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Tailgate Tour RVA · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast, I am Curtis
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  Wilson, I'm Brian seagull, but if you live here on a Wednesday
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  night we got some there's some drinks.
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  This time we got some some fun stuff to talk about.
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  Especially for Monday night, we have a lot of stuff to talk
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  about drinks this time. Yes.
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  Proudly from Monday night holding the VT food and science
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  technology kuzey, We picked up the swag.
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  Why all sorts of swag from Monday night man, we're going to
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  get that into that on the back end because there's so much to
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  unload their. We forget about a lot of other
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  stuff. If we didn't come, I had a super
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  long day, Ron it takes only about it, man, tell me when I'm
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  done with you guys. This morning going to be in
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  meetings all day and I was and have some family in from out of
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  town and man we did some steaks or heat is on the grill tonight.
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  Right? Homemade peach ice cream.
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  I prefer banana. I lost.
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  He chose ice cream eat. Oh man.
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  So that's some Halifax. You right there, homie?
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  Yeah. It's a great thing but after all
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  that after my crazy day and I know you've been busy too.
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  I completely missed her. Jim Phillips ACC press
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  conference so big guy. The floor is yours to inform me
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  of what the hell happened? Well, Jim Phillips got up there
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  and he kind of sang Kumbaya for a little bit.
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  He's trying to talk about the all the neighborhood should be
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  able to have success and we should all do what's right for
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  the kids and keep the kids in mind.
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  And you know, It was kind of like there was some decent
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  points in there, but it was mostly kind of fluff in
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  bullshit. I mean, I think the overarching
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  theme is that, you know, he is keeping options open, whatever.
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  That means. Hopefully, that means adding
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  members and renegotiating the meteorites in terms of the, the,
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  the number. Okay?
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  We need to be closer to that 40 mil versus that lower end of the
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  30s. That's what needs to happen.
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  I don't know if that's going to be what ultimately comes through
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  with this. But I feel like this was a talk
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  that if it was had five years ago, it might have landed
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  better. But it's one of those things
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  where? Here's here's how things it's
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  the should be versus the reality, right?
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  So right now he's saying this is how things should be, but but in
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  reality, they're not. So if you're not addressing
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  reality, it doesn't really matter how things should be.
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  I need someone that's having practical Solutions not Pie in
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  the Sky dreams of what this thing should be.
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  I think we're beyond that at this point.
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  This ain't college football in Utopia anymore.
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  This is what it sounds like to me.
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  Yeah. That ship has sailed loving.
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  It's gone. You know, we're talking about it
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  being driven by money and that's not a good thing.
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  It's been driven by money for over a decade.
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  Really, if we're talking about it for real started, 30 years
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  ago, and it's been a rocket ship, the last decade there in
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  there. It's not slowing down.
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  No, it's not. It would, if you did, if you
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  think it's slowing down, you're being naive, you're being super
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  nice. Well, thank you for that.
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  So it sounds like I didn't miss much, but an overarching theme
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  of either he's playing nice or he has no clue and I hope it's
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  the first not the second for the Hokie sake.
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  I'm hoping he's saying things publicly but but doing what
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  needs to be done on the back end, we will be saying the nice
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  stuff publicly and just getting and pulling out all the women.
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  I'm hoping he learned something from the Big Ten last year and
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  that they said the right shit. But then in the meantime, they
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  were negotiating Dating getting to schools from the Pac-12 from
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  the alliance to join their conference table.
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  They pulled the knives and just started sticking people left and
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  right. Well Brian let's talk.
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  We were talking about this real quick.
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  Can or the Big Ten or the Big 12.
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  The Big Ten in the SEC again long day for me.
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  So I stumbled a night y'all. It is what it is.
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  The only way to the ACC can get out of Grants of right.
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  Deal is to have 18 s. Correct date not 784 a full
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  majority basically. Leave the conference Are there
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  18 s that are attractive enough to the Big Ten in the SEC where
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  they would do that? I think combined.
