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Episode 1: Embracing Change: Navigating Midlife with Joy and Connection · The Joy Jolt Podcast

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  SPEAKER_01: Nobody has it all figured out.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nobody has it all together.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to That Explains A Lot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Real conversations about this messy, magical life.
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  SPEAKER_01: We talk about the things that don't make sense until suddenly they do.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we had liftoff.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're in.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're in.
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  SPEAKER_01: So welcome to this first episode of That Explains a Lot.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm Susan Patrick.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I am Natalie Ledwell.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we are super excited that you are here listening to us in this,
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  SPEAKER_01: what will be a messy and magical conversation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  So this is our very first jaunt together,
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  our very first episode together.
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  SPEAKER_03: So we wanted to start by explaining to you how this all came about.
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  SPEAKER_03: why we're here, what the hell is going on?
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  SPEAKER_01: What is going on?
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  And I love it did start with a very simple phone call when
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  Natalie called and said,
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  SPEAKER_01: Susan,
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  SPEAKER_01: I want to play and have fun.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was like,
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  SPEAKER_01: yeah,
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  let's play and let's have fun because I think life needs a
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  little bit more of that
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  SPEAKER_01: right now.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, let's be honest.
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  I mentioned it a couple of times before you called back and
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  went,
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  wait a minute.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now I've heard you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's do this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it took me a couple times to hear the message.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I think about that in life.
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  SPEAKER_01: How many times people are trying to give you the message.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, finally, I had to go, okay, Nat.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you've said this a couple times.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then your next line was, I want to play and I want to have some fun.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, let's do it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So the reason,
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  so Susan and I actually met through an organization called the
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  Association of
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  SPEAKER_03: Transformational Leaders.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's how we got to know it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I feel like there should be a sound effect there.
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  SPEAKER_03: So we've known each other for maybe 15 years.
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  SPEAKER_03: So quite a long time.
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  And the reason that I was reaching out to her and had the idea
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  about doing
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  SPEAKER_03: something together is that,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: most of you will know me through my other company,
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  SPEAKER_03: Mind Movies,
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  where I've been teaching manifestation and positive thinking
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  and training coaches
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  SPEAKER_03: for 18 years.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we've reached millions and millions of people.
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  And lately there's been something,
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  and I kind of want to say it's like a yearning.
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  SPEAKER_03: It feels a little bit like indigestion, you know.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I'm taking Tums and it's not going away.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I'm thinking...
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  SPEAKER_03: Maybe there's something here,
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  but there's been a big shift in the personal development
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  industry and we've all
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  SPEAKER_03: been talking about it.
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  And it seems that the way that we have done business up until
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  this point worked
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  SPEAKER_03: great guns for the longest time.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we were definitely the postage children for,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: all of the marketing and all the emails and all of that.
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  SPEAKER_03: But that doesn't seem to be working anymore.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  And people want something different and there's a different
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  feeling that's emerging
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  SPEAKER_01: or a different quality of experience that's emerging.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's the point.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think it's experience that people are really yearning for.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so within these conversations...
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  SPEAKER_03: I think part of what's been coming up is that,
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  SPEAKER_03: and especially in conversations I've had with,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: clients of mind movies,
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  SPEAKER_03: they go,
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  SPEAKER_03: we know what you're doing.
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  Like we know that when you say this and you're putting on the
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  scarcity and the fake
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  SPEAKER_03: whatever,
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  SPEAKER_03: like we get it.
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  SPEAKER_03: We understand.
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  SPEAKER_03: They can see the strategies now.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so what I feel like is people are really asking for is that they want
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  SPEAKER_03: connection and they want community.
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  SPEAKER_03: I had been the teacher, you know, the coach for a very long time.
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  But the subject that we want to address in this particular
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  podcast is really about
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  SPEAKER_03: what it's like to be a woman at this time of our life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is not my mother's midlife, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a completely different world, a completely different game.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think
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  thinking about how I want to play it moving forward and that
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  word play and have fun
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  SPEAKER_01: and experience and connect and generous.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think those were all the things that brought this together.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we don't, we don't want to be teachers or gurus.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's not what we're doing here.
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  We want to open up like a sacred container,
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  whereas women,
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  we can connect and we can talk
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  I mean,
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  we don't have all the answers when it comes to menopause and
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  midlife.
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  And everything is,
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  like you said,
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  Susan,
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  so different to when our mothers were this age.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we're navigating this for the first time.
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  SPEAKER_03: So we thought we'd just – this is a bit of a hunch.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is me trusting my intuition and going, I think that community –
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  and conversation is really what I want to be a part of and that
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  I want to help to create.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so that's kind of why we're here.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's what I want to create.
