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American Werewolves: Tennessee's Werewolf Springs · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Why everybody welcome into a glitch in the Matrix today. I'm Jessica Jones.
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  I'm the Crypti Huntress, y'all. We have a fantastic show again today.
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  I have Dennis Carrol here in the studio and we just went over some really
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  interesting stuff about wear Wolf Springs right before we went live, and we are
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  going to be not only talking about werewolf springs. I've got another haunted cryptied
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  type creature that has also been spotted or there's legends of it in the area
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  we're going to talk about. And we're going to talk about traveling circuses today
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  as well, and gosh, it is going to be amazing and a gigantic
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  gonna be fun. Okay. Well, you guys, let's get to it.
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  Let's get to it, because we got a lot to discuss today,
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  okay, And I don't want to waste any time. Y'all know how I
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  do it, okay. And I do have doctor Dennis Carroll here in the
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  studio. Okay, so let me read a little blurb about what we're talking
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  about today. Okay. In the eighteen sixties, circus performers boarded a train
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  in Nashville headed towards Memphis. Shortly after, there was an accident and the
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  train derailed. There were no reported injuries, but some of the circus animals
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  that have been locked in cages escaped. Most of the animals were recovered,
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  but not all of them. Two creatures known as the Wolfmen escaped and were
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  never found. The remaining circus performers were put on another train and the next
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  day they moved to a different city. A few years later, two men
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  were traveling through the area, stopped to get some water at a spring and
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  felt like they were being chased. What was described as a sassquatch like monster
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  attacked and killed one man, while the second man was able to escape,
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  running back to burn station to tell someone about the werewolf and what had just
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  happened. A hunt party was formed to track this beast and what's successful in
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  shooting it according this is according to legend okay, but the shots left the
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  creature unfazed. A big game hunter was brought in to track the beast and
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  successfully shot it, but it was unfazed by the bullets again and it ran
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  away. The only reason he survived from what I could read, and I
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  researched was that the sun came up and as soon as the glimpse of sunlight
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  hit them, it ran okay. So man, by the way, you
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  guys can go access were Wolf Springs if you take an eleven mile hike into
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  the Montgomery Bell State Park. All right, who's with me? Who wants
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  to go? I know, I know Drewski's in here a Cryptid Warfare podcast.
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  He's game, I know he always is. But please help me.
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  Welcome to the show today. I am doctor Dennis Carroll. Here. Dennis
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  has many, many years of experience with the paranormal. He is my go
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  to on the occult, even cryptids and UFO's demonology, vampires and were wolves.
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  You guys can find him over on Hunting the Shadows on YouTube. He
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  does weekly shows throughout the week, daily shows throughout the week. All right,
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  please help me. Welcome doctor Dennis Carol. Hey, Dennis, glad
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  to be here. You know a lot. When you mentioned where are wolves
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  vampires? I immediately perk up because those are some of my interesting, most
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  interesting cryptids of all definitely, and as I said something about this earlier,
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  actually have been to springs. I drank out of the springs by the way,
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  which I hope doesn't make me turn into something on mys of the full
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  Moon. But anyway, it's not really called where Wolves Springs by the way,
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  though the locals call it that the legends around that, but it's actually
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  called Hall Springs and it's in a place called Montgomery Bail Reserve or Park something
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  like that. It's really a national park like thing there, and it's in
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  mid Tennessee, in Middle Park, mainly Kunting in the middle part of Tennessee.
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  But I went there many many many years ago, and I heard about
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  the legend of where Will Springs is what we're gonna be talking about today.
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  It is a very interesting urban type legend that would have to be one of
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  the earliest kind of urban legends in the South because it goes it goes way
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  back to like just shortly after the Civil War. So we're talking some history
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  here, definitely. Yeah, speaking of history, I thought it was really
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  cool that we're going to get to talk about circuses from the eighteen hundreds today,
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  Okay, And that's something I actually had done some research on traveling carnivals
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  recently because for for my channel members over here on my YouTube channel, I've
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  been I've been recording some narrated stories hey, that my grandmother wrote that I
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  used to recite. I'd memorize them, and i'd save them at storytelling contests
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  when I was a kid, and I used to win these storytelling contests back
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  in elementary school. And one of them actually involves a traveling carnival, And
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  so I had done some research on those, which is really interesting that we're
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  talking about this, and I've got these other things recorded that I'm about to
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  put out for my channel members. Because the traveling I mean, this was
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  like the entertainment back then. This was like the ultimate in entertainment. There
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  wasn't a whole lot, they didn't have Internet and a lot of television going
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  on back then in the eighteen hundreds, people look forward to the traveling carnival.
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  And traveling carnivals included rides, okay, different rides, but mostly what
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  we would consider to day to be freak shows is what they called them,
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  right didn's Yeah, you know, they used to call the l side shows
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  freak shows. I remember the barkers that would go out, you know,
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  especially talking about the wolf faced or dogface boy that we're gonna be mentioning that
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  you know, we would call it a freak of nature. This is a
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  freak of nature. There's something unusual. It's from Borneo or somewhere away off
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  that you never heard of. Uh. I remember attending some of these side
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  shows when I was a kid, and one of the most interesting ones that
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  got off hand. I was thinking about it when you were talking about that.
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  Uh. They used to have the giant rats of Sa Mantra and what
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  these were. They were down in a pit. You could walk up and
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  look down in there and look at them, and they were giant. They
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  were some of the largest rats I've ever seen in my life. They were
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  bigger than these rats an average house cat, and they would I actually Jessica
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  had had gnawed holes in metal food boats that they had. That's how strong
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  these guys were. You would not want this kind of rat in your house.
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  Definitely. They were like monster rats. So you had all kind of
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  freak show side shows like that that went on in the in the county fairs
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  and carnivals that toured, you know, our nation. And like you said,
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  this was back before the Internet. Some of this even started, of
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  course, back before movies, houses and all. This was the only form
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  of entertainment up north, they call them a Chautaguah. This was the only
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  kind of entertainment that went on back in those days, and that was a
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  big, big thing when the carnival of the circus came to your town.
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  Absolutely, man, Well, you know, it actually looks like most of
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  these people have deformities, like genetic mutations and physical deformities on their bodies,
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  and it's I guess okay, So I've actually heard stories of women who were
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  that traveled with some of these carnivals, who made a lot of money,
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  okay, but they were like the obvious woman in the world. And unfortunately,
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  you know, for some of these women, they looked you know,
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  they had hard features I guess you could say, sharp features on their fates
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  and stuff, and they looked kind of manly or something, and so people
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  would go and make fun of them. But you know, for women like
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  maybe who's lost a husband or something, they would make a lot of money
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  and be able to support their children. But gosh, it's got to be
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  a horrible thing to get pointed at and laughed at every day. Oh yeah,
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  And you know, a lot of these carnivals also had the girly shows,
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  you know, they had the dance the dance shows and what and they
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  would have the women that came out on the stage and skimpy costumes. And
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  I remember as a very young a bat like when I was about fifteen years
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  old. Actually I was big. I was big for my age, okay,
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  and I kind of snuck in to one of these girls shows. And
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  you're not supposed to be allowed in there unless you were like back in those
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  days twenty one, you know, but I was kind of big for my
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  age, so I snuck in and actually I thought that's pretty good sitting there
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  watching, you know, the show. And I look around and there's like
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  twenty cops in there with me. That that kind of made me uncomfortable.
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  It was I didn't really get to enjoy the show that much. But anyway,
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  I used to go into a lot of these things. It was a
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  big thing back in the day when the fairs and all that stuff. And
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  I have seen a lot of these side shows, and they really presented them
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  that way, especially P. T. Barnum, who was really more of
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  a show man than he was an actual I guess she would say a circus
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  kind of guy. He was big in the show and he would of course,
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  elaborate on a lot of this stuff. He would make it bigger than
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  he seemed. That was his that was his stick, you know. But
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  it was very interesting. But some of this stuff, Jessica, and then
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  some of these fricchos number very well. There was a dogface man in one
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  of them that I went to ash and whether that was he had, I
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  cannot think of the name of this disease. I think it's called hyper trysauria
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  or something like that. Try hyper dry something. Anyway, it's wolf ism,
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  is what it's called. And you have hair all over your body like
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  you see there. And of course that's the most famous one of all.
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  That's Jojo the dog face boy. And the legend about Jojo and his father
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  they actually toured. They actually came from Russia, and this guy knew like
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  three languages. He was very intelligent, okay, And but he and his
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  father was presented by Pt. Barn on its savages. They were supposedly captured
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  in a cave somewhere in Russia after the terrorized the countryside. They were wolf
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  people. They were like you know, and that that was the way that
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  was presented to be savage. But they were very highly in real life,
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  very highly intellectual and uh. And they made a lot of money out of
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  their condition and became very famous for it. But Jojo, of course,
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  was the most one of all. And there was another pair of two brothers,
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  and that might be the ones relating to the story of were wolf springs.
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  Here there were two brothers that supposedly that came out of Mexico that had
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  wolfism like this, and they also did the tours. I don't know a
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  whole lot about them, but I remember that hearing about them. Well,
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  there is a picture of two looks like the Couobie brothers that I'm not sure
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  where they're from, but they were considered to be Cryptneville. I like that
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  quote for the record, not my circus, not my clowns. Yes,
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  I say that all the time. But these these are these are like two
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  little boys. I mean they may us be little people for all I know.
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  I'm not sure. Uh, but they were considered to be. I
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  think they're called the wild Boys or something and uh. And so it had
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  to been. It was very exotic for people, especially the country folk.
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  Okay, I'm sure, uh. You know, I grew up in the
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  country. I would have loved to have gone to one of these when I
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  was a kid, I would have loved it because, you know, being
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  in little small towns like that, I mean, you only knew what you
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  the people who lived around you, you know, and uh, people from
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  other you know, exotic exotic lands and stuff. They had to have been
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  fascinating to especially to all the kids. Uh. And these and these exotic
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  animals too. I could imagine seeing like a cheetah or a lion or an
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  elephant would have just been mind blowing for people who had never seen something like
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  that before. Well, you know, wolf people have a long history goes
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  the way way back, kind of like Tarzan of the apes raised by the
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  wild apes in Africa, you had supposedly people raised by wolves. I think
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  there was several women that were that way. And of course the most famous
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  ones of all go way back in history to Romulus and Ramis, who found
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  the founders of Rome. Uh and I think there's a statue of them in
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  Rome, Georgia. By the way, there's an actual statue of them.
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  They were supposed to be suckling off their mother. You see, they're very
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  little children, little children up under the wolf and taking milk from the wolf.
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  She actually supposed to raise them in the wild. So you have this
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  story as in the consciousness of a lot of people back then, because these
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  stories were told of wild people. And you know, we need to do
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  a show one day on nothing but the wild men and wild people because that
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  is a fascinating subject. But this is known all over the world in most
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  every culture. You have these faro old people's stories that go on about this
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  stuff. And you know, there have been a lot of talk over the
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  years, and a lot amongst a lot of cryptid investigators that some of the
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  stuff going on out there in the woods may be the result of some of
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  these feral people that exist out there, that live out in the deep in
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  the forest. You got some freaky stuff going on. Definitely, Yes,
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  yeah, yep, that's Romulus and Remus. And yes, they do have
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  a statue of this. This is this is not the statue in Rome,
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  Georgia, okay, because I've seen the statue in Rome, Georgia. I'm
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  actually from not far from there. And and by the way, Rome Georgia
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  is highly strange, okay. And I don't mean the people there, because
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  I come from people there in Rome. But it's the land the school.
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  My friend Bryce, Okay that I do shows with Esoteric Atlanta, she went
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  to school there in a boarding school. I know a lot. I had
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  some friends that went to boarding school there. A lot of what some people
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  claim was like satanic ritual abuse was going on there with underground tunnels. You
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  know, there's a lot of stories I know personally of some strange occultic stuff
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  going on in that county, Okay where all that is. So, I
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  don't know if Romulus and Remus has everything to do with that. Also,
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  Jessica the very famous Way Wolf of Talbot County, Georgia, I know you've
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  heard of it, and I think the writer Mary Roberts wrote about that very
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  famous case the Way, and I think it's very appropriate it would be in
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  Talbot, Georgia, the Lawrence Talbot, the Wolfman. Uh. That kind
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  of an interesting little connection there, but that's a very famous case in Georgia.
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  So, I mean, this stuff would be on the minds of local
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  people, especially when you came on with a side show like that. People
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  could say, oh, these you know all people they like what we've heard
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  about around here, you know kind of thing. And I think that may
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  be the basis for a lot of what happened withs and the circus train thing
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  incidents. It sounds like a movie. It sounds like the plot from a
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  movie. Definitely it does. Now. I've talked about Emily Isabella Bert before,
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  and she was born she she is from Georgia. This is the werewolf
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  of Georgia. This was her and uh, and she lived to be an
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  old lady. Okay, she actually passed away as an old lady. And
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  I don't mean old, I'm not in no disrespect, but it was like
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  in her late eighties okay. And she's she's buried down in Talbot County,
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  which is actually part of the Troop Herd Corridor, Okay, where I do
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  bigfoot and dog man research and stuff. We have a lot of reports of
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  dog men down there, okay. And and the large alien abductions that have
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  been going on down in that area. Well, so alien abductions were wolves,
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  you know. She her tombstone actually says something really weird. Not something
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  really weird. I don't mean that in a bad way. But her aunt
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  or somebody had her sister, her niece had I guess it was her niece
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  had put an inscription on her headstone. That reads something about now and I'm
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  paraphrasing, okay, because it was like, now that she's passed on,
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  she's in her true form. Now, in her true form, that's odd,
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  okay, considering she was considered to be a were wolf. Well,
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  you know, we did that show recently about curses, family curses and all
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  that. I've often wondered if maybe she was suffering then there's something like that.
