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- 0:00You do not care about fat people's health.
- 0:02Learn about fat people. Learn about colonization.
- 0:05Learn about the history. You don't have to be a scientist
- 0:08to logically understand that having an excessive amount of
- 0:10body fat is not good for your heart health, your
- 0:13cardiovascular health, your joints.
- 0:15You're probably insulin resistant.
- 0:16No, you are right, I actually do not care at all.
- 0:20It's just that you don't care about.
- 0:21That I mean, you can't really care about everybody's making it
- 0:24if. You don't love yourself or you
- 0:25would want to take care of yourself and be here for a long
- 0:27time. If you really loved your life,
- 0:29I'm sorry. Hey guys, welcome back to Normal
- 0:32Gaze, where we take on insanity. I'm Brad Palumbo here with
- 0:35Clarkson Lawson. Guys, what are we doing for
- 0:37members? Only this.
- 0:38Well, we just did my strange addiction clips.
- 0:40Yeah. And then we're going to do a.
- 0:42Deep dive on crusty crust. I crusty, crusty, all right, and
- 0:47then also go spam our Spotify with good reviews.
- 0:50Even if you're going to keep watching us on YouTube, just go
- 0:52to our Spotify and and review the show positively.
- 0:55If and if if if you don't like us then forget I said anything.
- 0:59Anyway, we're going to react to a non binary fat Tik Toker whose
- 1:03rant went viral. Let.
- 1:07Me get my talking points ready. Non binary isn't real.
- 1:12Being fat is OK as long as you aren't saying that it's healthy.
- 1:17I found a doctor, I don't know who I think lost her medical
- 1:20license. Again, it's the British doctors
- 1:22are deranged. But her whole shtick is that she
- 1:26calls herself the Fat Doctor, and she argues there's no
- 1:29evidence that being fat is bad for you.
- 1:32This is like that therapist on Jubilee, yes?
- 1:34Yeah, and I'm going to try to get her to do an interview.
- 1:37Yeah. Anyway, let's.
- 1:41No, this is sorry, the minute he said that title I just my energy
- 1:44went. Somebody, but this is actually a
- 1:47funny one that that there's just a lot in the video.
- 1:50Clark, you're not doing the Latino this week, so you have to
- 1:53do. That's.
- 1:53True, We have to make money. We have to find somebody to.
- 1:56Somebody else to milk like you know you like the term milk.
- 2:00I don't like the term milk because I associate it with
- 2:03Lily. Tino.
- 2:04All right, we've got to stop talking about Lily.
- 2:06All right, we should just start putting Lily in the thumbnail of
- 2:09all the videos so there's no Lily.
- 2:11Yeah, yeah, we should do it for one as a joke.
- 2:14Yeah, now that you're here. Do it for this one.
- 2:21Sorry guys, we're actually not talking about Lily.
- 2:22Tino today. We're actually not talking about
- 2:25Lily Tino today, but apparently you only want to watch us when
- 2:28we're talking about Lily Tino. Literally going to make the.
- 2:30Title. Yeah, do it.
- 2:31Dude, Oh my God, that's so funny.
- 2:33All right, let's let's watch this clip.
- 2:36You do not care about fat people's health.
- 2:38Stop pretending like you do. OK?
- 2:41Because if you actually cared, then you would do research.
- 2:46You would learn about fatness, learn about colonization, learn
- 2:51about the history of why fatness is demonized in our culture.
- 2:58Look. Science.
- 3:00Have you never seen the statue of Fertility?
- 3:05Have you never seen works of art throughout history?
- 3:14Me and my fat ass are going to be over here looking hot as and
- 3:18I'm healthier than you. Doubt it.
- 3:23That's. Really.
- 3:24But actually, baby. You don't know how healthy I am
- 3:27by looking at me period end of. Which it does.
- 3:33Be gone. Oh, I don't know if she's trying
- 3:36to be Madea or a gay man or a mix of both, but yeah.
