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  Speaker 1: Is the gold reform It.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight Israel's latest stunning assassination of an Iranian leader. Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump loses it with Australia, how the ABC is campaigning
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  Speaker 2: against the around war and a street walk with Pauline
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  Speaker 2: Hanson in Adelaide today more evidence that the One Nation
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  Speaker 2: revolution is real. But first today we saw a sign
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  Speaker 2: of the panic that Pauline Hanson has caused the Liberals.
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  Speaker 2: It was in the leaders of the Beate ahead of
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  Speaker 2: the Saturday state election in that state. Now that election
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  Speaker 2: will be a massive moment of truth for Hanson's One
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  Speaker 2: Nation party. The polls show it's got massive support, unprecedented.
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  Speaker 2: The final poll ahead of the election shows One Nation
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  Speaker 2: well ahead now of the Liberals twenty two percent to
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  Speaker 2: nineteen with Labour cruising to an easy win. But when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to voting day, will those supporters stick with
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  Speaker 2: One Nation? Will it get the preferences it needs from
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  Speaker 2: other parties to Tippet's candidates over the line. Who knows.
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  Speaker 2: But one thing we do know is that the pressure
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  Speaker 2: from One Nation is forcing liberal leaders everywhere really to
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  Speaker 2: fight harder for the conservative vote and to drop some
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  Speaker 2: of the me too positions have taken with labor in
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  Speaker 2: the past. Now this showed up in two exchanges, in
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  Speaker 2: particular today between Labor Premier Peter Malanawskis and new Liberal
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  Speaker 2: Leader Ashton Hearne. And in one of them, I have
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  Speaker 2: to say that Herne came a bit of a cropper.
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  Speaker 2: And I suspect this because liberals like her from the
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  Speaker 2: so called moderate wing the liberal left aren't used to
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  Speaker 2: fighting conservative causes. Now start, I'll leave the worst example
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  Speaker 2: actually to last. Here's the first one, a topic that
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  Speaker 2: Herne chose as herself as the question she'd really like
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  Speaker 2: to ask the Premier, a question I doubt she would
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  Speaker 2: have asked first if one nation hadn't stolen so much
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  Speaker 2: of the Liberal support.
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  Speaker 3: Premier, you committed to voice, treaty and truth in Victoria.
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  Speaker 3: They've spent seven hundred million dollars on treaty. Will you
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  Speaker 3: rule out reparation payments in your treaty plan?
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  Speaker 2: Now you know mallon OUs has hit back. You know
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  Speaker 2: why did you vote for it in the Parliament? To
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  Speaker 2: who you are now? But good on hern for raising
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  Speaker 2: this and for promising right from when she became leader
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  Speaker 2: to abolish South Australia's form of the Voice, which is racist,
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  Speaker 2: which is an attack on democracy. And I actually think
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  Speaker 2: that Herne has done pretty well, not just in this policy,
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  Speaker 2: but as well as could be expected, certainly as leader
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  Speaker 2: after being rushed in to head a broken party the
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  Speaker 2: very last minute. But this second example was le good
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  Speaker 2: and like I say, suggests to me someone not familiar
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  Speaker 2: with an issue. The liveral should have been fighting for years.
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  Speaker 2: The loans should have just tripped off their tongue, almost
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  Speaker 2: in their sleep. It's, of course, the climate's scare, and
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  Speaker 2: it sounded bad e when Herne mixed up the labor
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  Speaker 2: target for renewable energy with the labor target to cut
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  Speaker 2: all emissions then at zero, and then got worse.
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  Speaker 4: Ken Ashton say to everybody watching today that the state
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  Speaker 4: Liberal Party, hers state MP's are governed, that the leader
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  Speaker 4: of the opposition leads. Are they still committed to net zero?
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  Speaker 4: It's a simple yes or.
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  Speaker 3: No answer, and the answer to that is not by
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven. So you've legislated that we've got to
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  Speaker 3: hit net zero.
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  Speaker 4: Rene Ashton, I'm happy to explain to you the distinction
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  Speaker 4: between meet renewables and net zero.
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  Speaker 1: Do you not know.
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  Speaker 4: I've been okay well that I hasn't been. And that's
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  Speaker 4: a moment I.
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  Speaker 3: Have been extraordinarily clear. Do you understand the difference net
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  Speaker 3: zero from a South Australian perspective, Premier, we.
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  Speaker 2: Don't have any coal.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have any coal in South Australia. This is
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  Speaker 3: a classic example. This is yes, this is a classic example.
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  Speaker 4: The difference between net renewables and net zero is what
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  Speaker 4: carbon emissions are coming in and out of the atmosphere.
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  Speaker 3: We're doing example of the premiere trying to conflate federal
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  Speaker 3: issues with state issues. This is your.
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  Speaker 2: Look. I don't like man analysis patronizing a little. Let
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  Speaker 2: me explain to you, my dear lady. Kind of tone there.
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  Speaker 2: But from the hearnside, not good and the Premier made
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  Speaker 2: the obvious thig.
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  Speaker 4: Cory Bernardi is standing here right now. If he was
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  Speaker 4: standing here running for the ole house, he'd say I'm
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  Speaker 4: a post net zero. I say I'm in favor of
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  Speaker 4: net zero.
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  Speaker 2: Hearn will live and learn and will get stronger with times.
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  Speaker 2: This just got a lot of talent. But the fact
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  Speaker 2: remains that it's late, and I've got to add, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, before I move on, it is late climate
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  Speaker 2: policies and targets that are in fact the most dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: Forget the spin, look at the actual policies, and hernit
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  Speaker 2: Ley says the focus should be on cheaper power, not
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  Speaker 2: emission targets, and she is correct, But her stumbles are
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  Speaker 2: what you might expect from a liberal trying on one
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  Speaker 2: nation's clothes. If the Liberals have been fighting that zero
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  Speaker 2: for years, they wouldn't stumble like that in arguing their
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  Speaker 2: new case today. But one nation was certainly on the
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  Speaker 2: mind of the premier as well.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever the result of the election is, I'll wake up
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  Speaker 4: in South Australia, Pauline Hanson will be in Queensland, and
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  Speaker 4: the people of this state have a choice to make.
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  Speaker 4: Who do they want to lead their government that will
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  Speaker 4: fight for this state and them.
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  Speaker 2: And when melanowskis met Pauling Hanson outside for the first time,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, along with their star candidate Cory Bernardi,
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  Speaker 2: who will then lead the charge in the House if elected,
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  Speaker 2: now Melanous has slipped in that you know, go back
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  Speaker 2: to Queensland line, even as Hanson offered to cooperate in
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  Speaker 2: making South Australia better.
