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Dirty Rush: Here’s What We Want You to Know Before Rush Begins… · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sororiti Life with
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  Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice, Davey Kent and Jennifer Fessler.
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  Speaker 2: This is Dirty Rush, and this is a special.
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  Speaker 3: Episode that's producers only, so we're really taking you behind
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  Speaker 3: the scenes, behind the scenes, behind the scenes where the
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  Speaker 3: producers are coming on because people are about to go
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  Speaker 3: through rush again. It seems like we just started the
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  Speaker 3: whole rush process and now it's time.
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  Speaker 2: For winter rush. Is that what you guys would call it? Winter?
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  Speaker 3: Winter rush? Second semester rush, Spring rush is.
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  Speaker 2: Coming, spring rush, spring rush.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had spring rush, but I think some people,
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  Speaker 3: some schools do do it at the beginning of the
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  Speaker 3: next quarter.
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  Speaker 2: People are still getting cobs.
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  Speaker 1: So what we wanted to.
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  Speaker 2: Do is get all the producers on to talk about
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  Speaker 2: the things.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, the producers of the show, we're all in the
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  Speaker 3: Greek system, so we want to talk about things we
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  Speaker 3: wish we.
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  Speaker 2: Knew before Rush started. And we have one of our.
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  Speaker 3: Other iHeart producers who actually was not in the Greek
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  Speaker 3: system to ask the questions that she would want to
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  Speaker 3: know before going through rush. So why don't we start
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  Speaker 3: just one or two tidbits from everybody about something you
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  Speaker 3: wish you knew before you went through Rush. So I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to reveal any of our producers' names because
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  Speaker 3: the thing about this show that's different from others is
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  Speaker 3: that we do feel comfortable to really reveal things and
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  Speaker 3: to be super honest because we don't always say who
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  Speaker 3: we are. So why don't we just go around the
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  Speaker 3: group and say a couple things that you wish you
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  Speaker 3: knew before Rush started. I've been thinking about this a lot,
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  Speaker 3: and for me, I actually think less is more. You
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  Speaker 3: don't want to know too much, or I think you
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  Speaker 3: would really get in your head about it. I think
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  Speaker 3: the main thing that I would say is best advice
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  Speaker 3: I could give. Know as many people as you can
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  Speaker 3: that are in the Greek system, which is super hard
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  Speaker 3: for people that are going to schools far away, random
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  Speaker 3: schools or schools where they don't know anybody. But I
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  Speaker 3: think your biggest advantage is having people that you know
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  Speaker 3: that are in the sororities already. Two is my other advice,
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  Speaker 3: and I know this sounds, I don't know, very trite
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  Speaker 3: or very obvious. Be nice, Be nice, be nice to everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Be nice, and even once you get into the sorority.
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  Speaker 3: Be nice to everybody else. Talking to a friend last
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  Speaker 3: night who many many years later, and we'll do this
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  Speaker 3: on a different episode.
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  Speaker 4: It's just be nice.
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  Speaker 2: Be nice, even to the.
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  Speaker 3: Mean girl, be nice to the scary senior, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: Just be nice. So that's my best advice. And now
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  Speaker 2: over to you guys.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I rush a really long time ago, but
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  Speaker 5: I would say not as.
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  Speaker 2: Long as you wait. How many years ago? Twenty?
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  Speaker 3: I'm thirty, I'm thirty years ago? Are you twenty?
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  Speaker 6: I'm not quite twenty? Oh my gosh, how long ago
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  Speaker 6: was it?
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  Speaker 5: I can't even remember twenty two thousand and nine, whenever
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  Speaker 5: that was.
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  Speaker 7: We're coming up on twenty.
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  Speaker 6: I guess No.
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  Speaker 5: Some things I wish I would have known and done
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  Speaker 5: before RUSH is one kind of research that houses and.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit of their history and.
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  Speaker 6: Also just kind of what to expect during Rush.
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  Speaker 5: I went in very blind and was very overwhelmed by
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  Speaker 5: so much of the chanting and singing and that sort
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  Speaker 5: of thing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh like it kind of like it kind of creeped
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  Speaker 3: you out a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: A little bit.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I very much so.
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  Speaker 5: Was encouraged to rush for my sister, who was in
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  Speaker 5: a sorority. However, I didn't know a lot of things
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  Speaker 5: about sororities. It was kind of like, Okay, this is
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  Speaker 5: a fun way to meet some friends, So if that's you,
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  Speaker 5: I would just suggest maybe doing a little little research
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  Speaker 5: into what to expect during rush and a little bit
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  Speaker 5: about the houses.
