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Patti Negri · Postcards to the Universe

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa Caprio. Do
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  Speaker 1: you believe in magic? What if you were told that
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  Speaker 1: all you had to do was get a little creative
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  Speaker 1: and work a magic spell to bring anything you can
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  Speaker 1: imagine into your life? Here on Postcards to the Universe,
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  Speaker 1: we will share manifesting, tips, postcards, creativity, abundance, and prosperity.
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  Speaker 1: Here is your host, Melissa Caprio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, and welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa,
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  Speaker 2: creating the life you crave. How's everybody doing? Hope you're
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  Speaker 2: doing well. It's Halloween season. We're in October. If you're
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  Speaker 2: here on October 7th at a little after 4 p.m.
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  Speaker 2: Eastern time, you are watching me live. And I have
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  Speaker 2: a really cool guest today. She's a psychic medium. She
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  Speaker 2: is the good witch, And she's an author, Patti Negri.
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  Speaker 2: And she's going to join me in just a couple minutes.
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  Speaker 2: But it's really funny because right before we went on,
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  Speaker 2: I heard this big ba-boom. It's thundering here. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: this is so perfect. This is so perfect for today's show.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're one of my regulars, just I love
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  Speaker 2: you so much. Thank you so much for being here
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  Speaker 2: with me. I get your emails. I so appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: You have no idea. It means the world to me
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  Speaker 2: that you like my show and you like the guests.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm Alyssa. I am an author. I'm a photographer.
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  Speaker 2: You can see behind me. This is my work. That's
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  Speaker 2: my book over my head, Postcards to the Universe, Harness
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  Speaker 2: the Universe's Power and Manifest Your Dreams. And I talk
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  Speaker 2: about manifesting and bringing the things we want into our lives.
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  Speaker 2: And I created my own Oracle deck out of manifesting
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  Speaker 2: postcards that people send me with their greatest desires. They
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  Speaker 2: want whatever they want. They send it to me and
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  Speaker 2: I photograph it. And you can see some of the
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  Speaker 2: photos over my head. And that just helps set the
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  Speaker 2: intention for that manifestation. I do a whole ritual. I
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  Speaker 2: burn candles or oils. I have music, frequency music on.
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  Speaker 2: I set the intention. And I find things that I
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  Speaker 2: feel matches what the affirmation is. And I put it
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  Speaker 2: together in my own artwork. And I have created a
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  Speaker 2: 52-deck card deck and it's homemade right now. I am
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  Speaker 2: going to be making it a deck for purchase soon,
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  Speaker 2: but I picked today's card for a reason because of
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  Speaker 2: my guests. So today's card is when you believe in magic,
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  Speaker 2: magical things happen because isn't that the truth? It's what
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  Speaker 2: we believe, right? Whatever we believe, we get to be right.
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  Speaker 2: And today we're going to be talking about magic. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to be talking about the spirit world. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to be talking about ghost adventures. We're going to be
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  Speaker 2: talking about all that stuff. So when you believe in magic,
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  Speaker 2: magical things happen.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I want to bring out my guest because I have
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  Speaker 2: so many questions for her and she has quite the background.
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  Speaker 2: So Patti Negri is a renowned psychic medium, good witch,
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  Speaker 2: bestselling author, and television personality. She is best known for
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  Speaker 2: her recurring appearances on Travel Channel and Discovery Plus' hit series,
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  Speaker 2: Ghost Adventures, as well as YouTube's popular paranormal series, TFIL
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  Speaker 2: Overnight with Elton Castee. And she's an international bestselling author.
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  Speaker 2: So her books are Old World Magic for the Modern World, Tips, Tricks,
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  Speaker 2: and Techniques to Balance, Empower, and Create a Life You Love,
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  Speaker 2: and Dollcraft. And she's done so much more. She has
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  Speaker 2: such an extensive media career. And I'll let her tell
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  Speaker 2: you about it. So welcome, Patti Negri, to my show today. Oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think. Did we lose her? I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if Chris brought her out. There she is.
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  Speaker 2: Where did she go? Hey, thank you so much. I'm
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  Speaker 2: right in front of the curtain, Rob.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me on, Melissa. This
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  Speaker 3: is great. I'm just like waving.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, well, you know, our producer, so for
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  Speaker 2: people who watch the show live, they know we always
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  Speaker 2: have little hiccups. The producer has to like bring her out.
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  Speaker 2: So if he's having a delay, then that's what happens.
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  Speaker 2: But you're here and I'm so excited. And I want
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  Speaker 2: to start right off because we are in Halloween and
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  Speaker 2: I probably also describe myself as a good witch. What
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  Speaker 2: is a good witch? What does that mean to you?
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  Speaker 2: And how has that shaped your identity over the years?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it started out with the love of Wizard of
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  Speaker 3: Oz when I was a small child. That probably shaped me.
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  Speaker 3: I want to be a good witch. I actually was
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  Speaker 3: picking herbs and doing weird things with them at a
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  Speaker 3: very young age. Didn't know I knew what I was doing,
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  Speaker 3: but I did. But I actually do have the big
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  Speaker 3: pink Glinda dress. You know, I'm trying to work on
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  Speaker 3: showing up in a big bubble. I have not perfected that.
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  Speaker 4: But I keep working at it. But I only work
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  Speaker 4: in the light. I don't like light, black. I don't
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  Speaker 4: like so much. Good means a lot of things and
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  Speaker 4: good things. But why would you do, to me, negative
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  Speaker 4: magic when you truly can create everything you want and
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  Speaker 4: get everything you want, just like you did with positive magic?
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  Speaker 2: Because.
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  Speaker 3: no judgments on anybody. I do have dear friends who
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  Speaker 3: will work in dark arts, but I think I'm happier.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I know. And to get where you want you,
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  Speaker 3: because not good or bad is that you have to
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  Speaker 3: live in the world you create. So why not that
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  Speaker 3: even the person out there, send them love because that's,
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  Speaker 3: what's going to come back. If you go into, you know,
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  Speaker 3: cause and effect action reaction, let alone the power of three.
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  Speaker 3: Be good.
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  Speaker 2: So you are a believer in the power of three.
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  Speaker 2: Because not everybody who practices witchcraft is. Some are and
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  Speaker 2: some aren't. So you are a believer in the power
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  Speaker 2: of three.
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  Speaker 3: To me, yeah. And I could talk it in scientific terms.
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  Speaker 3: I could talk it in psychology terms. I could talk
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  Speaker 3: it in witchy terms. I could talk it in karmic terms.
