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Joni Table Talk Podcast (Video) - Spiritual Warfare Prayers | Bishop Gregory Toussaint · Shine FM

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  ♪♪
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  JONI LAMB: HELLO, AND WELCOME TO JONI TABLE TALK,
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  THE SHOW WHERE WE BRING YOU REAL CONVERSATIONS THAT MATTER.
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  I'M YOUR HOST, JONI LAMB.
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  JOIN US AS WE EXPLORE UNFORGETTABLE TESTIMONIES,
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  TACKLE HARD-HITTING TOPICS, AND UNCOVER THE TRUTH
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  THAT TRANSFORMS LIVES WITH AUTHENTICITY,
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  BIBLICAL WISDOM, AND A HEART FOR TRANSFORMATION.
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  SO PULL UP A CHAIR, JOIN US AROUND THE TABLE,
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  AND LET'S DIVE RIGHT IN.
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  ♪♪
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  RACHEL LAMB BROWN: THROUGHOUT YOUR LIFE,
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  THERE WILL BE SEASONS OF SPIRITUAL WARFARE.
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  THE TRUTH IS THAT THERE ARE DARK FORCES
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  THAT WANT TO ATTACK YOUR LIFE AND FAMILY.
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  AND THE KEY TO FREEDOM
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  IS A DEVELOPED PRAYER LIFE
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  THAT'S READY FOR THE BATTLE.
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  WELCOME TO FRIENDS FROM THE TABLE.
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  I'M YOUR HOST, RACHEL LAMB BROWN,
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  AND I'M HERE JOINED WITH MY CO-HOST,
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  DOROTHY NEWTON.
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  DOROTHY NEWTON: SO HAPPY TO BE HERE.
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  RACHEL: WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM TODAY.
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  DOROTHY: THANK YOU.
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  RACHEL: WE'RE GOING TO GET, WE'RE GOING TO GET
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  INTO ALL OF IT.
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  DOROTHY: OH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
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  RACHEL: OKAY.
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  WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO WELCOME OUR SPECIAL GUEST,
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  BISHOP GREGORY TOUSSAINT.
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  WELCOME TO THE SHOW TODAY.
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  GREGORY TOUSSAINT: THANK YOU, RACHEL.
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  THANKS, DOROTHY.
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  IT'S A, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
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  RACHEL: WE'RE EXCITED TO GET TO KNOW YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
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  YOU HAVE A THRIVING
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  CHURCH COMMUNITY, 70 CAMPUSES.
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  GREGORY: YES.
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  RACHEL: I MEAN, THAT JUST SHOWS THE HAND OF GOD ON YOUR LIFE,
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  YOUR MINISTRY.
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  WE WERE AT DINNER LAST NIGHT, DOROTHY,
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  AND I WAS LIKE, I ASKED HIS WIFE, SHE SAID 70.
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  I SAID AS IN 7-0? AND SHE SAID, YES.
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  I WAS LIKE, MAN, THAT IS A LOT TO MANAGE.
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  GREGORY: YEAH.
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  RACHEL: BUT I WANT YOU TO TAKE US BACK TO THE BEGINNING.
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  WERE YOU ALWAYS RAISED IN A CHRISTIAN FAMILY
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  AND KNEW THAT YOU WANTED TO BE IN MINISTRY?
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  GREGORY: NO. I WAS, I WAS BORN IN A CHRISTIAN FAMILY.
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  MY MOTHER AND MY FATHER, BOTH WERE SAVED,
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  SO THAT WAS A BLESSING.
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  BUT I USED TO GO TO CHURCH JUST BECAUSE
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  MY PARENTS ASKED ME.
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  RACHEL: YEAH.
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  GREGORY: ASKED ME TO.
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  SO I WOULD JUST GO TO CHURCH BY ROUTINE.
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  AND, OF COURSE, THAT WAS IN BROOKLYN, NEW YORK.
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  I WAS BORN IN HAITI, MIGRATED TO BROOKLYN, NEW YORK,
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  YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS 14 YEARS OLD.
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  AND, YOU KNOW, I STARTED GOING TO, YOU KNOW,
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  I WAS GOING TO MY PARENTS' CHURCH IN BROOKLYN.
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  AND DURING SERVICE, WE WOULD SIT IN THE LAST ROW,
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  YOU KNOW, WE'D BE CHEWING GUM, YOU KNOW,
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  AND, YOU KNOW --
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  RACHEL: AS ANY KID SHOULD.
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  AS ANY KID DOES.
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  [ LAUGHTER ]
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  GREGORY: SO, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, JUST LAUGHING,
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  AND THAT WAS IT, YOU KNOW.
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  SO, I WOULD GO TO CHURCH
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  PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF MY PARENTS
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  AND TO SEE MY FRIENDS.
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  SO, TO ME, THAT'S WHAT CHURCH WAS ALL ABOUT.
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  AND ONE FRIDAY NIGHT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS
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  A YOUTH SERVICE AT THE CHURCH.
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  AND, OF COURSE, I WENT, YOU KNOW, TO HANG OUT
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  WITH MY FRIENDS AND HAVE FUN DURING THE SERVICE.
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  AND THERE WAS A YOUNG GIRL WHO WAS LEADING THE SERVICE.
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  HER NAME WAS MARIE-MICHELE, AND SHE WAS SINGING A SONG,
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  JESUS IS COMING SOON, MORNING OR NIGHT OR DAY.
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  AND SHE WAS SINGING THAT SONG AND WE WERE SMILING,
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  CRACKING, CRACKING JOKES.
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  AND THEN SUDDENLY I HEARD A VOICE
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  WHILE SHE WAS SINGING THE SONG, I HEARD A VOICE THAT SAID,
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  WELL, IF JESUS WERE TO COME TODAY,
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  WOULD YOU BE READY?
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  AND THAT WAS THAT --
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  THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT I HAD THAT EXPERIENCE.
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  I'M LIKE, OKAY.
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  YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY, I WAS HOT AND COLD
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  AT THE SAME TIME.
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  I FELT MY HAIR WAS STANDING UP.
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  MY HEART WAS BEATING FAST.
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  BECAUSE I WAS JUST 14 YEARS OLD,
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  BUT I KNEW I WOULDN'T BE READY IF JESUS HAD COME
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  AT THAT TIME.
