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MLB Just Changed How You’ll Watch Baseball · The 3-0 Take

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What's that mean? Where it's the guy from Always
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Sunny in Philadelphia and there's just like red lines all
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over the place and he's losing his mind.
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That's what it's like to try and figure out where I can watch
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these damn games. Where do I go?
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How do I do it? How much money does it cost?
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the three OT where we talk all
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things Major League Baseball. Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate
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Reyes it all. Starts.
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Right now who? Welcome back to the three I take
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presented by Schnook Cedar. This episode 583.
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I'll be your host, Kyle Korne. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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Reyes. Nate Casey, How are we?
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Emphasis on we. We.
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We've got a friend got a friend, our friend Josh Booth on the PS
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and QS Welcome to the show. We're going to be If you've been
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following us for any length of time, you know we have a fantasy
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league. Josh is in that fantasy league.
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Die hard Pirates fan, but I won't seal his Thunder.
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But he is he he will be serving as as basically an extra set of
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hands for us because it's all we can do to pull off a regular
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show on any given day. So he said, Josh, maybe give us,
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give us a hand, be our be our researcher, be our producer,
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just be our be our guy, be our go to guy.
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And so now that we are in full offseason mode, figured what
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time better than now. So we have, we have a Josh here
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with us. If you're watching on YouTube,
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you can you can see him down there in a corner.
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He's he's hanging out with us. Josh, glad to have you on here,
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man. I am pumped man, real excited to
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to get going so. Let the folk let the folks know
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about about who you are. Yeah, plug, plug JB.
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Yeah, yeah, let's let's do the quick and dirty that that that
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you said husband to Katie, dad of three, baseball fan, Pirates
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fan, stat head. Let's go.
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I love it. I love it.
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Yeah, yeah, just really just a baseball guy.
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Been listening to you guys for a while.
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Gotten to know you over the the fantasy chat.
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Pretty pumped about this man. For those who don't know that,
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if if you have multiple monitors, if you're one of those
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people at your desk, it has multiple monitors and you're
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just like a ChatGPT guru and it's all just always up.
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You always got it left up. That's Josh.
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But with baseball reference, that's just it's it dominates
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its own screen. So having to have JB on the on
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the team, man, this is going to be fun.
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We're going to things are stayed normal.
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You know, nothing's really going to change, but Josh is going to
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be able to Fact Check us when needed and and look up some
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stuff when we need it 'cause I talk out of my booty hole so
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often. So Josh is going to keep us
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honest. You know more me than anything.
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Yeah, we're going to have to develop a nickname too.
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JB is a good start. JB is a good start.
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JB in the corner. Well, we'll, we'll see what
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happens. It'll develop naturally, I'm
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sure. It will.
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Any who's we're in the offseason and I think we mentioned at the
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end of last episode that we're trying to we're going to mix
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things up a little bit. We're going to get weird as we
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usually do, but just trying to shuffle things up a little bit.
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So we've got got a couple couple new things, couple different
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things planned for for these episodes this offseason.
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So let's start with a little bit of a little bit of a fan
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engagement. Read some, some, some reading of
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the comments, if you will. I put out a prompt on Facebook,
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put out a post like today, yesterday.
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This will probably be our home for it, by the way, This is
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something we're going to try to do maybe at least for the
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offseason. So if you're not following us on
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Facebook, go hop on there because that's where the comment
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section you that comment section goes nuts.
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So for better for Facebook followers, Yeah, better.
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Mostly, mostly worse, but sometimes it's better.
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Hopefully this one's better. But yeah, I, I, yeah, like Nate
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said, go follow us on Facebook. But I put out a post the other
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day, it said give us your craziest MLB game day story, not
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quote that time I spilled my beer.
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We're talking truly insane experience.
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No, no rhyme or reason as to why we went with that, but we
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figured we we, we will mix the prompts up over the over the
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offseason and and really just dive into some some of your old
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thoughts, some of your comments, some of your stories.
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And boy, there were some great responses to this kind of
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overwhelming, to be honest with you.
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Some of these I was like didn't even didn't know we had people
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following us that that live that kind of life as a fan, but one
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of these in particular I wanted to read.
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So let me let me shout out our guy Justin.
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Oh. Boy is it Musumecki.
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Come on man, you could. You had to set yourself up for
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the hardest last name on the entire.
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How would you spell this or how would you pronounce this
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MUSUMECI? Say it again.
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MUSUMECI. Musamechi, Musamechi.
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Musamechi, Musamechi. Apologies, Justin.
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Right. Yeah, nailed it by the way.
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Musumechi. That's it.
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How do you how do you know this? I I don't know.
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No, not you, Josh. How how is he?
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How is he? Did he did he message Justin?
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I just googled it. Yeah, that's what he's here for.
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Look immediately. Look at that immediately.
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Course correct. Look at that, all right, Justin?
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Justin said to the prompt of give us your craziest MLB
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experience. And, and just letting you know,
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it's a little bit lengthy, but this is quite the story, Justin
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said. Buckle everybody, Everybody said
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a story. Story time with with Uncle
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Casey, Justin said. Summer of 1999, I was in the 5th
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grade attending a day camp run by my elementary school in
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Manhattan. One morning during drop off, my
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friend's dad told my dad that a company he worked with gave him
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two tickets for the Yankee game that Sunday, but his family was
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going to their house in Montauk for the weekend and they
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couldn't make the game. Knowing we were huge fans.
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My birthday was the next week and we had taken the sun to some
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games in the past. He offered them to my dad and I.
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We gladly accepted them and saw they were special tickets
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because they came with parking passes and Yankee club passes,
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but at the time there was no way of Googling to see exactly where
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the seats were. We also knew it was going to be
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Yogi Berra Day, the first time Yogi was back in the stadium
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after his long time beef with Seinbrenner.
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On the day of the game my dad and I went early and arrived
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around 11:00 AM for the 135 start.
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We show our parking passes and are directed to park in the lot
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directly across from old Yankee Stadium which turned out to be
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the player's lot and then directed to use the press
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entrance. Upon entering we see Whitey Ford
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and his wife. Ford tells her to go to the
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seats and he'll meet her after. He goes to the bar and then the
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pre game ceremony. His wife rides the elevator with
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us to the seating level. We go to our seats and they're
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in the first row behind home plate.
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We then go to the Yankees club. Dad gets a beer, I get a ginger
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ale. We leave the Yankee club to go
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to our seats for Yogi's ceremony and as the elevator doors are
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closing someone yells hold it. To this day, 26 years later, I
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still remember thinking we're going to miss the start of the
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ceremony. A Yankee attendant sticks their
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arm in the doors and they open and in walks, you guessed it,
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George Steinbrenner and Yogi Berra.
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It's just me, Dad, Yogi and George standing in a normal size
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elevator and I'm in disbelief. One of those moments you can't
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believe is actually happening feels like a dream in your mind.
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But the adrenaline pulsing through your veins remind you
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it's entirely real. We exchange pleasantries and
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tell Yogi how happy we are to see him back in the stadium.
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And I asked them if they'll sign our program.
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They say yes. As I give it to George to sign,
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he says quote the man of the day.
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First Yogi signs, then George. We go to our seats and watch the
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pregame ceremony, ending with Don Larson throwing out the
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first pitch to Yogi. Then David Cone proceeds to
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pitch a perfect game against the Expos, all with me and Dad
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sitting in the center of the first row and in just about
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every TV frame. It was easily a top five most
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incredible experience of my life, sports related or
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otherwise, and a day I'll never forget.
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I mean, is that not the most It's just insane poll.
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Like what a crazy story I just had my.