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  Speaker 6: The other thing I wish.
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  Speaker 5: I did differently during Rush was I did not base
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  Speaker 5: the house off one single person I talked to later
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  Speaker 5: on after I joined my house.
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  Speaker 6: I'm very happy with the house I joined.
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  Speaker 5: However, so many of my friends ended up being in
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  Speaker 5: the first house I dropped, and it was because I
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  Speaker 5: was so overwhelmed by the personality of the first person
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  Speaker 5: I spoke.
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  Speaker 6: She was just very not me.
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  Speaker 5: She was like a very high pitched voice, very energetic,
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  Speaker 5: and a lot of the girls are right, this is
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  Speaker 5: Rush weeks, so that happens a lot, but this girl
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  Speaker 5: just completely turned me off, and I dropped the house
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  Speaker 5: first day, and then later on in the to the semester,
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  Speaker 5: most of my friends ended up being from that.
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  Speaker 6: House, which is oh wow. So I would just say,
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  Speaker 6: don't judge off the first person.
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  Speaker 3: I thought of a good analogy when you were talking
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  Speaker 3: about how overwhelming it is the best example I can
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  Speaker 3: give is you're in a restaurant and it's when everyone
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  Speaker 3: comes out with the cake and sings happy birthday to you.
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  Speaker 3: That is sort of the feeling of a lot of
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  Speaker 3: rush where you're like, oh my god, I have to
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  Speaker 3: just smile here they're like singing at me, or they're
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  Speaker 3: you know, so excited and you're like ugh. So you
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  Speaker 3: kind of do have to prepare yourself for sort of
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  Speaker 3: like a lot of a happy birthday song moment.
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  Speaker 7: Sorry, can I jump in here, the resident non sorority person.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll call you. We'll call you, Professor H.
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  Speaker 7: Professor H. I have a question about singing. So you
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  Speaker 7: said that there's a lot of songs. You guys, once
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  Speaker 7: you get in dy'll sit around and have music practice.
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  Speaker 7: Do you get the song sent to? How do you
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  Speaker 7: learn the songs once you join?
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  Speaker 5: There is like a whole rush prep going into it
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  Speaker 5: when you are in the house that you will learn
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  Speaker 5: those songs. You will clap at the right time you
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  Speaker 5: need to clap.
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  Speaker 6: You will. It's a it's a process. It's like a
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you guys should do a whole episode.
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  Speaker 3: We should do a whole episode just on the songs
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  Speaker 3: because so Hannah and I were in the same sorority
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  Speaker 3: at different schools, so we also have the same songs.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know if that trips out, Professor h Well, I.
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  Speaker 7: Kind of figured that every house probably has their own songs.
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  Speaker 7: But I also want to know, like how secretive are
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  Speaker 7: these songs? Are we talking? It's like those secret handshakes
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  Speaker 7: you guys talk about, where like other people can't hear
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  Speaker 7: you practicing the lyrics to these songs. I guess my
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  Speaker 7: other thing is I went to cheer tryouts right in
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  Speaker 7: high school. I'm assuming this is maybe a little bit
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  Speaker 7: kind of similar where I had to go through a
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  Speaker 7: process for ten days and I had to learn cheers
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  Speaker 7: and I had to learn dance routines. But then I
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  Speaker 7: had to audition with those Yeah, at a point where
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  Speaker 7: you have to sing for somebody to show and prove
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  Speaker 7: that you know these no, not really okay shaking their
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  Speaker 7: head no.
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  Speaker 1: To that question.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Only I think if you want to be like
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  Speaker 2: a if you want to be like.
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  Speaker 3: A soloist like I was Barry Manilow on the Kappa
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  Speaker 3: Cabana Day, and so I think I had to it.
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  Speaker 7: Well, this isn't like American idol or something like an audition.
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  Speaker 2: So I had to sing.
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  Speaker 3: We had a copa cabana version, but it was called
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  Speaker 3: Kappa Kappa Gamma, and so I had to sing. So
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  Speaker 3: I think somebody must have wanted to make sure I
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  Speaker 3: could sing. This sounds like a nightmare. Sorry, really embarrassing.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not like Ariana Grande or anything. I think you
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  Speaker 3: can you can get by with just like a mediocre voice,
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  Speaker 3: even to do a solo. But like anyway, I want
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  Speaker 3: to go to everybody else for the things that they
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  Speaker 3: wish they knew. But the singing is a whole episode.
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  Speaker 3: Please make note we should do a whole episode because
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  Speaker 3: there's songs you have to sing on meeting night to
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  Speaker 3: like get in the door. But anyway, we'll talk about
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  Speaker 3: that later.