- 3:42So statues in history were fat because most of the population
- 3:47was frail and starving and fatness was reserved for very
- 3:51rich people, so it was glorified.
- 3:53But then. We have the opposite.
- 3:55We, you know, this thing called science, caught up with us.
- 3:58Oh, no, it's just colonization, Yeah.
- 4:00No, it's. I didn't know colonization was
- 4:03the same thing as it's. Colonization, Colonization.
- 4:06Must be good. Slowly surrounding her heart,
- 4:09more vital organs, fat cells. Actually there is an argument
- 4:15that the body storing fat cells is a form of colonization.
- 4:18I'm sorry explain this. Argument because they colonize
- 4:22your organs, specifically your liver.
- 4:24Fatty liver disease, right, Doctor?
- 4:26Sure. I I like this.
- 4:29And I think that overconsumption of fat is a form of colonization
- 4:34because you are colonizing your body with fat stores that it
- 4:38does not need and actually ends up hurting you.
- 4:40But. You don't actually.
- 4:41She's healthier than us, and you can't tell by the.
- 4:44Time truly intersectional, Clark, that is.
- 4:46Yeah. Thank you.
- 4:48Thank you very much. She probably is healthier than
- 4:50me. Well, 'cause you're injecting
- 4:52yourself with a random. Yeah, and I just started vaping
- 4:55again and I've been partying a little bit.
- 4:58I know, but you're still I've. Been having a good time.
- 5:00Also also, it's like it's irrelevant.
- 5:02Maybe she is healthier than you, but not because she's fat on
- 5:06that dimension she is unhealthy. So she might be a overall
- 5:09healthy person. Still.
- 5:10Now it's probably a matter of time.
- 5:12Unfortunately, these things tend to cause issues.
- 5:15I don't know is it? But is so to the doctor
- 5:18producer, is this really something where it's like, oh,
- 5:21it's just whiteness, it's just bias now?
- 5:24Is this just like objective demonstrated scientific fact?
- 5:28Do you actually think Spencer Pratt has a chance at winning?
- 5:31Because there are people who are lying to me and they're like,
- 5:34oh, I think Spencer Proud is going to win.
- 5:36And I'm like. I mean, listen, I kind of doubt
- 5:39it, but the fact that it's even a chance is crazy, Is such a
- 5:43vibe shift and I think I one I'm not unhappy about.
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- 5:58Of course, Karen Bass has a 69% chance giggity and the other
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- 6:38Now back to the show. Well, what they're saying is, is
- 6:40that fatness itself is not the thing that's associated.
- 6:43It's the diseases that come from being overweight, isn't that?
- 6:47Just the way of saying the same. Thing.
- 6:49Well, it's been proven that it is.
- 6:51It is. The problem that they miss is
- 6:53that there's plenty of studies that have proven it is causal.
- 6:55Yeah, that's like saying. Yeah, and not.
- 6:57Correlated, the issue is. And they're claiming that
- 6:59fatness it may be correlated, only correlated to like all
- 7:04increasing all 'cause mortality. But it's actually been proven in
- 7:07many studies that it is causal. She's like, actually I just
- 7:12because I she's like, actually smoking isn't the problem.
- 7:17Lung cancer is the. Problem.
- 7:18That's essentially what they're saying, yeah.
- 7:20They're like, well, healthy people get lung cancer, so
- 7:23smoking must not 'cause that that's what they're.
- 7:25Saying, is that literally the level of scientific analysis
- 7:28we're dealing? I mean, what's interesting to me
- 7:30is that like even the wokest most left wing doctors, it's not
- 7:35controversial that being obese is bad for you.
- 7:37It's not in dispute. No, no.
- 7:41Yeah, it's just not. It'd be more of a social, So
- 7:44yeah, then when she's telling you to do the research, all of
- 7:47the things she's wanting you to do research on are more social
- 7:51constructs. If you know.