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  Speaker 5: But I hope that you know, Corn, do you get
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  Speaker 5: seas we might happy work over I'll.
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  Speaker 6: See through the stage.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm always happy to work with those that are
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  Speaker 4: happy to work with us.
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  Speaker 7: We might have we might see the legislation, we might.
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  Speaker 4: Have violent, violently different views on a number of subjects.
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  Speaker 7: But I'm always ready to work with those who way
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  Speaker 7: work in.
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  Speaker 8: The interest of the statement.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 9: I wish he's so troubles back to queens like that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So one nation faces a moment of truth on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: But when or lose in South Australia, you can see
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  Speaker 2: it's already really changing the debate. It's just that the
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  Speaker 2: liberals now need to learn the new lines and really
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  Speaker 2: mean them. Now the IT War in Iran, it's so
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  Speaker 2: far in military success for the US in Israel, but
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  Speaker 2: it's turning into a diplomatic disaster with Donald Trump now
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  Speaker 2: blast in the ally, including Australia, allies who won't help
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  Speaker 2: him win. But let's first go through these successes. You
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  Speaker 2: don't hear enough about that. More importantly, today, I think
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  Speaker 2: of all the news is that the Israelis have just
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  Speaker 2: assassinated Irans the facto leader security chief Ali lariy Jani,
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  Speaker 2: who just last Friday. So Trump didn't know what he
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  Speaker 2: was up against.
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  Speaker 10: The Zionist entity's attacks on the course of the march
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  Speaker 10: are proof of its desperation. Trump is not intelligent enough
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  Speaker 10: to realize that the Iranian people are mature, strong and
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  Speaker 10: determined people. The greater the American pressure, the stronger the
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  Speaker 10: people's resolve.
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  Speaker 2: Also killed the head of the paramilitary besige force used
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  Speaker 2: to terrorized and control of the Iranian public. Israel is
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  Speaker 2: also taking out passige checkpoints in Tehran in what seems
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  Speaker 2: an attempt to make the bessage too scared to do
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  Speaker 2: their job in the open, especially now when the regimes
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  Speaker 2: trying to stop Iranians from gathering in crowds to sell
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  Speaker 2: lebrate an annual festival. As Israel's Prime minister suggested, in.
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  Speaker 11: The past twenty four hours, we knocked out two of
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  Speaker 11: the terrorist chieftains, the top terrorist chieftains of this tyranny.
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  Speaker 11: Our aircraft are heading the terror operatives on the grounds
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  Speaker 11: and the crossroads in the city squares. This is meant
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  Speaker 11: to enable the great people of Iran to celebrate the
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  Speaker 11: festival of Fire. So celebrate and happy in ormers were
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  Speaker 11: watching from above.
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  Speaker 2: In response, Iran still managed to fire off a barrage
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  Speaker 2: of missiles at Israel and also at Dubai, and it
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  Speaker 2: hit a military base in the United Arab Memorirates. It's
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  Speaker 2: normally also used by between sixty and eighty Australian troops.
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  Speaker 12: There was an a Runian projectile hit near that base.
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  Speaker 12: I can confirm that no Australian personnel were injured and
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  Speaker 12: everyone is absolutely safe at this point in time.
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  Speaker 2: But one big problem remains. Iranas still closed these strada
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  Speaker 2: fomus to oil tankers, and the US president overnight lashed
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  Speaker 2: out at allies, including US, for not helping the US
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  Speaker 2: to clear that waterway of Iranian drones, mines, and missiles.
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  Speaker 6: NATO allies agreed with us, but they don't want to,
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  Speaker 6: you know, despite the fact that we help them so much.
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  Speaker 6: We have thousands of soldiers in different countries all over
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  Speaker 6: the world, and they don't want to help us, which
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  Speaker 6: is amazing, I mean amazing.
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  Speaker 2: As I said. Trump also wacked Australia, posting because of
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  Speaker 2: the fact that we have had such military success, we
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  Speaker 2: no longer need or desire the NATO country's assistance. We
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  Speaker 2: never did likewise Japan, Australia, or South Korea. Honestly, Trump's
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  Speaker 2: cause is just, but his diplomacy a poorly childish even
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  Speaker 2: many journalists hate him. Now, well, it's it ever been
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  Speaker 2: any different that they're beating up this story that the
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  Speaker 2: head of Trump's National counter Terrorism Center has resigned in
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  Speaker 2: protest at this war, claiming Iran posed no iminent threat
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  Speaker 2: to our nation, and it's clear that we started this
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  Speaker 2: war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby.
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  Speaker 2: But when you read on, of course, you realize this
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  Speaker 2: man is a conspiracy nut with Jews on the brain,
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  Speaker 2: writing that the US also invaded Iraq because of Israel,
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  Speaker 2: and that he writes as a gold star husband who
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  Speaker 2: lost my beloved wife, Shannon in another war manufactured by Israel.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, his wife was killed in Syria in twenty
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  Speaker 2: nineteen by the Islamic State. And funnily enough, in this
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  Speaker 2: same resignation letter, Kent actually praises Trump for destroying the
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  Speaker 2: Islamic States. So go figure. And what's more, if you
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  Speaker 2: check Kent's pass, you'll find out that the same media
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  Speaker 2: praising him today rightly criticized him back then, and he
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  Speaker 2: was appointed for being linked to far right white nationalists
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  Speaker 2: and letting himself be interviewed by a Hitler defender. The
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  Speaker 2: Democrats at the time called him conspiracy theorists. So now
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  Speaker 2: that he proves it is supposed to be the nation's conscience,
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  Speaker 2: give me a break. The real knock and Trump is
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  Speaker 2: that he appointed this skook in the first place. But
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  Speaker 2: all in all, the picture is of the West that
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  Speaker 2: would rather Trump fail than help him defeat a threat.
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  Speaker 2: Iran is much lucky with its allies Russia and China,
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  Speaker 2: which are actively helping it to fight America, as the
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  Speaker 2: Supreme leader's military advisor has described. Yes, and he said
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  Speaker 2: they even get targeting coordinates, et cetera, et cetera. I
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  Speaker 2: mean Russia, China and Iran they can go to war together.
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  Speaker 2: Why can't america so called allies give him half as
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  Speaker 2: much support to the US now. Unlike most liberal leaders,
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  Speaker 2: probably all of them, Matt Canavan has been against the
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  Speaker 2: zero manners for years as a man of conviction and intelligence.
