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Ep. 298: Rut Fresh Radio 9/11/19 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this episode number two and
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Speaker 1: today in the show, we are back for another episode
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Speaker 1: of our fresh mini series in which we're getting fresh
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Speaker 1: from the field updates from deer hunters across the country
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Speaker 1: on what deer doing right now, help coming conditions might
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Speaker 1: impact them, and what you can do in the coming
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Speaker 1: days to fill your tag. Welcome to the Wired to
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Speaker 1: Hunt podcast, brought to you by on X. It is
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Speaker 1: me and Spencer new Hearth here for another episode of
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Speaker 1: our fresh radio mini series which we hear from hunters
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Speaker 1: all across the country on the latest in dear activity,
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Speaker 1: on how current conditions are impacting deer and deer hunting,
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Speaker 1: and the different ideas in tips and tactics that can
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Speaker 1: help you feel a tag right now in these next
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Speaker 1: couple of days. That's the game plan for today, Spencer.
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Speaker 1: Do you feel that given the given the gauntlet I
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Speaker 1: just laid, can we meet those expectations? Can we deliver
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Speaker 1: on the episode today? I think we can. I think
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Speaker 1: listeners should be interested into what these four guests have
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Speaker 1: to say because this time of year, maybe more than
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Speaker 1: any other time of year, the deer movement seems to
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Speaker 1: be almost like a light switch, like the velvet's gone,
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Speaker 1: the bachelor group's break up, and these bucks that you've
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Speaker 1: been seeing on their summer patterns for the last three
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Speaker 1: months now t are nocturnal, and so like hearing this
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Speaker 1: kind of information, I think in early to mid September
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Speaker 1: is more valuable than maybe even like early November. Yeah yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: yetta strike when the iron is hot, and it can
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Speaker 1: get cold real fast this time of year. So that said,
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Speaker 1: who do we talk to? We start off in Maryland
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Speaker 1: and talked to Cody Hesseltine, and then in South Dakota
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Speaker 1: was Alex Comstock from White Tailed DNA, and then we
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Speaker 1: get on to Florida from Story Hunts is Brandon Story,
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Speaker 1: and then we talked to Hunter Forbes from Southern White
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Speaker 1: Tail Outfitters in Kentucky. Now I enjoyed talking to these
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Speaker 1: guys because I have not been getting my white tail
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Speaker 1: fixed lately. I'm about to start focusing on elk. But
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Speaker 1: you Mark, you have been doing some scouting in preparation
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Speaker 1: for Michigan's opening, which is still like three weeks away,
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Speaker 1: is that correct? Yeah, yeah, to two and a half
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Speaker 1: weeks something like that. But yes, doing my long distance scouting,
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Speaker 1: which every year I find myself doing more and more
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Speaker 1: and more of, um, just getting out there with a
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Speaker 1: spotting scope and watching being fields or food plots or
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Speaker 1: crop fields of some kind depending on what I can
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Speaker 1: get access to. And and yeah, you know, the last
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Speaker 1: couple of days up until today, we have had some
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Speaker 1: pretty cool weather for the time of the year, and
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Speaker 1: I think that in part has led to some pretty
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Speaker 1: good activity out there still in some of these fields.
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Speaker 1: So I've got on one of the properties that can hunt.
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Speaker 1: There was a late planted bean field, so it is
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Speaker 1: still very green and the deer just hammering it. So, oh,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Handful nights ago, I saw a real
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Speaker 1: nice I've been calling the big nine, but I think
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Speaker 1: he's actually ten point. He's got a short G four
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Speaker 1: on on his right side, I guess, but he's a
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Speaker 1: three or four year old. And then last night and
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Speaker 1: the night before that, I saw another buck that I've
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Speaker 1: been seeing a lot this summer, really nice ten pointer um.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you saw this. I posted
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Speaker 1: this on Instagram last night, Spencer. But I've been watching
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Speaker 1: this buck growth throughout the summer, and I've been trying
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Speaker 1: to figure out, like, do I know this, dear? Is this?
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Speaker 1: Is this somehow a deer that took a big jump
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Speaker 1: from last year? He kind of seems familiar, and a
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Speaker 1: two year old from last year kept pop up popping
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Speaker 1: up in my head as a deer, like I need
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Speaker 1: to go back and compare pictures and video to this one.
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Speaker 1: So finally last night I went and did it. I
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Speaker 1: looked at a bunch of pictures, pull of a bunch
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Speaker 1: of old video, and then compared it with all the
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Speaker 1: phone scope footage I have of this deer this year,
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Speaker 1: and matching him up with similar angles. I think it's
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Speaker 1: a match. I think, at least it is a very
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Speaker 1: good chance it's a match. This dear last year was
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Speaker 1: just a decent two year old eight pointer here in Michigan, UM.