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  Speaker 8: So I would say one thing that I wouldn't necess
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  Speaker 8: sssarily recommend doing is you know, you go into college.
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  Speaker 8: I had a lot of my high school friends that
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  Speaker 8: went to the same college as me, and we rushed
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  Speaker 8: all at the same time, and I feel like we
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  Speaker 8: kind of influenced each other, like ooh, I really like
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  Speaker 8: that house, and I like that house, but I don't
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  Speaker 8: like this one as much. And I feel like you
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  Speaker 8: really need to be like individual in the sense where
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  Speaker 8: it's like, Okay, my friend might not like that house,
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  Speaker 8: but we don't have to be in the same house.
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  Speaker 8: Like we can still be friends and be in separate sororities.
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  Speaker 8: So it's easy to kind of get caught up and like, ooh,
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  Speaker 8: this is what my friend likes, and so on and
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  Speaker 8: so forth.
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  Speaker 3: I have a weird question on that, like to pretend
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  Speaker 3: it was like percentages or like you know, a pie,
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  Speaker 3: how many of your friends were in your sorority versus
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  Speaker 3: other sororities. I think I'm like seventy five percent in mine,
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  Speaker 3: twenty five percent others, But you guys weigh in.
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  Speaker 1: I would say the same.
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  Speaker 8: I would honestly even say my school was a little
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  Speaker 8: bit smaller, so we had like I want to say,
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  Speaker 8: maybe like four five sororities to choose from, So I'd say, yeah,
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  Speaker 8: mine was like eighty twenty and it ended up working out,
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  Speaker 8: like totally don't regret it at all, But I wonder
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  Speaker 8: if my friends and I stayed a little separate, if
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  Speaker 8: we maybe would have chosen like different houses from each other.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, oh interesting, Yeah, so you kind of ended up
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  Speaker 3: going to the same house because you did influence each other.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 8: And I feel like too, like I rushed probably like
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  Speaker 8: I think nine years ago, eight or nine years ago,
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  Speaker 8: so I like I remember we would like stalk their
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  Speaker 8: instagrams and be like, ooh, like this house looks so
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  Speaker 8: cool and the girls look so fun and like blah
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  Speaker 8: blah blah. So we definitely did a lot of Instagram
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  Speaker 8: research beforehand that I think also, like going into it,
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  Speaker 8: we kind of knew which houses we thought were cool.
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  Speaker 4: And that's why.
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  Speaker 1: I think kind of along the same lines of cutting
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  Speaker 1: out the noise beforehand, whether it's your friends, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: social media, it is such an individual experience, and I
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  Speaker 1: think it's really important to just make sure that a
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  Speaker 1: you're listening to your intuition versus other people's opinions, or
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  Speaker 1: what house is a top house and what house is
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  Speaker 1: not considered as quote unquote cool, and kind of tuning
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  Speaker 1: out a lot of that noise because it can impact
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  Speaker 1: your decision so much what you think others will think
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  Speaker 1: is cool, but really it's all about you and ending
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  Speaker 1: up in the place that's the most aligned. And I
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  Speaker 1: also think that just like going in as your most
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  Speaker 1: authentic self is always, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: going to be the most important thing to do, and
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  Speaker 1: it's easy to lose sight of that when there's so
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  Speaker 1: much comparison going on, or other people in your ear
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  Speaker 1: telling you what where they think you would fit in
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  Speaker 1: or where they're going and why they're doing what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that really just tuning into yourself is
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  Speaker 1: going to be the most important thing to do. Because
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  Speaker 1: I rushed twice. The first time I rushed, it did
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  Speaker 1: not go very well, and when I look back on
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  Speaker 1: that time, it was there were a lot of components
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  Speaker 1: that went into it, but I think a huge part
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  Speaker 1: of it is I felt like I had to be
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  Speaker 1: acting a certain way or hitting certain marks in my conversation,
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  Speaker 1: and I was just trying to control the narrative too
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  Speaker 1: much rather than letting the process happen. And when I
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  Speaker 1: went into rush the second time, it went very well
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  Speaker 1: for me, and I ended up in the house that
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  Speaker 1: was most aligned for me because I was just simply
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  Speaker 1: being myself. So I think kind of getting out of
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  Speaker 1: your head in any preconceived notions, like leaving them at
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  Speaker 1: the door, is really important.
