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Homeland Security Shutdown | Climate Change Ruling Reversed · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 2: big stories we're looking at. Oh, this is a fun
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  Speaker 2: story at the Winter Olympics. What's going on? Under ten
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  Speaker 2: thousand condoms were initially supplied. Now there's a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of shortage here because in the twenty twenty four Paris Olympics,
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  Speaker 2: three hundred thousand condoms were provided. So this supply of
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  Speaker 2: condoms ran out within three three days. And why condoms, Well,
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  Speaker 2: because these athletes stoop like crazy. Also, one of the
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  Speaker 2: jobs that is not particularly wanted in the Olympics are
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  Speaker 2: the janitors who clean up the Olympic village where the
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  Speaker 2: athletes are living. What a mess. Okay, let's move on
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  Speaker 2: tonight At midnight. What happens a partial government shutdown. Boy,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen this before. And the Senate an Order
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  Speaker 2: Leader Chuck Schumer has warned the Democrats will not back
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  Speaker 2: another short term funding patch to extend the status quo.
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  Speaker 2: Continuing in resolution ain't going to happen this time, and
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  Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security, the Republicans say, we need
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  Speaker 2: more time to reach a deal over the Democrats' demands
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  Speaker 2: for new restriction on immigration enforcement, and it's not gonna
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  Speaker 2: happen by midnight. So DHU funding is just days way
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  Speaker 2: from lapsing and triggering a shutdown actually tonight. So what happened, Well,
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  Speaker 2: because there's so much backlash the way immigration enforcement is
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  Speaker 2: being done now between customs and Border patrol and ice,
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  Speaker 2: Congress has split DHS from the rest of the government appropriations,
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  Speaker 2: and that's being currently funded on a short term continuing resolution,
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  Speaker 2: and well all that disappears. But I think that's going
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  Speaker 2: to happen except for DHS that has been set aside,
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  Speaker 2: and so we are now looking at only DHS. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: here is and here is not only the problem, but
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  Speaker 2: the irony. Here. Under federal law, employees may work during
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  Speaker 2: a shutdown if their jobs are deemed essential or funded
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  Speaker 2: outside the annual appropriation spill, ICE and the CBDP, Customs
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  Speaker 2: and Border Patrol would continue working because they're deemed essential,
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  Speaker 2: so immigration rates continue. What is under the One Big
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  Speaker 2: Beautiful Bill. They ICE and the Border Patrol are given
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  Speaker 2: seventy five billion dollars seventy five billion dollars RICE, sixty
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  Speaker 2: five billion dollars for CBP in mandatory multi year funding,
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  Speaker 2: and most staff continue to be paid even if the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the government shuts down or parts of the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the government shuts down, and you go, wait
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  Speaker 2: a minute, don't they deserve to be cut? And then
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  Speaker 2: you have FEMA, for example, which is going to be
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  Speaker 2: cut at least parts of FEMA because they're deemed non essential.
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  Speaker 2: And other agencies under the Department of Homeland Security, Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's how crazy it has become. Now, for example, the
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  Speaker 2: Coast Guard their search and rescue, which makes sense. First
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  Speaker 2: of all, it's the only military branch that's not funded
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  Speaker 2: by the Department of Defense but through DHS. Now active
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  Speaker 2: duty personnel would continue to work, but without pay. Essential
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  Speaker 2: operations like search and rescue missions would continue unless it's
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  Speaker 2: determined that the person that is rescued, is a registered Democrat,
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  Speaker 2: then that goes away very quickly. Administrative services are paused,
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  Speaker 2: and so most DHS headquarters staff, policy officers, oversight aren't
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  Speaker 2: considered essential, and so by law you have essential services.
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  Speaker 2: And this whole issue is because of immigration, the immigration
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  Speaker 2: operations that are going on. And then of course Tom Homan,
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  Speaker 2: who is the Immigration z are has announced that the
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  Speaker 2: entire federal force in Minneapolis is being pulled back. Not
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  Speaker 2: because of theolytical backlash, not because this is a rogue
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  Speaker 2: group of agents, untrained, trigger happy agents. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's because it's been fabulously successful working with the city
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  Speaker 2: of Minneapolis. That's why they're pulling back, because it is successful.