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  Yes but I don't there's the problem is there's a lot of
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  coordination it'll happen to have to happen because you would
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  have to essentially have the SEC and Big Ten colluding to have
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  all these schools pull out of the ACC at the same time?
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  Well, I don't think the FED would like that.
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  That's That's someone that does that does sound, you know, I
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  don't think that's above board but mean a lot of stuff that
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  goes down isn't above board. Hell, yeah, whether it's the
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  basically legal insider trading that pretty much every
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  Congressman does or any other, you know, stuff that goes down
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  like that. So, I mean, I could see it
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  happening. I don't know if it will happen
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  right now. The grant of rights is the
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  biggest firewall that the ACC As and it's a pretty good one.
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  As long as they don't have a teens that are willing to pull
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  out at one time and I mean, when you look at it, there are
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  potentially a that could go if the Big Ten and SEC tried to
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  move all at one time. And if they don't do that, then
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  it's going to be piecemeal and it won't be enough to get a
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  grant of rights in which case, I don't think the ACC those
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  dissolves until the end of that. Period.
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  Well, I don't think one period. I don't think it's the end of
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  the period I don't, but I don't think it's 14 years away because
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  14 years. I don't think they, I don't
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  think they pull out any earlier than two or three years ahead of
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  that though. Yeah, so I mean, we're talking
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  that's a decade so because because, if we're talking about
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  that, because with grant of rights is essentially saying,
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  I'm picking up this conference, I've already paid the new
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  conference or the school is already going to pay the extra
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  departure fee. Which is 100 top of that.
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  You cannot broadcast the rights for that those games, unless you
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  pay it unless you pay us. Yeah, so that's the big sticking
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  point is that what's the point of moving early, especially
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  earlier, than one or two years, unless you're willing to swallow
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  that? And what's the point of the SEC?
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  Or the Big Ten to, even pull the trigger on that they could just
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  say with the elite conferences, right now, right?
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  We have 16 teams were dead. Tian, our way into the playoff.
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  We're probably going to create their own playoff.
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  What's the reasoning for us to go after someone in basically
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  hand, if they go after four teams a piece and basically hand
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  a conference, what probably 400 million dollars a year give or
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  take? Yeah, I mean, it's going to be
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  interesting to see how this shakes out.
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  I think in the in the interest of everybody, it would be better
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  if we had For conferences, when all was said and done instead of
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  two. But if I heading towards to the
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  thing that I'd say, there's, you know, the firewalls protecting
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  the ACC but in some ways it could hurt the ACC because if
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  the SEC decides it wants to start expanding more, And now
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  market-wise it's going to look at the bigger markets.
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  It wants the North Carolina market, it wants the Virginia
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  Market but there's also some markets out west and in the the
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  middle of the country that are in Big 12 and Pac-12 territory
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  that they might Target in the meantime, what does that mean
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  for the ACC long-term do more schools?
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  Get left out long-term because the SEC expands into these other
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  markets in the meantime because they have less.
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  Less of a firewall. So they can actually go and, and
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  poach them a little bit sooner. Well, the Midwest is tough,
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  though. The Midwest to me, the Midwest
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  is dead to the SEC in the Big Ten.
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  The to one, or two teams. Notwithstanding.
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  Yeah, one team to team. Maybe dip.
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  Maybe if you didn't Phillips. Right now, we already said it to
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  me. He has to go, fishes.
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  And obviously, Does geography matter anymore?
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  No, no, you got to go vicious. You got to look at market and
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  you've got to look at good athletic departments and you
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  know to me you just go in the Northeast Corridor of the
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  country. You look at Oregon, you look at
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  u-dub, you look at Stanford. If Cal wants to come maybe right
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  there. You've got the number 9 tv
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  Market the number 70 me market in the number 20 TV Market.
