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The High-Frequency Healing Method for Holistic Entrepreneurs with Cortney Martinelli| Holistic Pharmacist Podcast · Pharmacy Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: You are listening to the global network of podcasters dedicated
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  Speaker 1: to the pharmacy profession. Welcome to the Pharmacy podcast Network.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the Holistic Pharmacy Podcast. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 2: Marina books Of and I'm a functional medicine pharmacist in
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  Speaker 2: New York. I'm also a clinical herbalist and an integrative
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  Speaker 2: health coach specializing in mindfulness and empowerment. I'm on a
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  Speaker 2: mission to transform the way we approach healthcare by bridging
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  Speaker 2: the wisdom of traditional medicine with modern practice, and in
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  Speaker 2: this podcast, I will be highlighting guests who do just that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm constantly inspired by them and I know you will
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  Speaker 2: be as well.
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  Speaker 3: Hello everybody, Welcome back to Holistic Pharmacy Podcast. I have
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  Speaker 3: another amazing guest in store for you today. Her name
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  Speaker 3: is Courtney Martinelli and she's a powerhouse in the personal
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  Speaker 3: growth and business healing space, known for merging deep, energetic
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  Speaker 3: mastery with practical business strategy. As the founder of Shine
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  Speaker 3: and nationally recognized wellness and education center and Spark three,
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  Speaker 3: and nonprofit dedicated to empowerment, Courtney has helped thousands of
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  Speaker 3: individuals and.
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  Speaker 4: Entrepreneurs unlock their true potential.
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  Speaker 3: She's taught hundreds of people how to turn their side
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  Speaker 3: hustle into successful, thriving businesses and has helped scale businesses
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  Speaker 3: to six and seven figures with her proven frameworks. So,
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  Speaker 3: without further ado, Courtney, welcome, Welcome, Welcome. I'd love to
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  Speaker 3: start with your origin story, how this all came together,
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  Speaker 3: how it was growing up, where you grew up, were
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  Speaker 3: you based?
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  Speaker 4: Now tell me everything.
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  Speaker 5: Oh well, first of all, thank you so much for
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  Speaker 5: having I love being here with you and your listeners,
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  Speaker 5: and you give me like a brief overview of you know,
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  Speaker 5: the amazing community that you have. So I'm just grateful
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  Speaker 5: to be here, So thank you for having me. So
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  Speaker 5: I'll start. I'll start by saying that you know, for
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  Speaker 5: over thirty years, I was living in a nightmare. So
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  Speaker 5: every morning I woke up trapped in this cycle of
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  Speaker 5: like panic attacks and constant anxiety. And I'm wondering if
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  Speaker 5: some of your listeners have experienced something similar, right, So
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  Speaker 5: I went to doctor after doctor, and all they really
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  Speaker 5: wanted to do was put a label on me and
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  Speaker 5: handing a prescription. So for years, years, decades, I resisted,
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  Speaker 5: and I tried every supplement and natural fix and I'd
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  Speaker 5: to be honest, I didn't know what I was doing right,
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  Speaker 5: but I finally caved and that's when it went from
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  Speaker 5: bad to terrifying, and I ended up in the emergency
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  Speaker 5: room after a dangerous interaction between a supplement and a
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  Speaker 5: prescribed medication. And so, as a healer, I know you
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  Speaker 5: understand my struggle out there, right because you've done this
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  Speaker 5: deep work, You've faced the wall of conventional advice, and
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  Speaker 5: you know how isolating that anxiety can be.
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  Speaker 6: Is you feel me because you've.
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  Speaker 5: Probably been me right, So, after getting out of the hospital,
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  Speaker 5: which is one of the lowest points of my entire life,
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  Speaker 5: I had this oh my gosh moment. I was determined
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  Speaker 5: to figure this out for good. So I dove into
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  Speaker 5: working with a reiki master and that's really where it
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  Speaker 5: all started, and I began to truly understand energy, vibration,
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  Speaker 5: how to finally regulate my body after decades of living
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  Speaker 5: in fight or flight. And honestly, I'm an introvert, but
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  Speaker 5: I felt called to share this with anyone.
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  Speaker 6: Who would listen to me.
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  Speaker 5: And this was about fifteen years ago, and at first
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  Speaker 5: I felt like an absolute fraud, a total impostor.
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  Speaker 6: I was just trying to heal myself.
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  Speaker 5: I was a total mess, right, and I heard this
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  Speaker 5: voice in my head. I know some of you have
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  Speaker 5: heard this voice in your head too. You are an
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  Speaker 5: impostor what are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 5: But I moved forward anyways because I made a promise
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  Speaker 5: to myself, and I know some of your listeners out
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  Speaker 5: there probably made a similar promise to themselves.
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  Speaker 4: And what I.
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  Speaker 5: Started noticing is the magic happened when I started working
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  Speaker 5: with others and channeling energy to them. The healing effects
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  Speaker 5: on me were exponentially more powerful. So eventually, after years
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  Speaker 5: of experimenting and working with thousands of clients, like a.
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  Speaker 6: True system emerged.
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  Speaker 5: So I owed an education and retreat center in Ohio.
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  Speaker 5: I was like telling you about that earlier, and we
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  Speaker 5: have twenty three different modalities and certifications.
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  Speaker 6: And I realized the answer wasn't just one thing.
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  Speaker 5: It was a specific sequence, like a five part formula,
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  Speaker 5: and it delivered reliable results, at least for me and
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  Speaker 5: my clients for years and years and years.
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  Speaker 6: So when I consistently.
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  Speaker 5: Used these five steps, I noticed that lives dramatically shifted.
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  Speaker 5: So now I've taught this technique for over five years,
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  Speaker 5: and I watched my students go from being healed to
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  Speaker 5: becoming an assault after healer, because that's I love that journey,
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  Speaker 5: going from heal to healer. That's truly what I have
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  Speaker 5: helped people do over the last fifteen years.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, what an amazing journey. And I want to just
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  Speaker 3: pause and reflect back that it takes awareness to even
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  Speaker 3: seek help for the constant anxiety and dread and overwhelm.