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Dream day. That's so sick.
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That's unbelievable. That's so good.
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It's going to be hard to it's going to be hard to continue
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this. That's always going to be
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stories. But like, man, that's good.
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That's a heck of a way to start our our, our segment with this,
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but. Justin has a future in in, I
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don't know, some kind of. Storytelling.
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Write a. Book or something man jeez.
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Well, I was trying, I mean. On the edge of my seat.
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I'm I'm reading these comments and I'm like, I what, what is
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like my craziest game day experience?
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I I couldn't anywhere near that, not even close.
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I don't. Even want to tell any stories
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because that's that's unbelievable.
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That's sick, man. Shout out to the family that
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went to Montauk because those those jokers didn't know and
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David Cohen with the perfect game just being like like a
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cherry on top. It's like, not even that.
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Yeah. It's not even like the highlight
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of the story like. You're like, that's a cool story
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I got to go to. I sat front row, first row,
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watched the perfect behind home. Blade.
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Alone is insane but. Man, there's so many layers to
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that. Sitting behind home plate first
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row, that's a story in and of itself.
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And then it's like, I was actually there for a perfect
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game. And then I'll, yeah, by the way,
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ran into George and Yogi in the in the elevator on Yogi day.
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Like insane. But yeah, just just wanted to
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like I said this, this will be something that I think we'll
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we'll try to we'll try to roll out as the offseason continues.
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Just a way to get honestly, you know what, it was I I wanted to
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introduce different segments so we could stay as far away from
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the free agency and trade rumors as possible.
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And I tell you what, I've done such a fantastic job to this
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point staying away. I haven't.
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I haven't. I haven't bitten on any on any
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of the bait, any of the hooks, nothing.
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I've stayed completely away. John Heyman doesn't exist.
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Doesn't even exist to this doesn't.
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Matter to. Me, even Jeff Passan, which
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we'll get into it. Talk about the pirates.
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Go pirates. Talk about the pirates.
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Like of all people to be talking about the Pirates, I'm like, OK,
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well, this this is pumping up the heads of Pirates fans all
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over the nation. When when you get Jeff Passan
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finally validating it a little bit.
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And it's not it's not John Heyman running his mouth.
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But yeah, we'll get into that. Some of the other things we'll
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get into we're we're talking the Josh Naylor extension, the
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Taylor Ward, Grayson Rodriguez trade, pirate spending.
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As I mentioned, some some new TV deals coming for Major League
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Baseball, but let's start let's start with the Josh Naylor
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extension. It was real announced a few days
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ago that Naylor had signed A5 year contract to return to the
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Mariners. Staying put in Seattle locks him
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up through the 2030 season, includes a full no trade clause
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and is worth 92 and a half million with no.
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I love, I love how these these reports have to include this
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now. No deferrals.
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So what was that? No deferrals.
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No deferrals. Do we like this move?
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Do we like, do we like a lineup that currently includes Cal
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Raleigh, Josh Naylor, Julio, Julio?
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I wanted to kind of, I mean initial feel.
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I just didn't get like that. I don't know what it was.
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It just it didn't I didn't get the whole warming fuzzies when
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he was there. I know it wasn't very long.
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I don't know if it's also the fact because I wanted to look up
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like other first baseman free agents and there is kind of some
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fall off I guess after Pete Alonso.
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But I I don't know. I mean I.
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For. I don't know, I don't even know
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how to spit ball, but maybe 7 to 10 million more.
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AAV could you have gotten a Pete Alonzo?
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You know, could you have? I mean, I I like that they they
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struck it first. I like that they went and just
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got it. I I it just makes me wonder, you
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know, I don't, I just, I don't know if Josh Naylor is like the
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truth. I don't know if that's like, you
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know what I mean? I don't know if I want to just
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commit to him being in the middle of the lineup.
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Like, I I haven't seen enough of it to be like, yeah.
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And not to mention he's below average at first base.
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Like, it, it's just kind of odd to me.
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It doesn't. I thought it was a nice move
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last year just to go and get it and like you're making a run and
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like let's let's go get a lefty bat with some pop.
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But it's, it's strange to me that you know, you're committing
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to it for the next 5 years and pretty shaky defense.
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I don't know. That's that's kind of what hit
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me first. Is it a sign that we're just
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getting old, that Josh Naylor just doesn't bother me the same
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way he used to? Is this just something that
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comes with age that comes with time?
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Because I feel like that's been the case for a lot of guys over
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the years, right? Initially couldn't stand them.
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Not Josh Naylor, just, you know, generally some of the like just
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guys that I wasn't necessarily a fan of.
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And then 5-6 years pass. I'm like, hey, let's take it
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easy on XYZ. Honestly, I feel like you, you
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mentioned, you mentioned Pete Alonso.
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That's already a name that I'm having to soften the blow on
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because it there's sounds like there's a good chance that he
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ends up in Boston. So I'm already having to walk
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that back a little bit, but. Yeah, it's going to be tough for
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you. It's.
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Going to be a tough offseason, but is is Josh Naylor a guy for
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you that because you mentioned you didn't get the warmer and
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fuzzies, but is is Josh Naylor a guy that has maybe rode into I.
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Mean, I don't know him. He, I mean, he for obvious
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reasons, you know, the whole, you know, home run off of coal
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couple post seasons ago and the ridiculous home run trot.
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But I don't know, just more like on the Mariners side.
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It's just it feels like what you had wasn't enough to get the job
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done. It just feels like a weird like,
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yeah, let's run it back with him.
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I don't know. I don't know what it is like.
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I'm just like I if you're, if you're inching that much closer,
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you've now solidified, you know, an MVP caliber performance out
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of two guys. By the way, Julio ended up
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having a really good year and I think was like top 7 or top five
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in votes, something like that. This second-half was was
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significantly better. So it's just I don't it it seems
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odd to me that like he, Josh Naylor was not enough to get you
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over the hump. And I know it's not like just
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falls on him, but just feels weird that like they weren't
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more creative. They weren't willing to maybe
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double down and go get a name like a Pete Alonso and imagine
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that 234, you know, like. But who's to say they're done
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though? Because I, I think with the way
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that the last few years have gone, they've all but all right.
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Pigeonhole's a weird word to use, but they basically pigeon
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them, pigeonholed themselves into needing to actually do
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something in the offseason. You can't, if you're the
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manners, you can't just skate by with like, well, we're happy
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with who we've got. They've they've gone, they've
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gone too far now they've they've shown too much to to then just
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pull out the rug and be like, well, we're we're going to keep
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it in house And and you know, we'll bring back Naylor, but
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we're we're kind of cool in it otherwise, I mean.
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That's a good point. I, I'd like to, I'd like to see,
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I got to remind myself this isn't their only move.
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Hopefully I, I'd like to see them do a little bit more.
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You know, Gino being a free agent.
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So there's obviously a hole at third base.
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You know, I maybe there's a run out of Beau Bichette, you know,
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and, and moving him to second, you know, there's I think
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there's some stuff that they could do, but I would like to
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see them kind of solidify that. And I think it's just like the
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the defense being subpar and I don't know how subpar it is, but
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that's just the narrative that I feel like I've been I've been
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fed that it's like the bat isn't good enough to be ADH towards
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the end of that contract. You know, I don't know, maybe
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he'll he'll make me eat my words.
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And there's also this like lingering thing that it's like
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some hitters just flat out can't hit in Seattle.
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And there's been multiple hitters that have come out and
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said, I hate it there. I can't see the ball.
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And it makes you wonder that like, I don't know, is he one of
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them or is he not? I don't know if last year was
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enough of a sample size, just like to see how this goes.