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  Speaker 2: The new Nationals leader has also been a regular commentator
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  Speaker 2: on the show for years and joined me as usual
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  Speaker 2: maybe a day late a short while ago. Matt Canavan,
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  Speaker 2: good to see you again. One week into the job,
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  Speaker 2: big job two and you got that job with just
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: one day's notice to think about what you do. What
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  Speaker 2: have you been focused on doing in your first week.
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  Speaker 13: I've wanted to hit the ground running, Andrew. It's an
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  Speaker 13: enormous responsibility. It was unexpected. It doesn't really actually feel
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  Speaker 13: like a week because I've just kept going. I don't
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  Speaker 13: think I've got a week's worth of sleep in the
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  Speaker 13: last seven days at least, but I've got a lot
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  Speaker 13: of energy. I suppose it seems to do something like this,
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  Speaker 13: but I didn't think I would have the opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not going to die wondering.
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  Speaker 13: And in that first week, I've obviously put together a
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  Speaker 13: new a new old shadow ministerial team. I've outlined strongly
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  Speaker 13: what I want the Nationals Party to drive forward and represent,
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  Speaker 13: and that is that is about making our country bigger
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  Speaker 13: in a way, more Australia, more Australia, manufacturing, more Australian jobs,
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  Speaker 13: expand Australian settlements through our entire country.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a big country.
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  Speaker 13: We have barely settled, in my view, done a good
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  Speaker 13: job to start with, and then we've just slowed down
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  Speaker 13: and hunkered back into our capital city corners. So I've
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  Speaker 13: got some pretty big ideas and grand visions and I
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  Speaker 13: want to just go out there and drive forward with it.
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  Speaker 13: There's a whole lot of boring admin stuff I've got
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  Speaker 13: to do as well, put together staff and all that.
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  Speaker 1: You can't make this work without that.
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  Speaker 13: And I'm a big believer in having a great team.
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  Speaker 13: You don't get anything done in life without a good
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  Speaker 13: team behind you. I'm lucky to have some very good
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  Speaker 13: staff members who been working under the pump in a
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  Speaker 13: small little posse. But I reckon I'm going to have
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  Speaker 13: a great team as well going forward, a bigger team
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  Speaker 13: to get rid of this terrible government.
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  Speaker 1: Our country's going down the toilet right now.
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  Speaker 13: That's the number one task, so we can fulfill our
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  Speaker 13: promise as this great Southern land and give our children
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  Speaker 13: and grandchildren massive opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I would say that your first achievement has been
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  Speaker 2: I think very much to define what your message is.
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  Speaker 2: Even if it sounded almost like free wheeling about bigger everything,
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  Speaker 2: bigger everything, I think that came across quite well. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: you've got Donald Trump been quite upset with allies like
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  Speaker 2: Australia not sending ships to help clear the straight of
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  Speaker 2: whom moors. I know that Foreign Affairs you're more focused
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  Speaker 2: on local affairs, but what's going on over there is
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  Speaker 2: affecting us. Should he be surprised that no allies have
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  Speaker 2: brought bringing their A game to help his war.
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  Speaker 13: Well, there's no doubt that this particular conflict in the
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  Speaker 13: Middle East is very different from the lead up and
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  Speaker 13: conduct of the Iraq War twenty years ago. There are
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  Speaker 13: a lot of efforts to build a coalition of the
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  Speaker 13: willing which Australia was a willing participant on. Not the
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  Speaker 13: same effort has been put in here.
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  Speaker 1: Look for what it's worth.
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  Speaker 13: I support the Australian government doing what we can to
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  Speaker 13: help a friend. I made my points about the initial
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  Speaker 13: tax weeks ago, but our friend the United States is
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  Speaker 13: in this now, our other friends of the Golfer subject
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  Speaker 13: to unjustified attacks from a theocratic regime. We should do
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  Speaker 13: what we can to help protect our friends. Obviously, we
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  Speaker 13: also need to protect our own national interest and be
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  Speaker 13: mindful of the situation here in the Asia Pacific. But
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  Speaker 13: I think all of this does show Andrew that the
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  Speaker 13: world is very different than twenty years ago. Twenty years
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  Speaker 13: ago there was this I suppose still hope that there
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  Speaker 13: was a rules based order where the superpowers like the
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  Speaker 13: United States, would work with smaller and mid sized countries
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  Speaker 13: in unison, in consultation. You're not seeing that right now.
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  Speaker 13: You're not saying that right now with your like or
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  Speaker 13: hate Donald Trump. America is taking a much more independent
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  Speaker 13: pathway here. And the implication for us is that we
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  Speaker 13: too need to respond by becoming more independent, less dependent
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  Speaker 13: on foreign sources of basic commodities, less dependent on foreign militaries.
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  Speaker 13: We need to take care of ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: Again.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how we'd be less dependent on foreign
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  Speaker 2: militaries when we can't even find a single ship to
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  Speaker 2: circumnavigate to join those Chinese ships at circumnavigated Australia. That's
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  Speaker 2: a charing Ere weapon.
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  Speaker 13: That is a choice, Andrew, we can invest more in defense.
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  Speaker 13: We can build these things. And I look back at
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  Speaker 13: our history and take inspiration from that that In the
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  Speaker 13: mid nineteen thirties, the head of BHP S Andkton Lewis
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  Speaker 13: decided it was a good idea to start up an
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  Speaker 13: aircraft company, start at the Commwalth Aircraft Corporation, also with
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  Speaker 13: the bosses of Holden and Ourica greaterst trained companies, and
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  Speaker 13: within a few years they were building, we're away airplanes
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  Speaker 13: that eventually flew in World War Two, and so we
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  Speaker 13: can do these things. So Unfortunately, I don't always get
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  Speaker 13: the impression that our business is our big businesses are
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  Speaker 13: all as that patriotic as Essington Lewis was.
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  Speaker 1: I wish that was different.
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  Speaker 13: But we as ourselves, as Australians and Australian government should
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  Speaker 13: be investing more in Australia forgetting these ridiculous global skulls
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  Speaker 13: like NED zero and using our own resources to benefit
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  Speaker 13: the Australian people and to protect Australian families as well.
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  Speaker 2: This is one of the things that I worry about.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have a navy that could actually offer help
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  Speaker 2: in with the war in Iran, unfortunately, But I wonder
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  Speaker 2: whether we actually do have some responsibility to answer Trump's call,
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  Speaker 2: given that the hold up there in the straight from
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  Speaker 2: US is going to hurt us very banned if it's
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  Speaker 2: not fixed soon. It's not just the petrol, it's the
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  Speaker 2: gas and it's the fertilizer.
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  Speaker 13: Exactly what Andrew and I mentioned. We have an obligation
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  Speaker 13: here and I think you did too, that we've got
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  Speaker 13: to help friends out, but there's also self interest here.