- 7:52She wasn't. Saying we need to do more
- 7:54medical research. Because saying we need to learn
- 7:57about the harms of being fast and how it you need to and all
- 8:00of that, yeah. Yeah, and that's why your heart
- 8:02is slowly drowning. Also as if my issue is that
- 8:06they'll blame like depression and the social aspects of being
- 8:09fat all on like social constructs.
- 8:11I mean, it's part of it. Sure, that's part of it, but I
- 8:13think some of those social constructs are created based off
- 8:17of biology. In the same way that if you
- 8:19inject a bunch of estrogen, you may start acting in a way that
- 8:22is more associated with the social construct of femininity,
- 8:26but that's still influenced by biology.
- 8:27Just like being fat influences you to be a little bit more
- 8:31lethargic, or to act a certain way, or maybe to over consume.
- 8:35Not always, but sometimes. And then?
- 8:38You can certainly separate. A social construct based off of
- 8:41the biology that's happening at the individual level.
- 8:44Wow, I am so smart. Wow.
- 8:48Thank you. I'm done.
- 8:49Let's see. So the one thing is like she's
- 8:52where she's like you don't care about fat people's health or
- 8:55whatever you said at the beginning.
- 8:57I actually kind of do, but to the.
- 8:58Extent I do because I don't have health insurance because
- 9:00premiums are so damn high. But, and that's part of it, I
- 9:03guess, but there's a lot that goes into it.
- 9:05I care. I want you to do better for
- 9:07yourself, but at the end of the day, it's your choice.
- 9:09I don't. I care more about you having the
- 9:11freedom to hurt yourself than I do about you actually hurting
- 9:14yourself, because I think that that's what we should value
- 9:17more. But that doesn't mean that I
- 9:19don't care about you. And I only have so many to give.
- 9:23And there are like children dying of sudden diseases every
- 9:26day. And so it's like when you 'cause
- 9:27it to yourself, I'm going to have less sympathy for you, but
- 9:29I still want you to to. I mean, I do think there's,
- 9:32there's an argument to be made about like hunger signaling and
- 9:36some people being higher and like addictive behavior being
- 9:39more prone to him. I don't think that means that
- 9:41you are unable to help yourself. But I do think from like a
- 9:44scientific perspective, I have a lot of empathy towards people
- 9:48who are overweight because it's not as easy, It's not easy
- 9:51putting the fork down. It's simple.
- 9:53It's as simple as putting the fork down, but.
- 9:55It's not as easy, I agree. Yeah, the in the era of GLP
- 10:00ones, they should just take something.
- 10:01Well, honestly, yeah, I think everybody should be on Redditru
- 10:05tide. No, everybody not, not Redditru
- 10:07Tide. Sorry, that's not legal yet,
- 10:09but. Terzapatide.
- 10:11Yeah, terzapatide, yeah. We're gonna watch a video from
- 10:14this Noah guy who always makes videos about this topic and I
- 10:19liked his video on it, so we're gonna watch it.
- 10:21He's low key kind of fun. It's OK.
- 10:25It's more your type. Yeah.
- 10:26He's cute. Well, he's not Muslim or hairy
- 10:28or Latino. Hairy like bearded.
- 10:31Oh well, I don't really care about beards, I just like dark
- 10:33features. Anyways, you do not care about
- 10:36fat people's health. Stop pretending like you do
- 10:38because if you. Actually love her facial
- 10:40expressions. And the do research you would
- 10:43learn about fat phobia, learn about colonization, learn about
- 10:47the history and why fatness is. That's an exercise she's had in
- 10:51days. Me and my fat ass and nobody
- 10:53looking hot as and than you. You don't know how healthy.
- 10:57Somebody jumping at me. Period.
- 11:01Everything that's ever been in front of you.
- 11:02Listen, you don't have to be a scientist to logically
- 11:05understand that having an excessive amount of body fat is
- 11:08not good for your heart health, your cardiovascular health, your
- 11:10joints. You're probably insulin
- 11:12resistant. You don't know all this history
- 11:14to understand that you're not functioning and feeling at the
- 11:17maximum capacity as you could be with a lower body fat
- 11:20percentage. Remember, you have one body.