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  Speaker 3: It's all different templates of wording. But yeah, basically what
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  Speaker 3: you put out, you're going to get back in multiple ways.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of think the same thing and that's what
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  Speaker 2: I do. So I figured out a way to use
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  Speaker 2: photography and art to sort of, that's like my, my,
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  Speaker 2: you know, my tools besides the candles and the, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and the chanting and all of that stuff. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: let me do, what's my background? Well, my background's photography.
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  Speaker 2: So let me add that to the mix. And that's
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  Speaker 2: part of my magic of creating the life that I want.
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  Speaker 2: And making it personal is really important. I am just, you, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So let's show your books. Why you, before I forget,
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  Speaker 2: I want to make sure you show, she shows her books.
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  Speaker 2: So she's got.
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  Speaker 3: This is my, this is my passion book. Old World
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  Speaker 3: Magic for the Modern World. It's literally, it's simple, simple.
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  Speaker 3: I spent more time on writing it. how to bring
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  Speaker 3: magic into every part of your life, like from brushing
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  Speaker 3: your teeth to what a pinch of salt in the
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  Speaker 3: toilet could do, which way to stir your coffee, how
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  Speaker 3: to talk to the dead, makes everything easy. Love, bringing
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  Speaker 3: in love, diet. just again, putting that magic touch in everything.
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  Speaker 3: Super simple. You don't have to be a witch or
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  Speaker 3: a psychic. And I've been a bestseller for six, pushing
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  Speaker 3: seven years. And this is my newest one, Doll Craft.
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  Speaker 3: I am a doll collector from birth. I think when
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  Speaker 3: I came out of my mother's womb, I had a
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  Speaker 3: large collection. There's behind me, anybody? Yeah, I can see that.
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  Speaker 3: And this book brought my love of dolls together because
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  Speaker 3: half of it is haunted dolls with my expertise and
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  Speaker 3: the spooky dolls and Annabelle and Peggy and Robert and
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  Speaker 3: the proper care and feeding because there is proper care
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  Speaker 3: and feeding if you really want to bring a haunted
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  Speaker 3: doll into your house. And then half of it's about
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  Speaker 3: magical puppets using magics and spellcasting, sympathetic magic, having a
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  Speaker 3: little doll that represents you, your family, health, love and everything.
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  Speaker 3: So this was combining my spiritual witchy world and my
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  Speaker 3: paranormal ghosty world all in one little fat book.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. I love the, the,
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  Speaker 2: the shape of it. I like that.
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  Speaker 3: It's a square shape.
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  Speaker 2: I like the way they do that. Llewellyn, right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Llewellyn. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, they're great. I love the books that they
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  Speaker 2: do all the witch books that they do. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's interesting. Cause the dolls have always scared me. Um,
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  Speaker 2: when I was little, I never liked dolls cause I
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  Speaker 2: thought they were always talking to me. Maybe they were.
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  Speaker 2: And I just, you know, and, and from movies, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they show you the creepy dolls that like freaks you out.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not a big But I'm fascinated that you
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  Speaker 2: find these haunted dolls because you also, you're a psychic
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  Speaker 2: medium and you connect to the other side. So why
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  Speaker 2: don't you share with us a little bit about how
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  Speaker 2: you started getting into tapping into the other side, exploring
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  Speaker 2: haunted places. you know, connecting with these dolls and all
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  Speaker 2: this spirit work that you're doing. It's like wild.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's always been who I was. Like
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  Speaker 3: I said, I've been talking to the dead since I
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  Speaker 3: could talk. My first seance, which is one of the
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  Speaker 3: things I'm known for, I literally was seven or eight
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  Speaker 3: years old in my little suburban Los Angeles area home.
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  Speaker 3: I just knew it was real. I thought everybody could
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  Speaker 3: do it. I really do think everybody can. I think
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  Speaker 3: kids have it. It just gets taught out of us
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  Speaker 3: in our modern Western complete left brain logic focused world
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  Speaker 3: where we've lost the magic, but it didn't get taught
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  Speaker 3: out of me. My mom went, yeah, grandma did that too.
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  Speaker 3: Grandma could do that too. So I think I was
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  Speaker 3: about 13 when I became a seeker, started studying religion, philosophy, science,
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  Speaker 3: occult science, metaphysics, spirituality of every form and found this
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  Speaker 3: very elemental goddess, magical witchy pal. But I borrow from everybody.
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  Speaker 3: But it's always been who I was. I've been doing seances.
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  Speaker 3: I've been practicing. Started out Wiccan. Now I've expanded very
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  Speaker 3: much from that in the 80s. But as far as career-wise,
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  Speaker 3: and I literally, I remember my high school prom, was
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  Speaker 3: on the Queen Mary, one of my favorite haunted places,
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  Speaker 3: but that's where I was born. I remember sneaking out
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  Speaker 3: of my high school prom to go see the ghost
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  Speaker 3: by the pool, little girl ghost. So it was way
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  Speaker 3: back to childhood, but career wise, it was not. I
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  Speaker 3: was actually a dancer. I was an actor in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 3: And when I got too old for Hollywood, which I did,
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  Speaker 3: because back in the day, I was like, well, I'll
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  Speaker 3: become a producer and hire myself. So at 30, I
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  Speaker 3: became a producer and and run a very successful international
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  Speaker 3: production company. But in 2008, that great big corporate crash came,
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  Speaker 3: that corporate entertainment became a dirty word. Honestly, I think
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  Speaker 3: it was the start of that private jets to islands.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not surprised.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, that is not the shows we create. But
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  Speaker 3: everything was crashing and burning. And at the same time,
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  Speaker 3: reality television was up, up, up. And I got a
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  Speaker 3: call from somebody who had been to one of my
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  Speaker 3: seances and said, Patty, we need you to do a
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  Speaker 3: seance on this reality show. Oh, thank you. No, I can't.
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  Speaker 3: That's my private life. I keep it very private. Thank you,
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  Speaker 3: but no thank you. And they're like, please, we don't
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  Speaker 3: know anybody else. And I'm like, no. And I'm sitting
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  Speaker 3: there looking at my empty calendar going, well, what's the
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  Speaker 3: name of the show? And literally she goes, well, it's
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  Speaker 3: called Mobile Home Disaster, and it's on country music television.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, who would watch that? Really? I think
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  Speaker 3: corporate clients would watch Mobile Home Disaster. One of my friends,
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  Speaker 3: I go, well, maybe I could do this just once.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: It was the most fulfilling day I'd had since I
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  Speaker 3: could remember, Melissa. I got to talk to this beautiful
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  Speaker 3: little girl who everybody thought was crazy because she was
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  Speaker 3: drawing portals on the ceiling of her motorhome. I'm like, no.