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  Speaker 3: And I think a lot of us have internalized it
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  Speaker 3: and accepted it as normal for so long that some
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  Speaker 3: people don't even realize that they may be in this
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  Speaker 3: constant fight or flight and survival mode and they just
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  Speaker 3: may take it for granted. So I just kudas to
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  Speaker 3: you to seeking help for that and recognizing that this
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  Speaker 3: is not how it's supposed to be.
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  Speaker 6: I love Oh.
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  Speaker 5: I literally have tingles when you say that, because it's
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  Speaker 5: so funny. What I al would always say is, for
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  Speaker 5: the first thirty years of my life, I didn't realize
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  Speaker 5: that that's not how everybody lived. It was like a
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  Speaker 5: fish in water, right, Like you're just a fish in water,
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  Speaker 5: and so you think everybody.
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  Speaker 6: But then actually the.
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  Speaker 5: Turning point for me was when I was got pregnant
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  Speaker 5: with my son. I don't know what happened, but something
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  Speaker 5: shift within me and I felt peace for the first
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  Speaker 5: time in my life. And I was like, oh, wait,
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  Speaker 5: you mean that anxiety that I felt for decades.
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  Speaker 6: That's not normal. So thank you for saying that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think any acknowledgment to anyone who's listening to
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  Speaker 5: this that you don't have to live in a place
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  Speaker 5: of survival mode, like you can truly survive, I mean
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  Speaker 5: bribe and I found a way to do that for
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  Speaker 5: myself and then share that with others.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I really appreciate your story because it really
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  Speaker 3: reflects the giving and the receiving dynamics, right you, by
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  Speaker 3: giving your service to others, you were able to receive
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  Speaker 3: the healing and vice versa. When you practiced healing yourself,
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  Speaker 3: you were able to give that much more back. So
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  Speaker 3: it's like this constant cycle that grows in on itself,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of us are holding ourselves back from
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  Speaker 3: entering freely into the both or either spectrum.
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  Speaker 4: So I just wanted to acknowledge that as well.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, you know, that's actually the biggest misconception. I wrote
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  Speaker 5: a book it was called Lovery Key Vibration about eight
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  Speaker 5: years ago, and I had an energy magazine contact me
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  Speaker 5: because they said it was like one of the missing
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  Speaker 5: pieces of reiki. Because I have heard so much any
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  Speaker 5: people say to me an energy work.
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  Speaker 6: It's like, oh, but don't you.
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  Speaker 5: Feel exhausted after this? And when you're channeling this energy,
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  Speaker 5: I always tell my students it's exponentially more powerful for you.
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  Speaker 5: That's actually the true secret of how I healed myself
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  Speaker 5: is that as I was working with other people, I
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  Speaker 5: healed because I think at some point you come to
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  Speaker 5: this realization as a true healer, that you can't heal
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  Speaker 5: anyone else except yourself, and what you're really doing is
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  Speaker 5: creating a space that sues I call it a suage people.
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  Speaker 5: And when you create this space of where you're assuaging people,
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  Speaker 5: then they can actually, you know, their.
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  Speaker 6: Vibration can raise and they can heal themselves.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think there's this concept of when healers
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  Speaker 3: tap into this universe, limitless well of unconditional love or divinity.
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  Speaker 3: That's not just a metaphor, right, It's like, if we're
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  Speaker 3: feeling exhausted, then we may be maybe unknowingly channeling our
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  Speaker 3: own energy and not actually like allowing it to flow
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  Speaker 3: from this infinite well and healers. There's like this hollow
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  Speaker 3: bone concept where we just allow it to pass through.
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  Speaker 3: And this is a byproduct literally, like a side effect
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  Speaker 3: of us channeling is that we also heal ourselves.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you get it, girl, you get it. Yeah for
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  Speaker 5: one hundred percent. You know, there's all kinds of like
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  Speaker 5: little hacks that I did. When I was first learning this,
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  Speaker 5: I started to realize, like when I would work with
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  Speaker 5: a client early in the morning, then it would set
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  Speaker 5: my day up for like perfection.
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  Speaker 6: And it's because.
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  Speaker 5: As you know, as I was assisting somebody else on
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  Speaker 5: their healing journey, it just lifted me up so much.
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  Speaker 5: And it's I love remembering back to that because anytime
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  Speaker 5: I am off or not feeling well, it's like.
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  Speaker 6: I think our natural tendency is to like pull back
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  Speaker 6: and pull in.
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  Speaker 5: Like I've had so many students tell me, like, I
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  Speaker 5: feel like a fraud. I don't want to come and
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  Speaker 5: provide assists at this workshop because I'm feeling off, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, no, you're missing the point. It's like that's
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  Speaker 5: how you can come back into alignment. You do not
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  Speaker 5: have you know, there's reverence for the practice, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and I teach people how to like center themselves and
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  Speaker 5: create that into it's a lifestyle, right, But it's okay
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  Speaker 5: to be off and then come center yourself and give
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  Speaker 5: freely to other people.
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  Speaker 6: Like I mean, that's how you heal, That's how you heal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree. And I noticed it within myself
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  Speaker 3: as well, Like this rejection of one's own challenges or
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  Speaker 3: we can call them shadow parts or dark or negativity,
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  Speaker 3: negative mindset type of things that kind of holds us
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  Speaker 3: back or self sabotage or just exhaustion on a physical level,
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  Speaker 3: and we sort of tend to judge and minimize that
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  Speaker 3: and not show those weaknesses so to speak to others.
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  Speaker 3: And we think that it makes us a fraud or
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  Speaker 3: an imposter, or that we can never be successful or
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  Speaker 3: healer or heal ourselves, and like it just plants a
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  Speaker 3: lot of seeds of doubt. And the reality is that
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  Speaker 3: we are all a mixed bag of these white and
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  Speaker 3: shadow parts, and just by existing here in this three D.