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Speaker 1: And I noticed him last year because I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you remember, But all through the late summer and
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Speaker 1: early fall last year, I was still holding out hope
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Speaker 1: that holy Field might have made it UM And so
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Speaker 1: I got a couple like grainy distant pictures of like
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Speaker 1: a tall eight pointer in the distance and had a
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Speaker 1: frame that kind of till ted it up. His main
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Speaker 1: beings kind of tilted up at the end. I'm like, man,
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Speaker 1: could that be holy Field? If if so, he really
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Speaker 1: took a jump down, like he really decreased in size. Well,
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Speaker 1: it turns out it wasn't holy Field. It was this buck.
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Speaker 1: It was this eight pointer. And I ended up seeing
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Speaker 1: him a bunch throughout the season, and in November he started.
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Speaker 1: He appeared one day like really injured, like seriously gimped up.
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Speaker 1: Uh So I just kind of referred to as gimpy
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Speaker 1: every time of something that's that's gimpy in my head.
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Speaker 1: He pop out almost he like it's like he followed
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Speaker 1: me around every time I was out. I would see him,
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Speaker 1: Um well lo and behold, I think that gimpy is
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Speaker 1: this ten pointer really has picking a nice jump. He's
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Speaker 1: a good looking ten point, just a three and a
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Speaker 1: half year old, but he's been out there feeding. This
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Speaker 1: big nine was out there feeding, you know, thirty minutes
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Speaker 1: before dark. So that's a long winded way of saying
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Speaker 1: kind of like what you mentioned at the top that
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Speaker 1: when the going is good, the going is good. And
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Speaker 1: so we've had cool weather and I had a good
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Speaker 1: food source and that got these uh, these nicer bucks
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Speaker 1: in the area out on their feet. So I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: keep on keeping tabs on it, you know, the next
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Speaker 1: two weeks, going to stay off the property and um,
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Speaker 1: just observe and maybe put something in place for opening
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Speaker 1: day or that first week. But I'm excited. It's coming quick.
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Speaker 1: It's coming quick. It sounds like that light bulb where
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Speaker 1: these bucks break up their bachelor groups and go nocturnal
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Speaker 1: has not quite turned off for you yet, Is that correct? Well,
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Speaker 1: I will say the bachelor groups seemed to have broken
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Speaker 1: up these so these sightings that I've seen recently were
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Speaker 1: so low sightings. And in previous you know, all throughout
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Speaker 1: the summer it was a big group of them. And
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Speaker 1: now I've just been seeing that one of them would
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Speaker 1: be out there and then two days later the other
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Speaker 1: one would be out there. But they're all by themselves now.
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Speaker 1: So I do think that is that has happened. But
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Speaker 1: you know, it's still early. That testosterone it's it's rising,
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Speaker 1: right the velvets peeled that the stopstone is rising, But
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Speaker 1: we certainly are still in that somewhat friendly stage. As
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Speaker 1: we get closer to octog, we're you know, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: start seeing things changed every week, but they're still on
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Speaker 1: speaking terms right now. I'd say, and and something Mark
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Speaker 1: that like I've I've picked up on through now four
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Speaker 1: seasons of doing this podcast is deer movement in mid
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Speaker 1: September can largely be dictated by consistent weather. Now, there's
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Speaker 1: certain like things that you hear, like a cold front
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Speaker 1: will get deer on their feet, or a full moon
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Speaker 1: will make deer movement worse in the mornings. Meanings like,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of general things like that that are
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Speaker 1: just really widely accepted. And I think this is maybe
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Speaker 1: one that I haven't heard talked about as much until
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Speaker 1: he started doing this podcast. And then two years ago
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Speaker 1: in late September, I killed my biggest buck ever with
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Speaker 1: my bow and that was kind of the same case.
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Speaker 1: It was like a week straight of the same wind,
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Speaker 1: no temperature fluctuations. And then on this episode again it
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Speaker 1: came up where guys were talking about how they were
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Speaker 1: excited for the come week because there was that consistent
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Speaker 1: weather that have been building. Is that something that you've
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Speaker 1: heard people discussed or talked about for hunting in September. Well,
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Speaker 1: will clarify this for me, because the thing I have
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Speaker 1: heard from a couple of people, not a lot, but
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Speaker 1: Mark Drewy in particular talks about this is that when
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Speaker 1: you get a long period of consistent weather, the first
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Speaker 1: day it breaks, the first day that change happens is
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Speaker 1: when you see that bumping movement. So if you were
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Speaker 1: to have four or five days of the same when
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Speaker 1: stuff stagnates, the longer something stagnates, it builds up the
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Speaker 1: potential boost that you'll get as soon as it changes.
