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NBA Playoffs, Unlucky Klay, Laker Luka, Legacy Decisions & AD Drama #119 · The Grounded Show

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  Speaker 1: Bro. Something we haven't really got like a big chance
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  Speaker 1: to get into that I've been wanting to talk about
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  Speaker 1: is just an NBA update overall, but specifically the Luca
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  Speaker 1: Lakers MAVs thing. Obviously, at this point, all the talk
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  Speaker 1: has already been talked about it. I want to look
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: at it like from a kind of different way, brou
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  Speaker 1: One of the big things I thought about shout out
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  Speaker 1: to Ronnie Man. He sent a Texas More thing just
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  Speaker 1: basically talking about how the situation has turned in Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: Like if you're a fan just thinking about like, dang,
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  Speaker 1: you were just in the finals. Now you don't have Luca, period,
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  Speaker 1: Ad is out, Kyrie is out, and you're just like, dang,
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  Speaker 1: we were just in the finals, right and Thompson, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: And that's where I was going with it.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: To me, the biggest thing that nobody's talking about right
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  Speaker 1: now is Claye to Thomson.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine you're Klay Thompson last summer or whatever time it was, offseason,
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: free agency whatever, Buddy says. You know what, the Warriors
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  Speaker 1: only want to give me two years and not three years.
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  Speaker 1: Because of that, Nah, Bro, I got more in the tank. Bro.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm going to Dallas, Man. Luca's over there, Kyrie.
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  Speaker 1: They were just in the finals, Like, nah, Bro, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to I'm about I'm about to come back.
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  Speaker 3: He thought it was an attribute. He was like, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna be the I'm gonna be the missing piece. We're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be the one that doesn't get swept in the finals.
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  Speaker 3: We do this, we do that like I'm leaving the
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  Speaker 3: team I won championships with. And it's like now he's
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  Speaker 3: over there, Like.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, Now he is the only one left out of
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  Speaker 1: the quote unquote Big three or main p however you
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about it, he's the only one left.
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  Speaker 2: They got under games left too.
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  Speaker 1: Bro. It's looking rough, Bron. And it's just, first of all, Dog,
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  Speaker 1: it had to be some personal with Luca. Dog, there's
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  Speaker 1: no you can't tell me there was any other reason
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  Speaker 1: that's that's basketball related that you could have said is
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  Speaker 1: the reason. It had to be something he rubbed somebody
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  Speaker 1: the wrong way and they just couldn't get over it.
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  Speaker 1: So but whatever, But Dog, the way Klay Thompson has
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  Speaker 1: just kind of left out to dry. And then now
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  Speaker 1: the Warriors got Jimmy Butler, which has got to be like, damn, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: now they got like they replaced me like with like
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  Speaker 1: just a slightly younger, improved version because they're kind of
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  Speaker 1: similar type character, similar type players, aside from the fact
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  Speaker 1: that Klay Thompson obviously was a much better shooter for sure,
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  Speaker 1: but they were like, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, Butler hustles.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, their defense guys. You know what I mean there
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  Speaker 1: stretch you know, two threes that could cover anybody that
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  Speaker 1: can help. Like I said, the only difference really is
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy's more streaky, but similar style player. And it's just
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  Speaker 1: kind of crazy, like, Bro, it gotta be wild like
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he made the wrong decision, because Bro,
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  Speaker 1: stuff just happens that you can't control. But it's just
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  Speaker 1: so crazy to think, like you making these decisions like
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  Speaker 1: of how your life's gonna go, and you're thinking, all right,
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  Speaker 1: let me let me whatever. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: You're thinking you're running through or you make the decision
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  Speaker 1: like never in his mind did he think, Bro, they
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  Speaker 1: might trade Luca, you know what I'm saying, Like.
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  Speaker 2: Or we might lose Kyrie. Crazy business decisions, right yep.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like like you said, Bro, when you got
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  Speaker 1: to make business decisions, like you can only control where
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: you can control. You can only control what you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Like all the other reasons for you doing these things
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  Speaker 1: gotta be more aligned with you than what anybody else
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  Speaker 1: is saying. That's why, like I respect somebody like Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Durant where it's like people want me to just do
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  Speaker 1: everything just to win a team. All all I need
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  Speaker 1: to be thinking about is, oh, how do I win
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  Speaker 1: a title? And I should let all my moves in
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  Speaker 1: my whole life dictated by if I could win the title.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, Bro, he did win titles. He is
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  Speaker 1: one of the best scores of all time. Bro, Like
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  Speaker 1: he's maybe he's And it's crazy to me too, bro,
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  Speaker 1: because like they be talking about people like they don't
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  Speaker 1: got they don't got killer instinct, they.
