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The Godfather’s Take with Dave Moody · Midwest Racing Central Today

• 0:11
  SPEAKER_01: Hi everybody, welcome into this week's edition of Midwest Racing Central.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_01: Today I'm Pete Bistoni and this is gonna be a treat.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna bring in a guy that I've had a chance to work with during my time at the Motor Racing Network.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: We've been colleagues at SiriusXM NASCAR radio for a lot of years.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_01: And like me, he's a short track guy at heart.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_01: We bring in the godfather, Dave Moody, this week here on Midwest Racing Central today.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_01: Dave, how are you doing, pal?
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'm great, Petey.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_01: How are you?
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm great.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: I really appreciate you doing this.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh again, you and I have uh a little bit of uh short track racing in our blood, I would say, going back to when we first started out for things.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: So I appreciate you giving us some time here.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'll ask you this to start our conversation.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: And it might be a little bit loaded question, but when I asked Dave Moody in 2026 what he sees in the short track world, what would your answer be, Dave, right now?
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: It would be a mixed bag, Pete.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of good out there and there's a lot of bad out there.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I know that this is a familiar drumbeat for you, but there are a lot of organizations out there across the country.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you know, the Northeast where I come from, certainly the Midwest where you come from.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_00: There are a lot of organizations out there trying to duplicate the effort, you know, three or four touring series doing the exact same thing with the exact same cars and sometimes with the exact same drivers, uh, for whatever the reason, unable or unwilling to work together, you know, to throw all their all their coins onto the table together.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so there's a lot of success out there.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of great racing, a lot of great short track racing, but you wonder what what could be if people could just get along and maybe cooperate a little better.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_01: So I'll I want to kind of accentuate the positive because we know there's a lot of trouble out there, both on the weekly level and some struggles, as you mentioned, on the regional side.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_01: But yet there are tracks that do very well.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: And obviously, one of them is where you cut your teeth at Thunder Road.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_01: What makes that racetrack, Dave, as successful and as especial as it is in your mind?
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they run the place, and this is not always the case for tracks around the country, as you well know.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: They run the place for the front gate instead of the back gate.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, they've raced on Thursday nights since 1961 when Ken Squire built the track.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_00: And it's an interesting story because they race on Thursday nights because Barrie, Vermont is a granite town.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_00: The granite quarries and monument manufacturing companies, and they all paid their employees on Thursday.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: Ken Squire, being the astute businessman that he was, wanted to get the first crack of those paychecks before the grocery stores took it all.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: So he raced on Thursday night.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: When you race on Thursday night, you got to run a tight show.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: The green flag goes in the air at seven o'clock, and they are done by 10, come hella high water, because when you race on a school night and a work night, if you're not done by about 10 o'clock, your crowd's going home, whether you're done or not.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: So obviously, you and I have sort of parallel backgrounds because I grew up and raced with the Deerie family at Rockford Speedway, and it was the same thing.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_01: Saturday night, that bomb went off at 7.09, and that trophy dash was rolling out, and everybody was on their way at 10 o'clock.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_01: Why do you think we're at a point right now where we don't see that, Dave?
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_01: When I've been to a lot of local tracks and I'm there till one o'clock in the morning.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to sit there that long for all those divisions.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I think that that goes back to what we touched on a minute ago, or I did, that that the promoters are so focused on the back gate.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: Racers don't care.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_00: They'll stay until two in the morning if that's what it takes.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, they'll spend any amount of money to race.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, the old joke, what will what will a racer spend to to to race?
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: He'll spend everything he has plus$20.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I had a conversation with a promoter here in the Carolinas four or five years ago now, and I won't use any names because it's not necessary, but um he talked about the fact that man, I just I can't get more than seven or eight hundred fans uh for anything other than just a super special event.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_00: I can't understand where the crowds have gone.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_00: And in the next sentence, he talked about, boy, my fans that they don't care if we race until three o'clock in the morning.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_00: The more we do, the better they like it.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I and I asked him, is it is it possible that racing until 1 a.m.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_00: is what's driven your fans away?