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  And so we're excited that you're here to be a part of this
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  first podcast and really
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  thinking about what are we doing here in our midlife and what
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  do we want the rest
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  SPEAKER_01: of it to look like?
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  SPEAKER_01: And more importantly, what do we want the rest of it to feel like?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know,
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  SPEAKER_01: to give a little bit of background about me,
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  SPEAKER_01: I've been doing something for the past 20 plus years that's been great,
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  SPEAKER_01: but I'm really ready to let it go.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm really rediscovering who I want to be.
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  And the more I talk to women,
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  the more I'm finding that that's a common denominator.
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  SPEAKER_01: We don't have it all figured out in our 50s.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've got a lot figured out,
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  but we're still figuring it out and we're finding and we're
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  discovering what's
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  SPEAKER_01: next.
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  SPEAKER_01: What do we want next?
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  SPEAKER_03: Well,
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  SPEAKER_03: the way,
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  SPEAKER_03: as I was mentioning before,
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  Susan and I met through an organization called the Association
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  of Transformation
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  SPEAKER_03: Leaders.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we've known each other for 15 years,
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  but we haven't been close for that length of time because I was
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  a little bit of a
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  SPEAKER_03: hard nut to crack in the beginning.
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  Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: I kept trying to crack it.
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  So when I first joined that organization,
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  it was really towards the end of my marriage.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I was so unhappy in my marriage.
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  But you know when you're in something like that and from the
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  outside looking in,
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  SPEAKER_03: everything looked great.
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  SPEAKER_03: Everything looked amazing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: People were like, oh, you guys have the best relationship.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we did.
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  SPEAKER_03: We had a great life.
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  SPEAKER_03: We traveled.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was fulfilled with what I was doing, but I was desperately unhappy.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I didn't want to let anyone close because if I let them in,
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  SPEAKER_03: they would see past the facade and realize there was nothing under there.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I was just, you know.
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  SPEAKER_03: And, of course, you know, I had this feeling like, well,
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm the mind movies lady.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm supposed to have all my shit together.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm supposed to have all the answers.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I was kind of flailing.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it wasn't until my husband and I separated that I really started to
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  intentionally form these incredibly enriching and amazing
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  girlfriend relationships.
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  SPEAKER_03: Susan was one of those women.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it has absolutely changed my life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  And I think that that giving giving ourselves permission to be
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  in the reinvention.
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  I think there's this paradigm in this story that you're
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  supposed to have it all
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  SPEAKER_01: together and you're supposed to know all the answers.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's I just don't think that it's not true.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not true for anybody that I've talked to.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nobody has it all figured out.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nobody has it all together.
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  And so it's surrendering that and being humble and opening
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  yourself up so that we
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  SPEAKER_01: can create some real connections that can create some pivots,
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  SPEAKER_01: that can create some energy,
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  SPEAKER_01: that can help us to more fully kind of embrace this messy,
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  SPEAKER_01: and I love our tagline,
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  SPEAKER_01: this messy,
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  SPEAKER_01: magical life.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's, I think, what it is that we're doing.
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  SPEAKER_03: I know.
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  SPEAKER_03: I remember having a moment maybe a year ago,
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  SPEAKER_03: it was a girl's dinner at my girlfriend Melanie's house.
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  SPEAKER_03: And there was a group of us there,
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  SPEAKER_03: all women,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: we're just chatting,
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  SPEAKER_03: having a glass of wine.
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  SPEAKER_03: And the conversation was around what I call the doona dance.
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  SPEAKER_03: So a doona is like a,
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  SPEAKER_03: yeah,
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  SPEAKER_03: a doona in Australia,
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  SPEAKER_03: we call it a doona,
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  SPEAKER_03: but it's like a duvet,
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  SPEAKER_03: like a,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: like the blanket on the bed,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: the heavy,
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  SPEAKER_03: heavy blanket.
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  SPEAKER_03: So,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: the doona dance is when,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: you,
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  SPEAKER_03: you first,
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  SPEAKER_03: you start underneath the doona,
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  SPEAKER_03: but then you have to put one leg out and then you have to throw.