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  Speaker 2: Don't got they don't got that.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, Bro, you're telling me this dude doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: a killer instinct just because he's not telling you, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I want to be the best player of all time
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  Speaker 1: and this is all I care about. And out out
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  Speaker 1: like bro, I'm a Jordan guy, but dog Jordan was
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  Speaker 1: smoking cigars, gambling out, having a good time. Jordan was
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  Speaker 1: not thinking about basketball all the time. He was that
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  Speaker 1: good at it, and he did you know, he would
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  Speaker 1: be out, but then he would also be the first
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  Speaker 1: one to the gym, you know what I'm saying. So
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  Speaker 1: it's like, at the end of the day, Bro, things
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  Speaker 1: just shaped out for him in a way that is like, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: like that for things to go that way, he he
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  Speaker 1: he just happened to make the right decisions at the
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  Speaker 1: right times and it worked out for him. Who knows,
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  Speaker 1: Klay Thompson might have made a different decision, you know,
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  Speaker 1: who knows Lebron might have made a different decision.
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  Speaker 3: Like you never know, Bro, Like nah, imagine, imagine Jordan
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  Speaker 3: came into that sixth year, the sixth the six ring year,
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  Speaker 3: and Scotty gets injured, Dennis Rodman gets traded like he
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  Speaker 3: never expected and it didn't happen exactly, but he never
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  Speaker 3: expected that it happen, and because it didn't, he was
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  Speaker 3: able to do what he does now in today's NBA.
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  Speaker 3: You make those business decisions, same thing. Hey, we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: be good, we got this whole squad, everything's good. But
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  Speaker 3: then shit happens and it's like, Bron, all right, now,
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  Speaker 3: now I'm assed out, Like now, I can't do anything.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of them things too. With the NBA that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people I feel like don't like is
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  Speaker 1: like all the player empowerment and everything. But it's like, bro,
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  Speaker 1: like these are still just guys living their life like
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  Speaker 1: this is their job. Like you want to say, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: you're lucky, you're doing this job. Lucky. I don't know, bro, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: my son plays basketball like in leagues and stuff, and
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  Speaker 1: he's barely playing like like you know, a couple of
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  Speaker 1: leagues a year and it's tough, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: Like just taking them to the practices, taking them to
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  Speaker 1: the games, like doing all that.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: These people are doing tournaments and stuff like that all
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  Speaker 1: week long since their kids, bro, like getting into the NBA, Like, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: this is not this is not a situation where you
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  Speaker 1: should just be Hey, just be lucky, Just be lucky
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  Speaker 1: and happy that you're here and just take whatever it's
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  Speaker 1: given to you all Like Bro, Like I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: move just because somebody on Sports Center wants me to
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  Speaker 1: win a title, Like come on, bro, like what it's
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  Speaker 1: I know? Like cause we do it too, bro, we
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  Speaker 1: do a podcast or like sometimes you just get so
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  Speaker 1: you know macro on everything that you just talk about
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  Speaker 1: stuff in broad strokes and you're not concerned considering the
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  Speaker 1: details of stuff. But it's like, dog, these people talking
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  Speaker 1: on Sports Center and Fox Sports, all these sports shows.
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  Speaker 1: They're talking like these people like these NBA players, these
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  Speaker 1: NFL players, these MLB players, Like all they should be
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  Speaker 1: caring about is sports twenty four to seven. Don't care
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  Speaker 1: about this, don't care about that, don't care about where
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  Speaker 1: you live, don't care about how much you gotta train,
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  Speaker 1: don't care about how long it takes to come back
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  Speaker 1: from an injury, whatever's going on in your regular life.
