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It's Time To Cut Ties With Miles Mikolas · Kenny Wallace Media

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  What's up, guys? Welcome back to Three Up, Three
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  Down, coming to you live on a Monday before the Monday Night
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  Football game. We got an off day today for the
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  Cardinals, which is a relief to everybody watching this video.
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  After a spirited, spirited series win against Milwaukee,
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  the Cardinals laid a total egg against the Mariners, who I told
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  you guys couldn't score. Well, I didn't factor in certain
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  things that we're going to discuss later in this video so
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  that, you know, it was a tough weekend to be a Cardinals fan
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  for sure. Obviously, you could distract
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  yourselves with the football on Saturday and Friday and Thursday
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  and Sunday. But yeah, it wasn't a great
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  weekend to be a Cardinals fan. I know that just last week I
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  told you guys we're going to talk downs first, but we've got
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  to flip the script this week. We got to talk OPS first because
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  I need to get into the downs. We're going to dive deep into a
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  specific down that I know everybody wants to talk about.
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  My first up, Pedro Pajes, pretty much since the moment I said I
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  don't really want to see him play anymore, he's been hitting
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  big. Two run Homer Saturday night.
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  You'd hope that they could carry that momentum into Sunday.
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  They couldn't, but that's OK. I still am really interested to
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  see what they do with the catcher's position going
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  forward. You know, they have three guys
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  under club control next year. They've got Wilson, Herrera and
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  Pius. You got to make a a choice on
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  Herrera at some point. I feel like this is like year 4
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  for him kind of being like he's in the mix, but he's not in the
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  mix and then he's going to do 2 months in Memphis.
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  So I'm really curious to see what they do there.
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  My preference would be Contreras and Herrera.
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  They need bats. Those guys can both hit.
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  I understand that the pitchers like throwing the Pius, but I I
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  don't think the glove gives you enough to justify it.
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  My second up is Kyle Gibson. I think Gibson, first of all,
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  he's nailed Saturday night. Great start.
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  He's had a really interesting season to me because it does
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  feel like every time I'm kind of starting to think I can trust
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  this guy, he's going to give me 5 to 6 strong, he goes out and
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  lays an egg. He dealt with the back injury,
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  You know, he was on bereavement leave earlier this year or
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  paternity leave this year. So you know, it it, it's been a
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  really interesting leave for, for Gibbs year for Gibson.
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  He's had 154 innings, 27 starts, 8K's per nine and a 4.2 or a
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  what I what I find so interesting about it is they
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  they've got a club option on him next year and I don't think
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  they're going to pick up Lens, but I do think they're going to
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  pick up Gibsons. He's going to end up around 170
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  innings at a 4.2 ish ERA. Like if you had told them that
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  from the jump at the beginning of the season, I think they
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  would have taken that and I think they would have said yes,
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  we are picking up that option. My third up.
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  I feel like I say it every week guys, but Helsley is
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  unbelievable. 43 saves. We got to get him six more and
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  get the club record. I, I just feel like he deserves
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  it. That guy is so, so good.
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  I still really haven't gotten over what he did in Milwaukee.
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  I know I talked about it on the last video.
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  So we're not going to dive too much further into that.
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  The thing that interests me about Helsley is I'm really
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  interested to see what they do with him this offseason.
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  He has one year left of club control and arbitration.
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  He's going to make a boatload of money, a boatload of money.
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  And the Cardinals have tended to not pay relievers.
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  They DFA Trevor Rosenthal before his third year of ARB.
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  Now he had an elbow thing. So it it, it depends a lot on
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  these guys, but they're gonna come to a decision on Helsley at
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  some point here where they're probably gonna have to trade him
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  or extend him. You got to think about it this
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  way. And if they don't think the club
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  is gonna be very good next year, which I'm really curious to see
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  what they do, I think they're gonna trade him because Helsley
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  is probably the guy on the club right now that is the most
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  elite. You know, he is the best at his
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  possession relative to all of the other guys at the position.
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  I think he's going to get you a ton, especially if you trade him
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  in the offseason so another team gets him for a full year.
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  I knew a lot of people wanted to trade him in July and just like
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  load up on prospects, but I think they're going to move him.
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  That would be my guess if I had to guess today.
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  If they don't extend him at a good number, which they just
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  don't like paying relievers, they just don't do it.
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  It seems like when they do it, it doesn't go well.
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  So Andrew Miller, Brett Cecil or two that come to mind.
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  So I I think you're going to see him walk, which is a bummer or
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  not walk. I think he's going to be traded,
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  which is a bummer because he is a really good pitcher, but I
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  think they could get a haul for him.
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  Pitching prices have have changed a little bit.
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  You know, I looked at some comps, I thought like Chapman
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  when he was moved in 16, Andrew Miller when he was moved in 16.
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  But those guys were both moved for like top of the org
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  prospects. I don't think you're getting
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  that anymore for Helsley. The way the game has changed,
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  the way teams kind of hoard prospects more than they used
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  to. But you could still go out and
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  get an impact outfielder, an impact center fielder from the
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  Orioles. The Orioles, I always need
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  bullpen help. They're still relying on Craig
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  Kimbrel. I'm surprised they didn't push
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  for Helsley in July. I would have if I was the
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  Orioles because they're they're in a chance to win right now.
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  But this offseason is going to be really interesting.
