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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show, adjusting
- 0:03Speaker 1: to Taliban rule in Afghanistan. Clarissa Ward, the journalist who
- 0:11Speaker 1: famously called the Taliban friendly, which everyone got mad about,
- 0:17Speaker 1: but they were being friendly. They were chanting death to America,
- 0:21Speaker 1: but they were chanting it in a fun way. And
- 0:24Speaker 1: then all the people jumped on her. They were like, oh,
- 0:27Speaker 1: CNN will describe any of America's enemies as friendly. It's like, hey,
- 0:34Speaker 1: you know, they were ebullient. They were happy. They had won.
- 0:41Speaker 1: There's no reason for them to not be friendly. They won.
- 0:44Speaker 1: The Taliban won. All these people that are like, no,
- 0:47Speaker 1: they didn't really win. They won. What do you call it?
- 0:51Speaker 1: We were... We were thrown out of the country. You know,
- 0:57Speaker 1: they threw us out. They waited 20 years of painstaking,
- 1:02Speaker 1: taking these little towns and villages that nobody gave a
- 1:05Speaker 1: fuck about, building their power base back. 20 years fighting
- 1:09Speaker 1: for Afghanistan. And they finally did it. And they're thrilled.
- 1:15Speaker 1: They're very happy. Which is why as they're chanting death
- 1:18Speaker 1: to America, there's something... They're friendly. There is a happiness.
- 1:24Speaker 1: But Clarissa Ward finally left the country. She was able
- 1:28Speaker 1: to leave on an evacuation flight. These flights at the
- 1:32Speaker 1: Afghan airport, I mean, this airport, I mean, it's worse
- 1:35Speaker 1: than LaGuardia. That's how bad it is over there. I mean,
- 1:43Speaker 1: it's really bad. And everyone's saying that we should... This
- 1:55Speaker 1: isn't the one you pay for. But this guy, now
- 1:59Speaker 1: this is sad. A 19-year-old Afghan footballer, this is like tragic,
- 2:04Speaker 1: was among those who fell from a USC-17 military aircraft
- 2:11Speaker 1: after rescuing people from Taliban-ruled region. This is the tragedy of...
- 2:18Speaker 1: this type of event when there's a coup. Um, and
- 2:22Speaker 1: you see it here and I don't know if you
- 2:24Speaker 1: can see that, but you see bodies falling from the
- 2:29Speaker 1: plane and it's fucking heartbreaking that this is what happened
- 2:36Speaker 1: when you have that general, that moron, uh, Millie, I
- 2:40Speaker 1: think is his name, who's going, I saw no indication. Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 2:44Speaker 1: I had no idea. We saw nothing. There was no
- 2:47Speaker 1: indication that the Taliban was taking over. We had no
- 2:50Speaker 1: idea this was going to happen. This is the same
- 2:53Speaker 1: guy that gave that speech a couple of months ago
- 2:55Speaker 1: where he's like, I want to learn why white people hate.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Remember that? That guy who was sitting there like he
- 3:01Speaker 1: was doing a monologue. You know, from a new Shonda
- 3:07Speaker 1: Rhimes project on Netflix. He was like, I want to
- 3:10Speaker 1: learn why white people hate. I want to know. Well,
- 3:15Speaker 1: how about you find out why the fucking country was
- 3:20Speaker 1: taken over by the Taliban? Isn't that your job? Shouldn't
- 3:24Speaker 1: you devote at least as much time to finding out
- 3:30Speaker 1: why Afghanistan is failing miserably as you do to wanting
- 3:35Speaker 1: to find out why white people hate your words? And
- 3:40Speaker 1: this is, you know, America has no credibility now. And
- 3:43Speaker 1: by the way, it really didn't have a ton of
- 3:45Speaker 1: credibility leading into this last couple of years. But now
- 3:50Speaker 1: we have none. Like imagine going into a country now
- 3:54Speaker 1: with a straight face and telling them like, we take
- 3:56Speaker 1: care of our people. Don't worry about it. We take
- 4:00Speaker 1: care of our people. If you work for us, you
- 4:03Speaker 1: help us. If you're a translator, if you help us
- 4:07Speaker 1: gather intelligence, when shit hits the fan, we've got your back.
- 4:12Speaker 1: We don't leave people. I mean, there's video evidence. There is,
- 4:18Speaker 1: you could, like, anyone they're telling that to should just
- 4:20Speaker 1: pull up a YouTube link and be like, actually, what
- 4:24Speaker 1: about this? You have this young, good-looking, 19-year-old football player
- 4:30Speaker 1: whose entire life is over because he trusted the United States.
- 4:36Speaker 1: That is what's tragic about it. This guy's entire life
- 4:40Speaker 1: is over because he trusted the United States. A member
- 4:44Speaker 1: of Afghanistan's national youth soccer team was among the people
- 4:48Speaker 1: who were killed as they tried desperately to cling to
- 4:50Speaker 1: a U.S. military plane evacuating people from Kabul. He was 17,
- 4:55Speaker 1: this guy. Jeez, I thought some say 19, some say 17. Monday,
- 4:59Speaker 1: a crowd of Afghans surged on the tarmac of the
- 5:02Speaker 1: international airport in the frantic scramble to escape a country
- 5:05Speaker 1: newly overrun by the Taliban. Anwari was one of hundreds
- 5:08Speaker 1: of people who wanted to leave the country and in
- 5:10Speaker 1: an incident fell off an American military plane and died.
- 5:14Speaker 1: The sports community of Afghanistan was in grief. The statement
- 5:18Speaker 1: said it wished the Zaki a place in heaven and
- 5:20Speaker 1: offered a prayer that God grant. I mean, this is
- 5:22Speaker 1: so fucking sad. And this is unfortunately what happens when
- 5:29Speaker 1: you trust the United States of America. I mean, there's
- 5:33Speaker 1: no other way to say it. I feel horrible for him.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Now I'm going to be a bit, I'm going to
- 5:43Speaker 1: be a little, and I, I might, it may come
- 5:49Speaker 1: off as insensitive, not about him. But I may, this
- 5:55Speaker 1: may read a bit callous. I'm less concerned with the
- 6:03Speaker 1: people who went there to do charity. Now, here's why.
- 6:09Speaker 1: This is real charity. Most people, when they do charity,
- 6:13Speaker 1: they like write a check and they go to some event,
- 6:17Speaker 1: you know, in Manhattan or Bel Air. They go to
- 6:21Speaker 1: somebody's mansion and they buy a $ 50, 000 dress and they
- 6:24Speaker 1: write a $ 25, 000 check and it is a social event, charity. True.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Philanthropy in cities like New York and places like LA
- 6:37Speaker 1: is how you rise up the ladder of the social
- 6:42Speaker 1: scene in that city. This is not that. This is
- 6:49Speaker 1: real charity. Real life. You are putting yourself in danger.
- 6:55Speaker 1: You're putting yourself at risk to help people. Nothing wrong
- 7:01Speaker 1: with that. But... Here we go. When things go wrong
- 7:08Speaker 1: as they have, this is when charity becomes even more real.
- 7:16Speaker 1: This no longer is a feel-good thing. Afghanistan's no longer
- 7:23Speaker 1: a place for white women to go find themselves and
- 7:27Speaker 1: just connect and feel and like, I just want to
- 7:31Speaker 1: get away from San Francisco for a while. I just
- 7:34Speaker 1: want to go. No, no, no, no, no. You're in
- 7:37Speaker 1: it now. You are now living in Afghanistan and listen,
- 7:45Speaker 1: Some charity, most charity, I would imagine is good people,
- 7:49Speaker 1: great people per se, helping other people. But there is
- 7:53Speaker 1: some charity that's a little cynical. There is some charity
- 7:59Speaker 1: where it's white people who want to like show the
- 8:03Speaker 1: world that they're a little different and they care, even
- 8:08Speaker 1: though do they? And not always white people, but primarily white.
- 8:13Speaker 1: And then they go to places like Afghanistan and they
- 8:16Speaker 1: do like, you know, whatever, whatever they're doing, you know,
- 8:19Speaker 1: you know, they, they distribute, um, you know, iPads to,
- 8:24Speaker 1: to the women and let them listen to call her daddy. Well,
- 8:27Speaker 1: that is now over. That is now over. Call her
- 8:30Speaker 1: daddy has been banned in Afghanistan. The Soho house Kabul
- 8:35Speaker 1: is closed. Okay. So now, yes. I mean, Ann Coulter said,
- 8:41Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, these Americans got to get evacuated from Kabul.