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  Speaker 13: We're seeing right now the impacts of the almost just
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  Speaker 13: early interruptions to petrol and diesel supply. Our country stops
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  Speaker 13: without that. Almost the unsaid risk though at the moment,
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  Speaker 13: is the risk to fertilizer supplies. A couple of years
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  Speaker 13: ago we lost our last urea plant in Australia. It
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  Speaker 13: was in Brisbane and Gibson Island. We no longer produce
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  Speaker 13: the most important fertilizer in the world. We get two
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  Speaker 13: thirds of our urea supply now from the Middle East,
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  Speaker 13: the rest from other countries, mostly in Asia, and so
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  Speaker 13: we can't afford We will literally not be able to
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  Speaker 13: grow food without this input of fertilizer. And it just
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  Speaker 13: goes to show how insane we've been to shut down
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  Speaker 13: cold to shut down gas, to shut down fossil fuels
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  Speaker 13: when you can and we do eat fossil fuels. Fertilizers
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  Speaker 13: like urea are made from natural gas. That's why so
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  Speaker 13: many of them are made in the Middle East. That's
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  Speaker 13: why we don't make them here anymore because and drilled
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  Speaker 13: for oil and gas. We don't have cheap gas on
• 19:02
  Speaker 13: in Eastern Australian We lost to that business. On top
• 19:04
  Speaker 13: of that, then now the Australian government imposes a carbon
• 19:07
  Speaker 13: tax on anyone who wants to start a eurea plant.
• 19:10
  Speaker 13: I spoke to a business person a few years ago
• 19:12
  Speaker 13: who wanted to build a Eurea plant at Dolby and
• 19:16
  Speaker 13: they did the numbers. And with the governments with this governments,
• 19:19
  Speaker 13: with labor parties carbon tax on it, it just was
• 19:21
  Speaker 13: not worth even looking at further. That's very sad and
• 19:24
  Speaker 13: it's put us in this absolute mess because we remain
• 19:26
  Speaker 13: obsessed with net zero, not getting the basics right for Australians.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Well, you raised in net zero and I was struck
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: by Ashton Hearn having a little bit of problems with
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: that in the debate today with Peter Melanauskus ahead of
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: the South Astralan election. I was also struck on a
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: similar note by an endorsement that you got from Kevin
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Rudd's speech right to Troy or former speech rat. He
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: gets very upset when I mentioned this former speech rated
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Troy Bramson in Australia, who surrounding as if you'd briefed him.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: So can you clear this up? This bit up where
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: he writes, while Canavan has been accused of being a
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: climate change denialist. Well, that's actually false, because I've never
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: heard you deny the climate changes. But he goes on,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Canavan does not argue that the science is unproven or
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: it should not be addressed. Rather very different from the
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: how and the scale of the response. That sounds confused
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: to me, talking about the science like it's all one
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: way and saying you want that science address, what do
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: you want done? Then?
• 20:30
  Speaker 13: I don't know how much time I have left on
• 20:31
  Speaker 13: your show or will clear up that. I didn't even
• 20:33
  Speaker 13: have Troy's number, so I didn't brief him. I I've
• 20:36
  Speaker 13: got it now, and I sent him a note saying
• 20:37
  Speaker 13: thank you for your nice kind words. But he certainly
• 20:40
  Speaker 13: wasn't brief beforehand. And in terms of this broader issue, Look,
• 20:44
  Speaker 13: I've always said that there's evidence that an increase in
• 20:47
  Speaker 13: carbon dioxide has a warming impact on the temperature that
• 20:51
  Speaker 13: exists in a lab environment.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: The problem is.
• 20:53
  Speaker 13: In the real world there's a whole lot of potentially
• 20:55
  Speaker 13: offsetting effects, many of which we do not know much about.
• 20:59
  Speaker 13: There's a lot of uncertainty, and so it might be
• 21:02
  Speaker 13: reasonable to take some steps, and we say we're going
• 21:04
  Speaker 13: to scrap net zero, so just to clear it up.
• 21:06
  Speaker 13: I'm not respokespersonally responsible for the South strain the Liberal campaign,
• 21:10
  Speaker 13: but at the federal level, the Liberal and National parties
• 21:12
  Speaker 13: we will dump all this net zero matters.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: It's gone.
• 21:14
  Speaker 13: It's going to go if we win the next election
• 21:16
  Speaker 13: and we'll focus back on Australians. Now, that doesn't mean, though,
• 21:19
  Speaker 13: that we can't do some sensible things to help businesses
• 21:22
  Speaker 13: become more efficient, to use less energy which is a
• 21:25
  Speaker 13: cost which will which will lower our emission's impact in
• 21:28
  Speaker 13: a responsible and sensible way. That's perfectly reasonable. But we
• 21:32
  Speaker 13: should never bankrupt our country on the basis of it.
• 21:35
  Speaker 13: And there remains many many uncertainties about the impact of
• 21:39
  Speaker 13: carbon dioxide on climate change, especially especially the rubbish we
• 21:43
  Speaker 13: hear about natural disasters and I like that is so
• 21:47
  Speaker 13: many times over egged, and that scare campaign is one
• 21:50
  Speaker 13: of the reasons why we can't fill up our cars
• 21:53
  Speaker 13: at the moment or can't be guaranteed that because we've
• 21:55
  Speaker 13: had governments sell us absolute fear porn for years on
• 22:00
  Speaker 13: climate and that has meant that Victoria has a constitutional
• 22:03
  Speaker 13: ban on fracking, but we haven't developed the oil and
• 22:05
  Speaker 13: gas reserves of the Canning base and in West Australia.
• 22:07
  Speaker 13: We have enormous oil reserves in this country that remain
• 22:10
  Speaker 13: untouched because we are obsessed with net zero, not the
• 22:13
  Speaker 13: practicality of making sure that we can provide oil, petrol
• 22:16
  Speaker 13: and diesel to all Australians.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I hope that doesn't lead Troy to write another
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: column in the Australia withdrawing his nomination of Matt Canavan.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Matt Canavan, thank you so much for your time.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Thanks Andrew.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: After the break with protesses like this today, who can
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: stop Pauline Hanson? Like I say, Pauline Hanson was an
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: adelaide today campaigning a Saturday state election and then there
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: zipped into a cafe to have a coffee. I've got
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: to say the protest against her there was so small
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: and shrill that it just made the handsome juggernaut seem
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: real by.
• 23:16
  Speaker 11: They there as well by anything now.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: So on Saturday we're going to learn it's the one
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: nation phenomenon real, at least in South Australia. Does the
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: huge pole support translate to votes and more importantly to seats?
