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November 28, 2025 · The Hot Line w/ Jeff Graham

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the two national guard members 20-year-old Army Specialist Sarah Bechstrom's was shot Wednesday, has died, and CBS's Stacy Lynn reports.
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[SPEAKER_37]: A new gallop survey finds only 49% of Americans say religion is important to their lives.
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[SPEAKER_37]: Still, the book sales tracking firms cercannas as more than 18 million Bible have been sold so far this year and 11% increase over last year.
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[SPEAKER_37]: The Bible is having a moment.
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[SPEAKER_37]: I think there's some unsteadiness in the world when things are a little uncertain and they're looking for peace.
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[SPEAKER_37]: They often turn to God.
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[SPEAKER_37]: They turn to the Bible.
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[SPEAKER_37]: Bible sales surged in the weeks after the assassination of conservative Christian activists Charlie Kirk.
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[SPEAKER_37]: Michael Wallace, CBS News.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Scientists have detected what they believe to be lightning on Mars.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Meanwhile, in this hour, I want to bring in Mark Kregel, who's Mark Kregel, a fantastic sports writer and writer overall who decided to focus on while his favorite sports boxing.
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[SPEAKER_31]: And then his favorite one of his boxes that he covered the most is Mike Tyson, who better to do a book on Mike Tyson, the Mark Kregel, here it is.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Demato continues to be one of the foremost fight managers in the business.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It is stable at past butialists includes former champions Ford Patterson and Jose Torres.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And now is season by for talent as part of the fresh up and coming young heavyweight named Mike Tyson.
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[SPEAKER_06]: My Tyson has an exceptionally good record.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He had maybe a dozen fights in the junior Olympic championship, and he knocked out every fight he fought to win the national championship twice.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Tyson not only has a very hard, pristic punch in either hand, but he has developed a root of qualities and has the most important qualities to win.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He has to desire to win.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He wants to be the best.
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[SPEAKER_31]: custom auto weighing in the legendary custom auto weighing in on Mike Tyson, the teenager in route to becoming a heavyweight champion, which I don't think he was able to see because he passed away.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Basically raise Mike Tyson in a group home up in Cascill's, New York.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Mark Criegel knows all that more, boxing analyst, essayist for his PN, he's got a brand new book out called The Badest Man, making of Mike Tyson.
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[SPEAKER_31]: What do your thoughts?
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[SPEAKER_31]: Great to see you.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Yup.
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[SPEAKER_31]: You're right for us.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Mark, you're thoughts, do you remember that?
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[SPEAKER_31]: Yeah, of course.
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[SPEAKER_31]: You're thoughts hearing a custom auto speak.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It began with cost, the push to make Mike Tyson.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it was the greatest marketing push certainly in the history of combat sports and it began with this fable of cost in the kid and cost had been responsible for getting Floyd Patterson, who was basically
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[SPEAKER_10]: Not much bigger than a middleweight, to be the youngest ever heavyweight champion.
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[SPEAKER_10]: That, in itself, was improbable.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And then, Cust found themselves essentially in a state of, it's almost a self-exile for many years.
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[SPEAKER_10]: What Cust had done while he was developing Patterson, was he became a darling of all the writers.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Norman Mailer, gay to lease.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Guys are really substantial presences.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Pete Hamill guy was my rabbi.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And by the time he found Tyson, there was already a kind of ready-made script and it was pretty much a resistable out cuss in the kid.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's almost like cuss had been hip and abs and for all these years.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And it was coming back down off the mountain.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And the other kid he was going to be the youngest
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[SPEAKER_10]: and the greatest and the best in some sense as he was, but also that that fable kind of missed the nuance.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_31]: He was a man child, right?
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[SPEAKER_31]: I mean, do you think they were using performance-hancing drugs?
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[SPEAKER_31]: It was he looked at him at me that big.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He was having a hole, right?
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[SPEAKER_10]: He was not.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He didn't have that stuff there.
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[SPEAKER_10]: They certainly didn't have that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's like Sparford trying on the places where he was in detention.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, they had like street drugs.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Mike was essentially raised on the street.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It was all sort of dysfunction came to bear on him.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It wasn't particularly unique to fighters, but I think in Mike's case it was more intense.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So you had a guy,
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[SPEAKER_10]: in Bobby Stewart, probably the only one in the whole story who's entirely selfless, who sees Mike in Trion, upstate, you've been, there's an infamous New York juvenile detention center spoffered, the Bronx since close, they sent him upstate and he sees his kid wants to fight.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So he starts working with them, and then he brings them to tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Because he knows he used to fight for jump-to-mine.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He used to use to fight for tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And tomorrow had been, tomorrow had almost theological sense about fear.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it was a beautiful construct that he had about overcoming bullies and dealing with your fear.
