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BABY SHOWER FRIENDS LAUNCH SEARCH FOR MISSING MOM, 28 · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Baby shower friends launch a
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  Speaker 1: frantic search for a missing mom twenty eight.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: A Virginia mom and nurse misses her shift. Calls go
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  Speaker 3: to voicemail. Friends and family are worried. Concern grows for
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  Speaker 3: missing Mamta. Where is Mamta? This woman devoted to her
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  Speaker 3: baby girl.
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  Speaker 1: She's a new mom and an incredible pediatric nurse, puts
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  Speaker 1: herself through school to excel.
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  Speaker 2: She's juggling all the place.
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  Speaker 1: Keeping all the balls in the air, and then suddenly
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't show up for her shift at the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: And it is her friends, her coworkers who become alarmed.
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  Speaker 1: Then her friends from a baby shower band, together with
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  Speaker 1: other friends and even people she's never met, to try
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  Speaker 1: and find Mamta.
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  Speaker 2: Can somebody tell me why it took.
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  Speaker 1: So long from the time she goes missing till the
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  Speaker 1: time flyers are posted digitally and she's actually categorized as
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  Speaker 1: a missing person. We've lost days and days and days,
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  Speaker 1: and this little girl is wondering where is mommy? First
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  Speaker 1: of all, who is this person?
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  Speaker 2: Listen?
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  Speaker 4: Newly weds Narash and Mamta Bod settle into married life
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  Speaker 4: after Bud joins the army and serves two active tours overseas,
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  Speaker 4: reportedly maintaining active secret clearance. Meanwhile, Mamta completes college to
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  Speaker 4: become a pediatric nurse at Prince William Hospital. The couple
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  Speaker 4: welcomes their first baby, a little girl. The two decide
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  Speaker 4: to split the week so when one of them is
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  Speaker 4: at work, the other is home with their new baby girl.
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  Speaker 4: This means while new mom Mamta pulls a pediactory shift
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  Speaker 4: at Prince William Hospital, Naresh is home and likewise, when
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  Speaker 4: he's at General Dynamics working it, Mamta has mommy duty.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me an all star panel to make sense of
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  Speaker 1: what we are learning right now about Mamta's disappearance and
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  Speaker 1: how can we find her? Can we bring her home
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  Speaker 1: alive with a baby girl and a big family waiting
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  Speaker 1: on her? Joining me an investigative reporter from Fox five
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  Speaker 1: Nana Sancho Bonsu. But first I want to go to
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  Speaker 1: a friend, a friend of Manta's Nadia Navarro, friend of Mamta.
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  Speaker 1: Gofund your organizer and the gofum me is help find
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  Speaker 1: Mamta Nadia again, thank you for being with us. When
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  Speaker 1: did you realize Mamta was gone?
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  Speaker 2: August ninth.
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  Speaker 5: I was made aware. I got a call from a
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  Speaker 5: friend I met at Mamta's baby shower August nine.
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  Speaker 2: Today is August fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: So you found out she was missing on August nine. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm already five days in, but it gets worse. It's
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  Speaker 1: much further than just five days in. Nadia, tell me
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  Speaker 1: that one more time. Did you who called you?
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  Speaker 5: A friend from the baby shower that I met there?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? Tell me about the baby shower. Let's start right there. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: It took place last year and they were probably around
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  Speaker 5: one hundred people there.
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  Speaker 2: It was really big.
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  Speaker 1: What time do we think she went missing? Well, she
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  Speaker 1: was last seen alive July thirty one, I understand too,
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  Speaker 1: An investigated. A reporter of Fox five joining us not
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  Speaker 1: I same to bon Sou that she was last seeing
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  Speaker 1: July thirty one, but no one realized she was missing
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  Speaker 1: until she did not show up for her pediatric nurse ship.
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  Speaker 1: Is that correct?
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  Speaker 6: You're absolutely correct. Police are telling us, Please some NASA's
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  Speaker 6: park tell us that the last time she was seen
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  Speaker 6: was Wednesday, July thirty first at her home in Manassas Park,
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  Speaker 6: and as we've been discussing, according to her coworkers, she
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  Speaker 6: did not show up for her shift on the first
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  Speaker 6: and that's when they got concerned and they called police
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  Speaker 6: and a welfare check was requested.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, Nana, I just had chills go down my whole
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  Speaker 7: self when you say pediatric nurse. I'm just thinking of
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  Speaker 7: all the love, all the dedication, all the long hours
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  Speaker 7: the pediatric nurses in the nick you.