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But I would like, I, I want them to do more.
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I would, I want Seattle to do more and maybe go get this,
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this, this guy from Japan and kind of double down, maybe let
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him play third to for the, you know, this next year or two
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until he kind of fades into a first baseman or DH.
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Like I, I want more oomph in that lineup basically.
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I hope this this is just the latest step for the Mariners in
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the process of crafting their identity further, building their
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identity further. And and I mean, frankly, just
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making themselves a destination, like having like being becoming
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an appealing destination for these free agents where it's
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like, OK, they're actually, because we have this
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conversation all the time. Who's actually making an effort
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to put themselves in a position to win or to at least make a run
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at this thing and who's not? And if the Mariners can, you
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know, they've they've had, there's been, there's been
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narratives with, you know, how they spend money, how they
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acquire their talent OR, or you know, lack thereof.
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However it is you want to approach it.
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If if this is one of multiple moves, great.
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But again, if this is it, or if this is, if this is their big
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splash, if you will, then it's like, OK, well, I guess run it
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back again next year. See, see what magic you can
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make. But I've, I would, I would be
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much, I would feel much better about the Mariners if, if, if
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they continue to, to supplement this.
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I think this and this is it feels like the kind of I don't
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know what years are looking like as far as control goes, but it
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feels like we're kind of coming down to an end of like that,
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that early 20 teens Detroit Tigers type rotation where
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you're like, we're going to look past this in 10 years and be
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like, you had all of these names and you didn't win 1.
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You know, that's what it's going to end up being.
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And I feel like we're right on the brink of, you know, Kirby
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being gone and Logan Gilbert being gone and, like, Brian Wu
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becomes the guy. And, you know, it's just, I hope
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that they can do it during this window where there's still
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control, somewhat affordable. But I don't know.
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I don't know. We've wanted a lot out of them
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over the last few years and it's just felt like they've haven't
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delivered fully. Speaking of control and arms,
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Baltimore Orioles parted away with Grayson Rodriguez in a
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trade for Taylor Ward. In fact, this one truthfully
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just kind of fell from the clouds.
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Honestly, like I was just just going about my what would that
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have been Tuesday evening and all of a sudden I get the
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update, which I have to say, you catch the.
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Ryan Ripken response. I did, but I that wasn't even
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the response that it that it that intrigued me or I'll, I'll
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say shocked me. It was the, it was the the Jeff
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Passan tweet. Like, I don't know if it caught
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him by surprise too, 'cause he first of all, it seems like the
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Orioles broke the trade because he quote tweeted the O's tweet
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and an all just like regular sentence case.
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No breaking, no no all caps, no nothing.
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He just said trade news. Taylor Ward's going to Baltimore
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and Grayson Rodriguez to the Angels.
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So I don't like, I don't know how under the radar this move
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was that that even Jeff Passan isn't breaking it, that he's
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quote tweeting the the OS. But yeah, this just seemed like
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this was a little bit of a head scratcher.
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I don't, I don't dislike it. I think there's, there's maybe
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pros and cons to, to both, but I, I just wasn't anticipating
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the OS viewing this as the offseason that they needed to
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ship out Grayson Rodriguez. It just feels like a really like
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sell low. I'm I'm very confused by what
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the Orioles are doing because like over the last few off
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seasons and trade deadlines, we were told that this is like
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their future ace. We were told, you know what I
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mean? Like that was.
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Do you think they do you think they know something?
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Do you think they know something?
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The guys made a glass. I don't know, maybe it's I don't
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know. It's sort of like Taylor what
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that you couldn't get anything more out of what the potential
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ceiling for Grayson Rodriguez is.
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Well, no disrespect, but like, well, I've you just.
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Said like he's made out of glass and you feel like the OS are
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selling low, which I I would kind of agree on on both fronts.
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But if that if, if that's what the rest of the league is seeing
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and you can still manage to get Taylor Ward like I'd, I don't
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hate it. I don't know, JB, what's the
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Taylor Ward contract look like, 'cause that to me is strange.
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They don't know what they're doing as far as like
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right-handed pop. Like they're just throwing.
24:53
I think they're blindly just throwing stuff at a dartboard.
24:57
Like the last few years it's been like, let's see what we can
24:59
get out of Gary Sanchez. Let's see what we can get out of
25:02
Tyler O'Neill and then now Taylor Ward.
25:04
It's just like these like, why? At this point in the offseason,
25:09
why it? I feel like it could have been
25:14
another name other than Grayson Rodriguez.
25:16
I think it's just strange. I like it for the Angels because
25:21
it's like, why not? Let's take a lottery.
25:24
Ticket, yeah, I mean they you can get, they had a little bit
25:26
of a log jam out there in the outfield.
25:28
So I mean, why not? Why not get especially?
25:31
I mean, Joe, Joe like truly came onto the scene last year, right?
25:34
So. Yeah, how about that?
25:35
That's your guy it. It only took freaking four
25:38
years, JB, what you got? Yeah, Taylor Ward last year of
25:42
arbitration projected at 13.7 million.
25:48
So it's a little better than a rental I.
25:52
It's a one year deal. I don't understand.
25:57
It doesn't make any sense to me. I'm very lost.
26:01
I could, I could very, I could very easily see the OS letting
26:05
this this last year ride out and be like, thanks for your
26:08
service. We'll we'll look elsewhere
26:11
around the league to fill this slot.
26:12
And then you just, you just let Grace and Rodriguez go.
26:15
Yeah, we'll run it with like Jorge Salaire next year at age
26:20
36, whatever he's going to be like.
26:22
I just don't. I don't understand.
26:24
It's directionless. It's.
26:26
Who's also with the angels, by the way?
26:28
Yeah, which would be even funnier.
26:31
Whatever, keep doing what you're doing, I guess enjoy the bottom
26:34
of the division. I don't no, I'm being mean.
26:36
I think everybody was like higher on them.
26:38
They just underperformed last year.
26:40
But I don't know. Maybe maybe like you said, maybe
26:47
they know some. We don't know.
26:48
Maybe they are about to go hard at their rotation the rest of
26:53
the the offseason. I'm I'm lost.
27:02
I I tell you what. Man trade for Scubal.
27:09
They got the farm, they got the. Pieces.
27:11
They've had the pieces, they've had the money.
27:14
That's that's what's weird too, because like, what are we
27:17
pieces? You could go get a Taylor Ward
27:19
with anyone else in your farm. What are we waiting for like
27:23
this? I think he pissed somebody off.
27:26
I think, I think Grayson said something to somebody they
27:28
shouldn't have said. And like, all right, watch this.
27:31
You're gone. Like I they could have done it
27:35
with anybody else. Angels would have taken
27:40
anything. Angels have taken anything, they
27:45
don't care. They don't.
27:47
Yeah, dude, I'm I couldn't be more out on the Orioles
27:51
philosophy right now. Like show me something.
27:53
Yeah, not this. Don't show me this.
27:55
Ryan Ripken, my guy. Put him in office.
27:59
What are we doing? Get Prince of Baltimore needs to
28:01
take over. Get your team in order.
28:03
What do we do? Like get get some talent in
28:08
there? Yeah.
28:09
This isn't this isn't cutting it.
28:11
I don't get it. Don't understand?
28:15
Well, at least the Ravens are starting to turn it around.
28:19
At this point I'm I'm honestly getting a little I'm I'm a
28:21
little higher on the pirates if I'm being honest.
28:24
Real. Pirates it's it's just any, any
28:28
excuse to hit that button. Well, it was I was I was setting
28:33
myself up for for what is our next topic.