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  You know, that's an interesting aspect. But you know, like I
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  say, this is on the minds of a lot of people in these things,
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  and I have to wonder about especially with wear little springs of the circus
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  training story and all that. And you know, we've talked about this before.
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  I think a lot of cryptid sidings could be explained by some of what
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  I call out of place animals. They're not supposed to be there, just
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  like right now from where I'm sitting, about maybe three miles away, this
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  sky once owned a full grown African lion. He owned it. He kept
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  it in his yard, okay, and he got out one day and they
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  had to hunt this thing down and luckily he got you know, got it
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  before you know, got a hold of somebody. But I mean, you
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  never know what's close around you with stuff like this, and you know,
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  and this could be a viable solution for some cryptid sized not all of them,
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  but some And you have to wonder if maybe that's what's at the basis
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  of the werewolf thing with werewolf springs. Did they And here's one more thing.
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  You don't have wolves usually in a circus. Wolves do not perform in
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  circuses. They're not good performers, by the way, not like lions and
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  tigers and sting bears and stuff like that. Wolves are not usually found in
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  a circus enlists. They're wolf people. Like what you hear about in this
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  strain incident. Wow, yeah, well, you know, speaking well,
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  I want to thank people who've given superstickers. Jennifer Patterson, thank you so
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  much. I appreciate that very much. And we're Criminal seven, thank you
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  so much for that. Thank you. I appreciate that we're just over here
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  having fun. Great Dennis, So okay, So, speaking of the animals
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  that are out of place that could be either mistaken for encrypted or go on
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  ramp pages and tear people apart and attack people, and people assume that it
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  was a dog man or something, there's actually a home behind my dad's property
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  where my dad lives. He lives way out in the country here in Georgia
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  undisclosed location, okay, but he lives up in northwest Georgia and not too
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  far from Rome by the way, and he the property that he lives on.
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  Now, there was a man who lived behind him in a house and
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  apparently he was a drug dealer or something. I'm not sure. He had
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  a lot of money. He had a lot of exotic pets, including like
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  big cats, and I think it was like a tiger, a lion,
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  a bear or something. It was. It was wild. He had stuff
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  that he shouldn't have had on his property. And at some point he let
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  the animals out on purpose, okay, and they, from what my dad
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  told me, they just went wild. And this is before he lived there.
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  But let me tell you, they had a really hard timing. And
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  what happens is they can't just catch these animals. They have to put them
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  down, basically, is what I was told. When they do find them,
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  because there's really no way and they don't know if they've been domesticated,
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  if they're wild, but they can't be out roaming around and making havoc on
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  the people in that county and they're telling him or they could travel. Animals
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  like that Jessica gets out and it's unusual surroundings, it's not used to its
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  habitat. It can kind of get wild and can get very rowdy. Animals,
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  especially wild animals. I mean, no matter how much you try to
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  domesticate them, they will always be that wildness and that will always be there.
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  I talked to a line chamber one time, and uh, he actually
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  said, I love my lines. I love them, he said. He
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  said, they're, you know, part of my heart, but I can
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  never trust them. That's a mistake, that animal, because yeah, you
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  in one minute, some that's domesticated animals have done that much less wild animals.
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  You know, that's right, Dennis. I've watched those videos of people
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  in national parks going up the pet of buffalo, okay, and the buffalo
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  will headbutt them and like hurt them and stuff, and it's like, when
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  are people going to learn these are wild animals? Okay? Nonetheless? Okay.
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  So so getting back to our werewolves, springs wear wolves. They said
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  that two okay, So when the trendy railed two, everything was recovered except
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  for two wolfmen Dennis, Now do you think Okay, so if some people
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  speculate those could have been you know, well, they could have just been
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  men that had that had that hair disease, you know, on their body,
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  or they could have been actual dog men, or they could have been
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  were wolves. Okay, what what do you think? What is your opinion
• 25:37
  on that? Well? I think I think a lot of that would have
• 25:41
  been the hype of the circus, you know, that they were wild and
• 25:45
  all that. I can't really go along too much with that being the cause
• 25:49
  of a lot of this stuff. What sounds to me like that went on
• 25:53
  here in were Wolves Stiams with the actual sighting of the real wear wolf.
• 25:57
  Okay, and when you run into the real thing, it can be worse
• 26:03
  than two wild men. Guarantee you that. And uh, here's one more
• 26:07
  thing you got to think about. The werewolf is a supernatural creature as a
• 26:12
  being in its form as a wolf, it's supernatural. Bullets are not gonna
• 26:17
  hurt it. And these are good country guys. They know how to shoot,
• 26:21
  okay, they grew up that way. And if they shoot something and
• 26:26
  it doesn't kill it, okay, I have to wonder what the heck is
• 26:30
  going on with that, because those guys were good shots. So you're not
• 26:34
  going to kill a werewolf regular bullets, and you don't even have to worry
• 26:40
  about the silver bullet. As long as that bullet, whatever you fire at
• 26:42
  it is blessed, it will take down the vampile of werewolf, whatever the
• 26:48
  supernatural creature is supposed it will be. I have even I even carry loaded
• 26:53
  shotgun shells of rock salt in case I run into what would be called my
• 26:59
  level and ghost, because these things can take these things down, but they've
• 27:03
  got to do it the correct way. And if you tell me, these
• 27:07
  guys are shooting at something and the bullets don't bother it at all, you're
• 27:11
  not looking at something that's normally physical here, they're looking at something supernatural.
• 27:18
  You are. And the fact that these stories and I'm not saying any of
• 27:22
  this as one hundred percent fact because I don't have the real I don't have
• 27:26
  real I mean, the only documentation that I could find was was in old
• 27:32
  newspaper articles, Okay, And that's okay, because that's that's evidence right there,
• 27:36
  right, I mean, it's evidence to me that there's that something happened,
• 27:41
  Okay, And sometimes they say it was kind of a legend. But
• 27:45
  like I said, there's no like firsthand other than these newspaper articles. Okay.
• 27:49
  And of course this happened back in the eighteen hundreds, okay, allegedly,
• 27:55
  but I have separate accounts. I have more accounts of people encountering were
• 27:59
  wolves back then. What okay, I was going to say. The fact
• 28:03
  was that the big game hunter claimed that it only ran away when the sun
• 28:11
  sunlight came out. You know, when the sun came out that morning was
• 28:14
  when it ran off. So that is indicative of a werewolf, that there
• 28:19
  is a very distinct supernatural marker, if you want to put it that way,
• 28:23
  because supposedly the sun is what There's one thing. You don't hear too
• 28:29
  many reports aware wolves being seen in the sunlight. Okay, it's usually they're
• 28:33
  nocturnal creatures there night because the dark forces upon them initiating this form. They
• 28:40
  can't stand under God's son sort of speak. They don't take the daylight.
• 28:44
  And that's why this thing would have, you know, went south when when
• 28:48
  the sun came up. Definitely. And here's one more thing that I have
• 28:52
  to wonder about with the train, the Reilment connection, What if these weren't
• 28:57
  two wolf's men that got out, maybe they were lions, Maybe they were
• 29:03
  a couple of hyenas or something that got out. You know, my good
• 29:06
  friend Ken Ginha Gearhart did an investigation of the beasts of of Ord in France,
• 29:11
  you know, and there was speculation that it was not really a wolf
• 29:15
  at all, it was there somebody's pet hyena. They got out. People
• 29:21
  back in the old days they had exotic pets, especially if you were very
• 29:25
  rich who could afford stuff like that, And so the speculation about that that
• 29:30
  it could have been something other than wolf. Me indefinitely, that makes more
• 29:34
  sense to me that these would have been something like might be a hyena or
• 29:38
  wild dogs that they had, whatever the situation. But then, you know,
• 29:44
  like you come up with this report of the big game hunter, and
• 29:47
  some other reports or something that I heard while I was there, leave me
• 29:52
  to believe that that legend was already in place before the train derell, if
• 29:56
  it ever really truly dereled there. If I think that was like in the
• 30:02
  late eighteen sixties, and that was after the Civil War, and there was
• 30:07
  talk about this going on before the Civil War. So I think the legend
• 30:11
  was already in place. I think you got you got to mix up on
• 30:15
  both of them. You know, they're kind of mixture. Wow. You
• 30:19
  bring up some excellent points. And I have a while back, I did
• 30:23
  a show with mister e I've done a couple of shows with him, and
• 30:26
  we talked about Appalachian hyenas and the hyena men okay, the hyena dog men,
• 30:33
  and we were kind of throwing the idea out there. And he has
• 30:37
  really good research and information on hyenas in the Appalachian Mountains. And yes,
• 30:44
  you know, many many years ago, centuries ago, people were bringing hyenas
• 30:48
  from like Africa up here. Like royalty actually would visit here at times.
• 30:53
  And here's the thing, Dennis, we don't know our real history. I
• 30:56
  don't think. I think a lot of our history has been hidden from us.
• 31:00
  At some point hyenas made their way here, whether by traveling circus,
• 31:04
  whether by zoos, personal zoos or menageries, whatever you want to call them.
• 31:10
  Of the royalty that visited from Europe, it happened, okay, And
• 31:15
  so we could have remnants of animals like that here all over the place.
• 31:19
  And yes, they could have mutated. I'm not saying they mutated into dog
• 31:23
  men, but they could, that's the possibility. Yeah. And you know
• 31:27
  another thing that besides circus is you know you have escapes from zoos, and
• 31:33
  you know zoos are very excited animals. You've got that going on, and
• 31:37
  actually there have been in zoos there's been a problem on those lines. And
• 31:42
  tigers breeding, you get lygons and tigons out of that. Uh, you
• 31:48
  get the hybrid of thing going on. Uh. And by the way,
• 31:52
  these things are so unnatural and that when they breed life very much like a
• 31:57
  mule. Okay, your average mule could not have other mules because they are
• 32:05
  sterile, because you've got to have a donkey and a horse to get a
• 32:07
  mule. That's the way that goes. And that breed is in itself is
• 32:12
  sterle when you go to the end of it. But you've got a lot
• 32:15
  of weird, freaky stuff going on like that when you do hybridization of things,
• 32:21
  even with plants and we and mankind has hybrid done a lot of hybrid
• 32:25
  work with plants over the years and different you know, the different things with
• 32:30
  cuttings on rose bushes and go on and on and on. It goes into
• 32:34
  deep stuff and also look at the many different breeds of dogs. Where do
• 32:38
  you think they came from mankind? We did that. We manipulated that.
• 32:46
  That's how you got so many different breeds of dolls. And you've got different
• 32:50
  breeds for different jobs. You've got you know, you've got you know,
• 32:53
  shepherd dogs, You've got you know different You've got cow herding dogs, bulldogs.
• 33:00
  That's why we call them bulldogs. They heard bulls. Okay, you
• 33:02
  gotta be pretty mean to do that too, by the way. Uh,
• 33:07
  And that's why we had a ring in those of the bull and the big
• 33:09
  soles. They had the rings because the dogs could grab that and get that
• 33:14
  bull or that soild or do whatever he wanted to, which I have to
• 33:16
  laugh when I see people with rings in their noses. But anyway, uh,
• 33:22
  I think about that. Uh is a good handle, definitely, But
• 33:27
  anyway, uh, we man has always been big in hybridization of things and
• 33:34
  messing around wager. Absolutely. Yeah, people people only knew, you know,
• 33:42
  and I'm sure some do. But yeah, but that's interesting. And
• 33:45
  we also can't leave out the little yippie dogs and the you know, it's
• 33:49
  funny how like wolves went from like wolves to chiabas, you know, to
• 33:53
  me, that's that's just wild to me. But but it's also like all
• 33:59
  these kinmera that you're talking about as well, you know, like all the
• 34:01
  inner breeding and mixing and you know, mingling DNA and stuff. Not only
• 34:06
  just experimental, but I don't know, there's just so much going on out
• 34:10
  there. And I would know because I'm out there chasing dog Man and Bigfoot
• 34:14
  in the woods myself. Okay, so there's a lot of weird stuff that
• 34:16
  we can't even explain that we don't know there. Here's the interesting thing you
• 34:22
  got to think about, Jessica. Don't mean to interrupt you, but I
• 34:24
  have to have to say this. I'm getting noous. I gotta say it
• 34:27
  when I remember. Okay, but man does this, but seeing what nature
• 34:32
  might be able to do with that, this nature decides to sort of do
• 34:37
  something like that along those same lines. Maybe that's where you get a lot
• 34:40
  of these cryptids from. You know, that's another possibility. The nature kind
• 34:45
  of gets freaky sometimes absolutely, And uh, you know, I have heard
• 34:52
  actually reports on the listener to this. This is why I've actually heard reports
• 34:57
  coming out of California of blue kayot. What's going on with that. Uh
• 35:07
  uh, So you've got some weird stuff going on in nature. And here's
• 35:09
  one more thing we got to think about. Nature now must coexist with man.
• 35:15
  And look at all the chemicals and stuff that we put out on lands
• 35:20
  and then landfills and dumpsters that animals might get a hold of or will be
• 35:25
  exposed to. It might call some of this stuff too. So you've got
• 35:30
  a lot of possibility here when he comes to absolutely, yeah, we do,
• 35:37
  we absolutely do. These are some these are some great comments here today
• 35:42
  and talking about what is this, Roger says that he thinks that foxes were
• 35:46
  used to make to wall hunks, which that's interest. Isn't a fox in
• 35:51
  the cat family or is it the dog family? I don't remember, I
• 35:54
  can't remember. But anyways, Okay, well, let's let's go back to
• 36:01
  let's go to some stories of people who have encountered these wolfmen, the wolf
• 36:07
  like creatures, sometimes debscribed as sasquatch type creatures and other times they're wolfmen.