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  Speaker 4: Reality, it's we have to go through it.
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  Speaker 3: And if we didn't have to go through it, we
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  Speaker 3: would not be able to relate to other people that
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  Speaker 3: are going through it. So this is the work like
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  Speaker 3: you have to do it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's one hundred percent true, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Just working with so many, so many healers over the
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  Speaker 5: last fifteen years, I've noticed a couple of different things.
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  Speaker 6: Like one of the things I've noticed is that.
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  Speaker 5: Basically people are hiding and or waiting for permission, right
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  Speaker 5: because of that imposter syndrome.
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  Speaker 6: And everyone has such a unique light.
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  Speaker 5: And just like if you thought about the person who
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  Speaker 5: had changed your life the most, whether they were a
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  Speaker 5: teacher or a healer, they at one point in time
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  Speaker 5: were in that same you know, same things, and if
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  Speaker 5: they didn't step forward, that would be such a shame, right.
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  Speaker 5: I think the other thing that I noticed, and healer's
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  Speaker 5: two other things is one is people healers don't charge enough.
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  Speaker 5: They don't charge enough, and it's like they don't realize
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  Speaker 5: that charging low prices actually just creates this function in
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  Speaker 5: your clients or your students. Like, so if I could
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  Speaker 5: set you free on anything, if you're listening to this,
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  Speaker 5: I want to set you free that the more you charge,
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  Speaker 5: the more they'll actually transform. Like I love the quote
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  Speaker 5: that says the transformation is in the transaction, and that
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  Speaker 5: has been.
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  Speaker 6: Such a powerful shift in my business. Okay, So, like I.
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  Speaker 5: Teach people how to create premium offers as healers and
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  Speaker 5: set that in the center of their business. Because like
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  Speaker 5: the statistics, I mean, I don't know how far you
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  Speaker 5: want to go into the statistics. Let me just throw
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  Speaker 5: out a couple things because I think it's fun. First
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  Speaker 5: of all, nowadays people consume eighty percent of their waking hours.
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  Speaker 5: It's consumption. But the truth is, and the reason why
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  Speaker 5: I point that out is that it's what it's doing
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  Speaker 5: with that eighty percent consumption is creating a society.
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  Speaker 6: Where we don't implement, we just consume, right.
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  Speaker 5: And so the stats are that if you have a
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  Speaker 5: program that's four weeks long, ninety four percent of the
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  Speaker 5: people will not finish it.
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  Speaker 6: That means only six people get the result.
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  Speaker 5: And that's very thurtning to me because I am not
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  Speaker 5: just in it for the income. I'm in it for
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  Speaker 5: the impact and the influence. I want to make a difference.
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  Speaker 5: I want to change people's lives, like my life has
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  Speaker 5: been changed. And so if you're only serving at the
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  Speaker 5: end six percent or six people out of one hundred,
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  Speaker 5: then you're really not having the impact you need.
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  Speaker 6: And the only.
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  Speaker 5: Thing that changes these stats. Is when you're offering a
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  Speaker 5: high ticket offer or a premium offer, so you're putting
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  Speaker 5: a higher value because your price denotes value, whether you
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  Speaker 5: know it or not. So I think that's the other
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  Speaker 5: thing that people healers in particular other people like because
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  Speaker 5: sometimes I'll say to my students, this will set you free.
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  Speaker 5: Your A business is about making money, right, It's not
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  Speaker 5: a hobby.
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  Speaker 6: It's not a hobby.
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  Speaker 5: And like, if you can't like fully step into that,
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  Speaker 5: you know you're going to you're going to.
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  Speaker 6: Burden yourself out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I completely agree.
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  Speaker 4: The Christ's point really.
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  Speaker 3: Communicates a specific value, even if it's perceived value. It's
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  Speaker 3: very important to hold that tension for a person and
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  Speaker 3: the container so they can go and step in and
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  Speaker 3: commit to themselves and this is just a representation of
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  Speaker 3: their intentionality and their work ethic. So I have found
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  Speaker 3: the same in my business that when you hold somebody
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  Speaker 3: to that level of tension, it's actually caring for them
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  Speaker 3: enough so they can believe in themselves and invest in
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  Speaker 3: themselves in order to follow through, because that's the biggest
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  Speaker 3: block to like following the steps and trusting the process.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't know you maybe have a
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  Speaker 5: similar story. But I remember the very first time I
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  Speaker 5: invested in like a in a premium like coaching consulting container,
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  Speaker 5: and it was twenty five thousand dollars. And up until
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  Speaker 5: that point, like I might have only spent hundreds, not
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  Speaker 5: even a thousand, and here I am spending twenty five thousand.
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  Speaker 5: And the coolest thing of what I realized when I
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  Speaker 5: did that is that like I was investing that twenty
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  Speaker 5: five in me, not in the coach, Like this is
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  Speaker 5: about when you invest. I think that's one of the
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  Speaker 5: other things that new entrepreneurs don't understand is that when
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  Speaker 5: you invest in yourself, you're almost like telling the universe
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  Speaker 5: like I'm serious, like I'm ready, Like I didn't invest
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  Speaker 5: that twenty five thousand dollars in that coach. I invested
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  Speaker 5: that twenty five thousand in me. And after I did that,
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  Speaker 5: like my whole my whole life changed. My entire life changed.
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  Speaker 5: And so I would say also to anybody listening that like,
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  Speaker 5: invest in yourself. Invest like when you when you're sc changes,
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  Speaker 5: your circumstances change. So I know, like if they're listening
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  Speaker 5: to this podcast and they're part of your community, you
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  Speaker 5: know they found a tribe where they feel valued, and
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  Speaker 5: I think that's like one of the biggest things you
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  Speaker 5: can do as a new entrepreneur.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I want to go back to something that
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  Speaker 3: you shared in your journey about having that supplement and
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  Speaker 3: drug interaction. And as a pharmacist and an herbalist myself
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  Speaker 3: and I know a lot of the listeners are as
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  Speaker 3: well familiar with drug urb interactions or drug drug interactions.