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Speaker 1: That's one of the theories I've heard is that what
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Speaker 1: you're speaking to or are you saying that these guys
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Speaker 1: are saying that they have better hunts during the stagnant,
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Speaker 1: similar consistent weather. Yeah, I'm referring to like when you
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Speaker 1: get four or five days of consistent weather that some
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Speaker 1: of these people we've talked to you in this episode
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Speaker 1: in past episod zodes uh like to see that in
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Speaker 1: the forecast. And I don't know the reasoning or if
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Speaker 1: they can even justify or I can justify it. Maybe
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Speaker 1: it said it like kind of gets them back in
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Speaker 1: that summer pattern in mid September, after it's kind of
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Speaker 1: gone away. I don't know what it is, um, but
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Speaker 1: it's something now that's come up over a couple of
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Speaker 1: seasons of doing this podcast. Interesting. I mean, the one
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Speaker 1: thing that comes to mind is it's simply is beneficial
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Speaker 1: from a hunting standpoint as the hunter, because if you've
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Speaker 1: got four or five days of a consistent wind direction,
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Speaker 1: you have four or five days where deer might be
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Speaker 1: doing something that you can take an advantage of in
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Speaker 1: the same way, right, Because it sucks if you see
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Speaker 1: a buck do something for two nights with a west
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Speaker 1: wind and then you can finally hunt him, but then
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's east wind, you know. But
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Speaker 1: if you have five days straight of west's, then you
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Speaker 1: have the opportunity to make a move with that similar window. Actually,
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's one thing I can think of that
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Speaker 1: would make that beneficial. But I'm intrigued to hear from
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Speaker 1: these people about what they're seeing. Yeah, I think that's
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Speaker 1: that's maybe the best observation on this theory. Mark that
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Speaker 1: if if you are watching a bean field and there's
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Speaker 1: five days of south winds and you see this deer
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Speaker 1: doing this on nights too, and nights three, then you're
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Speaker 1: probably gonna see him there in night's four and five,
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Speaker 1: And and in your head that means that the buck
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Speaker 1: moon is better if you're seeing the same thing. So
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Speaker 1: maybe not in reality that the deer movement is better,
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Speaker 1: but it certainly is at a haunters advantage that perception. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that makes sense. Well, I would say we should just
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Speaker 1: get into it because I'm not deer hunting right now,
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Speaker 1: to take up here, Spencer, Yes, And I want to
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Speaker 1: in Maryland, what would you say the bucket activity is
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Speaker 1: ben lately on a scale of one to ten for
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Speaker 1: our opener was pretty good. Um, I would probably give
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Speaker 1: it a seven eight out of ten. On Saturday, Friday
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Speaker 1: was pretty slow because you had the hurricane come through
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Speaker 1: with some some high winds and it kind of laid
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Speaker 1: the deer down their real skittish. But you know Saturday
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Speaker 1: after that I pass the deer really moved. Well. No,
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Speaker 1: I know, you just killed a buck there in Maryland.
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Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about that setup. Um, so
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Speaker 1: I'm that set up I was. I was kind of
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Speaker 1: hunting in a transition area, something just off the edge
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Speaker 1: of betting where these deer come outs a thicket, I mean,
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Speaker 1: transitioning through it going to a big white up flat
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Speaker 1: um as a white us to just started dropping it
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Speaker 1: within the last week and a half or so. So
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Speaker 1: is that a food source that you think is going
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Speaker 1: to be pretty consistent throughout the all of September here
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Speaker 1: or is that a short window where deer you're going
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Speaker 1: to be hitting that. No, it'll be pretty consistent throughout
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Speaker 1: the month. They're just starting to drop now, They're they're
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Speaker 1: not a lot coming down. I think in the next
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Speaker 1: week the two more should start falling. That should be
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Speaker 1: a bigger food source for the deer as an urban
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Speaker 1: bow hunter. What are the food sources this time of
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Speaker 1: year are you looking for? Um? I hunt a little
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Speaker 1: bit on the edge of farmland. Two. So the sugbeans
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Speaker 1: are still pretty grand, and now the deer still really
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Speaker 1: going to feed on those. The white oaks and some
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Speaker 1: of the burrows are really what I tend to key on,
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Speaker 1: trying to get up some most flash the deer coming
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Speaker 1: out and these open flash if he at night. Do
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Speaker 1: you notice any differences for how long or how short
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Speaker 1: those urban deer hold their summer patterns versus the ones
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Speaker 1: that are in more of your typical farm country. I
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Speaker 1: don't really know the difference between the urban far arm deer.
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Speaker 1: It really seems here once the white oaks start following,
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Speaker 1: that really becomes their preferred source of food and that
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Speaker 1: they'll go right to that. So I don't really see
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Speaker 1: too much of a change in patterns from the urban
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Speaker 1: and farm deer as summer. What are you seeing right
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Speaker 1: now for bachelor groups or bucks still traveling together at
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Speaker 1: this point? Yeah, for the most part, they're still traveling together.
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Speaker 1: They're starting to break up a little best seeing some
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Speaker 1: of the mature bucks that shed their velot, they're starting
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Speaker 1: to hang out by themselves now, but for the most part,
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Speaker 1: most of deer still battered up in groups of four
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Speaker 1: or five. And are you seeing any signmaking at this
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Speaker 1: point in Maryland or do you think it's still too early? Um?
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Speaker 1: Too early? I mean I seem a little bit just
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Speaker 1: some of the community scrapes that are open year round
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Speaker 1: though they're still being hit. But I haven't seen any
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Speaker 1: rubs or anything like that happen. Cody, what is your
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Speaker 1: trail camp strategy this time of year then, and how
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Speaker 1: is that going to change throughout the month of September.