• 36:13
  Okay, well, wow, yeah, that's interesting. I mean, they
• 36:20
  got a lot of excess hair here. Let me say this, if you
• 36:22
  were born Jessica with this disease, this wolf ism, Okay, if you
• 36:28
  were born with this two hundred years ago, we wouldn't know what to think
• 36:31
  about you. Okay, we would probably cast you out of the village and
• 36:36
  you were on your own. You had to go out and survive in the
• 36:38
  woods and in a while, because we didn't understand you, what was out
• 36:43
  of the normal. Even red haired people were sected to be witches. Okay,
• 36:47
  if you were out of the normal, and even if you had that
• 36:51
  terrible disease lupus, which can cause them usual growth hair and teeth placement and
• 36:57
  all that, we wouldn't understand that. We would be scared of you.
• 37:00
  You would be very superstitious, so we would cast you out of the village.
• 37:04
  You would be on your own. Think about that, and I think
• 37:07
  that is where a lot of werewolfs, so called werewolf legends began with some
• 37:14
  stuff like that as well. I mean, that's another natural probable calls for
• 37:17
  some of this stuff, not all of it, but for some of it.
• 37:22
  So you've got and you got when you look at werewolves, you got
• 37:23
  to look at the naturally occurring werewolf and the cursed werewolf or the black magic
• 37:30
  werewolf. You've got different types to look at. And that right there,
• 37:35
  if you if you knew someone like Joji out there, that would have been
• 37:38
  that was a scared you out of your wits years ago. I mean,
• 37:42
  you wouldn't understand. We're a little more modern now, we look through different
• 37:45
  eyes and different filters that we have now, But back two hundred or even
• 37:51
  one hundred years ago, people would have said, oh, we don't want
• 37:53
  you around us, get out of here. You're you're some kind of what
• 37:57
  freak of nature. We don't won't you're around. And that was sad though,
• 38:02
  very sad in a way because you throw these people out, they had
• 38:06
  to survive or die, you know what. H yeah, I mean it's
• 38:15
  it's actually quite sad. Yeah, well, you get a job at a
• 38:19
  circus. I know. Well, you know I was someone that that that
• 38:22
  women in particularly, you know, there's a case of that woman that I
• 38:28
  was talking about who was the world's ugliest woman, Okay, and uh,
• 38:31
  and she looked very masculine, let's just say, but she had lived a
• 38:36
  horrible, horribly hard life and uh, and had a bunch of kids,
• 38:39
  and her husband had died and he was gone out of the picture, and
• 38:45
  so she had to support her family and feed her children. And so she
• 38:49
  went into the circus and she let people laugh and point at her, and
• 38:52
  she made a lot of money, Okay, and she was able to feed
• 38:55
  her family and take care. But I can't imagine that your psyche, your
• 39:00
  psychological well being. Look at all the rumors and gossip that goes on about
• 39:06
  normal people nowadays. If you are a little odd like then, especially still
• 39:09
  it still goes on today too. But if you were a little odd then
• 39:14
  rumors were talked about, you know, maybe stories were made up about you,
• 39:20
  things that weren't necessarily true. They got started. Oh man, that
• 39:23
  so happens today. You don't got to look like a wolf to get story
• 39:27
  started about you. Okay, hybrid trachosis. I cannot think of the name
• 39:30
  of that, thank you. Yes, okay, Well let's let's talk about
• 39:36
  the first two men that got attacked by the soul called wolfman. Okay.
• 39:39
  Now this isn't Montgomery Bell State Park. Well now, it wasn't that back
• 39:44
  then, but now it's called Montgomery State Park. This is an area of
• 39:49
  the park right there. I'm just going to put this picture up. Well,
• 39:52
  I talk about this now. Now this account comes from I got the
• 39:54
  sign of a newspaper article from the Dixon Herald, Okay, The Dixon Herald,
• 40:00
  they said that they talk about how in the late eighteen sixties a circus
• 40:04
  trained derailed and the recovered and except for the two wolfmen. A couple of
• 40:15
  years later, a local landowner in his hired hand were traveling by wagon down
• 40:20
  a country road in the proximity to where Highway forty seven runs southwest to the
• 40:24
  park. They were heading from the present day Burns area to a homestead near
• 40:28
  the Harpeth River. The travelers were sought by a wild creature in the vicinity
• 40:34
  of were Wolf Springs. They moved faster and faster, trying to shape the
• 40:37
  creature, but it was of no use, so they abandoned the wagon and
• 40:39
  ran down the forest in opposite directions. The creature pursued the hired hand,
• 40:44
  who was never seen again. The landowner heard a blood curdling scream and pleas
• 40:49
  for mercy from the hired hand, but his body was never found. Following
• 40:54
  this incident, a posse gathered to find and killed the beast. They headed
• 40:58
  to a clearing near the springs where it appears a predatory. A predator frequently
• 41:02
  hunted okay. They tethered a goat in the middle of the clearing and broke
• 41:07
  off in pairs, surrounding the goat under cover, A sasquatchlight creature entered the
• 41:13
  clearing and headed straight for the goat. The men fired at the creature and
• 41:15
  then lit their lanterns to see if it was dead. The creature and the
• 41:20
  goat then vanished, along with the two members of the posse. With two
• 41:23
  members of the posse, a big game hunter then attempted to slay the beast.
• 41:29
  The hunter spent three nights in a cabin near Werewolf Springs. All was
• 41:32
  quiet the first two nights, but the hunter had to fight for his life
• 41:35
  the final evening. He heard howls in the distance and took aim from a
• 41:39
  cabin window at what appeared to be the creature. He fired, but the
• 41:43
  shot only provoked the animal. The beast broke through the cabin door, but
• 41:45
  the hunter had positioned himself in the rafters and began firing at it. The
• 41:51
  bullets didn't FaZe the creature as it swiped and clawed the hunter, whose ammunition
• 41:55
  by now was down to two shots in his pistol. He was saved,
• 42:00
  however, when the sun began to rise, and the creature fled into the
• 42:05
  woods. And that's the first account of people being attacked unalived by the werewolf
• 42:15
  or the were wolves of this area. Well, here's an interesting thing about
• 42:20
  that, Jessein, I don't have people there's been something dejectory. Could this
• 42:22
  have been a dog man that these people had run into. Well, let
• 42:27
  me say this about dog men and were wolves. Okay, and I've talked
• 42:30
  a lot about this over the years. If you were to take me to
• 42:34
  two crime scenes where people were savagely murdered by something, and I saw one
• 42:40
  as opposed to the other. The dog man scene would be, Yeah,
• 42:44
  they probably have a throat ripped out, there'd be some mauling, definitely.
• 42:49
  The second scene where they completely torn to pieces, would be the werewolf.
• 42:52
  Okay, that would be the big difference in the way the werewolves and dog
• 42:58
  men would actually attack something. Uh. The werewolf is a psychotic killer.
• 43:04
  And when I hear this story about the guys running into the woods never to
• 43:07
  be seen again, that sounds like a werewolf to me. Okay, that
• 43:10
  that definitely has a year mark. So sounding like a werewolf, that doesn't
• 43:15
  sound like a dog man. It certainly doesn't sound like a wolf man kind
• 43:19
  of thing. That sounds like a ware it will eat you. It will
• 43:22
  take you off somewhere and eat you. Now that's not a windy go.
• 43:27
  Now, windy go is a completely different thing altogether here, Okay, But
• 43:30
  that is what a weare a wolf would do. Absolutely motus operandi the mo
• 43:38
  o, Okay, for sure, what I'd like to say, the modus
• 43:43
  operendi. That's right, Okay. So I'm glad that I have you here
• 43:46
  to talk about this because you are you are the resident expert on were wolves
• 43:51
  in US. Okay. And uh. And it's it's important because there's some
• 43:54
  there's a couple of other encounters, uh. And they include children actually that
• 44:00
  have to do with this as well. So I believe one is a little
• 44:05
  girl who went missing who has been the people in the area assumed that the
• 44:09
  werewolf took her. Okay, And I guess I'll just read this is actually
• 44:15
  from the same article from the Dixon Harold, Okay, from this area.
• 44:20
  This was actually written, I take it. I think it was in the
• 44:22
  Tennessee end, but they took it from the Dixon Harold Okay. So I
• 44:27
  want to give them credit. Okay. I don't want to read anything that
• 44:30
  I don't need credit for. Okay. So there's a Hall Springs Okay,
• 44:34
  this is an incident that happened in Hall Springs, and I don't know if
• 44:37
  this is I guess this is where the trail is. Actually, by the
• 44:40
  way, Dennis, you can take an eleven mile hike into the Montgomery Bell
• 44:45
  State Park and hang out with the werewolf in that area. Okay. I
• 44:51
  don't know if I would recommend that, Okay, but but you can.
• 44:55
  It's that area. Eleven mile hike. Okay. We did like a three
• 44:59
  or four my hike into the dog Man hunt last Monday, and that's a
• 45:04
  long hike. Okay, that's long. That's one thing we could have said
• 45:09
  by when we did the show about the dragon. You know, don't don't
• 45:13
  mess in the affairs or dragons because you are crunchy and you taste good would
• 45:16
  catch up. Well, that's the same thing with werewolves. Okay. I
• 45:22
  would not recommend you to do any were wolf hunting out there unless you were
• 45:25
  truly truly armed the way you need to be, because this is a supernatural
• 45:30
  killer. It's not like dog Man. If I would rather somebody asked me
• 45:35
  that I long ago, if you would you rather walk up on a dog
• 45:37
  man or a werewolf, I would rather walk up on the doll man because
• 45:42
  he's probably gonna cut you a break. The werewolf will not. And that
• 45:47
  was the thing the beast of go Vaden, It would take people off and
• 45:51
  eat them. That was very werewolf like. It's just the way they operate.
• 45:57
  And that's what that sounds like is going on here in this place to
• 46:00
  me. And like I said, I talked to a few of the locals
• 46:02
  when I was there about this, and they did tell me that they didn't
• 46:07
  really believe. They didn't really believe the trained realm and story as much as
• 46:10
  they already had that legend in place per se about some kind of a beast
• 46:16
  that existed there they didn't come out of and so it's a ware wolves.
• 46:21
  But it sounded very much like that, you know, And what they were
• 46:23
  really trying to describe, well, I hear that we're wolves are more human
• 46:31
  like they think in a not to see they are. They're not. I'm
• 46:35
  not to say they're totally human, but they actually have critical thinking skills like
• 46:39
  humans and stuff, and dog men are more kind of like dogs, okay,
• 46:45
  but with human attributes, kranded with their humanoid bodies and stuff. So
• 46:50
  I would I don't know. It depends on what kind of dog man it
• 46:53
  is. I don't know. I'd like to I'd like to see one from
• 46:57
  Afar, Okay, from Afar. But unfortunately, there's been a several people
• 47:01
  who have been either attacked by these I have have three have three stories actually,
• 47:07
  so I'm gonna I'm gonna actually read this from this newspaper article. This
• 47:12
  is the hall about the Hall Springs incident. Okay, so this is an
• 47:17
  account, it says, this is the rough account Brown heard as a cub
• 47:22
  scout camping in the area known as Werewolf Springs. The area referred to as
• 47:24
  where Wolf Springs. It's actually Hall Springs, like you said, Dennis,
• 47:29
  but yeah, and it's presently accessed through Montgomery Bell's State Park eleven mile overnight
• 47:35
  hiking trail. Okay. Mark Cordlou, a longtime Burns resident and former naturalists
• 47:42
  and ranger, explained, and he's worked at this park, explained. The
• 47:45
  Hall family homestead was located about one hundred and fifty yards from Hall Springs,
• 47:50
  which is were Wolf Springs between the Springs and the Hall Cemetery. Now that
• 47:54
  that piques my interest with the cemetery dentists because dog men are often spotted near
• 47:59
  cemetery, which could mean that this could be a dog man could be but
• 48:06
  the Halls were one of several families who lived within the park boundaries before the
• 48:09
  land was ever designated for park space. The overnight trail passes in front of
• 48:14
  Hall Cemetery and loops around the Hall Springs where freshwater bubbles to the surface from
• 48:20
  an underground water table. The spring then flows into the present day lake Woodhaven
• 48:24
  due north of the spring source. The beast was rumored to have lived in
• 48:29
  a cave in Creech Hollow. Additional accounts of the werewolf conclude the mysterious disappearance
• 48:34
  of the little girl who vanished while fetching water from Hall Springs. She was
• 48:38
  never found, but several animal and human bones were found in a cave in
• 48:43
  Creach Hollow. The Creech Hollow caves now rest at the bottom of the parks
• 48:46
  Hollow. Lake Brown noted several mules and horse bones have been found in the
• 48:51
  area near Wrewoll Springs. This sphone site, however, it served as a
• 48:54
  common dumping ground for the animals by pre park residents. Okay, well,
• 49:01
  you know what comes to mind when I read that article are big cats too?
• 49:07
  And I know in Tennessee. I've done research in Tennessee and there are
• 49:10
  a lot of big cats there. Okay, a lot of big cats,
• 49:15
  bears, cats. I mean we're talking about Smoky Mountains area or just the
• 49:20
  appellations in general, a lot of big cats. Well, actually that's that
• 49:25
  is where I encountered, uh, in the Appalachian Mountains. I encountered a
• 49:30
  mountain lion one time. So yeah, they're definitely. That's another factor you
• 49:35
  have there. And you know, the mountain lion is an apex predator as
• 49:38
  well. Usually though they shy away from people, but if you're in their
• 49:45
  territorid they begin to hunt you definitely. And that's one factor. And I
• 49:51
  want to I want everybody that goes out in the woods like that. You
• 49:54
  gotta gonna kind of wash for that. And here's the fast thing about mountain
• 49:59
  liones usually come down on you from out of a tree, okay, and
• 50:02
  that they come from that down from above kind of thing. Uh, that's
• 50:07
  they're up in the trees too. They're not just on the land looking around.
• 50:10
  They're up in the trees too, So you have to be very very
• 50:14
  careful when you're out because you never know what you're gonna come up on.
