime Minister is listening,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: I say that all in jest.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: We're back after this.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Hey, we're back, John letkee here am one hundred cekw
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: We're all riding through this round table just a little bit.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: We're so glad to be joined by t Comescy Counts,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: their ward win, Alicia Higginson in the studio, Vanessa Shields
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: as well, and Ryan Richardson. Listen, I mean we all
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: put the pedal to the medal. Sometimes maybe not all
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: the way, but like listen, sometimes we leave the house
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: and we think it's gonna be a five minute drive
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: and it turns into like, oh no, there's traffic. I
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: wasn't expecting it. I gotta go down another side street.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I got to make up for some lost time. According
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: to a new survey, drivers in the US and Portland,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Oregon are most likely to deal with speeding related incidents,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: followed by Kansas City, Missouri, and Jacksonville, Florida. But this
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: survey also found SUPERU drivers are the speediest, followed by
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: those with BMW's and in fidneys. And I want to
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: know about you, guys. You ever pushed the pedal to
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the medal? You ever or do you often get pulled
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: over for speeding? Probably not a great thing for an
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: elected official.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Tell my super now, I don't want to be targeted.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: It sounds like the old Crown Vic thing.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, you don't want to be in a vehicle. I
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: have a friend who was part of a group of
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: like eight people.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: And they all went out and bought Old's intrigues and
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: buicks because it's like, that's a sixty five year old
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: man car. You will never get pulled over, right, you
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: could have blacked out windows and.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: You'll be fine at all times.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Whereas I had a friend who bought an old Crown
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Vic that had the lights still on it. Oh, I said,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I was pulled over every weekend.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Cops just hated him because it's like, are you trying
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: to pretend to be us?
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: It's like, no, I'm trying to get to work, man, Ryan,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: You ever speed.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Before you can be no, no, not on a there's
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: cops that less warnings don't count.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: So there you go.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: It's like the heat warning that's in effect right.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Now, exactly, heat ticket. It's not a heat ticket. Yeah
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: it was a heat ticket. It would be a different story.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I think about speeders.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: What I think about speeders. I see them all the time,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: you know, certainly living in a border city, driving in Detroit,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: driving in Windsord, there's there's a different mode of driving
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: once you cross the border, once you get on I
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: seventy five. I mean, my goodness, there was a horrible
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: accident just the other day on I seventy five, and
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: we were over there on the weekend. And and again
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not the greatest driver in the world,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: but I'm going to speed limit, you know, trying to
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: stick to the speed limit. And you just see people
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: that aren't and couldn't care less. So yeah, it is.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: It is frustrating. They think it's the autumn and it's not.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: It's you know, I seventy five in Detroit or East Row.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: So if you this is this is the lesson that
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I learned over the years, leave earlier, you know, instead
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: of instead of like pushing and going, Okay, I got
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: twenty minutes to get there, and I'll get there just
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: in time. If I'm backed that at five minutes, I'm
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: going to be less tempted to speed. It's true, you know,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: that's just just my thing.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: Also, I think there's I mean, we're in construction season,
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: uh for this region, and I think with added cars
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: on the road and construction, your advice could not be
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: more poignant because I think, if you're trying to get
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: somewhere in twenty five minutes, it's not going to take
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: you twenty five, it's going to take you thirty five.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: And it's it's in the name of improvement. But also
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: I will repeat the thing that I try to repeat
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: every single time I'm on this radio, which is we
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: are traffic. If we are in a car, we are traffic.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: So it's not everybody else. It's not everybody else, it's
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: also us. And so if I'm speeding and then I
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: have to slow down quickly and get in somewhere, else,
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: I'm causing a traffic problem. And then I'm causing someone
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: to speed around me. And so if I am traffic
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: as we all are when we are driving a car,
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: if we take some measure of responsibility for our own
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: need to get somewhere, then we can cut down on
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: a little bit of that. I think everybody does speed.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: I grew up in a small town where if you
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: got pulled over by the cops, everybody knew about it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: So I was always way too embarrassed, and also I
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: didn't want my mom to know, so so I tried
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: not to speed. But then you get on these you
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: know your county roads, and you're going pretty fast. I've
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: been pulled over a few times, not in my adult life.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: If my children are listening, your mother is still very
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: much a law abiding SIPs in. But but I think
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: there is a piece here to like you are not