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, not at all.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_00: My fans love that.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, okay.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: I I I was doing a certain kind of math that he just wasn't doing.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_01: I I I I don't get that part of it.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: Let's circle back to sort of the touring and the national.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: And again, so we had Postman, Steve Postman is a few weeks ago.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: He's obviously tied into that whole sprint car world.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_01: I had Michael Rigsby from Flow Racing a couple weeks ago.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_01: He's tied into the dirt racing world.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_01: Our backgrounds are pavement stock car racing.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_01: Let's let's kind of talk about that.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: You're there in the southeast, and by far, I would think the cars tour, kind of what they've done there with Dale Jr.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: and Jeff Burton and Justin Marks and Kevin Harvick.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: How do you feel like that's kind of taken off in terms of the late model stock car world down there in the southeast, Dave?
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: They've done a tremendous job, Pete.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_00: And and they have become the cars tour and late model stock racing here in the southeast has become what super late model racing in the Midwest used to be with ASA and ARTGO.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: It was the most popular step toward the big time, where you know, if you were Rusty Wallace or you were Dick Trickle or Alan Kowicki, and we can make a long list, uh, and you were winning in ASA and ArtGo, you were getting looked at by NASCAR team owners and a possibility of driving their cars and going to the big time.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: That's where the cars tour has become now.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, in my opinion, they have probably the most successful touring series in the country.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: They've got national exposure.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, their their drivers, again, are getting opportunities in the big time.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_00: Not all as well, in my opinion.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know that they've had a positive impact on weekly late model stock racing in the Southeast, because quite honestly, the the big dogs in late model stock competition have all gone touring and they're not there on Friday or Saturday night at their local short track anymore.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I know when they first founded the Cars Tour, that was one of their major concerns, and they were very committed that they were going to be good for local racing and not do anything to harm them.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure they've been able to make that happen as well as they had hoped that they could.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_01: Is there any concern in your mind when I see schedules and they're going down to the Freedom Factory in Florida, getting a little bit away from being in that nucleus there?
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_01: Because even though you're on the tour, you know how expensive it is to travel.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think they should be a little more concentrated, or do you think maybe now the time is right to expand that tour, Dave?
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's kind of like penicillin, Pete.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: In low doses, it can be good for you.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: And and obviously, you know, taking the car's tour to the Freedom Factory in February or whenever they do it, you know, pre-season, that'll be a big visibility deal.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: They'll sell the place out.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_00: It'll be in terms of publicity and notoriety and media attention, it'll be a win for all parties.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think when you get into a steady diet of that and you go from being a local slash regional series to being an east of the Mississippi series, that changes the equation, obviously, in terms of the dollars and cents and the commitment.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you can't have guys on your pit crew that have a real job.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: They've got to be full-time in order to do that kind of traveling and make that kind of commitment.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_00: So a little bit of it, I think, goes a long way.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: All right, let's go back into your uh neck of the woods there in New England and kind of give us a sense of what I know you keep tabs of what's happening up there.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_01: You mentioned ACT, you mentioned some of the weekly things going on up there, the past tour.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_01: Where's everybody up there, Dave, in terms of super late model racing and being at least close to being on the same page?
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: Is that is that possible up in New England right now?