• 50:16
  So that that's another factor in all of this, that there are the big
• 50:21
  cats out there as well. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. Okay,
• 50:27
  I see some uh, some good comments. I've got a couple of questions
• 50:30
  in here. I'm gonna dress those in just a minute. About the god
• 50:34
  Sea case. Are you familiar with the god Sea case? The god Sea
• 50:37
  case, I'm not sure if that's the little boy that went missing in the
• 50:39
  Smoky Mountains. I don't know. I have to look that one up before
• 50:44
  I address that. Let's see, let's see, we'll get back to that.
• 50:50
  Yeah, let me let me get back to this question. Just thank
• 50:52
  you, Patrick, I appreciate that. We'll get back to that in just
• 50:54
  a minute. I'm gonna go over another case of another person who was accosted
• 51:02
  by this wolf man. Okay, so this is this is in the same
• 51:06
  article from this newspaper. It said Brown, who worked at the park for
• 51:10
  twenty three years, actually found a cabin near Werewolf Springs where the hunter supposedly
• 51:15
  fought off the beast. He hyped the area of a twelve year old boy.
• 51:19
  Scout followed an old trail that began at the fire tower in the southernmost
• 51:23
  point of the park to a cemetery near the springs. He returned to the
• 51:29
  former trail found the abandoned cabin. The house had since collapsed, but the
• 51:32
  outhouse still stands. He noted that the grind around the cabin appeared to have
• 51:37
  been cultivated at one time, since it showed signs of repeated plowing. He
• 51:45
  okay, oops, I wrote that twice. Okay, so only I thought
• 51:49
  that he had an encounter, Okay, but he actually went there and said
• 51:51
  that this place does exist. Okay, So that was that. That's what
• 51:54
  he was stating, was that this place actually exists. It's not just like
• 51:58
  some made up story. Yeah, that cabin with very ugue, I would
• 52:02
  love to see that actually, if that is the original cabin. There are
• 52:07
  several cabins, I think they have been found around there, so you'd have
• 52:10
  to kind of determine which ones wish. But anyway, another thing about cemeteris
• 52:15
  being a dog man hang out. They also are places where where wolves basically
• 52:21
  go to because you have what you're dealing with the demonic creatures, and demonic
• 52:28
  things tend to gravitate towards symeters places of the dead. Uh, that's usually
• 52:35
  power for the course. But anyway, Yeah, some of this stuff,
• 52:39
  it's so fascinating because it has so much are parts of legend to it,
• 52:47
  and you have kind of cut through the legend to get to the real truth
• 52:52
  or bone of what may be the real foundation of it. So it's interesting
• 52:57
  to listen to all of it and try to determine that's why you know,
• 53:00
  and what may be and what can be discounted if possible, and what can't
• 53:05
  be. Yes. Yes, Urso has a question to us, could a
• 53:09
  skin walker mistaken mistakenly be labeled a werewolf not really skin The skinwalker is really
• 53:21
  coming from a direction okay in that respect, although it is a witch.
• 53:27
  A skin walker is a witch okay. Or it's a Native American thing,
• 53:31
  a witch or a warlock type thing, depending on the male female. But
• 53:38
  they're due. They're coming from a different direction than the werewolf. The werewolf
• 53:43
  is more European black magic kind of a thing, more witchcraft, European witchcraft
• 53:50
  than the skin walker. The skin walker is based in Native American magic and
• 53:57
  stuff and the beliefs that is in here. But very very few Native Americans
• 54:05
  will talk about the skin Walker because the more you talk about it, the
• 54:08
  more tension you give it. Just like any kind of demonic thing, the
• 54:13
  more acknowledgements you give it, the stronger it makes. That thing and it
• 54:20
  began will zero in on you because you're the source of that. And that's
• 54:23
  in other words, it's not a good idea to talk about it because then
• 54:27
  you get their attention. Oh yeah, okay, let's see I wanted to
• 54:32
  address it was Patrick kind of question about the the Ganzi case. Okay,
• 54:39
  so I just looked it up. That was the little boy who was thirteen
• 54:43
  years old who was found in Kentucky. This happened in twenty twenty. It
• 54:47
  was about four years ago. Tory Gatsi, who was found deceased on February
• 54:54
  eighteenth of a suspected animal attack. His body was located fifteen hundred feet of
• 54:59
  a hill site behind a residence with the assistance of the Fish and Wildlife's officers.
• 55:06
  I think there was a possibility, if I remember correctly, that being
• 55:09
  a coyote attack. Possibly. Yeah, Well, they said that they they
• 55:14
  said they had wildlife cameras located multiple dogs on an old mine site near the
• 55:20
  area where he was found. Okay, so living wild dogs saw there as
• 55:24
  a pack of wild dogs. Okay, And yes, coyote coyotes absolutely could
• 55:29
  have done that. A lot of people have assumed it was dog men.
• 55:32
  You have some packs where wild dogs coies coexist in a pack. I have
• 55:38
  actually seen footage of dogs, regular dogs being in a coyote pack. Think
• 55:44
  about that. So even wild dogs, that's why they wouldcome wild. They
• 55:50
  can either go with wolf packs. I have actually seen one with a wolf
• 55:52
  pack. Uh, this is not that far fetched. You know that something
• 55:59
  like that going on out there as well. Okay, Smedley, do right
• 56:05
  ask do dog men or were wolf have tails like a wolf or dog?
• 56:10
  Well, that depends a lot of people say the dog man has a tail.
• 56:15
  A lot of people says it doesn't have a tail. I don't know
• 56:17
  if I would say around long enough to check, but it might be interested
• 56:22
  to correlate that sometime. But now the werewolf, actually the werewolf we're talking
• 56:27
  about the weref in his truest form, one hundred percent werewolf is gonna be
• 56:32
  It's gonna look like a big, dire wolf. It's gonna run on all
• 56:37
  fours, but it can stand on his hind legs when he wants to.
• 56:39
  It can walk like a man when he wants to. But most of the
• 56:43
  time it's gonna motive. It's gonna motivate. It on four legs, okay,
• 56:47
  and it's gonna look like a huge, monstrous, ugly god God's mistaken
• 56:52
  wolf. Okay, that's what he looks like. A wolf man stands on
• 56:58
  two legs, has two arms, very much like a dog man, but
• 57:01
  he has more attributes of a man than a wolf. But the wolf is
• 57:06
  there too. You've got to think Lon Sheney in the original wolf Man.
• 57:08
  Okay, that's what a wolf man looks like. And most of the wolf
• 57:12
  men are the victims of a curse. A true werewolf who has taking that
• 57:17
  form very much like the skin walker in that respect, takes the true form
• 57:22
  of that animal. Whether the skinwalker looks like a coyote or a raven or
• 57:27
  a wolf, whatever situation was, so is the werewolf. But the werewolf
• 57:31
  does not change into a raven, It does not change into a case.
• 57:35
  It changes only into a werewolf, which is part of the witchcraft ceremony that
• 57:39
  it goes to. But now there are certain other parts of the wolf ceremony
• 57:45
  that can transmit you into a vampire. Or it can make you a big
• 57:49
  giant cat. It can make you into a house cat. Sometimes there's even
• 57:53
  talking to me, turning you into a pig. Different animals, it can
• 57:59
  take different shapes in that form. But a werewolf, what's his name.
• 58:02
  It's a were wolf, that's basically what it is. But it is a
• 58:07
  huge, evil monster wolf. That's what it basically is. And that's why
• 58:13
  I say it's an apex number one apex killer of all because this thing is
• 58:16
  not only so dangerous for bestuality of it, but it has the mind of
• 58:22
  a man. Now that's what makes it so very very dangerous. Oh yeah,
• 58:29
  and Jorgan has a question about dog women. Yes, dog women.
• 58:34
  There are dog women. There have to be female dog men in order for
• 58:38
  there to be dog men period, if they're going to continue there. You
• 58:44
  know, I have read reports of dog actually they actually would have like the
• 58:52
  I'll say this, like it would have the teats of a dog now going
• 58:55
  down is belly like a like a female dog, like a regular female doll
• 59:00
  would have. I have heard reports of that, but they're very, very
• 59:04
  seldom, kind of rare. Most of the US just hear the doc.
• 59:10
  Oh yeah. And and there is talk of there being h dog men being
• 59:16
  used by our government. You know, we talk pretty often about how everything
• 59:20
  is weaponized. And uh, and and if and I do believe dog men
• 59:23
  and were wolves are real, they were, they would be weaponized to be
• 59:28
  used by our government. And and so Urso says dog men from government are
• 59:34
  highly trained to do a lot of reasoning and human things. Well, think
• 59:38
  about this, Jessica. What if I went to the offices of the CIA
• 59:42
  tomorrow and I said, Hey, I can tune into a wear a wolf
• 59:45
  whenever I want to, Can you guys use me? You think they would
• 59:49
  turn me down? Yeah, oh we can. We can use you.
• 59:55
  We could use you, That's what they would say. Uh, they would
• 59:59
  they would find some way to use it. And and so I have no
• 1:00:02
  doubt that they do that now I have. Yeah, and that that's true.
• 1:00:08
  Aaron. The Mountain lions absolutely were not killed off to the degree that
• 1:00:12
  we're told and stuff, and yeah, nothing is what we're told. I
• 1:00:16
  don't think, Yeah, Patrick, the gaus Sea case was the ten year
• 1:00:22
  old that was killed by an unknown canine. Yes, totally. That is
• 1:00:27
  a super sad case. I haven't covered it because it's a kid. I
• 1:00:30
  try to kind of stay away, like especially if I were to get that
• 1:00:32
  as a remote viewing target, I would be hesitant to talk about that.
• 1:00:37
  It's a child. It's one case, Jessica. I remember not too long
• 1:00:43
  ago where a young lady was actually killed by a cold If you remember that,
• 1:00:47
  she was killed down in a ditch by a pack of coyotes. If
• 1:00:52
  they get as an animal gets hungry, Jessica, no matter what, that
• 1:00:54
  an'mal only they includes people. Okay, they're going to do some thing out
• 1:01:00
  of the unusual, whatever that may be. And we've heard about, you
• 1:01:06
  know, the Donner case and the airplane crash in the in the South American
• 1:01:10
  mountains where people had to do what they had to do to survive, and
• 1:01:14
  they included eating their mates. That that's gonna happen with animals too, more
• 1:01:22
  so than with people. And so when animals get hungry, you know,
• 1:01:27
  all cars are on the table. Anything can happen here. They are,
• 1:01:30
  Okay, Aaron has a question or not a question of statement. Actually,
• 1:01:35
  if I remember correctly, the original werewolves back in the sixteenth century, Germany
• 1:01:39
  had to wear a magic girdle to transform. Are you familiar with that?
• 1:01:44
  Well, yeah, ash was a belt, not a girdle, it's really
• 1:01:47
  what's more, was very much like some of these wrestling belts, kind of
• 1:01:52
  a big belt like that, and it had different attributes to the different spells
• 1:01:57
  cast on it. And it had also the fur of a wolf on it.
• 1:02:00
  You had to have that, you know, that was a part of
• 1:02:02
  the motif, but it was something that was part of it. But the
• 1:02:07
  spells, the dark, witchcraft, the evil, the part that you had
• 1:02:12
  to commit to get that way. There's a long, long story, but
• 1:02:15
  it's a dark one because these were very dark and demonic powers that people were
• 1:02:21
  using. Who stuff the contractor says, I've seen coyotes and feral dogs work
• 1:02:28
  together outside of Casper, Wyoming and Rocky Mountain. Skywasher says, that's my
• 1:02:37
  coyote. Over here, a feral dog pack would attack before coyotes and at
• 1:02:43
  least what I've seen around here. Okay, so them Not long ago,
• 1:02:47
  they showed a pack of wolves going there since somewhere in Canada, and the
• 1:02:52
  wolves were like going through the far as through some heavy snow and riding on
• 1:02:55
  those pack of wolves was a golden retriever. He was living with the wolves.
• 1:03:02
  That's an interesting you know, you never know what may happen in nature.
• 1:03:07
  That's an interesting thing about nature. And I always think about this whenever
• 1:03:12
  I walked, however, started into the forest. What am I going to
• 1:03:15
  see today? What am I only experience today? Because you never know what
• 1:03:20
  you may find, Just like that guy you ran into looking for dragons,
• 1:03:23
  you never know what you're going to run into when you go out there.
• 1:03:28
  That's right. I was watching a drone footage video that a couple had locked
• 1:03:34
  their husky and couldn't find their dogs. Their husky had ran away, and
• 1:03:37
  so they put their drone in the air train see they could find it.
• 1:03:40
  And their husky had taken up with a pack of bears. Okay, and
• 1:03:45
  it was living its best life with this pack of bears. And so there
• 1:03:50
  you go. Okay, really really odd combination there. But what about the
• 1:03:55
  what about the idea of where was being shape shifters? Well, because reindigenizing
• 1:04:00
  minds Is had put something up here about shapeshifter histories. Do you think that
• 1:04:08
  there's I mean, I'm not saying that whatever escape from the circus in Tennessee
• 1:04:13
  was a shape shifter or actually even a real wearwold that it could have been.
• 1:04:16
  And what about it being a shape shifter. Potentially that's a possibility they
• 1:04:23
  had, supposedly. I have heard stories that years ago, back in the
• 1:04:28
  circuses, there were some people that could do some shape shifting and that's how
• 1:04:31
  they made their living in circuses. They could look like the animals they wanted
• 1:04:35
  to look like. Let me say this about shape shifting, and you've got
• 1:04:40
  to remember this very is very important, Jessica. When it comes to the
• 1:04:44
  talent of being able to shape shift, you're transmuting your form, you're changing
• 1:04:48
  reality in a different way. You have to have some kind of a power
• 1:04:55
  outside of the human spirit. To do that, you've got to look into
• 1:05:00
  something more powerful than you. Because we are not inherently shape shifters, that's
• 1:05:06
  not part of our makeup anyway, we get into that, we're into some
• 1:05:11
  really strange territory because you've got to go with them more. And I hate
• 1:05:15
  to say it, but here it goes that word again, supernatural territory.