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  Speaker 3: There are portals on the ceiling of her motor home.
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  Speaker 3: I got to help the spirit crossover that had a
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  Speaker 3: big message. And I got to slightly open the mind
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  Speaker 3: of the Southern Bible Belt cast and crew that this
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  Speaker 3: isn't dark. This isn't evil. I'm like, wow, best day
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  Speaker 3: of my life. I'm never going to do it again.
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  Speaker 3: So it aired a couple months later, typical TV. It aired.
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  Speaker 3: That looked great. That was fun. But nope. My first
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  Speaker 3: call that morning, I'm in my production office. My first
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  Speaker 3: call that morning was from my biggest corporate client I
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  Speaker 3: did national shows for. Hi, Patty.
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  Speaker 4: Hi.
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  Speaker 3: I saw your television. Oh, I'm dying inside. I'm like, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And she big pauses. She's like, I didn't know you
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  Speaker 3: were into the paranormal. And I'm like, I'm never going
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  Speaker 3: to work in this town again. I'm just like, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's like voices creaking. And she goes, I love the paranormal.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, what am I doing? I'm out of
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  Speaker 3: the psychic medium closet. I'm out of the paranormal closet.
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  Speaker 3: I'm out of the witchy broom closet. And I haven't
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  Speaker 3: looked back. Just because I'm literally physically lit and not
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of Hollywood working both sides of the
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  Speaker 3: camera and the stage from both ends. I just kind
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  Speaker 3: of became the person. So not ever my plan whatsoever.
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  Speaker 3: Ghost Adventures came around. I started doing every show if
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  Speaker 3: they needed a witch or a psychic medium from paranormal shows,
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  Speaker 3: not paranormal shows. And then ghost adventures came along in 2015.
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  Speaker 3: It was supposed to be one of those one-offs, but
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  Speaker 3: it became huge year, two episodes a year for 11
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  Speaker 3: years straight. So far we have a new season just started.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a big show. I mean, people, people
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  Speaker 2: really do are interested in the paranormal. People are interested
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  Speaker 2: in what they don't know what they can't see. And,
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  Speaker 2: And I love that more and more people are sort
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  Speaker 2: of outing themselves like, hey, I'm into this. I've always
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  Speaker 2: been interested. I used to do seances with my friends
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  Speaker 2: when we were eight, nine years old. We would call
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  Speaker 2: pets that passed away, whatever we would do and scare ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: But it was so much fun. And then, yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: it never really left me either. There was always that
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  Speaker 2: I knew there was something bigger than me. I was
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  Speaker 2: only here for a little while. And And there was
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  Speaker 2: so much more magic that I wanted to discover. So
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  Speaker 2: now I'm here. And now I talk to people like you.
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  Speaker 2: So here we go.
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  Speaker 3: Do what you do.
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  Speaker 2: You're a manifesto.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Yeah. I honestly think the paranormal is
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  Speaker 3: not going to go away. Number one, the veil is
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  Speaker 3: getting thinner and thinner. And more stuff happened that's unexplainable
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  Speaker 3: by old-fashioned standards. So quantum science is okay. But I
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  Speaker 3: think the paranormal is basically... Religion for people who don't
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  Speaker 3: want religion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Because, you know, when time times are scary, times are
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  Speaker 3: always scary, but now they're 20 scary bombarded in our
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  Speaker 3: face 24 seven with social media. So times have always
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  Speaker 3: been scary. Traditionally, people would go back to their faith,
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  Speaker 3: go back to church, go back to temple. That's not
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  Speaker 3: keeping up for everybody. It's like, well, I'm gay, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm Baptist. I can't. So there's the rise in things
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  Speaker 3: like witchcraft, largest growing religion in America, new age, more
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  Speaker 3: left of center things. But there's still a great big
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  Speaker 3: group of people that I don't want this woo woo stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want religion. I don't want a spirituality. But
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  Speaker 3: I'm so scared we get blown up this week by
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  Speaker 3: the aliens or whoever. I want to know I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to be OK. I want to go on a paranormal investigation.
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  Speaker 3: I want to go on a ghost hunt. So they
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  Speaker 3: go on a ghost hunt. They see they experience something.
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  Speaker 3: They see it's real. And then oftentimes they will just
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  Speaker 3: like backdoor into a belief system that supports them.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, no, it's true. So share with everybody what
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  Speaker 2: most people who watch my show would probably know, but
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  Speaker 2: anybody who doesn't, what is a seance? Because some people
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  Speaker 2: might be like, I know I've heard the word, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't really understand what that is. You said you're
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  Speaker 2: very well known for your seances.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: A seance, people have been talking to the dead forever.
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  Speaker 3: It's a group of people. We lift the veil. The
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  Speaker 3: way I lift the veil is very... I was, again,
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  Speaker 3: at that age, not knowing how, doing a very spiritualist style,
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  Speaker 3: turn of the last century, the spiritualist style, style seance
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  Speaker 3: around the table. I work elementally. So I have, call
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  Speaker 3: in whatever deities you work with, your angels, God, Jesus, everything.
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  Speaker 3: I call, I work elementally, the air and the fire
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  Speaker 3: and the water and the earth. So we lift the
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  Speaker 3: veil and we communicate with loved ones. Again, I, in personal,
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  Speaker 3: private seances, public seances, we're going to, be talking to
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  Speaker 3: your grandma, your mom, your loved ones, the kid who
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  Speaker 3: died in school. Television were the serial killer, the master.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They want, they want the big, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But, but again, so if anybody's seen me do a
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  Speaker 3: seance on portals to hell or ghost adventures, any of those,
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  Speaker 3: it's very different. The personal ones, like I'm doing this
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  Speaker 3: weekend in Salem, like I'm doing pretty much every week
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  Speaker 3: through Thanksgiving and, It's they're sweet and loving and you get,
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  Speaker 3: I've gotten everything from iPhone codes. So the living family
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  Speaker 3: can get the photos off the iPhone to where's the
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: will to, I love you. And I don't care that
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: you didn't make the funeral. Your plane was, you know,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: they're really healing and sweet, but that's what it is. We,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: we lift the veil and we, we talk to the
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: other side. I don't command or demand anybody or anything ever.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: We just invite. And it's amazing the luck we have
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: because they have a lot to say. Yeah.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: No, I imagine. I mean, I get signs all the
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: time from loved ones that have passed on, you know,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: all the time and showing up and dreams and visions
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. How do they show
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: up for you now? You know, you know, if you
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: like think of the movie Ghost and you think of
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Wolfie Goldberg, like. They come in, you know, took over
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: her body, but, but, but that's not what you're doing, right?