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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm really starting to move a lot of
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Speaker 1: them onto the white Oak flats, trying to you know,
15:56
Speaker 1: figure out which which trees are dropping, a lot of
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Speaker 1: acorns moving in there and hard see what what new
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Speaker 1: deer moving into those areas. Um for that right now,
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Speaker 1: and then also kind of moving some awesome some soybean
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Speaker 1: fields onto some of the community scrapes. I know the
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Speaker 1: buck that you killed was still in velvet, but are
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Speaker 1: you still seeing a lot of those books that have
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Speaker 1: fazzy antlers? Yeah, I would say right now it's probably
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Speaker 1: maybe still in velvet. And notice we opened there on
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Speaker 1: the sixth and I would say probably semi fibers on
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Speaker 1: the bucks from Velvet Ben. But now it dropped down
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Speaker 1: the four they're really starting to shed quick now going forward.
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Speaker 1: Then in this next week or so, what do you
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Speaker 1: think that bucket activity is going to be on a
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Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in Maryland? We got a
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Speaker 1: cold front coming in Friday, so I think it's gonna
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Speaker 1: ramp up. We got kind of warmed up now back
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Speaker 1: up into the nineties. They're supposed to drop up down
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Speaker 1: into the seventies. So with that twenty degree tempt drops
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Speaker 1: there on Friday, I think the buck Act two is
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Speaker 1: going to stay pretty good right around are Cody will
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Speaker 1: congrats on the awesome deer and thanks for joining me.
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Speaker 1: Thank you all and joining us on the line. Next
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Speaker 1: is Alex Colm Stock from White Tailed d NA who
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Speaker 1: was hunting in South Dakota. Now Alex in South Dakota.
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Speaker 1: What would you say the buck activities man lately on
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Speaker 1: the scale of one to tend Yeah, I would say
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Speaker 1: when I was there was probably about three. And the
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Speaker 1: only reason I really wouldn't put it out of one
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Speaker 1: was because the first night we saw two really nice bucks,
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Speaker 1: but it was on the walkout after shooting hours. Um.
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Speaker 1: Other than that, we really didn't see any bucks and
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Speaker 1: deer activity as in general was just really slow. Now,
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Speaker 1: you were hunting the opener on public land there in
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Speaker 1: South Dakota. Do you think that contributed to why you
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Speaker 1: didn't see much? Do you think there was just not
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Speaker 1: much good dear movement across the board? Yeah? I think
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Speaker 1: with the weather this wasn't that good. Uh, deer movement
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Speaker 1: across the board. Um, it was really hot. It was
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Speaker 1: you know, pushing nineties. With the Humanity I think it
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Speaker 1: said it was, you know, about four, So I don't
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Speaker 1: think the weather I was doing as much favors there.
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Speaker 1: So what were your setups then? Knowing that it was
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Speaker 1: really hot and humid, we were on the public land
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Speaker 1: that we were on, we were trying to get tight
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Speaker 1: to bedding um where we were hunting. We had pictures
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Speaker 1: of bucks moving um through midday when they would show up,
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Speaker 1: so we kind of knew we were close to where
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Speaker 1: they were bedded and we were hoping they would kind
18:15
Speaker 1: of get up there right in the last half hour
18:17
Speaker 1: before they head out to the crops, and uh, they
18:19
Speaker 1: just just wouldn't show. So that was kind of our
18:21
Speaker 1: game plan. Now, the great planes had a lot of
18:25
Speaker 1: rain this spring and summer, so there's plenty of water available.
18:28
Speaker 1: Did that factor into your guys decision making it all?
18:32
Speaker 1: It didn't completely factor entire decision making just because there
18:35
Speaker 1: wasn't any water water sources around, But like you said,
18:39
Speaker 1: it was the being so wet out there. There was
18:40
Speaker 1: water just available anywhere, So even if there was, we
18:43
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have from the deer that you did see,
18:47
Speaker 1: we're also still holding velvet or must bucks hard horned
18:50
Speaker 1: at this point. We saw a mix. So there were
18:53
Speaker 1: some smaller bucks that we saw in velvet and we're
18:56
Speaker 1: getting pictures and bucks still in velvet um. But the
18:59
Speaker 1: night that well, those two bucks on the walkout they
19:01
Speaker 1: were they were both horn already, and that would have
19:04
Speaker 1: been on September two. How about bachelor groups? Were bucks
19:08
Speaker 1: still traveling together? It appeared that they were still traveling together.
19:12
Speaker 1: I figured they probably would have been for at least
19:14
Speaker 1: another week. So based on what we were seeing, what
19:17
Speaker 1: do you think the best food source to haunt this
19:20
Speaker 1: time of year would be in that area? Were you
19:22
Speaker 1: looking at some big egg? Where is there's some natural
19:25
Speaker 1: brows available as well? Yeah? Out there it seemed like
19:29
Speaker 1: they were heading out to alfalfa fields at night. We
19:32
Speaker 1: were all the crops that we had around with the
19:34
Speaker 1: corner and salfa. Um seeing deer driving around at the
19:38
Speaker 1: end of the night, um, or those deer that we
19:40
Speaker 1: saw after dark, we're in alfalfa field, so that kind
19:43
Speaker 1: of seemed to be the primary food source. Now, when
19:46
Speaker 1: you only have a short window like that and you're
19:48
Speaker 1: traveling boat hunting on public land, did you consider any
19:51
Speaker 1: morning setups at all? Yeah, we actually hunted two mornings. Um.