• 1:05:19
  Here is something far above the normal. And when you get in fifteen,
• 1:05:25
  you get into some dark stuff. Absolutely. Well, there's my favorite shapeshifter
• 1:05:30
  out of the Appalachian Mountains is spear Finger, and that's a witch. You
• 1:05:36
  know, there's actually another story I almost forgot about. We could talk about
• 1:05:41
  the White Bluff Screamer. Okay, this isn't Tennessee and uh yeah, the
• 1:05:45
  White Buff Screamer. Yeah, that's an interesting Yeah, what do you think
• 1:05:50
  it is? Well, I figured you'd appreciate this story, Dennis. And
• 1:05:55
  about one hundred years ago, there was a family who just moved into the
• 1:05:58
  Trace Creek and Bluff area. A man, his wife, and their seven
• 1:06:03
  children. They just settled into their new home. They were hearing screams,
• 1:06:08
  blood curdling screams every night. The husband finally got tired of it and took
• 1:06:13
  his gun and went out to go look for whatever was screaming. And when
• 1:06:15
  he got deep in the woods, he heard screaming back at his cabin and
• 1:06:20
  then he ran back and his entire family was dead. And so there's different
• 1:06:27
  versions of the story. Some say that he saw like a mist form that
• 1:06:30
  looked like a banshee Okay, like a woman that was wearing like a white
• 1:06:36
  dress, like bloodstains all over her. So there's one story that goes in
• 1:06:41
  that direction. Okay. And then there's another version of the story is that
• 1:06:45
  he saw a white haired creature and some say it was a mountain lion.
• 1:06:51
  It could have been a mountain lion. Now, I've heard cats scream,
• 1:06:55
  and they do sound like screaming women. Okay, any kind of cat,
• 1:06:59
  A lot of different kind of cats sound like screaming women. I've experienced that
• 1:07:04
  too. I've been way out in the woods along in the dark, you
• 1:07:08
  hear something like that. It is freaky sound. Okay, it's definitely.
• 1:07:13
  It kind of very concerning, definitely, And mountain lions can sound very much
• 1:07:17
  like a screaming woman. But also sadequatch you know who admit some very horrific
• 1:07:25
  screams too, And that could be a possibility, is what the white screamer,
• 1:07:29
  white bluff screamer is. It could be a sadequatch as well, or
• 1:07:33
  a big cat. Yes, you know, my might go to when something
• 1:07:40
  happens, when people get mauled, My first thought is big cat. Okay,
• 1:07:45
  that's my first thought. Because they they don't leave a lot of tracks
• 1:07:48
  behind. Okay, They're gonna come down from a tree usually and they're gonna
• 1:07:51
  pounce on somebody. From up high going down low. Okay. So uh
• 1:07:56
  that's but but you don't know until a a good a team of good trackers
• 1:08:00
  can go out there and tell you what it was, okay. And that's
• 1:08:04
  why it's hard for me to buy the stories of like Brenda Hamilton, Okay,
• 1:08:11
  for instance, the lady out of North Carolina who was found deceased mauled
• 1:08:16
  okay in a drainage ditch. I did remote view that story. I do
• 1:08:21
  believe it was a big cat that that you know, that mauled her.
• 1:08:27
  But uh, but Lawana Murphy has a very interesting statement here. I think
• 1:08:30
  there's more to all the recent dog attacks in residential areas. This never used
• 1:08:34
  to happen to our elderly going to check their mail or going to walk into
• 1:08:39
  town. Children are preyed upon as well, and uh, and there has
• 1:08:43
  been it seems like, I don't know if it's just more out that sounds
• 1:08:48
  kind of like a cat activity too, you know. Just now you know
• 1:08:51
  I said before, when you walk into the territory of a big cat,
• 1:08:55
  it begins to immediately hunt you, hunts you in the kind of what we
• 1:08:58
  call a consentric church. It may be way out there and it's slowly that
• 1:09:02
  circle gets smaller and smaller and smaller than find it's gotchy. And that's the
• 1:09:06
  way a cat, the big cat works because of the shirt. And by
• 1:09:11
  the way, wolf packs kyodies do the same kind of a thing here.
• 1:09:15
  That's the way they hunt. They circle you. And here's what I've often
• 1:09:20
  told people. If you're in the woods and you hear a noise over here
• 1:09:24
  and then you hear it came back over here and slowly starts going around you,
• 1:09:29
  you may be in big trouble. You know something is stalking you.
• 1:09:32
  Definitely, yes, uh, something is stalked. Be careful. I know
• 1:09:38
  when we were out there doing that dog man hunt last week, the crickets,
• 1:09:45
  the tequidas, whatever it was out there, the frogs, it was
• 1:09:47
  so loud, it was. It was deafeningly loud almost, And so yes,
• 1:09:53
  I do think that I might have snort a little bit out there because
• 1:09:57
  I was so tired, But I wasn't really worried about it because I knew
• 1:10:00
  that my everything would be muffled by the cicadas and stuff. Okay, so
• 1:10:04
  but anyways, I asked a joke. Okay, but at the same time,
• 1:10:10
  whenever something stops like it was so loud. It was it was actually
• 1:10:13
  I love the sound. Hey, I'm a country girl. I love hearing
• 1:10:15
  that. I actually like a baby whenever there's a bunch of frogs, turban
• 1:10:18
  and stuff and crickets. Oh yeah, but it's when they stop, that's
• 1:10:25
  when you have to worry. Now, my friend Robbie Rains, he's on
• 1:10:30
  Da x Makin's podcast with Da. Just talked to him, by the way,
• 1:10:33
  Happy anniversary to Da Roberts today. He and his wife have been married
• 1:10:36
  for thirty one years. Hey, I messaged with him last night. Congratulations
• 1:10:43
  Da. But I was talking with Robbie. Robb is the one that actually
• 1:10:45
  turned me on to the werewolf springs, Okay, and he he kind of
• 1:10:50
  was the first person that really got me interested in wear wolf springs. But
• 1:10:56
  when he and I were up and he came down to Georgia. He lives
• 1:11:00
  in South Carolina too, by the way, but he came out of Georgia.
• 1:11:03
  And we've gone up to one of my research areas a couple of times
• 1:11:06
  together and both times we went there, especially the first time we went there,
• 1:11:12
  we were like screaming over each other from all the loud noises, the
• 1:11:16
  bugs, which was very unusual from the crickets and the frogs and stuff.
• 1:11:21
  And then as we were screaming over the the crickets, they stopped and we
• 1:11:28
  were still screaming at each other, talking loudly and uh. And it was
• 1:11:32
  jarring, to say the least. And we knew at that moment we were
• 1:11:36
  surrounded by something out there and it was a predator, okay, and so
• 1:11:42
  we we it was. It is kind of an unnerving feeling, but it's
• 1:11:46
  also an alarm system for us, okay, so you know that there's something
• 1:11:50
  out there. Now. I do believe those were big by the way I
• 1:11:55
  was interviewed about my big foot side and my vik knduff. And I remembering
• 1:12:00
  that night very well when I saw what I saw from my experience, I
• 1:12:05
  do remember up before that happened, everything done unusually quiet, the cricket squit.
• 1:12:14
  There was nothing, of course, there was no wind that night,
• 1:12:15
  but still I remember hearing that saying, and when I heard the cricket squit
• 1:12:20
  like that, I knew something was definitely out there. And that's a tailtale
• 1:12:27
  sign. Whenever you run into that, you know there's something probably very close.
• 1:12:32
  Oh, yes, for sure, Yes, quiet listener says, when
• 1:12:36
  everything goes silent, worry a predator is near. And that's one hundred percent
• 1:12:41
  right. Always always be aware, And that's why we were on the dog
• 1:12:45
  Man hunt. I knew that, like if I was when I did find
• 1:12:48
  I did go to sleep in my hammock, in my big foot burrito or
• 1:12:53
  my dog Mam burrito. I figured that if it's all went silent, I
• 1:12:57
  would wake up, okay, because it would be you know, I would
• 1:13:00
  hope I would wake up. But of course I think the guys, the
• 1:13:02
  guys would have wakened me up, woken me up, that had happened.
• 1:13:06
  Barry, Hey, Barry, very little sense in the chat today. What
• 1:13:10
  does Dennis think about the Waquila HeLa, Oh, okay, I've heard some
• 1:13:18
  stories about that, and uh, it is sort of very much kind of
• 1:13:23
  like that the white Screamer thing. Uh, there's a lot of different stories
• 1:13:29
  told about it, and it kind of reminds me of the Lampus Cat in
• 1:13:32
  some ways too. I know you're very familiar with the lump A Scout.
• 1:13:35
  I've actually been on looking. I went on a hunt one time for the
• 1:13:40
  Wampus Cat. So you've got different cryptids with different attributes it's very streamed,
• 1:13:45
  but it seemed like some of them pick out specialists. They specialize in things
• 1:13:51
  sometimes. That's why I put it that way. They're sort of specialist.
• 1:13:57
  Oh yeah, I'm not super familiar with the white. That's something to be
• 1:14:00
  cool to look into. Actually it would and anti venom, says Jessica.
• 1:14:05
  Carry pepper spray. It seasons you up for the presators. Makes me spicy,
• 1:14:12
  right, Oh my god, I'm not spraining on me though. Yes,
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  yeah, I want to taste as bad as possible for whatever predators are
• 1:14:20
  out there. Okay, I don't know. Whatever they don't like, I'm
• 1:14:23
  gonna eat and rub it all over my skin. I'll always if something's going
• 1:14:30
  to eat me, i'd rather make it have a hard time while that's doing
• 1:14:31
  that. I know, right, I know. I don't want to be
• 1:14:35
  something's dinner or something's lunch. I really don't. So uh. I take
• 1:14:40
  more than pepper spray out there with me personally. But I have a feeling
• 1:14:45
  that the guys that I go out and do research with and stuff, I
• 1:14:48
  have a feeling I know a lot of those guys, the ones that I
• 1:14:50
  was with last week at the dogman Hunt. They live in Tennessee, and
• 1:14:54
  they're not terribly far from Montgomery Bell State Park. Also, the bell Witch
• 1:15:00
  Cave is up there too, dinnis. Yeah, so I betted to go
• 1:15:06
  to the bell Witch Cave too, So that's the next on my list.
• 1:15:12
  Yeah, I've always wanted to go to the bail Witch Cave. Never had
• 1:15:15
  any chance to do it. I was close spy several times, but they
• 1:15:17
  didn't have the chance to do it, unfortunately. That's a fascinating cave and
• 1:15:25
  a lot of people have interviewed some of the relatives of the Ball family and
• 1:15:30
  they have some very interesting stories to tell. Absolutely. Oh, well,
• 1:15:33
  I've had Derek on my show. Derek is the fifth great grandson to John
• 1:15:38
  Bell and Derek you were on the show with us. You remember Derek you
• 1:15:43
  met him? Okay, we did that show we were talking about you know,
• 1:15:47
  he lives up at the Land between the Lakes. Actually, so you
• 1:15:50
  and Height and Derek did a show together. I'll be I forgot about that.
• 1:15:56
  I almost forgot about that. So yeah, I want to go up
• 1:16:00
  there with Derek too, and Dennis, you should join us. That would
• 1:16:03
  be a fun that'd be a fun trip. But don't get gravel stuck.
• 1:16:06
  In your shoe and go home with it because it's cursed, Okay, cursed,
• 1:16:13
  Yeah, I mean I wonder it sounds to me like this land that
• 1:16:15
  where will springs. I mean, people seem to potentially think it's cursed.
• 1:16:19
  I would assume if it's got were wolves out there. Well. I think
• 1:16:24
  some some lands Jessica have a darkness to them, inherent darkness. I think
• 1:16:30
  it has a lot to do with elemental spirits or something like that going on.
• 1:16:33
  But I think it also has to do with power too. There might
• 1:16:38
  be pockets of the planet we live on I talked about there before. In
• 1:16:41
  this respect, this is a living planet we live on, and there are
• 1:16:45
  pockets places where I think that the power is more stronger, in other words,
• 1:16:50
  than in some other places. And some things out there make to be
• 1:16:56
  tapping into this kind of power. You know, these there may be elemental
• 1:17:00
  type spirits and maybe some other things that use this power. It makes sense
• 1:17:04
  when you think about it, that they would be drawn to these areas because
• 1:17:09
  that you know, that's where the juice is. Absolutely the juice, that's
• 1:17:14
  right. Nighthawk William knighthawks in the chat. Hey William says, hello,
• 1:17:17
  good to see you. Can need to be the predator or the prey.
• 1:17:20
  Yes, I choose to be a predator. I'm going to be a predator
• 1:17:24
  out there. Okay. I don't mind being bait though, but then I
• 1:17:29
  switch it up on the real quick. Okay. I heard an old ranger
• 1:17:34
  say that one time years ago. You always want to be on the top
• 1:17:38
  of the food chain, not on the bottom. Absolutely, that's right.
• 1:17:43
  We have a question here in the audience. I see that comment, Fap,
• 1:17:46
  you're funny. Does Garbic repeal werewolves? Dennis? It does me,
• 1:17:53
  but well too much, Guardic, you're a were wolf here, that's vampires
• 1:18:00
  were wolves. I don't think that the the wolf spain is the thing you
• 1:18:04
  use on wolves. Wolf Spain, which is really uh, is very keen
• 1:18:11
  to the what's the name of a sort of a bluebal looking flower. I
• 1:18:15
  actually have some here wolf Spain, and uh. It is repellent to wolves.
• 1:18:19
  Actually, it is poisonous to dogs, cats and wolves, so it's
• 1:18:24
  a good idea to have it around your pets. But it would definitely be
• 1:18:30
  what you would repel aware wolf with. But it also supposedly works on vampires
• 1:18:34
  too, so it's a catch all thing and doesn't smell. It smells a
• 1:18:41
  lot better than garlic too. I like the way girl e smells, just
• 1:18:45
  as long as it's not emanating from my body. Okay, that's good.