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  Immediately more eyes if the ACC also thinks about it and this is
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  also something you can push to ESPN and others where you can
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  renegotiate your contracts. If you go get those teams,
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  you're almost guaranteed a non 30 slot.
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  So there is an extra football game on that, you're going to be
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  able to pull probably where no other conference can.
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  And if you have extra games, what does that mean?
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  Ryan, No paper, especially if you got it in those markets that
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  are numbered, you know, pretty big markets and actually pretty
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  well-known poet well-respected teams.
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  So, you know, to me, he's just got to go Scorch, the Earth,
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  burn it, get what you can Notre, Dame's a pipe dream because I
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  think Notre Dame's going to get some.
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  I think CBS is after losing the SEC deal.
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  My opinion is CVS. Is going to throw in asinine
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  number at Notre Dame? Yeah, I don't think they get
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  that. What?
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  It was? 70 75 million that they were
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  talking about but I think they get somewhere in the same
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  ballpark with with the big, with the SEC and maybe even above
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  that, depending on, you know, where they end up Landing there.
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  I mean, they're going to get a lot of money.
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  Yeah. They're they're at least going
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  to land somewhere, right? Around 50.
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  Probably higher. Because CBS is going to be
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  starved for college football on Saturday.
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  So they're going to probably get in b.c. in a price War.
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  And if you get them in a price war, I'm going to say that.
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  What do we say to deal with right now?
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  It was 22, 23 24, 24, 20 times. They triple, I think it can be
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  triple. I think it's at least gonna
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  double up, you know, I and they've got they've got the
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  bargaining power right now, because they've got the layer.
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  All the, all the numbers are going up and they got the
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  leverage and they are a draw in and of themselves.
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  So they are unlike so many. I mean there's only a handful of
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  teams out there that are the television draw that Notre Dame
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  is. And that's despite, I mean,
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  they've had, you know, good runs here but they haven't really had
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  an Elite Squad here in a while. So Salt Lake Bama, that's
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  prevalent perennially in the national championship
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  discussion. Truth, although they've been to
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  the playoffs twice in five years so they have they have but I get
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  I get your drift on. I get your drift on that.
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  So I don't think that Domino's going to fall because I think
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  somebody's going to pay out their ass for it and it's
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  probably going to be worth it in the long run for them.
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  So there that is. We've been on for 15 minutes and
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  I haven't even talked Hokies yet so let's jump to some Mochi
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  stuff here and brought let's start.
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  We some staff updates were made back about six days ago and some
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  interesting moves. Let's start with Jerome gouveia
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  Winslow moving from player Personnel into a analyst role
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  joining Brian, Chris joining Xavier joining Jeff Carpenter
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  doing carry well. Web along with one more person.
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  We're going to talk about here. I don't see this as a shock.
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  No, jgw was coaching down at a smaller school.
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  He obviously has aspirations to coach at a high level.
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  To me, the player Personnel to springboard.
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  Yeah, that was, that was getting his foot in the door at his alma
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  mater. This is him getting closer to an
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  on-field role, you know, you can say, whether you consider it a,
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  you know, a bump up in, Terms of role that that's questionable,
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  depending on where you are, and what your aspirations are.
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  But it is, aspirations are to be an on-field coach, that, this is
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  definitely a jump for him, a move up the ladder for him, so
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  good for him, good for him. You know, he got some, he always
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  got some aligned grief back in the day, but he was a solid
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  player, not the most physically gifted, but definitely a good
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  football player. And then Brian, there was one
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  more dish into the analyst staff.
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  Jan Johnson, who played under At Penn State team captain back in
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  2019, spent a year on the practice squad down at the
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  Titans. Also honorable, mention
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  All-American, and some All-American.
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  All honorable mention Big Ten honors from every other little
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  story story on him at the yes we did.
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  Yes, we did about that later with Janet Johnson talking about
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  Joe Rudolph, but that gives us six.