19:56
Speaker 1: We got it super early, really tight again to bedding,
20:00
Speaker 1: and the one more was our best hunt. We saw
20:04
Speaker 1: probably a two or three year old buck that had
20:07
Speaker 1: some really good genetics and a few doughs coming through.
20:09
Speaker 1: But even though deer came through within probably the first
20:12
Speaker 1: ten ten minutes of a legal shooting night. So if
20:16
Speaker 1: it hadn't been so hot there in South Dakota in
20:19
Speaker 1: the four or five days you had to hunt, would
20:21
Speaker 1: have that changed your strategies? Yeah, I think we would
20:24
Speaker 1: have probably gone with the same strategy, but it would
20:28
Speaker 1: have probably gave us a better chance for these those
20:30
Speaker 1: mature lucks be getting out of their beds, maybe a
20:32
Speaker 1: little early headed to the food, being able to cut
20:35
Speaker 1: them off in those last hour or so of light,
20:40
Speaker 1: being in close to their bedding like you were. Did
20:42
Speaker 1: you come across any signmaking I know what's really early,
20:46
Speaker 1: but it sounds like you were tight on them the timber,
20:47
Speaker 1: so maybe you saw some rubs or scrapes as soon. Yeah,
20:51
Speaker 1: we did not run any across any rubs or scrapes,
20:54
Speaker 1: So I don't know if we just weren't tight enough,
20:56
Speaker 1: or if if we just weren't in the exact right
20:59
Speaker 1: spot per se. Going forward. Then in the sext week
21:02
Speaker 1: or so, what do you think that bucket activity is
21:04
Speaker 1: going to be on a scale of one to ten
21:06
Speaker 1: in South Dakota. I'd probably put it still pretty low.
21:10
Speaker 1: When I had left, Uh, the outlook for the weather
21:13
Speaker 1: was still pretty warm, and unless you get a significant
21:15
Speaker 1: temperature temperature drop, I would put it probably around the
21:18
Speaker 1: four or five. Alright, Alex Well, I hope you get
21:21
Speaker 1: a chance to return. Good luck with the rest of
21:23
Speaker 1: your season, and thanks for joining me. All right, thanks
21:25
Speaker 1: Spencer are in joining us on the line. Next is
21:29
Speaker 1: Brandon's story from Florida from Story Hunts Now. Brandon in Florida,
21:35
Speaker 1: what would you say the bucket activity has been lately
21:37
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten. I'd say here
21:40
Speaker 1: in the past week, we're probably at about a six
21:42
Speaker 1: out of ten right now, which should be increasing with
21:44
Speaker 1: the full moon coming up here. So what phase of
21:48
Speaker 1: the rut are you experiencing right now in South Florida? UM,
21:52
Speaker 1: In the south zone south of Highway seventy, we've seen
21:55
Speaker 1: really intense running actually from the very beginning of August. UM.
21:59
Speaker 1: It really peaked up in the mid August when the
22:01
Speaker 1: full moon hit then and it seemed to slow back
22:04
Speaker 1: down a little, which I think they'll increase UM as
22:06
Speaker 1: the full moon coming there and then on the north
22:10
Speaker 1: side of seventy and centrals on fixing and open this weekend. UM,
22:14
Speaker 1: we've noticed that the bucks have really broken out of
22:16
Speaker 1: their bachelor groups a couple of weeks ago, and they're
22:18
Speaker 1: starting to make some scrapes and UM lease and signed
22:22
Speaker 1: and break off into their areas. So I would assume
22:24
Speaker 1: that the Central's on rut is gonna probably really get
22:27
Speaker 1: fired up here in the next couple of days when
22:29
Speaker 1: the full moon hits as well. With that full moon coming,
22:32
Speaker 1: how does that change the strategies for your clients? UM?