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  Those that were super tuned in, remember I told you guys 3 weeks
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  ago, Gary Larocque was out. He was going to retire.
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  I guess I, I didn't say it very firmly, but it's official.
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  He is retiring. So I do find it really
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  interesting to see what they're going to do this offseason.
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  I don't think it's a given MO is back.
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  He will be on the staff somewhere, but I'm not sure he
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  will be the decision maker next year.
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  I think Kind Bloom is very involved and anytime you bring a
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  new guy in, it's really interesting to see who else they
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  bring in. I think you have to bring in
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  somebody from the outside to run the farm, to take over from
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  Little Rock. Just change the scenery, change
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  your voice, makes up the message a little bit here.
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  Because if you, if all they do is is replace Lorac with someone
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  who is similar, you're not you're not going to see anything
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  different. I think Kime is going to be big
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  there. Let's talk the downs, the
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  standings. Yeah, it's it's probably over.
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  There's six back. To get to 88 wins, which is the
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  magic number, the Cardinals have to go 16 and 4.
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  Atlanta and New York would just have to go 10 and 9.
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  It's going to be tough to go 16 and 4.
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  I don't think they've had a stretch that good since probably
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  the 17 game-winning streak. Really tough to do my second
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  down. Let's talk starting pitchers
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  right now in the staff. The Cardinals have two guys.
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  Matt I guess isn't in the rotation right now.
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  Right now they've got a guy and 1/2 that I, I can't, I can't get
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  anywhere near. So what I did was this was a
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  laborious task, but after work today I tiered every Cardinal
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  starting pitcher to make a start since 2011.
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  I'm going to try and RIP through these.
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  Some we can agree, some we can disagree.
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  I'll dive into a few. My first tier, ace, Wainwright,
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  Flaherty, Waka, Carpenter, no brainer.
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  My second tier, no complaints. Gibson, Gray, Fetty Hap, Wade
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  LeBlanc, who saved the 2021 season, Jaime Garcia, Kyle
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  Loesch and Edwin Jackson. My third tier.
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  I wish we'd had more time together.
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  Jordan Montgomery, Jose Quintana.
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  I think both those guys would still be really good fits.
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  I know Montgomery's had it down here.
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  My 4th tier traded for a superstar.
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  Austin Gomber, Luke Weaver, Marco Gonzalez, Shelby Miller.
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  You can nitpick with the bottom 2, but Tyler Ward was a six war
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  player. Tyler O'Neill was a six war
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  player. Jason Hayward was a six war
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  player. Mike Myers, his tier that start.
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  John gassed his tier, not John Gant.
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  Drew, ROM, Paki, Naughton, Genesis Cabrera, Tyson Ross, Tim
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  Cooney, Miguel Bautista, Brandon Dixon.
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  No recollection. Justin Masterson literally had
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  one good start. Daniel Ponce, De Leon almost had
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  a no hitter in his debut, so we think way too fondly on his
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  Cardinals career. Zach Thompson, Dakota Huts and
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  Jake Woodford. First round picks who weren't
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  very good. Steven Max, John Gant, Mike
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  Leak, Nick Greenwood. I would never want this guy
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  starting a game. Tyler Lyons, Jake Westbrook.
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  I would only want this guy starting big games, No normal
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  games. Lance Lynn, Lance Linn, Andre
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  Palante, Johanno Viedo, KK and Joe Kelly, relievers who were
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  actually pretty decent at starting.
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  Matthew Libertour, Jordan Hicks, Kyle McClellan, better as a
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  reliever, Graceffo and Mcgreevy. Give me more of these guys and
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  less of the guy we're going to talk about here in a minute.
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  Carlos Martinez and Alex Reyes. Carlos Martinez and Alex Reyes,
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  Jon Lester, John Lackey. Both guys that I loathed until
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  they were Cardinals and then I couldn't get enough of them, and
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  then I was so sad when they were gone.
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  Oh, I hated John Lackey. But then 2015 John Lackey was
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  elite. My last and least here, Miles
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  Michaelis got a twenty $40 million extension and has had an
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  ERA of five point 1-2 cents. I'm done.
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  I can't. I will not watch another
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  Michaelis start this year. That's a promise.
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  I will watch the offense. I will find a way to to make
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  sure I know what happened in those games.
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  I will not watch Miles Michaelis start again this year.
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  He is terrible every time something goes wrong.
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  He had started earlier this year.
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  Where I think he got called for a balk when he definitely balked
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  and he was like I'm mad. So then he threw 3 pitches 97
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  for no reason whatsoever. I'm done with it.
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  I agree with everybody else that says they need to DFAM.
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  It's a sunk cost. Get get rid of him.
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  He is not going to give you anything next year.
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  You already have Steven Matz here.
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  You're going to have to deal with missing 3 months next year.
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  I, I just, I loathe watching him.
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  He had a good 2018. He had a great 2018.
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  You know what? He had a great 2018.
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  But since then it has just not been worth it.
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  He was fine in 19, he was fine in 22, but I can't stand
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  watching him. The attitude's terrible.
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  The results are even worse than the attitude.
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  Done. Let me know what you guys think
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  about the tears. I'm going to tweet the link.
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  Tweet the picture as well. As always, thanks for the
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  feedback on the last video. Let me know what you guys think.
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  Looking forward to talking with you after the week is over.