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  Speaker 2: An he done anything wrong, Absolutely not, We did everything right. Well,
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  Speaker 2: how about the shooting that occurred of Renee Good and
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  Speaker 2: is it Richard Preddy, I have that right, Alex Preddy
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  Speaker 2: of Alex Preddy, No, nothing wrong, We did nothing wrong.
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  Speaker 2: But it's been hugely successful. It's crazy out there, It
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  Speaker 2: is crazy, and the Department of Defense will theoretically have
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  Speaker 2: a hearing where there will be a court hearing in
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  Speaker 2: which DHS is now going to investigate. They at first
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  Speaker 2: said we're not investigating at all any civil rights violations. Well,
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  Speaker 2: under pressure, they now have to do it. And you
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  Speaker 2: will see the government saying that there has not been
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  Speaker 2: one problem with the enforcement of immigration. Drives you nuts.
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  Speaker 2: But at least at least those federal agents are out
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  Speaker 2: of Minneapolis, either a four thousand or something in Minneapolis
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  Speaker 2: has a police force of four hundred. Okay, done with that.
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  Speaker 2: Here is well another Trump topic, and this one is
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  Speaker 2: a big one, and I agree with the President. He
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  Speaker 2: came out yesterday and in front of Electron, in front
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  Speaker 2: of this standard that he does, he said, this is
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  Speaker 2: a big one. This is a big one, and he's
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  Speaker 2: absolutely right on that. The Trump administration rejecting all science,
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  Speaker 2: has reversed the conclusion that climate change is harming Americans,
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  Speaker 2: that there even is climate change. He has said climate
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  Speaker 2: change is a hoax and it is the biggest scam
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  Speaker 2: in the history of the United States. Okay, So what
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  Speaker 2: he has done is taken away, I mean at the knees,
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  Speaker 2: cut it off the EPA's basis for regulatory action. It's
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  Speaker 2: a repeal of the two thousand and nine Endangerment Finding,
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  Speaker 2: which concluded on the basis of decades of science that
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  Speaker 2: carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases in danger public health
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  Speaker 2: and welfare. And this is just one of a series
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  Speaker 2: of by President Trump to scrap policies and regulations, and
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  Speaker 2: you know some you know are and it's just him
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  Speaker 2: doing what he does, and they don't really affect our
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  Speaker 2: health and really don't affect us in a major way.
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  Speaker 2: This one really does because what it does every regulation
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  Speaker 2: that is designed to curb the use of fossil fuel
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  Speaker 2: and accelerate the transition to clean energy is now done.
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  Speaker 2: It's finished, because it's all a hoax. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: those of you that suffered under the wildfires, it is
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  Speaker 2: a hoax that climate change had anything to do with it.
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  Speaker 2: For those people in the East who are suffering some
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  Speaker 2: of the worst weather since they started recording weather in
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  Speaker 2: the last several weeks and months, it's a hoax. It's
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  Speaker 2: not because of climate change. For those people in the
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  Speaker 2: Midwest with the floods, climate change has nothing to do
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  Speaker 2: with it. Look outside. Just because there's a flood doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean that there is climate change. And the administration also
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  Speaker 2: dismantled all federal emissions regulations governing vehicle models, and so
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  Speaker 2: vehicle models don't have to. Cars don't have to disappoint anymore.
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  Speaker 2: You know, for example, have catalytic converters that retain that
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  Speaker 2: reduce the amount of fossil fuel emissions. And the action,
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  Speaker 2: and here is the quote from the administration, This action
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  Speaker 2: will restore consumer choice, make more affordable vehicles available for
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  Speaker 2: American families, decrease the cost of living on all product
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  Speaker 2: products by lowering the cost of trucks, and save Americans
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  Speaker 2: more than one point three trillion dollars by removing regulatory
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  Speaker 2: requirements for motor vehicle standards. And of course the experts said,
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  Speaker 2: what are you talking about. By the way, that's probably true.