22:36
Speaker 1: It really just as much as you can stay in
22:38
Speaker 1: the tree stand with the full moon, because you don't
22:40
Speaker 1: really know when they're gonna show their face, but they
22:41
Speaker 1: show their face a lot more during the daylight around
22:44
Speaker 1: that time. It seems like they, um, not only are
22:47
Speaker 1: you know, in the daylight a lot more, there are
22:49
Speaker 1: a lot more serious in intents into the rut. You
22:52
Speaker 1: see a lot more fighting um songs hanging out as
22:55
Speaker 1: their cruising a lot mid day. So you really just
22:57
Speaker 1: have to kind of get where you know, the does
22:59
Speaker 1: are out on the camera lately, and I hope you
23:02
Speaker 1: can get the right buck to pass by at the
23:03
Speaker 1: right time. Now, Hurricane Dorian didn't directly hit you guys,
23:07
Speaker 1: but it certainly brought some weather. How did that affect
23:09
Speaker 1: dear movement? Um, we've definitely seen the increase in deer
23:13
Speaker 1: movement for the two or three days before Dorian got
23:16
Speaker 1: really close to us. Luckily it did turn and go
23:18
Speaker 1: up the coast. Um, it seemed like for the day
23:22
Speaker 1: or two that it was really you know, close to
23:24
Speaker 1: us there and some of the winds and rain were
23:25
Speaker 1: coming in that there was a shut down on some
23:27
Speaker 1: of the cameras that we got to where there was
23:29
Speaker 1: not as much dear movement at all, So it seems
23:31
Speaker 1: like they really loaded up before the storm shut down
23:34
Speaker 1: a couple of days when it was close, and then afterwards, um,
23:37
Speaker 1: we started seeing the deer activity picking back up along
23:39
Speaker 1: with all the birds that are kind of left and
23:41
Speaker 1: not everything got back to normal. Typically, if it was
23:44
Speaker 1: at this stage that brought in mid in the Midwest,
23:46
Speaker 1: hunters would be using calling and decoys and strategies like
23:50
Speaker 1: that to bring the deer to them. Is that something
23:53
Speaker 1: that you guys utilized in South Florida? Yes? Or um,
23:57
Speaker 1: you know, I thought of the Midwest and Florida and
24:00
Speaker 1: I have does seem like some of the Midwest states
24:02
Speaker 1: you get a little better response with the calling and all.
24:05
Speaker 1: But it's I think with any state, the right place
24:07
Speaker 1: at the right time, with the right call is gonna
24:09
Speaker 1: make you know the deer come to you. So there
24:11
Speaker 1: is you know, it is effective right now with the
24:13
Speaker 1: deer on their feet if you can, you know, hit
24:15
Speaker 1: a ground call at the right time, or hit some
24:17
Speaker 1: rattling horns while their cruise and then not on the
24:19
Speaker 1: hot dough and get on the turn and come towards
24:20
Speaker 1: your area a little more so those um, if you
24:23
Speaker 1: know what area you're in, you know a bus, you
24:25
Speaker 1: know we're kind of in that area, and you've got
24:26
Speaker 1: some dominant box. I think calling right now is very effective.
24:29
Speaker 1: What food sources are hunters now focused on? And what
24:33
Speaker 1: food sources are those deer hitting? UM? A lot of
24:35
Speaker 1: our main food sources down here is you know, natural
24:38
Speaker 1: stuff that i'd say the orange grows people setting up
24:40
Speaker 1: off the orange grows. Now. Besides that, we have a
24:43
Speaker 1: lot of protein feeders and you know spin feeders down here,
24:46
Speaker 1: branches have on them for you know, multiple different animals, um.
24:50
Speaker 1: And then people are also planting a lot of food plots.
24:52
Speaker 1: If you had your earlier food plots in where you
24:54
Speaker 1: have your ashion nominee some clover, some peas growing, that'll
24:57
Speaker 1: be your food sources. They're mainly hitting right now with
25:00
Speaker 1: the rut going on in your area. Are you seeing
25:02
Speaker 1: a lot of signmaking right now? And how do you
25:05
Speaker 1: use that? Yeah, we're seeing a lot of signs um
25:08
Speaker 1: popping up in the centrals on now because they're breaking
25:10
Speaker 1: off and starting to mark their territories. UM. As the
25:12
Speaker 1: full moon hits and they actually locked into these does
25:15
Speaker 1: the signs should die down? UM? You usually see a
25:17
Speaker 1: lot of signs if you want to call it pre rut.
25:20
Speaker 1: Different people have different you know, views on what they
25:22
Speaker 1: call rutton pre rut. But before they really start breeding
25:24
Speaker 1: and chasing the dose is when they make a lot
25:26
Speaker 1: of sign. As soon as the sign starts kind of
25:28
Speaker 1: dying down. You know this when they're actually locked into
25:29
Speaker 1: their dos. And I would say, starting this weekend and
25:32
Speaker 1: next week, you're gonna start seeing less sign and more
25:34
Speaker 1: chasing going forward. Then in six week or so, what
25:37
Speaker 1: do you think that bucket TV is going to be
25:39
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten Florida. I would
25:42
Speaker 1: say by the full moon um coming up by this weekend,
25:45
Speaker 1: it's gonna be about a nine out of ten or
25:47
Speaker 1: ten out of ten um with the timing coming off
25:50
Speaker 1: the backside of Dorrian and seeing where the rut's been
25:53
Speaker 1: down south compared to where these bucks are kind of
25:55
Speaker 1: breaking up now, they're about exactly where the deer were
25:58
Speaker 1: down south before the full moon hit there. So I
26:00
Speaker 1: expected it to be pretty high night our tent out
26:02
Speaker 1: of town. All right, Brandon, Well, good luck to you
26:04
Speaker 1: and the hunters. Are you having camp? Thanks for joining me, awesome,
26:07
Speaker 1: appreciate it, ma'am. Alright and joining us on the line
26:10
Speaker 1: next is Hunter Forbes from Southern White Tail Outfitters in Kentucky.