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[SPEAKER_10]: The irony is that, you know, Bobby Stewart brings him in, and day one, because says, oh my, he's a heavyweight champ.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And, um,
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[SPEAKER_10]: what I think and Tyson push back on this when when we spoke with two sort of phone sessions just to sort of establish rules of engagement.
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[SPEAKER_10]: But I said, you know, Mike, I'm not sure because did you, every favor in the world, he wasn't asking you to,
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[SPEAKER_10]: He wasn't saying we're going to turn you pro or we're going to put you in the golden gloves and see how you do kid and get you a GED from the beginning it was you're going to be the greatest and the best.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And I think that what he was what he was asking Tyson was make me a mortal, make me custom motto immortal and this is
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[SPEAKER_10]: you need a huge ego to be a fighter whether it's UFC or boxing what makes you think that customer felt that way because he I think that he wanted very much to leave his mark on the game and he had been an exile and I think it bothered him deeply and it didn't
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[SPEAKER_10]: There are two kinds of fighters.
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[SPEAKER_10]: There are fighters, you don't know their stories.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And there are fighters who have, you have, have stories.
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[SPEAKER_10]: My story was spectacular.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It just, you know, it didn't, wasn't the full truth.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So, right.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So, he, so Bobby Stewart, brings me the custom model, custom model, develop some.
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[SPEAKER_31]: He got to almost make the Olympic team.
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[SPEAKER_31]: He famously has a meltdown with Teddy Atlas before him, because he's so nervous.
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[SPEAKER_31]: What if I lose?
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[SPEAKER_31]: Is everyone going to leave me?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Jim and Teddy outless was the, Teddy was the guy who, but Cuss entrusted with much of the training.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Who do you think is one of the great personalities in sport, right?
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[SPEAKER_10]: I think that, I think the Teddy was a great trainer.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He was certainly a very formative influence on me.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He informed a lot of my thinking on Tyson when I was, when I was in Newspaper, Columbus, which was uniformly negative.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Because they had a huge falling out.
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[SPEAKER_10]: They had a huge falling out.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Tyson, we're meant to, Teddy's problem with class.
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[SPEAKER_10]: was Cuss's ambition.
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[SPEAKER_10]: The one word that Tyson never heard was no.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So he'd always get bailed out if he got in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He made apparently a pass at Teddy's wife's sister.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And Teddy got really upset about it.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Pulled a gun on him, and that was the end of Teddy in camp.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Then he was given over to Tyson was Kevin Rune, which is why for most of his career, they're early part of his career.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He's one of Kevin Rune.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So here he is.
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[SPEAKER_31]: This 19 year old gets a shot of the championship.
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[SPEAKER_31]: He fights Trevor Burvik.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Who's a big guy?
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[SPEAKER_31]: Who beat Mike Tyson famously in Barbados.
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[SPEAKER_31]: And I think, I'll leave fast.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Beat, I'll leave.
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[SPEAKER_31]: And last fight in Barbados, cut 51.
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[SPEAKER_25]: And he is all like Tyson on his way to becoming one of the obvious takeaway champions of all time.
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[SPEAKER_25]: Thanks for my walk, but I don't think that is Tyson.
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[SPEAKER_25]: Catch him on the way, look what he wants to have.
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[SPEAKER_25]: He goes down, he should be able to get up from this.
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[UNKNOWN]: This life may be shut down.
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[UNKNOWN]: That is credit for it.
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[SPEAKER_25]: He's got the heart, but his body won't land gold in my wednesday, and he's found it out.
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[SPEAKER_25]: And he's called as a knockout.
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[SPEAKER_25]: He's laying thundering on to ten.
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[SPEAKER_25]: It's all over.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He's a flaming anyway champion in the world.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Does that mean to him?
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[SPEAKER_10]: It wasn't just how Burric, it wasn't just that Burric went down.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He fell in every corner of the ring.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He fell like three or four times.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And one of the things it crystallizes for America is how devastating a puncher, Tyson, is this was not a normal knockdown.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It was not a normal knockout.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And again, it crystallizes the notion of just how destructive a puncher he was.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Which changes after that?
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, Tyson was famous in a kind of American way that killed Elvis or Marilyn Roe, or conceivably, too, Bob, it's a form of insanity.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And again, he never heard the word, no.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, he wasn't in a peculiar way.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I'm a machine to say this.
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[SPEAKER_10]: You know, throughout the 90s, I started writing the column.
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[SPEAKER_10]: My first Tyson assignment was a covering cops and courts.
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[SPEAKER_10]: for the news and later for the post was like, one up to Harlem, he just got into a fight with Mitch Green at Dapper Dan's.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Was Dapper Dan's in a club?