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  Speaker 7: That was kind of one of my questions. I wanted
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  Speaker 7: to ask about the ability to rush twice. So you're
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  Speaker 7: saying you can do that. Are there any parameters that
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  Speaker 7: are put on the second time, Like you can't go
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  Speaker 7: back to certain houses in rush again, Like what happens
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  Speaker 7: when you go up that can.
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  Speaker 2: Tame pledge a house? Tell me my good, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: If you pledge a house and you sign the card
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  Speaker 3: and then you decide you don't like it, I think
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  Speaker 3: you can't rush again for a year or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: If you get initiated, you can never rush a different house.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's correct. So if I were to have taken
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  Speaker 1: a bid from a house, but it gets a few
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  Speaker 1: it takes a few months to get initiated, and I
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  Speaker 1: took that bid, and then I was like, uh, never mind.
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  Speaker 1: Then I could go through rush again, but I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: take a bid from that house again.
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  Speaker 2: Is that true?
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  Speaker 3: You can't take a bid from the same house twice.
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  Speaker 3: I think I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you can correct me if I'm wrong
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  Speaker 1: to anybody else, But at least.
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  Speaker 7: I think that was allowed.
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  Speaker 3: I think if you go through rush, you get a
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  Speaker 3: bid and you decide to drop out or not accept
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  Speaker 3: the bid, I think you can't go through RUSH for
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  Speaker 3: a year, like you couldn't get a COB from another house.
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  Speaker 2: But now I'm I'm questioning myself. But yeah, I think if.
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  Speaker 3: You go to preference, you fill it out, you're agreeing
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  Speaker 3: that either of those houses or three whatever your school does,
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  Speaker 3: gives you a bid, that you're going to take it.
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  Speaker 7: I think, now, are there exceptions if like a family
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  Speaker 7: emergency happens which causes you to drop out of school
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  Speaker 7: and then you come back, do you get any sort
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  Speaker 7: of leniency?
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  Speaker 3: I think if you were a pledge, say DG gives
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  Speaker 3: you a bid and then there was some sort of
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  Speaker 3: an emergency, you can just come back to DG.
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  Speaker 2: You couldn't just go RUSH again. You would just be
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  Speaker 2: a DG. DG would work it out with you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right, because you've already accepted the
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  Speaker 1: bid to that house, so you ideally would have the
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  Speaker 1: intention of going through initiation with them. So I think
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  Speaker 1: you just work it out with them to where you
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  Speaker 1: could be initiated later or something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just say, yeah, I don't really know anybody
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  Speaker 3: that like accepted a bid, dropped out and then went
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  Speaker 3: through RUSS again.
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  Speaker 2: That feels kind of random. I don't know if people
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  Speaker 2: did that.
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  Speaker 1: I know a few people who did that because they
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  Speaker 1: put two people down for pref and then they got
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  Speaker 1: the house that they didn't want it and they said,
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  Speaker 1: let me try it out, and then after a month
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  Speaker 1: initiation was coming up, they were like, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: this is a line. So they chose to leave that
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  Speaker 1: house and then rush again the following year.
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  Speaker 3: So kind of I'm just gonna say, and maybe this is.
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  Speaker 2: Something that you would want to know before.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's also whoey, Like every house, for the
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  Speaker 3: most part, is going to have people that you're going
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  Speaker 3: to get along with. You're not going to be best
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  Speaker 3: friends with everybody, So I don't know. I always think
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  Speaker 3: people that think they know or they're like I wanted
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  Speaker 3: a top tier, it's like, I don't even know if
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  Speaker 3: you really is.
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  Speaker 7: This brings me to my next question. When you're talking
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  Speaker 7: about a line with a house, I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 7: assume that you're sitting around and you know, talking about
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  Speaker 7: like I don't know, family backgrounds or religion or something, right,
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  Speaker 7: talking about girls' personalities and like how much they party
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  Speaker 7: versus how much they emphasize on education or am I
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  Speaker 7: being totally off the bat.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you got it, you got it. I think the
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  Speaker 2: other girls can weigh in, but I think you got it.
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  Speaker 5: I will say, going to a university where there is
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  Speaker 5: a strong religious I would say, it's just a strong
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  Speaker 5: religious area. I did not This was not talked about
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  Speaker 5: during Rush. However, things after Rush became very apparent in
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  Speaker 5: a specific house of girls that did not party and
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  Speaker 5: were from the same religious background than other houses, and
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  Speaker 5: they did not make it aware during Rush.
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  Speaker 7: Well, maybe something that those girls wish they'd asked prior
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  Speaker 7: about religion r I well, should be asking about religion
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  Speaker 7: when they're rushing. I think probably.
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  Speaker 6: Depends on the school for sure.