26:15
Speaker 1: Now Hunter in Kentucky. What would you say the bucket
26:17
Speaker 1: activity has been lately on a scale of one to ten,
26:21
Speaker 1: and I M gonna go with a seven, seven out
26:24
Speaker 1: of ten. Yeah, we've got a south wind the past
26:26
Speaker 1: couple of days and put them back in their summer patterns,
26:28
Speaker 1: it seems like. And it's been pretty good. Um, have
26:32
Speaker 1: some hunters killing deer yesterday evening and artist seeing new
26:35
Speaker 1: this afternoon. So yeah, I'm gonna give it a seven
26:38
Speaker 1: these last couple of nights. What have those setups been like? Man?
26:43
Speaker 1: So typically everyone's targeting beans this time of year, and
26:46
Speaker 1: here lately the corn's been getting shaled, so all these
26:49
Speaker 1: first cut corn fields has really drawn the deer in. Um.
26:52
Speaker 1: It seems like the majority of the deer are betting
26:54
Speaker 1: in the beans and coming out to the corn fields.
26:57
Speaker 1: So it's kind of reverse um, which she would be
26:59
Speaker 1: thinking can but everything's leaving the beans and come into
27:02
Speaker 1: the fresh cut corn field. So that's pretty much bet
27:05
Speaker 1: our setups and been working out here lately. So is
27:07
Speaker 1: that a pattern that you think is going to last
27:09
Speaker 1: for a while or is that going to be short lived? Well,
27:12
Speaker 1: it's kind of on a perform basis on when the
27:15
Speaker 1: corn is gonna be coming out. So as soon as
27:18
Speaker 1: it comes out, you know, it may be like that
27:20
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks here. Um. But if you're
27:23
Speaker 1: you know, corn hadn't came out yet, then you're not
27:25
Speaker 1: seeing that. Um. And on all those farms which just
27:28
Speaker 1: mainly been hunting over you can paint in kentuckis that
27:30
Speaker 1: mainly hunting over corn poles? Do you have any strategies
27:34
Speaker 1: for killing those bucks that bed out in egg field,
27:37
Speaker 1: like say they bet in a bean field and they
27:39
Speaker 1: also feed in a bean field. Do you have any
27:41
Speaker 1: strategies for killing those deer? Or they just too hard
27:44
Speaker 1: to get to right now? It's about access this time
27:48
Speaker 1: of year. Um, if you can't get into him, you
27:50
Speaker 1: work you're gonna speak him. You know, it's probably the case.
27:54
Speaker 1: So if you can have a you know, a sit
27:56
Speaker 1: and to be able to watch them from afar and
27:57
Speaker 1: come up with a game plan more than like they're
28:00
Speaker 1: going to be doing the same thing the day after
28:02
Speaker 1: day given constant weather, consistent weather and so over the
28:07
Speaker 1: weekend we struggled a little bit because we went from
28:09
Speaker 1: the south wind to a north wind, and those north
28:12
Speaker 1: wind days we just weren't seeing the deer like we
28:14
Speaker 1: we're on camera. Um. But as of yesterday it swapped
28:18
Speaker 1: came out of south again and we're back to our
28:20
Speaker 1: normal summer patterns and it's been good so far. I'm
28:23
Speaker 1: seeing quite a few deer on cameras and moving in daylight,
28:26
Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll get a few more down this week.
28:29
Speaker 1: So when you say that these deer are back to
28:31
Speaker 1: their summer patterns, does that mean that you catch a
28:33
Speaker 1: lot of bucks traveling and bachelor groups. Yeah, there's some
28:37
Speaker 1: bachelor groups. They're just starting to shed their velvet. Some
28:39
Speaker 1: are right now, and say we're probably sitting on as
28:41
Speaker 1: far as the ones that have and haven't. Every day
28:43
Speaker 1: we're losing you. On those north one days, we got
28:45
Speaker 1: a little bit cooler force. Deer seem to be moving
28:48
Speaker 1: like early morning, right at first light, which we don't
28:50
Speaker 1: hunt the morning's early season. We just stick through the afternoons,
28:53
Speaker 1: you know, afraid to bump in deer out over the
28:54
Speaker 1: food sources getting into We didn't really worked out for
28:56
Speaker 1: our hunting sylm as tours killing this deer, but not
29:00
Speaker 1: we're seeing them in the afternoons. Um. We've been kind
29:02
Speaker 1: of slowly working our way in as far as sitting
29:04
Speaker 1: and seeing them from a couple hundred yards and then
29:07
Speaker 1: hanging and hunting them, you know, wherever we saw them
29:10
Speaker 1: come out from. So that's Prood's been working the best
29:12
Speaker 1: for us and doing that on that they're being shield like.