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  Speaker 1: Devoted and saved my children, and now she's gone, and
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  Speaker 1: who's trying to find her, Who's trying to help her?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they literally saved my twins lives. They saved
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  Speaker 1: their lives. And from what I hear about her to you,
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  Speaker 1: Nadia Navarro, this is her friend. She was completely devoted
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  Speaker 1: to pediatric nursing, which is no small thing. That's a niche,
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  Speaker 1: that is a specialty.
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  Speaker 2: And then the miracle she had her own baby.
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  Speaker 8: Girl.
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  Speaker 1: There is no way in h E double l this
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  Speaker 1: woman would leave that pediatric unit and more important, her
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  Speaker 1: own baby.
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  Speaker 5: That's true.
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  Speaker 2: She would never, she would never do that. Tell me
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  Speaker 2: about her as a Personnaudia, I.
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  Speaker 5: Would say, Mamta is an incredibly dedicated person. She worked
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  Speaker 5: while she was studying, and she would study for at
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  Speaker 5: least nine hours a day to take the Enclax exam,
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  Speaker 5: that's the nursing exam. She studied for months and months,
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  Speaker 5: and even when when she had her baby, and when
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  Speaker 5: she was when she was pregnant, up to eight months,
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  Speaker 5: she was still working.
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  Speaker 1: You know, let me go to Kathleen Murphy joining us,
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  Speaker 1: a high profile lawyer out of Raleigh at Triangle Divorce
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  Speaker 1: Lawyers dot com. Kathleen what Not Indvro just said, brings
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  Speaker 1: back memories. Study, study, study, study, I remember even studying
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  Speaker 1: in the bathtub in law school. It is constant. When
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  Speaker 1: she said nine hours a day, that's for real. People
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  Speaker 1: do study that hard, that intensely if they want to succeed,
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  Speaker 1: if they.
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  Speaker 2: Care about what they are doing.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, there's those students that go often have a weekend
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  Speaker 1: drunk every weekend and kick around.
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  Speaker 2: Not this girl, No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Monta, tell them it's real. People really do study that hard.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at my law school books, which I
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  Speaker 1: still have even though they were third hand when I
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  Speaker 1: bought them, there are watermarks all over them from turning
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  Speaker 1: the pages on the side of the bathtub.
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  Speaker 9: Well, when I went to law school, Nancy, we didn't
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  Speaker 9: have laptops. I had index cards in shoe boxes and
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  Speaker 9: we would spend eight to ten hours a day.
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  Speaker 1: That was our job. As this is her job.
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  Speaker 9: Adding into this her nursing career, being a mother, she's
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  Speaker 9: clearly a dedicated and hard working person. You don't become
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  Speaker 9: a nicky nurse without being a very, very dedicated nurse,
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  Speaker 9: you know.
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  Speaker 1: Back to you, Nadia Navarro, I want to follow up
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  Speaker 1: on her dedication, what she went through to become a
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  Speaker 1: pediatric nurse. There is no way she's going to just
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  Speaker 1: not show up for her shift.
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  Speaker 2: Oh absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: I mean being a nurse was her absolute dream and
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  Speaker 5: it's something that she did in India, but she had
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  Speaker 5: to restart the process of getting certified, board certified here
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  Speaker 5: and she was completely committed to it. Nothing was going
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  Speaker 5: to stop her. Every day she was taking notes. If
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  Speaker 5: you went into her room, it was the walls from everywhere.
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  Speaker 5: We're filled with sticky notes everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: So that day everything goes sideways.
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  Speaker 10: Listen Meliss's alarm go off when new mom Mamta does
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  Speaker 10: not show up for her regular shift at Prince William's.
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  Speaker 10: In fact, it's so out of character Mamtas coworkers began
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  Speaker 10: reaching out to find out what's wrong. Unable to reach her,
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  Speaker 10: the hospital management calls Manassa's Park police, begging for a
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  Speaker 10: welfare check on Mamta and her baby too.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Fitzgibbons joining us along with Nana Saint Iu Boone,
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  Speaker 1: Sue and friend Nadia Navorro. Brian Fitsgibbons, Director Operations, USPA
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  Speaker 1: Nationwide Security leads a team of investigators specializing in finding
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  Speaker 1: missing people. And you can find them at USPA Security.
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  Speaker 1: I could go on, but I want to get back
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  Speaker 1: to Mamta. Okay, Brian, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I hate, amongst so many things, when
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  Speaker 1: women here, You've got Naughtia saying her baby shower friends
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  Speaker 1: let me know she's missing. When it's scoffed at, when
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  Speaker 1: it's frowned upon, when it's discounted that mom's friends baby
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  Speaker 1: shower friends as in this case, say something is wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Why do police?