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  I KNEW, I KNEW THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN READY.
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  AND SO I FORGOT ABOUT MY FRIENDS
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  FOR A WHILE.
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  AND THEN I JUST GOT UP RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE
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  OF THE SERVICE.
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  I WENT TO THE ALTAR AND I ASKED FOR PRAYER.
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  SO THERE WAS NO ALTAR CALL,
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  THEY DIDN'T ASK ME TO COME FORWARD.
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  RACHEL: WOW.
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  GREGORY: I INTERRUPTED THE SERVICE, YOU KNOW.
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  AND I, AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, I NEED JESUS.
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  SO THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF IT FOR ME.
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  AND, OF COURSE, EVERYTHING CHANGED AFTER THAT.
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  RACHEL: YEAH. AND YOU STARTED PREACHING
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  AT AN EARLY AGE.
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  GREGORY: YES, ABOUT A YEAR LATER.
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  RACHEL: AT 15.
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  GREGORY: ABOUT A YEAR LATER I STARTED PREACHING,
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  15 YEARS OLD.
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  RACHEL: AND HOW DID THAT GO?
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  GREGORY: AGAIN, THAT WAS AN ENCOUNTER WITH THE LORD.
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  I WAS IN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IN BROOKLYN, NEW YORK.
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  I DIDN'T LIVE TOO FAR FROM THE CHURCH,
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  ABOUT TWO BLOCKS FROM THE CHURCH.
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  AND, YOU KNOW, AS I WOULD -- THERE'S A PHENOMENON
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  THAT STARTED HAPPENING AS I WALKED,
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  AFTER I GOT SAVED.
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  AS I LEAVE MY HOUSE TO WALK OVER TO THE CHURCH,
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  MANY TIMES I HEARD A VOICE CALLING ME,
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  CALLING MY NAME, BUT OUT LOUD, LIKE GREGORY, GREGORY.
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  BUT IT WOULD OFTEN CALL IT TWICE, GREGORY, GREGORY.
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  THEN I LOOK BACK AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY.
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  I'M LIKE, OKAY, THE FIRST TIME I JUST,
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  I JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, IT WENT OFF.
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  DOROTHY: SO IS THIS AFTER YOUR SURRENDER MOMENT?
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  GREGORY: AFTER.
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  AFTER I GIVE MY LIFE TO CHRIST,
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  MAYBE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AFTER.
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  AND I HEARD THAT VOICE.
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  I HEARD IT ONE TIME AND I HEARD IT A SECOND TIME.
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  I HEARD IT A THIRD TIME.
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  BY THAT TIME, I REALLY STARTED TO, YOU KNOW,
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  GET PANICKED BECAUSE HERE I AM,
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  I'M HEARING SOMEBODY CALLING OUT.
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  RACHEL: YES. WERE YOU SCARED?
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  LIKE, WHAT --
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  GREGORY: YES, I WAS SCARED.
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  RACHEL: IS SOMEBODY FOLLOWING ME?
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  LIKE, WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW?
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  GREGORY: SO I'M LIKE, OKAY, WHAT'S HAPPENING?
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  OKAY, AM I LOSING MY MIND?
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  RACHEL: YEAH.
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  GREGORY: SO I SAID, OKAY, MAYBE THERE'S A PROBLEM.
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  MAYBE THERE'S A -- BECAUSE I'M HEARING VOICES.
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  I'M 14 YEARS OLD.
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  I WAS, YOU KNOW, AFRAID TO TELL MY PARENTS.
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  AND THE REASON I WAS AFRAID TO TELL MY PARENTS
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  WAS, OF COURSE, WE GREW UP IN A CHRISTIAN FAMILY,
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  BUT MY PARENTS MIGRATED TO THE UNITED STATES FIRST,
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  AND THEY LEFT US IN HAITI MAYBE ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS,
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  WE WERE IN HAITI.
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  AND DURING THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, I WALKED AWAY
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  FROM THE CHURCH, YOU KNOW, SO.
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  RACHEL: WOW.
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  GREGORY: YOU KNOW, SO 12, I WAS ABOUT MAYBE ABOUT 12 YEARS OLD.
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  AND, YOU KNOW, I NO LONGER WENT TO CHURCH.
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  WELL, WELL, NO, LET'S SAY IT THAT WAY.
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  I WENT TO, YOU KNOW, THEY -- WE ARE PART
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  OF AN EVANGELICAL CHURCH.
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  RACHEL: YEAH.
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  GREGORY: SO I SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO GO TO
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  THE CATHOLIC CHURCH BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
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  THE GIRLS WERE MORE BEAUTIFUL.
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  RACHEL: OH!
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  GREGORY: SO I SAID, I THINK I HAD --
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  DOROTHY: YOU HAD A DIFFERENT AGENDA.
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  GREGORY: YEAH.
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  THEN I SAID, SO NOW WHEN I GOT TO THE UNITED STATES,
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  I SAID, MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I WAS DISOBEDIENT
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  TO MY PARENTS.
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  MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I, MAYBE I OPENED SOME KIND OF DOOR
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  AND SOMETHING IS FOLLOWING ME.
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  SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO,
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  HOW TO HANDLE IT.
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  BUT THANK GOD, WHEN I GOT SAVED,
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  I HAD A SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER,
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  AND MAYBE HE WAS A LITTLE BIT LIKE
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  TEN YEARS, TEN YEARS OLDER THAN ME.
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  AND I KIND OF, KIND OF CONNECTED WITH HIM.
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  SO AFTER CLASS ONE SUNDAY, I SAID, I HAVE A PROBLEM.
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  YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO TALK
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  TO YOU PERSONALLY.
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  AND HE SAT DOWN AND I TOLD HIM, I HAVE A PROBLEM.
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  I'M HEARING VOICES.
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  YOU KNOW, I'M WALKING THE STREETS
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  AND I'M HEARING SOMEBODY CALLING ME.
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  BUT WHEN I TURN BACK, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY.
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  AND WHILE I WAS TELLING HIM THAT, HE'S --
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  I SAW THAT HE WAS SMILING.
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  I'M LIKE, THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE.
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  I'M EITHER DEALING WITH INSANITY OR WITCHCRAFT.