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, not so much, I'm afraid.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, super late model racing in the Northeast, or or Pro Stocks, as they call them up there.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the PAST tour, uh, and they've got the Granite State Pro Stock series as well.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, their rules are fairly similar to each other, but they are wildly different than anything you see uh anywhere else in the country.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_00: A super late model uh in the Northeast cannot be run.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's just mutually exclusive anywhere else.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um there are a lot of opinions about why that is.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: You know, uh promoters, as always, are kind of territorial.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_00: If my make if I make my rules a little bit different than everybody else's, that means I won't lose any cars to any other series.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you also won't gain any cars from any other series.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: So there are two super late model series in the Northeast.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: The ACT thing is is considerably different.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's sort of just for characterization's sake, like a pro late model series, but ACT's got control over a lot of stuff that other series don't necessarily police as well.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, they've got a spec engine, they've got spec shocks, and they've got a tire rule where they they don't allow people to just go out there and buy 16 tires.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: They also don't do the DLP for a 200, uh, a 200-lap race, we run 700 laps of practice over five days because the promoter's selling tires and fuel.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: So they've got a pretty good handle on it uh in terms of the expense.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: They they travel Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, uh, Quebec, Ontario a little bit.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it's it's affordable.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's part of the reason why I think it's the last four or five years in a row, they've had the best average car count for any major touring series in the country.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: They've they've got a hand on it.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: It ain't cheap.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't know of any racing that's cheap anymore, uh, but it's doable if you really want to do it.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: Great racing and a lot of great car counts as well.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so that brings me here to my neck of the woods here in the Midwest, where as you know, some pretty big news.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: Marty Mello from the ASA, now in alignment with Kevin Harvick and the cars tour west, which again, I'll start right there.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_01: Confusing because that's not the car's tour you and I just talked about down there in the southeast.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: Different race cars trying to get everybody on four barrel carburetors, the Midwest tour in Wisconsin, two barrel carburetors.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_01: Dave, we basically have a civil war in our hands again because now they have broken off with a two-barrel series with called the Wisconsin Challenge series.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_01: And now Marty Mello and that crew and Kevin Harvick, who want to get everybody on the same page, and I'm with them on that.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't seem like that's gonna work.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think we're gonna get a fragmented Midwest here, Dave.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: And bottom line is you and I have talked about this before.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: We've taken two steps forward, and almost like we took two steps back.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's a push.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's sad, but you know, I also want to be clear here.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: I there are no bad guys in this, right?
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody means well, everybody's doing what they believe is best for the sport and for their fans and for their competitors.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: There are just wildly divergent ideas of what super late model racing ought to be and what ought to be allowed, and what sh what ought not to be allowed.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: And as usual, you get a lot of this.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: When you get promoters together in the same room, it usually lasts about until lunch is served, and then all of a sudden it gets it gets controversial again, and everybody's got the best idea.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, I saw the other day that Gene Coleman, who's been in this sport since the 60s, he's got some really interesting ideas about how to build an affordable, reasonable, raceable super late model.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: I looked at his rule book the other day and and I was stunned by the amount of stuff that we spend money on in super late model racing that doesn't really necessarily have to be spent on in order to have a really good and fast and competitive and fun race car.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_00: But uh I don't know who the person is going to be that that brings the masses together on all of this, but I don't see them out there right now, unfortunately.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I agree with you because from my understanding and had talking to Marty Mello, Kevin Harvick's been a big proponent of this, and I give him credit for that, trying to get everybody on the same page.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: Here in the Midwest, one of the most successful promoters, as you know, Greg McCarnes, and what he's done at Madison and some of the Midwest tour stuff as well.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I talked to Ty Majewski last week after he got done with you guys at Talladega on the truck series race on Friday.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_01: He came up to the Dells on Saturday for a super light mile race, won it, by the way, not surprisingly.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: And he said, and I think this is the kind of the bottom line, Dave, it's the haves and the have nots.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: He said for his team to go to a four-barrel carburetor and some of the proponents and components that go with it, probably not that big of a deal.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: But the weak guy that races at the Dells or Madison every week or Slinger, they're gonna have a hard time making that commitment to a tour.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that's gonna be where we're gonna be, where we're gonna find out who's gonna make that move and who's not, and stay back.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: And cost is gonna be the bottom line every time we talk about this kind of thing.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_00: You're right.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: There, there are guys out there that can do whatever they want to do, that have got the backing and the infrastructure and the sponsorship and the parts deals.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Bubba Pollard can go race anywhere he wants to race, Majeski can go race anywhere he wants to race.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: And there are a significant number of those guys out there, but there's a far larger number of guys that don't have that luxury.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, the the premise in in auto racing that you can save teams money by making them throw away stuff that they've already bought and paid for and replace it with something else that was cheaper than what they bought and paid for already.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it may be cheaper, but it isn't free.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: And the stuff that I've got at home on the shelf or I've got under the hood of my race car already, uh, throwing that away and having to buy something else is not saving me money.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna double back and kind of finish up our conversation back to the weekly show.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_01: The weekly show, in my opinion, in a lot of places, is kind of on the endangered species list, right?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: Having those weekly races and not bringing in touring series and those kinds of things, kind of where do you think we are back in the day?
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: Again, you had Thursday nights at Thunder Road, I had Saturday night at Rockford Speedway.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: Is there a room for a weekly series as well as what we see in terms of touring and regional stuff in your mind, Dave, going forward?