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  Speaker 1: God bless them because they are the backbone of every
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  Speaker 1: case I ever prosecuted. Why did they go, Oh, she'll
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  Speaker 1: show up, She's probably with her boyfriend. What Okay, My
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  Speaker 1: head is starting to hurt right here, she's with her boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: or she's just having a lay about, or she's having
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  Speaker 1: me time, or she's gone for a girl's weekend.
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  Speaker 2: That such be s. Why is this discounted?
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  Speaker 1: Why did so many days pass before that digital flyer
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  Speaker 1: went online before she was even reported missing. I'll get
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  Speaker 1: back to the husband on that in a moment. But
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  Speaker 1: why is the observation of women friends discounted this way?
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  Speaker 1: Like we're all hysterical. I actually feel hysterical right now.
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  Speaker 2: Because nobody's helping Mamta.
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  Speaker 1: She's helped all of these babies, all of these women
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  Speaker 1: get through the single most difficult thing in their life
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  Speaker 1: that they've encountered up to that point. But nobody's helping her.
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  Speaker 1: Why Why is it us and her baby shower friends
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  Speaker 1: trying to find her?
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  Speaker 11: It's amazing, Nancy, And time and again we see this
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  Speaker 11: in situations with missing women, that red flags are blown by,
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  Speaker 11: that they're overlooked by either.
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  Speaker 8: Law enforcement or the public.
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  Speaker 11: Now, in this case, I think there is something important
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  Speaker 11: for us to note. Law enforcement listed Momta listed, categorized
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  Speaker 11: her disappearance as involuntary.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, this is important for a couple of reasons.
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  Speaker 11: First and foremost when they categorize her disappearances involuntary. That's
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  Speaker 11: in the NCIC database where all missing cases go. Okay,
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  Speaker 11: this is one of six categorizations, and that involuntary coding
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  Speaker 11: makes up less than one percent of all missing people
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  Speaker 11: in the United States.
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  Speaker 8: So when law enforcement.
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  Speaker 11: Did that, that's a strong indicator to me that they
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  Speaker 11: have more information on the circumstances surrounding her disappearance.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that was a lot of words, Brian Fitzgibbons. And
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  Speaker 1: you know how I like to hear.
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  Speaker 2: It fast and furious, like a bullet.
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  Speaker 1: Give it to me and a bullet.
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  Speaker 2: Can you do that?
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  Speaker 11: No?
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  Speaker 1: Well, okay, you know what. I'll take your words and
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  Speaker 1: I'll shoot them right back at you and a bullet.
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  Speaker 1: Cops says, she's involuntarily missing. What does that mean? It's
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  Speaker 1: what we've been saying for now, what thirteen minutes. She
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  Speaker 1: would never have left her child, her baby girl willingly,
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  Speaker 1: she didn't decide to go to the mall.
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  Speaker 2: Can you agree with that, Brian?
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely? Absolutely. I think back that I had.
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  Speaker 11: Two children, Nancy, and if my wife was gone for
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  Speaker 11: more than four hours, I'd be calling everybody in the
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  Speaker 11: neighborhood to find where she was. The bottom line is
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  Speaker 11: days and days went by, and this is absolutely a urgent,
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  Speaker 11: urgent matter here.
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  Speaker 1: Bryan Fitzgimmons, did you just say, the director Operations USPA
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  Speaker 1: Nationwide Security, if your wife is gone four hours and
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  Speaker 1: you don't hear from her, you find that odd.
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  Speaker 11: Absolutely, I'm calling everybody in the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, So it's not just me, it's not just you
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  Speaker 8: and Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: No, Because if my husband is gone that long, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not like, Ooh, let me read his emails. He's with somebody,
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  Speaker 1: he's out of the bar.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that.
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  Speaker 1: I think things like he's had a wreck, somebody hit
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  Speaker 1: him over the head of the parking lot and he's
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  Speaker 1: bleeding out. Those are the kind of things that come
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  Speaker 1: to my mind. You know what, I'm with you four
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  Speaker 1: hours and I don't know where he or my children are.
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  Speaker 2: That's a problem for me.
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  Speaker 1: So Nadia Navarro joining me friend of Mamta and go
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  Speaker 1: fund me organizer about help fine Mamta. When you were
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  Speaker 1: told she did not show up for her shift as
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  Speaker 1: a pediatric nurse, what did you think? What was your
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  Speaker 1: immediate thought?