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  Now, So you've got we already mentioned Chris Xavier, Jeff Jan
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  carry and jdw. Obviously a hell of a lot bigger
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  than last year. I mean, especially only analyst
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  side. Oh yes, significantly.
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  Bigger on the analyst we're plus one or two on.
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  The the recruiting staff side player Personnel side.
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  But we're we're in the big plus territory on the analyst side.
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  And what that's going to do a it's you always keep saying it
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  Brian we're out of Mom and Pops were getting we're not, you
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  know, massive brain yet but when you have six, when you have
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  really probably one guy that's probably going to go back and
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  forth I'm assuming that's probably gonna be Chris calling
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  them. Go back and forth and Webb's
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  going to be your special teams analyst.
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  What it does and buying you've mentioned it before coaches,
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  aren't going to have to spend as much time in the film room.
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  Let's time of the film room. You got guys that you can trust,
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  it's looking at stuff like that. They're giving you notes.
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  They're saying, all right. Here's here's where this player
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  needs to work on next practice. Here's what this player needs to
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  work on next practice. Here's, here's what this
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  upcoming opponent does. Well, here's what they don't do.
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  Well. L.
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  And then they can explain how that is going to help you and on
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  the field and that these are guys that you trust with this
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  type of role versus having, just like, you know, an intern doing
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  stuff like that. And then you have to go back and
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  all right, well, he made these notes but I've got to still
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  analyze. What, what was on the tape and
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  then apply that. These are guys, you can trust in
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  that type of stuff, to, to analyze the, the tape itself and
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  and give you a boost. Going into a game prep week or
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  something like that, going into the season.
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  So that's big more eyes on tapes, means more catches more
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  fixing of issues. That's the one part.
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  I like about it is when you have a rough game having that many
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  analysts the coaches, don't have to be there.
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  The coaches can trust them to figure out what's wrong.
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  They can get on the field and actually coach correctly,
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  correcting. Those are so love it.
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  Hopefully next year We get eight, maybe more.
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  Yeah, we definitely need to keep keep moving forward.
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  I think, you know, this this is this is a big jump for her where
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  we were but we're still probably just middle of the pack in terms
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  of the ACC overall in terms of the number of roles here.
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  So we definitely need to get in at least in that.
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  Upper third. If not in the top two or three
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  now one other real quick note concerning some additional
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  players, we've got a list here on go through really cool to see
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  a guy like A.J Hampton. Who grew up in Roanoke went to
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  board by the taught played down. It Emory & Henry played at Mount
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  Union and spent some time at Florida State, really cool to
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  see. He got a g a position here to
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  further his career. So awesome for that young man
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  and then Brian Carolyn Wilfred we have a new role of director
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  of player engagement. so, We're engaging the players.
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  I mean, it's great, we got another new role which is always
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  awesome. But is this, is this just
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  keeping the kids focused on grade, keeping the fifth focused
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  on outside stuff? I'm going to be interested to
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  hear more about this role because she had done some
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  athletic advising pre this. So I'm very interesting how this
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  role shapes of this. One of those Goodwill roles or
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  if it's something different. Yeah, I mean, she did allowing
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  on the support staff, Support Services student athlete.
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  Support Services, team before that.
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  Yeah, I think what she was in director of football,
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  operations, director of football operations before, getting this
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  role. So, you know, I don't know if
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  this is going to look like on paper or in practice, but I like
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  that. We're specializing.
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  Yes, more on the off field staff whether it's recruiting or other
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  forms of player engagement off the field.
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  Yeah. She was a assistant director of
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  the saas S. So yeah, also a tech Alum that
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  are degree back in 2017. So good for her, obviously with
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  the veil wenzhou joining the analyst day.
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  Hokies were able to hire another player Personnel.
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  His name is Alex Jones. Where do you think he
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  potentially serve his capacity in a role similar?
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  You know, I don't know, man. It's either Penn State marshal
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  or somewhere like that. He actually did some work like
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  this back in Marshall and 2019. He's a one of the Villa Grotto.