• 1:18:50
  Reindigenizing mine says, all of these ancient printers, including Bigfoot, all seem
• 1:18:55
  to travel on our ancient indigenous trade routes. Well, I think, yeah,
• 1:19:00
  it's true to user an extent because a lot of those indigenous trails,
• 1:19:02
  yes, Goad, like I say, may have go along the power of
• 1:19:06
  this earth, of this planet. There were there were trails for a reason,
• 1:19:12
  and the ancient peoples, especially the indigenous peoples of this country, were
• 1:19:16
  tied to the land, and you know that was a strong tie they had
• 1:19:21
  and definitely would lay their trails out of that way for reason. Oh yeah,
• 1:19:28
  oh wow. Okay, Well, this is interesting because we reindigenizing minds
• 1:19:31
  has some latitude and longitude coordinates here for people to kind of see where these
• 1:19:39
  critters. Okay, the creators travel in uh and have here, So that's
• 1:19:43
  that's really cool. Yeah. Urso says that they know of an area in
• 1:19:48
  North Carolina where a lot of meteorites fall and the area's energy is really weird.
• 1:19:54
  That's interesting because I've I've done some some good a good bit of research
• 1:19:58
  up in North Carolina, and there's a lot of high strangeness all over North
• 1:20:01
  Carolina. I've actually dug up some iron meteorites in those areas. Actually,
• 1:20:06
  yeah, there's very at one time a heavy iron meteorite falls in those places.
• 1:20:15
  Iron meteorites are easy to find because you can pick them up with magnets.
• 1:20:19
  Usually you can magnifize them. But I think I'm trying to remember in
• 1:20:26
  my book The Road Unseen, i wrote it. I think it's the thirty
• 1:20:29
  seventh parallel or something like that. I can't remember now, but there's one
• 1:20:32
  certain parallel that runs straight across this country, and on either side of it,
• 1:20:38
  directly on it, and on the other side of it, you have
• 1:20:41
  the most paranormal activity that includes cryptids of any other places. It's strange that
• 1:20:48
  there is that one certain area that is so heavy with that. Like I
• 1:20:54
  said, you got to wonder about the power grids, Definitely you do.
• 1:20:58
  Carol Custer has a rush can lands be cleansed. It's very hard to do.
• 1:21:04
  It takes a lot of effort and takes more than probably one shot at
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  it. I'll say this before by land, and some of it I've seen
• 1:21:12
  that it's never been cleansed. It couldn't, it wasn't able to do it
• 1:21:17
  well. The thing about land, it seems to retain this darkness better than
• 1:21:21
  anything else, and it may have I have a theory about it being water.
• 1:21:26
  Water has been proven to have a memory, and the more water and
• 1:21:30
  a lot of this thing, a lot of cryptis sidings, a lot of
• 1:21:32
  paranormal stuff happens near large bodies of water. Water is a great conductor and
• 1:21:39
  even perhaps of spiritual energy as well. Water is a big thing. Water
• 1:21:44
  is life. We're water, We're mostly water. Think about it. And
• 1:21:48
  all of this I think has a strong connection to water. And they incluse
• 1:21:54
  the land. There's so much water, of a much of a water table
• 1:21:57
  in the land. I think that's got a lot to do it. But
• 1:22:00
  when it comes to elemental type spirits, it is it can be very freaking
• 1:22:04
  and it is very hard, very very powerful stuff to deal with. You
• 1:22:09
  have to you have to approach it the correct way. Yeah. Well,
• 1:22:14
  and you've got places like where I always bring up Corpsewood Manor up in northwest
• 1:22:17
  Georgia and that place it's just you know, the the Chickamauga Battlefields right there,
• 1:22:23
  and there's all the Satanic ritual activity going on there, a lot of
• 1:22:28
  bloodshed, a lot of blood, a lot of bloody and I can imagine
• 1:22:32
  that place would be really hard to cleanse completely. It would, but that
• 1:22:39
  would be one of the darkest areas of all husband shit. Oh absolutely.
• 1:22:44
  I've investigated a lot of murder sides over the years, and that's some of
• 1:22:47
  the darkest places you can go into. And it's still there. That's what
• 1:22:50
  I'm saying. It doesn't dissipate, it may not grow stronger, but he
• 1:22:57
  retains its strength there. Absolutely. Yes, william says most people manifest their
• 1:23:03
  fears without even realizing it. Yes, that's why we have to be very
• 1:23:08
  capful about what we put into our bodies. And that includes what we watch
• 1:23:12
  and what we read, okay, and what we listen to because we start
• 1:23:16
  like I always use that example of the first forty eight, that show that
• 1:23:19
  I used to watch and how I used to love watching it until it showed
• 1:23:23
  up at my doorstep. We've got to remember, Jessica, we all have
• 1:23:27
  a built in hard drive right here. Okay, everything gets stored, although
• 1:23:30
  we may not be able to recall it when we won't do That's like my
• 1:23:33
  couter is. But here's the thing about it. It all soaks in.
• 1:23:39
  It doesn't go anywhere, and whether you know it or not, it is
• 1:23:43
  part of you, Okay, whether you're conscious of it, it's still there
• 1:23:47
  and then goes with fear. You may push fear aside, but that doesn't
• 1:23:53
  usually kill it. You can deal with fear. You can even make fear
• 1:23:57
  work for you, okay, and certain, but it's still there. It's
• 1:24:01
  still a viable thing. You know a lot of people it is cooking on
• 1:24:06
  I'll caohol it cooking on the back burner of your mind. Yeah, okay,
• 1:24:14
  bigfoot in mounts, yes, okay, bigfoot in mounds and dog men
• 1:24:17
  in mounts too. And I think reindigenizing minds. You might be talking about
• 1:24:21
  the latitude and longitudes that you had sent and I did see that you sent
• 1:24:26
  me an email, So I'll check my email. By the way, if
• 1:24:29
  anybody sends me an email, it's the cryptid Hunters at gmail dot com.
• 1:24:31
  I know I have an old email running around. That box is full.
• 1:24:34
  I don't receive any emails in any there anymore, and I can't no matter
• 1:24:40
  how many I delete. I can't get it to give me my emails,
• 1:24:43
  okay anymore. So go to the Crypti Hunters at gmail dot com if you'll
• 1:24:46
  have emails to send me, okay, and I'll try to get back to
• 1:24:48
  you in a timely manner. I'll try, I promise, but thank you
• 1:24:53
  for that. So, yeah, bigfoots, dogmen, and the Indian burial
• 1:24:57
  mounts. Okay, they're the mounds. Yeah, there's there's there obviously.
• 1:25:01
  I guess they're along lee lines. There's a connection to cryptids and mounts.
• 1:25:09
  Oh, definitely, I think so, because the mounds. There's something special
• 1:25:13
  about the mounds. There's some kind of dark energy there. And I think
• 1:25:16
  these things, bigfoot other cryptis are cone to some of this stuff. Absolutely,
• 1:25:20
  Just like we thought about certain dog man and maybe werewolves being drawn to
• 1:25:25
  cemeteries. Uh, think about semmeteries. Okay, there you have the mortal
• 1:25:30
  remains of people, You have blood in the land. It's a dark area
• 1:25:34
  when you look at it. Places of the dead are definitely that way.
• 1:25:40
  I think a lot of these things are drawn to spiritually, some in some
• 1:25:45
  freaking kind of way. It's a spiritual tiele them of some sort. It.
• 1:25:49
  Yes, Carol Cusser has an interesting comment in a book series that she
• 1:25:55
  read handcuffing in silver prevents wear wolves from shifting. Is there any truth in
• 1:25:59
  that? I don't know. I wouldn't want to attempt it. But here's
• 1:26:06
  what I can say. Usually normal chains will not hold away it wolf.
• 1:26:11
  He can break them very easily. Like I said, you're dealing with a
• 1:26:15
  supernatural creature. If you had silver handcuts, that might be a novel idea.
• 1:26:18
  That might be some way to. I don't know if it would keep
• 1:26:20
  them from changing, but it might keep them from breaking loose. That might
• 1:26:25
  be a good way to, you know, take care of them. But
• 1:26:29
  it can be silver all day long. But it has to be blessed,
• 1:26:33
  you know. I've not talked to a lot of people about this. When
• 1:26:35
  I was in law enforcement, Jessica, I even had my bullets blessed that
• 1:26:42
  I carried. I had my gun blessed just in case I ran over a
• 1:26:46
  chains anything. Whatever it might be good or bad, you have to think
• 1:26:51
  about that. And when it's blessed, gives it the power to disperse the
• 1:26:57
  supernatural energy that you're running up against. That's the main focus. It doesn't
• 1:27:01
  matter what it can be copper, it can be silver, it can be
• 1:27:05
  iron. Irons good, by the way, very good. And uh you
• 1:27:10
  know, I recommend people that if you have some kind of bad activity going
• 1:27:13
  on around your house, you take large tenpenny nails and drive one each in
• 1:27:18
  the corner outside the corner of your house, every corner of the house,
• 1:27:24
  in the corner of your yard, whatever it may be. Drive them down
• 1:27:29
  in the ground. That's a good protective shield thing going on. These things
• 1:27:32
  hate iron for some reason, and if they hate it, I like it.
• 1:27:36
  That's the way they go. Oh yeah, Now, if you're considering
• 1:27:41
  handcuffing it, wear wolf, I would recommend shooting it with a blow dark
• 1:27:45
  perse and putting it to sleep. I'm just saying that's just what I the
• 1:27:49
  way I think. Okay, I would not I would not even attempt at
• 1:27:54
  whatsoever. Oh my gosh, I'm not looking back, baby, you're hilarious.
• 1:28:00
  Okay, thank you for that comment. Okay. Lawana says there seems
• 1:28:02
  to be symbols around witchy grounds like cross sticks and weird arches made of branches,
• 1:28:09
  which is bigfoot activity too. I wonder if people misidentify these signs for
• 1:28:13
  bigfoot and what their connection is, if any. So that's a good point
• 1:28:16
  too. Could some of these bent arches, because I mean I've actually had
• 1:28:19
  videos of some that I've come across that are bent sticks or bent trees and
• 1:28:25
  they're held together like in asterisk is what I call them, with other sticks
• 1:28:30
  and hide together. Could that be witchy or is it always be? I
• 1:28:34
  don't think it's always bigfooted? What do you think, Dennis Well, I
• 1:28:40
  think you'd have to be you have to be very discerning with what you're looking
• 1:28:43
  at. I've seen structures that are supposed to put together by Bigfoot where they
• 1:28:46
  weave branches together, but never seen any in a symbol like there would be
• 1:28:51
  with a witchcraft symbol like the very famous Flyer witch symbol that hangs with the
• 1:28:57
  trees together, the limbs together from the trees and all that. If you
• 1:29:00
  walk up on usually a witchcraft symbol, you can know without doubt there's some
• 1:29:03
  type of a symbol. Bigfoot doesn't usually do that. He doesn't usually make
• 1:29:09
  symbols like that, although I do think they leave markers with certain piles of
• 1:29:15
  stones that they do, and they may break and bend branches in certain ways
• 1:29:20
  to leave signs and signals for each other. I think they have a communication
• 1:29:26
  like that going without a doubt. But when it comes to witchcraft symbols,
• 1:29:30
  you'll know these are symbols definitely by the way the very way they're put together.
• 1:29:36
  But to me, you just have to be careful what you're looking at
• 1:29:40
  and trying to understand what it is you're seeing. Man, if you okay,
• 1:29:44
  so I just watched The Blair Witch Project about a week or about a
• 1:29:47
  week ago with my son. My son was watching it, and I highly
• 1:29:50
  recommend letting your kids watch that at some point because it'll keep them from wandering
• 1:29:55
  off in the woods. I'm just saying. I know it sounds terrible,
• 1:29:59
  but I don't think my son's gonna leave my side now for a while when
• 1:30:01
  we're out in the woods. Uh but uh but yeah, if you if
• 1:30:04
  you're going in the woods and you start seeing like what looks like voodoo dolls
• 1:30:09
  or some kind of weird blair Witch dolls put together hanging from trees and stuff,
• 1:30:15
  go the other way or something like, just go around it. I
• 1:30:17
  don't know. Just take caution, Okay, take caution. It's never a
• 1:30:20
  good thing, never a good thing, especially if it has to do with
• 1:30:25
  pentagrams upside down definitely give away. Uh. You know, I standing to
• 1:30:30
  Dennis, we should sorry a lot of rooms. You know, if you
• 1:30:41
  study the rooms and know what they look like, you know what you're dating
• 1:30:43
  with. Uh, that's that's got a lot to do with it as well.
• 1:30:48
  You know. I just I just had a really crazy idea, like
• 1:30:53
  just go and make a bunch of those little if you've got a place that
• 1:30:55
  you don't want people to like trespass on to, Like we've got some private
• 1:30:58
  property, especially, make some of those crazy looking witchy dolls out of the
• 1:31:03
  sticks, like Blair witch and it kind of put them in the trees.
• 1:31:08
  Oh yeah, we actually pick on my farm. Well, we have a
• 1:31:11
  family farm and uh and we've been having a really bad problem with people trespassing
• 1:31:15
  to come and sneak onto the property and go fishing in our lake and stuff.
• 1:31:19
  That's a wondering. You know. We put no tresspassing signs up.
• 1:31:21
  We keep cutting through our fence. I'm going to go and put some dolls
• 1:31:27
  in the trees. I'm going to go make some weird stick figures. I'm
• 1:31:30
  just saying them up. That'll stop them, that'll teach them yeah, years
• 1:31:39
  ago, years ago, people used to uh bury witch showers around their property.