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  Speaker 2: Eliminating all regulations make trucks and cars cheaper. So do
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  Speaker 2: so does eliminating seat belts. By the way, that does
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  Speaker 2: eliminating you know, the crash proof or the crash resistant
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  Speaker 2: bubble that's there that where the passenger side or the
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  Speaker 2: passenger compartment is strengthened. Get rid of that because that
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  Speaker 2: costs money too. It all costs money. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: at what point do you draw the line and you
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  Speaker 2: think that climate change isn't important. Man Joseph Goffman, who
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  Speaker 2: is a former assistant administrator of the EPA Office of
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  Speaker 2: airon Radiation said straight out, this move is a fundamental
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  Speaker 2: betrayal of EPA's responsibility to protect human health. Legally indefensible,
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  Speaker 2: morally bankrupt, completely untethered from the scientific record. Researchers around
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  Speaker 2: the world are unanimous in saying that climate change is
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  Speaker 2: responsible for so much of the dangers that we're seeing climate,
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  Speaker 2: sea levels going up, the glaciers melting at a record pace.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you when the scientists said that climate change
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  Speaker 2: is going to cost some big change in terms of
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  Speaker 2: sea level and the melting of glaciers, al Gore came
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  Speaker 2: out with that. And remember how much fun people were
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  Speaker 2: making of al Gore. A planet has a favor remember that,
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  Speaker 2: and that'd still do. And here is where the scientists,
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  Speaker 2: and they gave it fifty years before, what would happen,
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  Speaker 2: what is happening now would happen. Here's where they're wrong.
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  Speaker 2: It happened much faster than anticipated, and so the EPA
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  Speaker 2: effectively is gone. That's the shame of it. The EPA
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  Speaker 2: released its formal proposal in July. More than half a
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  Speaker 2: million public comments overwhelmingly opposed to the plan, I mean
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  Speaker 2: comments from environmentalists scientists, civil rights groups, public health organizations.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for your comments, which by law had to
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  Speaker 2: occur public hearings. But no climate change is complete hoax.
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  Speaker 2: The good news is you don't have to worry about
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  Speaker 2: catalytic converters anymore. Engines that are designed to reduce the
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  Speaker 2: burning of fossil fuels in a clean way. When are
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  Speaker 2: we going to have coal fired car engines? Because coal
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  Speaker 2: is far cheaper to burn than for example, gasoline, which
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  Speaker 2: has to be created obviously has to be refined out
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  Speaker 2: of oil. Just digging coal out of the ground and
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  Speaker 2: designing a car engine that can burn coal, Man, isn't
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  Speaker 2: that a good idea? All right? Coming up? I tell
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  Speaker 2: you this stuff depresses me. Here's one for you, great
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  Speaker 2: garbage trash story, and that is when is trash a trash? Well,
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  Speaker 2: the city of Los Angeles decides when trash is a
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  Speaker 2: trash when cleaning up the city. Of course, that's their job.