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  Speaker 3: It's sort of like this topic that in mainstream is
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  Speaker 3: sort of normal because this is the type of medicine
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  Speaker 3: that we practice, the pill for every ill, and even
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  Speaker 3: the nutraceutical or the herbal industry can be pharmaceutical adjacent
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  Speaker 3: if that's the way that somebody just treats symptoms or
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  Speaker 3: patterns with additional supplements. And so I want to ask
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  Speaker 3: you from that experience, and you be coming from healed
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  Speaker 3: to healer, right, like, what are your biggest takeaways about
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  Speaker 3: you mentioned the five step process.
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  Speaker 4: What should we be looking at?
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  Speaker 3: What are we missing in mainstream or even some alternative practices.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I would love to share my five step program.
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  Speaker 5: But before I do, you know, when I knew I
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  Speaker 5: was going to share my origin story, I thought it
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  Speaker 5: was just going to be even more powerful to have
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  Speaker 5: that conversation with you because of your background and what
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  Speaker 5: had happened to me. I'll just dive in a little
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  Speaker 5: bit more because it might be interesting for your group
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  Speaker 5: when I don't normally dive in more to it. So
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  Speaker 5: what had happened was I was taking different herbal medicines,
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  Speaker 5: and like I said, I was a mess. I didn't
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  Speaker 5: know what I was doing and I was not under
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  Speaker 5: any care because every time I went to the doctor,
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  Speaker 5: they just try to prescribe me medicine.
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  Speaker 6: So I ended up taking this one supplement.
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  Speaker 5: It was called Daba or Gabba Gava neurotransmitter.
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  Speaker 6: And I was taking that. I actually found some relief
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  Speaker 6: from the anxiety taking that.
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  Speaker 5: And then what had happened was I then was prescribed Seraphim,
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  Speaker 5: which I didn't realize at the time was a was
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  Speaker 5: an antidepressant which I kept telling me doctor I didn't want,
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  Speaker 5: but eventually I took it.
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  Speaker 6: She told me it wasn't at present.
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  Speaker 5: I won't get into that, but what had happened is
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  Speaker 5: it interacted and it caused serotonin syndrome and they actually
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  Speaker 5: admitted me into the psychiatric ward because they were very
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  Speaker 5: concerned for my safety and only released me. I was
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  Speaker 5: only in there for less than twenty four hours. They
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  Speaker 5: only released me. Nothing had ever happened to me like
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  Speaker 5: this before. They only released me because they had realized
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  Speaker 5: that it was an interaction in the medicine that was
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: causing me to react that way and set me home
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: only under the direction of a family member watching me
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: twenty four by seven And it took me about five
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: or six weeks to self regulate. But really it took
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: years for me to get past that feeling. Like I
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: remembered the smell in the air, the you know, all
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: of those things would bring me back to that moment
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: when I had that serotonin syndrome. So yeah, So I
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: don't know if you wanted to come out of that
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: before I jumped into the five steps.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I just wanted to clarify. Is it Sarah
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Quell that you were taking?
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: You know, I think it was called Sarah Finn.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm familiar with that one, Okay, that's all right. Yeah,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: And again, this was like fifteen years ago, and maybe
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: it was a brand name.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, you know, I don't.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: Know exactly what it was, but it was just another
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: name for I think you know prozac or if yeah
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: got it?
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And my commentary is never.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: About, like you know, about taking medicine or not taking medicine.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: I just share my story of what happened to me,
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, not as like what other
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: people should do, but.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know the five steles of jump
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: in and say I completely agree with the medication. Like
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: sometimes acute medications administered properly and appropriately for a limited
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: amount of time save lives.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: And I love I appreciate.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Being alive in this time where we can access those
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: pretty readily. And I'm also off the mindset that if
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: that's the only option that you're being given for like
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: not in acute case scenario for a chronic condition, that's
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: just not true.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: There are always other options. Yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: I love that you you know, you like framed it
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: as the cute versus chronic because that's what I talk about,
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Like I always say, like, you know, when my son
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: broke his ankle, like I didn't just like perform energy
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: energy work on his ankle, Like I took him to
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: a doctor. You know, they reset his bone and you
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: know the cast was put on. So yeah, I love
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: that you've shared that, so thank you. You know, the
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: five steps that I realized after fifty teen years of
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: like what works, and I've probably tried every different energy modality,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: and I've noticed that different people resonate with different things,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: and I think that's great.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: The five things that I really like. So the first
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: step is.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: Like just this whole concept of charging yourselves or raising
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: your vibration. There's different ways to say it, and I
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: won't go fully into this, but I've done extensive study
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: with this man. His name's Bruce Tannio, and he did
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: work out of Eastern State University.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: He's no longer with us, and.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Basically what he said was and there's all different kinds
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: of studies about raising your vibration and charging yourselves.
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: This one's my favorite.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: That a human healthy body vibrates between sixty two and
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: seventy two megahurtz per second. And so if you're vibrating
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: within that range, disease and harmful micro organisms cannot survive
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: or thrive in your body. And you know, because of
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: what happened to me fifteen years ago, I.
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: Have dedicated my life to living lifestyle.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: Choices that raise their vibration and That's why I always
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: say nothing in life is neutral. Everything is either raising
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: your vibration or lowering your vibration. So I think foundationally
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: what I teach my students is.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: Charge yourselves, raise your vibration.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: And there are now frequency devices that can do that
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: in the background, you know, like the biohacking. For fifteen years,
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: I didn't rely on any biohacking or any you know
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: devices because they weren't readily available to raise my my
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: vibration or charge my cells. But now you know there
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: are those out there. So you either need to do
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: it with a biohacking device or you need to live
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: like ronic, consistent, deliberate lifestyle choices. And I know I'm
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: preaching to acquire out here. So number one is charging yourselves.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Number two is dropping the brain states. And you had
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: already mentioned it, like living in fight or flight or
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: survival mode has been so normalized, and the stats you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: if you if you know about doctor Joe Despendo, which
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: I know people do, like seventy percent of the time,
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: the average person is in this high beta state, which
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: is fight or flight.