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  Speaker 1: Like I know, some stuff was happening with Andrew Wiggins
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. He was having some personal issues,
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  Speaker 1: like family stuff, like real serious stuff, bro. And people
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  Speaker 1: was like, come on, bro, like you gotta bounce back
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  Speaker 1: by now. D It's like, bro, like he's going through
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  Speaker 1: some real life stuff. You want this man to just
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  Speaker 1: come on a basketball court and start dribbling the ball
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  Speaker 1: and forget about like all the crazy stuff that's going
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  Speaker 1: on in his life. Bro, Like, come on, dog, Like
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  Speaker 1: it don't work like that. And some people working is
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  Speaker 1: their coping mechanism, but other people it's not You're lucky
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  Speaker 1: that for you. When you get in a jam, you
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  Speaker 1: just keep working. Some people they can't bear to go
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  Speaker 1: to work because they just can't bear to see other
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  Speaker 1: people when they're feeling a certain way. Like you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like people are just different. And at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, Bro, you're gonna support what
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  Speaker 1: you want to support, and I support where you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to support. Like that's like a funny thing to me,
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  Speaker 1: where like people be complaining about certain personalities. Bro, joke
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  Speaker 1: it joke ito, there we go.
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  Speaker 3: He says it like basketball isn't everything, and he's a
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  Speaker 3: two time MVP in the road, Like he's just like,
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  Speaker 3: but basketball my main concern.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I barely want to do this, ye.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like it's his job, bro. He even said
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  Speaker 1: in an interview when people was thinking he was crazy, Like
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  Speaker 1: He's like, bro, this is my job. I'm sure a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people don't like their job. And it's like, bro,
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  Speaker 1: the same with me. Like I designed for a living.
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  Speaker 1: I like designing, but I wouldn't just be designing all
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  Speaker 1: day every day whatever anybody. Oh, I love designing, So
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  Speaker 1: I just want to design my life away, like, nah, bro,
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  Speaker 1: it don't work like that.
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  Speaker 3: You got different shit you want to do in life. No,
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  Speaker 3: and that that's in and that's why there are players
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  Speaker 3: who make business decisions off of what's important to them
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  Speaker 3: and like they always say, it ends up in the
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  Speaker 3: press coffee. He's like, bro, all that cares about my
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  Speaker 3: family making sure they're good, and it's gonna take care
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  Speaker 3: of them. If I make a move that's not gonna
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  Speaker 3: win me championships and I get in a situation where
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  Speaker 3: we're on losing team, it's what it is. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: still taking care of my family, still take care of
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  Speaker 3: my priorities, making sure everything's everybody's good, and.
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  Speaker 1: That that that take part of a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of business decisions and professional athletes that are people don't
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  Speaker 3: take account for and it sucks because they put them
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  Speaker 3: in a bad light. And I won't make the same
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  Speaker 3: decisions myself.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: So let's wrap it up with this question, what do
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  Speaker 1: you give the Lakers chance wise in the playoffs and
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  Speaker 1: reaching the finals?
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  Speaker 3: Possibly Lakas got a squad, man, Lakers got a squad.
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  Speaker 3: They finally have non egotistical role players in there who
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  Speaker 3: all listen to Lebron, which is one of the main
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  Speaker 3: things like if you got Lebron, we were talking about
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  Speaker 3: fifty cent and g Uni. If you got Lebron and
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  Speaker 3: your squad, you and fifty cents group play your role
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  Speaker 3: facts and he's gonna he's gonna make sure you sucee.
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing about Lebron and people don't understand. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he tries to run the show, calls the shots, but
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  Speaker 3: he's doing it in everybody's best interest to make everybody succeed.
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  Speaker 1: And going off of what you're saying, Bro, Luca came
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  Speaker 1: and he knows at this stage Luca's better than him,
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  Speaker 1: oh easily, not not play by play, but overall, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's just better than He's a playmaker. He's a playmaker.
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  Speaker 1: He's younger, he's he's got the IQ, he's got he's
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  Speaker 1: got the game. So what is Lebron doing. He's letting
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  Speaker 1: Luca kind of set up in the beginning of the
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  Speaker 1: game and he's kind of just getting in where he
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  Speaker 1: fits in. Yep, Bro, that's part of being fifty cent. Bro.
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  Speaker 1: You recognizing, Hey, is there a guy here that I
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  Speaker 1: should do that with or is there not? Like should
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  Speaker 1: I step up or should I step down? And making
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  Speaker 1: the right just at the right time, like and I
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: feel like that's one of the reasons why the team
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  Speaker 1: is playing so well, even though I feel like they're
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  Speaker 1: still too small as a team, like that was their
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  Speaker 1: issue originally and it's going to continue to be their issue.