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: you're not getting there faster. Then you're not getting there
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: faster than Google says you are. I know, it's like
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: a bit of a race with the GPS to try
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: to be like, I can definitely get there faster one minute,
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: you can't. And if you are, then you're causing problems
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: for somewhere else down the line or somewhere further up
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: the line, So just go the speed limit. I also
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: had a guy at a I went to a PD
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: session about bike bike safety. He gives this whole thing
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: about how bikes must be the issue and it's the
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: bikers that are that are the issues cyclist, No, it's
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: a cyclist that are the issue. He gives this whole
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: thing and it was very tongue in cheek, and at
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: the end of it he says, raise your hand if
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: you care about cycle safety. Of course all this in
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: the room are like absolutely hands all raised. Yeah, you're right,
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: And then he says, put your hand down if you
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: never speed. And so he's like, he was like, you
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: are the problem. You're here talking about all these things
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: that we need to do, but you don't participate yourself
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: in the thing that you're trying to get other people
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: to do. And it, honestly, it was two years ago
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: and I still think about it whenever I'm driving somewhere
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: and I see like forty kilometer an hour. I'm like,
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: I know I'm not doing forty. I'm doing right, So
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: I'm going to slow down a little bit. It does
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: make you think, like when you're kind of called out,
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: it does make.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: You think that's you know, that's it's really interesting. I
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: like to always say as well, when it comes to
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: like just shifting gears, just a little bit shifting gears,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: that's when it comes to like cycling. And when people
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: say I don't want any bikes on the roads, I
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: go like, yeah, me too, Like I'd love dedicated protected
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: bike lanes. But then I heard, you know, from the
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Cycling Committee going, John, don't say that, because that's not
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: happening anytime soon. And that's just politically speaking, and we
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: need to get to a point where we have to
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: just accept that no bikes do belong on the roads,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: just like cars do and scooters and the whole new
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: world of e things that we have, and everyone just
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: needs to fall the rules of the road because they
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: are for all of us.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Vanessa.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: It's just our roads are weird places. What do you
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: think when it goes to speeding and driving and drivers.
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: So my experience is, I mean, I think we talked
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: about this in the last roundtable, there is an inordinate
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: amount of people who speed through red lights. So I've
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: become a very defensive driver and a very nervous driver
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: because like, when my light turns green, I'm not going,
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: I'm looking all around to make sure it's safe for
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: me to go. Same with advanced greens, people just go
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: on the red like it's crazy. So anyway, but about speeding,
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: I feel like I'm noticing an extreme dichotomy of this.
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: So either people are speeding and they're like you can
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: see them coming up behind you, especially on the expressway,
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: and they're passing in both lanes. It doesn't matter this
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: whole lake. The left lane is the fast lane. Ninety
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: percent of people I think have forgotten or don't know
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: that A so I just get out of the way,
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: or B they don't eat go the speed limit, especially
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: on the expressway, and that causes someone who is behind
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: and not able to then merge. You have to speed,
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: or or you have like it's it's so dangerous and
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: a whole other level. So to me, I feel like
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: the sweet spot, we've lost the sweet spot of where
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: everyone's going the speed limit or just a little above,
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: or we're speeding like crazy, or we're not going nearly
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: quick enough, which to me is more dangerous. So and
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: I have two kids who are now like one, my
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: son just got his G two and my daughter's just
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: learning doing the online stuff. So I'm gonna have two
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: kids in cars, and it's I'm terrified for them. And
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: of course we're trying to teach them the rules, and
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: they're going to all the classes to learn and doing
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: the in car and stuff. We're luckily able to have
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: that for them, but like they're scared, and uh, and
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: I've been I've not never had a speeding ticket, but
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: I've been in the car with someone who got a
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: speeding ticket. I've been in the car when we were
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: pulled over for speeding when we weren't speeding, Like I've
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: had all kinds of different experiences with being pulled over,
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: but I have not had a speeding ticket myself. But
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: I also noticed that there's so much is it called
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: traffic calming now with like the little digital signs that
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: say like slow down, and I heard that like you
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: can get a ticket from that. So I don't know
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: if that's happening yet or if that's a real thing
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: or not. Maybe I'm starting a rumor. Yes, okay, that's
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: to me, that's great and necessary. But and also the
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: like posts in the middle of the streets amazing, And