28:35
And it is this this report report.
28:41
I use that term so loosely. By the way, welcome to three O
28:45
take. By the way, if if you hung out
28:47
with us during the postseason and you're like, wow, these guys
28:50
are pretty fun. They're pretty lively.
28:53
This is the opposite of what you're going to Yeah.
28:56
The the offseason version of US is just extremely negative until
29:01
bombs start dropping. Well, I mean, like, what?
29:05
What are we supposed to do? Just like, pretend that
29:08
everything's all fine and dandy? Pretend like the Orioles
29:11
actually spend money because they don't.
29:14
Pretend like the Orioles part way with their pieces to bring
29:16
in other pieces 'cause they haven't.
29:19
Pretend like the Pirates are going to spend money this
29:21
offseason 'cause they're not. Sorry, JBI.
29:24
Just I wasn't sure about the I mean, you threw some hard air
29:28
quotes on report, so I just. No, I, I put air quotes on it
29:35
because I I there's the I like Jeff Passan, are you can you
29:40
really look at yourself in the mirror after after putting that
29:45
out there and think this is a legitimate this is a legitimate
29:50
report. I could very easily see this
29:54
plane out this offseason where the pirates spend money.
29:57
He. Was doing his hair.
29:58
He had to let his kid tweet it for him.
30:02
Type this up for me. Josh, I'm, I'm going to flip it
30:07
to you. You're, you've obviously been
30:09
been in, in the weeds of this. What?
30:11
What is actually what? What's actually happening here
30:14
with the Pirates? First off, Jeff Passan is the
30:19
last guy who's going to do Ben Sharrington and Bob Nutting a
30:22
favor. So I don't think that this is
30:26
any kind of. That's that's what I don't.
30:29
Care of plant of what I of that type, But I think the only thing
30:36
you could really take away with this is that they're willing to
30:39
offer more than they ever have. The problem is are they willing
30:44
to offer more than any other team is going to offer the the
30:50
offer that was there and you know, take it or leave it if you
30:54
think it's real or not. I I've heard from a couple
30:57
places the offer that was there was still 10 million short of
31:01
what Seattle offered. So are you really?
31:05
Are you really playing? Bros Bros got new buttons.
31:10
Yeah, the buttons. Oh man, sorry I had to.
31:15
No and. No display overall or AAV.
31:19
Overall. Oh, that's not that bad.
31:24
But are you just going to that? Like level where you're like, we
31:26
know he won't sign, but this will look good.
31:29
That's what I said in our that's what.
31:30
All these teams do, that's what. I'm worried about.
31:33
Now granted that. Is more than the pirates three
31:37
years, 39 million. That's the that's the largest
31:40
free agent contract that they've given out.
31:43
So Yvonne Nova. Liriano, Liriano.
31:47
Yvonne. Nova was the last multi year
31:49
deal in 2016 I believe. But here's the thing, the
31:57
Pirates have stumbled themselves into a generational talent in
32:00
Paul Skeens. He's won a rookie of the year
32:02
and a Cy Young already. If he can convince Bob nothing
32:05
to spend money, build a statue, that's.
32:09
You know what I mean? I wish.
32:11
We had. I wish we had.
32:12
Josh on the pod back when those reports came out, or I don't
32:16
even know if it was reports, but it it was just a hot topic with
32:19
Paul Skeens and whether or not he actually wanted to be a
32:22
pirate or not. Josh and I kind of went at it
32:25
because Josh was fully sold on the fact that Paul Skeens just
32:28
bleeds black and yellow, which I think could not be further from
32:32
the truth, but. Those have been clearly.
32:36
Refuted. Those comments have been clearly
32:38
refuted, so yeah, better late than never.
32:41
Clearly he. Didn't lie.
32:42
No, this. No, no, no.
32:44
I'm. Not even talking.
32:45
I'm not even talking about Dan Patrick stuff.
32:47
I'm not. Even he told.
32:47
Patrick verbatim that they weren't true.
32:51
No, I. I'm talking.
32:52
Like last year that when when I don't even remember what sparked
32:56
it, but it the conversation got brought up.
32:58
It's like it does Paul Schemes actually want to be here?
33:00
Oh, it's when they were talking extension.
33:02
Like when when the idea or when the, the, the yeah, when the
33:07
idea of an extension came up. And he was just like, yeah, you
33:11
know, I'm just, I'm just here to win here now.
33:14
And we'll see where things go. And I'm like OK guy, like Smart
33:19
could not be more. More transparent here.
33:23
Smart. I think he wants to win in
33:27
Pittsburgh. I don't think he would ever sign
33:30
an extension there. He also wants free agency and he
33:33
deserves that. They all do.
33:37
But I think that he sees that as a challenge.
33:41
Here you go. I need to take it easy on.
33:43
Josh, I don't want to scare him away after the first set.
33:45
We're halfway through. You're sorry?
33:48
Sorry, so OK, so. Then what do you think?
33:55
Fast forward to. The eve of opening Day.
34:00
What's? What's the pirate?
34:01
Shiny new toy that they're taking the field with opening
34:06
day. Conor Griffin.
34:10
Now. I I.
34:11
Know they're excited about Conor Griffin, but no, I guess what
34:14
I'm saying is they're not. Going to be they're not going to
34:16
sign anybody. OK, so there we go, you.
34:19
Know they, they also they also. Offered four to five years of
34:22
Schwarber. Wonder what that number is?
34:26
Not enough. They're not getting that.
34:29
They're looking for lefty power. Who's left?
34:31
Bellinger. They're not going to go that
34:33
high, I mean. $12.00. In a lifetime supply of hoagies,
34:38
I just don't think it's going to get it done for Schwarber, if
34:41
I'm being honest. That's all they got.
34:44
No, they're. They're not going to be able to
34:49
play ball. They're.
34:50
Going to bring back. IKF, they're not going to do
34:53
that. He's probably the one that opens
34:55
shiny new toy. Yeah.
35:01
That's the source IKF was. Like he wants to be a Yankee.
35:04
I don't know what you want from me.
35:06
He said it to my face. Kyle.
35:11
We'll Kyle. We'll talk when the trade
35:13
happens between the the Pirates and and Boston.
35:17
I can't wait when you get Mitch Keller.
35:20
No, no, we'll talk. About the Brayu or or the
35:23
password? Coming to the Pittsburgh,
35:26
that's. Totally fine take.
35:27
Give us, in fact, give us schemes.
35:29
We'll give you no. No, Keller.
35:31
No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
35:33
Give it. I'm not.
35:33
I don't. I'm not interested in Keller.
35:35
Give us, give us schemes. We'll give you.
35:38
We'll give you a Brayu and Tessie.
35:42
No, you're not. Getting.
35:45
You're giving me. Abreu, you're giving me.
35:46
Anthony, you're giving me. Sedan, you're giving me.
35:49
Are you kidding me? No, I'm not.
35:51
You're getting. You're getting we're keeping
35:53
Wally and we'll give you a Tessie.
35:55
That's as far that's as far as we go as far as this
35:59
conversation. You get a.
36:00
Lobster Roll and Yoshida. I heard they hung up.
36:03
I heard they hung. Up the phone on you.
36:06
I mean, that's a. That's a once in a lifetime
36:09
deal. What else you I mean, what other
36:11
team can offer you a lot a quality lobster role in in
36:14
Masataki Yoshita. Man, what a what a what a
36:19
blockbuster trade that'll be. I can't wait for that day
36:24
speaking. Of blockbuster.
36:25
Let's talk. Let's talk TV.
36:30
I'll be honest with you, I'm still trying to wrap my.
