Latest / ABJ / ABJ Podcast Ep 20 Zack Xander
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- 0:41Ladies and gentlemen, what is going on for another episode of
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- 2:24without further Ado, sorry, running so far behind, let's
- 2:27bring in our guest, the one. The only his name is like his
- 2:32intro, music says 14 times, Zach Xander.
- 2:37What's going on going on? Brother.
- 2:41Zach is a member of the Honor Society.
- 2:44I've had I think every single member of this stable now on the
- 2:51podcast, except one, although one all the is he is he is, he
- 2:55is on the list, I'm getting, I'm getting them on.
- 2:58I will figure it out. I promise crispy, you will be on
- 3:00the podcast and I'm sorry, it's just it's just Crazy crazy day
- 3:07here today. But yes, the Honor Society
- 3:10training out of the sanctuary and maybe we'll find some other
- 3:14stuff out about you as we go. But let's get into this my guy.
- 3:18How did you get into this insane thing we call professional
- 3:21wrestling? Oh man.
- 3:23So it's crazy or really it is I started and a lot of people
- 3:28don't realize this. I started in late 2019.
- 3:32I knew a guy. His name is Yankee Yankee good.
- 3:36His maker. He wrestles a lot of the New
- 3:38Jersey scene and him. And I, we got in touch and he
- 3:43brought me up into this place up in New York, which another area
- 3:47he wrestles out of, and he started training me for a little
- 3:50bit Yankee. Then introduce me to my very
- 3:55first book, pro gig, which was ECP W.
- 4:00It's was I can't remember the venue, exactly.
- 4:03But it was in Mid-Hudson New York.
- 4:07And I got to meet, you know guys like Gene Okerlund.
- 4:10So I got to meet guys like Captain emit pain, Love Jones.
- 4:13You know people you and I both know Anthony and I got to meet
- 4:18the crew up there and it was a reffing gig and I had so much
- 4:23fun a lot of great memories from there so I trained on and off a
- 4:27little bit with those guys until I worked a little bit over one
- 4:32training session in broadheads Dale got Go to ppw.
- 4:38I got to do a class with Ava ton of respect for him.
- 4:43I get a seminar with the Gallows.
- 4:45A lot of respect for you. I was a good seminar.
- 4:48Yeah. Oh my God.
- 4:49Yeah, it was real. I watched that one.
- 4:51I was I was there watched it? No.
- 4:53No kidding. Look at that.
- 4:55I was actually standing on the side with Mike Orlando.
- 4:58We watch that whole seminar together.
- 5:01Yeah. No kidding look.
- 5:02So I guess we've met before we even really met.
- 5:05Yeah. That's incredible.
- 5:07Wow, yeah, I remember my favorite part of that seminar is
- 5:11Doc Doc. Gallows treated it like a w
- 5:17seminar. So everyone is in the ring and
- 5:19everybody was doing like this, the basic stuff and Doc just
- 5:23looked around everybody and says shirts off.
- 5:25Let's go. And everyone's gonna remember,
- 5:27everybody was like, I'm not in good shape and he's like shirts
- 5:32off. Let's go.
- 5:33And then he kind of like not roast everybody.
- 5:35But kind of was like this, Is what this is what's going to
- 5:37happen. You're going to walk into a room
- 5:38and they're just going to make you immediately uncomfortable by
- 5:40taking you out of your comfort zone.
- 5:42And and he did like, it was a really cool eye-opening thing
- 5:45too because he said, listen, I've trained, I trained a never.
- 5:48I've been a part of every single company you could imagine.
- 5:51And this is what they're going to do when they, when you walk
- 5:54in the door. So I was it was very interesting
- 5:55to see from his perspective and kind of give people immediately
- 5:58that taste of. Here's what happens when you're
- 6:01on the bigger. Bigger leagues.
- 6:03Oh yeah, dot dot dot Gallo. Some, that was really
- 6:06incredible. I remember my one buddy arrived
- 6:10a little bit late. So at this point, we're all
- 6:12shirtless he gets in and I look at him and I said, hey, doc said
- 6:18shirts off, you gotta get it. Take your shirt off and he's
- 6:21like, what? And I said, sure tough.