• 1:31:45
  I know you've heard of those. They put certain items in a jar
• 1:31:48
  mason jar and bird them in different corners and most like that supposedly to cleanse
• 1:31:54
  the land. But you have other markers, like like nailing a doll to
• 1:31:59
  a tree or something like that would definitely get your point across. Yeah,
• 1:32:03
  it would get your point across for sure. Look, Shadevakin says that he
• 1:32:09
  never finished The blair Witch because it was too weird. It was really weird.
• 1:32:13
  It's actually that that movie is supposed to be a documentary and it will
• 1:32:16
  make you don't eat right before you watch it because it's really shaky. Okay,
• 1:32:21
  it's really shaky. It can make you get what is that called vertigo
• 1:32:25
  or something which which could definitely suck. Uh. It was it was filmed
• 1:32:31
  to be disturbing. I think that's part of it, that shaky camera effect
• 1:32:36
  that throws you off balance definitely. And uh and the way it ended was
• 1:32:42
  freaky, but it was it was put out that way to be a found
• 1:32:46
  footage and all that based on a legend, urban legend. It was bound
• 1:32:51
  to be as unsettling as possible. That's what the whole focus was for that
• 1:32:56
  film. It's terrifying, terrifying because then you throw in like the idea of
• 1:33:01
  feral people too. I mean, the hill have Eyes is actually what kind
• 1:33:04
  of scared me from going into the woods for a little while, especially around
• 1:33:10
  Tennessee. Okay, I'm just gonna say old world Cryptid Carolina says Tennessee is
• 1:33:16
  a hotspot. There are families there of vampires and wear wolves and dog men
• 1:33:21
  and they fight each other for land. I think you have a lot of
• 1:33:27
  You have a lot of that in the Appalachians, definitely. You've got a
• 1:33:31
  lot of dark magic in it. And the people. You got to remember
• 1:33:34
  something about the people of the Appalachian Mountains. They were mostly settled by the
• 1:33:39
  Scots, Irish and Welsh people who brought over their legends and their stories of
• 1:33:45
  magic and all that with them wherever they traveled, their culture with them,
• 1:33:49
  and that's part of the appolations. But you know, you look throughout the
• 1:33:54
  world of the different mountain ranges like the Clarpathian Mountains and the Alps, all
• 1:34:00
  these different have their own sets of legends. There seems to be there's something
• 1:34:04
  very spiritual and mysterious about mountains, mountain ranges especially. You seem to have
• 1:34:11
  more magic there than other parts of the world. You do and around mounds.
• 1:34:16
  This is really cool, Aaron says, I'm going to Old Mulgi Mounds
• 1:34:19
  tomorrow. I know of a ghost light story there, but not any cryptids.
• 1:34:23
  It's so close to Macon, though, that the people have probably scared
• 1:34:27
  them off. Now, Okay, this is in Georgia. Okay, this
• 1:34:30
  isn't Georgia. Down Macon is actually in the center of Georgia, middle right,
• 1:34:34
  dead center, pretty much down farther south from where I live. But
• 1:34:40
  lots of well, there's actually an air Force base there, okay, like
• 1:34:45
  military stuff going on, and it's it's a scenario high strangeness too. And
• 1:34:49
  just below there we've got a lot of bigfoot reports and dog man's hidings,
• 1:34:55
  a lot of army bases around there. Let's just say so, yeah,
• 1:34:59
  in the in the mounts, let me know what you feel. Okay.
• 1:35:02
  When I got out of the Edawa Indian Mouns last time I went here up
• 1:35:04
  in North Georgia, I actually heard clear audiently. I heard like giants,
• 1:35:12
  giants as soon as I stepped out of my vehicle, and I do believe
• 1:35:15
  I believe there were giants there at some point. Okay, so let me
• 1:35:19
  know erin if you if you get the giant vibe when you go to that
• 1:35:23
  mount I'd love to hear about that. Well. Yeah, you know,
• 1:35:28
  giants are associated with mountains a lot, mountain rangers and all that. And
• 1:35:31
  we've talked about before. They love the caves, the cave systems. I
• 1:35:36
  think the caves are attractive to a lot of different entities. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:35:44
  for sure, absolutely. I'm looking through. We have a lot of
• 1:35:48
  great comments in here today. I'm trying to cover them all before we go
• 1:35:51
  today if I can. Okay, let's see wheel rider we got. This
• 1:35:59
  is Derek Okay, quiet listener research Marley Woods, Missouri football. Okay,
• 1:36:03
  that's football. Okay, we're not talking about football. Talking about football.
• 1:36:09
  I did have a show one time where we ended up going on a tangent.
• 1:36:12
  The guy that my guest was talking about baseball. And I know y'all
• 1:36:14
  remember that because I even complained about that one. Okay, even complained about
• 1:36:18
  that show. So forgive me for the baseball show that happened a long time
• 1:36:23
  ago, y'all. Scarecrows Robin. The earliest recorded use of scarecrows thinks back
• 1:36:30
  to ancient Egypt, where farmers use wooden frames covered with nets to protect their
• 1:36:33
  wheat fields along the Nile River. Okay, oh yeah, and they thought
• 1:36:39
  they might have been begun with the religious ceremonies where they actually used this is
• 1:36:44
  what we're talking about dollars earlier. They actually used modests of people in some
• 1:36:47
  of these religious ceremonies. Think about the wicker Man, the very famous mooth
• 1:36:53
  the wicker man that made a huge man out of a wicker thing and burn
• 1:36:58
  it as a ceremony. And of course there's that very famous ceremony, the
• 1:37:00
  burning man ceremony. And I think it's in Utah somewhere like that Wyoming.
• 1:37:08
  Yeah, oh my gosh. I think y'all are giving me advice on what
• 1:37:14
  to do to scare off the trespassers. And yeah, I would not turn
• 1:37:17
  the leak red. That's a bad idea. Okay, that's really read an
• 1:37:23
  account one time of one hundred. I think this was somewhere in Tennessee that
• 1:37:27
  this happened. Actually came up on a circle in the woods that were steaks
• 1:37:32
  all around it and on every steak, there was a deer skull, and
• 1:37:36
  he said he always thought this was like a Bigfoot burial ground or something.
• 1:37:43
  And he said it didn't look like a witchcraft thing or anything like that.
• 1:37:45
  It was almost as if it were like very close to the way the indigenous
• 1:37:50
  peoples used to set up their graveyard cemeteries. So it was very much like
• 1:37:55
  that. And he often wondered if it was some type of a Bigfoot symmetery.
• 1:38:00
  And you know, I've often wondered about that, where would Bigfoot do
• 1:38:03
  that? Would they be like elephants or they have an elephant graveyard type thing
• 1:38:08
  going on, but they would take their dead and bury them under rocks or
• 1:38:13
  bury them in the ground. Ever, how that went. You have to
• 1:38:15
  wonder about that. If it has their own culture set up like that,
• 1:38:23
  well, that's yeah, that's kind of creepy. Speaking of circles in the
• 1:38:26
  woods, the water, Murphy says, I came up on a circle of
• 1:38:29
  dried grass lay down with a pile of tiny bones like a chicken right in
• 1:38:32
  the center. I've always wondered if a bear had a picnic or in a
• 1:38:35
  sleeping spot, or if it was cult related. That sounds kind of cult
• 1:38:40
  related. What do you think that, Well, it sounds very much cult
• 1:38:45
  thing because in some certain certain witchcraft ceremonies, by magic ceremonies, you cast
• 1:38:48
  the bones and you cast the feathers, and they're usually chicken bones and they're
• 1:38:54
  usually tied fetishes of feathers. You cast them to predict the future or see
• 1:39:00
  someone coming or whatever the situation is. Uh, that's part of a witchcraft
• 1:39:03
  ceremony absolutely, and that has to be done in a circle. Okay,
• 1:39:11
  wow, that's why. Why why do people who do and I'm not I
• 1:39:15
  don't know if you can answer to this completely, but why do why do
• 1:39:18
  a lot of rituals happen outdoors like that? Is there a reason instead of
• 1:39:23
  doing an indoor somewhere? Why where are a lot of these rituals done out
• 1:39:26
  in the woods? Well? I think I think there was like there again,
• 1:39:30
  that magical tide to the land. I think it had to be done
• 1:39:34
  away places like like Stonehenge was put together for certain things like that. Matter
• 1:39:39
  of fact, I was reading the other day whether it actually recreated stone Hinge
• 1:39:43
  ai wise and found out that it has perfect sound anthitheater inside of it,
• 1:39:48
  and you can hear the sound outside of it. That's interesting. So it
• 1:39:54
  was evidently designed for ceremonies of something of some type. Uh, you had
• 1:39:59
  a lot of that going and on, and that I think to ancient peoples,
• 1:40:03
  the greatest cathedrals and churches were the outdoors to them. You know,
• 1:40:09
  I think I had a lot to do it that. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:40:13
  Hannah says, the energy is raw and like the doors. Okay, so
• 1:40:16
  that's that would make sense. And Aaron says that you will let me know,
• 1:40:20
  Okay, let me know how it goes. Did that did that mount
• 1:40:25
  tomorrow or today? Whenever you're going none of it, says I think caves
• 1:40:29
  are connected to the deep underground military basis. I think. So there's a
• 1:40:34
  rumor that this planet that we're sitting on, this honey home with untold tunnels
• 1:40:41
  that run all over this planet, and if you were to get into certain
• 1:40:45
  tunnels, you could go anywhere you wanted to underground. You would includes under
• 1:40:48
  oceans, and uh, it almost sounds like we're living on an ant hill,
• 1:40:55
  doesn't it. It does. It does, says energy, the openness,
• 1:41:00
  and usually no intrusive thoughts for people spying on you. So that's out
• 1:41:03
  in the middle of the forest. We do have a question. Make you
• 1:41:09
  a tan fall one I had? Oh my gosh, I need a tenth
• 1:41:14
  little bonnet. You know, so well, that's you have to wait and
• 1:41:19
  read the biography. Okay, okay, okay, all right. Abbott says,
• 1:41:25
  I was Dennis raised my wolves? Where you Dennis? Yeah, I'm
• 1:41:30
  a wolf. I'm along the way back. Yes, well, I I
• 1:41:38
  saw a video. You know. I have an uncle, Okay, not
• 1:41:42
  not, it's like my dad's cousin. I called him my uncle, okay,
• 1:41:45
  and uh and I remember he was uh. Oh, I just I
• 1:41:50
  shouldn't be talking about my uncle obviously, because I just went off. I
• 1:41:54
  got taken off streamyard, dear. But I have my dad's cousin, and
• 1:41:59
  he he was so hairy. He was a very very hairy guy. And
• 1:42:03
  uh and I always looked at him, and I never forget that. When
• 1:42:05
  I was a kid, I always wondered, like, as he all wear
• 1:42:09
  wolf in the world, because any you know, there's a lot of people
• 1:42:13
  with you know, a lot of body here. Nothing wrong with it.
• 1:42:16
  That's just how we're made, some of us. Okay, but yeah,
• 1:42:21
  I don't think he was a werewolf. Okay, So he was not a
• 1:42:24
  were wolf. But I do remember thinking that when I was a kid.
• 1:42:28
  Okay, well, I like wolf basically was one of my favorite animals.
• 1:42:33
  But uh uh. You know, it's interesting to think about that the wolf
• 1:42:40
  has so much in common with us, and it's so deep in our culture.
• 1:42:45
  You know, it's very interesting when you think about it. And yet
• 1:42:48
  we admire and we have sort of a love hate relationship with We admire them
• 1:42:55
  their freedom in there and the way they're they're bond to nature. But yes,
• 1:42:58
  we also have a few of them, which is interesting. It's a
• 1:43:02
  deep psychological thing. I think it is. It is let's see, Okay,
• 1:43:13
  I said this is going back to doing the rituals outdoors. I've done
• 1:43:16
  rituals for that reason in places like that. So and it's because of the
• 1:43:20
  energy, the openness and no intrusive thoughts. Okay, you can't quiet in
• 1:43:25
  your mind when you get out in the woods, and it's a beautiful place
• 1:43:28
  to go, reset your recharge your batteries on an energetic level. So I
• 1:43:32
  can I can understand. I can totally understand that. Yeah, And the
• 1:43:38
  point we are energetic things. To me, there's always sort of a comfort
• 1:43:44
  in the woods, in the forest to I don't know, it's just sort
• 1:43:47
  of a I don't know, it's words. You kind of kind of connect
• 1:43:50
  with your spirit in a different way than you can anywhere. You know,
• 1:43:57
  Yes, absolutely, and Robin says moonlight at night for rituals, firing candlelight
• 1:44:02
  as well, and sun rituals. Okay, Well, there's no doubt that
• 1:44:08
  there's a lot of ritual stuff going on in our woods, our forest.
• 1:44:11
  There's a lot of cryptids, a lot of cryptids being conjured, and there
• 1:44:15
  are some potentially some remnants of some of these circus deil train derailments, potentially
• 1:44:21
  even at Werewolf Springs in Tennessee. Dennis, this has been a fantastic show
• 1:44:27
  today. My goodness, We've really covered a lot and I really enjoyed covering
• 1:44:31
  the circus workers. You know, there's actually another story that involves circus workers
• 1:44:38
  encryptids. If you guys were calling Kentucky, I know we've got some Kentucky
• 1:44:44
  folks in here today, the story of the Kentucky Goblins. All right,
• 1:44:48
  if you all remember this story, there was actually a family visiting the family
• 1:44:55
  who lived there in that home, and they worked for a traveling circus or
• 1:45:00
  traveling carnival well, there's been there's been speculation Jessica that that might have been
• 1:45:11
  a bunch of circus monkeys that actually got loose, and uh, cause that
• 1:45:15
  competition and these people being sort of bad people have never seen an ape or
• 1:45:20
  a monkey like that or something. That's what supposedly scared them so bad that
• 1:45:26
  that is an interesting possible explanation for some of that. But of course there
• 1:45:30
  is a u UFO siding connected to that as well, or there could have
• 1:45:38
  been monkeys on a UFO too, just kidding, that's wild. I mean,
• 1:45:44
  I did. I did this. This was given to me as a
• 1:45:45
  remote viewing target a long time ago, and I do think that they were
• 1:45:50
  some sort of like some other kind of being. I'm not going to say
• 1:45:55
  an extra terrestrial, but maybe some kind of crypto terrestrial. There was something
• 1:45:59
  they were weird. They were glowing. Okay, so they were glowing.