36:32
Head around this announcement that came out today with these
36:35
these TV deals and these rights it was announced that MLB.
36:41
I guess was it officially announced?
36:43
Today or was it just reported that this that this is coming?
36:45
OK, so officially reported today, NBC will be taking over
36:51
Sunday Night Baseball and the first round of the playoffs.
36:54
Netflix will be taking Opening Day, the return of the Field of
36:58
Dreams game as well as the Home Run Derby and then I guess ESPN
37:04
will be taking over MLBTV as well as out of market select in
37:09
market games. Can somebody explain to me what?
37:16
This what this transition to. ESPN is like.
37:21
How does that how, how does MLBTV just carry over to the
37:27
ESPN app? I'm I'm, I'm having a hard time
37:30
making sense of what that's going to look like sense to me
37:32
either. But.
37:33
I mean, the what is the ESPN app has been like 999-1199 something
37:39
like that. That's about to jump to
37:42
whatever. You know, I'd, I think the idea
37:47
I could see maybe not the first year, but eventually the whole,
37:51
hey, you can pay 70 bucks for the year.
37:53
You get your team every out of market game for the year and
37:58
then it what is it, 120 and you get every game.
38:04
I could see ESPN. Getting rid of that model and
38:07
just charging 60 bucks a month to use their platform.
38:13
And then there was a bundle. I think it was like ESPN
38:17
Unlimited, Hulu and I think Disney.
38:20
It's like 30 bucks a month. I'm like, can we?
38:24
That's going to go? Can we?
38:25
Can we stop? Like this?
38:28
It's too much. Like what?
38:31
What's? Out there now Forget baseball.
38:34
What's out there now for sports fans?
38:37
ESPN. Peacock.
38:41
Prime. Netflix.
38:46
What else? What?
38:47
What am I missing? Just if any sports, I mean, if
38:50
there, if there's UFC fans. They got to.
38:53
They're getting it through ESPN. You've got Apple, Apple there's.
38:58
Apple. That's gone too, by the way,
39:01
right? I think we saw that a couple
39:03
months ago. Friday night games are done.
39:07
Yeah, Apple still has. Fridays.
39:09
Yeah, unbelievable. I mean you need.
39:13
Access to TBS. For the post season you need
39:16
access to Fox. You said that NBC is taking.
39:20
Sunday Night baseball, Yeah, Which I think, I I think.
39:23
I actually called that the last time.
39:27
Like months maybe? Even like a year or two ago, we
39:32
were talking about with ESPN or no, maybe this was last year.
39:37
We were talking about ESPN possibly showing themselves to
39:41
the door as it related to baseball coverage.
39:44
And we were spitballing like who, who would be a good play,
39:46
Who would be a good platform to take that slot?
39:49
And I said I'd love to see NBC slide in there.
39:51
I think you're making that up. I'm dead serious.
39:55
I'll pull the. I'll go pull the receipt.
39:58
You do that. Thank you.
39:59
I I mean all all, it's all fine and dandy till next September.
40:05
And football is also. On Sunday night on NBC.
40:10
What is that about? What are we going to do then?
40:12
So apparently the the Sunday. Nights are NBC slash Peacock.
40:17
I bet they moved to Peacock. There it is.
40:20
Yeah, there it is. Football.
40:23
Stays on NBC and baseball gets relegated to Peacock.
40:28
Peacock used to be the Sunday. Morning.
40:31
And it was Roku for the last couple years.
40:33
I believe that's going back to them as well.
40:36
I don't understand. Do we just do?
40:38
Like do we hear the? Conversation that's happening
40:40
around this is this is insanity. All the as sports fans, the
40:44
streaming options have gone too far.
40:50
But we've just, we, we've just blindly accepted it because we
40:54
just want to watch our sports. And these providers know that
40:57
and they're going to keep charging it.
40:59
They're going to make it more difficult to watch these sports.
41:01
They're going to have too many barriers and we're just going
41:04
to. Continue to fork over our.
41:06
Money. You know how like everything?
41:09
Just kind of cycles back where everyone like there's kids
41:12
wearing baggy pants again, you know, like it's early 2000s and
41:18
they're going to like thrift stores and they're like, this is
41:20
a vintage shirt. It's like, no, that just an old
41:23
shirt. Cable needs to come back.
41:27
Bring cable back. I want cable I want.
41:32
I want that hard. Thick cable coming out of the
41:35
wall, Plug it into my TV and that's the only spot it's going
41:38
to go. And I want commercials.
41:41
I want. Yeah, I got there, had to go
41:45
there. That's what I want.
41:50
I want ATV guide I. Want to scroll through ATV
41:53
guide? I want it all what I mean what
41:56
do you want? Like ESP NS not even on YouTube
41:59
TV anymore Like. I don't know what this is.
42:04
What? People ask for this is what I
42:07
want Netflix to start sending DVDs through the mail again.
42:10
That's what I want. It's the people in the replies.
42:14
That that just piss me off where they're just like they're
42:17
responding to these platforms like Netflix will put out a
42:20
tweet or I mean, I didn't say I'm not saying this is
42:22
happening. Just as an example, Netflix puts
42:25
a tweet out, Hey, we're getting opening night in the Field of
42:30
Dreams game. And then you get these people
42:32
instead of instead of bringing some sense to the conversation
42:36
and be like, hey, can we not do this?
42:38
Can we not have another platform now that we're going to have to
42:42
have access to, to pay for, to consume the sport that we want
42:45
to watch? But in instead of doing that,
42:48
they're getting in the replies and be like, OK, well, how does
42:51
this impact my ability to watch this?
42:53
And will you still be providing that?
42:55
It's like stop, Like stop. Can we please stop catering to
43:01
these platforms and, and, and, and like please, please, Mr.
43:06
Netflix, Sir, can you, can you flip this switch or unlock this
43:11
so I can watch that or so I can watch this?
43:13
Just we're just going to keep giving them our money.
43:17
How is it that ESPN isn't good? Enough to keep Sunday Night
43:21
Baseball, but they're good enough to take the rest of our
43:23
games. How's that going to work?
43:29
Well, if you. Go if you go back to.
43:31
February, ESPN opted out. They had an opt out for the last
43:34
three years of their deal, which was around 1.65 billion.
43:39
The the money doesn't make sense here.
43:40
They've essentially added a bunch of stuff and then broke
43:43
even because Manfred and ESPN kind of had a fight.
43:47
They kind of got like high school drama going on and like,
43:51
I'm breaking up with you. No, I'm breaking up with you.
43:54
And then they finally made-up in July, and this is what they
43:57
worked out. But after Manfred tried to
44:00
recoup the money with Netflix and NBC and all that.
44:04
By the way, it does say that NBC will have 2525 Sunday.
44:12
Night games will. Will air mostly on NBC, the rest
44:15
on NBC Sports Network. All of them will be on Peacock,
44:19
so you'll still get NBC Sports Network.
44:22
Also ESP NS back on YouTube TV now.
44:26
That is back I. I can't keep up.
44:29
I can't keep up. I hate this.
44:31
I hate this. I don't have time to.
44:33
This is so stupid. What's?
44:35
And what's that meme? Where it's the guy from Always
44:37
Sunny in Philadelphia and there's just like red lines all
44:40
over the place and he's losing his mind.
44:41
That's what it's like to try and figure out where I can watch
44:45
these damn games. Where do I go?
44:47
How do I do it? How much money does it cost?
44:50
I don't understand. What are they doing?
44:53
And you're still going to get blacked out.
44:55
Don't think that's that's that's not going anywhere.