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  the whole thing off and then you have to pull a little bit back
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  again and so you're
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  going so we were nearly peeing ourselves laughing about the
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  whole doona dance
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  situation and i'm like this is where we're at right now i'm
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  like here's my i'm at a
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  dinner party and this is the conversation topic you can do the
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  dance if you want to
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  SPEAKER_01: you can leave your marriage behind no
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  SPEAKER_01: Because if the do, no, don't dance and the do, no, don't.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, sorry.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know why I went into song.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_03: So these are the kind of conversations that we want to open up to.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I'm hoping that with the community that we create,
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  SPEAKER_03: that within that community that you will find friendships.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: That you'll find,
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  SPEAKER_03: because,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  maybe there are not people in your life that you can have these
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  conversations with,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: or maybe not at this level or this,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: these particular topics.
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  So we really want to make sure that you have a space where it's
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  safe for you to
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  SPEAKER_03: laugh and to cry and to share.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that by doing that, we realize that we're not alone.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not alone.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think that statement,
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  I think that we're living in a world where we're supposedly
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  supposed to be more
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  SPEAKER_01: connected than ever before,
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  SPEAKER_01: but people are feeling lonelier,
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  SPEAKER_01: a depth of loneliness that is profound.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so really leveraging technologies like this,
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  SPEAKER_01: conversations like this,
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  spaces like this for people to have more genuine connection so
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  that it can,
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  SPEAKER_01: we just,
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  I want a little more energy in my life and I want other people
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  to have more energy
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  SPEAKER_01: in their life.
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  And,
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  and I think that's,
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  that's what,
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  what all of this is,
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  is,
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  is promoting and desiring.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: I call it a joy jolt, right?
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  Bring a little,
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  we need to just,
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  you know,
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  kind of bring a little more energy in.
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  SPEAKER_03: I love your joy jolts.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're way better in person, but, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: They are.
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  My son's now adopted doing the joy jolts and he's 14 and
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  sometimes they're a little hard.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, if you need back practice, it's kind of a good thing.
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  And I think that also that a lot of the women that I have been
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  working with through
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  SPEAKER_03: the My Movies community,
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  SPEAKER_03: we feel like we're kind of at this stage in life where –
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  A lot of us have that feeling,
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  not indigestion,
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  but of there's something different.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's something else.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like I remember at the end of my marriage,
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  SPEAKER_03: I was getting this message coming in that was like,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: you're wasting time.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, I don't know what that means.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, I've got this amazing business and I'm helping to change lives.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like what could that possibly mean?
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  SPEAKER_03: And I think that once my marriage ended –
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  SPEAKER_03: The big question I kept asking myself was, well, who am I?
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't even know who I am without him.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, who am I without, you know, being Glenn and Nat.
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  SPEAKER_03: There was been that like for 18 years.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then I shifted the question,
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  SPEAKER_03: which is what we want to explore here with you all as well,
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  SPEAKER_03: is not specifically who am I,
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  SPEAKER_03: but who do I want to be?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because, you know, we're, you know, I'm a doer.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm a GSD.
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  SPEAKER_03: I get shit done.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like it's, you know, you give me a doer.
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  SPEAKER_01: You do get shit done now.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, right, here is the SOP.
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  SPEAKER_03: Here is the 15 steps.
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  SPEAKER_03: We need to get it done.
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  SPEAKER_03: But now I'm really asking the question, well, who am I being?
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  SPEAKER_03: Who do I want to be?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so as you say that,
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  SPEAKER_01: taking that deep breath,
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  SPEAKER_01: and I just heard this on another podcast,
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  SPEAKER_01: which I loved,
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  SPEAKER_01: because the B is eternal and the B is internal.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the B isn't about what's on the outside.
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  SPEAKER_01: It really is that...
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think this is the gift of this part of midlife is it is,
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  SPEAKER_01: if you use it really well,
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  you get to really look at yourself in a way that you haven't
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  been able to ever look
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  at yourself because life was moving so fast and there were so
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  many other things you
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  SPEAKER_01: were tending to and,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: marriages you were taking care of,
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  SPEAKER_01: babies you were taking care of,
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  SPEAKER_01: businesses that you were taking care of.
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  SPEAKER_01: And now there's this unique moment where you're, well, who do I be?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Who do I desire to be?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  And breathing into that from a space of like feeling expanded
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  and joyful rather
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  SPEAKER_01: than,
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  SPEAKER_01: oh,
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  SPEAKER_01: my God,
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  SPEAKER_01: I,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: that heaviness.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I don't know about any of you that are listening,
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  SPEAKER_03: but I know for me,
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  SPEAKER_03: I was having major moments of self-doubt.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, I don't know if I can do this.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if I can step into this.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't like,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  I haven't done this before or it was something that was outside
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  my comfort zone.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I was like, you know, really beating myself up about it intensely.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  And the only thing really that helped me get out of that was to
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  intentionally
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  SPEAKER_03: surround myself with amazing,
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  incredible women who I respected and looked up to so that they
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  could keep reminding
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  SPEAKER_03: me,
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  SPEAKER_03: no,
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  SPEAKER_03: Nat,
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  SPEAKER_03: you've got this.