- 6:25So he took his shirt off and then, you know, he did he did
- 6:29the thing in the room but, you know, he's Raining now actually
- 6:34over, but awful currently and very proud.
- 6:37He's a young kid. Yeah, we be 16 at the moment and
- 6:41I, we go way back, so, his family and I knew each other.
- 6:46So, you know, he's now in the business, but yeah, so I did one
- 6:52class with offer, it's a Samoan training, so it killed me water
- 6:57running. Yeah, a lot of lights, I
- 7:00couldn't feel my legs for a long time.
- 7:04But after that. Now I got then introduced to the
- 7:08sanctuary by Kyle D and the Fearless One.
- 7:12Ironically enough of all people. They introduced me to the
- 7:15sanctuary and I was like, well, this is close to home and this
- 7:18is closer than broadheads though.
- 7:20So let me see how I go there and how I like it.
- 7:23And see, you know, because I've never heard of this Sanctuary,
- 7:27this is my first time seeing it And I went there and I loved it.
- 7:31It was such an incredible feeling, you know, seeing
- 7:34everyone for the first time meeting John eating precious
- 7:38meeting Vince crispy. The Fearless One Kyle Libro down
- 7:42together. It was, it was overall really
- 7:46fun trip. And that small introduction just
- 7:50like yeah. Yeah.
- 7:52You know what? I think this.
- 7:53Where are you based out of? So I'm really in like, the way
- 7:59Looks bare area. Okay, so I'm, you know, like, I
- 8:04could go to Brock head still and it'll be like an hour drive.
- 8:07Or I can go to the sanctuary where it's like 30 to 40 minutes
- 8:12and you didn't know about, you didn't hear about like
- 8:14backbreakers or Now High Ground of time.
- 8:17So I've heard about backbreakers and backbreakers has always been
- 8:22something, you know, I've been considered but it was just, you
- 8:26know, like I think Word of Mouth.
- 8:29Mouth overall just led me there more.
- 8:32Yeah. I'm said of having to reach out
- 8:34and, you know, going that way about it.
- 8:38I think word-of-mouth convinced me.
- 8:42Yeah. Well, we're glad to have you in
- 8:45the sanctuary and you're part of it now, so, I'm so sorry.
- 8:51I'm, I'm off my game. So, your know, what is, what is
- 8:55the difference so far in your training experience from, you
- 8:58know, your place in New York to then broadheads Ville for your
- 9:01solo session and now, and now the sanctuary I think the
- 9:05difference really is. As much as I love to play some
- 9:11New York. It's New York was like two to
- 9:14two and a half hours away from me.
- 9:15So I wouldn't be there every week.
- 9:17I wouldn't be there constantly whereas you know, the sanctuary
- 9:22and they're a lot more, I'm seeing a lot more people.
- 9:26I'm getting more ears and getting more Minds.
- 9:29So there's more things to pick even like with these epw because
- 9:34I trained with them for a little bit to Jersey.
- 9:38They have a school out in Jersey.
- 9:40That was about two hours away from me and that wouldn't be an
- 9:42easy Drive BP W, PP W. They were, you know, like I
- 9:49said, there were an hour. There were a lot of good habits
- 9:51to talk, to some incredible minds, but like I said, overall,
- 9:57at the sanctuary, it was just closer and a ton autonomy.
- 10:01Fantastic months to pick from you.
- 10:03Got Powell Co you got, you know, gentlemen, you got Schultz
- 10:07Hawthorne and even the Honor Society kids, Billy Walker.
- 10:11Got a lot of Minds to pick from there.
- 10:14Yeah. The credible inspector, all of
- 10:17those guys. Great trainer.
- 10:18Yeah like I said it is tough man.
- 10:20I only I only ever travel for gigs so it is very difficult
- 10:24knowing what you're coming from to travel an hour and 30 minutes
- 10:27hour, 45 minutes to broadheads Ville.
- 10:29Then it is 30 minutes to go to up the road for me.