44:58
That's staying for forever. I hate.
45:02
It I. Hate it, I wasn't going to get
45:04
worked up. You mean that thick hard cable
45:10
back? Relax bro.
45:13
Plug it into the TV. Relax.
45:17
You mean that coax? So it's interesting though, the
45:23
tight. Line my friend.
45:24
As ESPN gets MLBTV. They're also getting so it's all
45:29
the out of market games. They're keeping the price where
45:31
it is. I think it's 150 right now.
45:33
You there are packages for a single team, but the six teams
45:37
that actually moved to MLBTV because they lost their rights.
45:43
Are the guardians. Padres, Twins, Diamondbacks,
45:45
Rockies and Mariners. Those teams will now have ESPN
45:49
broadcasting their all their home games.
45:52
Run me through that list one more time.
45:53
I did see it but I can't remember who.
45:55
Guardians. Padres.
45:57
Twins, Diamondbacks, Rockies and Mariners.
46:03
This is this is all root. Sports, isn't it?
46:07
Some of. That is, yeah, Root Sports.
46:09
Yeah. And I think.
46:10
Seattle, actually. Bought Root Sports and now
46:13
they're doing away with that as well and I think that's how they
46:15
got well, the D backs have like their own.
46:17
My guy Drew Goodman, so that can.
46:19
Be about for the Rockies. They've been calling games
46:22
forever. Yeah, don't the D backs have
46:26
like their own thing? They were.
46:30
They were available to. Purchase it was an extra charge
46:33
on MOBTV Yeah, they've. Turned it over to them, yeah.
46:38
Oh, so OK. I see that which I.
46:40
Didn't. I don't think we did because.
46:42
I didn't get to watch any Diamondbacks games this year,
46:45
but yeah, dude, I can't. I can't keep it straight.
46:49
It's. It's insane but from what it
46:54
sounds. Like from what it sounds like we
47:02
can get ESPN then Peacock. And that gets us, that gets us
47:09
where we need. To be I, I mean I, I guess like.
47:13
If if you want to watch opening night, you got to have Netflix.
47:16
If you want to watch the Home Run Derby, you got to have
47:18
Netflix. If you want to watch the Field
47:19
of Dreams game, you got to have Netflix.
47:21
If you want to watch the All Star game, you got to have Fox.
47:23
You want to watch the World Baseball class, you got to have
47:25
Fox. If you want to watch LDSLCS
47:27
World Series, you got to have Fox.
47:29
If you want to watch LDS or the LCS, you got to have TBS.
47:32
And if you want to watch on Fridays, you got to have Apple.
47:34
It's too much. So does NBC take the TBS?
47:38
Slot. If that's what that means if.
47:42
NB If. Did I?
47:43
What did I just say? NBSNNBC take the.
47:48
The what slot season do they take the the team they?
47:51
Take the. Spot, they've got the wild card
47:53
round. They've got the wild card round.
47:55
Hope they don't hire Ron Darling.
47:57
No to suspect, no well, some. Well, not me, I I don't the
48:02
last. The last thing I.
48:04
Remember seeing live on Netflix that tanked their servers.
48:11
Crash. Was that Mike?
48:12
Tyson, Jake Paul fight. Have they done something live
48:18
since? Because.
48:19
Like, like, I'm curious to see how that goes.
48:21
I don't know what viewership is going to be with what that was
48:25
compared to a Home Run Derby. But I don't know.
48:27
We're probably going to be there anyway, aren't we?
48:30
Oh, home run. Derby, I was thinking world.
48:32
Baseball Classic? What's that going to be on?
48:40
That's all I care about. World baseball class tube TV.
48:43
That's going to be ESPN. You're going to have, if you
48:45
have MLBTV, which is going to be on ESPN, you will have access to
48:49
MLB Network. But I think that's a big
48:51
question for me. Will I Will they continue to
48:54
provide MLB Network through their service of MLBTV?
48:59
I, I think yes. I I think it's.
49:01
Just going to be shows, by the way, on ESPN.
49:04
MLB. Network has three shows.
49:06
Like keep central, keep central. That's.
49:09
Yeah, that's GOAT. Add to the mix a little bit.
49:12
That's goaded. Six hours of the.
49:16
MLB now it's too. Much, man, it's too.
49:20
Much I hate it, but but what? Else you got for me.
49:24
Continue. To spend our money, we got some
49:27
DMS. Murray wants to know questions
49:32
or? Comments.
49:33
Questions, OK. Bringing.
49:36
DMS back. It's been it's.
49:37
Been admittedly far too long since since I've fielded some
49:42
DM. So we're going to make this a
49:44
regular thing again. So prepare, keep an eye out each
49:47
week for the, the, the story on IG.
49:50
That's probably where I'll get get these, these submissions
49:54
from. So be like, like I said, keep an
49:57
eye out there and we'll make this a regular thing again like
50:01
we used to have it. Lead us off here.
50:04
Murray, friend of the pod, Murray says.
50:06
When can we bring back the three O fake?
50:09
I think we were actually we were talking about this right before
50:11
we hopped on. Actually, I got an idea.
50:13
Don't say anything. Next question, sucking Murray.
50:17
I got an idea. It just came to mind too.
50:19
I didn't even know he was going to ask that.
50:21
I can't say any. You don't want me to say
50:22
anything? No.
50:25
Murray, you'll find out eventually.
50:27
I'll text. You I'll let you know, but I
50:30
think we should bring it back in a different way and that's
50:33
that's my idea. We need to talk about it off
50:35
here. OK, I.
50:37
Like that all right. Man, I really.
50:42
Really jammed myself. Up with names this episode
50:45
already. Stay Yeppin.
50:51
OK, I looked up the. Phonetics.
50:53
I think it's stay. Yeppin, there's AJ in there.
50:55
J is silent, asks which free which free agent are you most
51:01
excited for? No.
51:06
I feel like my my head. Immediately went to Boba Shet
51:10
and I had to fight. I had to fight the voice in the
51:14
back of my head saying he's just going to end up back in Toronto.
51:18
And I said no, I, I, I want to see, I want to see Boba Shet hit
51:23
the market and find, find a new home.
51:27
No disrespect to Toronto. I think I think he, he had a, a
51:30
good run there. But I.
51:33
This is going to be a this. Is.
51:34
I think this is going to be a face I'd like to see in a new
51:37
place. Also, I'm just as I'm a sucker
51:43
for. Shortstops.
51:43
I mean the the that's no secret. I don't think he's going to be a
51:46
shortstop moving. Forward kind of sounds like he's
51:48
not going to be no, but that's that's another reason I'm
51:51
excited. About it because of the
51:52
versatility bring to the table, but I'm just going off of the
51:55
Beau Bichette we've known as a shortstop.
52:02
I don't know, I mean some of these feel like cop out answers
52:05
I guess. I'm I'm excited for.
52:11
Schwarber, I guess just because of the age and like the the
52:16
Super 1 dimensional and I'm excited to see what kind of
52:21
contract that brings and what kind of AAV it brings, you know,
52:28
still putting up MVP type numbers like it makes.
52:32
Me wonder like I. I just, I love that that's the
52:35
free agency we grew up with, right?
52:37
Like it was you're not hitting free agency until you know,
52:40
323334 and then you see like a lot of these guys getting paid
52:44
and then the contract doesn't look great towards the end of
52:47
it. So like, I feel like this is one
52:50
of the first names that comes to mind.
52:53
I know we saw like a an Aaron Judge a couple years ago.
52:56
That was, you know, on the later end, but it.