- 11:23Maybe you should take care of it.
- 11:25The thing is, is like, obviously those comments aren't nice, but
- 11:31on social media you kind of have to start your video out with
- 11:34like a so I understand why he said that, but yeah, he's right.
- 11:39No lies detected. Yeah, I love that you look
- 11:43insulin resistant or whatever, he says.
- 11:45I'm going to start dropping that on people.
- 11:47Doesn't don't GLPS cause insulin resistance?
- 11:50Or they can? That's a side effect, Doctor.
- 11:54I don't think they would cause. I don't know, I don't know.
- 11:58So I thought they were you given to diabetics?
- 12:01I don't know any. Yeah, why are we getting science
- 12:03advice from you? I'd rather get Helen Weber.
- 12:05Leo, what you're thinking of is the drug you're definitely not
- 12:09taking involves one of the insulin receptors.
- 12:13OK, got it. I don't.
- 12:15Know that's why it's a novel. Got it.
- 12:17So Queen here did make a follow up video after getting lots of.
- 12:22Oh, she did. Oh wait, I want to read a couple
- 12:24comments. Actually someone on her original
- 12:26video someone commented. No you are right.
- 12:28I actually do not care at all because she said.
- 12:32You don't care about that, I mean.
- 12:33You can't really care about everybody, somebody.
- 12:35Said, What does colonization have to do with this?
- 12:38Please elaborate. Yeah, girl, you ate dot dot dot
- 12:42and ate and ate and ate. Yeah, now I know Where Where
- 12:45Noah? Got and maybe girl, let's be for
- 12:48real. I'm fat as well by the way.
- 12:50Thank you. Not all fat people are
- 12:51delusional. People think I'm really fat,
- 12:54Folbic, and I'm not. No, I just think that you are
- 12:57very direct, blunt and blunt about it.
- 13:02I kind of pussyfoot around. I don't a little bit, just
- 13:07because I want fat viewers to know that I understand where
- 13:11they're coming. From.
- 13:13But I don't acknowledge those talking points as truth 'cause
- 13:16they're. Not we tell you.
- 13:17The truth? Yeah, Correct.
- 13:18But Brad's equally mean to all types of people who act.
- 13:23So it's. Or 0.
- 13:26Interpersonal. It's nothing to do with.
- 13:28I was going to say This is why you're on the black background,
- 13:30but that would mean that you, if it's yin and Yang, that would
- 13:33mean that you are the light in the darkness, and I would be the
- 13:36dark. I'm the light.
- 13:38That doesn't seem quite right. Yeah, because there's.
- 13:40Dark, but it doesn't seem quite right.
- 13:43I think that I would be, but we didn't.
- 13:46Pick it based on that. We just picked it based on how
- 13:48we looked, yeah. That's that's how we did.
- 13:51Which is checks out. Unsurprising.
- 13:53All right, we're going to watch her video responding to all the
- 13:56backlash she got. My video blew up on TikTok and
- 14:01the hateful comments. Have.
- 14:03Become overwhelming. I'm just a fat in love with my
- 14:11life. You're so hateful about that.
- 14:17Sounds. Like a you problem to me.
- 14:22Well, no, that's not what you were saying.
- 14:25You weren't just saying you were happy with your life.
- 14:27You were making you. Were you were giving?
- 14:30You called. Us a racist?
- 14:31You were basically. You're basically discrediting
- 14:34every medical established medical system in the 21st
- 14:39century, claiming they're wrong and.
- 14:43Then she's just like. I and then blamed it all and
- 14:46then blamed it all on the white man.
- 14:47So I don't really know if that's just loving yourself.
- 14:51Also, considering you're white, I don't know if that's loving
- 14:53yourself. So yeah.
- 14:55Also, you don't love yourself or you would want to take care of
- 14:57yourself and be here for a long time if you really loved your
- 15:00life. I'm sorry.
- 15:01Yeah, that's me being mean again, but it's true.