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  RACHEL: WE NEED ANSWERS.
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  GREGORY: YES. EITHER ONE IS BAD, YOU KNOW.
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  AND THEN HE WAS SMILING AND HE LISTENED TO ME.
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  AND THEN HE SAID, THE NEXT TIME YOU HEAR THAT VOICE,
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  SAY, SPEAK, LORD, FOR YOUR SERVANT LISTENS.
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  HE TOLD ME, THE LORD IS CALLING YOU,
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  LIKE HE WAS CALLING THE YOUNG SAMUEL.
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  AND SO I WAS COMFORTED -- COMFORTED.
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  SO I KEPT WHAT HE SAID IN MIND.
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  AND THE NEXT TIME I HEARD THE VOICE,
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  AGAIN, I'M WALKING THE STREET,
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  I HEAR THE VOICE CLEARLY.
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  GREGORY, GREGORY.
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  AND THEN THIS,
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  THAT TIME I DIDN'T TURN BACK.
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  I JUST SAY, LORD, SPEAK, FOR YOUR SERVANT LISTENS.
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  NOW, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING AT THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT.
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  BUT NOT LONG AFTER, YOU KNOW, AT NIGHT
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  I'M SLEEPING,
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  AND I HAD THAT DREAM.
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  I SAW THAT -- I SAW THAT I WAS STANDING ON A STAGE.
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  IT'S LIKE THE STAGE, IT'S ON THE STEPS OF A STAGE.
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  IT'S LIKE I WAS ON THE STEP AND THERE WAS
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  SOMEBODY STANDING ABOVE WHO WAS HIGHER.
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  I COULD SEE THE, I COULD SEE THE PERSON'S FEET,
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  I COULD SEE THE ROBE.
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  IT WAS A WHITE ROBE.
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  I DIDN'T SEE THE FACE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
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  IT WAS LIKE JUST LIGHT.
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  BUT I WAS -- THE PERSON WAS STANDING, YOU KNOW, ABOVE.
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  I WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A STEP BELOW.
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  AND HE SAID, GREGORY,
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  TELL THEM WHAT I TOLD YOU.
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  TELL THEM WHAT I TOLD YOU.
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  AND THEN WHEN I LOOKED, I SAW A MULTITUDE OF
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  MASSES OF PEOPLE THAT I COULDN'T COUNT.
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  AND HE SAID, TELL THEM WHAT I TOLD YOU.
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  AND AT THAT TIME I WAS ABOUT 15 YEARS OLD.
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  I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANT.
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  I DIDN'T --
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  I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST DREAM THAT I REMEMBER IN MY LIFE.
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  RACHEL: WOW.
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  SO YOU KNEW IT WAS SIGNIFICANT?
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  GREGORY: YEAH. I KNEW IT WAS SIGNIFICANT.
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  I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANT, BUT, YOU KNOW,
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  BUT I FELT IT WAS SIGNIFICANT.
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  SO I KEPT IT IN MIND.
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  AND THEN SOON AFTERWARDS, YOU KNOW,
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  WELL, OF COURSE, DURING THAT SAME TIME,
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  I STARTED TO HAVE A PASSION, YOU KNOW,
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  FOR THE WORD OF GOD.
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  I STARTED READING THE WORD OF GOD,
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  SPENDING A WHOLE LOT OF TIME IN THE WORD OF GOD.
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  I STARTED PREPARING MESSAGES.
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  I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I WAS GOING TO PREACH THEM.
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  SOME OF THEM I, YOU KNOW, SINCE I DIDN'T HAVE
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  ANYWHERE TO PREACH, I WOULD PREACH
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  AT THE BATHROOM.
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  I WOULD PREACH TO THE TOOTHBRUSH AND SAY,
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  YOU NEED TO GET SAVED.
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  AND THE TOOTHPASTE,
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  YOU NEED TO COME TO REPENTANCE.
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  SO WHEN I'M TAKING MY SHOWER I WOULD
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  PREACH MY MESSAGES.
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  AND THEN ONE SATURDAY MORNING, MY BROTHER,
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  MY OLDER BROTHER, WHO WAS A YOUTH PASTOR,
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  WAS SUPPOSED TO PREACH AT A SERVICE IN THE CHURCH.
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  AND THEN HE SAID THEY CALLED HIM TO WORK.
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  HE COULDN'T SHOW UP.
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  HE SAID, GREG, NOW I ALWAYS HEAR YOU PREACHING
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  IN THE BATHROOM, YOU KNOW,
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  SO NOW HERE'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY
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  TO PREACH TO A LIVE AUDIENCE.
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  RACHEL: WOW.
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  GREGORY: AND SO HE SAID, WHY DON'T YOU GO AND REPLACE ME,
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  BECAUSE I'M SUPPOSED TO PREACH TODAY,
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  BUT I CAN'T MAKE IT.
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  SO WHY DON'T YOU GO AND REPLACE ME?
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  SO I HAD MESSAGES THAT I HAD WRITTEN DOWN
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  FROM MY BIBLE READING.
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  I HAD LIKE, I HAD EIGHT PAGES OF MANUSCRIPT
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  THAT I HAD UNDER MY BED.
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  RACHEL: WOW.
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  GREGORY: BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I WAS
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  GOING TO PREACH THEM.
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  YOU KNOW, I JUST PUT THEM THERE.
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  AND THEN SO I TOOK THAT MANUSCRIPT THAT I HAD
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  PREPARED ON EPHESIANS CHAPTER 6 ON SPIRITUAL WARFARE.
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  RACHEL: WOW.
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  GREGORY: EPHESIANS CHAPTER 6.
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  AND I TOOK THAT MANUSCRIPT AND I WENT TO
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  THE CHURCH TO PREACH.
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  SO THERE WERE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ABOUT
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  LESS THAN TEN PEOPLE.
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  IT WAS A SMALL FASTING SERVICE.
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  I WENT THERE AND THEY ASKED ME TO COME AND PREACH.
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  I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I HAD BEEN WORKING ON
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  THOSE MESSAGES FOR A LONG TIME.
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  OF COURSE, I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I WAS GOING
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  TO PREACH THEM, BUT I HAD BEEN PREPARING THEM
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  FOR A LONG TIME.