- 8:46Speaker 1: She goes, who the hell is in Kabul? But listen,
- 8:51Speaker 1: there are people there. There are good people there. No doubt.
- 8:54Speaker 1: There are people there who went to that country to
- 8:59Speaker 1: genuinely help women and people. But then there are people
- 9:04Speaker 1: there who were cynically exploiting a situation. And this happens
- 9:11Speaker 1: all the time. And some of these charities are CIA
- 9:16Speaker 1: front groups. We know that. Knowingly or unknowingly. And they know.
- 9:22Speaker 1: And some people are there. to genuinely help. And some
- 9:26Speaker 1: people are there because it's, you know, it's maybe more
- 9:30Speaker 1: about them and it's more about them. I've talked to people,
- 9:35Speaker 1: and I'm not just talking here. Everyone goes, you're just
- 9:38Speaker 1: talking with your fat mouth. No, I have spoken to
- 9:43Speaker 1: people that have gone to these countries under the guise
- 9:47Speaker 1: of being a savior, of helping people. And you know
- 9:51Speaker 1: what some of the... And I'm not speaking about only
- 9:54Speaker 1: the military, although I have spoken to members of the military,
- 9:57Speaker 1: but I'm talking about people that have worked in... the
- 10:00Speaker 1: capacity of charity. And you know what some of them
- 10:04Speaker 1: have told me? Some of them have said, you know,
- 10:08Speaker 1: going there and helping, I realized that the people of
- 10:13Speaker 1: the country did not want me there. And this is
- 10:20Speaker 1: a hard lesson to learn, but it is a lesson
- 10:22Speaker 1: to learn. They go, we were not culturally in sync. Yes,
- 10:27Speaker 1: there were things I did that helped them. They were
- 10:30Speaker 1: grateful for certain things. But overall, on the whole, it was,
- 10:38Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to say a wasted effort.
- 10:42Speaker 1: but it was perhaps a little in vain because some
- 10:46Speaker 1: of it is vanity. Some of it is, it's why
- 10:49Speaker 1: I didn't go over to Afghanistan and start teaching women
- 10:54Speaker 1: to read. Now people say to me, well, that sounds
- 11:00Speaker 1: like you don't care. I care. The problem is that
- 11:08Speaker 1: you're fighting against the ocean and the ocean is always
- 11:15Speaker 1: going to win. The waves are going to win. They're
- 11:16Speaker 1: going to knock you back down. And I believe there's
- 11:21Speaker 1: a lot of charity to be done in America. I know.
- 11:24Speaker 1: I don't know how I got that idea. But I'm
- 11:27Speaker 1: telling you, if you take a road trip through America,
- 11:31Speaker 1: you're going to be convinced, as I am, that there
- 11:34Speaker 1: are tons of people to help right here. Doesn't mean
- 11:38Speaker 1: that you shouldn't help people over there, but there's a
- 11:42Speaker 1: lot of people to be helped right here. But that's
- 11:45Speaker 1: not as glamorous. Let's be honest. That's not as sexy
- 11:49Speaker 1: to tell your friends that you went to Vassar with
- 11:51Speaker 1: that you're helping people in Ohio. You want to tell
- 11:54Speaker 1: them that you're helping people in Kabul. Let's be very honest.
- 11:58Speaker 1: And today is when you have to pay the piper.
- 12:02Speaker 1: You have to really be the thing that you want
- 12:05Speaker 1: to be. Truly, if you really want to be the
- 12:09Speaker 1: person who's like, yeah, I'm in Kabul right now, like
- 12:14Speaker 1: teaching people how to rad. Well, today's the day that
- 12:18Speaker 1: that just became real. That's all. You may have to
- 12:23Speaker 1: join the resistance. I want to read this thread. This
- 12:27Speaker 1: is a great thread, and we did a great episode
- 12:29Speaker 1: on the Patreon about this, because this era, which spanned
- 12:35Speaker 1: 20 years, my awakening into U.S. foreign policy maybe happened...
- 12:46Speaker 1: in the most meaningful way possible, with the onset of
- 12:51Speaker 1: the Afghanistan war, because I was in 11th grade and
- 12:54Speaker 1: all of a sudden things mattered in a way they
- 12:56Speaker 1: hadn't before. Friends of mine, their parents died in 9-11.
- 13:01Speaker 1: Friends of mine were joining the military and were becoming
- 13:04Speaker 1: Marines and things like that. The onset of the Afghan
- 13:08Speaker 1: war was when our country's foreign policy was more than
- 13:12Speaker 1: something that I looked at in, you know, a theoretical way.
- 13:18Speaker 1: This became real. And, um, I, when I was 17
- 13:23Speaker 1: and addicted to cocaine, I thought it was a great idea.
- 13:27Speaker 1: I thought all this cause I was very face value.
- 13:30Speaker 1: And when I read a Tom Friedman article in the
- 13:32Speaker 1: New York times and he was like, the world has
- 13:35Speaker 1: gone from interconnected to hyperconnect, you know, all these things
- 13:38Speaker 1: that mean nothing, but you're like, yeah, I'm smart. I'm smart.
- 13:43Speaker 1: And then Tom Friedman would write an article where he'd go,
- 13:45Speaker 1: you know, I saw a kid in an Osama bin
- 13:47Speaker 1: Laden shirt and a Yankees cap, and we need to
- 13:49Speaker 1: make sure he grows into the cap. And I'd go, yeah, yeah,
- 13:54Speaker 1: that's something he wrote. And I'd go, yeah, that's smart.
- 13:57Speaker 1: That's smart. And I believed, you know, that if we
- 14:01Speaker 1: went around the world and helped free these people, they
- 14:06Speaker 1: would love us again. I was on cocaine. I had
- 14:11Speaker 1: an excuse. I was a 17-year-old closeted cocaine addict from
- 14:16Speaker 1: Long Island whose emotions were completely out of whack with
- 14:20Speaker 1: his thoughts. I was just feeling things and not thinking.
- 14:25Speaker 1: I remember just going, yeah, like you'd sit on the
- 14:28Speaker 1: bus and you'd watch some... That was like the era
- 14:31Speaker 1: of like patriotic montages and, you know, the concert for
- 14:36Speaker 1: 9-11 and, you know, Bruce Springsteen and The Who and
- 14:39Speaker 1: all these people and... you know, it was a, it
- 14:41Speaker 1: was a big thing and it was a beautiful moment
- 14:43Speaker 1: for the country because we had just attacked ourself. And
- 14:47Speaker 1: then after that we had, you know, we launched into
- 14:50Speaker 1: this very kind of beautiful campaign of, of healing and,
- 14:55Speaker 1: you know, patriotism and, but it felt good and it
- 14:58Speaker 1: felt like this is right. And I remember I wanted
- 15:01Speaker 1: to join the military. I thought about it. I was
- 15:03Speaker 1: looking one day in the library, you know, I like
- 15:05Speaker 1: never went to class. I was in study hall in
- 15:07Speaker 1: the library and Looking at like requirements to join the
- 15:10Speaker 1: CIA because when you're young and something like that happens,
- 15:13Speaker 1: you go, I want to live a life of meaning
- 15:16Speaker 1: and purpose. And look at these dumb teachers. They don't
- 15:19Speaker 1: fucking do anything. And all these entertainers and celebrities and.
- 15:23Speaker 1: You know, all this fame and money, the two things
- 15:25Speaker 1: now I've realized are the only things that matter. But
- 15:28Speaker 1: back then I thought that what really mattered was honor
- 15:32Speaker 1: and valor and serving a purpose higher than yourself. God,
- 15:37Speaker 1: was I wrong. But I thought for a moment, a
- 15:40Speaker 1: brief moment, right after that happened, that actually life was
- 15:43Speaker 1: about helping other people. It was about agreeing that certain
- 15:47Speaker 1: things were right and certain things were wrong and going
- 15:50Speaker 1: to the places where wrong was being done and reversing
- 15:53Speaker 1: it and making it right, making the world a better place.
- 15:56Speaker 1: That's what I genuinely believed on cocaine in the library
- 16:01Speaker 1: of my high school. And I would, you know, say,
- 16:04Speaker 1: how do I get into the FBI? How do I
- 16:06Speaker 1: go and frame people? How do I get into the CIA?
- 16:10Speaker 1: How do I blackmail doctors to not give kids medicine
- 16:14Speaker 1: so that we can figure out a way for ExxonMobil
- 16:16Speaker 1: to do more efficient business? I didn't know. You see,
- 16:20Speaker 1: I thought the CIA was like a crack squad of
- 16:22Speaker 1: people that were like, there's a bomb on that bus.