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: They're not taking over your body or are they taking over?
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I do some trans channeling. I do trans channeling.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not quite TV would be gold version. I, if, again,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: if I, I'm one friend recently, I took on her
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: grandma's complete muscle structure and everything. I do percentages wise.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's why I started my school. I teach this.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: We can all do this. The largest portal on our
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: body is behind our head. That's why when we pray,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: we bow our head. So that you have to keep close,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: even if you're channeling. Cause you know, I was like, okay,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: grandma's channeling. I will let her, I'll said, and I'll
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: take her posturing. She could have 80% of my body.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: If I'm channeling Richard Ramirez or some, it's like, you
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: could have a wee little bit of part of my body.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I keep control over it. But not all mediums are transmediums.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: A lot are evidential. Like Cindy Kayser, I respect as
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: much or more than anybody. She's not a transmedium. She's evidential.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: She'll tell you what color underwear the ghost is wearing,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: but she doesn't change this way. And if somebody's not
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: comfortable with that, I never want fear brought into my seances.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: If we're, whether we're, you know, eight people or 13
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: around a table, or I'm literally doing a seance with
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: 70 people at a convention, or, a mediumship gallery with
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: a thousand people, um, very similar, just different layout. Um, it's,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to let something darken. Right.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: And then, so how do they present to you when
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: you're connecting with spirit? Do you see them? Do you
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: sense them? Do you hear them? Like what, what are
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: there all your Claire's on?
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I Claire audience, Claire voyance, Claire sentience, Claire Gustin,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: all it's clear seeing, clear smelling, clear tasting. Um, I,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: because I've been doing it so long, I just combine
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: them all. Okay. Okay. Melissa, there's a guy standing behind you. I,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I will break it down for my school to teach people.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Cause again, everybody can learn this. It's so great for
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: 20 bucks a class. Um, but it's like, I'm, I
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: might be seeing him. I might just knowing I might
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: see him with my outside eyes. There's a shadow. I
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: might see him just with my third eye. I might
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: just know that he's there. I might smell that he's there.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I squish them all together, but I do separate them
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: to teach people because in our mundane world, our day-to-day life,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: go to work. We mostly are almost always focusing on
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: visual and hearing. So that's the ones we have developed fast.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: You know, you're driving, you stop at a red light,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: you're hearing your work, all that. So I have people
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: test where they're, but you know, we need to redevelop
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: all that intuition, all those getting players, but I have
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: people check to see which their strong ones are. And
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: then which ones? So use the strong ones and then
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: learn to develop the other ones. Like Claire Gustin's taste.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Taste is a big one for me to tell how
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: somebody died and tell their illness. I mean, I can
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: taste like what a cancer tastes like or blood in
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: the mouth, which is a common one, which a lot
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: of people smell. Ooh, grandma's perfume, grandpa's cigar pipe. I
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: haven't smelled that in 20 years.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: That's really, it's so fascinating to, I think I have
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: a clairknowing. What's clairknowing when you just know things? Clairvoyance. Clairvoyance. Okay.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And also, I think I see in the elementals, though.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're spirits or not because I've
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: had a couple of actual big experiences, but all the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: time I see walking by me constantly. But I always
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: feel like they're like an elemental, though. I don't feel
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: like they're a spirit.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Elementals are everywhere. I mean, there's a lot of in
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: the everything. what we call ghosts or spirits or things
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: that were living spirits and they've, they've passed over. I
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: don't think they're stuck. I, you know, if people think,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I think they hang out because they can, I don't
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: believe there's time and space on the other side of
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: the veil. So, and, and again, it's essences of, I
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: think once you pass, you can be reincarnated and at
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: the pearly gates, kind of the old ancient Sumerian belief
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: system and, be hanging around watching the grandkids go up
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: if there's no time and space. Right. So occasionally there
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: are a few spirits that I call shades. They don't
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: know they're dead. Maybe it was an unexpected or violent
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: death or somehow they literally are the ones that are
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: a little like, what's wrong here? They are.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: They're like confused and they just need the guidance to
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: find the light to go.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: They're the ones that you do come to go to light, Caroline,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: go to the line. We've done it at several seances.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: They need to cross over. And then if they want
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: to come back and visit after that, they certainly can. But,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: but I, I think most are just there because even
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: when you go to the spooky places, like the prisons
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: and the insane asylums, they're not as a rule being
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: tortured anymore, but it's the life they knew. If you
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: spent 30 years in the yard at the prison, where
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: are you going to hang out when you're dead with
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: those same people?
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Do you ever get scared? Because I am so fascinated.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: My friend jokes with me. He tells me I'm such
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: a scaredy cat because I, I don't like to watch
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: things that are too scary, but I'm so fascinated with it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: When you walk into a haunted place, do you ever
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: feel afraid?
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: You do feel afraid. I do.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: My tell, my poker tell, is I get this ridiculous
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: grin on my face. It looks like I'm not scared.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it looks like. It looks like
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: I'm insane. Like, exactly. I need to go down to... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: So you do. Ridiculous. But I do. But see, I
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: love to get scared. Fear, fear, you know.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Makes you feel alive. It makes you feel alive.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fear can like freeze you in your tracks, make
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: you not live the life you want to live. Fear,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: live small, not make that phone call. Or fear is
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: the biggest motivator out there. You know, like I'm so
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: scared I'm going to ride that roller coaster. I'm so
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: scared and I'm going to go into that haunted house.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: I just.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Because I get like, you know, I get that. It's
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: interesting that you said the biggest, the biggest portal is
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: here because I get that, that, that feeling when it
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: goes in the back of my neck and I'm just like, Ooh,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: you know, and I'm such a scaredy cat. So I like,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I want to see it, but at the same time,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I'm too afraid. I, you know, it's just, it's just
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: one of those things because I, I, the hauntings to me,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: the places that you go, I wish I could remember
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: the name of it, but I went to that hotel
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: in Eureka Springs, Arkansas. Have you ever heard of that one?