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[SPEAKER_10]: No, it's a clothing store.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Get your ass up.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Come on, hurry up.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And what I was seeing without knowing it
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[SPEAKER_10]: It was a young guy falling apart, you know, the fights with Robin give in, the throwing stuff around the mansion and Bernard'sville.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And I was really caught up in the rush of it.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it was my first run.
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[SPEAKER_31]: It's a sensational story.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it is.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it is.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So, and then,
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[SPEAKER_10]: It was very friendly with Teddy at the time, and it didn't form a lot of my thinking on Tyson.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And Tyson was not behaving particularly well, so it was easy for me to make him the villain in my column.
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[SPEAKER_10]: That too lacked some nuance.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It wasn't necessarily wrong, but it wasn't until the years later, 2012, I'm writing a column for Fox.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And I go to see his one-man show in preview.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I find myself in the unlikely position of holding back tears and he's not at all polished.
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[SPEAKER_10]: You know, as before, Spike Lee got a hold of it and put it on Broadway, it was still raw.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And I meet him after the show and he's like recently sober.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I think he was like a vegan that month or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And he asked me, I tell him about depot dance and the rest of it running around chasing him.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And he says, how'd that make you feel?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Which is not the question I was expecting.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Has it made you feel, how'd it make you feel?
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[SPEAKER_10]: I said, what do you mean?
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[SPEAKER_10]: He goes, how'd it make you feel?
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[SPEAKER_10]: For about, it was a rush, it was like a drug, that kind of story, the heat, the adrenaline, that story generates, and it just kind of nods.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And he wasn't disapproving.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Even though I was picking up part pieces of his life, it's as a lot of us.
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[SPEAKER_10]: were.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And to me, that was the first time you became actually human, not an abstraction, even though you know, I'd had interactions with them with the fights during his trial, but it wasn't until that moment that he became real to me, if you will.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Here is Mike Tyson, he was at a zenith park, I would argue against Michael Spank's Cut 52.
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[SPEAKER_25]: He went just a lot ready to go.
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[SPEAKER_25]: The opening bell, let's see what's happened.
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[SPEAKER_25]: Nice and it takes immediately.
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[SPEAKER_25]: That's up to rank 12, so why am I there?
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[SPEAKER_25]: It's nice and all the way here round number one.
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[SPEAKER_25]: Buddy shot, no, don't go.
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[SPEAKER_25]: Nice, makes for the rest time.
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[SPEAKER_25]: The counts of the four and five and six and seven and eight.
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[SPEAKER_25]: That was a body shot that took him down.
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[SPEAKER_25]: It comes, makes, makes in.
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[SPEAKER_25]: He leaves the right hand.
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[SPEAKER_25]: Now, there he goes.
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[SPEAKER_25]: I don't think you're getting up from there.
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[SPEAKER_25]: The cut is up to five, it's six, it's seven, it's eight, he won't be able to do it, it's all off.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So people should understand, Michael Spacen loses anything and the Olympics didn't lose anything as a light heavyweight, beat Larry Holmes twice to speed it to the second time.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So when he gets in the ring, he's undefeated and unbeatable and he's never been knocked down.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Never been knocked down.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And then Tyson knocks down 90 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_10]: 91 seconds, that thing is over.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And that's the highlight, that's the high point.
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[SPEAKER_10]: of Tyson's professional career.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's hard to imagine how keenly anticipated that fight was.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It was essentially promoted by Trump.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He wanted to make a big show of it and he did a pretty good job of that.
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[SPEAKER_10]: But 91 seconds and people talk about spinks who have been through every kind of test, not just in the ring, but in life, appearing
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[SPEAKER_10]: frightened on the one his way into the ring and he tried he actually tried to press the fight because his his manager at the time told him you got to run across there and you got to get your respect and back didn't do
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[SPEAKER_10]: I didn't really do much, but the interesting thing about Tyson, for all the stuff that of Demodal's theory of fear and conquering bullies, was that Mike did just the opposite, he projected fear onto the opponent.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He made the opponent scared, and some of these guys are pretty seasoned.
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[SPEAKER_10]: guys, like Bruce Alden got hit on the top of the head.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I would like to talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_28]: What is it about my Tyson?
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[SPEAKER_28]: What are they trying to make Tyson?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, there's a certain charismatic way that my kin is that I haven't seen in very many people.
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[SPEAKER_07]: There's beyond even as a fighter is an incredible fighter.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He's a great machine as a fighter, really.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's the one you can say.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He's just an incredible fighter, but he's got a magnetism and it's a personal magnetism and a magnetism.
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[SPEAKER_31]: And that is Donald Trump then back in the 90s who talked about Mike Tyson and he did promote some of his fights and of course Donald Trump was a dominant figure in Atlantic City.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Mark Cregals here is focused now out is called Badest Man, the making of Mike Tyson.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Mark Trump played a role with Tyson, right?