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Joining me as the political panel. Cameron Milner, former chief
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: of Staff the Labor Leader Bill Shorten, now Director of
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: g XO strategies and Michael Costa, former New South Wales
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Labor Treasurer Cameron. How important is the election on Saturday
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: in South Australia. It is in South Australia, right, so
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: federally it's a different kettle of fish. And when I
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: say importantly, I meaning for the future of one Nation
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: and the Liberals, well, I think.
• 24:02
  Speaker 14: It's crucial and South Australia is a really big test
• 24:05
  Speaker 14: because it tells you where the polling numbers are going
• 24:07
  Speaker 14: to translate to the seats in South Australia. But what's
• 24:10
  Speaker 14: really telling is that you go poll that Sky produced
• 24:13
  Speaker 14: today and only a few hours ago, which actually showed
• 24:15
  Speaker 14: that the big shift in one Nation now is coming
• 24:17
  Speaker 14: at the cost of labor in South Australia. And we've
• 24:19
  Speaker 14: talked about this. It's not just a conservative problem, it's
• 24:22
  Speaker 14: a labor problem. That's why the Premier, Peter Madle Outskers
• 24:25
  Speaker 14: has been campaigning against Pauli and Hanson campaigning against one
• 24:27
  Speaker 14: Nation because one Nation has the opportunity after Saturday to
• 24:30
  Speaker 14: be In fact, the alternative government in South Australia based
• 24:33
  Speaker 14: on some of these polls, is the number of seats
• 24:35
  Speaker 14: only in the upper house they'll win, but also in
• 24:36
  Speaker 14: the lower house.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Michael Costler, well.
• 24:42
  Speaker 15: I think the election's critical, but I think what is
• 24:45
  Speaker 15: really going to be interesting is where the preferences flow.
• 24:47
  Speaker 15: And as I said too on a number of occasions,
• 24:49
  Speaker 15: this is about preferences. And I know that the Liberal
• 24:52
  Speaker 15: Party is preferencing one Nation, but despite all the carry
• 24:55
  Speaker 15: on from one Nation, they're not preferencing the Liberal Party
• 24:58
  Speaker 15: that appears. So I think there's going to be a
• 25:01
  Speaker 15: lot of independence as a result that are neither Liberal
• 25:05
  Speaker 15: or one Nation, are local independence. So you know, yes,
• 25:08
  Speaker 15: it's a critical election, but the preference flowers will be
• 25:11
  Speaker 15: the key. And remember it is more indicative of the
• 25:15
  Speaker 15: federal election because you've got full preferential they're not an
• 25:19
  Speaker 15: optional preferential system. So it's going to be interesting to
• 25:21
  Speaker 15: see how those preferences split between those disgruntled labor voters,
• 25:25
  Speaker 15: whether they go to one nation or just come back
• 25:27
  Speaker 15: to labor through the Libs or somebody else.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wonder whether the huge part they're taking
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: out the labor vote now explains why they're not that
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: keen on being too close to the Liberals. But we
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: shall see. I think it'll be a different game after
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: the election results, depending on which way they go. But
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: all this camera and it's obscuring how badly the Albanezi
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: governments meanwhile traveling with the Reserve Bank this week, raising
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: interest rates again and even warning of a possible recession.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: And yet it still leads in the polls.
• 26:07
  Speaker 14: Well, it does for the moment, though, I think that
• 26:09
  Speaker 14: two party preferred result is getting pretty fragile because Labour's
• 26:12
  Speaker 14: primary is dropping back federally in those poles as well,
• 26:14
  Speaker 14: so it's hard to tell. But you're right, I mean,
• 26:16
  Speaker 14: you know, Albo lies nothing else but Paul Enhanson headlines,
• 26:20
  Speaker 14: Bengus Taylor headlines, even Matt Canaima headlines, because it's not
• 26:22
  Speaker 14: about Albow's failures. It's not about Albow being brought to
• 26:25
  Speaker 14: account by the voters of Australia. So he's very happy
• 26:28
  Speaker 14: for for anyone else to talk about anything else other
• 26:30
  Speaker 14: than he's management of the economy and where inflation's going
• 26:34
  Speaker 14: and where the cost of living is going for Australians.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Again, Michael Well.
• 26:40
  Speaker 15: I don't think the electric is stupid. I think that
• 26:42
  Speaker 15: Chalmers has been out there trying to blame what's going
• 26:45
  Speaker 15: on in Iran for the problems. Unfortunately, nobody's buying it,
• 26:48
  Speaker 15: not even the revert Reserve Bank governor. I mean, I
• 26:51
  Speaker 15: think she made it very clear that this is a
• 26:53
  Speaker 15: built in domestic problem primarily, and whilst there are going
• 26:57
  Speaker 15: to be implications clearly from what's going in on in
• 27:00
  Speaker 15: the war, are they going to see through that? But
• 27:02
  Speaker 15: the underlying inflation is the problem, and that comes back
• 27:06
  Speaker 15: to government spending and you know, there's no way out
• 27:09
  Speaker 15: of this. They're going to produce a budget, the federal
• 27:12
  Speaker 15: government and if they're as is being floated at the moment,
• 27:16
  Speaker 15: focusing on things like capital gains tax and negative gearing,
• 27:20
  Speaker 15: they're all taxing measures, and they're also taxing measures that
• 27:23
  Speaker 15: take a long time to deliver the revenue. It does
• 27:26
  Speaker 15: nothing to mitigate the spending. And you hear nothing about
• 27:30
  Speaker 15: you know, the reform of the ndis it's required, you know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 15: getting rid of some of the labor market regulations that's
• 27:36
  Speaker 15: stifling productivity. None of that has been floated before the budget.
• 27:39
  Speaker 15: So you've got to fear for the worst.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to pick up something Michael Kossa said
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: there Cameron that I think you know the way the
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: government is actually benefiting in one way from the war
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: and the fuel crisis. Fuel but it's actually fuel panic
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: in that it is taking attention away. It is saying, oh, well,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: look it's the war, it's not our mismanagement. In fact,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the premise today announced there will be a National Cabinet
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: meeting including the States tomorrow to fix this fuel crisis.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Here is tomorrow.
• 28:18
  Speaker 12: I will be convening the National Cabinet virtually, I'll be
• 28:23
  Speaker 12: from Hobart tomorrow and that will be about making sure
• 28:29
  Speaker 12: that we deal with the issues that Australia and indeed
• 28:32
  Speaker 12: the world is confronting with the issue of fuel security,
• 28:37
  Speaker 12: making sure that states and territories coordinate with the Commonwealth,
• 28:43
  Speaker 12: making sure as well that we spread best practice and
• 28:46
  Speaker 12: that we identify any issues which are there.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Cameron, a good and useful move or an example of
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: never let a crisis go to waste.