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was impossible. She would never have missed
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  Speaker 2: a shift.
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  Speaker 5: She wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Virginia Police in search of missing Mom Mamta last scene
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  Speaker 3: in Manessa's Park?
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  Speaker 1: Where is missing Mom Manta? Notice we say missing, that
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  Speaker 1: has a whole meaning to it. When you say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they're late for work, that's one thing. When you say
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  Speaker 1: they're missing, that's a whole another scenario.
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  Speaker 2: To doctor John.
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  Speaker 1: Delatory joining me Licensed Psychologists Mediator, It specializes in forensic psychology,
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Delatory, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned.
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  Speaker 1: Why is it us if five and myself and our
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  Speaker 1: whole crew searching for mom to her baby shower of friends?
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  Speaker 1: Why was her disappearance so quickly discounted? Days went by
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  Speaker 1: before she was officially named as missing.
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  Speaker 12: Well, see, here's from my perspective. I think the police
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  Speaker 12: are trying to catch up, right, and you know the
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  Speaker 12: other guest was describing how she's involuntary. But why did
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  Speaker 12: it take so long? Who says that the last time
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  Speaker 12: she was seen was at July? That was on July thirty? First,
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  Speaker 12: where did the police get that information? Could it have
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  Speaker 12: been possible that she's been missing for a lot longer?
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  Speaker 12: And her disappearance just wasn't actually raised. Who had you
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  Speaker 12: know where? Where was the urgency from her family members
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  Speaker 12: to get this name out there, to say, hey, she's gone,
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  Speaker 12: she's engaging in a behavior that she has no business
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  Speaker 12: engaging in, that she would never do under any circumstances.
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  Speaker 12: Where is the urgency to get this done?
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  Speaker 8: Now?
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  Speaker 12: I can understand people, you know, deal with stressors in
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  Speaker 12: all different kinds of ways. But if your statement is
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  Speaker 12: is that you love her and this person is important
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  Speaker 12: to you, you would anticipate that they would do more
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  Speaker 12: to get a resolution to what is going on.
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  Speaker 8: Joining me.
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  Speaker 1: Investigative reporter from Fox five Nana Saint to Bonsou Nana
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  Speaker 1: Delatory brings up a good point like why didn't the
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  Speaker 1: family raise a red bell of alarm? Well?
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  Speaker 2: What wait?
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  Speaker 1: When you are working crazy shifts as a pediatric nurse,
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  Speaker 1: that can be at night, that can be in the
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  Speaker 1: mornings when you're raising.
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  Speaker 2: A child and you're up with the baby all during
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  Speaker 2: the night.
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  Speaker 1: You may not check in with mom and dad religiously
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  Speaker 1: every day.
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  Speaker 2: Two or three days can pass when you haven't spoken
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  Speaker 2: to them. Does that happen to me?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: But does it happen to most people?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: So three four days may have passed without her family
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  Speaker 1: even realizing she was missing.
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  Speaker 6: You know, Nancy, that's a good question, and that's a
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  Speaker 6: question we've all been asking. Why did it take so long? Fine,
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  Speaker 6: if her husband didn't call immediately, what about her parents?
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  Speaker 6: Does she have family?
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  Speaker 2: How about her siblings?
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  Speaker 6: But to answer your immediate question, I don't know if
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  Speaker 6: Mamsa has an extended family here. We only heard from
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  Speaker 6: a brother a couple of days ago at a community gathering.
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  Speaker 6: He facetimed her video called in from Nepaul.
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  Speaker 1: We have to be her voice, along with her friends,
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  Speaker 1: along with her baby shower friends banding together to try
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  Speaker 1: to find this missing mom, and with me one of
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  Speaker 1: those friends, Nadia Navarro, who's spearheading the go FUNDI helped
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  Speaker 1: find mom to that'sam tam mother, am Ta. Nadia, you
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  Speaker 1: spoke to her, I guess on weekly every ten day?
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  Speaker 2: Basis correct? Yes?
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  Speaker 5: And the last time I spoke to her was or
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  Speaker 5: I heard from her was July twenty eighth.
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  Speaker 1: July twenty eighth, so we know she was alive. July
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight, good gravy, it's August fourteen, so you heard not?
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  Speaker 2: Oh hey, well I've.
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  Speaker 1: Got you Nadia tell me about her schedule.
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  Speaker 2: What kind of shifts was she working at the hospital.
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  Speaker 5: So I know she was actually working part time. She
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  Speaker 5: was working twice a week, and I think they were
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  Speaker 5: normally like twelve hour.