- 10:31Anyway, I up to Road in an office for school County as a
- 10:3530-minute Drive, which if people like, that's a long time and 30
- 10:38minutes is your normal commute. It to work every day if you live
- 10:41in our area, because it's just the way we travel, you
- 10:44Sanctuary. Feels like it's five minutes
- 10:46away. We're traveling to most places
- 10:48for me as well as is a quite a hike, you know, God driving it
- 10:52like Rio Grande Jersey, which is like a two and a half, three
- 10:55hour drive driving to this place in Jersey, which is three hours.
- 10:58And then yeah. And then you jump on the road
- 11:02and you're in Hazleton and 15 minutes and you're ready to go,
- 11:06you know. Yeah no, it's beard.
- 11:08I'm so. Used to traveling.
- 11:12I be like, oh, it's two hours away.
- 11:14That's not far. And then like every other
- 11:16person's like, what do you mean two hours is really far in?
- 11:18Like oh yeah, yeah, that's that's one thing about this
- 11:22businessman. If you want, you want to be in
- 11:24it, you better put miles on your car because you're going to be
- 11:26all over the place. I probably paid more money and
- 11:28tolls, and gas, Inlet last year than I probably care to admit
- 11:33Towles alone, told me. But hence why the patreon is a
- 11:38great way to support the AVG. No, joke.
- 11:40Yes, but so, how do you know you're starting your journey
- 11:45here at the sanctuary and you got what?
- 11:47When was your first time you actually have to step in the
- 11:49ring? Had a match and put something
- 11:50together. So I mean obviously training but
- 11:55like the very first film product and I got to step in the ring,
- 11:59put something together. Well actually, let me tell the
- 12:02training story, first the very first time John look outside
- 12:07their troske and you know, he asked me about my Background and
- 12:11came from and all this other things.
- 12:14And you know, I told him the story that I mentioned to you
- 12:17and I got in there. He said.
- 12:20All right, I'm gonna give you my guy.
- 12:23One of my top students and it's Torres.
- 12:26He's gonna hem and Zack. You guys are going to wrestle
- 12:29put on a five-minute match and we did and it wasn't great but
- 12:35you know, we put it on. We got through John, sat me
- 12:38down, talk to me about my credits.
- 12:39As I was in that stuff and he offered me to come back, which I
- 12:44did the very first show that I wrestled for was the Stampede as
- 12:50you. And I both, you know, very
- 12:52famously. Remember a lot of names were at
- 12:54that show. Adina steel.
- 12:57Let me see. Dina only because adina's
- 12:59relevant right now is just the first one.
- 13:01I could think of edenic it. Billy Mike, Riley Crow.
- 13:08Trying to think is, there are so many people there are in Roxas.
- 13:12That's when I could think of believe Tyrant was in that.
- 13:15Yeah, tired, you know, there's dudes, I want to learn from
- 13:18Tyrant right there. Both of them.
- 13:21Yeah, both of them. So so yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
- 13:29Step in there with some big names.
- 13:31What was that experience like you know lock love getting in
- 13:33that situation. It was really fun.
- 13:37Getting the go, there above average, Joe Scott.
- 13:40I got to wrestle him in that Stampede for a little bit too
- 13:44but a lot of great names, a lot of fun talents.
- 13:47So many Minds to pick from like, hey, this is what, you know
- 13:51we're thinking to see what we're going to do.
- 13:53It's like awesome. Yeah, I'd love to learn that the
- 13:57Bristol. I and Marcus Skyler.
- 14:01He was there too. Again a very fun mind to learn
- 14:04from and that that was the big thing for me.
- 14:09I just got to learn from a lot of people if you were able to
- 14:12tell someone who is listening to this, in your early career, what
- 14:15is what is your style of what you're trying to emulate or what
- 14:18are you trying to get out of your career?
- 14:21Like well if someone's going to see your match what were they
- 14:23expecting? You know, I'd say I'd say a very
- 14:28quick style, I would consider myself a very hybrid style
- 14:31wrestler. So we do know that a technician
- 14:35or technical, I do know a little bit of Lucha Libre I you know
- 14:40I'm very quick. I'm very flying or high-flying
- 14:42them very fast paced recently actually just this past weekend
- 14:48I wrestled at a promotion called Delta wrestling Alliance and I
- 14:52wrestled in a championship title match.