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  SO I FELT I REALLY WAS GOING TO PREACH.
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  SO I STOOD ON THE PULPIT AND I STARTED READING
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  THE FIRST PAGE, AND ABOUT TWO MINUTES LATER,
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  I SAW THAT I WAS ON PAGE EIGHT.
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  I WAS ON THE LAST PAGE.
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  RACHEL: WOW.
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  GREGORY: I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED
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  TO PAGES TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN.
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  [ LAUGHTER ]
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  GREGORY: I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS SO --
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  RACHEL: NERVOUS?
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  GREGORY: NERVOUS THAT I SKIPPED THE PAGES.
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  I DON'T KNOW IF I DROPPED THEM.
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  UNTIL TODAY, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
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  I JUST KNOW I STARTED WITH PAGE ONE
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  AND ABOUT TWO MINUTES LATER I WAS ON PAGE EIGHT.
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  SO, WHEN I SAW I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY,
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  I LOOKED AT EVERYBODY AND SAY, THANK YOU.
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  RACHEL: WOW.
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  GREGORY: BUT, MAN, WHERE --
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  AS I WAS WALKING OFF THE STAGE, I FELT SO ASHAMED,
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  DEFEATED, HUMILIATED, BECAUSE I THOUGHT
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  I WAS GOING TO PREACH THAT GREAT
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  EIGHT-PAGE MANUSCRIPT SERMON.
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  AND I COULDN'T, I DIDN'T PREACH FOR TWO MINUTES.
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  AND THEN THE SISTER WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE
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  FOR THE FASTING SERVICE SAID, WOW.
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  SHE SAID, THAT WAS, WELL, SHE SAID IT WAS SHORT,
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  BUT IT WAS GOOD.
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  OH, OKAY.
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  SO I SAID, WELL, IF IT WAS GOOD, MAYBE I CAN
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  WORK ON IT, MAKE IT LONGER.
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  RACHEL: WHAT DID YOUR BROTHER SAY?
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  GREGORY: NO, MY BROTHER WASN'T THERE.
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  HE WENT TO WORK.
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  HE HAD GONE TO WORK.
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  SO MY BROTHER WASN'T THERE.
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  SHE SAID IT WAS SHORT AND IT WAS GOOD.
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  SO I SAID, OKAY, WELL, IF IT WAS GOOD,
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  THEN WE'LL WORK ON THE SHORT PART.
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  AND THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF MY PREACHING MINISTRY.
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  RACHEL: WOW.
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  GREGORY: AND THEN FROM THERE, YOU KNOW, I BEGAN TO PREACH
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  AT MY CHURCH IN YOUTH SERVICE
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  AND IN DIFFERENT CHURCHES, AND THEY STARTED
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  INVITING ME IN DIFFERENT PLACES TO PREACH.
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  AND, YOU KNOW, IT DEVELOPED.
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  SO WE DEVELOP AN EVANGELISTIC MINISTRY.
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  SO I MINISTERED AS AN EVANGELIST FOR
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  CLOSE TO 15 YEARS.
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  SO, TRAVELING.
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  AND IT WAS YEARS LATER, IN MY 20S,
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  THAT I REMEMBERED THE DREAM
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  THAT I HAD WHEN I WAS 15 YEARS OLD,
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  WHILE I WAS ON, YOU KNOW, ON AN AIRPLANE,
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  ON A FLIGHT FROM MIAMI TO NEW YORK.
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  AND THAT DREAM FLASHED IN MY SPIRIT.
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  AND I HEARD SOMEBODY SAY THAT THAT'S
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  THE REALIZATION OF THE DREAM THAT YOU HAD
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  WHEN YOU WERE 15 YEARS OLD.
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  AND IT WAS AT THAT POINT THAT I UNDERSTOOD
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  IT WAS MY CALLING THEN.
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  RACHEL: WOW.
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  GREGORY: YOU KNOW, SO --
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  RACHEL: I THINK THAT'S SO ENCOURAGING, DOROTHY,
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  FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING BECAUSE IT'S LIKE
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  SOMETIMES GOD WILL PLACE THESE DREAMS AND DESIRES
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  IN OUR HEART, AND IT IS A BUMPY START.
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  GREGORY: YES, IT IS.
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  RACHEL: AND, MAN, IF WE, IF WE ALLOW THE ENEMY
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  TO DISCOURAGE US --
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  GREGORY: YES. YES.
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  RACHEL: ON THOSE BEGINNING DAYS, CAN YOU IMAGINE --
• 13:49
  GREGORY: YES.
• 13:51
  RACHEL: HOW MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED?
• 13:53
  GREGORY: YES.
• 13:54
  RACHEL: 70 CAMPUSES LATER.
• 13:57
  THIS MAN IS PREACHING THE GOSPEL AND BUILDING UP
• 14:00
  THRIVING COMMUNITIES, LITERALLY AROUND THE WORLD.
• 14:04
  DOROTHY: SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU SAID YES, YOU WERE OBEDIENT
• 14:06
  TO THE CALLING.
• 14:07
  GREGORY: YES.
• 14:08
  DOROTHY: AND SO HOW HAVE YOU BEEN INSPIRED
• 14:11
  THROUGH YOUR MINISTRY?
• 14:13
  YOU WROTE THIS AMAZING BOOK, YOU KNOW,
• 14:16
  365 DAYS SPIRITUAL WARFARE.
• 14:19
  WHAT WAS THE INSPIRATION?
• 14:21
  BECAUSE IT'S VERY SPECIFIC --
• 14:23
  I MEAN, SPIRITUAL WARFARE,
• 14:25
  WE CAN TALK ALL DAY ON THE SUBJECT.
• 14:27
  GREGORY: YEAH.
• 14:28
  DOROTHY: SO HOW DID YOU GET IT IN JUST 365 DAYS?
• 14:30
  GREGORY: AGAIN, I HAD, WOW, A RUDE AWAKENING
• 14:34
  TO SPIRITUAL WARFARE.
• 14:37
  WHEN I, I BECAME AN EVANGELIST, AS I SAID,
• 14:40
  FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS.
• 14:41
  AT SOME POINT DURING THAT TIME,
• 14:46
  I FELT THAT, YOU KNOW, I NEEDED TO GO
• 14:48
  TO PASTORAL MINISTRY.