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[SPEAKER_10]: One of the things that Trump wanted from Tyson was, I mean, it's a pretty astute.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It was a pretty stupid business move.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He was the piece that Trump needed to take boxing away from Las Vegas and move its center to Atlantic City.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Didn't ultimately work out like that.
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[SPEAKER_10]: But that was the calculation.
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[SPEAKER_10]: The same way.
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[SPEAKER_10]: One of the things, there's always this huge economic imperative with Tyson.
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[SPEAKER_10]: The same way that Netflix wanted him for all the livestreams into a stab or some sells in live sports programming, sold at HBO, need Tyson, and the same way that a decade later they would use Tony Suprano to establish their primacy in the 18 to 49 year old male demographic.
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[SPEAKER_10]: There's always this incredible economic engine, and it's because of the knockouts.
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[SPEAKER_10]: the genesis story and you know restless call at a promo but as soon as he touches the microphone it's like wait what did he say and how did he say it it's it's not like anything else you've heard before so you go through this course if uh if Mark Cree goes sit there in the age there's no way Mike Tyson's alive in 2025
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[SPEAKER_10]: You think the one thing his haters like me and his accolades and Tyson himself could have agreed on the late 80s 90s was that he was not long for this world That day when I met him in 2012, I guess I asked could you imagine being this old he was 45 he says no never never even occurred to me
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[SPEAKER_10]: His life was apocalyptic, and for me, I need to part of me needs to love the subject even if I don't like him.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And when the publisher approached this idea, I said, no way, I can't do Tyson.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I've written more bad stuff about Tyson than anybody.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And I started to think about it, I'm an older guy, I've been to my own stuff.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And I started to think about what he had survived.
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[SPEAKER_10]: boxing, which is a pretty treacherous thing to survive in and of itself, the death of a child, booze, no dad, cocaine, no fathers, you know, his family was discrete as one of his next
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[SPEAKER_10]: It made me respect the guy and I think that there is some virtue when having survived.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And there's this finally, there's this idea that this guy who was a villain.
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[SPEAKER_10]: is now pretty much universally beloved.
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[SPEAKER_10]: How the hell do we get to you?
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[SPEAKER_10]: That would be it.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_31]: His mainstream the other thing is he did go to jail paid his time.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_31]: And he paid his death back.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So he basically paid off what did work his butt off to pay off back all these deaths.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Didn't he?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, uh,
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[SPEAKER_10]: He pays debt to me.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I'll tell you that.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So let's don't mean that it's cynically as it sounds.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Yeah, if I survive.
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[SPEAKER_29]: I think we both always had a passion for justice right we came together as as best friends about 15 years ago and both moved to Los Angeles with dreams of being content creators entertainers and as I was telling you off camera we kind of stumbled into it in 2016 when I received a robot call wasted the guys time and the call went crazy.
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[SPEAKER_29]: I don't know, I think I was, I mean, we had already opened, we had actually just open trilogy as like a production company, like maybe a month prior, and so I was, I had content creation on my mind, but I wasn't thinking this was going to be anything like that was going to make a fun Facebook video for my friends.
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[SPEAKER_29]: I thought it was like three minutes.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And then the call was like 50.
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[SPEAKER_29]: It's very ridiculous on paper.
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[SPEAKER_29]: But I, of course, since then, we've learned how deep these scams go and how crazy they are.
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[SPEAKER_29]: But it was just trying to get money out of me.
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[SPEAKER_29]: I was just wasting this time being, I was playing a loof just playing dumb, just letting them do his thing.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And he got so mad that I wasted almost an hour of his time that he went off screened at me.
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[SPEAKER_29]: actually at the time it freaks me out, but it's still posted video and it went like at this point it's got like 300 million views or something.
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[SPEAKER_29]: 300 million.
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[SPEAKER_29]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_29]: There's not a lot of this right now.
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[SPEAKER_29]: Let's give it a shot.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And so we just started making videos together, wasting their time.
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[SPEAKER_30]: At dot time, it's a such a niche category on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_30]: from back in the days to till present day, obviously community got better.
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[SPEAKER_30]: But when we started, it was like two, three content creators and those content creators, hackers, what do we call them, social engineering people, they would not show the face.
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[SPEAKER_30]: So it's like nobody, and especially us, we sort of different, and we like you put us together as a magic happen.
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[SPEAKER_30]: And we just like start doing in practical jokers and just going with different types of scams and having a lot of fun with it, but also educating people about this.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So tell me how you play this out now.
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[SPEAKER_31]: I saw some of the video already.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So give me an idea.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So what happens is you get, they come after you or you go after them.
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[SPEAKER_29]: As far as the scammers go, we go after them.