- 14:54H and I probably hit like the longest elbow in the corner that
- 14:59I've ever hit. I jump from about more than
- 15:02halfway in the ring and I connected fully on that elbow
- 15:08which I was very proud of. And I'm not trying to, you know,
- 15:11boast about myself but like cool.
- 15:14Cool, cool. Small arms, big elbow but I
- 15:19couldn't, I couldn't, I always thought to myself, like, what if
- 15:22you were a really small Like key guy didn't have the mass or the
- 15:27weight and your there was like well you're going to be the high
- 15:30flyer and you're like oh I don't like heights.
- 15:35Oh no this is a journey. Like well honestly I used a bump
- 15:39in kid, that's going to be your gimmick.
- 15:41You're going to be bumps honestly.
- 15:43No, I've always, I've always thought of that.
- 15:45I was like you know it's a pretty weird.
- 15:47I better go start reading some other costumes.
- 15:50Yeah, better get better. Break your fear Heights real
- 15:52quick. Honestly, what would you say?
- 15:55Some of your challenges are as a professional wrestler.
- 15:58Something that you know you realize maybe your shortcomings
- 16:00that you're trying to work on to get better at my size my size
- 16:04hands down. That's the first big thing I
- 16:08need to get bigger and that is something that I've always
- 16:11pushed on myself sighs. I'm not going to say Size
- 16:15Doesn't Matter wrestling, but in a sense, it does, I'm going to
- 16:19be honest with you, I am 145 pounds.
- 16:24Not the smallest. It is still plenty of that your
- 16:27hair. Oh, sorry without the hair now
- 16:33but like I'm 145 pounds. I do need to get bigger.
- 16:38I need to grow more muscle and there has been issues with me
- 16:43growing muscle. But everyday I am fighting to
- 16:46get that muscle. Ironically enough.
- 16:48You had when you had bent on the podcast, I want to tell this
- 16:52story when you had Vince on the podcast.
- 16:54Cast and you said and I appreciate you for saying this.
- 16:57He said either Zach Sanders going to be a kid who grows a
- 16:59lot of muscles or doesn't grow any.
- 17:02You said that while I was at the gym Like I was running the
- 17:06treadmill. Yes, exeter's either going to
- 17:08grow muscle or not and I'm like, oh, it's tough man, when you're
- 17:11young and you just don't have control your body or your
- 17:14metabolism, it happens. And when you're very young, so
- 17:19you don't have that spot in your body where your metabolism slows
- 17:22down, you can bulk up your probably every single time you
- 17:26run and every single time you're doing treadmill or cardio,
- 17:28you're probably hindering yourself, but you also need to
- 17:31the cardio because you need your gas tank for the wrestling ring.
- 17:33So it's Double-edged sword. Did I was in the same boat?
- 17:37I wasn't a professional wrestler going up, but I played a lot of
- 17:40basketball and every time I play the chord, I had to have an
- 17:43outside shot because I didn't have the body to take it to the
- 17:46paint and every single time I try to take it to the pain, I
- 17:48would just get bodied and I was just like this is this is not
- 17:51easy for me at the same time to I had a joint disorder that I
- 17:54was fighting through that. I probably should have been
- 17:56playing with and and I kept every time I would drive, I
- 18:00would just take beatings after beating after beat and I had all
- 18:02these like injuries that have to play through and I remember one
- 18:05summer, I was the same boat as you as like, 145 when I
- 18:07graduated high school, but I had nothing up top.
- 18:11I had a nice core and then I just was all legs.
- 18:13So, most I was scrawny on top of my legs were night.
- 18:16I got high bit, like thick legs, because I grew up playing
- 18:19soccer, and I was also a kicker and sucked in football.
- 18:24So I just remembered one summer. I worked at this Factory and it
- 18:26was hot and I, it was just insane.
- 18:29And I would bring a loaf of bread and a huge jar, peanut
- 18:32butter, and all I would eat all day long, which is peanut
- 18:34butter. Which is and I would take
- 18:36protein and I would just take everything I can to bulk up and
- 18:39I end up going from like 14 and they took me like a year and a
- 18:41half, but I went from 145 to 150 160 170 and I started leaning up
- 18:47a little bit and then I got hurt again and then and from it went
- 18:52from bulking up to then just getting overweight.