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  Speaker 5: But being at one of those schools, my sister, who
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  Speaker 5: had been through the same sorority system and at that
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  Speaker 5: school before, wouldn't tell me which house it was, as
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  Speaker 5: she wanted me to make up my own choices, and
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  Speaker 5: me coming from not a Mormon background and kind of
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  Speaker 5: really being a partier in college, I guessed wrong.
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  Speaker 6: It was one of my top houses. It was my
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  Speaker 6: one of my prep houses.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, and they really don't want you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I think they frown upon talking about politics
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  Speaker 3: or religion during rush. So It's a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: a confusing situation because you're not supposed to talk about
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  Speaker 3: those things. But then what if that's like a major
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  Speaker 3: part of the house, And then you're like, wait, whoops.
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  Speaker 5: Well right exactly, Like if I would have actually gotten it,
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  Speaker 5: I probably would have had to drop and it wouldn't
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  Speaker 5: have aligned necessarily with what I was looking for my
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  Speaker 5: college career.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: I guess you're not supposed to like also say, like, so,
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: what fraternities do you guys hang out with?
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: But you want to.
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: So, how are you sussing this out just based on
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: like small talk?
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but I knew That's the thing that's so
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: different for some people's experiences versus others because I knew
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: what houses, what fraternities this house.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Hung out with. I knew the girls in the house,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: so I knew a lot. That's why it's harder for
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: me to be like, what did I need to know?
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Like I already knew it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: That's why my advice is to, like, before you go
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: into it, do your research. I mean, there's so much
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: even now that's on social media and TikTok and Instagram
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: that I feel like you can find those answers easier.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Now totally, Like I.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: Was a view beginning of social media, and so that
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: didn't really exist out there unless you knew people in
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: the system.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we didn't even have cell phones, Like, we
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: didn't even have cell phones, so there was no email
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: when I went through Rush, So everything was sort of
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: like word of mouth, like you knew it because you
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: knew it, Like I don't know how to explain it.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: And I think about this all the time, because we
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: also knew where to go at night to meet up
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: with the same friends we had, And I don't know
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: how we knew, but we just knew. So I think
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: that that's the interesting thing is it's just sort of
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: word of mouth vibe.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: If one person knows, twenty people know, I don't know.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Also, for me, it was a lot about the types
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: of conversations I was having because there were some girls
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: where I felt like it kind of is like that
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: vibe of oh, you just click immediately and you're able
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: to have a less surface level conversation, whereas some houses
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I went in and I just felt like everybody was
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: really skimming the surface. And so what I really look
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: for is like people who asked great questions and seem
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: genuinely interested, because I mean, it's hard to do when
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: you're recruiting people to be on all the time, and
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: like you could tell what houses. I feel like we're
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: more intentional in picking their girls by like the caliber
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: of questions that they asked, I guess, and I liked
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: getting in those deeper conversations with people, so I was like,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: this is what makes me feel at home and what
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: drew me to the sorority that I ended up.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of an interesting thing because my niece
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: who's in a sorority, her best friend in the sorty
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: is like the greatest, cutest, most fun girl you could
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: ever imagine, but she sort of has This is what
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I've heard from my niece, so I'd have to ask her.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: But she gets a little bit socially anxious. So even
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: though she is probably one.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Of the coolest girls in the whole house.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: She can't be in the front at rush because she
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: gets too anxious and can't like talk to the new
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: people coming in. So it's kind of your personality also
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: determines like if you're going to be good at we
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: called them, like, you know, being the rusher to the rushies.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I think you guys call it, like, what do you
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: guys call it?
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: We called it the same thing.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so too.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: The person trying to recruit or whatever, we just call
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: it the rusher and the rush sheet. You guys call
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: it like new members or potential new members.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, the person is a P and M of potential.
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, now that's so true though with the personality thing,
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: like you guys know me, I'm very.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Like hi, and so I feel like they put.
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: Me with people they were like, ooh, we like we
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: want this girl, and we like, you know, someone with
• 20:37
  Speaker 8: a big personality to kind of like crack their shell
• 20:40
  Speaker 8: and make sure like, okay, this is someone that could
• 20:42
  Speaker 8: be in the storty. Yeah, the softer spoken people, it
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: was totally like a different vibe and whoever they were
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: talking to, I'm sure it was like just a different
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: experience overall.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: So the hardest part is if you have just two
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: very very quiet people sort of introverted, because then two
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: introverted people are sort of sitting there feeling awkward, whereas
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: being introverted it's totally fine, but it's just you don't
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: want to make it awkward. So it's almost like you
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: kind of need a strong person to ask the introverted
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: people just some questions.