• 14:50
  AND THE LORD KIND OF TALKED TO ME ABOUT THAT.
• 14:53
  SO, I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GO TO
• 14:58
  A BIBLE SCHOOL OR SEMINARY.
• 15:01
  SO AFTER I WAS DONE WITH MY UNDERGRADUATE DEGREE
• 15:05
  IN, YOU KNOW, IN ACCOUNTING,
• 15:07
  SO I DECIDED TO GO TO SEMINARY.
• 15:10
  YOU KNOW, I DID A, YOU KNOW, A MASTER'S DEGREE
• 15:15
  IN THEOLOGICAL STUDIES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT
• 15:17
  AND THEN IN EUROPE, ALSO DID SOME WORK IN THEOLOGY.
• 15:22
  BUT IT SO HAPPENED THAT THE SCHOOLS THAT I WENT TO
• 15:26
  WERE VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVE SCHOOLS.
• 15:30
  YOU KNOW, FROM A POINT OF VIEW THAT IS CALLED CESSATIONIST.
• 15:33
  SO A CESSATIONIST POINT OF VIEW BELIEVES THAT ALL THE,
• 15:37
  PRETTY MUCH ALL THE GIFTS HAVE STOPPED, YOU KNOW,
• 15:39
  PROPHECY NO LONGER EXISTS AND MIRACLES
• 15:42
  AND DELIVERANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, NO LONGER EXIST.
• 15:44
  SO PRETTY MUCH I WAS TRAINED IN THAT STREAM.
• 15:48
  AND I STARTED, NOW, I STARTED IN PASTORAL MINISTRY.
• 15:54
  AND ON SUNDAY MORNING, THE CHURCH HAS JUST STARTED
• 15:58
  AND I WAS PREACHING, AGAIN, EPHESIANS.
• 16:00
  I WAS PREACHING ON EPHESIANS, ON THE POWER OF GOD.
• 16:03
  YOU KNOW, EPHESIANS CHAPTER 1,
• 16:06
  THAT WE HAVE THE POWER OF GOD, ETCETERA.
• 16:08
  HE'S ENDOWED US WITH POWER.
• 16:09
  HERE I AM, I AM PREACHING.
• 16:11
  AND AS I WAS PREACHING, THERE WAS A YOUNG LADY
• 16:14
  WHO WAS SITTING IN FRONT OF ME WHILE I WAS PREACHING.
• 16:17
  SHE FELL ON THE FLOOR AND SOMETHING STARTED
• 16:20
  TO MANIFEST.
• 16:22
  NOW, SINCE I WAS BORN, YOU KNOW, IN HAITI, GREW UP,
• 16:28
  YOU KNOW, IN THE HAITIAN COMMUNITY,
• 16:29
  HAITIAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY,
• 16:31
  I KNEW IT WAS A DEMONIC SPIRIT.
• 16:33
  BUT I HAD A PROBLEM.
• 16:34
  THE PROBLEM IS THAT I WAS NOT EQUIPPED TO HANDLE
• 16:37
  THAT KIND OF SITUATION.
• 16:38
  RACHEL: OKAY. WAS IT HARD FOR YOU TO RECONCILE
• 16:40
  WHAT YOU HAD LEARNED WITH WHAT YOU WERE EXPERIENCING?
• 16:42
  GREGORY: EXACTLY.
• 16:43
  AND THE WHOLE CONGREGATION IS LOOKING AT ME.
• 16:45
  RACHEL: AND YOU'RE LIKE, WHAT DO I DO?
• 16:47
  HOW ARE WE HANDLING THIS?
• 16:48
  GREGORY: NOW, NOW, BEFORE, AS AN EVANGELIST,
• 16:51
  THE WAY THAT I WOULD HANDLE A SITUATION LIKE THIS
• 16:53
  IS, YOU KNOW, IF I'M PREACHING AT A CHURCH
• 16:56
  AND SUDDENLY THERE IS A DEMONIC MANIFESTATION,
• 16:59
  I SAY, WELL, PASTOR, IT WAS A PLEASURE
• 17:01
  TO PREACH AT YOUR CHURCH,
• 17:03
  AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HANDLE THIS SITUATION.
• 17:06
  MY MESSAGE IS DONE, AND YOU CAN HANDLE THE SITUATION.
• 17:09
  RACHEL: PASS THE BATON.
• 17:10
  GREGORY: PASS THE BATON, YOU KNOW.
• 17:12
  SO I WAS GETTING READY TO DO THE SAME THING, EXCEPT --
• 17:15
  RACHEL: YOU HAD NO ONE TO PASS TO.
• 17:16
  GREGORY: I REALIZE I'M THE PASTOR.
• 17:18
  RACHEL: I'M THE PASTOR.
• 17:18
  [ LAUGHTER ]
• 17:20
  GREGORY: SO I'M LIKE, WHAT DO I DO?
• 17:21
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• 18:01
  GREGORY: I STOPPED PREACHING, EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT ME.
• 18:03
  WE'RE HAVING THAT MANIFESTATION,
• 18:05
  AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE POWER OF GOD
• 18:08
  OVER THE FORCES OF DARKNESS.
• 18:10
  AND HERE IT IS, RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.
• 18:15
  AND SO I REMEMBERED ONE TIME I HAD,
• 18:18
  I PARTICIPATED IN A PRAYER MEETING
• 18:20
  IN SOMEBODY'S HOME,
• 18:22
  AND THERE WAS A DEMONIC MANIFESTATION.
• 18:25
  AND I REMEMBER THE PERSON SAID,
• 18:27
  IN THE NAME OF JESUS, LEAVE.
• 18:30
  SO I COULDN'T --
• 18:31
  EVERYTHING THAT I TRIED TO PULL UP FROM
• 18:33
  MY THEOLOGICAL TRAINING COULDN'T HELP ME
• 18:36
  HANDLE THE SITUATION.
• 18:37
  BUT I REMEMBERED THAT EPISODE THAT HAPPENED
• 18:40
  IN FRONT OF ME.
• 18:42
  SO I SAID, YOU KNOW, I SAID, I'M GOING TO TRY.
• 18:44
  I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO WORK, BUT I'M GONNA TRY.