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  Speaker 1: But then again, they don't really have anybody slowing them
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  Speaker 1: down right now, so they can run a kind of
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  Speaker 1: like warrior style offense where they're a little smaller, they're
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  Speaker 1: getting up and down there, and who knows, Bro against
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: the against the Nuggets, that might work, especially when you
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: consider that Michael Porter Junior ain't the same anymore, Aaron
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: Gordon ain't the same anymore. They're both a little older
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  Speaker 1: and haven't really been playing like how they was when
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: they was winning, you know, when they won that title.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: You think about Minnesota, there's still some question marks there.
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  Speaker 1: They got Randall now as opposed to Karl Anthony Towns.
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  Speaker 1: He's a little more collect and but they do have
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: nas reed and right, yeah, they do. It's is a
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  Speaker 1: little tough size wise, you know what I mean, But
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  Speaker 1: there's definitely an opening there for the Lakers to do
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  Speaker 1: something and like Bro, like we've seen Kyrie went down,
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  Speaker 1: you know, We're not hoping for something like that, but
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  Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff that happens. Bro.
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  Speaker 3: If Lebron gets Brownie James Junior or ring in his
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  Speaker 3: first year, I don't ever want to hear Michael Jordan's
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  Speaker 3: name again.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine imagine Bronni getting garbage time minutes in the finals. Bro,
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: you know how sick people would be.
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  Speaker 2: Bro, I don't ever want to hear anything again. If
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  Speaker 2: these dudes getting a championship this year.
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  Speaker 1: Yo, that would be insane.
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  Speaker 3: The Knicks are forty and twenty. They're playing the best
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: basketball I've seen the Knicks play in a long time.
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  Speaker 3: But I would not be mad if they lost to
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  Speaker 3: the Lakers in the finals. I don't care, just to
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: see some kind of history like that go down. It's
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  Speaker 3: just crazy to me to see to be part of that,
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  Speaker 3: to see that visually with my own eyes, to know
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  Speaker 3: about that, to witness it, that would be insane. To
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: bring bring your son in the league, have him in
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  Speaker 3: G league, get him in garbage time, and then win
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  Speaker 3: him a ring.
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  Speaker 1: He would have to retire at that point. I would
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: don't even try to play with Bryce.
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  Speaker 2: Get out of here, just bro.
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  Speaker 1: Get that at that point it's like I.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: Said, good luck Bryce, You're on your own bids. Yo.
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  Speaker 1: The last thing that I wanted to bring up that
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: you mentioned before, that you wanted to bring up Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Davis saying that he didn't he supposedly Lebron didn't know
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: he called Lebron first. I was running made for like
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  Speaker 1: six years, and just like you were talking about just
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: the business side of the NBA and how kind of
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  Speaker 1: that gets in the way of like what's going on
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  Speaker 1: and you don't know who to believe you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's.
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  Speaker 2: It's rough man.
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  Speaker 3: And like if I was Anthony Davis and I found
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  Speaker 3: out I got traded, and I called my man's, But
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: I know my Man's is one of the biggest business
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  Speaker 3: men in in in just regular individually plus the I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't call him out, like did you know, because if
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  Speaker 3: you did, I'd understand the move. I understand what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: I understand, like, this is what you're doing for the team,
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  Speaker 3: for your organization. You on your way out. I got
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  Speaker 3: a few years left. You're not sending me to a
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  Speaker 3: shitty team. Like I get this business move. I don't
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  Speaker 3: need the clarification of you knowing about it or not.
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  Speaker 3: And I think Anthony Davis are looking for that. I
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  Speaker 3: think that tarnished their relationship and their friendship. If I
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: was Anthony Davis, I wouldn't believe it. If I was Broun,
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  Speaker 3: I would have been honest if I did. I think
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: Braun knew. But I do not think Anthony Davis knowing
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  Speaker 3: that would change anything. But that is something that happened.
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  Speaker 3: And now Anthony Davis is out, and it's like you're
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  Speaker 3: kind of proving the point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and just I'll say this and we'll kind of
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: wrap up. But it's very easy to see how Rob
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Pelinka and the Lakers brass and and the Mavericks brass is, Like, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: if we're making this trade happen, they don't need to
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  Speaker 1: tell nobody because they're gonna come back to then tell them, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: we just got you. Luka Doncic like what what he
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: can He can huff and puff all he wants, but
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: he knows in the back of his head like we
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  Speaker 1: got meluc.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy. Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Now this is gonna be interesting to see, like how
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: it even extends Lebron's career. Like I said, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, if they get to the finals and
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  Speaker 1: that'll be the same, unprecedented
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  Speaker 2: About