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: So like, how can we drop the brain states?
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: And you could even just drop it into lower mid beta.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: It doesn't even have to be alpha or veta, you know.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: But so that's what I train my students and then
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: my healers to do that. Then the third step is
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: dislodging the trauma.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: That's with sword within your body.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: And you know, I've studied under eilaen me Cusick, who
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: is like one of the leading edge and tuning forks
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: in sound therapy, and we literally are carrying this trauma
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: trapped in our body and we need to we need
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: to you know, dislodge it and then circulate it, circulate
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: it so we can better what is the worst I
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: want to say, have a better relationship with the trauma, right,
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: And so that's step three, and then four is a
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: suage and soothe and that's through channeled energy. And a
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: lot of people are familiar with reiki and I am
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: a reiki master and have taught reiki for fifteen years,
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: but the channel energy that I use with my students
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: is called zamjay and it's very similar to reiki.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: And then the last of is.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Transmissions, like teaching my students' transmissions that they can give
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: to their clients to help further raise the vibrations specific
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: to them. So yeah, the framework that I use is
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: just relying on the modalities that have I've seen the
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: most changes over the last fifteen years working with thousands
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: of clients.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Wow, amazing.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I am so impressed that you have built this system
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: that you've tried and tested and done your research and
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: worked with the leading exports in these fields. And honestly,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: as long as somebody has a comprehensive system and they
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: know it works, it doesn't have to be you know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: one framework versus another. They're all frameworks and they probably
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: all tackle similar things. And the order of events, I
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: would say, matters. So we want to you know, focus
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: on the priorities and what's going to really inhibit or
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: continue to sabotage somebody. We want to focus on those
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: things first usually, and then like add in layer and
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: layer and layers. So it sounds like your system does
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: that and addresses like the bottom of the pyramid, right,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: and then you just keep on as stending up.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: I love that, and I love that you even say that,
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: because you know, when I look at min journey, I
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: didn't have.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: A framework. I was just trying to like live.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: To the next day, right, and so I was like
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: figuring it out all on my own, and it took
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: me years and years.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: And so I do.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of healers out there that
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: have done their own little studies right and tested out
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: what has worked for them, And God bless anyone doing
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: that and sharing it, because you know, in my Education
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: and Wellness retreat that I have in Ohio, you know,
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: we have.
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: Two hundred and fifty events a year.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: We have thousands of people that come into our space,
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: and they are literally looking for the map, right, They're
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: looking Here's what they're looking for.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: They're looking to compress time.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: Like they don't want to take fifteen years like I
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: did to heal themselves. They want to say, how can
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: I heal myself? How can I do the work in
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: a proven system? And I think that's what reiki was
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: for me initially, and then I also started to realize,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: first of all, like reiky saved my life.
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: So like, please do.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Not misinterpret this as like, you know, talking bad about
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: reiki changed my life. But it was also created in
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: eighteen sixty two and has like everything evolves, right, and
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: so there has to be an evolution for us as
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: human beings of what can really make.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: The biggest difference.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: Like, I like to be on the leading edge and
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: continue to be on the leading edge of what is
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: working well for people, so that I can't compress time.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear you on that.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: And right now and the time that we're living in,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: we have a lot of factors to contend with that
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: are working against us. Unfortunately, you even mentioned it, the
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: eighty percent consumption, and that goes for everything. Right when
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: we are just pulled in a million different directions and
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: we have all this technology and screen time and all
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: these distractions that really distract us from what we're doing here,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: what we are here to do, and also our healing
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: journey and also our impact and cultivating or creating something
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: for ourselves.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Right, So, when we're stuck in.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: That mode and then we have all the other toxins
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: and environmental issues and the societal issues and political issues,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: it creates a lot of layers that we're.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Actually going to have to go through.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: And so we need to continue to advance and evolve
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: systems and make them more comprehensive, and again follow a
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: specific sequence. So I love that you've identified these five
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: important steps, and I'm curious if I can ask you
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: a couple of follow.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Up questions on them.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just like say, just in an analogy that
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: you made me think of, and then you can ask
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: me whatever questions you want.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: What I think that the first one charging the cells?
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: It's just it's like all you have to think about
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: is like do you have a charger for your cell phone?
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: You know, like and not only do you have a charge,
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: do you charge your cell phone?
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: You don't take it to the Apple Store to charge it?
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: I don't want people to just rely on me, Like,
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: I don't want to be the Apple Store. I want
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: to te each and empower people how to charge their
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: own selves, right.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like teaching a man to fish, right.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: You don't want to be providing the fish. You just
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: want people to be independent or interdependent, but not necessarily
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: codependent on a specific method or a person. So yeah,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: for the first step, I'm curious if you need to
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: give us like a couple of your top go to
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: lifestyle tips again, maybe things that maybe mainstream is missing,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: like what are those things that you turn to to
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: charge yourselves?
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: So it's so funny because I just mentioned we have
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty events, and it's like people always
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: ask me.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: Like what where, what should I do? Like what should
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: I go to?