• 28:58
  Speaker 14: Look, it's it's more waffle, isn't it More talk? I mean,
• 29:01
  Speaker 14: you know this bloke's been in power for four years now, Andrew.
• 29:04
  Speaker 14: I mean, the fuel security problem for Australia, to Michael's point,
• 29:07
  Speaker 14: hasn't come over overnight.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Far from it.
• 29:09
  Speaker 14: Refineries have been closing, we haven't been tracking. We haven't
• 29:12
  Speaker 14: been exploring our oil and gas reserves. As Matt Canavan
• 29:14
  Speaker 14: said earlier. Now, we've failed as a nation to actually
• 29:16
  Speaker 14: look after our own fuel security.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: So this hasn't come about overnight.
• 29:19
  Speaker 14: This has been a long burn. And look, you know,
• 29:22
  Speaker 14: to Michael's point before, I mean, you're right, the punters
• 29:24
  Speaker 14: get it right. The voters know because they've lived to
• 29:27
  Speaker 14: the cost of living crisis already in their lives that
• 29:30
  Speaker 14: it's not forear and oil.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: It's not a run.
• 29:32
  Speaker 14: It's actually domestic inflation that's out of control because spending
• 29:35
  Speaker 14: is out of control with this federal government.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Michael, a useful move or a.
• 29:43
  Speaker 15: Distraction, complete distraction. There is no quick fix to this problem.
• 29:49
  Speaker 15: The quick fix was one that both governments are both
• 29:51
  Speaker 15: persuasions ignored. That is, doing what the International Energy Authority
• 29:55
  Speaker 15: argued for was keeping ninety days of reserves. Now we
• 29:58
  Speaker 15: have never had ninety days of resus. We've only had
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: thirty days. It appears that's the core of the short
• 30:04
  Speaker 15: term problem. But the long term problem comes back against
• 30:07
  Speaker 15: the policy failure in the energy sector. I mean, I
• 30:10
  Speaker 15: said before, I mean we've got colslein gas everywhere. We're
• 30:14
  Speaker 15: exploiting about five percent of that colsine gas and fracking
• 30:18
  Speaker 15: is banned in you know, four or five states and
• 30:21
  Speaker 15: discourage in other state. There's only coins and I think
• 30:24
  Speaker 15: that you can do it, but it's highly restricted. We
• 30:26
  Speaker 15: have more energy than we need to meet our domestic requirements,
• 30:31
  Speaker 15: but policies from both governments of persuasion governments has caused
• 30:35
  Speaker 15: this problem. And the other issue is, you know, gas
• 30:38
  Speaker 15: reservation policy. You know, you know, it's been an issue
• 30:43
  Speaker 15: for years, but nobody's stepped up to do it. Now
• 30:45
  Speaker 15: we face the crisis.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Cameron Milner, Michael Cossa, thank you very much to
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: you both. After the break, how journalists campaigning against the
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: war and amazing footage from pulling the campaign in Adelaide today.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: People who claimed she's racist should watch. I said earlier
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: in the show that it's seen many people now hate
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump so much that rather the US lost this
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: war against the terrorists sponsoring Iranian fundamentalist regime that massacres
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: tens of thousands of his own people in a single month.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Some even say it out loud, like form an SBS
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: news reader Mary costakides, it's truly astonishing. She writes, Iran.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: It's been the only country in the world to take
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: on the US, let alone, take on the US and
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Israel combined, and to be winning. For many people around
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: the world, this is a huge relief as they will
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: have prayed for this hegemony to come to an end. Unbelievable.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: But that's costakeides these days. I mean you remember she
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: was pictured at the front of the anti Israel protests
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: that the Sydney Harbor Bridge last year and a poster
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: of Ayatola coming he now blessedly dead, alongside others there
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: of the hard left, like the Greens Marrying Ferruki and
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Julian Masange. But the ABC also seems quite hostile. You
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: take ABC Melbourne presenter raph Epstein, who is Jewish but
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: seems to me to be going out of his way
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: to prove is the kind of jew that ABC left
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: us like, you know, against Israel, against Trump, against this war.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Here he is this morning peppering treasurer at Jim Charmers
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: with questions like this.
• 32:29
  Speaker 16: We are all now paying more for petrol because President
• 32:33
  Speaker 16: Trump and Israel decided to go to war.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Actually, Raf, we are paying more for petrol because of
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: panic buying, and that buying as that panic was caused
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: not by Donald Trump, but by Iran attacking the oil
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: fields of its neighbors and attacking oil tankers. Then there
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: was this also from Epstein this morning, claiming not to
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: understand this war at all?
• 33:01
  Speaker 16: Is it add all clear to you what the reason
• 33:03
  Speaker 16: for the war is because the justification shifts hour by hour.
• 33:08
  Speaker 16: How do you deal with a war and you don't
• 33:11
  Speaker 16: know why it is being fought?
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: And no raff Again, the justification for this war does
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: not change hour to hour. It is and always has been,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: to stop Iran from being a threat to the world,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: funding terrorists, working on a nuclear bomb, building so many
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: missiles that no country would have enough defenses against them,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: and more. How can a journalists pretend to be so confused?
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: And there was this thing last week Epstein choosing to
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: read out some stupid trolling by some obvious Trump hating
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: listener and put it as a serious question to Peter Lay,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: who's the former chief of Army, and then stating as
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: a fact something that is false or contestable, a claim
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: that this is illegal.
• 34:01
  Speaker 16: I might put Maza's text to you and tell me
• 34:04
  Speaker 16: if you agree or not. Australia is following a clown
• 34:07
  Speaker 16: into a circus. Do you agree with that assessment of
• 34:12
  Speaker 16: the war.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I don't agree with.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: That at all. And it's a pretty simplistic way to
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: talk about something that's really important. Mother. We are supporting
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: friends and allies in the Middle East against just a
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: horrible regime. To think that we might think that we
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: could allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon to continue
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: to behave the way that they have supporting terrorism throughout
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: the Middle East, but also more widely across the globe.
• 34:40
  Speaker 16: See is that enough of a reason to participate in
• 34:42
  Speaker 16: something that is illegal.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Well, we've yet to decide the legality of this.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Honestly, joining me is Rondina from Chief of the Spectator Australia,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: host of Outsiders every Sunday at nine am, host of
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: his own show on Friday's at seven pm. And in
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: the rear moment and he's got free he comes here
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Rowan Dean. Honestly, there is just so much hatred for
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Trump that I don't trust a lot of reporting on
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: this war. And then you get that kind of stupid
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: questioning of a former chief of Army from the supposedly
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: impartial ABC.