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: these are around the schools, like and there are there's
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: tons of schools everywhere, so like I'm driving in that
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: all the time, and I'm very appreciated of that. It
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: keeps me in check. I feel like we're all going
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: to be collectively safer for the children and the kids
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: who are needing to cross the streets. But I can
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: see that the city is doing stuff to try and
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: deal with speeding issues. But it's definitely completely different world
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: driving or not world driving situation now in the city
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: now I was an adult as when I was sixteen
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: and I got my license, like completely different.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: One person's texting and I think what we're seeing is
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of aggressive drivers coming from other areas who
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: are customed to driving more aggressively. I think to Toronto.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Then the person says, we need more photo radar, and
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I think like windsor rights.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Are just weird drivers. Is sort of just how I feel.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I think windsor rights are just so used to it
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: being just the five minute drive to get to wherever
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: you're going that when it's not that five minutes, all
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the rules just are thrown out the window. If it
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: rains in this city, I swear, or snows, it's like
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: nothing matters.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: There are no lines on the road.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: The lights don't mean anything. Even just yesterday I was.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Driving and I was coming out of an alley downtown
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: making a left onto I think Chatham Street, Yeah, Chatham Street,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: and just a car was just speeding the wrong way
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: down the one way street in the lane that I was.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: About to turn into. See and it was just like
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: They got to Polisher where Villains is and they made
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: her right onto that, and it's like that's a one
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: way too, Like how do people not tell when all
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: of the cars are coming at you and you can't
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: read any sign, you're going the wrong way. And it's
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: just like you said a Leisha, like you see the
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: sign that says.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Forty, I'm not going forty. I know I'm not going forty,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: So just pay attention to the signs.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, I started by saying I don't don't speed
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: or try not to speed, but then I do. Now
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: I'm realizing. My wife sometimes grips the side of the
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: car while I'm driving, so I have to rethink that.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: One of the things that I've I've really been working
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: on for a while is those last minute decisions. It
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: seems like a lot of accidents happen because people say, oh,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: I want to turn and go into the store, and
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: they make a quick decision. So I've really tried to
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: focus on knowing the route that I'm taking, you know,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: and if I'm going to change lanes, I'm going to
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: really be careful, like I said, looking all around you
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: and what could be up ahead. But that's I've tried
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: to reduced my last minute decisions of oh, let's go
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: over here, because I.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: See I see a link between what you just said
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: and what Wes was saying about having a new driver.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: So my daughter's a wit to drive, and you notice
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: so much the aggressive driving, the distracted driving. You notice
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: it so much more. And so I've become that too,
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Ryan where I'm like, now I think a little bit
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: more because I in my mind I think, oh, I'm
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: just trying to teach them, like I'm going to show
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: them the ways to do it. But actually it's because
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: I hope that they do that for my kids and
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: I mean the number of times we've been at an
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: advanced left green light and my daughter takes a second
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: and she gets honked at, and then it makes her
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: I see her get and so I know that that's happening,
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: and I know what happens to me. Even though I'm
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: an experienced driver, it does happen to me. Either it's
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: aggression or it's or it's it's fear, and then it
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: contributes to my inability to make a really good choice there.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: I do a lot of like hand raising, like when
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: someone's riding my tail, which happens a lot. I'll put
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: my hands up and I'll be like, there's traffic in
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: front of me, there's nowhere to go, and I'll do
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: this and then I'll throw out a peace sign and
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: sometimes it works in the light back off, but sometimes
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: it doesn't. But I'm literally like, there's nowhere for us
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: to go. Why are you being so crossive traffic? Can
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: I just say this too? We just we had to
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: drive to Toronto. We saw four teslas in the fast lane.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: All of the drivers were watching a movie or some
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: kind of video on their screen. Terrifying not getting out
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: of the fast lane like Toronto area terrifying.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I love the idea of self driving cars. I don't
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: think that we're there, no, I.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Think so it's a privilege that were the test cases
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: in fifty years are going to be amazing.
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: But hopefully we'll all be riding bikes, hoverboard.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: We're going to take a quick break right now.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: It's nine forty seven. Well be back right after this.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Here a hundred c W.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Can you call this breaking news?