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[SPEAKER_31]: And this show in particular can get in touch with you to sound being scammed.
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[SPEAKER_29]: Yeah, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_31]: I think you tried to help them.
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[SPEAKER_29]: We're fortunate enough to have built an audience.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And now we get inundated with more submissions than we can handle to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_29]: But it's heartbreaking.
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[SPEAKER_29]: You read these stories every day.
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[SPEAKER_29]: But this show has given us an outlet, a platform.
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[SPEAKER_29]: for us to be able to see these victims interview them get their story and actually pursue with the help of our revengeers in the show actually pursue the scammers and bring them to justice.
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[SPEAKER_30]: We have public submission, right in our YouTube channel, Trudy Media.
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[SPEAKER_30]: So we will go and we will do the interviews, we're going to talk to the victims, we're going to see like what kind of story.
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[SPEAKER_30]: And go through the story, meet the victims, and you'll learn.
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[SPEAKER_30]: All right, how did you get scammed?
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[SPEAKER_30]: How do you move like house cameras to kill money and we, you know, follow the money you're going to find the bed guy and we'll learn and we go if they're Come from working together with the police do whatever he takes you you get the cops involved.
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[SPEAKER_30]: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_29]: That's started.
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[SPEAKER_29]: We learned a lot about that over the course of
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[SPEAKER_29]: You know, since 2020 since we've been confronting them in person, we would notice that we'd post a video.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And like a year later, we'd get a call from, you know, US government or an email from dot guv.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And they'd be like, hey, we're now looking into this thing that you happened to cross over, can we get your raw footage?
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[SPEAKER_29]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_29]: No problem.
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[SPEAKER_29]: it's gained some traction, especially with the show we've been able to do collaborative efforts we're actually seeing more law enforcement take action on scam baits which is huge and it's never really been done before.
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[SPEAKER_29]: So the fact that they're actually teaming up with us and listening to us and we just had a federal indictment that was for like a $65 million scam.
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[SPEAKER_29]: You go and get their money back?
40:45
[SPEAKER_29]: That would be nice.
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[SPEAKER_29]: It's usually not possible.
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[SPEAKER_29]: That's usually not the key.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And it's out of our hands if it is.
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[SPEAKER_30]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_30]: You know, but what we can do because we have amazing platform and we have amazing fence.
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[SPEAKER_30]: We will open the GoFongMe for some cases and try to get money.
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[SPEAKER_30]: Some money back.
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[SPEAKER_30]: We want to play out this game on me.
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[SPEAKER_30]: Yeah, we've done that a few times.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Yeah, fun.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Me's a big place for this game No, no, just to help victims.
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[SPEAKER_29]: I'll help you out.
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[SPEAKER_29]: Yeah, if they let us tell their story publicly and and take the vulnerability that comes with Saying that I was a victim to a scam.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So it was a couple of this categories who were going to see on the Fox Nation special number one tech support scam.
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[SPEAKER_29]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So we're here to help you are Apple or somebody else So pop scam when you have no computer.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Can you give me an idea how they lure me in?
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[SPEAKER_29]: It will come either with a, like you said, a pop up on your screen, what's really prolific right now is emails with fake invoices attached from the companies, the impersonate PayPal or Amazon, and they'll send you a receipt for a purchase so you didn't make.
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[SPEAKER_29]: I didn't make this purchase, it's $500.
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[SPEAKER_29]: I don't want to pay for this, and they're encouraging you to call the number back.
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[SPEAKER_29]: You call the number back.
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[SPEAKER_29]: You get a scam call center.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And they are telling you, oh, it must be a mistake.
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[SPEAKER_29]: We'll fix it for you.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And then they want remote access to your computer.
41:53
[SPEAKER_29]: It's a whole social engineering process against the victims.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And once they get that access, they have access to your banks.
41:58
[SPEAKER_29]: They have access to everything.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And they convince you that your money is in jeopardy.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And you have to move it somewhere else to keep it safe.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And that's where this game comes in.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So, was here with Ashton Bingham and Art Cooleyk and they have this brand new series on Fox Nation called Scam, getting even, it premieres today, so you can go right now on Fox Nation, but don't leave yet.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Art in particular, for example, if I get lured in and I think that PayPal, for example, I, someone charge on my PayPal account.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So, I go in and I call the number and I'm saying, oh, you're going to get this fix.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So, by the time,
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[SPEAKER_31]: I'm hit and I lose, let's say $1,000.
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[SPEAKER_31]: I contact you and then what do you do?
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[SPEAKER_31]: Can you possibly bring them out?
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[SPEAKER_31]: Well, you don't have to track them down.
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[SPEAKER_31]: You don't try to get yourself scammed, too.
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[SPEAKER_30]: Right.