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: And so it usually requires me a couple of questions
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: of asking people because you really want people whatever their
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: practice is, they want. You want them to love it
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: because if they don't, they're not going to do it.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: But I will tell you, like breath.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: We have a breath workshop excult Data Breath, and it's
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: using conscious circular breathing and it's the most intense thing
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: that I've ever experienced. Like as a yoga teacher, this
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: is a funny story. As a yoga teacher for fifteen years,
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: like I understand breath and movement and how powerful it
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: could be. But the first time I was invited to
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: explore conscious circular breathing and knew that I was going
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: to have to manipulate my breath and override my natural
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: breath for twenty eight minutes, I was like, I don't
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: want to do that, Like that doesn't sound fun to me.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: And I ended up doing it because it was my
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: friend's fiftieth birthday and that's what she wanted to do,
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: and it literally changed my entire life. So I would
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: say breath sometimes is a cliquche offering to people, but
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: it's so powerful, especially if you're doing like a powerful breath,
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: like conscious circular breathing. And I would say, if anyone
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: in your audience is like interested in learning more about that, like,
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: reach out to me, because it's very specific.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: I think nature is another one, like.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: We offer shinraan yoku and forest bathing, and that like
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: cannot be underestimated. Again something that might sound cliche, but
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: cannot be underestimated.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: But the biohacking device that I use.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: That like, after literally looking for a decade, I found
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: something that's called Healy h e a l Y and
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: it's been one of the another really turning point in
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: my business and in my personal life because if you
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: are a healer, like all of your healers out there
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: that are listening, if you incorporate something like Healy into
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: your practice, you are not only going to set yourself apart,
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: but you won't even like the difference that you will
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: see being made in people's lives. And again, anyone's interested
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: in that, like, they can reach out to me and
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: I can tell them more about that. But yeah, that's
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: that's what I've noticed is very powerful and like charging
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: people cells.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: I'm grounding right.
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: Grounding is the number.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: One to charge yourself, Like put your hand on a tree,
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: put your feet on the ground with no shoes on,
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: and it will change your life. I've actually personally done
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: my own scientific studies of like inflammation that I had
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: in my body and like logged my grounding and like
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: I had lower back pain for years and it literally
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: dissipated by using grounding.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those are such powerful and like you said, sometimes
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: underestimated or banal modalities that you mentioned, and I'm glad
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: you brought them up because I was thinking, you know,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: obviously everybody knows like good clean water and air and
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: filters and nutritious nutrients and foods and stopping you know,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: inflammatory foods or just things that we have around us,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: like even screens and EMPs and all that stuff. So
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: I'm sure it's all comprehensive, but I'm glad you mentioned
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: those specific modalities because they do sound simple, and yet
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: people are not engaging in those practices. People are not
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: spending time outside, they're not getting the sunlight, the healthy
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: sunlight right in the morning hours, or they're not exposing
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: themselves to the natural rhythm and circadian clock, and so
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I'm very happy that you brought those up. And then
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: from the other modalities, maybe if you can share what
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: people are missing, like I know, dropping into data waves.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: There's some talk about that, but.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe if we can go through like one key
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: example of how one may progress through these stages. So
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: if you can give an example of dropping into data.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that we all have at some
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: point in our lives like dropped into it. It's like
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: I almost refer to as like lucid dreaming, like you
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: kind of are sleeping, but you also know what's going on,
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: and it's actually the beautiful state of like this quantum
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: where you can and actually like create and manifest in
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: the space, which is another reason why I of data
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: and data breath and all these kinds of things. The
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: truth is is that you know, when you're using my
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: five part system and using Zanjay as like this channel
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: energy that's flowing through you, it's gonna work regardless of
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: what it's gonna work, regardless of what brain state you're in.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: But when we speak to this whole concept of empowering
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: other people, I want them to understand that they are
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: living in high beta and that there are simple things
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: that can just drop them into these lower alpha theta states.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: And when people first start practicing with me, whether it's
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: in data breath or whether it's in like a one
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: on one session, private session with me, you know, if
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: they're used to living in high beta every day seventy
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: percent of the time and yeah, they're thirty percent of
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: the time is just delta when they're sleeping, so they're
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: whole waking hours are in high beta. They can't easily
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: drop into alpha and data. And that's not an expectation
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: that I want to.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: Put on people who are just learning this.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: I want them to say, Okay, well, how can I
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: just drop into low and mid beta?
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Like, how can I just drop into these more analytical
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: logical states that.
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: Aren't survival mode?
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: So that's like the first step is just having them
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: understand the brain states in general and how they can
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: just like kind of slow it down and go into
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: low and mid beta. And then eventually, the more they
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: start slowing down and coming into silence and practicing these
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: things and changing their lifestyles, they're going to naturally be
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: able like I can go very quickly into alpha and beta,
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: right because I've practiced this for so long, So yes,
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: I sometimes am in high beta in particular low and
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: mid beta, but then I can also just like almost
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: flip the switch and drop down, and people cannot do
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: that unless it's a practice in their lives. So I
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: think that's that's actually an important part to understand.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, practice makes perfect and repetition is the key
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: to anything, so makes sense. Now I do want to
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: cover the moving through trauma aspect because trauma has been
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: such a big word, and there's been COVID with the
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: collective trauma, and now there's just so much strife and
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: again the information overload of everything that's going wrong in
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: the world, and then personal trauma that a person may
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: have experienced or witnessed. So what's like the key thing
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: that needs to happen for a person to move with
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: their or through their trauma.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So what I teach in the method that I
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: have is called high frequency healing. And so what we
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: do is first of all, by It can come out
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: in two different ways. It can be just by talking
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: to the clients and seeing where the chronic issue is
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: so that they might say, you know, like my chronic
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: issue is in my left hip or whatever, and then
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: we associate that with a certain like I call it suffering,
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: like different representations of suffering, So like a hip might
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: be anger as opposed to like grief or sadness, Like
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: what is the suffering and where is it being in
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: the body? The so it might be evidence that the
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: actual client tells you right. The other way is through
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: the chakras, like you can test the chakras. Chakras are
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: an indication of your personal frequency. They're an indication of
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: how charged your cells are in different areas of your life.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: And the way in which I teach chakra is just
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: based off of the data that I've had over the
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: last fifteen years and working with thousands of clients. I've
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: actually created the data of like when this chakra is closed,
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: it's associated with this. So I have a different way
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: in which we work with chakras. And I won't get
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: into any of that here, but basically, when you determine
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: where the trauma is stored within the body, then you
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: use a weighted tuning for to dislodge that trauma. And
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: so it's it's fascinating because I've seen the patterns over
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: the last fifteen years and that's also what hey, healer's
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: out there, like right, Like keep track of the patterns
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: because the patterns are telling you something. And that's why
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: I always tell my students, like, keep a journal when
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: you become a healer. And like sometimes people bok at that,
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: like they don't. I'm not saying keep a journal so
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: that you can share like brain dump. I'm saying keep
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: a journal because then you can go back and look
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: at patterns that are happening in your in your practice.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: That's how I've been able to determine all the things
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: I have over the last fifteen years is because I
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: saw patterns and then I identified what those patterns have
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: meant across you know, a wide range of clients.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's literally science, the scientific method and putting the
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: research in and tracking it. And I agree, it's it's
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: kind of a difficult commitment on top of everything else
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: that you're trying to achieve, also keeping track and looking
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: at the metrics. And again, when you're a business owner
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: and a healer, it does make sense and it adds
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: benefit because then you won't have the perspective and then
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: you might get even more into imposter syndrome when you're
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: not seeing a positive trajectory because you're not actually measuring it.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: So I love that, and I also want to cover
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: the last step with transitionally say something.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because I love that you said, yeah, that's literally science,
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: because I'm not.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: I am like an.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: Energy teacher of vibration, right, but to me, like I
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: also have a little bit of type A personality, like
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: my degrees in accounting, like I like to create a
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: means spreadsheet, like I get excited, I nerd out on data,
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: and so I love the point that you may is
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: that you know, some people might not be that they
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: might be they might be more of them on the
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: creative side, and it might be very hard for.