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I'm going to call it breaking because of breaking for me,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: breaking your heart.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I suppose maybe for some this is just coming. You
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: can hear it right here. It's on Instagram.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Apparently the Paul Martin, the Low Martin House has sold
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: to a Toronto developer. There's talk of maybe them tearing
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: it down putting up a three story condominium.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: How would that be dealt with in our city.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We're just going to keep an eye
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: on this right now. Again, we're just hearing about this
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: coming out from one of those ultra connected Instagram social
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: media accounts.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: But we want to keep this show going.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Right now with a conversation.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: There's so much that's happening on our screens, whether it
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: be the silver screen, our TV screens or on our
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: cell phone.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: However you watch this. I don't think you should watching
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Oppenheimer though, on your cell phone. Ryan, I want to
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: talk with you. First. Deadpool and Wolverine huge thing. Have
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: you seen it yet?
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Yes? How'd you like it? Twice?
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Twice?
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: What's happening?
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Because it's Deadpool and Wolverines. The script is so fast
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: you literally you have to see it a second time
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: to catch everything that was going on. Oh, I loved it.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: I thought it was I thought it was hysterical. Yeah,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: what are you watching this summer? This summer is a
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: long legs it was. There's a nice, happy, fun fan frightening.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: It was really good. Nicholas Cage was awesome.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: It was good. Yeah, just looking forward to kind of
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: seeing what else is coming out. There's no real Barbenheimer.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: I think Deadpool and Wolverine with the Barbenheimer this this year,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken. Did you see it as well?
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: I did?
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I liked it.
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  Speaker 3: It was fun, fast paced. There were just some of
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  Speaker 3: the really subtle references.
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  Speaker 2: I thought were great, Like there was the demolished twentieth
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  Speaker 2: century Fox sign, which was excellent. CN Tower was great
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  Speaker 2: to see in that same scene, but it was a
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  Speaker 2: love story I.
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  Speaker 1: Liked to Fox as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like it wouldn't have been able to
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  Speaker 2: happen without, you know, the past iterations that got to
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  Speaker 2: this whole cinematic. We're gonna bring you on again to
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: talk at another point about this whole doctor doom.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yea with Robert Downey.
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  Speaker 4: He couldn't just let them have the weekend. He had.
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  Speaker 3: The weeknd.
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  Speaker 2: But I still think that people should be pretty happy
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  Speaker 2: that he hasn't been recast as T'Challa.
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  Speaker 4: So right, right, well that soon, yeah too soon, Tropic
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  Speaker 4: thunder too anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Alicia, how about yourself watching anything these days?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I just we just went.
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  Speaker 5: I took my daughters to see Twisters. So I am.
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  Speaker 5: I am a person who when I was fourteen, I
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  Speaker 5: watched Twister for the first time. I left the movie
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  Speaker 5: theater being like, I'm definitely gonna storm watch.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm my.
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  Speaker 5: Storm chaser for sure, and my dad very sweetly was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: that'll never happen, but moved up. It did not happen
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  Speaker 5: as he rightly predicted, So I got to bring my
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  Speaker 5: fourteen year old Yeah, and and I loved the the original,
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  Speaker 5: and I really did love this one. It's a very
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  Speaker 5: different kind of movie. I thought it would feel the same,
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: it didn't. It felt very different and it was a
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  Speaker 5: different story. And actually it was a little tongue cheek
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  Speaker 5: make in front of people like me who were like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to storm Chase and yeah, so I appreciated
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  Speaker 5: little tongue in cheek. But it was awesome. And then
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  Speaker 5: I got to bring my fourteen year old who left
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: the theater being like maybe I could do that, and
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: I was like, well, in the circle, but not movies.
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  Speaker 5: We watched a great show at Media not too too
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  Speaker 5: long ago, and Meeter is a great venue to watch
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: a live music at and they bring in great artists
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  Speaker 5: and we watched Great Lake Swimmers and it was an
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  Speaker 5: incredible show. So anything I can watch there at Media
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: whenever I can get tickets and celles aure pretty fast.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: But Great Lake Swimmers was was a fantastic show, and
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  Speaker 5: so I.
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  Speaker 1: Really loved that, very cool stuff. I need to see Twisters.
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  Speaker 2: I was in Florida when I think I was like
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  Speaker 2: I probably like five or six, went with my grandparents
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  Speaker 2: and a cousin and we went to Universal Studios and
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  Speaker 2: they had just opened up the Twisters. It wasn't really
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  Speaker 2: a ride, It was more of like a showing experience.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: They had a truck that flew in front of you
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  Speaker 2: and lots of fans and stuff, and it was It
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  Speaker 2: was terrifying at the age of five, almost as terrifying
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  Speaker 2: as the Jaws ride where the sharp came right at
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  Speaker 2: me in the perk spot for it.