42:43
[SPEAKER_30]: Well, that's secondary.
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[SPEAKER_30]: First, you have to contact FTC.
42:46
[SPEAKER_30]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_30]: You have to file a police report.
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[SPEAKER_30]: You have to pull your bank from the department.
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[SPEAKER_30]: Right for the victim have to you have to follow the procedure.
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[SPEAKER_30]: Then again, you do the public submission You've all given us like this is what happened to me.
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[SPEAKER_30]: This is fake PayPal then more whatever whatever it was Then we're gonna call and we just gonna do exactly what happened before we're gonna pretend to be victims And we're gonna learn what happened and they want to move your money, right?
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[SPEAKER_30]: Somebody have to pick up your money usually
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[SPEAKER_30]: The export originates from India in their mafia works really good with Asian mafia here in San Francisco in Bay Area.
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[SPEAKER_30]: So, scammers are internationally, but somebody have to come to your house to your grandmother house and move that half a million hundred thousand fifty thousand doesn't matter, right?
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[SPEAKER_30]: So, they will send thugs to your door who are going to say, hey, I'm from the government, federal reserve, we need to secure your money and mafia will take money from your family and going to disappear.
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[SPEAKER_30]: And when did you have you been able to stop this?
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[SPEAKER_30]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_30]: We see it in the bushes with the cameras.
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[SPEAKER_29]: That's actually a couple of the episodes are about this scam specifically.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And we were able to collaborate with Homeland Security, FBI, and some law enforcement on Arkansas and actually stage things with this exact thing.
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[SPEAKER_29]: So we pretend to be old.
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[SPEAKER_29]: I put on a mask.
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[SPEAKER_29]: I do a pretty good old man voice.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And I get them to come to my house and take up the money, but instead of getting the money, they get handcuffs.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Figuring to the reason.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Here's an example of the intersection starting to stop a scam mid-scam.
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[SPEAKER_29]: So we're looking for a scammer.
44:18
[SPEAKER_29]: The guy that we're going after, he instructed our victim to send money to you.
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[SPEAKER_29]: We'd like to figure out kind of what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_29]: So how do you find that?
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[SPEAKER_29]: Did I respond to it?
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[SPEAKER_29]: You kept the money.
44:26
[SPEAKER_29]: Yeah, you got the money.
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[SPEAKER_29]: No one sent it back to me?
44:27
[SPEAKER_29]: You get it, you get it, you get it.
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[SPEAKER_19]: You get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get
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[SPEAKER_29]: So, bring us up today.
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[SPEAKER_29]: Where was that?
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[SPEAKER_29]: That was in Maryland.
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[SPEAKER_29]: Maryland.
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[SPEAKER_29]: We've done so many places since then.
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[SPEAKER_29]: He's a cashmiel, you know, allegedly.
44:48
[SPEAKER_29]: Cashmiel, we were instructed by a Nigerian scammer who, the scammer that was scamming and from that episode, was instructing me as who I was playing her grandson, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_29]: He believed that was her grandson.
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[SPEAKER_29]: It was helping him move her money.
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[SPEAKER_29]: He was instructing me to send it to people around the country and he was one of them.
45:04
[SPEAKER_31]: and you had to go there and then with the cops aware of this at the time when you're doing this off of the time.
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[SPEAKER_31]: I looked at some of that video.
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[SPEAKER_31]: I'm thinking this guy might have a gun.
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[SPEAKER_30]: Yeah, it's absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_31]: So do you call the cops ahead of time?
45:18
[SPEAKER_30]: Not really like at this time again for the show like we blasted and we have a bigger budget than YouTube.
45:23
[SPEAKER_30]: We have security.
45:24
[SPEAKER_30]: Oh, you have your own.
45:25
[SPEAKER_30]: Yeah, yep.
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[SPEAKER_30]: We will have security who will come with us.
45:27
[SPEAKER_30]: You're a big guy.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Yeah, no one's messing with you.
45:30
[SPEAKER_30]: Yeah, well, I got six.
45:31
[SPEAKER_30]: They'll try, yeah, six, five, yeah, they will try.
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[SPEAKER_30]: You would not believe, like, again, when it comes to when you have a gun, it doesn't matter how big you are, right?
45:38
[SPEAKER_30]: You get shot, you get shot.
45:40
[SPEAKER_30]: So we still went and we did polys report, we still notified police and everything, but we went only with our security and we asked questions.
45:48
[SPEAKER_30]: And he was, he knew what happened, we were like,
45:52
[SPEAKER_30]: Somebody's saying you money and you keep that money.
45:54
[SPEAKER_30]: You didn't return it like what's wrong with you?
45:56
[SPEAKER_30]: And he was like, yeah, well, I was like, how did you find this guy?