• 1:46:02
  That is a super interesting story though, and I just it did come to
• 1:46:08
  mind when I was doing my research today. I was like, wait a
• 1:46:10
  second, we've got another story with circus workers. Okay, people that were
• 1:46:15
  with a traveling circus, And yes, we did. For people who were
• 1:46:18
  tuning in later in the show, Dennis and I did talk about the traveling
• 1:46:24
  circuses that came through. You know, this is the interesting picture, Dennis,
• 1:46:28
  because there's a giant in that picture. Okay, giants the main show.
• 1:46:34
  I think now, giants were way more prevalent back then. We actually
• 1:46:40
  had giants like people with giants tanture living here. But at this point,
• 1:46:45
  I don't know when this picture was taken. This is probably in the early
• 1:46:48
  nineteen hundreds, maybe nineteen thirties, forties. That was a that was an
• 1:46:55
  oddity. At that point, there weren't many giants left. Of the only
• 1:47:00
  John I ever met, I actually met at a circus. It was a
• 1:47:03
  really nice guy, and he was I think about almost I think well slightly
• 1:47:11
  over eight foot tall, and really nice guy. And of course he had
• 1:47:16
  a disease, the giant giant townvis disease, and his heart was not growing.
• 1:47:23
  I had not grown at the rate of his body. But I'm six
• 1:47:26
  foot four and I barely came up over this guy's belly button. Okay,
• 1:47:32
  this guy was tall, and he was really nice guy though. He that's
• 1:47:38
  how he made money traveling with a circus. Wow, I've got some I've
• 1:47:43
  just got some pictures. I love these old carnival pictures, the old circus
• 1:47:46
  pictures and stuff. I mean, how cool was this? I mean this
• 1:47:49
  was a main form of like entertainment. When the circus came to town,
• 1:47:55
  everybody went, everybody went, and uh yeah, there were a lot of
• 1:47:59
  kids, like you said yourself, you know, wanting to go peek up
• 1:48:01
  under the dancing girl tint. I can only imagine how you know what that
• 1:48:09
  was like back then. You know, this is a cool one. I
• 1:48:11
  found this picture. This guy is I forgot, I can't read that.
• 1:48:15
  But he was the snit the rattlesnakes rattlesnakes sam or something like that. And
• 1:48:19
  uh and he's got he's actually got rattlesnakes wrapped around his arm. Okay,
• 1:48:24
  I mean dangerous. Okay, that's dangerous. But he was the rattlesnake guy.
• 1:48:31
  My favorite, Jessica was the human blockhead. He could actually nail nails
• 1:48:36
  of his nose and it was wild, the most unusual you could get.
• 1:48:44
  That's what they wanted because it was all about making money, you know,
• 1:48:46
  and if you bring the people in, the more money you made. But
• 1:48:53
  they were a lot of of course, my all time favorite one that always
• 1:48:57
  loves the magicians always liked to watch the magicians that they had. But uh,
• 1:49:02
  the side shows were something special too, definitely. Uh. You had
• 1:49:08
  of course the beard lady. You had that. Yeah, the beardy lady,
• 1:49:14
  which is usually probably just just a woman with a good makeup beard on
• 1:49:17
  you, but a man or a man wearing a dress too that. Yeah,
• 1:49:24
  there were some women that I actually had beard. Yeah, a lot
• 1:49:27
  of this stuff. You could knew what you were looking at, Jessica,
• 1:49:30
  whether it was really true, is real, or if it was fake.
• 1:49:33
  You know. Well, that's the interesting thing about the circus. Uh.
• 1:49:38
  The circus was all about imagery. It's all about the image. Yeah,
• 1:49:45
  thats an interesting one. And that remind me is in that picture of the
• 1:49:48
  Siamese Twins, that was a yeah, yeah, there you go. Uh,
• 1:49:55
  we should probably not watch that too long because there's a man with his
• 1:49:58
  booty showing. Okay, I mean this is where the kids. The kids
• 1:50:01
  got to throw balls at mannequins there. That looks fun. Now there's a
• 1:50:08
  couple of them that that are really interesting. I mean, this is this
• 1:50:10
  is back from the eighteen hundreds right here. I mean, look, how
• 1:50:13
  elaborate that fluat is right there. You know, we're taught that things were
• 1:50:15
  so primitive back in the eighteen hundreds, but I don't know if I buy
• 1:50:19
  it. Okay, Oh, here we go. We got the lobster man
• 1:50:23
  right here. I've seen, you know, documentaries on on this guy's family
• 1:50:27
  and uh and this woman has a big foot to me that looks like elephant
• 1:50:30
  Titus. Okay, so these are genetic woman, lobster boy that you see
• 1:50:35
  there, that's a very famous one. And the big the woman with the
• 1:50:41
  big feet that those are medical conditions basically. Yeah, but like I say,
• 1:50:47
  if they can make money on it, that's what it was about.
• 1:50:50
  That's what it was all about. Oh yeah, I don't know what this
• 1:50:55
  is. That said, Oh it's like a kid with the with the hair
• 1:50:58
  problem. I got, I mean problem, but you know, like the
• 1:51:00
  disease or the disease that like the monkey boy. And that was another interesting
• 1:51:06
  they had the monkey boy and h that's a I think your beauty lady there
• 1:51:12
  definitely half oh yeah, the half man, half woman. That's the guys.
• 1:51:17
  Yeah yeah, oh yeah. Now this one, this one right here,
• 1:51:21
  I showed this while I go this, look at that carriage. Okay,
• 1:51:25
  so we think about like the Old World style stuff. And you know,
• 1:51:29
  if we're if we look at this from the history that we're taught,
• 1:51:31
  like the eighteen hundreds were just so primitive and wooden shacks and stuff. But
• 1:51:35
  yet we have these elaborate buildings and stuff that were around that were founded eventually.
• 1:51:42
  But look at this carriage right here. That looks like something out of
• 1:51:45
  you know, like Cinderella or better. Okay, that looks expensive. That
• 1:51:51
  right there is a calliope wagon. They played music. It's so life was
• 1:51:56
  an organ line. Oh well, okay, yeah, steam or something like
• 1:52:02
  that. It's called a calliope wagon. Wow. I mean just just though,
• 1:52:09
  like, h this just this opens up another whole rabbit hole can go
• 1:52:14
  down. And of course we got the hippopotamus here, so we're talking about
• 1:52:16
  exotic animals being showcased throughout the United States back then. Uh, they even
• 1:52:23
  had hippos. These are dangerous, by the way, those are super dangerous.
• 1:52:28
  But the hippopotamus in the wild Yessico, it would be one animal would
• 1:52:32
  not want to run into. Those things are deadly. Uh. They come
• 1:52:36
  up out of the rivers the lakes. They can chump down on you in
• 1:52:41
  a minute and you're gone. I would not want to get in the water
• 1:52:44
  with hippos now, Oh no, definitely not. Uh. Yeah, I
• 1:52:47
  agree with Rocky Mountain Skywasher. Everything we've been taught might be byes there.
• 1:52:53
  I don't know. Uh, it's up to everybody to decide for yourselves.
• 1:52:57
  But I would agree with that statement. A lot of things we were we
• 1:53:01
  have to kind of unlearn the things we've been taught and think critically about some
• 1:53:06
  of this. I think bt I think it was P. T. Barnham
• 1:53:11
  who was involved with the most one of the most famous scryptids of all.
• 1:53:14
  Remember that Jessica the Fiji Mermaid. Remember that one? No, I don't
• 1:53:19
  remember that one Fiji Mermaid was actually part I think ape and part fish sewn
• 1:53:29
  together. And he claimed it was a murmaider. Yeah, very famous script
• 1:53:33
  did supposedly the Fiji Mermaid. I was going to try to pull it up.
• 1:53:41
  Let's see, I think it was. It looked like a f I
• 1:53:45
  j I eighteen forty two. So this was back in eighteen forty two.
• 1:53:51
  Let's pull up a picture. Yeah, this thing looks weird. Hold on,
• 1:53:57
  I'm not sure. I think this is a reproduction of it right here.
• 1:54:00
  I'm gonna go ahead and pull this up. Yeah, it looks it
• 1:54:02
  looks like a strange camera or something or you know. To me, I
• 1:54:09
  think a lot of taxi germists got creative too. Okay, so uh,
• 1:54:15
  it's it's hard to tell, but this looks like it could be legitimate.
• 1:54:18
  Let's pull it up. It looks like a half human, half fish.
• 1:54:23
  And it's not the pretty kind of mermaid either. Dennis, Well, I
• 1:54:29
  think it had he had taken the body of a circusade that had died somehow
• 1:54:32
  another that's the way he did stuff. And they took this and a taxidermists
• 1:54:39
  took a fish. There it is, that's it and put it together and
• 1:54:44
  uh and it was hit one of his most money making exhibits that he ever
• 1:54:49
  had, and he admitted himself that it was fake, and people still wanted
• 1:54:56
  to see it and paid money to do it. Well, that's that's interesting.
• 1:55:01
  I would I would pay money to see that. Back in the day,
• 1:55:06
  I think I would. That's uh, that's interesting. There's I'd like
• 1:55:11
  a good look at it. Yeah. Yeah, these days we have so
• 1:55:15
  much AI and stuff and everything we do is online. Now, we don't
• 1:55:17
  get out as much and go see things hands on. I like to go
• 1:55:20
  to museums. I think it's really cool. We have a Bigfoot museum here
• 1:55:25
  in Georgia. I don't know if y'all been to it. Uh My cousin
• 1:55:28
  Jesse made the big, gigantic bigfoot that sits out in front of it,
• 1:55:31
  made out of muscadine vines. That was made by my my first cousin.
• 1:55:34
  Okay, and uh, so I love I love that museum and I highly
• 1:55:39
  recommend people get out and go see that stuff. Okay, but yeah,
• 1:55:43
  as far as these you know, taxiderm things, that's what I think that
• 1:55:46
  could be right there. But hey, they're making money, okay, and
• 1:55:53
  uh, and it's for entertainment purposes, right, Dennis, Just like all
• 1:55:57
  my shows, they're for entertainment purposes only, all right, But yeah,
• 1:56:01
  but this is this has been fantastic, Dennis. Thank you so much for
• 1:56:05
  being here with me today and uh and going over all of this wear Wolf
• 1:56:11
  springs information with me and uh in the circuit traveling circuses and all that.
• 1:56:15
  And I know you have a show tonight. Tell the audience about what you've
• 1:56:19
  got going on tonight and about your YouTube channel. Okay, Well, tonight
• 1:56:25
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• 1:56:30
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• 1:56:35
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• 1:56:41
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  Okay, and thank y'all so much for being here. I did see
• 1:57:24
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• 1:57:27
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• 1:58:00
  It's on my website, so you'll go to my website and check that out.
• 1:58:03
  Okay. Well, Dennis, I'll be in your chat tonight and definitely
• 1:58:10
  watching the you said Babba Yaga, I have not is it Baba or Mama?
• 1:58:15
  Is Babba Yaga? Right, I'll be there. Bobba Yaga, Bobba
• 1:58:21
  Yaga, Okay. I don't want to see that name too many times because
• 1:58:24
  it's like the s Walker that we talk about. You don't want to see
• 1:58:27
  the name too many times because it will you'll get its attention. Okay,
• 1:58:31
  So we got to remember that. Yep, we got to remember that,
• 1:58:34
  all right, Dennis, Well, thank you again so much. Do you
• 1:58:36
  have any final thoughts on what we talked about today? Well, I think
• 1:58:42
  it was a lot of legend around well. Well springs makes a good story
• 1:58:46
  though, but I think it was already a legend there in place before the
• 1:58:49
  so called train in the circus thing. But I think that got kind of
• 1:58:54
  blended into it. And that's the way all good legends start, you know.
• 1:58:58
  There's a blend of many different things. But it's interesting, definitely,
• 1:59:02
  and I would still like to go back. Although I've been there, I
• 1:59:05
  was still like to go back again one day and and ground away all those
• 1:59:11
  springs absolutely see what I might turn up. Yeah, well, I think
• 1:59:16
  that I have another another destination location for another I'm going to say expedition with
• 1:59:26
  some of my some of my dudes, we go out there and do some
• 1:59:28
  cryptid hunting with Okay, so I might be going up there myself here pretty
• 1:59:32
  soon. I do have a couple of trips planned up to Tennessee. I
• 1:59:35
  think next month. Okay, so next month, so I might be going
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  up there too. But hey, everybody, you guys, please come back
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  and see me tomorrow night. I will have a remote using show tomorrow at
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  eight pm tomorrow night Eastern here on the channel. So y'all please come back
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  and hang out and please go hang out with Dennis tonight all over on his
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  channel Hunting the Shadows. Okay, y'all, please go subscribe over there and
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  let's get him to a thousand subscribers. Is coming soon. I know it
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  is, Dennis, and I can't wait. So thank you again for being
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  here. Jane says, have a great date in everyone, and keep your
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  vibrations high. I agree, you guys, keep your vibrations high. And
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  stay safe out there, okay, because there are things roam in our woods.
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  Okay, there are things out there that can meet us. But just
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  you know, just be a weird. Don't live in fear. Okay,
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  don't live in fear. Go out and have some fun today, okay.
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  Enjoy this hot weather, all right, Okay, Dennis, have a great
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  night. I will see you tonight over on your channel, y'all. Stay
• 2:00:39
  safe everybody, and come back and see me tomorrow night. And I'll see
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  you tonight, Dennis. Bye, y'all, Hie bye, hie b b
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  Lane, Lame movie to be in Man, most Lass and many tas