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's so true because if yeah, I've heard kind
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: of horror stories of two people that just don't really
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: know what to say, and then it's awkward silence and
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: it's kind of like so like tell me about your family,
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: Like it's like it gets weird. So yeah, that's a
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: huge part of it for sure.
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: So one thing I'm fascinated by, obviously that is taking
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: off on TikTok when it comes to rush, is these
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: over the top elaborate dancing. Oh yeah, means that people
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: are doing with their houses. So one I want to know, like,
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: when you're rushing, are they asking you if you can dance?
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: If you like have rhythm when you get in?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Do you have to go to dance practice?
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: Like how many days a week? Like how many girls
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: have to be apport of this? What if you start
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: doing the stunts and somebody falls and gets injured? I
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: don't know, it just seems like a lot, Like so
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: tell me about the dance aspect and if you're asking
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: questions about the dancing.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: During rush, I think for us it was more so
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: some people are just like that and they want to
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: do it. Some people, there's always a social media manager
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: or whatever who's in charge of putting.
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: The I'm sorry, there's a social media manager for that.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Like a position within the house.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: A position within the house isn't like a hired person
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: that does this profession.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: It's one of the girls in the house, and they'll
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: get elected to be in charge of the Instagram and
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the TikTok or whatever. So there are always the people
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: who are kind of curating however that's going to look
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: and executing their vision throughout rush. So a lot of
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: times they'll pull random people for pictures and stuff. But
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: for videos like that, I feel like there was always
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: girls who did cheer in high school or girls who
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: were on the dance team at college that would just
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: kind of all into or automatically and were into that
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: sort of thing. So they wanted to be at the front.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: They wanted to be getting a group together and practicing
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the dances, and so at least in our case, there
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: were always people who wanted to do it, So it
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't like we were pulling teeth and having dance practice.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: It just kind of happened more naturally same we didn't.
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: TikTok wasn't a thing yet, So it was all Instagram
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: when I was doing it, and it was definitely like
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: the cheerleaders or you know, girls like that or girls
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: that wanted to dance that would be doing their thing.
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: Definitely not like a requirement though, And yeah, no practices
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: for us either.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: So in the nineties we didn't do this big dancing things.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: We had something called porch songs. So what would happen is,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: forget if it was every.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Day or part of rush.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: The rushies would come up and the girls would come
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: out sort of onto the porch and sing the song.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: So there might be like rhythmic clapping or sort of
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: like slight dance moves, but nothing like you see now,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: more like.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Hands up, hands down, hands up, hands down, Kappa Kapa
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: But then they the university, I think thought decided that
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: that was a bit disruptive. All the singing all the time,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: and you would have sort of sing offs kind of
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: pitch perfect style.
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: I was just gonna say, like pitch perfect.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like across the streets. So you'd be like, Kapa,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: we are Kappa, and they'd be like we are pi
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Fi pie Fi pi Fy, and then you kind of
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: like have them at each other, and then I think
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: that they took it away because it was like disruptive
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: to the neighborhood sort of a vibe. So then you
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: couldn't sing until everybody was in the house and the
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: door completely closed.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Then you were allowed to sing. But we didn't have
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: these like dance routines.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: The only thing we did have is this elaborate skit day.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: So there was this skit Day and like the entire
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: house was transformed into like a Broadway show basically with
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: you know, the walls and the this and the that
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: and all these things.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: And that was the Barry Manilow Day. So that was
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: when we.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Had like a full production, a full skit, and like
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: people sat kind of like an audience, they would be
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: watching this sort of show.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I thought it was amazing when I went through.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: RASH, I was like, this is the most awesome thing
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I've ever seen, because I just felt like I went
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: to like show after show after show.
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: I think my mind is so blown. I didn't realize
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: how much theatrics went in being in a sorority. I'm
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: wondering why you guys don't target theater meters.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I feel like they don't want to be in a sorority, but.