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  yeah yeah and that this is a community where people can we're
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  going to remind each
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  other yeah right that a what you're going through is normal but
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  we're living in an
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  abnormal world and so that's what's going to make it messy and
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  really coming to a
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  space where we can have i love you know that explains a lot to
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  me is the energy
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  behind when you get to that moment energetically and you and
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  something clicks
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  SPEAKER_01: inside of you and you go
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  oh that that moment of oh that explains a lot that's why that
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  the podcast is named
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  that because it is that moment of oh and you feel more
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  integrated with yourself and
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  and that we're not looking for explanation outside of ourselves
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  we're really
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  inviting greater permission to explore the being of ourself
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  yeah so we can go oh
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  SPEAKER_03: that explains a lot and even understanding how physically
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  SPEAKER_03: We are going through different things.
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  Like the last time I thought that explains a lot was when
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  actually one of my
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_03: neighbors sent me an article about how our brains are completely rewiring
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  SPEAKER_03: themselves at this time of our life because we don't need to be fully,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  multitasking anymore with the kids and the husband and the job
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  and the thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: We don't need to do all of that anymore.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it's rewiring for who we are becoming at this time of our life.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I'm like, ah, that explains a lot.
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  SPEAKER_01: That explains it.
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  Because I could sit down at my computer sometimes and go,
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  for three hours.
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  SPEAKER_03: Is this thing on?
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_01: I can't do my thoughts together.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, is this thing on?
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hello.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hello.
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  SPEAKER_01: Anyone in there?
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  SPEAKER_01: I really,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that for me,
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  one of the things I really appreciated about bringing this
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  conversation to light
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  was it felt so validating for me to be sitting with you who
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  it's really easy to
• 15:44
  look at the person sitting next to you and see their shiny life
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  and see what
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: they've been up to and build up such a story that,
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: oh,
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  SPEAKER_01: they've got it all together.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they've got it all figured out.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I should be.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I think that I love the transparency.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love the honesty.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love the, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so there's this almost permission to be in wonder.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, let's get back to wonder in our lives.
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  SPEAKER_01: Remember when we were younger, there was a feeling of like, what's next?
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  And I'm like,
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  that's what I want this community to bring out more of in me.
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  SPEAKER_01: And what I want to inspire in the energy of these conversations is more
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  wonder around what's next whoa what I wonder what's around the
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  corner I wonder and
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  and that it I mean we're living in an exciting time but we're
• 16:38
  living in a messy
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  time yeah and and so how can we stand in all of the heaviness
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  of of this world in
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  wonder yeah and the technology we have at our fingertips is a
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  blessing and a curse
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's both, you know.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's both.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's why this is not my mother's menopause.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_01: You know,
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  SPEAKER_01: I have tools at my disposal,
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  SPEAKER_01: but there's also other things that my mom never had to deal with.
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  SPEAKER_01: The women who came before us that didn't have to deal with.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I think one of the strongest things that we have,
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: like never before,
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: is community and authentic connection and experience.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have access in a way,
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  SPEAKER_01: digitally,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: through these platforms like this,
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  SPEAKER_01: these types of conversations,
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  SPEAKER_01: that's exciting.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I think,
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  SPEAKER_03: too,
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  SPEAKER_03: because I think in general,
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  SPEAKER_03: we're all going through a bit of an identity shredding.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, we're shedding, sorry.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're shedding this identity of who we were before,
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  SPEAKER_03: what was important to us,
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_03: what was more meaningful,
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_03: because what's meaningful to us now is different.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's different to what it used to be.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um,
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  SPEAKER_03: and I think for us to become this version,
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  SPEAKER_03: even though we have no idea what that is yet,
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_03: there is going to be a little bit of an unraveling.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_03: There's going to be a little bit of a messy,
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_03: magical,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: transition that we go through to get to that point.
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  And that's why I think a community like this is going to be
• 18:03
  really important
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_03: because,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: we can,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  go through that together and we can laugh about it and we can
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  talk about it and we
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_03: can,
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: do all those kinds of things.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_03: But
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  SPEAKER_03: But when we're doing it together in an environment where we're all really
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  SPEAKER_03: supportive and uplifting each other,
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  SPEAKER_03: that's where the magic is.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I love it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's an invitation.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: Nat and I talking right now,
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  SPEAKER_01: I hope that what's being expressed is,
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  I want to sit up here and be in the discovery of this
• 18:33
  conversation just as much as
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: being a part of the conversation,
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: right?