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: Them to love data or see patterns.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: And maybe you're not your audience because it sounds like
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: your audience are probably going to be more on that side.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: But just say, you just made me laugh when you
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: said that, like that's literally science, and I'm like, yes.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my audience is probably very familiar. And I still
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: feel like sometimes we're not connecting the dots with spiritual
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: or healing modalities and the scientific method. And literally what
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: you just said about tracking patterns encompasses everything, like everything
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: in life, everything in nature is a pattern, whether you're
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: calling at science and running a clinical trial or doing
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: what you said and just observe and note it down.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: You know, our ancestors did it. This is how astronomy
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: and also astrology came to be with her sister sciences
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: that look at things a little bit differently, but it
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: comes from tracking and understanding where we are in relation
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: to everything else. So I think some people are just
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: not drawing the similarities, and I wanted.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: To just state that.
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: And so I'm curious about your last step with transmission,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: because that's a word that maybe some of the scientific
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: community may not be so familiar with. So could you
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: explain that process for us?
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, let me ask you this question.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: Are you familiar with the word attunement or is that
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: also more of a foreign word?
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say explain that too.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Okay, So I think an attunement I kind of I
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: like to use the word transmissions instead of attunement. But basically,
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: what it is is that you're it's definitely a spiritual
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: concept and energetic concept of where you're kind of passing
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: on a certain Well, let me just talk about it
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: from from like me as a teacher, to a student,
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: I'm passing on like this lineage, like this energy, this
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: way in which you know, I've created a way to
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: raise people's vibrations or charge their selves.
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: Right. So it's an attunement process.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: It's a transmission from teacher to student, so that's one way,
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: but then the transmissions are also from practitioner to clients.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: So there are specific.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: Transmissions that we use in the high frequency healing method
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: where we're allowing them to almost connect to their higher self,
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: their internal wisdom.
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: And again it goes back to empowerment.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: For me, it's like, do you know how many people
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: have come to me and they want me to tell
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: them the answers, And it's like, I can only unlock
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: the truth that's within you, and my answers are different
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: than your answers, so I can't give you my answers,
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: but I can help unlock the truth that's within you.
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: And that's really what attunements and transmissions are about. It's
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: like honoring their lived wisdom and unlocking it for them,
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: and I can just be a catalyst to do that.
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: Ooh, Like I'm just going to say, WHOA, that was good.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, like.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: I'm just going to pat myself on the back and say, like,
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: you know, sometimes I don't know how things are going
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: to come out of me, and I always like say, like,
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: let me speak to the people that I'm speaking with
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: so that they can hear what I'm saying. And I
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: don't know if that made sense to you, but that
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: felt really good to me. Yeah.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: It actually reminded me of the previous step that you
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: talked about with the tuning fork, and how we are
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: coming to the same vibrational level. So we're like up
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: leveling to the person, the teachers or the practitioners frequency
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: end vibe and just being in their presence if they're
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: more in the frequency of love, let's say, or some
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: other high or vibrational pattern. We naturally affect get affected
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: by each other, and so it's like walking in a
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: room and just feeling like a bad vibe in a
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: restaurant or something, and when you feel a good vibe,
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: it's similar. And so when the teachers in that positive
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: states and that enlightenment or transcendence of some sort, then
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: they can pass it on to you.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: And we're all.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Picking up on those things, whether we're conscious of it
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: or not.
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like you're the bridge, is really what it is.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: You're the connector. You're the bridge. It's not that they
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: can't do it on their own, but you're just almost
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: like jump starting like a battery, Like you're just the
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: bridge or the connector. And I love what you were
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: just saying about. Like that's science too. It's called entrainment. Right.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: In sound therapy, it's referred to as entrainment, and so yeah, yeah,
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I also just want to repeat back what
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: you said several times. You mentioned that when you are
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: investing in yourself, let's say financially or using any sort
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: of resources to jumpstart, right, or to use a coach
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: or trainer or some kind of modality that will help
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: be that enzyme, that catalyst for you, that's part of
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: the growth process.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: So unless you're willing to invest either time, money, energy,
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: or any combination of those things and get a person
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: who can teach you so that you can go there faster,
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: then you're not going.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: To be able to jumpstart yourself, right.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: You're going to need to invest in one of those
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: things and ideally again a combination in order to progress
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: and get really the clarity, right, of what you yourself
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: are seeking, right, because we're not here to force anybody
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: to do anything.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: Our mission as healers as teachers is to.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Help you honor your own growth, whatever you're seeking, whatever
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: pattern that is for you, and help you to develop
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: that yourself, not for us to be carbon copies of
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: anyone else.