- 16:25Speaker 1: They're going to kill babies. And the CIA would like
- 16:28Speaker 1: jump through the windows of the bus and get the
- 16:31Speaker 1: bomb and then like throw it in a field and
- 16:33Speaker 1: it would blow up. And then the bus driver would
- 16:35Speaker 1: be like, and he'd be an old black man, not
- 16:37Speaker 1: because he's racist, because my bus driver, Keith, who I
- 16:40Speaker 1: loved as an old black man. And he'd be like,
- 16:41Speaker 1: thank you, CIA. And he would just drive the kids
- 16:45Speaker 1: to the school. That's what I thought was happening. But
- 16:48Speaker 1: I was so wrong about that. I come to find
- 16:51Speaker 1: out after many years of reading books and rehab, I,
- 16:55Speaker 1: I found out that I was wrong. I was wrong.
- 16:59Speaker 1: I started to get control of my emotions, get control
- 17:02Speaker 1: of what was going on. But for a while there,
- 17:04Speaker 1: I didn't. I was just sitting in the library of
- 17:07Speaker 1: Holy Trinity High School, drugged up, stoned or coked out
- 17:12Speaker 1: and eating some really good meatball parm, chicken parm lunches, phenomenal,
- 17:17Speaker 1: really good. especially for high school, but really for anywhere. And, uh,
- 17:21Speaker 1: and the Friday bacon cheeseburger day. And then you would
- 17:24Speaker 1: just be stoned and eat. And then you would just
- 17:26Speaker 1: kind of stare at the computer and you would just go,
- 17:29Speaker 1: I want to live a life of meaning and intrigue
- 17:32Speaker 1: and purpose. And I, I didn't know anything. And I
- 17:37Speaker 1: remember I had friends of mine that became, uh, Marines.
- 17:40Speaker 1: I had friends of mine that went, uh, into the service.
- 17:45Speaker 1: And some of them served multiple tours. And I, I
- 17:49Speaker 1: visited a few of them, like, you know, down in
- 17:52Speaker 1: North Carolina, Camp Lejeune. And I, um, my voice is
- 17:57Speaker 1: starting to go. I got to be careful. I did
- 17:59Speaker 1: a show last night at the Vulcan gas company in Austin.
- 18:01Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun, but everybody was smoking
- 18:03Speaker 1: in the green room and it was like, it gets
- 18:04Speaker 1: my throat and I haven't smoked in two months. So
- 18:08Speaker 1: now this was somebody who I believed served. They did serve.
- 18:11Speaker 1: They were deployed there twice, once in 2018, once in
- 18:15Speaker 1: 2009 or 10. This is as painful and brutal an
- 18:20Speaker 1: assessment as you can read. Looking at all the life lost,
- 18:25Speaker 1: which is more important, but also the amount of money spent,
- 18:28Speaker 1: the resources diverted to this engagement, which again, we know
- 18:35Speaker 1: the cynical outlook. We covered on the Patreon, you know,
- 18:39Speaker 1: the chaos, the Pentagon losing all this money, the rare
- 18:44Speaker 1: earth minerals that are under Afghanistan, the pipeline deals, the
- 18:47Speaker 1: fucking poppy fields. We get it all. We don't know
- 18:51Speaker 1: the full extent of the pillaging and the things that
- 18:54Speaker 1: happened And we won't know the full extent of that
- 18:58Speaker 1: probably for years or until some real investigative journalism is done.
- 19:02Speaker 1: But this thread, this screed really sat with me because
- 19:06Speaker 1: I was like, God, it's tough to read this at
- 19:10Speaker 1: knowing what we know now. But it says, boy, howdy,
- 19:13Speaker 1: am I having a lot of feelings about Afghanistan today.
- 19:15Speaker 1: I was deployed there twice, once in 2008 and once
- 19:18Speaker 1: in 2009-10. It was already obvious that the Taliban would
- 19:23Speaker 1: sweep through the very instant we left, and here we
- 19:25Speaker 1: are today. I know how bad the Taliban is. I
- 19:30Speaker 1: know what they do to women and little boys. I
- 19:33Speaker 1: know what they're going to do to the interpreters and
- 19:35Speaker 1: the people who cooperated with. It's awful. It's bad. But
- 19:38Speaker 1: we are leaving, and all I feel is grim relief.
- 19:41Speaker 1: Afghanistan is a dusty, beige nightmare of a place full
- 19:44Speaker 1: of proud, brave people who did not want us fucking there.
- 19:49Speaker 1: And we called them Hajj. and worse, and they were
- 19:50Speaker 1: better than we were braver and stronger and smarter. I
- 19:53Speaker 1: remember going through the phone to the people we detained
- 19:55Speaker 1: and finding clip after clip of Bollywood musicals, women singing
- 19:59Speaker 1: in fields of flowers. Rarely did I find anything incriminating.
- 20:03Speaker 1: I remember finding propaganda footage cut together from the Soviet
- 20:06Speaker 1: invasion and our own operation enduring, enduring whatever. And laughing
- 20:12Speaker 1: about how stupid Afghans were not to know that we
- 20:14Speaker 1: weren't the Russians. And eventually I started realizing I was
- 20:17Speaker 1: the stupid one. I remember how every year the U.S.
- 20:21Speaker 1: would have to decide how to deal with the opium fields.
- 20:22Speaker 1: You could let them alone and then the Taliban would
- 20:24Speaker 1: shake the farmers down and use the money to buy weapons.
- 20:28Speaker 1: Or you could carpet bomb the fields and then the
- 20:30Speaker 1: farmers would join the Taliban. Or you could give the
- 20:34Speaker 1: farmers fertilizer as an incentive to grow wheat instead of
- 20:36Speaker 1: opium poppy. And the farmers would sell the fertilizer to
- 20:40Speaker 1: the Taliban who used it to make explosives for IEDs
- 20:43Speaker 1: that could destroy a million dollar MRAP, whatever it is,
- 20:47Speaker 1: and maim everyone inside. I remember we weren't allowed to
- 20:50Speaker 1: throw batteries away because people who worked on base would
- 20:53Speaker 1: go through the trash and collect hundreds of dead batteries,
- 20:55Speaker 1: wire them together so that they just had enough juice
- 20:58Speaker 1: for one charge and that charge to detonate an IED.
- 21:02Speaker 1: I remember the look on my roommate's face after she
- 21:04Speaker 1: got back from cutting the dead bodies of two soldiers
- 21:07Speaker 1: out of a Humvee that got blown up by an IED.
- 21:10Speaker 1: And I have always imagined that was made with fertilizer
- 21:13Speaker 1: from an opium farmer and detonated with 100 thrown out batteries.
- 21:17Speaker 1: I remembered an Afghan kid who worked in the DFAC cafeteria,
- 21:20Speaker 1: who we called Cowboy. Always wore this cowboy hat and
- 21:23Speaker 1: an I'm with Stupid t-shirt someone had given him, always
- 21:25Speaker 1: with a big smile, high school age. Cowboy was a
- 21:28Speaker 1: good student, and he wanted to go to college in America,
- 21:30Speaker 1: but there weren't colleges that took Afghans. The education system
- 21:33Speaker 1: was too shit. No program to help kids like him.
- 21:36Speaker 1: I looked. I wonder if he's dead now for serving
- 21:39Speaker 1: his food and dreaming of something different. But if Cowboy
- 21:42Speaker 1: is dead, then he died a long time ago. And
- 21:44Speaker 1: if Cowboy is dead, then it's our fault for going
- 21:46Speaker 1: in there in the first place, giving his family the
- 21:48Speaker 1: option of trusting us when we are the least trustworthy
- 21:51Speaker 1: people on the planet. We use people up and throw
- 21:54Speaker 1: them away like it's nothing. And now we're leaving, and
- 21:57Speaker 1: the predictable thing is happening. The Taliban is surging in
- 22:00Speaker 1: and taking it all back. They have what you can't
- 22:03Speaker 1: buy or train. They have patience and a bloody-mindedness that
- 22:05Speaker 1: warrants more respect than we ever gave them. I am
- 22:09Speaker 1: team to get the fuck out of Afghanistan, which as
- 22:11Speaker 1: a friend pointed out to me today has always been
- 22:13Speaker 1: team Taliban. It's team Taliban or team stay forever. There
- 22:18Speaker 1: is no third team. So I'm sitting here reading these
- 22:20Speaker 1: sad fucking tweets about the suffering in Afghanistan and the
- 22:22Speaker 1: horror of the encroaching Taliban and how awful it is
- 22:26Speaker 1: that this is happening. But I can't stop feeling this
- 22:28Speaker 1: grim happiness. Like finally, you fuckers. Finally, you get to
- 22:31Speaker 1: see it too. No more blown up soldiers. No more
- 22:34Speaker 1: Bollywood videos on phones whose owners are getting shipped to
- 22:36Speaker 1: God knows where. No more hypocrisy. No more pretending it
- 22:39Speaker 1: meant anything it didn't. It didn't mean a fucking thing. Wow.