29:15
Speaker 1: Combines are just getting out of the field and we're
29:17
Speaker 1: going right behind them. Um can drive the truck all
29:19
Speaker 1: the way up to it because they're used to the
29:21
Speaker 1: farm equipment. And before those combines are on the field,
29:23
Speaker 1: we gotta stand hung and hunters ready to go hunting.
29:26
Speaker 1: When you have so many destination food sources like you
29:30
Speaker 1: have on your properties there in Kentucky, do you concern
29:33
Speaker 1: yourself with water at all or are you always focused
29:35
Speaker 1: on that egg? Yes, definitely about water. We're really really
29:39
Speaker 1: dry right now, UM, I'd say, not really constraining water
29:43
Speaker 1: as far as where we're hunting, but as far as
29:46
Speaker 1: what farms are going to have shooter bucks on it
29:49
Speaker 1: right now. If we don't have water somewhere close, we're
29:51
Speaker 1: probably not going to have those deer that we're trying
29:53
Speaker 1: to hunt. So they're they're definitely hanging around it, you know,
29:56
Speaker 1: to some degree, but we're not hunting over them. On
30:00
Speaker 1: a different note, I saw on Instagram today that you
30:03
Speaker 1: guys recovered a buck that it seemed like you had
30:06
Speaker 1: lost hope on to find this deer that a hunter
30:09
Speaker 1: had just hit. It's a really cool story. Yeah, So
30:12
Speaker 1: last night at last light, we had a shot on
30:14
Speaker 1: a deer and a little bit you know, too far forward,
30:16
Speaker 1: further than we would like. Um, we gave him four
30:20
Speaker 1: hours and followed up. We happened to bump the deer,
30:24
Speaker 1: so we came out. Um, he looked like he was
30:26
Speaker 1: hit pretty bad, and we could hear Tardy selling clothes
30:29
Speaker 1: and we're worried that they were going to get to him.
30:31
Speaker 1: And by the morning we came back in this morning
30:34
Speaker 1: and we felt blood for posted nine yards. Um, the
30:37
Speaker 1: last spot kind of ended out of being filled and
30:40
Speaker 1: there's several trails going through and we walked as far
30:43
Speaker 1: as we could, but we're talking bean's chest and that
30:45
Speaker 1: ki super tall. You can't really see you right through it.
30:48
Speaker 1: So I do a lot of scouting with the drone
30:51
Speaker 1: as far as seeing where deer bedding and how they're
30:53
Speaker 1: using this trails going to the fields and stuff. And
30:56
Speaker 1: so grabbed the drone and I didn't have to for
31:00
Speaker 1: sixty seconds. It was plain as day. Um, once we
31:03
Speaker 1: got it up in the air, you can see kind
31:05
Speaker 1: of how the cardy is. I guess um ran him
31:08
Speaker 1: into the beans because a lot of beans were knocked over.
31:11
Speaker 1: We're able to recover him so pretty neat the first time.
31:14
Speaker 1: For me, you don't think you'd recovered that deer otherwise,
31:18
Speaker 1: I really don't. I really don't. We were trying to
31:21
Speaker 1: get ahold a dog and um, a lot of dogs.
31:23
Speaker 1: Was this hot, you know, it's pretty hard to work.
31:26
Speaker 1: We actually found him around I guess one or two o'clock.
31:29
Speaker 1: It was ninety six degrees out. We weren't able to
31:32
Speaker 1: save much of the meat at all. The cardies have
31:34
Speaker 1: done got most of him, so it was just just
31:37
Speaker 1: a recovery. But we're able to do, you know, thanks
31:39
Speaker 1: to that drone. That's a wild story. I'm glad I
31:42
Speaker 1: had a happy ending. But going forward in this sext
31:44
Speaker 1: week or so, what do you think that bucket activity
31:46
Speaker 1: is going to be on the scale of one to
31:48
Speaker 1: ten in Kentucky. Rather, it looks consistent and consistent whether
31:53
Speaker 1: they're gonna be doing the same thing, and I'm gonna
31:56
Speaker 1: stick stick to the seven. It should keep on being
31:59
Speaker 1: just fine. Um here. When acorns start following's gonna change
32:02
Speaker 1: things up. But for right now, I think we're pretty consistent.
32:05
Speaker 1: Just thanks for that freshly cut corn fields and expecting
32:08
Speaker 1: to be bedding in the beans all right, Hunter, thanks
32:11
Speaker 1: for joining me. Good luck to you and your clients,
32:13
Speaker 1: and talk to you later this season. Thanks for getting
32:15
Speaker 1: from you, And that concludes this week's episode of Wired
32:19
Speaker 1: to Hunt's brought Fresh Radio. Thanks to Cody, Alex Brandon,
32:23
Speaker 1: and Hunter for joining me, and thank you guys for listening.
32:26
Speaker 1: Good Luck to those taking advantage of some of these
32:29
Speaker 1: early season white tail openers. I hope your fall has
32:32
Speaker 1: started just as you imagined it would. We'll talk to
32:35
Speaker 1: you guys next week, but until then, stay Weird to Hunt.