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  Speaker 2: And here's what homeless people have said is that when
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  Speaker 2: the city seizes their property, the city makes the determination
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  Speaker 2: that what's trash, what's hazardous, and tosses it. And the
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  Speaker 2: homeless people don't have the right, don't have the ability
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  Speaker 2: to go in and contest it and arguing their forty
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  Speaker 2: their Fourth Amendment rights are violated and that's unreasonable search
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  Speaker 2: and seizure, and they're saying you can't do that. And
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  Speaker 2: due process has also been violated because I don't have
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  Speaker 2: a chance to go in and argue at all. So
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  Speaker 2: what's going on, Well, that a lawsuit was filed seven
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  Speaker 2: years ago and there is now a ruling by US
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  Speaker 2: District Judge Dale Fisher, and this ended basically ended the
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  Speaker 2: case against the city without even a trial. And is
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  Speaker 2: it because the determination of what is trash and what
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  Speaker 2: is not has been determinated? Not in this one. It's
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  Speaker 2: because the city had altered records of the cleanups. The
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  Speaker 2: city is required to determine trash and hazardous material whenever
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  Speaker 2: picking that up, and it did, and it has to
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  Speaker 2: state its reasons, and it did. The problem is, after
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  Speaker 2: a determination was made, the city started altering the records,
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  Speaker 2: changing dates, changing reasons, changing the basis for example, is
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  Speaker 2: this hazardous or not? So the judge ordered a neutral
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  Speaker 2: forensic analysis of one hundred and forty four cleanups, and
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  Speaker 2: the records showed that ninety percent were either modified or
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  Speaker 2: fabricated by the city. After the city was put on
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  Speaker 2: notice or its obligation to preserve documents. City just altered it,
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  Speaker 2: straight out committed fraud. That's it. And so the judge
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  Speaker 2: just saying, no, that doesn't work. So the case against
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  Speaker 2: the city, as a matter of fact, now effectively has
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  Speaker 2: been one. And so what does a homeless person do. Well,
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  Speaker 2: A homeless person, if their trash is picked up, has
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  Speaker 2: a right to go in and argue that it's not trash,
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  Speaker 2: and the city, under the law, has to retain it
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  Speaker 2: for ninety days until the owner of the trash and
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  Speaker 2: or valuable item, depending on who defines it under what circumstances,
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  Speaker 2: ninety days to come back and argue and Heretofore, it
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  Speaker 2: was just arbitrary. Now Neil deals with people because Neil
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  Speaker 2: has homeless people in and around his home and they
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of trash. Matter of fact, I've been
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  Speaker 2: in Neil's Hollis and I think he's got more trash
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  Speaker 2: in the house than you could ever imagine. And Neil says, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's not. It's valuable stuff.
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  Speaker 3: In my home that I pay property taxes on. That
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  Speaker 3: is correct. It's it's a mess. It's the pay property taxes.
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  Speaker 3: We can you know what I've seen more recently and
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  Speaker 3: I think, wow, that's getting creative. Is you know those
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  Speaker 3: bikes that you could that the city puts out that
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  Speaker 3: you can use credit cards to what.
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  Speaker 2: They those know that those are private it's not city.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, allow them because they put them out in property,
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  Speaker 3: but some might be city done.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: They'll lock them up to trees and stuff in their
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  Speaker 3: little homesteads so other people can't use them. So they
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  Speaker 3: ride them to their shanties, their little lean tos, and
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  Speaker 3: then they'll lock them so that they kind of use
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  Speaker 3: them as their own private vehicle.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't even think that was happening, but you
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  Speaker 2: know you wanted to go. You stories that blow your
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  Speaker 2: felt line. You know it's a lose lose, and can
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  Speaker 2: you imagine you have to go in front of some
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  Speaker 2: hearing officer because you have to be given the opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to argue this is not trash. By the way, this
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  Speaker 2: court order does not say what has to be done,
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  Speaker 2: how you do it. It just says you have to
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  Speaker 2: do it. You have to give the plaintiff, a homeless person,
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  Speaker 2: the right to come in and say my stuff is
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  Speaker 2: not trash. Now, what is trash? No? One knows. That
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been determined yet. Who determines it, No one knows.
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  Speaker 2: It's fascinating stuff. I love it, and thank goodness, I
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  Speaker 2: live in a gated community where. Yeah, but if I.
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  Speaker 3: Had stuff on my front lawn, the city could, if
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  Speaker 3: there was complaints, the city could come by and clean
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  Speaker 3: it up.