53:01
This is like his next. Contract, you know, I'm saying
53:03
like he's had so much established already and so much
53:07
that he's done that. Like I'm kind of excited to see
53:11
if he does leave. I've heard like a lot of chatter
53:14
about like the the Braves, which I think would be really
53:17
interesting. It'd be really strange to see
53:21
considering how much he's tormented them in a in a Philly
53:24
uniform. But he hit he did pretty well
53:27
during the during the Home Run Derby or the the Home Run Derby
53:35
of the All Star game, right? That's what it was.
53:36
Yeah. Yeah, man, I, I, I would say
53:42
Schwarber just because of the different element to it.
53:45
Everyone else kind of checks that normal box that we're used
53:48
to, right? Like late 20s, they're hitting
53:50
their peak years. They're just going to get a fat
53:53
contract. But like Schwarber brings a lot
53:56
of impact immediately and you don't, it doesn't seem like
54:01
there's going to be a ton of guilt with like the length of
54:04
the contract. So I'm curious to see who does
54:08
it, who's willing to eat. You know we're talking 30 to. 35
54:13
mill a year, probably for. Three or four years.
54:18
And just hoping that he hits 100 and. 20 to 150.
54:22
Home runs. During that span, I.
54:26
Like it, Like it. Hello.
54:31
Austin asks. And this is.
54:34
A. This is just a reminder.
54:36
For those if you're if you're new to listening to us these DMS
54:40
that we're we're planning to bring back and make a regular
54:42
thing again, they can be baseball, especially during the
54:46
offseason. They can be baseball related,
54:48
sure. Of course they can.
54:50
Also I already. Like the preface of this, they
54:52
can also just be. Completely off the grid and, and
54:56
this is what we're working with here?
54:57
Austin asks. When a deaf person thinks, whose
55:02
voice do they hear come? On Austin, I can't even begin
55:13
to. Think about answering this
55:16
question because I don't like. I genuinely don't know.
55:19
I don't know, but I've heard that like.
55:21
There's some people that don't have an internal dialogue.
55:25
I've heard there's some people out there that don't have like I
55:29
have. Thoughts all the time my.
55:30
Brain is just always, always thinking of the most ridiculous
55:35
things and I'm glad I have somewhat of a filter to save me.
55:39
But some people don't have that. Some people just go around their
55:43
day just like no thoughts, just free balling pretty.
55:50
Wild Nate's internal. Voice is Michael.
55:53
Kay, I like that. Nate's been known.
55:58
To drop a I'm a. Red Sox fan OK, that's
56:03
ridiculous. Now I got to figure out how to
56:05
create some buttons. Good luck.
56:08
Good luck I. I hear we got some trivia.
56:16
Is this how we're going to wrap up the offseason pods moving
56:18
forward? With a little bit of trivia, we
56:21
can a. Little trivia to take.
56:23
The edge off. Yeah.
56:26
Yeah. You ready to roll?
56:28
You see those? Those.
56:30
Tik Toks are so good. Well they go to Chili's and they
56:33
have like a mozzarella stick. They're like just a little
56:35
something to take the edge off, like ashing a cigar.
56:39
I've seen the ones where they do it with the Christmas.
56:41
Trees like the Little Debbie things, and it's like when you
56:43
don't smoke, what you need to take, you need to take a break.
56:48
Christmas tree cakes. Well, we got the.
56:50
I think we talked about doing. A timer on this sucker, so you
56:52
got the timer ready at least you want me to do the timer.
56:55
I think we'll make the timer up here.
56:57
We'll. Make the timer up.
56:58
I'll add the timer. You can watch.
56:59
You can watch the. Clock.
57:01
Yeah, we'll watch the clock. We got a little Josh.
57:03
Naylor trivia here. Kind of.
57:04
Oh boy. It's it's based around.
57:07
This OK? So this is where we're getting
57:08
it. And I got a couple notes on on
57:10
Naylor as well for you, Nate. And then and then while you guys
57:13
think I'll, I'll give you those. So let's go with the question
57:16
first. What's that?
57:18
Sounds like you're going to correct me on some.
57:20
Stuff. So it's what?
57:22
You wanted me to do? Yeah, unfortunately.
57:25
Josh Naylor. Was the. 3rd 1st baseman to have
57:29
at least 25 double S, 20 home runs and 30 steals in a season.
57:37
Just the third one minimum games at first base be in 120 games.
57:42
So they're playing first base, right?
57:46
He had 20. 920 and 30. And 25 S there are two other one
57:51
of them did it twice. There are two other guys and and
57:54
I'll give you a hint right out of the gate, they've all been
57:56
since the year 1997. OK, so there are two other first
58:01
baseman 25 double S20 homers that that's the minimum.
58:06
By the way, they had more than Naylor 25 double S, 20 homers,
58:11
30 steals in a season. Think about that, I'll give.
58:15
You a couple. Josh Naylor notes, while we're
58:17
at it, you mentioned his defense outs above average on Baseball
58:22
Reference actually have him above average defensively
58:27
defensive runs saved. Over the whole.
58:29
Course of it is low, however -6 defensive runs saved with
58:34
Arizona at first base last year, plus 5 defensive runs saved
58:39
while he was with Seattle. So the Mariners are thinking
58:43
about a a defensive liability. They saw a plus defender at
58:48
first base. Maybe that's where they were
58:51
fooled. Interesting.
58:54
Do we have any guesses? Oh, wait, I will say one more
58:56
thing. I will say one more thing there
58:58
before you throw it out. Cal Raleigh had comments before
59:01
Naylor was signed with them about how he was sort of the MVP
59:05
of the clubhouse. So I think there's something
59:07
there too, to say that they loved Naylor in the clubhouse,
59:12
to say if Cal Raleigh's speaking up, maybe that's the guy you go
59:16
after rather than going after like a Pete Alonso.
59:18
See, that's what I'm saying is I feel.
59:20
Like, I feel like in the same way, I mean, I, I love our sweet
59:24
young Prince Bryce, but like a lot of people for the majority
59:28
of the early parts of his career or just like, this guy's a punk.
59:31
But anybody with eyes can look at how Bryce has evolved as a
59:35
player, as a leader and a clubhouse guy, be like he's not
59:39
the same kid he was when he got the league and a guy that Nate,
59:42
you and I have had thoughts and comments on in years past.
59:46
Like we alluded to Josh Naylor, It's it might be a similar thing
59:50
where like he's you know, he's becoming like he he's the vet
59:53
now. He's he's not some young buck
59:56
trying to stir up controversy in the Bronx or anything.
1:00:00
He's he's just a guy that's down for the cause.
1:00:03
Just want to play some ball. Maybe that's what they saw.
1:00:05
And and clearly Cal thinks the same thing.
1:00:09
SoCal. Raleigh, that is.
1:00:11
Smart I. Don't know what do you got in
1:00:14
there I'm. Thinking since. 97 I'm.
1:00:21
I'm trying to I'm. Trying to decide if how much
1:00:25
now, because he was with the, I was going to say Cody Bellinger
1:00:29
because I was trying to remember how much time he was spending in
1:00:32
the outfield versus first base. And I, I wasn't sure, but then
1:00:36
Rizzo kind of threw me off. That does the hint of 97 mean.
1:00:40
That the first example is from 97.
1:00:42
Is that 100%? Yeah, OK.
1:00:46
All right, but it's not hard I. I I say that because I'm looking
1:00:50
at the name. So I don't know, 7 Yeah.
1:00:59
I wonder Bellinger. Was was close to some of those
1:01:02
numbers, but he never had all three of those numbers in a
1:01:07
season. He's never stole 30 bags.
1:01:14
One of them is pretty recent, still an.