- 22:44Speaker 1: What a thread. And it is crazy. But if you
- 22:49Speaker 1: remember the beginning of the Afghan war, we were just
- 22:52Speaker 1: sweeping people up. Some of them terrorists, some of them not.
- 22:56Speaker 1: And sending them to places like Guantanamo Bay, sending them
- 22:58Speaker 1: to Bagram, which I believe is in Afghanistan. It might
- 23:01Speaker 1: have been in Iraq. Sending them to places to, I
- 23:03Speaker 1: think it was in Afghanistan, Bagram Air Force Base. It's Afghanistan. Yes.
- 23:07Speaker 1: Sending them to places like the salt pit to be tortured.
- 23:11Speaker 1: Look that up. Look up the salt, Bagram salt. Yeah.
- 23:18Speaker 1: The salt pit was a black prison. Okay? Meaning that
- 23:23Speaker 1: it was a CIA black site for interrogation. It's located
- 23:27Speaker 1: north of Kabul and was the location of a brick
- 23:29Speaker 1: factory prior to the Afghanistan war. That's where we would
- 23:32Speaker 1: bring people and torture them. Because we were there to
- 23:36Speaker 1: help them. You see? We were there to help them
- 23:39Speaker 1: and we would bring them to this underground prison, this
- 23:43Speaker 1: brick factory here, and torture them mercilessly until they gave
- 23:48Speaker 1: us some type of information and people were tortured to
- 23:51Speaker 1: death and died there. And how do you think that
- 23:54Speaker 1: made the people in Afghanistan feel? Do you think we
- 23:57Speaker 1: lost a few hearts and minds with that, with the
- 24:01Speaker 1: salt pit? Do you think perhaps, yeah, ex-U.S. detainees describe
- 24:06Speaker 1: unreported CIA torture? You know, I mean, it's like... Jesus,
- 24:11Speaker 1: electric chair threats. Yes, yeah. Water torture, waterboarding, beatings. Threatened
- 24:18Speaker 1: with electric chair. They would put people in boxes and
- 24:20Speaker 1: put bugs in there. Let them crawl on them. I mean,
- 24:23Speaker 1: this was, again, this was how we were going to
- 24:27Speaker 1: break the spirit of these people. Well, guess what? It
- 24:29Speaker 1: didn't work. Didn't work. We lost this one and we lost.
- 24:35Speaker 1: And there's, there's no other way to, yes, we could
- 24:37Speaker 1: drop a bombs and nukes or whatever, but we lost
- 24:40Speaker 1: the ground game here. Big time. We didn't have the will,
- 24:43Speaker 1: nor should we have the will. We're fighting for Afghanistan. Um,
- 24:49Speaker 1: and this sucks. It sucks across the board. It sucks
- 24:53Speaker 1: for the Afghans. It thought that we're going to have
- 24:54Speaker 1: a different life. It sucks for the soldiers who died
- 24:58Speaker 1: and their deaths. Don't don't mean anything. It sucks for
- 25:02Speaker 1: the people that went over there to do some charity.
- 25:05Speaker 1: That sucks. If you're still there, it's, you know, it
- 25:09Speaker 1: really is going to test how much you believe. I mean,
- 25:14Speaker 1: you know, show the Afghan airport, show that plane leaving.
- 25:21Speaker 1: This is a very, this is a crazy scene to watch.
- 25:28Speaker 1: You see this C-17 plane. This is a wild video
- 25:36Speaker 1: to watch if you haven't seen it, which I'm sure
- 25:39Speaker 1: you have. And I'm telling you right now, there's a
- 25:45Speaker 1: few days here before, as I said on the Patreon,
- 25:47Speaker 1: we're going to get a media blackout. And once there's
- 25:49Speaker 1: a media blackout, it's pretty much, you know, we're pretty
- 25:55Speaker 1: much done. No one's going to care anymore. So now that,
- 25:59Speaker 1: look at this. Okay, Ben, this is the wrong video.
- 26:02Speaker 1: This is a scene of Austin, Texas. This is a
- 26:04Speaker 1: scene of people leaving Austin, Texas. Look at this. They're
- 26:09Speaker 1: all leaving. Look at this scene of people running down
- 26:14Speaker 1: South Congress to get out of Austin, Texas to go
- 26:19Speaker 1: back to a real city. That's the Austin airport. There's
- 26:25Speaker 1: all the comics that moved here. They thought they were
- 26:27Speaker 1: going to be on Joe Rogan's show every week. They
- 26:31Speaker 1: are going to, comics are going to leave Austin like
- 26:35Speaker 1: Afghani translators that worked with the Department of Defense. They
- 26:39Speaker 1: are going to get on planes so quickly and get
- 26:41Speaker 1: the fuck out of there. Because they all thought they
- 26:44Speaker 1: were coming down here to do Rogan's show. You know?
- 26:51Speaker 1: And then he had some guy that he like, you know,
- 26:54Speaker 1: hunted for Bigfoot wood for the ninth time. And all
- 26:58Speaker 1: these comics are sitting here in Austin going, wait a minute,
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- 31:29Speaker 1: article about Palm Beach. All roads lead to Mar-a-Lago inside
- 31:34Speaker 1: the fury and fantasy of Donald Trump's Florida. You've got
- 31:38Speaker 1: a fun crew down there. I mean, let's separate this
- 31:42Speaker 1: from ideology for a minute. I know the audience is
- 31:44Speaker 1: incapable of doing that. You know, I don't understand. It's
- 31:49Speaker 1: probably because they have nothing going on in their lives
- 31:52Speaker 1: that brings them any enjoyment. But separating ideology for a minute,
- 31:56Speaker 1: it's just a fun crew. Roger Stone, Tucker, Sean Hannity,
- 32:01Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Brad Parscale, the Trump
- 32:05Speaker 1: campaign manager who's now advising Caitlyn Jenner. The epicenter of
- 32:10Speaker 1: the American conservative movement has become Florida. It's become this
- 32:15Speaker 1: swamp of, you know, goons and scoundrels and grifters and
- 32:22Speaker 1: just all-around fun people. Mm-hmm. tabloid culture tabloid culture the
- 32:28Speaker 1: birthplace of the National Enquirer and Matt Drudge lives down
- 32:32Speaker 1: there the Drudge Report which I love and conservatism was
- 32:36Speaker 1: kept out of these mainstream institutions for a long time.
- 32:40Speaker 1: You know, a lot of the major papers in America
- 32:45Speaker 1: and television networks were cosmopolitan in the sense that they
- 32:50Speaker 1: were never hard left for sure. They were liberal. They
- 32:54Speaker 1: were decidedly liberal on a lot of the key values
- 32:57Speaker 1: that conservatives find themselves on the other side of. And
- 33:01Speaker 1: that's why a lot of the conservative personalities in media
- 33:06Speaker 1: are a bit flashier, because they're rappers, essentially. They talk shit.
- 33:15Speaker 1: They're not getting published in mainstream places, right? So they
- 33:18Speaker 1: had to take over alternative media, talk radio and the internet,
- 33:22Speaker 1: and people like Rush Limbaugh and Matt Drudge and Ann Coulter,
- 33:25Speaker 1: and they came... from outside of this system where you
- 33:31Speaker 1: played these respectability politics. And these guys like Christopher Ruddy,
- 33:35Speaker 1: who started Newsmax, and they're all down there in Palm Beach, Florida.
- 33:39Speaker 1: And it just seems like a lot of fun. It
- 33:42Speaker 1: seems like a lot of fun. And if you read
- 33:44Speaker 1: this Vanity Fair article, like the waiter who's serving Roger
- 33:49Speaker 1: Stone and Laura Loomer food, It goes like this. So
- 33:55Speaker 1: they're seated in a private room. A heavyset waiter comes in,
- 33:58Speaker 1: an immigrant from Yugoslavia named Mario, who introduces himself as
- 34:02Speaker 1: a diehard Republican. He's crestfallen. He sees Laura Loomer and
- 34:06Speaker 1: Roger Stone sitting there. And he goes, unbelievable what they
- 34:10Speaker 1: did to us. And Loomer goes, I know. And the
- 34:12Speaker 1: waiter goes, bunch of criminals. And Oliver Stone goes, not
- 34:15Speaker 1: over yet. And then Mario goes, that's right. I'm hoping.