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: It's like a famous haunted hotel. It's really cool. And
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I did the ghost tour there and it was really wild.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: And just it's like one of the most haunted hotels,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I think, in the U.S., Yeah. And it was really
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: interesting walking through that space.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I just was there. I'm like, I can't.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Remember the name of the hotel, but I don't remember
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: the name of anything.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know the something. It's beautiful. Yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: It's beautiful.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And the whole town is beautiful. Very creative.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I love it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I fell in love with that town. I was just there.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I stayed at this really great B & B that
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: was a steampunk themed and I was in the scream
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: punk room.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: It was fun. Yeah, that's a great little it is.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: It's a great town. They do cool things. They have
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: an alien thing there once a year. They probably are
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: doing something great for Halloween. I'm sure it's very artsy,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: very funky. But yeah. So when you when you are
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: working with. is it usually like ghost tours or ghost
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: hunters will call you and they'll be like, all right, Patty,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: we're going to film here. We're going to this location.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: And that's how you get to these haunted places. Or
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: do you kind of do these on your own too?
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: No, it's them. It's whether again, besides ghost adventures, I
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: work with the, it's the next generation is the YouTubers.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Overnight, Sam and Colby.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Faze rug, Rebecca's a model. All next generation. You know,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: now they're coming on to like Netflix and streaming and
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: my network, Paraflix. But no, I never know where I'm going, Melissa.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I never, I mean, I don't know where I'm going.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I'm blindfolded. I don't want to know left brain.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, so they don't let you know where you're going. Oh, wow.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Because they don't want you to research it. I get it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: That makes sense. They don't want you to know anything
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: about it. They don't want you to be able to
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: research it. They want it to be authentic. They need
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: your authentic reaction. That makes so much sense.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Even like, Yeah. And if I do know a location,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: like say it was a few ghost adventures, I sent
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Zach there. When he knows I have done investigations there
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: or know it, he won't have me going and going,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I feel this here. I'll say this is what I
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: experienced on my own. They're so in integrity that way.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: But I'm always scared to death. I really, it's like,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: what if I get.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Well, we're going to talk about some of your experiences
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: when we come back. So let's take our commercial here
• 27:06
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• 27:07
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  Speaker 2: what Can you share with us a couple of your
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  Speaker 2: most wild experiences you've ever witnessed or had while you
• 30:05
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• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have got some good ones over the years.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: The wildest one, the wildest one was right in my
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: own neighborhood. I live in the Hollywood Hills in the
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: oldest neighborhood. but my house is 1920. It was the
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  Speaker 3: first movie star enclave in the Hills right here. And
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: right down the street from me, this is a house
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: built by Charlie Chaplin. One of many for one of
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: his girlfriends, one of many, he Charlie Chaplin built a
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: lot of houses. And this one was for a movie
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: star of the day, Mary Astor, a silent movie star.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: And it was a super party house and they knew
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: how to party in the twenties and thirties and forties,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: which is not good or bad, but can bring in
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: a dark element. Um, Crazy party house in the 20s.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: In the 60s, the Rolling Stones manager bought the house.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: And Stones stayed there. Mamas and Papas, Graham Parsons, super
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: party house, creative, talented people, high vibration people there. They
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: were there for a long time. They moved out. Then
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: the person who invented the real life sex doll moved in.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Started getting too spooky for him. He moved out. And
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: then my neighbor, Marilyn Manson, moved in. And he recorded
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: the basement and everything. So they were doing a documentary
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: about the house, calling it the Mary Astor House. And
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: I was doing a seance. And the people around my
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: seance table were really young. You know, when you're really young,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: past puberty, but not too far into 20s, you have
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: so much life force. That's why cultural dice activity always
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: happens at that age, the teens and things. Well, this
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: was who was around the table. It was a big shoot.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: It was a four-camera shoot. And, again, this was a
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: film everybody were into. It wasn't like my private seances
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: where we just talked to grandma. We were going to
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: talk to who was there. And my one rule, though,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: is you have to be respectful. But this one kid
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: was not respectful. And that's when trouble starts. So we
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: started saying things. And there was one spirit who was
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: getting really angry. I felt it. So at first, cool
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: things happened. Like the front doors flew open and cameras
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: caught everybody screaming. And the producer's side was going, oh,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: that's cool. um again the french stores flew open um
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: but i felt this tension building this ghost was not
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: happy he was not demonic he was not but big
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: in life big in death bob the quiet banker is
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: bob the quiet boat some big old 20s 30s movie
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: stars big so all of a sudden the kid said
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: something else stupid and the speaker came on you know
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: old school how big can the speakers be if it
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: ever says how now how and came on it sounded
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: like a spirit box white noise wasn't even plugged in
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: came on but then he said something else really stupid
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: and not him but the cameraman facing him burst into
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: flames angel wings of fire up his back he was
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: not standing in front of a fireplace or a candle
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: spontaneous combustion two cameras caught it one camera started filming
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: the ceiling floor This, the poor guy who's burning up
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: from his back, like a V up his back, was
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: wondering why all of us are screaming at him, pointing
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: at him. Me, cool, psychic, witch, medium Patty becomes a
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: medic Patty, of which I am. I'm EMT certified.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. So he wasn't feeling it or it
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: didn't register yet?
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: It had not registered yet. We are screaming. It's all
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: so fast. And his shirt was burning off him like
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: it was synthetic. It was a cotton shirt. It should
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: not have burned off like an island or a polyester.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the blistering. I'm like, we're done. We
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: are done. I'm shutting down my guardians, shutting down. I go,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I've never stopped filming. I've never stopped a seance. But
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: this is not okay. We could all die. A small
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: room with a lot of people bursting into flames.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: No.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: But the guy who caught on fire, who was a
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: super skeptic, Laurent Malakai, He's like, I'm okay. He was
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: so intrigued by spontaneous combusting like the movie Spinal Tap.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: He's a movie maker in his own right. And the
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: kid who caused it with his disrespect was no longer
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: going to be disrespectful. He was like the choir boy
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: in the corner. Talk to the spirit, not this come,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: but like, come on, we're not even going to get
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: rid of you. We know this is your house. So
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: we did continue it. Crazy stuff, glasses flying out, crazy
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: stuff I've ever felt. Again, it's, you know, 20 houses
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: down from me. But the cool thing, again, about knowing
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: what you're doing, don't swim in the dark and dark
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: side till you know what you're doing. Three weeks later,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: the guy who caught on fire goes, Patty, send me
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: a picture first. He goes, look at my back. where
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: he had had the blistering on the small of his back,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: totally looked like he had got a tattoo of a dragon.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: No way.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Sharp teeth, winged head into the shape of a serpent.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. And that is the exact energy I
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: called in to shut down the seance. I'm a dragon.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Spooky, huh? I work dragon energy. That's who I called
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: my air and fire, water, earth. It's just because they're
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: crossroads beasts. And I'm, I am looking at that. I'm like,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: oh my God, you have a tramp stamp of a
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: dragon on your back. That is the coolest.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Well, thank God he survived. It was okay. Because that
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: could have been horrific.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: He was so intrigued. He actually, they haven't done it yet.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if they will. I hope so.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: He wrote a movie about this TV medium who did
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: every TV show and then a portal opened and it
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: turns into the most spooky, funny thing. horror shows that
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: I love. He actually wrote it with Stephen Norrington, the
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: guy who wrote League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and the Blade series. Again,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I hope somebody fabulous plays me. But if they do
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: do it, again, knowing what you're doing. That's wild. I
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: sat down with him for five hours and I went, Lauren,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: you can't say that on camera. But you said that.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I know I said that. That shifts energy. You don't
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: want to be one of those cursed horror films, do you?