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  Speaker 1: Shifts, so twelve hours per shift. I know she and
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  Speaker 1: her husband were passing off who was going to be
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  Speaker 1: with the baby and who was going to go to work.
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  Speaker 1: He's apparently an it guru, so speaking of the husband.
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  Speaker 4: Listen as police pull up to the home, husband Naresh
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  Speaker 4: Bot tells police that he doesn't know where his wife is,
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  Speaker 4: but he isn't concerned, saying she often leaves for two
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  Speaker 4: or three weeks at a time. Bod tells police they
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  Speaker 4: haven't been getting along well and have even talked about divorce,
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  Speaker 4: even though their families frowned on such talk. Satisfied there's
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  Speaker 4: nothing to worry about, the officers.
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  Speaker 2: Leave, Okay, what not worried? Not concerned?
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  Speaker 1: Well, our friends go up in arms when they hear
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  Speaker 1: this to Nana, saying to Vonsu joining us Fox five
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter, you stated that you went to the door
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  Speaker 1: and knocked on the door, he answered the door. Because
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  Speaker 1: I've watched him very carefully and of course, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: a trial lawyer. But I see him trying to like
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  Speaker 1: walk away from reporters, like, yeah, okay, bye, man. I'd
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  Speaker 1: be laying on the courthouse steps screaming my head off,
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  Speaker 1: begging for people to interview me, to help me find
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  Speaker 1: my husband, don't even mention my twins. But he kind
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  Speaker 1: of like walks away. He goes, look, I gotta go
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  Speaker 1: home and take care of the baby. Okay, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: can get that part. I can understand that this video
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  Speaker 1: is from our friends.
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  Speaker 2: At Fox five DC. What did you learn when you
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  Speaker 2: on the door.
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  Speaker 6: So, as we were approaching the door, we weren't sure
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  Speaker 6: if he was even home because we did hear that
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  Speaker 6: he had spent several hours at the police department on Monday.
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  Speaker 6: So we got to the neighborhood. We did like a
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  Speaker 6: door knock with neighbors. First, we spoke to one neighbor
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: who said, oh, he's home. We saw him enter, he
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: went through the garage, so go ahead and knock.
• 19:14
  Speaker 8: So what do we do?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: We approached the door.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: In these situations, you know, you don't know how you
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: want to enter it. You don't know if he's even
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: going to open, you don't know what he's going to do.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: When he opens, you don't know what you're going to
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: be standing with. So my photographer and I Jesson decided,
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: you know what, we're going to roll on the camera.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: We approach the door, I knock.
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: We stand there for maybe thirty seconds, but he comes out,
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: opens the storm door, and we just start talking.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, you know, when did she go missing?
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: Because at this point we're all confused with the timeline.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: You know, police are saying she was last seat on
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: the thirty first. Police are saying they can't the house.
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: The official report.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: Wasn't till August fish. I'm like, let's just ask the
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: husband when the last time he saw his wife was.
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: He did not answer that question, but he tells me
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: on Friday, August second, he called police and police came
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: to the house. He said something with the reports or
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: documentation took a while, and then Monday it was officially
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: documented and the report was official. So we went back
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: to police a day later and said, hey, her husband
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: saying that he called if you went, and they said
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: absolutely not. That has been correct. We went to the
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: house on Friday because a coworker called for welfare check. Obviously,
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: I'm finding all of this out after so as I'm
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: interviewing him, having a conversation with him on Monday, we're
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: just trying to piece together dates. Anyways, I say, sir,
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: are you gonna come to this vigil because I'm not
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: coming to the vigil because the baby is inside and
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: I have to take care of her. I say any
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: words that we can just put out to the community,
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: and he tells me, I just want my wife to
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: be found positively, positivity, positively. The wording was a little weird,
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: it was choppy, but we used it. He said he
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: wants his wife in a positive way, and then he left.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: But his demeanor a little shy. Like I said, it
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: wasn't full sentences. When he was giving us his timeline,
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: he was a bit all over the place. But I
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: will tell you, you know, just people don't tend to remember,
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: like with the first Thursday the second Friday, so he
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: would go back and forth between Thursday and Friday.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Nana right now, Yes, I can remember the last time
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I saw my fiancee Keith before he was murdered.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I remember it distinctly.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: It was early morning, around five am on August the sixth.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I had on my pajamas. He had on a denim shirt.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: He got in his car. He rolled down the driveway
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: with my parents home. He took a right turn and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: as he left, he slung his left arm driving with
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: his right slung his left arm over the driver's window
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and wave goodbye to me. I remember it to stay.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I know the time, the location, and the date.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: So I'm having a little problem with you telling me
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that he was quote all over the place regarding the
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: last time he saw his wife. And you know what
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: wife is enough, But what about the fact this is
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: the mother of his child.