- 34:18Speaker 1: We're all hoping. So they're keeping that hope alive down
- 34:24Speaker 1: there in Florida. It's like, you know the song at
- 34:27Speaker 1: the beginning of Portlandia, the dream of the 90s is
- 34:30Speaker 1: alive in Portland. That's what's going on. The dream of
- 34:35Speaker 1: Q is alive in Palm Beach. You know? And it's
- 34:41Speaker 1: just these people just kind of dancing around, eating steaks
- 34:44Speaker 1: and martinis at 3 p.m., thinking that Trump's going to
- 34:47Speaker 1: be reinstalled as president somehow. Fat Mario the waiter, Laura Loomer,
- 34:52Speaker 1: Ann Coulter, who then at the end of the article,
- 34:55Speaker 1: Ann Coulter and Matt Trudge go, we're leaving Florida, and
- 34:58Speaker 1: we're not telling anybody where we're going. And I guess
- 35:02Speaker 1: they're leaving because Trudge and I are both leaving Florida,
- 35:06Speaker 1: and we're not telling anyone where we're going this time. Um...
- 35:10Speaker 1: I guess because Coulter, she's fallen out of the Trump camp.
- 35:14Speaker 1: She's unhappy with Trump. But it's fun. Florida's always kind
- 35:18Speaker 1: of been a fun place. And I remember when we
- 35:21Speaker 1: snuck into the Breaker's Buffet.
- 35:23Speaker 2: Yes.
- 35:24Speaker 1: And there's something nice about Florida. There's something distinctly American
- 35:27Speaker 1: about lying your way into an all-you-can-eat Mother's Day buffet
- 35:32Speaker 1: without a mother. We had no mother. We honored no one.
- 35:36Speaker 1: It was just to sit there and feed ourselves on shellfish,
- 35:39Speaker 1: and it was great. And Segura was there, but we
- 35:41Speaker 1: didn't even see him. Didn't see him, yeah. But that's
- 35:45Speaker 1: Florida for you. It's a fun article in Vanity Fair
- 35:48Speaker 1: if you read it. And I mean, the thing is,
- 35:52Speaker 1: you know, Ben said I'd love to go to one
- 35:53Speaker 1: of these parties earlier. And you would and you wouldn't.
- 35:57Speaker 1: Because one thing I learned when I was debating people
- 36:02Speaker 1: that were to become people like this, right? a lot
- 36:05Speaker 1: of the kids that I was debating when I was
- 36:07Speaker 1: in college, and even though I was at a community college,
- 36:10Speaker 1: many of these people were going on to four-year schools,
- 36:13Speaker 1: and they were going to, I think one of them
- 36:16Speaker 1: worked for Mitt Romney for a while. The thing about
- 36:19Speaker 1: people who live, sleep, eat, and breathe politics is that
- 36:25Speaker 1: they're boring. The thing about politics is it obscures many
- 36:31Speaker 1: of the truths of life, which are Truly apolitical, right?
- 36:38Speaker 1: The deep human truths of life, which is what art
- 36:42Speaker 1: tries to get to, which is why art sucks now,
- 36:45Speaker 1: because we're fitting those truths or showcasing them in a
- 36:49Speaker 1: way that has to break down into this political binary.
- 36:52Speaker 1: It's not natural. But, and I'm not saying artists are
- 36:56Speaker 1: fun to be around either. Don't mistake me. But the
- 36:59Speaker 1: thing about people whose entire life their entire existence, the
- 37:04Speaker 1: way they interface with the world is all politics, is
- 37:09Speaker 1: deeply unfulfilling. It's deeply unfulfilling. And many of them know that.
- 37:18Speaker 1: Because there is a disconnect between what you're saying and
- 37:25Speaker 1: what's happening. And that's a chasm. Meaning you're not really
- 37:30Speaker 1: in the fight to change things as much as you're
- 37:36Speaker 1: in the fight to become famous or wealthy. And you're
- 37:42Speaker 1: really trying to establish yourself And then there's this movement
- 37:47Speaker 1: of people that you can kind of grab onto for
- 37:51Speaker 1: a minute and you could guide them or push them
- 37:54Speaker 1: in a certain way. But that's an unruly mob of
- 37:58Speaker 1: human beings. That's just going to go somewhere else. So
- 38:01Speaker 1: you got to keep track of them, keep hold of them.
- 38:03Speaker 1: It's not easy. And you know, Real change is very
- 38:08Speaker 1: difficult and it's not that glamorous. And the people that
- 38:12Speaker 1: work to make real change, like real activists, lawyers and
- 38:15Speaker 1: doctors and people that give up lucrative careers to then
- 38:19Speaker 1: go help people on the street and actually help people
- 38:23Speaker 1: get elected to local government and change laws that affect
- 38:27Speaker 1: people's lives. That's very different than the pundit class who's
- 38:31Speaker 1: swilling gin martinis at 3 a.m. at the Breakers in
- 38:36Speaker 1: Palm Beach and talking about revolution and this is happening
- 38:40Speaker 1: and this is happening. And none of it's really happening.
- 38:43Speaker 1: That's the thing. I mean, it's not really happening. And
- 38:46Speaker 1: the people that do this kind of know that, but
- 38:49Speaker 1: they've given themselves over to it and their entire life
- 38:54Speaker 1: is politics. There's not much else there. And it's why
- 38:59Speaker 1: I decided to get out. You know, I thought I
- 39:01Speaker 1: wanted to be in that world. And I said, I
- 39:03Speaker 1: don't want to be in that world. I don't want
- 39:05Speaker 1: to have to have an idea or a thought and go,
- 39:07Speaker 1: wait a minute. Is this, is this something that my
- 39:12Speaker 1: enemies would say, or is this something my allies would say? And,
- 39:18Speaker 1: and then what? I didn't want to have to put
- 39:21Speaker 1: everything through that prism, but if I did, it does
- 39:25Speaker 1: seem fun to, do it in Palm Beach, Florida with
- 39:30Speaker 1: these lunatics. They seem a lot more fun than the
- 39:33Speaker 1: neoliberal Hampton set and the Brooklyn socialist set. These people
- 39:38Speaker 1: seem a lot more fun. If we're just going to
- 39:41Speaker 1: go off fun, if we're just going to go off fun,
- 39:46Speaker 1: martinis with these lunatics, I mean... The true answer is
- 39:51Speaker 1: none of the above. But if you had to, it
- 39:54Speaker 1: might be here. Hurricane heading to Long Island. Long Island
- 39:58Speaker 1: is very well with hurricanes. I remember after Hurricane Sandy,
- 40:02Speaker 1: people were sitting out on their lawn with rifles because
- 40:05Speaker 1: they were afraid of, quote, wandering gangs of minorities. So
- 40:10Speaker 1: Long Island really shines during natural disasters. People were going
- 40:15Speaker 1: around to rob each other's houses on Long Island. There
- 40:19Speaker 1: were people sitting in their driveways with weapons. And I'm
- 40:23Speaker 1: not saying that there wasn't some fuckery. I'm sure there was.
- 40:25Speaker 1: This is Hurricane Henry or Henri. It is strengthening. It
- 40:31Speaker 1: is expected to become a hurricane on Saturday. I'm really wondering...
- 40:43Speaker 1: I'm really wondering how bad this is going to be.
- 40:49Speaker 1: Now you got to remember that strengthens to a category one.
- 40:54Speaker 1: That's nothing. That's nothing. Nothing. Hurricane Sandy was the long Island.
- 41:02Speaker 1: It was the first time in a very long time
- 41:05Speaker 1: that long Island had really gone through a natural disaster. Um,
- 41:16Speaker 1: It destroyed 650,000 homes or damaged. It took years to
- 41:23Speaker 1: get back on their feet, these people. I knew Long
- 41:28Speaker 1: Island was finally back when insurance companies were calling people
- 41:33Speaker 1: and saying, we overpaid you. We gave you too much
- 41:36Speaker 1: money and you owe us money. And then people that
- 41:39Speaker 1: I knew from comedy, comedians in Long Island that didn't
- 41:41Speaker 1: have jobs, were working at those call centers, calling up
- 41:45Speaker 1: these elderly people who had finally just had a moment
- 41:48Speaker 1: of peace because their home had just been finished after
- 41:51Speaker 1: years and said, hey, Miss Marino, we overpaid you about $ 30, 000.