• 18:47
  SO I SAID, I WALKED UP AND I SAID,
• 18:49
  IN THE NAME OF JESUS, LEAVE.
• 18:52
  AND IMMEDIATELY THE DEMON LEFT.
• 18:56
  SO IT WAS AFTER THAT, I ASKED MYSELF TWO QUESTIONS.
• 19:00
  NUMBER ONE, WHAT IS THAT THING THAT MANIFESTED?
• 19:09
  WHAT IS IT EXACTLY?
• 19:11
  I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS BECAUSE I WASN'T TAUGHT
• 19:13
  SO MUCH ABOUT THAT.
• 19:15
  NUMBER TWO, WHAT DO I HAVE IN ME
• 19:19
  THAT CAUSED THIS THING TO LEAVE IMMEDIATELY,
• 19:24
  THAT I SAID, IN THE NAME OF JESUS, LEAVE?
• 19:27
  SO THAT'S HOW I STARTED IN SPIRITUAL WARFARE.
• 19:29
  THEN I STARTED READING SOME MATERIALS.
• 19:32
  YOU KNOW, DEREK PRINCE, I STARTED READING HIS BOOK,
• 19:36
  YOU SHALL CAST OUT DEMONS, I THINK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
• 19:40
  AND I STARTED READING A LOT IN SCRIPTURES.
• 19:43
  AND THEN, SO THAT WAS THE BEGINNING.
• 19:45
  AND I STARTED LEARNING.
• 19:46
  I STARTED PRAYING A LOT AND FASTING.
• 19:48
  RACHEL: BECAUSE THIS ACTUALLY STARTED HAPPENING
• 19:50
  A LOT IN YOUR CHURCH.
• 19:52
  GREGORY: YES.
• 19:53
  AFTER THAT, THAT STARTED HAPPENING A LOT.
• 19:55
  I STARTED LEARNING AND I STARTED TEACHING
• 19:57
  ABOUT IT AS WELL.
• 20:00
  AND THEN AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW, THEN PEOPLE
• 20:02
  STARTED COMING TO ME AND SAY, PASTOR,
• 20:03
  I WAS STRUGGLING WITH THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER.
• 20:05
  THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD HAPPEN TO ME
• 20:07
  IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
• 20:09
  AND I DIDN'T KNOW, I DIDN'T, I DON'T KNOW
• 20:12
  IF ANYBODY WOULD UNDERSTAND ME,
• 20:14
  SO I NEVER TOLD ANYBODY ABOUT IT.
• 20:16
  SO THEN THAT'S WHEN WE REALIZED, MY WIFE AND I,
• 20:19
  WE REALIZED HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE DEALING WITH
• 20:22
  SPIRITUAL WARFARE ISSUES, BUT BECAUSE THEY
• 20:24
  WEREN'T SURE ANYBODY WOULD UNDERSTAND THEM,
• 20:26
  A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T SHARE THESE THINGS.
• 20:29
  DOROTHY: SO IS SPIRITUAL WARFARE,
• 20:32
  AND JUST LIKE YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE DIFFICULT TIME,
• 20:34
  IS THAT THE SAME THING?
• 20:36
  GREGORY: NO, THAT WOULDN'T BE THE SAME THING.
• 20:38
  YOU KNOW, SPIRITUAL, SPIRITUAL WARFARE
• 20:43
  IS REALLY ATTACKS THAT ARE DEMONICALLY EMPOWERED.
• 20:47
  BUT AT THE SAME TIME, EVEN IN NATURAL, WHAT WE CALL
• 20:51
  NATURAL, YOU KNOW, OCCURRENCES, YOU KNOW,
• 20:56
  PHENOMENA, SOMETIMES BEHIND THE NATURAL PHENOMENON,
• 21:00
  THERE COULD ALSO BE A DEMONIC FORCE OPERATING.
• 21:04
  SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF
• 21:07
  THAT DIMENSION.
• 21:08
  I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
• 21:10
  MY WIFE AND I, WE DECIDED DECEMBER 2012, WE DECIDED,
• 21:14
  OKAY, WE'VE BEEN RENTING FOR SEVEN YEARS NOW,
• 21:17
  ACTUALLY MORE THAN SEVEN YEARS BECAUSE WE
• 21:19
  HAD BEEN IN FLORIDA FOR THREE YEARS PRIOR.
• 21:20
  WE HAD BEEN RENTING FOR TEN YEARS.
• 21:22
  WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO NEED, WE'RE GOING
• 21:24
  TO PURCHASE A HOUSE.
• 21:26
  AND SINCE MY WIFE AND I LIKED THE HOUSE THAT
• 21:29
  WE WERE RENTING, OKAY, WE SAID,
• 21:31
  WE TALKED TO THE OWNER AND WE SAID,
• 21:33
  WE'RE GOING TO PURCHASE THAT HOUSE.
• 21:34
  WE LOVE IT VERY MUCH.
• 21:36
  YOU KNOW, IT HAS A BIG YARD,
• 21:38
  AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEEDED.
• 21:39
  WE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO PURCHASE THAT HOUSE.
• 21:42
  AND THEN WHEN WE DECIDED TO PURCHASE THE HOUSE,
• 21:45
  MY WIFE HAD A DREAM AND SHE SAW SOMEBODY WHO SAID,
• 21:50
  YOU'RE A PASTOR AND YOU'RE GOING TO BUY A HOUSE?
• 21:53
  AS IF IN A DEFIANT TONE.
• 21:55
  AND MY WIFE TOLD ME, YOU KNOW, GREG, YOU KNOW,
• 21:59
  YOU KNOW, THAT HOUSE, WE GOT TO PRAY ABOUT IT.
• 22:03
  WE GOT TO PRAY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE
• 22:06
  IT SEEMS THAT THE ENEMY WANTS TO DEFY, DEFY US.
• 22:08
  RACHEL: YEAH, SHE COULD SENSE ALREADY THIS SPIRITUAL WARFARE.
• 22:11
  GREGORY: SHE PICKED IT UP.
• 22:12
  BUT, OF COURSE, ME, MORE AS A GUY, I'M LIKE,
• 22:16
  BABY, THAT'S A PIZZA DREAM.
• 22:18
  BECAUSE I'M LIKE, I'M LIKE, BABY, LISTEN,
• 22:19
  WE GOT EVERYTHING.