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: Family and friends insist Mamta would never leave her baby.
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: Following the women's outrage, police follow up with Naresh BoNT.
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: This time they asked to look around the house inside
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: and out. After Manassa's police talked to Bot, he decides
• 22:33
  Speaker 10: he should file a missing person report.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Argent, a mom of a ten month old baby seemingly
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: vanishes from a Virginia town family and desperate search of Mamta.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: And that search is becoming more desperate as every day passes.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: To Brian Fitzgibbons, Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security, could you
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: explain it and the way only you can that every
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: hour a missing person remains missing. I don't mean a
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: mom on a walk about or a mom going from
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: me time with her girlfriends. I mean truly, as she
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: is categorized by police involuntarily missing. With every hour, the
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: statistics of her coming home alive lesson.
• 23:24
  Speaker 11: Absolutely, the chances of her coming home alive go down
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: with every hour that passes Nancy. And my question for
• 23:31
  Speaker 11: Nurash is when was this time that she was gone from?
• 23:34
  Speaker 11: Multiple weeks at a time, we have Mamta on social
• 23:38
  Speaker 11: media posting on almost a daily basis videos with their
• 23:42
  Speaker 11: baby at their house.
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: Okay, so this is a very concerning case.
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: Every day that goes by, there's a baby that doesn't
• 23:49
  Speaker 11: know where a mother is. And we're scratching our heads
• 23:54
  Speaker 11: here wondering why this timeline is what it is.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: And what about the husband? And let me get this straight.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Not the same to Botsu joining us Investi report Fox five,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and again, thank you for that exclusive video you're letting
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: us use. What am I hearing that he has had
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: to make a note of this active special secret intel
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: what does he call it? Active secret clearance with the army?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: What?
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Nancy?
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: These are all things we're trying to confirm on our end.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: Of course, yes, we've seen his book, we've seen the images,
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: We've we've spoken to friends just like Nadia who have
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: shared with us that he did serve at a point
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: he was deployed in comeback. We're still waiting on confirmation
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: for the actual details of when he served, what he served,
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: and what clearances he has. But these are all things
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: that we're just working to try to confirm, to even
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: try to get a better idea of.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to find that out anytime.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Listen an it Guru. Momta's husband, rash Bond, is not
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: actively searching for his wife, explaining that he has left
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: to take care of their baby girl. Notably, he also
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: has not helped to spread her story or her missing
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: person post her on social media.
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: Why.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: He claims to have a sensitive job with the US military,
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: but even given his so called secret clearance, he's uncertain
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: exactly when he reported his wife missing. Bod tells Fox
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: five he contacted police Friday, August second, but police didn't
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: file the report until Monday, August fifth. He then tells
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: another outlet he contacted police on August fourth and filed
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: the missing person to report while other reports say Mamta
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: wasn't reported missing until August fifth.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Back out to our guests, let me understand something, Brian
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: has Gibbons. The police performed a wellfared check, right, but
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and jump in, Nadia, Nana Dodge delatory, Kathleen, Brian. When
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: police first went to the home, it seemed to me
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: that the husband explained away her absence and police just
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: went away.
• 26:03
  Speaker 11: Correct, Nancy. It sounds like police accepted what Naresh told
• 26:07
  Speaker 11: them that Manta typically goes missing now.
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: Or typically goes away for a week or two at
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: a time.
• 26:14
  Speaker 11: Now, this seems to be contrary to what her friends
• 26:17
  Speaker 11: and family are saying.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that she would just quote go away
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: for weeks on end got them in an outrage. And again,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: let me report the husband has not been named a
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: suspect in Manta's disappearance. But I want to follow up, Brian,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: was something you detected regarding a chat room an online
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: group mom to visited?
• 26:41
  Speaker 11: Yes, Nancy, and this gives us more concern in this case.
• 26:46
  Speaker 11: Members of a private Facebook group have come forward and
• 26:49
  Speaker 11: provided some screenshots of Manta's communications over the last few
• 26:54
  Speaker 11: months that she was in the process of separating from
• 26:59
  Speaker 11: her okay, and there were some concerning postsmade in there
• 27:03
  Speaker 11: and concerning comments that Monta made about not having access
• 27:08
  Speaker 11: to funds, not having access to a vehicle, not understanding
• 27:13
  Speaker 11: the different laws around custody, and various threats that were
• 27:16
  Speaker 11: made to her by Naresh about the custody of their child.