- 41:56Speaker 1: You owe us. What? You owe us money. The insurance company,
- 42:03Speaker 1: you better make good. What's going on? Ralph, they're saying
- 42:08Speaker 1: we owe them money. You better fucking pay, you old bitch.
- 42:12Speaker 1: So as soon as that started happening again and people
- 42:15Speaker 1: in Long Island started leaning into their character, I knew
- 42:19Speaker 1: that Long Island was going to be fine. But I
- 42:21Speaker 1: remember I was living in New York city when hurricane
- 42:24Speaker 1: Sandy happened and it damaged, uh, where I grew up.
- 42:28Speaker 1: I mean, it was underwater. The town I grew up
- 42:30Speaker 1: in was underwater. It was really, really bad. Um, Yeah,
- 42:36Speaker 1: this is photos from Island Park during Hurricane Sandy. It
- 42:42Speaker 1: was bad. People were without power. There's boats in people's yards.
- 42:48Speaker 1: Looters will be shot like that. There you go. That's beautiful.
- 42:54Speaker 1: But it did. It pushed people to the brink. And
- 42:56Speaker 1: I'm not... You know, I did not experience it, right?
- 43:00Speaker 1: I was in Manhattan. I never lost power. I was
- 43:03Speaker 1: living in midtown Manhattan. Some of Manhattan lost power downtown,
- 43:07Speaker 1: but not where I lived. And Hurricane Sandy, it was
- 43:11Speaker 1: real character building from Long Island. It really was. Long
- 43:14Speaker 1: Island used to be a racist place. After Hurricane Sandy,
- 43:20Speaker 1: Long Island used to be a place where people were
- 43:23Speaker 1: very paranoid about different races. Now, after Hurricane Sandy, it
- 43:29Speaker 1: really became a beautiful place where different types of people
- 43:35Speaker 1: understood and respected each other. But before that, can you
- 43:40Speaker 1: believe it was not that? And Long Island, it was tough.
- 43:47Speaker 1: And I remember talking to friends. And, of course, people
- 43:52Speaker 1: used Hurricane Sandy for years after that. As an excuse
- 43:57Speaker 1: for why their lives. It will be COVID too. You know,
- 44:02Speaker 1: you will, the biggest losers in your life, and they're
- 44:06Speaker 1: already doing it, but they'll do it more, will go,
- 44:10Speaker 1: I had so much going on. COVID. I was about
- 44:17Speaker 1: to do it. Do what? Everything. COVID. COVID. And that's
- 44:24Speaker 1: what Hurricane Sandy was. People like, I was doing, I was,
- 44:27Speaker 1: oh my God, Hurricane Sandy, and it fucked me for years. Years.
- 44:33Speaker 1: I couldn't get a job or go to school or anything.
- 44:35Speaker 1: I just had to sit in water for years and drink.
- 44:41Speaker 1: I just had to sit in disgusting water and drink
- 44:47Speaker 1: for seven years after Hurricane Sandy. And that's what's going
- 44:50Speaker 1: to happen with COVID too. On the other side of COVID,
- 44:54Speaker 1: people are going to go, yeah, you know, I was
- 44:57Speaker 1: going to go to college or I was going to
- 45:00Speaker 1: get that job. I was going to move. That's going
- 45:02Speaker 1: to be the big one. I was going to leave.
- 45:04Speaker 1: But because of COVID, I couldn't do it. And some
- 45:08Speaker 1: of those people will be correct, just like some of
- 45:11Speaker 1: the people in Long Island were being genuine when they
- 45:14Speaker 1: said that this fucked up their plans. But then there
- 45:17Speaker 1: will be the vast majority of people that are, or
- 45:22Speaker 1: maybe not the vast majority, but far too many people
- 45:25Speaker 1: that are just lying about this. And you're going to
- 45:29Speaker 1: turn around. It'll be like 2026, and you'll go, so
- 45:31Speaker 1: wait a minute. Run this back again. You didn't go
- 45:42Speaker 1: to college in 2023 because of the coronavirus. Explain this.
- 45:51Speaker 1: And then they'll have to jump through hoops and explain
- 45:54Speaker 1: it and say like, oh, well, actually what happened was
- 45:57Speaker 1: my mother's friend died of COVID and we took in
- 46:02Speaker 1: her cat and that was more of a burden than
- 46:06Speaker 1: we had imagined. And then I thought I had it,
- 46:09Speaker 1: but I never did. And then we couldn't pay the
- 46:12Speaker 1: bills because my uncle had a bar and my boyfriend
- 46:17Speaker 1: got in a bar fight with a guy who may
- 46:19Speaker 1: have had COVID. And that was why he was crazy.
- 46:21Speaker 1: And my boyfriend split his head open in the parking lot.
- 46:24Speaker 1: We had to pay for my boyfriend to get out
- 46:27Speaker 1: of jail and then go to trial. And then he
- 46:29Speaker 1: did six months and six months. Well, he can't work.
- 46:31Speaker 1: And how are we going to feed this cat from
- 46:33Speaker 1: that lady who died of COVID? And you see what
- 46:35Speaker 1: I mean? COVID. You go, what? You see? Cause that's people,
- 46:40Speaker 1: Hurricane Sandy, they'll be, my car was destroyed in Hurricane Sandy.
- 46:44Speaker 1: And then I got another car and it was repossessed.
- 46:47Speaker 1: And it was taken by the state because they said
- 46:51Speaker 1: I was drunk, but I wasn't. And you go, does
- 46:54Speaker 1: this really have to do with the hurricane? Can you
- 46:57Speaker 1: draw a straight line from the hurricane to where you
- 47:02Speaker 1: are now? Draw a straight line from COVID to where
- 47:06Speaker 1: you are now. Now, many people will be able to.
- 47:08Speaker 1: They'll be like, I went in, I had 19 strokes.
- 47:10Speaker 1: And then you go, got it. Hey, got it. Got it.
- 47:17Speaker 1: And those people are going to barely be able to talk.
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- 51:27Speaker 1: Larry David screamed at Alan Dershowitz at a grocery store
- 51:31Speaker 1: because he's mad that he's friends with Donald Trump or
- 51:36Speaker 1: that he's in the Trump team. I saw you with
- 51:39Speaker 1: your arm around Mike Pompeo. It's disgusting. Dershowitz goes, he's
- 51:43Speaker 1: my former student in Harvard Law. I greet all of
- 51:46Speaker 1: my former students that way. I can't greet my former students. David,
- 51:49Speaker 1: it's disgusting. Your whole enclave, it's disgusting. You're disgusting. Then
- 51:53Speaker 1: Larry walks away. Alan takes off his t-shirt to reveal
- 51:55Speaker 1: another t-shirt that says, it's the Constitution, stupid. And then
- 51:59Speaker 1: Dershowitz drove off in an old dirty Volvo. I love,
- 52:02Speaker 1: by the way, that it wasn't that he's been accused
- 52:04Speaker 1: multiple times of rape by underage people. It's that he's
- 52:08Speaker 1: like a Republican. Yeah. That's really, if you want to
- 52:11Speaker 1: talk about Hollywood, that's the perfect encapsulation of Hollywood. You know?
- 52:17Speaker 1: It'd be like if Jeffrey Epstein was found out that
- 52:19Speaker 1: he was alive and Larry David bumped into him in
- 52:21Speaker 1: Martha's Vineyard, he'd be like, I can't believe you were
- 52:23Speaker 1: such good friends with Trump. I never knew that. By
- 52:29Speaker 1: the way, Dershowitz has been accused by this Virginia Dufresne
- 52:34Speaker 1: Or Guffrey, I don't know. Guffrey, yeah, Virginia Guffrey of
- 52:37Speaker 1: molesting her, right? For years. Multiple times? Yeah, seven times.
- 52:41Speaker 1: Seven times? Between the ages of 16 and 19. Well,
- 52:44Speaker 1: that's too much. Using some of the same language that
- 52:47Speaker 1: he had employed to describe Epstein's victims a decade earlier,
- 52:50Speaker 1: this is what Dershowitz called this woman. This is how
- 52:53Speaker 1: you know she's telling the truth. He called her a
- 52:55Speaker 1: serial liar, a prostitute, and a bad mother. I mean,
- 53:01Speaker 1: that sounds a bit personal to me. for someone you
- 53:04Speaker 1: didn't rape, Dersh. Can you believe that? Like if somebody
- 53:10Speaker 1: accused you of rape, wouldn't your first question be like, what, who, how, huh?