45:59
[SPEAKER_30]: He was like, I was in the grocery store.
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[SPEAKER_30]: He came to me and he said, can I use the event more, whatever, paypal, which isn't true.
46:05
[SPEAKER_30]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_31]: which it's a total scam, we sent him the money.
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[SPEAKER_31]: He's tell me he got arrested, not yet, not yet, but still really on it.
46:12
[SPEAKER_29]: That's the problem.
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[SPEAKER_29]: It's this is a problem we've had over and over and over again, long before we had any law enforcement collaboration.
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[SPEAKER_29]: When we're coming in and somebody we know is involved, the law enforcement, I love them to death, but they take forever.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And so if it's a case like an Arkansas, where we can have a preset up operation, and we can show the proof of our scam bait, and they come to us, they can get arrested on the spot.
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[SPEAKER_29]: But when we're coming into a scam that's already happening and we're identifying individuals through our methods, police usually can't or want to show up and arrest them.
46:40
[SPEAKER_29]: They have to take the chain of custody of everything we've collected.
46:43
[SPEAKER_29]: They have to investigate it.
46:44
[SPEAKER_29]: They get more people involved.
46:45
[SPEAKER_29]: It's months down the line.
46:46
[SPEAKER_29]: The big federal indictment that just came out a couple months ago from San Diego was from videos we did in 2020.
46:53
[SPEAKER_29]: So we confronted these guys in 2020.
46:55
[SPEAKER_29]: We're confronting like three different ones from the same kind of mafia group that we came to learn.
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[SPEAKER_29]: They FBI are no homeland approached us in 2021 or two.
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[SPEAKER_29]: We testified in 23.
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[SPEAKER_29]: And then we finally learned that they were arrested just a couple of months ago.
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[SPEAKER_24]: Hey Patricia, are you doing okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm doing okay, yeah, I really, you know, I mean you witnessed this so many times, but when it's such a shock and it happens to me, you know, you have to have some reflective glance after words.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so obviously that's what you go through now.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But on the police officer, you know, follow through with, you know, is additional information.
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[SPEAKER_31]: you know I'm thank God you guys I mean I don't know what brought you to that spot at the time that was from the YouTube channel of trilogy right trilogy trilogy media trilogy media it's that is one of the reasons in Fox News has a brand new series called scam getting even Ashton Bingham and Art Kuhlaker here guys what was that listening to art
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[SPEAKER_30]: It's actually one of the happy ending story that we ever came across as of today.
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[SPEAKER_30]: Again, it's complicated, but basically, it makes a reshort.
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[SPEAKER_30]: We will send the baiting package that is fake, right?
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[SPEAKER_30]: And we're gonna wait until Keshe will gonna show up and pick up the package, allegedly allegedly stolen money.
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[SPEAKER_30]: When we showed up, it was our package that arrived, empty box, and it was,
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[SPEAKER_30]: package on a purge with $25,000 with a real victim from Amazon, right?
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[SPEAKER_30]: I believe Amazon or PayPal, Amazon or PayPal.
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[SPEAKER_30]: So, and it was returning address.
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[SPEAKER_30]: So, we immediately Google the address, the cell phone number, so we'll call Patrecia and we'll like Patrecia.
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[SPEAKER_30]: Did you talk to Amazon PayPal recently?
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[SPEAKER_30]: She was like, no, I was like Patrecia.
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[SPEAKER_30]: There is money right now, seeding, and we see it.
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[SPEAKER_30]: And then we can hear that that he's scammer talking to Patricia, saying do not talk to them.
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[SPEAKER_30]: And got, so she got brainwashed, but finally she came to realizing that she just sent $25,000 to pay for whatever she want to pay, and we literally holding her package in our hands.
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[SPEAKER_30]: We call the cops and they came and seized the money and got a back tour.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Well, and who was the first, we were hearing the cops call and inquire for you.
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[SPEAKER_29]: Yeah, so that was after the interaction.
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[SPEAKER_29]: He wanted, we had Google, like, camera glasses and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_29]: We have a hidden camera.
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[SPEAKER_29]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_29]: Yeah, well, I mean, they're not, they're not Google brand, but we have actually the really old, they're not working too well in the new ones.
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[SPEAKER_29]: But we record everything obviously, so we have, you know, people that are walking around in the, the whole interaction.
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[SPEAKER_29]: He wanted the raw footage of that to be able to put in his report, which we always provided.
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[SPEAKER_30]: We showed up two minutes before thugs showed up to pick up that money that's stolen money from elderly people.
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[SPEAKER_30]: And we saw that cashmills in the corner, show up with the packages.
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[SPEAKER_30]: They, you know, collect 10, 20 packages per day.
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[SPEAKER_31]: How did you know to show up there?