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: It happens all the time.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like poltergeist. They say it was cursed. Yeah, yeah,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I remember that.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: A spirit doesn't know the difference of an after saying
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: lines and somebody else really opening a portal to hell.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: So if they ever do do it, the stuff that
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: whoever says just sounds just as spooky and mystical and magical,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: but it won't.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, I never thought about it, but that's so true.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: If you're filming and you're acting and you're doing this
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: in these locations... Yeah, like it's like you're playing like
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: they don't. That's what you're saying. That's what you're doing. Oh,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: that's wild. I never thought about it like that.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: If it's witchcraft, have somebody who knows witchcraft. If you're
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: doing a voodoo movie, have a voodoo priest or priestess. Yeah.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Anything you are doing, have somebody who knows because it
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: happens all the time.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Are there demonic forces? I get like some people tell
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: me that. Yes. Some people say, no, it's not really
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: that they're demonic. It's just that they're. They're shadowed, they're
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: grayed out because of their own traumas and all that
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So I'm just curious from your experience.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: No, I do believe in the demonics. It's just not
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: as much as everybody, especially on TV and my shows,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: goes to the demonic. I think 95% of what people
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: think are demonic are just cranky ghosts, just like what
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: happened with the fire. He was just cranky and theatrical
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: and wanted to do something. Yes, I do believe there
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: are real demonic and I've experienced it, but much less
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: than movies, television, film, books would make you think.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: So like things like The Exorcist, which is supposedly based
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: on a real experience and Amityville Horror House, which is
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: based on true story. Like, you know about what is that?
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Was that true?
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: These are all the Warrens, the Ed and Lorraine Warren stuff.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: My friends that I work with, you know, Elton Casta
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: and Matt Rife, the comedian who is, he's in paranormal.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: I didn't even know he was a standup. I just
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: knew he was the funniest investigator. It's like, why am
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I peeing my pants when I'm sitting in the scariest
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: place I've ever been? Cause he's so funny, but no. Yeah.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: And those were, I, I, I, I was, Just took
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: a picture with Annabelle. That's the one from The Conjuring.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, I know who she is. Oh, I know who
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: she is. I don't want to see her. I'm not interested.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: The traveling. I don't want.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Nothing to do with that. I had one time. I
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: toured with her most of last year. And I just
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: saw her last week. Now that she's got a home
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: in Salem. Is she happy? I think she's happy. She
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: was okay. The one time on my tour. I think
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: we were in Kentucky at Scarefest. And I, cause she
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: travels with a priest because it's very Catholic oriented to
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Ed and Lorraine. And I did, I go, father Bob,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: I would like your, your blessing after this meeting. And
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: he was so cute because he knows me well. We're friends.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: He goes, it's going to be a Catholic blessing. Is
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: that okay? I'm like, yeah, that's what I would want
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: from you. I don't need some pagan witch blessing. You're
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: a Catholic priest. He's so cute. Yeah.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: So is, is the doll that haunts Annabelle, I mean,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: the spirit that haunts Annabelle an evil spirit or just
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: a very grumpy spirit who doesn't want to be bothered
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: with and everybody's bothering it all the time.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Annabelle's a tough one. I, I honestly, I can't tell
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: if she's just really dark and something created like a
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: an egregore or a servitor or something created over that,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: that's just dark over or that she's demonic. I really
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: have not dug deep enough into her to figure that out.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: No.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: It's a, that's what I'm saying. So you hear these
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: stories like the, the exorcist, I mean, was she really
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: possessed by a demonic spirit? Is that what they, that's
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: what they say, but. Is that true or?
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: I do think it can happen. I do think it
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: can happen. And, you know, it's tough because demonic possession
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: and mental illness can be extraordinarily.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I was just thinking exactly what you were saying. Yes.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: And I think both are real. I think one could
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: even lead to the other. And yeah. Yeah.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: And so now you're, you were, before we went on,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: she was telling me that you're going to Salem, right?
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: In a few days. And you're going to be doing
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: a stand. So anybody who's listening from Salem, is it,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: is it available for people to come and see you?
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Yes. And this is going to be really special because
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: it's small. I'm so used to the 70 people. This
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: is going to be small around a real seance table.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Very exclusive. Yes. The dead.com festival of the dead. You
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: could look at my social media and find it about
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Patty Negri social media. But it's going to both be
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: educational and a real seance. I'm going to talk about
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: the old school tools, dowsing rods and things. And I'm
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: going to talk about a little bit of the modern equipment,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: what confirms it. You know, the K2 meters and stuff.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: But then we're going to really do this. Because the
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: veil is thin right now. It's Samhain. It's Halloween. Now
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: is the time to talk to the dead. So it's
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: a rare opportunity. It's just going to be a handful
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: of people. We do still have tickets left. So hurry up.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Go to Festival of the Dead. I think mine is
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: called something of the dead. I don't know, but it goes.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: They'll find you if they go to contact me, DM me. Yeah,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: because underneath our video, there's going to be all your
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: information with a link to your website so people can
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: find you wherever. And so let's talk a little bit.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: You have a podcast, right? A weekly podcast called The
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Witching Hour. And then you also co-host The Witch's Movie Coven.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Is that a video podcast or audio?