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  He's another government. Exactly.
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  What's more important about this?
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  You know, obviously has a background relationship.
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  There is available in. Zoe moved on the immediately.
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  Back, filled his role that role isn't empty, we're in the past.
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  What are we seeing? We seeing somebody?
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  Leave a role. The role never gets filled.
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  Yep, that is what I like seeing on this.
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  Yeah, somebody would move up, or somebody would move on.
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  And then a roll with sit on occupied, at least in terms of
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  official announcement for months at a time.
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  Yeah, even if somebody was doing it for me, Lee or informally in
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  the interim. We wouldn't really actually have
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  Any sort of noted press release on this for four months and
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  months at a time and now we're getting it, you know right
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  shortly after you know things are going down on the on the
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  front end there. So that's that's a good thing.
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  They're definitely more consistent with the press
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  releases will consistent with communication.
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  Above all the staff off the field is organized, and
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  operating very true. And then, obviously, they added
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  one more. Let's see.
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  Rob Branch look first year and had done some time at West
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  Virginia state. So obviously a smaller School
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  plated, J mu. But again, we take a look at
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  that play. A Personnel room, and do we
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  lose? I'm trying to think that we lose
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  somebody few months ago, or is this an additional position to
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  that. That's a good question.
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  Let me see. We got Mike, we've got robbed
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  Alex and Lino. So, did they gain one today?
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  Used to be three out there used to be three.
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  I think it's for now. Okay.
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  If if somebody out there knows, please let us know because I
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  swear this was less than it was a few months ago I started I
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  just you know I need to keep an Excel spreadsheet and delete and
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  then we're is John Earl. We need him one more summer.
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  Rodriguez an assistance of Creative Media in.
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  Obviously, I'm gonna just say this, she, she's going to be
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  working with Zach, Lance tackle and has done a hell of a job
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  with the Creative Media stuff. I mean, get getting that man.
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  More help is going to make the product look even better.
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  She did some time as a graphic designer out at University of
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  Colorado, which is really Be cool and she was a student there
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  and she did she was a recruiting assistant in terms of obviously
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  Serena's got her foot in the door up football, but I just
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  love seeing Zack Steven grow because it's I feel like that
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  department in the last 18 months.
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  Has really just like just went through the roof, how things?
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  Look visually how the videos or cut.
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  It's awesome to see that. Yeah, and they and I really like
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  the the graphics that they have Pivoted to for the 23 class and
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  a lot of the other things they're doing as well, because I
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  feel like that it kind of gotten stale.
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  There was a lot of like, the 20-20-20 stuff that kind of bled
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  over into 20, 21 and 20 and 22 and it kind of got got same ish.
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  And I feel like this is kind of, I think the more hands on deck
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  is made the creative side of it a lot easier because when you
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  can When you have more hands, you can more easily Implement
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  different ideas without having to just plug in play to get to
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  get the job done. So, Abso-freakin'-lutely.
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  So again the support staff growing significantly in the
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  last few years, something we knew that had to happen for.
• 24:38
  That's awesome to see I Brown. Let's turn to the diamond real
• 24:41
  quick and have a quick look five Hokies get drafted for in the
• 24:46
  first five rounds, Gavin cross the diamond going number 9, to
• 24:52
  the Royals. Because I mean all year, he's a
• 24:56
  top ten pick, he's a top ten, pick it, it holds, True show
• 25:01
  will go 68 to the twins. Bisson, fourth round to the
• 25:05
  Dodgers. Kate hundred to the Reds and
• 25:07
  then Graham Arvid, I just put your debt name.
• 25:12
  I know. Sorry Graham.
• 25:14
  So you just admit your mistakes and you move on.
• 25:19
  There we go. Awesome to see that.
• 25:22
  Not only that couple of those really the first four guys are
• 25:27
  really going to get paid a significant amount of Gavin and
• 25:30
  Tanner are going to get a boat on money.