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: So we have ideas of what we want to bring in future episodes,
• 18:41
  but we really see this being a space where we want to invite
• 18:45
  women to be in the
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: an active contribution of what is being created.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_01: So,
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: so,
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  this is not about having the lesson plan and we're all going to
• 18:55
  take the test at
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: the end and let's see if we pass,
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: this is a completely different paradigm.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: It is.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's not the 10 steps to manifest whatever you want in your life.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's my movies.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_03: That's, that's my other business is what I do over there.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_03: But here is different.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_03: Here's like, here's where we share truth.
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  You know,
• 19:14
  our own truth,
• 19:15
  where we realize there's really nothing wrong with us.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, we're just going through this, this incredible transition.
• 19:22
  And it's a conversation,
• 19:24
  but a conversation that we all get to contribute to.
• 19:29
  and a conversation that's desiring there to be an outcome that
• 19:34
  feels good,
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: that's more playful,
• 19:36
  that is emboldened in having greater joy and access to life
• 19:41
  force and energy.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I wanna play over there.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: I wanna get the chills more often.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: I want to feel like I'm like inhaling because I'm excited more.
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  I desire that more for me and I desire that more for the women
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  in my life.
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  SPEAKER_01: And generating that experience with each other.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: I think we're on to something really fun.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well,
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  SPEAKER_03: my girlfriend,
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: Dr.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: Anna Chebecker,
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_03: she has a lot of products and things that help women in menopause.
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  SPEAKER_03: She's a gynecologist.
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  SPEAKER_03: And she said, you know, menopause is mandatory, but suffering isn't.
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  SPEAKER_03: But what we're talking about here is like we're not going to suffer.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're not going to just get through.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're not going to just survive.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're going to do it with a smile on our face.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: Even if it starts out as a scowl.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_03: And really,
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 20:44
  enjoying it and sharing it and embracing it in a way rather
• 20:48
  than seeing it as a
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: burden or as another thing.
• 20:51
  I remember there's a book out about menopause and the title of
• 20:55
  the book is What
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_03: Fresh Hell Is This?
• 20:57
  What Fresh Hell?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: What Fresh Hell?
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_03: So we don't want to,
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_03: we don't like,
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_03: as these things come up,
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_03: we want to be able to share them.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_03: We want to be able to laugh and have some levity to it,
• 21:10
  but also in an environment where we're having positive
• 21:14
  conversation about things
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_03: that we can do.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_03: And we're sharing different,
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: strategies and sharing different,
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_03: products and things that we come across that can be helpful.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_03: And we also want to have you as part of that conversation as well.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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  So if there is anything that you have heard today that makes
• 21:38
  you feel seen or
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_03: recognized or go,
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_03: wait a minute,
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_03: that sounds just like me.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Makes you exhale.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, then you're exactly where you're supposed to be.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the conversation.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the conversation.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the conversation.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_03: So we invite you to subscribe to our channel.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_03: You know, most of our content will be here in Substack.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_03: We will be putting out on other platforms,
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_03: but I'll be honest with you,
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_03: the other platforms are too scary a place for me to be hanging out.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_03: Too noisy.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:11
  But we love Substack because,
• 22:13
  you know,
• 22:14
  it seems to be a really grounded place.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_03: There's not a lot of, you know, advertising and different things.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_03: I've even seen a lot of people,
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_03: respectfully disagree with someone and they become friends.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_03: With this kind of place.
• 22:27
  So this is where we want to hang and this is where we want to
• 22:29
  invite you to come
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: and hang with us.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:31
  Please share this with friends that you'd like to include in
• 22:33
  this conversation
• 22:34
  because this is the beginning of what I think is going to be a
• 22:37
  really powerful
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: community.
• 22:39
  So to be here at the ground floor like this and seeding the
• 22:43
  ideas of what we're
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: going to stand on is exciting.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: So make sure that you come back each week.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: We want to be in this conversation with you.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: We want to connect with you.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: We want to energize with you.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: So next week, we're going to be talking about a fun subject, right, Nat?
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_03: We are.
• 22:59
  We're going to be talking about why so many women feel
• 23:01
  restless,
• 23:02
  even when life looks fine.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_03: I've been through that a couple of times.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_03: So, you know, I have a little bit to contribute to that conversation.
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  So until next week,
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  we want to encourage you to just stay curious and,
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  of course,
• 23:19
  stay kind.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_03: As you move through this messy and magical life.