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: That's a video. That one's live on YouTube. Mine, Witching Hour,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I think I'm in my seventh year. I've got two
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: awards so far. It's like my producer, Rob Cohen- Um,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I just love it. I forget you on my beautiful guests.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: It's all educational about my guests and it's half spiritual
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: witchy and then half paranormal. So while my ghost adventures
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: people or my YouTube people, or just a lot of
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: authors and things, which is movie coven is a live thing.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: We started, I don't know how many years and it's five,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: which is talking about witchy movies and which is a movie.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Heather green, who wrote the book on witches and movies, um,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Jason Mankey, Courtney Buckley, Richard Lael, Lillard and myself. And
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: then we have these amazing regular guests all the time.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Scarlett Amara is Jenny C. Bell.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: And you can watch that on YouTube. The Witches.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: I'm on YouTube every Wednesday tonight. We will be 6 p.m. Pacific,
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: 9 p.m. Eastern. Go to YouTube. The Witches Movie Coven. Oh, fun.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I'm going to start. I'm going to follow your channel
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: because I love that kind of stuff.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: And you're live. So you guys are in the live
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: chat room and we vote wands up, wands down. Last
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: week we did a really dark and scary one. So
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: this week we're doing paranormal, an animated one. We'll do
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: everything from the classics, the Wizard of Oz, the practical magics,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: the clue to... the bad B movies from the seventies
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: and eighties, the satanic panic.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Those are really good though. Those bad ones. Oh yeah.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: We love the bad and we agree with each other.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: One will love it and one will hate it. And yeah, it's,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: it's a nice midweek laugh.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, that sounds like a lot of fun. I'm going
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: to definitely go over there and subscribe because I love
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. And you're also a founding partner and
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: vice president of a paranormal streaming service called Paraflex. Yes, Paraflex.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: So talk about Paraflex. What can people find? How do
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: they watch it? Where do they find it? What do
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: you show on it?
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: We are everything. We started this, my partner Natalie and I,
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: I think also about seven, I just did seven years ago.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Start a school, start an international school, start a show network,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: start a podcast. There were two more TV shows, yeah.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: But at that time, you know, we were on Travel Channel.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: We had already seen everything on Discovery and Sci-Fi. Yeah.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Five times over. I knew there was good content. So
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: we were the first to start us all paranormal and
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: we're adding more and more spirituality and more and more
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: from music videos to podcasts to original series. It's called Paraflix.com.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: You can get it everywhere. We have Roku. We have Apple.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: We have Fire Stick. We have AOS. We have iPhone.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: You can watch it.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: It's a streaming network for paranormal.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Only it's cheap. It's like five bucks a month instead
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: of 14 or 15.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: And go to paraflix.com. You will see hundreds of shows
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: you haven't seen before. Really good.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: And movies. Oh, that we just, I've, I've got some
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: of my favorite. We've pulled a few from Amazon on it.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: And again, it's way affordable. Half or a third of most.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: And for all of us who've seen everything else on discovery.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: And sometimes people like that, like they're so into the paranormal,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: like they don't want to watch and pay for all
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: the others just to see one or two shows. They
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: really want a channel like Gaia TV was very specific.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: People that were into the spirituality. So it makes sense
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: to have a place that you, and you created it.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: You know, it'd be interesting. You should, I don't know
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: if you, if you do astrology, but you should have
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: an astrologer. Do your chart about seven years ago. What
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: was going on that all these things were hitting you
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: at one time?
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: I know. What was I thinking while I ever sleep again?
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: You also have a university. What's it called? I have
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: a school.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: I have a magic university magic because we call it
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: a real life Hogwarts. I teach every Tuesday. My partner, Sebastian,
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: teaches Wednesday. He teaches his kind of magic. I teach witchcraft,
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: psychic development, mediumship. When we started it, I wanted something affordable.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: I'd see these other TV mediums charging thousands of dollars,
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: which is fine. I couldn't have done that. So literally
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: ours is 20 bucks a class or less. We have
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: stockpiles of hundreds you can get. I have teachers all
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: over the world. I have a guy now in Italy
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: teaching a Strega Italian magic. Now that I've known him
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: so long, he speaks English. A guy in Brazil teaching
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Brazilian healing. I have people in the UK teaching their
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: kind of math, all different formats of And we can't
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: even be a cult because I won't let the teacher
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: say this is the truth. They say this is a
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: truth or this is my truth. So we all teach
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: you find what works for you.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: And so this is all online so we can take
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: it from anywhere.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Like last night, I taught how to create luck, a
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: manifestation of luck class, both in the chance luck and
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: the planned luck and the opportunity luck. And it's about
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: every class about an hour and a half. You get
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: a video the next day. So it's intimate. So even
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: say if 50 people signed up for the class, which
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: is normal, it's 2 a.m. in the UK. Most people
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: wait for the video the next day. So everybody.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Cause it's recorded.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Like a little 15 or 20 person zoom screen. So
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: it's really interactive and immersive. And then everybody else you
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: have get to collect the videos. So yeah, that's my passion.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: That's cause I'm a teacher at heart. Even if I'm
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: on some TV show or, All the, all the paracons
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: I go to and the workshops I do and the
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: panels at heart empowering people just like you.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: What's your sign?
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: I'm a Libra. Birthday's next week.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Makes sense. Happy birthday. Do you know your moon sign
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: and you're rising?
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: All I know is Sag rising and I, I, I
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: love it.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, I can see you Sag.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: It doesn't stick in my brain. I can never remember
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: my moon. I mean, I have it written in a
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: thousand places.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. No, but that makes, I can
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: see the Libra Sag. So that makes a lot of
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: sense to me. I could totally say, I'm learning astrology now.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: So I'm so fascinated by it and seeing how it
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: correlates with everything else. So, yeah, you have a lot
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: going on, Patty, like seriously. I mean, I don't know
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: how you even find downtime to just like even sit
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: down and read or watch anything yourself.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: I sleep on planes. I watch like one thing a
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: week because we have to for the movie, Kevin. I
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: catch up on television movies on planes because I'm on
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: at least two a week.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: And it works.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: You know, I put my, thank goodness. I have a
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: beautiful understanding husband. He's a drummer and a beautiful little
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: dog and cat. And we may don't have quality time,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: but we have, we don't have quantity time, but we
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: have quality time.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Well, look at Dolly Parton. She never saw her husband.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: They were married forever. So it works, you know, sometimes
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: it works that way. It's good. So, so Patty, after
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: everything you've experienced, the spirits, the haunted location, mediumship, magic,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: What do you believe that happens to us after we
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: pass on this body? And has your beliefs changed as
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: you've gotten deeper into this kind of work?