- 18:55So so there is hope you just going to have to.
- 18:58You're going to have to Triple up on everything.
- 19:00That's going to, you know, put those those pounds on and just
- 19:04get in the gym and tear. Get up, you know, I mean you got
- 19:06to really tear those muscles up and do what you got to do, but
- 19:08it's not easy. But it's like I said, also I
- 19:11didn't start doing it. Until I was in my I would say my
- 19:14late, my late 20s when I start doing it.
- 19:17Yeah, because I just couldn't, I couldn't gain weight now.
- 19:20Now, I can't lose. No, I get it.
- 19:24I get it now. It's definitely tough for me to
- 19:28get muscle. But, you know, I'm going to be
- 19:30honest with you. I'm going to keep at it.
- 19:31I'm going to keep going to the gym.
- 19:33I'm going to go full Boogie till and just do I can and I mean
- 19:36look at look at look at people like Jordan Oliver at one point
- 19:38in time he was the same way. Yeah size issue.
- 19:41And now and now he's kind of. He got up there, he got older,
- 19:44he got more mature. He's figured out his body.
- 19:46He's figured out in the gym and he's bigger.
- 19:50Look back at Ace. Ace was super scrawny at one
- 19:53point in his career, very tiny. And now he's now he's built like
- 19:57an NFL running back. You know what I mean?
- 19:58It's just, oh my God. Just get just takes time and
- 20:01dedication and I feel like you have the passion and the heart
- 20:04to do it, you know. I appreciate that.
- 20:06Not really didn't. Thank you.
- 20:07Yeah. So what are some goals you have
- 20:11for this upcoming season of The Sanctuary?
- 20:14Um, at the sanctuary really goals are just going to keep up
- 20:19when you step in the ring, with all right.
- 20:21Now I know I'm still, you know, to Fresh of him, too young to go
- 20:26for any title. So that's not sitting at the top
- 20:28of my mind at the moment right now.
- 20:30For me, it's about learning, it's about picking Brains, it's
- 20:33about getting to people's minds. It's about you know, seeing
- 20:38dudes like Jays Hawthorne getting in the ring with him
- 20:41because his knowledge, it's fair Impressive, Prince, Ahmed
- 20:46prints, you know, the torture artist, very, very intelligent,
- 20:51man, as well as Billy Walker again, you know, him and Billy.
- 20:56They're going to be termine together.
- 20:59But, you know, they're also bulking very wise and, you know,
- 21:03even getting better, getting stronger working out more with
- 21:06the Honor Society training harder.
- 21:08Get those guys just keeping at, you know, keeping at it.
- 21:12Keep doing what I'm doing and just Getting better Orton,
- 21:15Italy. Who what are some matches you
- 21:17had last year that stand out? That that you feel, you may like
- 21:21that. You felt maybe was that moment
- 21:22where everything clicked for you.
- 21:24Um, I think the big standout match for me and I know a lot of
- 21:29like the popular answer is Philly.
- 21:31Mike Swanson and though that match, you know, I do enjoy that
- 21:36match and I'm very grateful for the opportunity to wrestle
- 21:39Philly monk. It was the Bristol lion when I
- 21:43got in the ring with him just cuz just cause Again, I got to
- 21:47pick mines and I understood his psychology and being able to
- 21:52learn from him. And also my family was there to
- 21:55watch that match and being able to see their reaction and being
- 22:01able to understand what's going on in the ring.
- 22:04I got it at that point I was like I think I'm understanding
- 22:08things a little bit better here and I think I got a shot here.
- 22:13Yeah. You in Philly, Mike definitely
- 22:15had the Speed match, wherever it was like he had a little
- 22:17technicality and size-wise it matched up very well.
- 22:21But I think you and Bristol was a little different because he
- 22:23was a lot, he had more size on you and you can do a lot more.