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: Maybe they don't know that there is so much singing
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: and acting and dancing they're missing out on this.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Possibly, I do feel like theater kids like tend to
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: end up having like their own you know, like group
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: I guess sorority fraternity together as like there.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's true. I do think.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: I don't know why I can't fully remember the skit dape,
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: but mine was very similar to to hers that it
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: we we didn't have the group dances, but also like
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: and honestly, the social media manager, that's a new role
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: that did nicest either for us.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we we obviously didn't have that either, like, but
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: it was pretty elaborate, Like we turned the phone booth,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: yes we had a phone with into what looked like
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: an aquarium, and then there was a girl who was
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: like a full mermaid in the phone booth, making it
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: look like she was swimming. And then there was like
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: all this singing and dancing, and then we did have
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: do you know that song word up by Cameo?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Do you guys remember that word up? Mm hmmm, oh,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: ladies around the world. But we did do this thing.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm totally telling a secret now where every pledge
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: class made up an eight count, and then each year
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: the dance would get longer and longer because the eight
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: count would just go on and on and on and on.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I have no memory of too much of the dance.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I just know that it was word up by cameo.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: But that was kind of cool. So there definitely was
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: like dancing.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: There's dancing, and then those girls that like myself, who
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: are not great dancers, we just got put from the back.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: It's like you've got alumni there that's like choreographing things,
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: and they're like you like kinda take the back, you know.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: So the ones who are meant to shine are in
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: the front with the good voices and the good dance moves.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: She was talking about some like riff off sing off
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: thing that was happening back in her day. Are they
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: doing dance offs now? With these elaborate dancing.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Things that they're doing. I kind of feel like social
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: media though in a way, during Rush is like one
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: big dance off. It's very competitive.
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: That's what it looks like as an outsider for sure.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: For some reason that has just become what signifies the
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: coolest house is if you can make a cool TikTok.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but it feels like one big dance off.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: It feels very competitive to have the best choreographed thing.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: But it's weird because that's not in person, it's just online.
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: Okay, So that answers my question. Then when sororities pass
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: each other in the streets, they're not having a dance off. Okay, yeah,
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: good to know.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Do they can do those dances?
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Do the sororities do those dances at all during rush
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: or is it just like on Instagram and TikTok It's
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: not like actually even a part of rush, not really.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's TikTok. And then when you're doing the
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: songs out the door and coppying and bouncing and whatever,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: but it's not a real dance. I don't think they're
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: performing dancing. So they don't ever.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Do that whole like dance shenanigans during rush.
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: And they don't reform these dances for frat houses. No, no, no,
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I'm asking there was only there was a little singing.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: That could happen like during a pinning or something, but
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: like otherwise, you don't really do any of that for
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: the fraternities.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: We had one thing at our school. It was a
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: big fraternity event and it's like a big dance off
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: and every solreaty has a portion of their girls choreograph
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: this dance for weeks and then they go into the
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: main courtyard area on campus and everybody performs in it's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: a competition for like a frat event, it's a fundraising thing,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: but other than that, there's no performances to the frat boys.
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: I think anybody who wants to rush needs to get
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: a pair of tap shoes or something before they go
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: out and start stomping. They need to learn how to
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: do a little bit of rhythm. It sounds like it
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: list an item.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: Zero rhythm and I survived it. They'll be okay, They'll
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: be okay. It's just fun.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: It is just fun.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Wait, so, Professor h before we go, what other questions
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: would you have about things you would want to know
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: before rush?
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: Gosh, I think before rush, I would want to know
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: do I get fed when I'm going to these houses?
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: Or do I need to eat before I go?
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Definitely need to like slam some sandwiches before because I
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: feel like you almost can go all day without food.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I think one of them you get like a lemonade
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: and maybe a cookie.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying to remember if I like remember like
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: a little break of like food that they would feed
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: all the pan ms in between. But yes, definitely hydrate
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: and eat something before because it is a long day
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: and it's a lot of talking that it can you know,
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: and where it's silly for me to say this, but
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: honestly wear comfortable shoes. I just remember standing all day
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: and just being like trying to find a couch or something.
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: I was like, please lead me to the couch, you
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: know what.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I so funny is like I don't even know that
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: I could do it at my age.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Now I feel like.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Whoa, that was so tiring At fifty, I'm like, I
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: don't know if I could do it like I could
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: when I was eighteen.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: It is really tiring for us. In between rounds, you
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: were required to be in the cafeteria. So we had
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: this giant cafeteria where all the girls were required to
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: be in if you weren't at a house doing.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Wow group round.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: So it was kind of cool because you get food
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: and water and like are reminded to hydrate and ac
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: because where I went to school was very hot, outside
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: when we rushed, which made it all more exhausting. But
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: it's kind of cool because you're a little bit forced
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: to be in this environment where you're making friends throughout
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: rush and not just focused on making friends at the houses.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: You're sitting with the girls in between rounds and getting
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: to know people. So I thought it was a good opportunity.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we were required to take our breaks in
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: the cafeteria and then at the end of the day
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: everybody altogether could go home, but it was no way.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I also thought it was super fun. Like I
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: don't know if I'm like alone in that, but I
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: thought the whole thing was just so fun. I was like,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: this is the greatest.