- 15:04Yeah, I think, yeah, there's that's a little loaded, but
- 15:07yeah. That could be said about a lot
- 15:09of things that I said. All right, I think we're done
- 15:12with our our high calorie friend here and we're going to turn to
- 15:17our comments. Guys, remember to become a
- 15:19channel member if you want us to possibly read your comment,
- 15:21question or feedback on air and, or, or to unlock our weekly
- 15:25members only videos. We have over 1100 members.
- 15:29Which is crazy. It's amazing, yeah.
- 15:33And at 2000, Clarkson will delete his only fans.
- 15:36I thought it was 10,000. No, you that's way too high.
- 15:39We're never going to have 10. 1000 it might be getting deleted
- 15:42anyways. We'll see about that.
- 15:45We'll see producer doubts because.
- 15:49It's nice money, but I was. Going to say.
- 15:51Anyway, all right, comment time. Question for Clarkson, how are
- 15:56you healing? When I watched your live you
- 15:58said you still had a hole in your stomach.
- 16:01You got to update us. Don't show, you just want to
- 16:03show your abs. I don't have ABS, I'll show it.
- 16:07Here we go. Oh God, I don't want to look at
- 16:09that. So you can see it right here.
- 16:13Can you see it on camera? Yeah.
- 16:15And then this one's covered up. So I saw two holes.
- 16:18Oh, in my stomach. Well.
- 16:23Pause. There's your update.
- 16:26Oh, they probably couldn't even hear me, but it's fine.
- 16:29Yeah, probably. I love the show Superstore.
- 16:32What's your favorite character? You.
- 16:34Mentioned that, yeah, I don't know who my.
- 16:37I think it's, I forgot her name. It's the Asian girl.
- 16:41Oh, that's good. Yeah.
- 16:43Do your Asian impression again. So we know which one which is.
- 16:47So. My favorite character in the
- 16:50superstar is the one that look like me.
- 16:53Someone please clip this and post it on TikTok.
- 16:55That was good. It's way better than my British
- 16:57accent. That's.
- 16:59True, that's. Not saying, but that's.
- 17:02Not saying. Next one is you guys understand
- 17:05how much we rely on you for levity throughout the week.
- 17:09People scoff at quote UN quote influencers, but anything that
- 17:12makes this life easier to endure is worth a hell of a lot.
- 17:16No, that's true. Well, I mean, yeah, influencers
- 17:18are just entertainers. Oh, we talked earlier.
- 17:21That's something you've also kind of changed my mind around.
- 17:23I used to feel bad when I was doing content that wasn't
- 17:28serious or educational or informative or substantive, and
- 17:31I've come around to this position.
- 17:33I still want to do both, but there's actually is value in
- 17:36entertaining people and make people smile and make people
- 17:38laugh, even if it's not actually anything important.
- 17:41I would argue that there's more inherent value in it, well,
- 17:45depending on the content obviously, and there's nuances
- 17:48to it, but like if people are just always focused on what's
- 17:51logical and true, it really takes the magic out of life and
- 17:54I think that it depresses this is people very easily.
- 17:57But I think you need both. Yeah, obviously and.
- 17:59I think it was for a while I was like, oh, that's like low brow,
- 18:03just entertaining people. And in reality, I no I.
- 18:06No, I mean I I think it takes talent in.
- 18:08Yeah, I do as well and we're big talents around here.
- 18:12Naturally, next one. If you had to be handcuffed to
- 18:15Blossom or Lily for 24 hours, who would you choose?
- 18:19Blossom. I feel like me and Blossom would
- 18:23be friends after if I'm being honest.
- 18:26I feel like you'd end up. What the what the on what
- 18:34grounds is that belief like? Because you're bipolar, at some
- 18:38point in the 24 hours you would you just, it'd be right there.
- 18:42Bipolar stuff, which I don't I'm not actually bipolar has never
- 18:46influenced a sexual decision where my standard let me I'm
- 18:51actually that's not true. That's not true at all.