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: I seriously believe that nothing dies. Science has proved that.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I like to always compare science with religion.
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: Me too.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Science means nothing can die. Energy, the meat suit dies.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: We don't have the meat suit. That goes away. So
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: I like things like dumb suppers and things where you
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: celebrate the spirit, not the dead embalmed meat suit. My
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: closest belief system is almost that of the ancient Sumerians
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: who kind of believed you kind of create and go
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: to the afterlife you believe in. So if you're a
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: pearly gates person, you're going to go to that pearly gates.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: I do believe in reincarnation. I know who I was
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: in a couple of my past lives and been able
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: to prove addresses and things. But, but again, if there's
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: no time and space on the other side, which I
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: believe you can be in the pearly gates, watching the
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: kids grow up, being somebody else somewhere else, and then
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: hanging out at the beach all at the same time.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I kind of, I think that you
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: do say it's Sumerian kind of, I think I sort of, I, I,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: I sort of believe exactly what you believe. I feel
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: like whatever you imagine it to be, it will be
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: created that way for you.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: And, and I don't, and with reincarnation, I don't think
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: I'm a hundred percent that person you get essences of,
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: essences of not, I'm Barbara Lamar. I'm Cleopatra. I'm whoever.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: So there might be several of you doing that. Yeah.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: So of all the work that you're doing, your favorite
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: is teaching?
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  Speaker 3: I think I, well, I always want to do all
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  Speaker 3: of it because I, I get antsy. I like being
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: on the road.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: That's your Sagittarius. Your Sagittarius love to travel.
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  Speaker 3: I like, I love people is what it is. I
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: love people and I love, reminding people how powerful they are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Just like why I love your show. You're about manifest.
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  Speaker 3: You can have anything you want. I sincerely 100% believe that.
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  Speaker 3: And it's got so taught out of us. So whether it, again,
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: is on a TV show or a YouTube page or
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: an Instagram page, it's about you finding your magic just
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: like you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about finding your magic. And do you have
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  Speaker 2: a daily practice for, that you do or anything you
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: want to share with us that we could do maybe
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: to connect with our loved ones on the other side
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: or ground ourselves in mother nature or get, find more
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: abundance in our hearts. Like what do you do on
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: a regular basis?
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Well, you change your perception. Your perception is everything. So
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: look at the way abundance is abundant. You have abundant things.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: We know that. But to me, it's getting out in nature. I,
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: My daily workout, again, I'm in Hollywood. I'm in the hills.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Deers play in my backyard. I go up to Lake Hollywood,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: which is a man-made reservoir.
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  Speaker 2: I know your neighborhood. I've been through there.
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  Speaker 3: I love the hills.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: The hills are amazing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So that's where I went so long. I'm in town
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: every day. I go out there when it's cold, when
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: it's hot to get out in nature. That's my sanity.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: I have lots of little rituals. I talk to my dragons.
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  Speaker 3: I feed my dragons. What do we need today? I've
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: many fetishes created. I mean, almost any flat surface in
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: my house is an altar of some sort.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 3: It's so crazy. Getting connected to nature. Again, those little
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: elementals are everywhere, like you said.
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  Speaker 2: I know. And I started hardcore going on these visual
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  Speaker 2: journeys a little over a year ago. Maybe it's almost
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: two now. I'm terrible with remembering time or anything. And
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: a dragon came. And I see my dragon every morning.
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  Speaker 2: I have a connection with him.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: He comes every morning. Start to feed him. Put a little,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: like the lid off a water bottle and give them
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: some water. They'll thrive.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. That's good to know. Because I do in my,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: in my mind's eye, we're in somewhere. We're somewhere in
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: another area.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: You know, but like, yeah, but I don't have them.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: I don't have a representation of them on my altar.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: I should do that.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. We need dragons now. Like go into any
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: metaphysical store, there's dragons because there's no solid ground. So
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: why not have a crossroads be second fly from heaven
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  Speaker 3: to earth?
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So is there anything that you, we have a
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: few minutes left before we sign off. Is there anything
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: that you want to share about you or that you're
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: doing for everybody who's listening?
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Just, this is a really great month to, to remember
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: your ancestors, whether you have to do a seance or not,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: you know, bring a picture of grandma out, light a candle,
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: talk about it, do some memories. Cause that's what this
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: season going into the dark time is. And come see me.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: I am somewhere every single week. This week, Salem. Next week,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Ohio for Ohio Witches Walk and Sandusky and Firelands Paracon.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: The next week, I'm going to be in Kentucky for Scarefest.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: The week after that, I think Texas. No, I'm all
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: over the country. So come say hi. Hang out with me.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: And if not, they can find you on your show,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: The Witching Hour, and The Witch's Movie Coven, and also
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: your network.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, on Paraflix. I'm all over Paraflix. But go to pattynegri.com
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: because there's hundreds of free videos of little magic lessons
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: and educational stuff. Hundreds. You can get to all my podcasts.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: You can get to my books. You can get to
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: more Patty than you ever want. Watch a video about dragons.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Get yourself a dragon.
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Mine just came to me one day. I wasn't expecting it.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: I just came. So I was very excited that he
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: came to me. So that's pretty cool. Now, Patty, do you,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: you probably, I'm assuming, this is me just assuming that
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: you really don't see one-on-one clients anymore or do you?
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: You do. Oh my God.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You don't sleep. I think I saw four or
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: five yesterday. Okay. Okay.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: So if people wanted to have a consultation with you,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: you do do that.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Mostly on zoom. I mean, honestly, if you are sitting
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: here in LA and Hollywood, do you want to come?
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: We will sit at my dining room table, but most
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: people are all over the world. So it's just, just
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: click book Patty. I literally it's hard again, cause I'm
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: only in town two or three days a week right now,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: but I saw like five people yesterday. I still, it's
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: my passion again. That's part of the empowering people. I'm
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: not a spooky psychic. I'm medium.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: It's like, let's look at your life and what you
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: want it to be. And let's see what's going on.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: With a little, with a little sprinkle of magic on
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: the side. I love that. Well, I want to thank
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: you so much, Patty, for joining me today. It was
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: such a pleasure having you on and I really, really
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: enjoyed it. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'll see
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: all of her information below and reach out to Patty.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: All right, everybody. Thank you for listening to Postcards to
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: the Universe with Melissa, creating the life you crave. And
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I'm wishing everyone a wonderful week filled with joy, abundance,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: and magic.
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  Speaker 4: Peace.