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: It was so fun and like being able to like
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: dress in the outfits you wanted. You're like, okay, I
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: can wear this, you know, on day one and like
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: stuff like that and be with your friends too.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: It's it's so much fun.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was so fun, and like we
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: talk about this all the time, but my sorority sisters
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: and I talk about all the time, were like, can
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: we go live there again?
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Like together? Now?
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: I know how I would if I was in charge
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: of like sussing people out to be in our house.
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: Like the kinds of questions I would ask, I wouldn't
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: ask just the get to know. Yeah, I'd probably throw
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: in a couple of zingers to do a little test
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: test test, you know, like, hey, we go out and
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: party all night, do you have a fake ID on
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: you like that kind of stuff?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: You know, Oh, that would be very very frowned upon. Okay,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: So I wanted to know.
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: Is there somebody assigned to throw out some of those
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: kind of baited questions in the process to kind of
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: sess out the girls that maybe aren't the right fit
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: for the house.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: It's hard because I think there's a lot of taboos
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: and you're not supposed to talk about the three bees,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: which is booze, boys, and Bible.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: So religionally, we never quite heard it like that. We
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: never like heard it like that, but I think it.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Was just sort of understood.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like eventually we did start talking about like boys.
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: I guess I'm just wondering, like, so, you're you're literally
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  Speaker 7: just going off of a vibe then on if you
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: like a girl versus like getting into that nitty gritty
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: to see if she like, you know, is a party animal,
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: or if she cheats on her boyfriend with their you know,
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: steals guys from her best friends. You know, you don't
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: ask any of those kinds of questions to really like
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: saw somebody out during this process.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: There it is a bit of research done by the
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: houses before Rush even starts about that with people. I'm
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: sure it's much more intense now.
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  Speaker 6: With social media. Before social media, it was kind of
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: word of mouth.
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  Speaker 5: You know, a lot of I would say a lot
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: of kids go to in state schools.
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: Not everybody, but so there would be people be like, oh,
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: she went.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: To my high school or is friends with so and
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: so that I know, and this is something that they
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: told me about this person, and would kind of clock
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: that early and like they're so early.
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: Almost even before rush starts.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: So it was almost like keep an eye out, like
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: she's a little bit of a red flag already, and
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: then like see how the conversations go with them without
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: having to I'm with the other girl who talked about
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: the three bees.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: Ours was the same.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: You couldn't.
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: You weren't supposed to talk about those things.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: So there is a little bit of that done beforehand.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: And then does she give up those vibes, does she.
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: Well to piggyback off of that. So maybe somebody that's
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: not notorious for a bad thing in their past, but
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: maybe notorious for whether they come from a prominent family
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: or they used to date a professional athlete or something
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: like that. Do those kinds of things get researched and
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: get you pushed to the front of the line. Essentially
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: for some schools, if you have a really big let's say.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Well, I definitely think dating a professional athlete when you're
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: eighteen would be a little.
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: Bit I'm just saying, what about these TikTokers that are
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: coming into school with, you know, their freshman year with
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: over a million followers and that kind of notoriety. Is
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: that going to push you to the front of people's
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: lists of you know, houses wanting you.
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: Now, Yeah, I think depending on the house too, like
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: what they prioritize, Like there were houses that were very studious,
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: like that was kind of what they were known for,
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: and then like more like popular houses.
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: So those areas where it's like, oh.
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: We want this girl that has a million followers, where
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: the other ones are like, maybe don't care as much.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I always wonder about the celebrities kids because you always
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: hear about celebrities kids going through rush, and I never
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: know if that's like good bad if people know.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I always think about that.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Another piece of advice to kind of help with this
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: situation that I thought of is, before you go, if
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: you know somebody, an aunt, your mom's best friend, an
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: upper classman, somebody who was in these houses before, get
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: a wreck letter from somebody who is in the house.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: It really helps your chances.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: It puts you probably above some other girls because that
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: does happen where they.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Will look out for you.
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: You will be one of their top girls, and they will.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Assign specific girls to be the ones to talk to you,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: to try and influence you to choose that house.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Essentially, yeah, especially if you know someone in that house,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: like that's still there, still.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: There, but yeah, even alumni polls can go pretty.
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: Far, I'll think.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: So.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I hope this was enlightening.
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: I learned a lot today you guys as a non
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: sorority sister. Thanks for letting me in today.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: More to come.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: I can't wait for the singing episode.
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: Are warming up those vocal.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Cords, get your damp shoes.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Talk to you guys, later Bye bye,