• 35:21
  Speaker 9: Well, there's a couple of things that need to be
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: said straight up, Andrew. The first is that we should
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: be defunding the ABC and the SPS, not because they're
• 35:27
  Speaker 9: so chronically biased, but because they employ such stupid people.
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: I mean, you would really have to look hard to
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: find people as stupid as the two journalists that you
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: just put up ignorance and just kind of unaware of
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: what is happening in the world, or so morally bankrupt
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: that they think that, you know, it's quite all right
• 35:45
  Speaker 9: to have a regime that goes around murdering women with
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: snipers if they happen to show a bit of hair
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: or lippy or whatever.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: So there's that.
• 35:53
  Speaker 9: But the second point is, Andrew, I kind of have
• 35:56
  Speaker 9: this idea that maybe somewhere in a hospital, the Machiaba Kameni,
• 36:03
  Speaker 9: the son of the last Ayatler, is sitting there when
• 36:06
  Speaker 9: he's not wondering what happened to his legs, he's sitting
• 36:09
  Speaker 9: there busily reading the ABC and the Sydney Morning Herald
• 36:12
  Speaker 9: and all the Australian media.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Which the Ruffians will have given him to cheer him up.
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: Because that, seriously, can anyone take this left wing Australian
• 36:21
  Speaker 9: approach seriously in any shape or form. The reality is
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: Donald Trump has done what needed to be done, as
• 36:29
  Speaker 9: you pointed out. But more importantly, we are in week
• 36:33
  Speaker 9: two of what is at least on the most optimistic
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: side of five or six week or probably several months.
• 36:42
  Speaker 9: We're in week two, a week the beginning of week three.
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: The reality is this is going to firstly, unequivocally, the
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: Americans will win this. There's no question about. The Iranian
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: navy has gone. Its armies, it's gone. Most of its
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: ballistic missiles have gone. Certainly its nuclear abilities have gone.
• 36:59
  Speaker 9: That's all been trash. The regime is basically you have
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: a few hundred thousand, whatever the number is, of irs,
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: of guards and thugs, basically Gestapo type thugs.
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: Who are armed.
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: That's the problem. The straits of homers will be sorted
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: out very very quickly and very shortly. The oil will
• 37:18
  Speaker 9: be flowing again. I suspect that carg Island will play
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: a key role. Donald Trump and Benjamin Ettna, who believe
• 37:25
  Speaker 9: in keeping their kind of secrets, you know, their tricks
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: up their sleeves before springing surprises on the enemy. Every
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: surprise they've strung sprung so far has been hugely successful.
• 37:36
  Speaker 9: Cargo Island, in my opinion, will be the key to it.
• 37:39
  Speaker 9: Once the Iranians have lost their money, along with every
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: other element of power, every arm, so every weapons they have,
• 37:47
  Speaker 9: the regime must and will collapse. It's only because there
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: are ninety million Iranians, the majority of whom want to
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: get rid of this regime. The problem is that the
• 37:58
  Speaker 9: guards are armed, and gradually the Israelis and the Americans
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: will be taking care of those guards. That's what's going
• 38:05
  Speaker 9: to happen.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: We shall see, we shall see now listen. Ron Chris
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Kenny had a fascinating report in the show today. He
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: followed Pauline Hanson on the street walk in Adelaide. It
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: was unbelievable the love that he found for there. And
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I wonder what Hanson haters in the media would think
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: of what he showed, having lazily damned Hansome for years
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: as a racist. So do wed up your time, but
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: here is just a snippet of what he found.
• 38:35
  Speaker 16: So how long you've been doing the store here?
• 38:39
  Speaker 17: So we're just setting up today here. This is a
• 38:41
  Speaker 17: poor day first year.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: But for me, yes, this is an issue. Was his festival.
• 38:46
  Speaker 17: This is a cultural and food festival. But apart from
• 38:49
  Speaker 17: that my business. I am doing it for since last
• 38:52
  Speaker 17: one year. When I landed here, I couldn't find Honestly,
• 38:55
  Speaker 17: I couldn't find.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: A job here.
• 38:56
  Speaker 17: To be honest, I had I have pharmaceuticals background and
• 38:59
  Speaker 17: other things. I can't find a job ap to get.
• 39:02
  Speaker 17: I started something off my own. I'm good at cooking,
• 39:04
  Speaker 17: that's fashion. And then they started.
• 39:06
  Speaker 9: Up good on you please, you're doing some for yours
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: now good.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: But you're doing something for trigued? What is this a
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: lady's day out?
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Who's voting in Adelaide?
• 39:15
  Speaker 11: Now you're.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Treated like a rock star.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: Everybody wants to get a photo with you, and most
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: of them have got kind words to say.
• 39:24
  Speaker 11: Chris.
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: They have.
• 39:25
  Speaker 15: People are are screaming up.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: All they want is hope.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: They seem to hope for the future and they want.
• 39:32
  Speaker 15: The country back.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I didn't have time to show all the edulation because
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of it. Chris Kenny summed it up
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: well there though, what would Hanson haters in the media
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: make of that?
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: Do you think rowing Well, exactly the same as they
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: make it Trump and they're wrong again and the Australian
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: people know they're wrong. I've been lucky and privileged to
• 39:52
  Speaker 9: spend time with Pauline also out in the streets and
• 39:55
  Speaker 9: have seen the love and affection Australians have for Pauline
• 39:58
  Speaker 9: Hansen is phenomenal. Black or white, man or woman, straight
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: or gay, of whatever religion, young and old, Conservative or labor.
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: She is loved by all sides of the Australian population
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: and public because she's authentic, because she's the real deal,
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: and what they're dealing with, they know they're not dealing
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: with some focus group driven, research driven individual. They're driven
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: by someone who will stick doggedly to what she believes in,
• 40:25
  Speaker 9: and so many people do believe absolutely in what she's saying.
• 40:29
  Speaker 9: Can I cheers and.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: It seems a friendly family face, you know, like a
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: family friend at a Christmas party has been coming every
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: year for decades in an era right now of so
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: much change, and I think people are responded to the familiarity.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Rowan Dean, thank you so much for your time. After
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: the break, the panel of Jemmy and Caroline coming up
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: just returned to Pauline Hanson for a moment. It's one
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: of these people whose enemies actually helped to make her
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: look even better, like those Adelaide protests have showed you
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: earlier who tried to intimidate her when she had a
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: coffee today in Adelaide, joining me a gem and Toonini
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: columnists and communications consultant Caroline and Russo, a commentator and
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: President of the West Australian Liberals. Gemma again, I have
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: to ask why protesters are the left tend to be
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: the nastiest, the most abusive, and the most intolerant. When
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I see behavior like that, my first instinct is not
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: to join them, but to stand up to them, in
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: this case, stand up for Hanson against that kind of monstering.