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[SPEAKER_29]: Throughout the scam bait, when we were pretending to be victims, and we were colliding on this one, they gave us instructions on where the victim was supposed to send the money.
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[SPEAKER_29]: In this case, it was to an address, came to find out that address was vacant.
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[SPEAKER_29]: So that they do that sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_29]: Sometimes the cash meal lives there, sometimes it's vacant, packages get dropped off, and then somebody will come and just scoop it up.
55:27
[SPEAKER_29]: And they know what they go on, ziller, whatever they'll find vacant residences, and they'll use them.
55:31
[SPEAKER_29]: So in this case, lots of scammers were sending it to this door.
55:35
[SPEAKER_29]: And ours just happened to arrive at the exact same moment as Patricia's actual money.
55:38
[SPEAKER_29]: And you could spot it from a mile away, because they tell you to wrap it in a bunch of duct tape.
55:42
[SPEAKER_29]: So we saw it.
55:42
[SPEAKER_29]: We're like, that's a scam.
55:43
[SPEAKER_29]: That's a scam package.
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[SPEAKER_29]: I 100% would call the cops in.
55:45
[SPEAKER_31]: Could I throw some scams at you and you tell me how it goes down?
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[SPEAKER_31]: Dead collection scams.
55:50
[SPEAKER_31]: Give me an idea.
55:51
[SPEAKER_31]: Like, how would I... Well, do I get hit by an email?
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[SPEAKER_31]: Is it a phone call?
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[SPEAKER_31]: all of the above for those in the election or you're dead on your credit card and do they is that would hit home?
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[SPEAKER_29]: They know more than you'll want them to know, especially with public databases, and if they can get a hold of your email or you've got forbid your social security number, they can run credit checks.
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[SPEAKER_29]: You know, that's what I think, honestly, I think everybody should have their credit locked unless you're gonna use it.
56:15
[SPEAKER_29]: But yeah, they'll use that against you, they'll advance fee scam, same thing.
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[SPEAKER_29]: They'll get you to try to pay something up front and hopes of helping you get out of a bad situation and then just disappear.
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[SPEAKER_31]: virtual kidnapping, you mean I have your son, I have your daughter, I need a scam.
56:30
[SPEAKER_31]: It's actually one of those scannays, I can do the voice.
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[SPEAKER_30]: Yeah, yeah, that's why we literally just have this conversation.
56:36
[SPEAKER_29]: What happens to you?
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[SPEAKER_29]: I'm trying to get my grandma with that one.
56:38
[SPEAKER_29]: Yeah, they impersonated my voice.
56:40
[SPEAKER_29]: They called my grandma as this number of years back, but they said they my grandma would call me AJ.
56:45
[SPEAKER_29]: They say, hey, grandma is AJ.
56:46
[SPEAKER_29]: I'm in Mexico, I just got arrested for DUI and he bail money right now.
56:50
[SPEAKER_29]: and she didn't know what to do.
56:51
[SPEAKER_29]: Thankfully, she called my aunt, who verified it with me that that wasn't true.
56:54
[SPEAKER_29]: But that fortunately allows the people to do fall for it.
56:57
[SPEAKER_29]: And with AI, they can totally agree with you.
56:59
[SPEAKER_30]: Right now, it's absolutely, this is catastrophe.
57:02
[SPEAKER_30]: But would you recommend if that happens to somebody?
57:04
[SPEAKER_30]: Well, first of all, you need to set up a password between set up a password.
57:08
[SPEAKER_30]: Password.
57:08
[SPEAKER_30]: Right, only, like, you're, you'll, you'll have kids, right?
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[SPEAKER_30]: So something only your kids know, something between you and kids.
57:14
[SPEAKER_30]: So if that, if you call somebody in person as you, and they're gonna call your kids and ask for something,
57:20
[SPEAKER_30]: You can throw that question.
57:21
[SPEAKER_30]: Hey, Dad, what these and these.
57:23
[SPEAKER_30]: So it has to be only between family members.
57:25
[SPEAKER_31]: All right.
57:26
[SPEAKER_31]: So check out their series.
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[SPEAKER_31]: It's now on Fox Nation.
57:28
[SPEAKER_31]: It is called scammed getting even.
57:31
[SPEAKER_31]: And that's what they try to do for everybody if they can get to you in time.
57:35
[SPEAKER_31]: Ashton Bingham, Archie, we'll get to win win.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Great series.
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[SPEAKER_31]: Great TV and you're helping people.
57:40
[SPEAKER_31]: Thank you, Ryan.
57:40
[SPEAKER_29]: Thank you so much.
57:41
[SPEAKER_31]: I appreciate that.
57:42
[SPEAKER_31]: Ryan, kill me, Joe.
57:42
[SPEAKER_31]: Keep it here.
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