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: So this adds to the mix of.
• 27:23
  Speaker 11: That reporting timeline and the time loss in this case
• 27:27
  Speaker 11: that these are really dire circumstances for Manta.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Days pass before the husband of missing Virginia mom and
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: nurse Mamta bond reports are missing to authorities. Where is Mamta?
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: We were just speaking to domestic relations expert Kathleen Murphy. Kathleen,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you were talking about the sometimes explosive scenario when you
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: have a baby as additional stress. The baby is up
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: all night, both of the parents are working. Now you
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: see the mom here Mamta. And I'm gonna I'm looking
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: forward to hearing from Nadia Navarro who is one of
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: her dear friends going online to an anonymous chat room.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: She doesn't know these people, they don't know her, begging
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: for help. Now, I want to circle back to what
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier. I mentioned it for a reason that
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: stated Feb. Sixteen. He is telling people, the husband that
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: he has quote active secret clearance with the army, all right, whatever,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: but he's telling that to his wife too, so in
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: her mind he is an it guru. He has secret,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: special secret clearance with the army, with the government. Can
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: you imagine and how this adds to her feeling of helplessness.
• 29:04
  Speaker 9: See it all the time where women are coming into
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: my office and they tell me these stories from their
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: husbands and they're scared. They don't know how to make decisions.
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: Making these decisions to leave their spouse, it's very difficult
• 29:19
  Speaker 9: in combination with the information that they're getting from their spouse,
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: it's so dangerous. Nancy and I have really bad feelings
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: for this mother because I don't believe she's alive at
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: this point.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Last scene in the home, I'm going to go to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Nadia Navorro, Momta's friend and this is the person that
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: banded everyone together to start looking for mom to after
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: a baby share our friends contact to her and she's fearheaded.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: The gofund me help find Mom. To Emma's and mother
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: a Emmason Mother Ta, Nadia, were you privy to any
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: of the dynamic between her and her husband.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: Absolutely when I lived with them, actually I just lived
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: with Mamta, and he would call me on my phone
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: constantly and text me constantly.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I figured it was Mamta's first time.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: In the States and that he was just really worried
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: about her well being. But it did get very intense
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: for me as he started to kind of control where
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: I would go too, and like at one point I
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: wanted to take Mamka to an Indian store so she
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: could see all the spices, and it just was about
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: ten minutes.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Further than we normally drove.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: It was only about twenty minutes then, like total, but
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: he wouldn't really let her leave the house, like that
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: was any further than five minutes. And on our way there,
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: he started calling us frantically, and he started yelling at
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: me to turn around and that she couldn't go there
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: and that it was too far away. I thought it
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: was a lot, but I thought maybe he's just I
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: can see now in hindsight that it was extremely controlling behavior,
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: but I was naive and I just thought he was
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: worried for her.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Let me understand something. I'm hearing this for the first time.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Not even Navarro a friend of mantas you stated that
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: he would call and text you constantly yes about what he.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: Just needed, constant location updates from me. So if we
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: went anywhere to grab food or to want to study,
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: he would be like, where exactly are you?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: What are you doing? Who are you with?
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: And you have to be back in thirty minutes basically.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: To the house. What are you doing? Who are you with?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: How would mom to react to all that?
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Oh? She would.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: She actually did very well. She goes, oh, he's just worried.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: And it did make me a little worried, but her
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: reaction would kind of soften it for me. She would say,
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: it's okay, it's it's normal.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: He's just worried.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: And I was like, this doesn't seem normal. But if
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: you're saying it's normal and it's a cultural thing, okay, you.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Know what, I feel sick to my stomach. Doctor John
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Delatory explain.
• 32:28
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it should make you feel sick to your stomach, Nancy,
• 32:30
  Speaker 12: Because here's the issue. These are the kinds of yellow
• 32:33
  Speaker 12: flags that people often just kind of push to the side.