- 22:25And you guys were able to, you know, get some get more stuff
- 22:29done because he can he can base and stuff for you as well and
- 22:32and, and take some high-flying stuff because of the size
- 22:35comparison. So yeah, I definitely think both
- 22:37those Master really good but like I said, Styles Clash, you
- 22:40know, I mean and I like I said, I think that the more of the
- 22:42size of thing is going to be beneficial to you right now like
- 22:45you wrestling, the bigger guy and letting it like essentially,
- 22:49the just the small verse big guy, I think is definitely going
- 22:51to be your advantage right now and you're in your career,
- 22:54younger career. Oh yeah for sure.
- 22:58A thousand and ten percent. So outside of this, thanks for
- 23:03what other promotions do you work for?
- 23:06All I'm. So I did work through this one
- 23:09promotion called RCW. Not Regional Championship
- 23:12wrestling but Renegade championship wrestling.
- 23:14At the time they had some issues going through.
- 23:19So you know, I wasn't they're not running at the moment I
- 23:24currently wrestle and and Champion for a promotion called
- 23:28Delta wrestling Alliance. I actually have the belt with
- 23:32me. Sorry, Kyle I gotta, you know,
- 23:33promote promote, haha. Um, but I Currently the DWI X
- 23:37Factor champion and I got to wrestle a lot of cool names.
- 23:42A lot of cool heads from there. Where do you end up on Deck?
- 23:47You're ready to go for that? Yeah, yeah, that's right.
- 23:49I had that, I keep that thing on.
- 23:51This is sitting on my lung, for the past hour.
- 23:54That was not, that was not planned at all.
- 23:56I would I swear to you? This has been again, organic and
- 23:58he just like, just pulled that out of nowhere.
- 24:04Like that seemed, it's so scripted for how quick you read
- 24:08title of Jesus, the reach for it was just like, oh, by the way, I
- 24:15I am the champion here. Yeah, he set me up.
- 24:19Thank you. Wow.
- 24:20All right. That was that was that was so
- 24:28funny anyway but yeah, I'm looking a debut for a couple new
- 24:34promotions as well. I can't necessarily say just
- 24:37what yet. There's I was just in North
- 24:41Carolina for private taping for a brand-new wrestling.
- 24:45It's coming up. I'm going to be going out to New
- 24:49Jersey in a couple weeks here and you know like I'm just
- 24:54trying to Branch out a little bit.
- 24:56Yeah I can confirm he took his title up for milkshakes.
- 25:00Yeah keep drinking the milk shakes you put those lay down
- 25:02that way. I will be the what you want but
- 25:06it'll weight is weight at this point.
- 25:09Well so who are some people that you emulate if when you like
- 25:14growing up being a wrestling fan?
- 25:15And that you watch on TV and you're like, that's that's,
- 25:18that's where I'm getting my inspiration from.
- 25:20That's where I'm driving myself for a lot of my moveset.
- 25:23You know, at first it was a.j. Styles.
- 25:29Truth be told I was very much so in the Casual Market I maybe
- 25:35even religiously watching at this point Styles, Osprey back
- 25:41then you know, General high-flyers Ricochet, you know,
- 25:45guys who In the Indian market, those big names in the market,
- 25:50But as time goes on, currently, I don't really think I'm trying
- 25:56to emulate anyone else's style. It's weird.
- 26:00I'm starting to find my own ground.
- 26:02Starting to find my own homecoming.
- 26:05And, you know, I think ultimately, it's just that this
- 26:09one about having fun, trying to figure out what I can do, see
- 26:12where I can push my body and see really how It could work in the
- 26:16room. Yeah.
- 26:19Now, there you go. The another one.
- 26:21I heart. The extremely great wrestler.
- 26:25So thank you to Pew. Thank you over.
- 26:29On the twins side, I think there are things are crowns.
- 26:32I'm not sure crazy what that is crazy.
- 26:34Ruler most like a crown, right? They look very strange.
- 26:39Little lean into that. Yeah.
- 26:43So going into the sanctuary this season.
- 26:46You know, for the Honor Society, what can you guys I know?
- 26:50H member kind of told me a little bit of what their plans
- 26:52are, what is, what is your goals?
- 26:55Ultimately for the Honor Society I think for us 2023 is going to
- 26:59be the year that we break out. I think it's going to be the
- 27:01year do something. I think it's going to be the
- 27:03year where we become something more 2022.
- 27:07We introduced ourselves 2023. It's time to get the gears
- 27:10going. I think we go out there.