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  Speaker 1: I hated it. Thanks Dad for that one.
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  Speaker 3: Hey Vanasa, you watch anything good? You see anything good?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I've seen Deadpool, I've seen Twisters, which was super fun.
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  Speaker 6: We just watched Fall Guy, which I wasn't quite sure
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  Speaker 6: how I was going to feel about it, but it
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: was really sweet and good, and the special effects and
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: like reflexivity of the film business I really appreciated because
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  Speaker 6: we love that. And I'm craving that you've just brought
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: up Jaws. Like there's a like fifteen summer movies that
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: I always watch. I've already watched Shirley Valentine. If you
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: haven't seen it and you want to go to Greece,
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: it's a great one. Isn't oldie, but a goodie. But
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: I'm craving Jaws, so I'm probably gonna watch that like
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: either tonight or tomorrow. But that's definitely a summer Grand
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: Slam movie you had to watch. I love Deadpool. I
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: love Ryan Reynolds. I love his humor. Can you say
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: ballsy on the radio? I appreciate his uh like this
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: social commentary that Ryan Reynolds wraps up in like amongst
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: the cursing and the blood violence, He's really like got
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: powerful social commentary in his film. So I really appreciate
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: that too, and definitely need to see it again. I agree,
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  Speaker 6: it's I know I missed a bunch of stuff. I
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: would love to see the script to just to read
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  Speaker 6: it and see even more that I will miss because
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: of the speed of the of the language in the dialogue.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: But Canada exports and teen the export maple syrup, and
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: we export incredibly sexy.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan's yes.
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  Speaker 4: Very much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryan, let's bring your apt voice in right now.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: You're one of the three. I suppose we could say
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  Speaker 2: of our very sexy Ryan Exports, Thank you very much.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: What do you want to plug in?
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Emancipation?
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  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Do you belie? This weekend on Sunday, there's a discussion
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: community conversation about the Jackson Park band Shell happening at
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: the Jackson Park Bandshell from one to three. You can
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  Speaker 4: get all your information at saved the Bandshell dot com.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: That saveth bandshell dot com. And we're just going to
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: keep that conversation going about the history of the banshell
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: and the significance in wind Windsor in Essex County history.
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  Speaker 2: It's incredibly important. I love the banchall. I hope that
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  Speaker 2: we can get to a point where it can be safe.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Alicia, what needs to be plugged in?
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  Speaker 5: So you've heard me talk before on this program about
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: Julian's House. So I'm the president and chair of the
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: board of directors for Julian's House. It's a local charity
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: that does free grief and briefment support for folks experiencing
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: a loss in Windsor Essex. All of our programming is
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: one hundred percent donor funded. So on that note, we
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: are having a really big fundraiser right now a cruise
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: and more lottery. So for twenty bucks a ticket, you
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: can win a sixteen thousand dollars cruise and there's lots
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: of early bird prizes and there's also a cash value
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: prize if you don't want to take the cruise. But
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: so you can get in touch with me, so you
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: can find me on Facebook, send me a message if
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: you'd like to buy a ticket. We do accept E transfer,
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: but otherwise if if I'm not available, then you can
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  Speaker 5: either get tickets at your Plumber which is across from
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: y QUG, or you can go on our website Julian's
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: Helps Julian with an e dot CA and and find
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: more information there.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome, thank you for that, and how about yourself and USA.
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  Speaker 6: I'd like to shout out to h Wins. You're pridefast.
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  Speaker 6: It's coming up soon days at starting There's an incredible
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: amount of fun and exciting and important events happening. And
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: I'm going to do a double plug if I can.
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: Our mortgage renewal is coming up in a couple of weeks,
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: so I want to shout out to Russia and Grata
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: at Morgan Intelligence if I'm allowed to do that, because
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: you and anyone who was in that situation, good luck
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: with how that turns out for you. But there you go.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Housing crisis comes back get again with huge thanks to
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: our guests around the roundtable today on Wednesday to Comsy
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  Speaker 2: Counselor word Wan, Alicia Higginson.
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  Speaker 3: Vanessa Shields, Ryan Richardson, big.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you to all of you. We're going to take
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: a quick break right now. We got the ten o'clock
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  Speaker 1: news coming up next