• 22:20
  WE GOT ENOUGH MONEY SAVED,
• 22:23
  WE GOT GOOD CREDIT SCORES.
• 22:27
  WE ALREADY HAVE THE HOUSE,
• 22:29
  WE'RE NOT GONNA LOOK FOR A HOUSE,
• 22:30
  WE ALREADY LIVE IN THE HOUSE.
• 22:33
  THE OWNER ALREADY AGREES TO SELL US THE HOUSE.
• 22:37
  WE GOT A PREAPPROVAL LETTER FROM A BANK.
• 22:40
  I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT COULD GO WRONG?
• 22:45
  A COUPLE OF MONTHS MAXIMUM, THREE MONTHS,
• 22:48
  BUT TWO, THREE MONTHS, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE ABLE
• 22:51
  TO GET THIS DONE.
• 22:52
  AND, OF COURSE, WE STARTED IT THE FIRST MONTH,
• 22:56
  OF COURSE, EVERYTHING WAS RUNNING FINE.
• 22:57
  THE SECOND MONTH.
• 22:59
  AND THEN WE'RE AT THE THIRD MONTH, YOU KNOW,
• 23:02
  THINGS ARE NOT -- YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE BEING SLOW.
• 23:05
  SO WE GOT TO THE FOURTH MONTH.
• 23:07
  YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S ALWAYS KIND OF A,
• 23:09
  OF A PROBLEM.
• 23:10
  DOROTHY: RIGHT.
• 23:11
  GREGORY: THE FOURTH MONTH THERE WAS A PROBLEM.
• 23:12
  AND IN THE FIFTH MONTH, ANOTHER PROBLEM.
• 23:14
  AND SIX MONTHS LATER, WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH ISSUES.
• 23:17
  YOU KNOW, VARIOUS, VARIOUS ISSUES.
• 23:19
  SEVENTH MONTH, SOMETIMES IT'S THE CITY.
• 23:21
  SOMETIMES IT'S THIS, SOMETIMES IT'S THAT.
• 23:23
  BUT EVERY MONTH THERE'S A DIFFERENT PROBLEM
• 23:26
  INDEPENDENT OF US.
• 23:28
  SEVENTH MONTH, EIGHTH MONTH, NINE MONTHS,
• 23:30
  12 MONTHS LATER.
• 23:31
  RACHEL: WOW.
• 23:33
  GREGORY: A YEAR LATER, WE STILL HAVEN'T PURCHASED THAT HOUSE,
• 23:35
  THE GUY ASKED US TO COME AND SIGN THE CONTRACT.
• 23:37
  WE SAID, FINALLY, WE'RE GOING TO SIGN THIS THING,
• 23:39
  A YEAR LATER.
• 23:42
  HE ASKED US TO COME AND SIGN THE CONTRACT TO DO THE CLOSING.
• 23:45
  AND THE DAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THE CLOSING
• 23:47
  AT A LAWYER'S OFFICE,
• 23:48
  HE SAID HE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, HE CAN'T GO.
• 23:50
  HE SAID, WHY DON'T YOU GO TO STARBUCKS?
• 23:52
  WE'LL MEET AT A STARBUCKS AND SAID, OKAY, NO PROBLEM.
• 23:54
  WE'LL DO IT AT STARBUCKS.
• 23:56
  WE DROVE TO A STARBUCKS TO SIGN THE CONTRACT.
• 23:58
  WHEN WE GOT THERE, HE WASN'T THERE.
• 24:00
  HE SAID, WELL, STARBUCKS DOESN'T WORK FOR ME.
• 24:02
  WHY DON'T YOU COME TO MY, YOU KNOW, MY BUILDING,
• 24:05
  MY PLACE, AND YOU'LL SIGN IT.
• 24:07
  OKAY. WE SAID, AT THE LOBBY,
• 24:09
  WE'LL SIT DOWN AT THE LOBBY.
• 24:10
  OKAY.
• 24:11
  WE ARE SO DESPERATE AFTER A YEAR.
• 24:13
  WE SAID, OKAY, WELL, WE'LL GO TO THE LOBBY.
• 24:15
  OKAY. WE WENT TO THE LOBBY OF HIS APARTMENT
• 24:17
  AND, AGAIN, WE'RE SHOWING, WE SHOWED UP.
• 24:21
  THE GUY IS NOT THERE.
• 24:22
  WE CALL HIM.
• 24:23
  WHEN WE CALL HIM, HE SAID,
• 24:24
  WELL, I CAN'T COME DOWN.
• 24:25
  I WANT YOU TO GO --
• 24:26
  WHY DON'T YOU COME IN, YOU KNOW, TO MY APARTMENT,
• 24:29
  COME UP TO MY APARTMENT AND SIGN THE CONTRACT.
• 24:31
  I'M LIKE, SIR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING
• 24:34
  A BUSINESS TRANSACTION.
• 24:35
  I DON'T KNOW YOU.
• 24:36
  HOW CAN I GO TO YOUR APARTMENT TO DO
• 24:38
  A BUSINESS TRANSACTION?
• 24:40
  I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S --
• 24:41
  IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
• 24:43
  WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO DOWN, COME DOWN IN THE LOBBY.
• 24:45
  WE'RE THERE IN THE LOBBY.
• 24:45
  WE'LL JUST SIGN THE CONTRACT.
• 24:47
  THE MAN WAS SO MAD BECAUSE WE DIDN'T AGREE
• 24:50
  TO GO UP TO HIS APARTMENT.
• 24:53
  HE CAME DOWN, WALKED BY US, HE SAW US.
• 24:57
  HE WALKED BY US AND TOOK A PLANE TO ARGENTINA,
• 25:03
  AND THIS CONTRACT WASN'T SIGNED.
• 25:05
  AT THAT POINT. I SAID, BABY, TELL ME ABOUT THE DREAM.
• 25:08
  [ LAUGHTER ]
• 25:11
  GREGORY: TELL ME ABOUT THE DREAM THAT YOU HAD AGAIN.
• 25:12
  DOROTHY: GOD WAS TRYING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.
• 25:14
  GREGORY: I SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT NORMAL.
• 25:15
  SO WE WENT INTO A THREE-DAY FAST, YOU KNOW,
• 25:19
  BEGINNING OF JANUARY 2013.