- 53:15Speaker 1: But he's like, she's a liar, prostitute and a bad mother.
- 53:19Speaker 1: It's like, well, it sounds like you're protesting a little
- 53:21Speaker 1: bit too much. In fact, I think that you know
- 53:24Speaker 1: this woman quite well and you may have done the
- 53:27Speaker 1: wrong thing to her. Then he said, who could not
- 53:30Speaker 1: be believed, quote, against somebody with an unscathed reputation like me.
- 53:33Speaker 1: Does he have an unscathed reputation? I don't know about that.
- 53:38Speaker 1: He insisted that Guffrey had, quote, made the whole thing
- 53:41Speaker 1: up out of whole cloth in search of, quote, a
- 53:43Speaker 1: big payday. When a TV reporter in Miami questioned his
- 53:47Speaker 1: characterization of Guffrey, a sex abuse victim, as, quote, a prostitute,
- 53:50Speaker 1: Dershowitz replied, she made her own decisions in life. He's
- 53:55Speaker 1: basically admitting he fucked her, but he's saying she's a prostitute.
- 53:59Speaker 1: Who cares? She made her own decisions, even though she
- 54:02Speaker 1: was underage. Yeah. So it was just very interesting. Larry
- 54:10Speaker 1: David kind of like bumped into him and Martha's Vineyard
- 54:12Speaker 1: and was like, hey, I cannot believe that you're a Republican.
- 54:17Speaker 1: Forget the friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. Forget the multiple accusations
- 54:22Speaker 1: of child rape. When two people, when he, but when,
- 54:27Speaker 1: when a Hollywood person, and I love Larry's brilliant comedian,
- 54:30Speaker 1: but it's just funny. It's like, you know, you are
- 54:32Speaker 1: in a little bit of a bubble, unless there's more
- 54:34Speaker 1: to this, which we didn't hear where he's, and maybe
- 54:36Speaker 1: that's part of why he's grossed out by Dersh. But like,
- 54:40Speaker 1: you know, you're in a little bit of a bubble
- 54:41Speaker 1: when somebody walked, you bump into an accused child rapist
- 54:45Speaker 1: on Martha's Vineyard. And your biggest problem with them is
- 54:49Speaker 1: that they're friends with the Trump team. That seems odd.
- 54:55Speaker 1: Larry's a knee-jerk radical, Dershowitz told Page Six. He takes
- 54:58Speaker 1: his politics from Hollywood. He doesn't read a lot. He
- 55:00Speaker 1: doesn't think a lot. It's typical of what happens now
- 55:03Speaker 1: on the vineyard, says Dershowitz. People who won't talk to
- 55:07Speaker 1: each other if they don't agree on their politics. Well,
- 55:09Speaker 1: what about the child rape? I love this. He goes,
- 55:18Speaker 1: it's the price of principle. This guy, he's been involved
- 55:24Speaker 1: in some very Very nefarious dealings. And he's probably done
- 55:29Speaker 1: some horrible things. And what's funny now is that he
- 55:35Speaker 1: relishes this. Every time somebody yells at him about being
- 55:39Speaker 1: in the Trump circle, it helps him. Because what they're
- 55:44Speaker 1: not yelling at him about is the credible accusations of
- 55:48Speaker 1: child rape that he's also a large part of. So
- 55:55Speaker 1: like every interview he does, he's like, I'm just, they
- 55:58Speaker 1: get mad at me because I believe in the constitution.
- 56:00Speaker 1: It's like, that's not Alan. You know, that's not it.
- 56:06Speaker 1: I just watched, by the way, the people versus OJ
- 56:08Speaker 1: Simpson again, because it's on Netflix. It's great. And he's
- 56:11Speaker 1: in that, not him, but an actor. This is funny.
- 56:16Speaker 1: That was a great, go back to that photo. It's
- 56:19Speaker 1: the noted lawyers, long controversial career in a Jeffrey Epstein,
- 56:22Speaker 1: OJ Simpson interview. Mike Tyson. Is that Limbaugh? I believe so, yeah.
- 56:29Speaker 1: Might be Limbaugh. It's Trump. I don't know. This is
- 56:32Speaker 1: a good article. Alan Dershowitz, the article's devil's advocate. I mean,
- 56:37Speaker 1: he's an amazing lawyer, right? I mean, we can't take
- 56:40Speaker 1: that away from him. Yeah, sure. He's a great lawyer.
- 56:43Speaker 1: He'll be representing the Taliban soon. The Taliban will have
- 56:47Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz, and he'll go, people are mad because I
- 56:50Speaker 1: represented the Taliban. That's why they're angry. He's going to
- 56:55Speaker 1: keep doing controversial things to take the heat off the
- 56:57Speaker 1: whole Epstein thing. If he was smart right now, he'd
- 57:00Speaker 1: be in Afghanistan defending the Taliban so that people, you know,
- 57:09Speaker 1: forget that he's been accused. And where is Ghislaine Maxwell's trial?
- 57:13Speaker 1: Just to check in on that piece of news. See
- 57:15Speaker 1: what's going on. Where is she? What's going on with Ghislaine?
- 57:20Speaker 1: How is this woman? Yeah, they're trying to get Prince Andrew. Yeah, trying.
- 57:26Speaker 1: The royal family may just hang him out to dry, huh?
- 57:29Speaker 1: I didn't think that was going to happen. But it's
- 57:31Speaker 1: very possible the royal family thought, Andrew, you know what?
- 57:35Speaker 1: We don't like you that much anyway. You're sort of odd.
- 57:38Speaker 1: You blink a lot. You don't sweat. Strange. So the
- 57:43Speaker 1: royal family prosecutors asked Judge to withhold the names of
- 57:47Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell's uncharged co-conspirators from her. Meaning, go down here,
- 57:54Speaker 1: this is interesting. Federal prosecutors urged a judge not to
- 57:57Speaker 1: force them to provide Ghislaine Maxwell a complete list of
- 58:01Speaker 1: her uncharged co-conspirators, urging that that disclosure risks, quote, harm
- 58:07Speaker 1: to the government from restricting its proof at trial. You
- 58:12Speaker 1: wonder if she's going to try to have them whacked?
- 58:16Speaker 1: Although it's not required to do so, the government can
- 58:18Speaker 1: state that as of the date of this letter, and
- 58:21Speaker 1: although the government may change its view as it prepares
- 58:23Speaker 1: for trial, it currently intends to introduce co-conspirator statements at
- 58:27Speaker 1: trial from only two individuals. Maxwell asked to learn their
- 58:33Speaker 1: identities earlier as one of the categories of information. Her
- 58:36Speaker 1: defense team requested to avoid a trial by ambush. She
- 58:39Speaker 1: wants to know. She goes, I have a right to
- 58:42Speaker 1: know who's diming on me in open court. I have
- 58:47Speaker 1: a right to know so that those people can get threatened.
- 58:52Speaker 1: What's going on? She goes, I should know who they are.
- 58:58Speaker 1: There is accordingly no significant risk that the defense will
- 59:01Speaker 1: be surprised at trial. by a profusion of co-conspirators in
- 59:05Speaker 1: their statements, even if the government identifies statements for use
- 59:08Speaker 1: at trial from additional co-conspirators. The letter says this court
- 59:12Speaker 1: has twice concluded that no bill of particulars is warranted
- 59:16Speaker 1: because the defendant has adequate information to prepare for trial
- 59:21Speaker 1: and avoid unfair surprise. Julie K. Brown at the Miami
- 59:26Speaker 1: Herald said, whose reporting has been widely credited with sparking
- 59:28Speaker 1: Epstein and Maxwell's prosecutions, opine that transparency has been getting
- 59:32Speaker 1: worse on the dockets. Her public records battles in court
- 59:35Speaker 1: led to the release of thousands of pages, which included
- 59:38Speaker 1: the names of prominent men allegedly implicated in Epstein's conspiracy.
- 59:42Speaker 1: Despite that flood of documents, courts remain under pressure to
- 59:46Speaker 1: keep more files under wraps and heavily redacted. So it'll
- 59:52Speaker 1: be interesting to see which... how they go. So push
- 59:57Speaker 1: to November now was July to November, right in the
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: height of the, uh, the Delta storm.
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it'll be interesting. I'm going to say that
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: Maxwell gets like, look at this. Just lane. Maxwell reportedly
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: sells house where alleged sex crimes occur. She's offloaded her
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: now notorious London home. 2.5 mil. The socialite acts of
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein had put her muse house in
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: the super exclusive Belgravia neighborhood on the market for 2.7 million.