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  Speaker 2: I understand. But under the law, now, under the law,
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  Speaker 2: whoever says it is there. I mean mainly homeless encampments.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you have someone who is in a tent
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  Speaker 2: or but you see someone who is walking down the
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  Speaker 2: street with a shopping cart filled with their precious possessions
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  Speaker 2: and now they're parked on the street because they have
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  Speaker 2: to sleep and it's all around them. The city comes
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  Speaker 2: and picks them all up. All right, So much for that.
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  Speaker 2: That's the latest court case. We're gonna see more of
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  Speaker 2: that coming up. All right. So let me describe a building,
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  Speaker 2: a business, A rooftop garden with Italian honeybees. I had
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  Speaker 2: no idea there was such a thing as Italian honeybees,
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  Speaker 2: art exhibitions and featuring the works of local artists, an
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  Speaker 2: in guest resident bedroom. It sounds like a retreat. It's
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  Speaker 2: a grocery store, in New York. Happier Grocery open in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and it has hosted chest nights, family
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  Speaker 2: style dinner parties, chefs, yoga, breathe breathwork classes. Okay, fine,
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  Speaker 2: thank you. That's in case you're not breathing, a knitting workshop.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a grocery store. So why would this be
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  Speaker 2: so successful, Neil? Because it's sort of counterintuitive, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: I like mix spaces, I love the concert I love
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  Speaker 3: art obviously, and the thought of bringing these things into
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  Speaker 3: one place I think is a kind of a neat idea.
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  Speaker 3: But man, this particular story breaking it down, it just
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  Speaker 3: seems like pretentious crap because it's like, to me, it's
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  Speaker 3: trying to make something benign like grocery shopping into something
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  Speaker 3: that makes me feel special about myself.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that is exactly the point, I think, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to take a different tact because when you talk
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  Speaker 2: about instacart, which we're using more and more and people
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  Speaker 2: are going less to grocery stores, I believe you got
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  Speaker 2: to get him in the stores somehow, and this is
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  Speaker 2: the way it becomes an event. It becomes a special
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  Speaker 2: trip to the grocery stores. Now you're right. This is
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  Speaker 2: pretentious as hell. It's so she she, it's ridiculous. It's
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  Speaker 2: called Happier Grocery. It opened to the twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 2: But the thing is, it's not really about the groceries.
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  Speaker 3: That's the point. You're right, it's not about the groceries.
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  Speaker 3: It's about the groceries, and you don't care about the
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  Speaker 3: price that they don't care about the money, but you
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  Speaker 3: have to to have all those other things there that
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  Speaker 3: to me, it becomes I don't know, it's a little
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  Speaker 3: hippie dippy and it loses the focus. Listen, we all
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  Speaker 3: need to eat now. If you want to have a
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  Speaker 3: part farm live farm with the honey bees and all
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  Speaker 3: these that's beautiful and art and there. I love all that,
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  Speaker 3: but the reality is, what is this model? It to
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  Speaker 3: me is not bringing it to the people. It's curating
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  Speaker 3: a special This is these are our people and you
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  Speaker 3: can be a part of this club.
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  Speaker 2: And to me, that's not okay, well okay, let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you what happened at my grocery store, which is
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  Speaker 2: only a grocery store routes which I go to down
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  Speaker 2: the street. That's my two ghost store. And now it's
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  Speaker 2: Girl Scout Cookie season in case you don't know that.
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  Speaker 2: And so every day, and I've gone a couple of
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  Speaker 2: times this week because I was short of some stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I go down there and there is there is that
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  Speaker 2: little stand with moms and the little the Girl Scouts,
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  Speaker 2: and I've already bought mine. So there's a new group
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  Speaker 2: the next day, so I go up there and I said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I've already bought my Girl Scout cookies. And yesterday I
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  Speaker 2: had a little girl you stand in front of me
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  Speaker 2: and say, don't you want to buy more? And I said, no,
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  Speaker 2: I've bought all the cookies I want. You know what
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  Speaker 2: it's like to be tackled by an eight year old
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  Speaker 2: and you're not able to fight? Well, kno does Yeah, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you can't even kick him because mom is there, KF.
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  Speaker 2: I am sixty.
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