• 25:22
  YOU KNOW, WE FELT IN OUR SPIRIT, YOU KNOW,
• 25:24
  WE STARTED TO EXPERIENCE A BREAKTHROUGH,
• 25:28
  BUT, STILL, THAT WASN'T IT.
• 25:30
  A YEAR AND ONE MONTH, A YEAR AND TWO MONTHS,
• 25:33
  A YEAR AND THREE MONTHS.
• 25:34
  WHEN WE GOT TO, LIKE, MARCH 2014,
• 25:40
  A YEAR AND THREE MONTHS LATER,
• 25:42
  WE STILL CAN'T DO THAT CLOSING.
• 25:47
  YOU KNOW, I FELT I NEEDED TO GO ON A 21-DAY FAST.
• 25:50
  SO I WENT ON A 21-DAY FAST, PARTICULARLY FOR THAT.
• 25:54
  I HAD ALREADY DONE A THREE-DAY FAST,
• 25:57
  AND I WENT ON A 21-DAY FAST.
• 25:59
  AND ON THE, ON THE LAST DAY OF THE 21ST DAY
• 26:04
  OF PRAYER AND FASTING,
• 26:05
  AND ON THE LAST DAY, I HAD A DREAM THAT I WALKED
• 26:08
  INTO THE HOUSE AND I SAID, OUT!
• 26:10
  THE MOMENT THAT I SAID OUT, I SAW A BUNCH OF LITTLE RATS,
• 26:14
  RATS RUNNING IN ALL DIRECTIONS.
• 26:17
  NOW IN SCRIPTURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT RATS
• 26:21
  ARE OFTEN CONNECTED WITH DESTRUCTION AND POVERTY.
• 26:25
  YOU KNOW, 1 SAMUEL 5:6, YOU KNOW,
• 26:27
  IT'S CONNECTED WITH DESTRUCTION AND POVERTY.
• 26:30
  SO I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS, IT WAS A SPIRIT OF POVERTY
• 26:34
  THAT WAS OPPOSING US.
• 26:36
  AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE LORD GAVE US VICTORY
• 26:38
  ON THAT DAY.
• 26:39
  IT WAS RESURRECTION SUNDAY.
• 26:41
  THREE DAYS LATER, THE CONTRACT THAT WE COULDN'T SIGN
• 26:45
  FOR 15 MONTHS, WAS SIGNED THREE DAYS LATER.
• 26:50
  BUT I SAY THIS TO SAY, THE ENCOUNTERS,
• 26:54
  I WAS JUST INTERPRETING THEM AS, YOU KNOW,
• 26:56
  NORMAL, IT'S JUST THE CITY'S JUST THIS,
• 26:59
  IT'S JUST THAT.
• 27:01
  AND, YOU KNOW, AND FOR 15 MONTHS, I DIDN'T
• 27:02
  VIEW IT FROM A SPIRITUAL PERSPECTIVE.
• 27:05
  AND FOR 15 MONTHS, REALLY, OR I GUESS FOR
• 27:07
  12 MONTHS, I REALLY DID NOT LOOK AT IT
• 27:09
  FROM A SPIRITUAL PERSPECTIVE.
• 27:11
  AND I DIDN'T ADDRESS IT FROM A SPIRITUAL PERSPECTIVE.
• 27:13
  I WAS JUST DOING THE NATURAL STUFF.
• 27:15
  SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO THE NATURAL STUFF.
• 27:18
  YOU KNOW, I NEEDED TO GET MY CREDIT RIGHT.
• 27:20
  I NEEDED TO HAVE THE RIGHT DEPOSIT.
• 27:22
  I NEEDED, ALL THE NATURAL STUFF I NEEDED TO DO.
• 27:24
  BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I NEEDED TO PAY ATTENTION
• 27:26
  TO THE SPIRITUAL DIMENSION OF THINGS.
• 27:28
  AND MY WIFE UNDERSTOOD THAT FROM THE BEGINNING,
• 27:31
  BUT IT TOOK ME 15 MONTHS TO GET TO THAT.
• 27:33
  RACHEL: WOW.
• 27:34
  SO WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS, MEN, LISTEN TO YOUR WIFE.
• 27:37
  [ LAUGHTER ]
• 27:39
  GREGORY: EXACTLY.
• 27:40
  RACHEL: NO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT
• 27:42
  BECAUSE I THINK, ESPECIALLY HERE IN AMERICA,
• 27:44
  A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE EXPERIENCING
• 27:46
  SPIRITUAL WARFARE AND WE'RE UNAWARE.
• 27:48
  GREGORY: YEAH.
• 27:50
  RACHEL: AND SPIRITUAL ISSUES REQUIRE SPIRITUAL SOLUTIONS.
• 27:53
  GREGORY: EXACTLY.
• 27:54
  RACHEL: WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO SOMEONE
• 27:56
  AND THEY'RE LIKE, MAN, THAT'S MY STORY.
• 27:59
  BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT THING, DIFFERENT SITUATION.
• 28:01
  BUT I'M JUST, I FEEL LIKE I'M CONSTANTLY
• 28:04
  RUNNING INTO ROADBLOCKS AND I CAN'T FIND ANY VICTORY
• 28:07
  OR ANY BREAKTHROUGH IN THE SITUATION I'M GOING THROUGH.
• 28:09
  WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO ENCOURAGE THEM?
• 28:11
  GREGORY: I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY, YOU KNOW,
• 28:15
  SPEND TIME IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD.
• 28:18
  GO INTO AN EXTENDED TIME OF PRAYER,
• 28:22
  AND DO NOT GIVE UP.
• 28:24
  YOU KNOW, WE WENT INTO THAT 72-HOUR PRAYER.
• 28:27
  WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SOLUTION.
• 28:28
  WE WENT INTO A 21-DAY FAST.
• 28:30
  AND IT WAS IN THAT 21-DAY FAST,
• 28:33
  OF FASTING AND PRAYER, THAT THE LORD GAVE US THE SOLUTION.
• 28:35
  DO NOT GIVE UP.
• 28:37
  FOCUS IN PRAYER. GOD IS FAITHFUL.
• 28:39
  RACHEL: AMEN.
• 28:40
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