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: Her spokesman first confirmed earlier this year it was finally
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: bought by a property developer for around 2.42 million. The
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: house is has long played a central role in her
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: sex ring scandal. Yeah. And this is where Prince Andrew
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: is photographed hugging his accuser when she was just 17. Well,
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: she dumped some real estate. She needs money like everything else.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: Like everybody else, she needs money. And I'm sure... Meanwhile,
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: Maxwell will be sad about the sale of her London, quote, refuge.
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: Because it held happy memories, her spokesman told the mail.
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: What's great is that these people forget like what they're
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: on trial for and they have to pretend that none
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: of it's real. So they have to like release statements
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: like that. Well, it was a refuge, darling. And there's
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: many happy memories there. So many happy memories that I
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: just will miss it. I'll miss sipping tea in the yard.
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: So many happy memories of drugged up children running around.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: You know, Prince Andrew chasing girls through the, through the hole,
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: just chasing them through the corridor. Um, yeah, she's still
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Well, our tour rolls on folks, uh, uh,
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: you know, assuming that I don't collapse from exhaustion. I'm
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: getting stronger every day. I did a 20 minutes last
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: night in, um, Austin, Texas. So we're at the Chicago
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: improv in Schaumburg and everyone's like, Oh, it's not Chicago.
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: It's the suburbs. Hey man, that's where the seats are. Right.
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: I'm already doing 10 fucking shows, which I shouldn't even
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: be doing. I'm not going to be doing 30 fucking
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: shows at Zany's. I need a bigger room. So Schomburg Improv,
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: there are some tickets left because we've opened all of
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: these up, I believe, at full cap. Some of them
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: say they're sold out. I don't know, but let's see.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: But there might be tickets. Try to figure it out.
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: September 9th, Corpus Christi, Texas. Mesquite Street Comedy. Okay. September
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: 23rd through the 25th, Baltimore, Maryland. October 7th through the 9th, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Wednesday,
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: October 20th through the 21st is Spokane, Washington. And then
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: there's a theater run that we're announcing too. The Beacon Theater, Thursday,
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: November 11th in New York. That's going to be big.
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: And of course, our dates in San Diego that got
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: rescheduled because of COVID. Um, which I said family emergency,
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: but I knew, I knew I probably had COVID. So
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: I said it was a family emergency. And then I
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: finally got the test back and they're like, it's COVID. Um, uh,
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: but I was like, I can't go because it was
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: saying negative, but I'm like, there's no way. Um, San
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: Diego in December, but the beacon theater is going to
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: be the big one in New York. Stand up live podcast. Um,
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: it's really cool. Um, We've moved a lot of tickets already,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: and we're very excited about it. But all right, listen,
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: let me go drink some fucking water with lime to
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- 1:04:08Speaker 1: then the merch, we'll drop some new merch in December
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: around the holidays. We'll give you ample time for that.
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: We're not always trying to shove merch down your throat.
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: Fake business was awesome. People are happy with that seemingly. And,
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: you know, we're going to try to do something a
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: little different in December, something smaller, maybe one or two
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: items in December for those people that didn't grab the
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: fake business stuff or want some other stuff. The quality
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: of the last merch drop was really high. The, the
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: hoodies and everything like that. There was some really cool
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: stuff there. We're working on something that will have the
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: same quality. Perhaps we can bring down the price. That's
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: our hope in December because I know people are going
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: to be buying a lot of different things. Socks from
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: Cody Co or whatever. We just want to make sure
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: that everybody can... We love Cody. Buy everything from him.
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: We know you're spreading yourself out. We're going to try
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: to do something that is cost-effective. And I do want
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: to go to Afghanistan to do a benefit for the
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: Women's Foundation. The reason I'm not is because I get it.
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: You know? And I don't want to be left on
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: the tarmac in Kabul. Because that's... You got to really
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: assess why you're doing what you're doing. You have to really, truly...
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: Because everybody who does charity, real charity, should be prepared
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: to be left on the tarmac in Kabul. It shouldn't
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: just be some dinner party in the Hamptons. You should
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: actually have to put your money where your mouth is
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: and go to Kabul. And it's not the worst thing. Listen,
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: a lot of those women that went over there, men, whoever,
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: this will be a very interesting part of your life.
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: I truly believe that. I believe it will be an
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: interesting part of your life. And I don't think that
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: you should necessarily look at it as something negative. I
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: think you should look at it as a, as a
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: positive development, you know, because, you know, this is the
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: way it is now. And, you know, that's the thing. Like,
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: you know, the Taliban is the real version of the
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: fascism that you people constantly moan about being here. You know,
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: our fascists are inept. They're incapable. They're drinking martinis in Florida.
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: They can't oppress you that much, although they'd love to perhaps.
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: But the Taliban can, they like have a real singular
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: focus on creating a society that is sufficiently religious. And
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: they're going to do that. And I hope everyone gets out.
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: I hope all the translators get out. I hope all
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: the people that were there to do charity get out.
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: But that seems unrealistic right now because you trusted the
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: United States and you went to do a good thing.
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: But sometimes the price of doing a good thing is
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: seeing it through. And now you're going to have to
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: see it through. I would suggest go the other way.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: If you are there to work for a woman's charity
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: right now, go hard the other way. I'm talking Burka,
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: start whipping women in the street. You're going to need
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: to kind of, you are going to need. to figure
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: out how to ingratiate yourself with the leadership so if
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: you were a translator and you could delete your history
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: so they don't know who you are you got to
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: be the behander wouldn't that be great if you went
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: over to afghanistan to help and now you're the behander
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: you just be handing thieves or people that maybe aren't
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: thieves and you go you know i came over here
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: i was working uh I was working with a, you know,
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: a teach Afghani children about capitalism thing. And we were
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: going to have Gary Vee come over and do a talk.
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: It was great. We came over with a, you know,
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: teach Afghanis about investment, teach Afghans about investment. And we
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: were teaching students how to be hustlers and grinders and
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: start their own energy drink company. But that all went bad.
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: I couldn't get out. And now I'm the behinder. And
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: I just lob people's hands off and I throw them
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: in a bucket. You know? It's a different hustle. It's
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: a different grind. But ultimately, it's the same thing, right?
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: Isn't life simple? Can't you just enjoy the simplicity of life?
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: I say this to all the women there now that
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: we're Americans or whatever and all the people that are trapped.
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: Can't you just enjoy a simplified life? Maybe you don't
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: need Starbucks. Just enjoy a simplified life. Enjoy the simple
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: pleasures of theocratic fascism, the real kind. Yes, it's going
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: to suck for a little bit, but adjustments are tough.
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: Change is never easy. It's never easy. I feel like them.
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: Standing on the tarmac at fucking, what's this airport called? Oh,
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: in Kabul? No, in Austin. Oh, Austin Bergstrom? Yeah. Standing
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: on the tarmac at Austin Bergstrom waiting to leave, which
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: I'm leaving in a few months, I have a similar feeling.
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: A similar feeling. I'm one of the last ones out.
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: I'm going to be one of the last ones out.
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: And as I look out.
- 1:10:04Speaker 2: At the plane and I see people falling off it
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: and I see just people running around with burkas, eating brisket,
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: performing at comedy clubs that aren't comedy clubs.
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: You know, as I look at all those damned, doomed
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: people just running through the drunken melee, you know, I'm
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: going to say to myself, we never should have invaded.
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: We never should have invaded. Places have cultures and those
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: cultures matter and they're resilient. And the Austin, they're going
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: to take it back. They're going to take it back
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: from Joe Rogan and Elon Musk. Those drunken, savage animals,
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: those complete failures, those thoughtless nothings are going to come back,
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: and it may take them 20 years. I imagine it'll
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: take them a lot less than that. They're going to
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: float on their rafts in that beer piss lake they
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: all like, and they're going to float right to shore,
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: and they're going to waddle off all coved up and
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: brown recluse bit, and they're going to just walk in
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: all drunk, full of taco farts, and they're going to go, eww.
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: My friend's got a show tonight. He's in a bed.
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: And you're going to look at these brainless zombies and go,
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: you know what? This place is theirs. It's theirs. It's
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: not the tech people and it's not Joe's and it's
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: not Elon's. It's none of that. It is for those
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: brainless zombies. We never should have invaded, but now we
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: can make it right. We can get out and let
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: them do what they're going to do because the Austin
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: Taliban will be back and better than ever.