- 27:12I think we do something big and really make ourselves known
- 27:16like, hey, Hazleton Pennsylvania.
- 27:18We are the Honor Society, Vince Torres crispy precious Xander.
- 27:24All of Us, we are going to do something.
- 27:27I don't know what it is, but 2023, we are going to do
- 27:31something. What is, what is the difference?
- 27:33How what has been the difference with you?
- 27:36Going from a situation of traveling, kind of solo and
- 27:40going to places? And and getting that, that
- 27:43experience, when it comes to like the New York, the New York
- 27:45place, and this and joining up with a group of guys, as like,
- 27:49the Honor Society and training in that fashion.
- 27:52I think it's great personally going solo again those two two
- 27:56and a half three, our car rides you know going by yourself.
- 28:00It could be very tired some but just going to be able to go like
- 28:0445 minutes or no I'm sorry. Half hour to 45 minutes away
- 28:07from home. Just to meet up with your
- 28:09friends, meet up with people that you call Brothers to be
- 28:13able to get in the ring to be able to work and really get
- 28:16better. I think I think to me that has
- 28:20made all the difference. It brings me up physically and
- 28:22it brings me up mentally and overall it's just a lot more
- 28:27fun. That way.
- 28:29Absolutely. Yeah.
- 28:30I we were talking before about let the young guys over at high
- 28:33ground and then you guys here at the sanctuary and it is, it is
- 28:37very nice from an outside perspective.
- 28:38To see you guys stick together and motivate each other help
- 28:41each other. Get better keep each other on
- 28:43track you know because easy to say this one days or so I got
- 28:46today is not the day for me. All right today I'm not feeling
- 28:48it, you know, to almost kind of like Everyone has those days at
- 28:52least. I know I do where I feel sorry
- 28:53for myself from like today's not the day for me I'm not growing
- 28:56like I want I don't I'm not having the the most positive day
- 28:59and then you have that reinforcements.
- 29:00Let's go, let's go, let's go stop being sorry, get the car.
- 29:04Let's just say it's do what you gotta do.
- 29:05So I think it is kind of nice to have that support system.
- 29:10I'm having those reinforcements there.
- 29:12It's really a great feeling because there are times where
- 29:17it's like, hey, like, I'm not feeling it like mentally.
- 29:20I I don't think I could bring myself there and, you know, it's
- 29:24not just me, it's quite a few of us to we just feel like, you
- 29:28know, hey, we're not feeling you, but they're not others.
- 29:31They'd be like now, let's do it. Like we need to, there's
- 29:34obviously something going on, let's get down.
- 29:36Let's talk about it and let's work it out.
- 29:40But, you know, like let's do something.
- 29:42Let's get better and of course at from there, we turn our
- 29:47sadness, whatever emotion. We're going through at the time
- 29:50and who are learning experience and knowledge on how to get
- 29:53better again, in the US testing things seeing what works for us?
- 29:57Was that what doesn't? So where can people find you on
- 30:04social media and how can they show support?
- 30:06Yeah, man. So you could find me on all
- 30:10sorts of social media. I am on Twitter, I am on YouTube
- 30:14Instagram and of course Facebook you can go ahead.
- 30:18You can follow me at Zack, God's enter one or zags and ra.one.
- 30:23I'm sorry. I'm still getting used to social
- 30:25handles. They are all linked below as
- 30:27well as if it gets her. Yes, they are all in the
- 30:30description. So let me be the first to pull
- 30:34up my own live stream real quick and Go to your description and
- 30:39yeah, go ahead. Exactly Xander.
- 30:42One Twitter's Zack Xander underscore one, YouTube.
- 30:48You could go ahead. Look up Zach Center.
- 30:50I'll be right there. Yeah.
- 30:53Is there a place people could buy merchandise or anything?
- 30:57Not at the moment. But plans are changing very,
- 31:01very soon. Hopefully we should.
- 31:06Yeah. I'll announce this here.
- 31:07You should be getting a pro wrestling to you store coming
- 31:10out. I've been approved for
- 31:12everything. I just need to get some more
- 31:13designs and then I'll have that all launch 10 available Okay,
- 31:20sure. Come on a Brother.