• 32:36
  Speaker 12: This is clear power and control elements that are associated
• 32:40
  Speaker 12: with domestic abusers, but it's still it's still at the
• 32:45
  Speaker 12: top of the list. There's a reason why if a
• 32:47
  Speaker 12: woman goes missing, the first person you look at is
• 32:50
  Speaker 12: her boyfriend slash husband.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Guys, let me give you a number the National Domestic
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Violence Hotline eight hundred seven seven two three three repeat
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: eight hundred and seven ninety nine seven two three three,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and let me reiterate the husband has not been named
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: a person of interest or a suspect. Tonight, we are
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: all about finding Manta.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a nurse mom of a
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: ten month old baby, misses her shift at the hospital.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Her husband doesn't report her missing for almost a week.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Where is Mamta? Where is Mamta?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: There is a tip line number seven zero three three
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: six one one one three six repeat seven zero three
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: three one one three six. She has been classified as
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: involuntarily missing. Involuntarily missing. To Nadia Navarro, her friend who's
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: spearheading the GoFundMe to help the search effort, I'm amazed
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and flabbergasted that it's her baby, shower friends banding together
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: to try to find her, creating the flyers, getting it
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: out there, getting it on social media.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Tell me about the efforts to find Mamta.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Well, When I was told that Mamta was missing, I
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: had a really hard time finding news and confirmation of it.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I googled, I looked everywhere.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: And I just couldn't find information at first, until I
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: went onto Facebook. I had to go onto the specific
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: Manassas Park police website and that's when I started seeing
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: what happened. And I finally was able to find some
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: things on TikTok, but they were only in Nepali, which
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: is why I started the Facebook group find momped Up.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: Kawfel bought so that I could consolidate everything that I
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: could find on one page in English so that more
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: people could find out about it.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Then I made a flyer.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: I printed out about five hundred copies and I let
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: people know that I was going to be handing out
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: stacks of flyers to post around town. And the first
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: day I did that, only one person showed up. And
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: we did our best to go into her neighborhood.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: We let her neighbors know. Her neighbors were not even aware.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Her next door neighbors had no idea. I mean, nobody
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: knew that she was missing, and I wasn't going to
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: let that. We've also raised money now I've raised over
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: two thousand dollars to help pay for flyers. We bought
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: walkie talkies, we bought marking tape for areas that we're
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: going to search, and whistles and reflective mess.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: To Brian Fitzgibbons, Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security, did you
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: hear what not? Endavarro just said. She and the other
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: ladies are having to do a GoFundMe to get money
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: to make more flyers. Only one person showed up to
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: help her go search physically search for mam Toa. I mean,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: how wrong is this? Why is this happening to this
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: young mom? I mean, think about it. The husband's not
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: out there searching for her, the brothers in De Paul,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I don't where anybody else is. These ladies have banded together.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: She's reported missing late. The neighbors didn't even know what
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: was going on. I mean, how pitiful is this that
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Nadia is out there trying to search and one other
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: lady shows up to try to find mam Toa.
• 37:21
  Speaker 11: It's heartbreaking, Nancy, and thank God for these baby shower
• 37:25
  Speaker 11: friends who have banded together to spread the word, because
• 37:29
  Speaker 11: I don't think that you would have found out about
• 37:31
  Speaker 11: this and been.
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: Able to give this case the attention that it deserves.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and joining me literally at the last minute.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: None is sent to Boone Sue I, investigative reporter of
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Fox five out of DC. I just happened to find
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: her online yesterday. I think, gosh, where did I find her?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Somebody asked me reached out on Twitter, I think it was,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: and I.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Saw it and then suddenly like got to change every
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: saying we've got to do this mom tonight now, and
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: then we you.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Know, found you. But it's just so hazard Just can
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: you imagine this, Nana, Just one other lady shows up
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: and off they go, and they're trying to raise money
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: to buy whistles. I mean, it's like everyone is letting
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: her down, you know, Nancy. I want to say two things.
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: One, Sonadia, don't ever think the work that you're doing
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: is taken for granted or no one notices, because it's
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: through you creating that Facebook page that news outlets and
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: journalists like myself were able to figure out what was happening,
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: getting on that Facebook page, making those flyers coming together,
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: posting those up, those gatherings and vigils, and making those
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: signs That's what alerted us and prompted us to, for
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: lack of better words, the severity of the situation.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Again, we would have.
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: Never known she was a mother, twenty eight years old,
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: eleven baby, pediastric nurse. We didn't know anything.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: We didn't know any.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: Of this through the press release.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: That and another thing before I give police too much
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: of a hard time about the delay.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Who am I gonna believe them or the husband?
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: All I know is this woman is missing, and if
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: it were not for Nadia Navarro and people like naas
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: sent to Bon sou, I wouldn't even know about it.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Please help us find Mamta. Everyone has let her down.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Don't let it be us two tip line seven zero
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: three three six one one one three six. Thank you
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: to our guests, and thank you especially for Nadia Navarro
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: leading the search for her friend. Thank you for being
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: with us, because in cases like this, the only way
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: this young mom's powerless ness is known and understood is
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: through knowledge.
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  Speaker 7: Nancy Gray signing off, goodbye friend,