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean I would say right now, anyone
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: listening to this, like, when you're done listening to this,
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: go find something you can invest in yourself, Like get
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: in a room with people that are going to lift
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: you up, inspire you, whether it's one person, a coach,
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: a group, a mastermind, like it. It's hands down will
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: change your life investing.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is actually bringing us right to our rapid
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: round fire of questions. So question number one was going
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: to be what's the number one thing somebody could do
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: right now to improve their quality of life?
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: And I think you just answer that beautifully.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: But if you have anything else to add.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: Well, I think that is what you can do to
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: improve your business. Let me just say that, like if
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: you want, if you want your business to take off,
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: and invest in yourself, I would say, like, if you
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: personally are looking for something, it's just to realize that
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: nothing in life is neutral, right, Everything is either raising
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: or lower in your vibration. So start to just like
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: be mindful of what you're doing.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: I always say, like.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: If you had a fitbit, let's go back to the
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: Bruce Tanno of like you're if you're in the healthy
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: range of sixty two to seventy two megahurts per second.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: If you had a fitbit on and it actually calculated
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: your vibration and it started to dip, like, what would
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: you do.
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: In that moment?
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: You would acknowledge what you were doing and you would
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: probably be a lot more mindful, right, So but yeah,
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: that's what I guess, that's what I would say.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everything starts with that awareness and intention.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: So that's great.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: And just getting in a room with other people and
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: getting in their energy and their frequency is also just
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: speak to some of those steps that we were just
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: talking about.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: So that's perfect, Okay.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Question two, what's a fun fact or hobby about yourself
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: that maybe people are not aware of?
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: Well, it's so funny because I would say that most
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: people would consider me a workaholic, and it's because I
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: think working is fun. So when people ask me, like
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: what do I do with my outside world?
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: You know, It's like I do all the things right.
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: I have an education and retreat center that's like one
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: hundred feet from me, so every night I walk down
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: there and I do something.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: So I have a pretty boring life.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: And there would be nothing that would shock people that
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: I can tell them.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right, all right cool.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: I'm sure if people are not aware of some of
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: those everyday things that are every day for you, they
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: they might be shocked.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Well, like I.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: Would say, you know, like I'm just again, I'm boring.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: Like the only thing I ever do is drink water.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: I've just you know, I've just decided to live lifestyle
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: choices that oh you know, I guess sometimes I binge
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: and people are surprised like that is my that is
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: I like to binge watch TV and my favorite favorite
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: show is Madam Secretary, which is really really weird and bizarre,
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: and I've probably watched it like six times through and
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: my husband is like, are you seriously watching Madam Secretary again?
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: What I love.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: About it is she's such like a she's such a
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: bad am. I allowed to say ass, She's such a
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: bad ass. And I understand she's a fictional character, but
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: she's such a bad ass. But then when she goes
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: home to our family, you just realize, like she's a
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: normal person. And I don't know, there's something so magical
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: about that is that we can be badass business owners
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: but then come home and our family is like our
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: soft place to land. And so I don't know, I'm
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: just obsessed with that show.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: I love when people share guilty pleasures, So thank you
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: for that. I am I'm personally taking a break from
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: watching anything, but as soon as I'm back on my
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: on my screen time.
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: I will definitely give that a watch. Okay, let me
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: know what you think about it.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: I will Yeah, I love those kind of characters.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: So my last and final question for you is if
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: people are resonating with this content, maybe they are in
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: a place where they need healing, or maybe they are
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: ready to step into a more entrepreneurial journey. Where can
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: they learn more about your work and how can you
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: help them potentially?
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I don't you know.
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: You had mentioned maybe there was a couple of people
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: in your community in Ohio.
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: What I would say is like, if.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: You're in Ohio and you like, come to our treat center,
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: come to our wellness on it. We have people that travel,
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: like like across the United States actually to come to
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: some of our certifications. So if you're close to us,
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: like come on down. What I would say though, is that,
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: like I also play on the Internet streets, right, Like,
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: so I do trainings. You know, there's something I wanted
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: to mention, like as healers, I don't know if a
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: lot of your people own brick and mortars or if
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: they're living on the Internet, and I live in both worlds.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: You know, like the learning is going to grow to
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: one trillion dollars by twenty thirty on the Internet, Like
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So a lot of people
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: come to me and say, man, I want a brick
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: and mortar like you, And I'm like, hey, Like, there's
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: nothing wrong with the Internet streets. So if you're looking
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: for me on the Internet streets, you can find me
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: at Courtneymartinelli dot com. I also have a YouTube channel.
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: I have an Instagram account. Like if you just type
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: Courtney Martinelli, like a bunch of things will pop up.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: Probably Shine Ohio might be the first thing that pops up.
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: But yet I have a master class a.
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: Free master class coming up on November six, and really
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: I'm just going to talk about the eight traps that
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: keep the business owners from growing their business. So if
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: anybody wants to come down on November six, so I would
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: love to have you there, and you can find that
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: on Courtney Martinella dot com.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: All right, beautiful, I'll have all of that in the
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: show notes. And where in Ohio are you based for
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: those locals?
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: So I'm actually in Kent, Ohio, which is in between
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: Columbus and Cleveland.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: Amazing.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: All right, well, brilliant. I really loved having you on.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: I loved our conversation and how you show in your
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: lights and the journey that you shared and your mission is.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: Just absolutely beautiful.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: So thanks again for being on and I look forward
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: to keeping in touch so fun.
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: Thank you for having me.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: You're a very gifted interviewer, so I appreciate you.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Courtney, have a good day, bye bye.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the
• 53:51
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