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think there's room for it, but it's gotta, it's it's gotta be a pretty tight ship.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I I don't see much of a future for racetracks 10 years from now that just run Friday night or Saturday night with the same group of guys and gals and never bring in the touring series that don't have two or three times a year, those major big ticket shows uh that can pack the grandstands and pack pit road and and make the promoter money.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I I look at our friends down at Five Flags Speedway.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh a considerable portion, and and listen, I don't I don't have access to their books, and I I don't care to have access to their books, but anybody with eyes can tell you that the snowball derby probably underwrites a significant portion of their entire season.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: That uh that the derby uh with with multiple days of packed grandstands and packed uh garage areas probably pays the freight for a lot of those weekly shows that don't enjoy the same kind of support and success.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_00: I I I would hate to see it happen because without racetracks, where do you race?
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but I I think it's getting a whole lot harder to run a weekly racetrack these days.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's hard just to run a racetrack.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: So I tip my cap to everybody that tries to do it.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, I I think of our friend Jeff Striegel up at Berlin, right?
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: Kind of what he does.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: He's got weekly stuff, but every week something different.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: A special race sprint cars, the Arca series, super late models.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's almost like you need to kind of bring those two things together, Dave.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I think if you hybrid it a little bit, maybe that's the future of some of these weekly tracks out there.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Jeff and I, as you might imagine, have spent many, many hours and a few malt beverages over the years talking about short track racing and how to run a short track, and and he's doing it better than 99% of them out there.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: The one concern that I have and that I have suggested to him over time is that if every week is a special event, no week is a special event.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I think there there have to be, I think interspersed in there, there have to be a quote unquote regular race here and there.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: A to give your race fan's pocketbook a little break, right?
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a$40 ticket this week, it's only a$20 ticket this week.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: And he and I have discussed that a lot.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, I'm not gonna second Jeff, uh second guess Jeff, because Berlin is doing it right.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: They have more touring series coming under their umbrella in the course of a season than really any track I know of, and they're being very successful doing it.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: And two really successful midweek superlate model shows, which I love.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a midweek special sometimes.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: Last point before you go streaming and how this has played in all this is another hot topic.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_01: Flow racing, racing America, dirt TV, track TV.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: Where are we on that?
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: Helping, uh, helping the sport or is it hindering the sport, in your view?
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: It has slowly but surely won me over, Pete.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: I I was not at all sure that streaming was a good thing for short track racing, particularly on the night where the weather forecast at your local racetrack is a little bit iffy.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: Rather than spending the bucks and and taking a chance on getting rained on, I'll just sit in the Barka Lounger and watch it on TV.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: And there is some of that, I'm sure there is, but I'll just use myself as an example.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: The little track that I grew up in in Vermont races on Thursday nights.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: I live in North Carolina.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to be in the grandstands more than once or twice a year, no matter what, because it's just not workable.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: But I am going to be in the Barka Lounger, and I am going to be watching Thunder Road on Thursday night, and I know of a lot of other people that do that.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I also know of some people that have that have caught a race on flow or or they do their own uh their own streaming for some of their races as well.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: And they'll say, Is that that track up in Vermont?
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: Is that the track where they have the cow race?
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the milk bowl where the winner kisses the cow in Victory Lane.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: And it's surprising to me and gratifying to me how many people have found out about that little racetrack in Vermont because they saw it on TV.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: I heard some same stories here in the Midwest.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, listen, I appreciate you uh talking a little short track racing.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna get short track racing of the NASCAR variety this weekend up in Martinsville.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: I know you're looking forward to getting up there.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: One of my favorite places.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh went there, you know, that was our spring and fall.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: That was the beginning of our season and the end of our season up in New England because we could travel south to Martinsville.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: So it's always special when we get to go back to the paperclip.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I appreciate you giving us some time.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_01: Same travels up there, we'll be listening on SiriusXM Nascar Radio MRM broadcast this weekend, Dave.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's Dave Moody from SiriusXM Speedway.
• 19:00
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• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: Stick around here at Midwest Racing Central today.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: We'll have another podcast next week.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: We will preview the All-American 400.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: Big race going up at Nashville Fairgrounds there in Tennessee.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: Pete Pistoni, thanks for tuning in.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see you next time on Midwest Racing Central today.