- 18:55But I. Don't think the bipolarness
- 18:57it's. It's never been like my Sanders
- 18:59have never dropped that. Signal.
- 19:01What are you saying about Blossom?
- 19:03That that my preference in men with penises doesn't ever really
- 19:10come close to blossoms essence. You're just saying you couldn't
- 19:13handle that ride. Probably not.
- 19:17Probably not. I would definitely choose
- 19:19Blossom because I I have no ill will towards Blossom.
- 19:23I mean, I think she's a ridiculous person and like very
- 19:25unserious intellectually, obviously, but I think she seems
- 19:31sweet, if delusional. Yeah, no, I don't think that
- 19:33she's like evil or something. Whereas I think Lily is evil,
- 19:35like Lily is actually sick and I would never want to be near Lily
- 19:39Blossom. I could hang out with and have
- 19:41fun with and respect that there's pieces of her
- 19:44personality that I I'm sure are lovely.
- 19:47Whereas Lily Tino no no like Blossom has no allegations of
- 19:52illicit. Behaviour that I'm aware.
- 19:55Of just bad and I have a lot of room for trust me me, I have
- 19:58room for bad opinions and and all sorts of stuff.
- 20:01But when it's like you're being weird towards children like.
- 20:05Really, really is somebody that we actually do not like
- 20:08confidently. Like it's funny, but it's not.
- 20:11No, OK. What are some Internet
- 20:14restrictions or laws that Clarkson would make happen in
- 20:18Clarkistan? Oh boy.
- 20:20So. OF is banned except yours and.
- 20:25No, no, I wouldn't say that because it's a lucrative market
- 20:28and considering how much plastic surgery we would be paying for
- 20:31people, I just think that the market will be flooded with so
- 20:33many hot people that OF wouldn't be very profitable.
- 20:35So it would kind of work itself out, but.
- 20:38What I would. Do is I would make sure no kids
- 20:42are allowed on social media at all.
- 20:47And yeah, that's the first thing I would.
- 20:50I would ban kids from social media.
- 20:52I probably also do something with algorithms I don't know
- 20:55yet. And then these are kind of
- 20:57boring laws. What other things?
- 20:59What was the question? About Internet laws.
- 21:01Well, it was Internet laws. Specifically Internet.
- 21:04Yeah, yeah. I don't know if I would ban
- 21:07people from showing their children because I think that
- 21:10the Internet laws would be so strict that the issue with
- 21:14trigger warning CPI think that would be pretty solved.
- 21:19But if it was America, I, I might.
- 21:22I don't know. Clarkistan would be utopia, so
- 21:25it wouldn't really be a. Problem more like dystopia.
- 21:27Most things sometimes overlap. OK.
- 21:30Last one. Dystopia for some, but utopia
- 21:32for most. All the only for the that's.
- 21:35What I'm saying Kharkistan dystopia for some, utopia for
- 21:40most. That's.
- 21:41Like. Every if you're hot.
- 21:43Every authoritarian vision. Ever.
- 21:45Yeah, it's like. I I am authoritarian on normal
- 21:49gaze in my dreams. I am because it it's a utopia.
- 21:53OK, last. Comment Last comment is if you
- 21:56had to add a third member to the channel Who?
- 21:59We're monogamous would. You choose Where would you?
- 22:043's a crowd. Probably Blair has the most of
- 22:07the the funny. Come to right wing.
- 22:10Vibe well for me. Our fans would love it.
- 22:13I would add somebody who doesn't talk politics like somebody like
- 22:18a gay influencer that like maybe like in the like Tricia sphere.
- 22:26Oh my God, Tricia. No, she would never.
- 22:27No, no, no, no, no. I mean I feel like that the
- 22:30actual sphere is like too left wing even for me.
- 22:34But somebody who is like making funny ish content, like a
- 22:38comedian that is not associated with politics, I think that
- 22:42would. But it would also.
- 22:43I don't want them to outshine me.
- 22:46Yeah, that is the problem. Yeah, Oh well, all right, guys,
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