1:01:16
Active player free agent this year, The other one.
1:01:20
Is from the 90s. And is in the Hall of Fame just
1:01:23
to speed things up. Pretty notorious for being that
1:01:28
kind of a guy too. It's not Jim Tomey.
1:01:35
Not even close to. Being notorious for stealing
1:01:37
bags. That's what I'm saying.
1:01:38
That's what I said. It's not Jim.
1:01:39
Tomey, he's ruling out. I was just trying to go back.
1:01:42
To that. Era.
1:01:44
Yeah, that was the first. Guy that came to.
1:01:47
Came to mind. This player only stole 30.
1:01:53
Bags twice. He did all three of those things
1:01:55
both of those times. 449 home runs, 488 double S, 202 steals.
1:02:04
97. Rookie of the.
1:02:08
Year MVP. Miguel.
1:02:11
Cabrera, I believe 30 bags. For Maggie, yeah, it's too.
1:02:16
It's too early. And I believe.
1:02:19
It wasn't a Rocky, was it? No, but he spent.
1:02:23
His whole career with one team and it almost was your team I.
1:02:30
Don't know what that means. You don't know what that means.
1:02:33
To my team, let me let. Me.
1:02:35
Double check that I thought. Yeah, that's right.
1:02:37
OK. Or my team?
1:02:38
Or Nate's team. Your team.
1:02:39
Kyle's team. The other one just.
1:02:42
Played with Nate's team, the. The more recent 10.
1:02:46
That's a great. Hint.
1:02:47
Yeah, it's a huge hint. Really narrows the.
1:02:50
Feeling out there. Yeah, that's it, man.
1:02:52
You got one. Hey.
1:02:53
Well done, great job. Put the.
1:02:54
Claps in the team. Look at.
1:02:55
You. Yeah.
1:02:56
Hey, hey, let's. Let's clap it up.
1:02:58
All right, let's get there. Give me.
1:03:00
A second, Here we go. Yeah, yeah.
1:03:04
All right. OK.
1:03:06
So the hall. Of Famer who did it twice.
1:03:08
Was traded in August of 1990 from the Red Sox to the team
1:03:12
that he played his entire career with.
1:03:14
What wasn't for he was traded for.
1:03:15
Larry Anderson. Who I've never heard of, no.
1:03:21
Respect. No disrespect.
1:03:24
He's. Probably a great guy.
1:03:27
Oh, you said. You said he almost played for.
1:03:29
Red Sox He was drafted by the Red Sox and traded.
1:03:31
Before he made his debut. Larry Anderson though, I just
1:03:35
said I'd never heard of him. Dude played 17 years in the
1:03:37
show. Way to go man 13. .9 career 40
1:03:41
and. 39 record with a 315 ERA. Larry Anderson great job.
1:03:46
It's not the same era, obviously, but.
1:03:48
First baseman almost played for the Red Sox.
1:03:51
Anthony Rizzo. Yeah, right.
1:03:55
Yeah, so. Who was the first one?
1:03:57
He's a. Hall of Famer guys, JB Note
1:04:01
noted. Non Hall of Famer Anthony Rizzo.
1:04:03
Yeah. Wait, JB.
1:04:08
That's his. Initials.
1:04:09
Oh my gosh. Keeping this thing this is
1:04:11
terrible. His whole entire.
1:04:13
Career was played with the Houston.
1:04:14
Astros, this is. Jeff Bagwell, What are we doing?
1:04:20
Never would have. Never.
1:04:21
Would have guessed he swiped 30 bags.
1:04:23
Really. He did it twice, 30 and 30.
1:04:25
One in 9799, I'm not. Had tree.
1:04:29
Trunks for legs. Yeah, I'm not not taking
1:04:31
anything away from him. But it's.
1:04:35
We are setting the. We're setting the threshold at.
1:04:37
30 and he did it 30 and 31, so it's not like he's so to be.
1:04:42
Fair to be fair. That is the 30.
1:04:44
That's the. Threshold.
1:04:44
That's what Naylor had, too. But Naylor had 29 double S and
1:04:48
20 homers. These guys.
1:04:49
Goldschmidt had 33 double S, 24 homers and 32 steals.
1:04:54
Bagwell had 35 double S42 homers and 30 steals and 40 double S,
1:04:59
43 homers and 31 steals. 31 bags if you will.
1:05:04
If you will, if you will, and call them Bagwell for nothing.
1:05:11
Preach. Preach.
1:05:13
All right, that's a good that's a good opening installment of
1:05:16
trivia. See, Nate was worried just to
1:05:18
give you folks a little peek behind the curtain.
1:05:20
Nate was worried that there was just going to be too much dead
1:05:23
time as we're sitting there thinking.
1:05:24
But shout out to our guy Josh in the corner.
1:05:27
He led us to the water. I mean, we had.
1:05:29
We needed all the help we could get.
1:05:31
Well, no, I wasn't even going to say that.
1:05:33
I was just going to say giving us giving us some some nice
1:05:36
context to to to fill the void. So I, I, I like, I like closing
1:05:42
things out with a little bit of trivia.
1:05:44
Me too. Me too.
1:05:45
I'm down. For it, hopefully the folks.
1:05:46
Do as well. We'll keep it moving a little
1:05:48
faster than we do in the. Live stream, so I'll lead you to
1:05:51
water if we have to. Yeah, that's yeah.
1:05:53
It doesn't I feel dirty. I don't feel that clean.
1:05:56
Yeah, I don't I, I didn't I. Wasn't thrilled with my
1:05:59
performance there personally. I mean you got Goldschmidt.
1:06:02
Nate got Goldschmidt I. I provided no value to this, but
1:06:06
you know, that's that's that's the business we call show.
1:06:11
Let's let yeah, let's keep this thing.
1:06:13
Let's keep this rolling and we'll we'll get better at it.
1:06:18
People see people like on these videos that Nate the like the
1:06:22
games I've been posting that we did recently.
1:06:26
People like how did you miss this?
1:06:27
How did you miss that? And I'm like, your brain just
1:06:30
shuts down when, when you're on the spot like this.
1:06:33
So like it's easy if you're just a consumer, you'd be like, oh,
1:06:37
it's, it's XY or Z. But you, the brain, the brain,
1:06:40
you just, you black out so. We'll, we'll get better.
1:06:45
We'll get better at this, but. Good stuff.
1:06:49
That's all I really had. Clapping up for JB in the
1:06:54
corner. First episode, Episode 583.
1:07:00
What a debut, what a. Debut.
1:07:03
What a debut, what a debut appreciate you Josh looking
1:07:11
forward to to doing this more often.
1:07:14
This will be this will be good. I I have no doubts that the
1:07:17
people will love this addition to the to the pod.
1:07:23
You guys got anything else? Oh, I got for me.
1:07:30
Nothing. Oh, we may have to figure.
1:07:32
Out I won't put. You on the spot now, Josh?
1:07:33
We may have to we may have to get you squared away with a a
1:07:37
sign off. Yeah, my show it's let's go
1:07:40
Bucks. I don't.
1:07:40
Think we want that here? Oh.
1:07:44
Gosh, I got to figure out some buttons.
1:07:56
I love it. All right, yeah, that's all I
1:07:59
got. 2 pirates buttons is insane.
1:08:02
Yeah, they dominate. The first page of the
1:08:05
soundboard. I tell you what, I tell you
1:08:09
what. Oh, time to go to bed.
1:08:13
Don't go chasing. Curveballs, we love you all, and
1:08:15
as always, looking. Forward to talking more baseball
1:08:17
with you guys soon. Until next time, go pirate.