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, Andrew, they've got to be good at something,
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: don't they. They've got to be I've been tried. I mean,
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: I'm in full agreement with you, and I think objectively
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: the data is saying the same thing. Alians are flocking
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: in their hordes to one nation on a primary level.
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: Obviously we understand the nuances of polling day and politics
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: and preferences and all of that kind of thing, but objectively,
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: the majority of Australians are saying to both of the
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: main parties, not happy you're not delivering us what we need.
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: You're not speaking to us. You are letting our values
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: be compromised a whole range of things. I don't think
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: Ms Hansen is that thin skinned that she's going to
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: be bothered by a bunch of pasty face, you know,
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: feral Adeladians, you know, making twats of themselves at the
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: door of a cafe.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: But Carolyn, I know this is a tough one for you,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: you know, giving you a party position. Gemma always laughs
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: when I put it to you. A yields things like
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: tell you, tell us what you really think. But anyway,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: what does Hanson have? What is this X factor that
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: she has that so many liberal leaders now clearly don't.
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: Well And to the point that you, Emma made old
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: mate with the microphone there, I don't even think his
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: voice is broken. So I'm not sure that Pauline would
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: be too worried by him at all. And in fact
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: I think she, I think she probably I think she
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: probably takes some steal from that. What I will say
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: about Pauline is she's very good at delivering a concise
• 43:21
  Speaker 8: and direct message. But part of that, to Andrew is
• 43:26
  Speaker 8: that you know, with a small party like one Nation
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: and ten as tends to be the case, with minor parties.
• 43:33
  Speaker 8: You know, you do have that ability to probably say
• 43:37
  Speaker 8: and do things that you have the luxury of not
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: necessarily being accountable for when you're a party of government.
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: So you know, I know that.
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: And from the video that you showed earlier in the show,
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: you know that people look to Pauline for hope and
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: those sorts of things. But hope is one thing, but
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: you need to be able to deliver because that there,
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: hope has to crystalize into something tangible, and we haven't
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: seen that happen yet, and there probably hasn't been the
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: opportunity to do that yet. But that there is where
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: she really shifts from second gear into third gear, and
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: I think people will be looking to that. I think
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: people are disappointed all around with the political class. They
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: want to see delivery. So that there's the next hurdle
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: for her and let's see whether any circumstances come around
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: where she can actually do that.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: You're well, exactly, it's a hurdle she can only get
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: over if people give her power first to show her,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: to show them what she can do. I've mentioned before, Jemma,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: how the Sydney Bnadi Arts Festival has been stacked the
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: program has been stacked by it's a Muslim artistic director
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: with more than forty Palestinian, Arab and Muslim acts, plus
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: a range of sorted other people who hate Israel. Opening
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Night had the obvious result, the dj from the US
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: attacking the so called Zio Australian Epstein regime and leading
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: the chant, leading the crowd into chances supporting the so
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: called resistance to Israel and martyrs as well in the
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Middle East. And now one of the sponsor's PwC says
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: it's pulling its support. But I want to know why
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Federal Lance Minister Tony Burke has not pulled the nine
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars of federal government has given this. You
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: reckon even offered a single word of criticism. Why do
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: you reckon?
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: I've got a better chance of sitting up from this
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: chair and levitating to the ceiling and growing a set
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: of wings and fly into the distance over the Sydney
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: sky than Tony Burke has of intervening. He's the ultimate
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: bloke with no ticker, like the ultimate politician who stands
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: for nothing, does nothing whatever it takes. Typical labor view
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: of things like I mean, this is the thing. Good
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: on PwC for pulling their support. But I would say,
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: as somebody who deals in this space, if you are
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: sponsoring a major event to the tune of whatever they contributed,
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: and you were a brand like PwC, and you haven't
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: had eyes on the program and understood what constitutes that program,
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: what their previous comments or views have been on various things,
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: particularly in the environment that we're in in Australia right now.
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: If you haven't done that basic stuff, then I'm sorry,
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: it's on you. And the other thing I would say is,
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: you know, with the greatest of respect to the artist,
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: you know, good luck to her dressing like that in
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: downtown can yunis good luck that her dressing like that
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: in downtown Terehran. I mean, it's not a joke because
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: women are routinely subjugated, brutalized, rape, murdered. As we know,
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: Marsha Amini was murdered for not covering her hair. So
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: pray tell me, dj Haram, how do you reckon you're
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: going to go strutting your money maker down the main
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: street of Tehran. I mean, it's absolutely absurd.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Community.
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: The BNL should be taken to task. This is garbage
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: on what my taxpayers money back?
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, do you want your taxpayers money back? Carolyn? I
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: mean it always does hands out our money to this
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: and doesn't get it back.
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: No, exactly. And the simple fact of the matter is
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: is that this keeps happening over and over again again.
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: To the point in relation to PwC. You know, particularly
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: after some of the reputational damage that they've suffered recently,
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: you'd think that that there guys in risk management will
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: probably be a little more careful about what they get
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: themselves involved in. But similarly, into the arts community, when
• 47:47
  Speaker 8: you rely on this sort of sponsor sponsorship and you
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: rely on government grants, maybe don't invite a pack of
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: ferals to come to your event, because it becomes very,
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: very difficult to be able to manage this sort of thing.
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: And I was actually only speaking to someone a week
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: or so ago in relation to a literary prize and
• 48:09
  Speaker 8: the amount of work that goes on in the background
• 48:11
  Speaker 8: to try and hold it all together because they are
• 48:15
  Speaker 8: now so worried about, you know, someone going off piece
• 48:19
  Speaker 8: and it ending up on the front page. So I
• 48:21
  Speaker 8: think everyone just needs to tidy themselves up a little
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: bit and ultimately I'm fine for the taxpayer to fund
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: the arts. You know, as a general rule, I like
• 48:32
  Speaker 8: the arts. We need to be getting value for our money,
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: but we absolutely should not be propping up this sort
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: of It's garbage. It's not even art. It is just
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: absolutely before like, I'm sorry, no idea.
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: Who she is. I mean, she's just the giveaways in
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: the name of the act.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Jemetonini, Carolyn de Russo, Thank you very much to you both.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: That's it for me tonight. Coming up next, Sherry Markson
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: good Night,