- 31:21Well, I do apologize. I do apologize.
- 31:24You know, we didn't get the full 45 minutes.
- 31:26Our out of this. I did have my tongue technical
- 31:28difficulties to start, but like I said, do this, door is always
- 31:31open and I'd love to have you very young in your career.
- 31:34Have a lot of potential to best place to see him.
- 31:36If you if you're not local to the area is definitely
- 31:39subscribing. Under, in my, if I run my
- 31:42YouTube channel, scroll down to the bottom.
- 31:44First off, you're going to see friends that I follow follow,
- 31:46all those people show them love and then you're going to see
- 31:48promotional work for the number. That one, there is the sanctuary
- 31:51and subscribe. Shows our look like they're
- 31:53coming sooner than later. Which is fingers crossed, the
- 31:57weather holds up and we can get rid of this cold weather and no
- 31:59more snow and all that other great stuff.
- 32:02And you can start seeing all this great action that you can
- 32:05anticipate at the sanctuary once again.
- 32:09Thank you so much, brother. I do apologize for all the
- 32:12issues I had today. My camera everything's going
- 32:14wrong. I didn't, you know, I just
- 32:16realized You know, it's all glory.
- 32:19I literally just like whole time.
- 32:21I was gone away. It is my microphone set up
- 32:23properly because I've Done Yet 30.
- 32:25I did 15 minutes in advance of a podcast where I wasn't using
- 32:28this microphone and that was embarrassing.
- 32:30So, I'm so sorry for everything has been going on.
- 32:33This is when this is what happens when you try to cram
- 32:35multiple podcasts at one day as well as live streams and
- 32:37everything else. So that is on me, I will
- 32:40definitely have you back very very soon and we will we will
- 32:43I'll give you your full a lot of time and we'll talk more about
- 32:46stuff of your ha. Hobbies and stuff like that.
- 32:49But Zach, thank you so much for your time.
- 32:52Make sure you check out your links below support this kid.
- 32:55He's young and his career, and we're going to, we're going to
- 32:58raise funds, and we're going to buy this kid all the steroids.
- 33:01He's going to be the most and you can listen, you can listen
- 33:06to me at the sanctuary. I go a little hard in the paint
- 33:09on the Honor Society so I'm not really a bad guy.
- 33:13I just sometimes play one on TV but let's, let's Close out with
- 33:18some great music by my boy Billy tray and we'll see you guys next
- 33:21time here at the ABJ podcast. Actually, before we even move on
- 33:24next. Next week we have two interviews
- 33:26going on. We have someone I don't know
- 33:28anything about it so I'm excited to learn a lot about them during
- 33:31the show and grow and and develop that friendship will
- 33:35Carol on the podcast this week for episode 21 and then 22 and
- 33:39rounding up the month of January and the beginning of this year,
- 33:43we're going to do later on that same day.
- 33:45Donnie Bambino coming from High Ground warmer backbreaker.
- 33:49So so great, great interviews. They're going into the month of
- 33:53February things are going to be a little different.
- 33:55We're going to go two days a week but it won't be the same
- 33:59day. Those aren't happening on more.
- 34:00It's going to be Tuesdays and Thursdays and they're going to
- 34:04vary between 2:00 and 5:00. So depending on what time time
- 34:08frame we can get in. We're going to do that.
- 34:10So a lot of great interviews on coming up for the February, I
- 34:13did announce a bunch of them, not going to go through them.
- 34:15All right now, Now but there's some there's some bangers coming
- 34:17up next month so I'm very very excited.
- 34:19We're going to let you guys don't go and if you want to jump
- 34:22over and hang out, we are doing a live stream in about soon.
- 34:25As I can end this. Hopefully nothing goes wrong.
- 34:28We will be live watching NXT for the watch along.
- 34:32So thank you guys so much. Here's some Billy tray, Zac once
- 34:36again, I appreciate you. My guy.
- 34:38I wish you the best in this career.
- 34:39This young in this, this crazy business that we call Pro
- 34:42Wrestling. And we'll talk to you guys next
- 34:44time on the a BJ. I guess there's some Converse
- 34:46kid.