• 25:32
  No one slot. I know Gavin slots like five and
• 25:36
  a half. I want to say Tanner's or
• 25:37
  somewhere around too. Likely not going to get the full
• 25:41
  payment going to get a lot of money so great for them
• 25:43
  financially. But just in general for the
• 25:45
  program, you sit here and just two years ago.
• 25:50
  Team didn't even make the ACC tournament.
• 25:53
  They didn't make it this year. One of the best teams in the
• 25:57
  country and this is one of those things that can get you rolling,
• 26:01
  right? We had a great season and guys
• 26:04
  are getting drafted, it's an easy sell Yeah I think that's
• 26:09
  the big thing is that this is going to be a good seller.
• 26:11
  Recruiting Trails like hey you come here you know you're going
• 26:15
  to get a bump in your draft stock by coming here and
• 26:20
  spending time as a hokey and with baseball I think that
• 26:25
  that's such a big big thing with you know a lot of these kids
• 26:28
  getting some of them getting drafted out of high school and
• 26:32
  making the decision. Okay.
• 26:33
  Do I go Take the scholarship offer that I have do.
• 26:37
  I go ahead and try to give it a run in the minors.
• 26:41
  Hey, you come here, you spend 23 years here.
• 26:45
  You know, you're going to set yourself up for a better spot
• 26:50
  down the road. Yeah, and he, and nowadays in
• 26:53
  college baseball because of the draft only going to 20 rounds.
• 26:58
  It is significantly, helping keep players.
• 27:03
  Committed to their scholarship. So, how you recruit?
• 27:06
  Now, it's even more important because, you know, roughly only
• 27:10
  about 600 guys are getting drafted.
• 27:12
  A lot of them, you know, probably more than half of them.
• 27:15
  Maybe 60% or college guys, because they've already got the
• 27:18
  proven record versus the potential and high school guys,
• 27:23
  you know, which is really cool. So again that program building
• 27:29
  even though it's a non-revenue sport, it's Again, what do we
• 27:33
  always say? Brian, it's one of those sports
• 27:34
  like wrestling, probably getting close like women's basketball,
• 27:38
  where it pays for itself, more money back to football.
• 27:42
  Yeah, I mean, it's some prestige in that to I mean, this is, you
• 27:46
  know, College World Series. Conference playoffs.
• 27:51
  I mean a lot of these that those championships get a lot of air
• 27:55
  time. So it's not like you know, a lot
• 27:58
  of the sports that you might see on a random weekday on the SEC
• 28:04
  network. These are getting some some
• 28:08
  Primetime spots on ESPN, on ESPN2, on the SEC network.
• 28:14
  So it's important to to grow the sport in that, In to grow your
• 28:21
  your department in those words as well that are getting that
• 28:24
  are time, okay? All right, Brian, this is going
• 28:29
  to be a little segment this week.
• 28:32
  What really grinds Brian's gears?
• 28:35
  You have the floor sir. Okay, so you know we trash the
• 28:41
  NCAA pretty regularly on this show that's not a secret to
• 28:46
  anybody that's listening but this this is the thing that
• 28:51
  bothers me the most about the NCAA.
• 28:54
  So you know we're we're in a situation where you got Mass
• 28:58
  realignment, you got ni L, + IL stuff going on all crazy, the
• 29:04
  NCAA washes, their hands. But the the rules committee
• 29:10
  found it in their in their time to as they're looking at the
• 29:13
  game and try to figure out how to make the game better.
• 29:17
  If there was something that just was taking away from the quality
• 29:21
  of the game Polly of baseball and that is celebratory props on
• 29:27
  the field. So that means Hammer Time
• 29:34
  potentially is no more and It's just fucking stupid.
• 29:40
  It's still, it's stupid. There's no other way to say it.
• 29:43
  So why are, why is this thing? We're focusing on say it, moron,
• 29:48
  you're a moron. What are we doing?
• 29:52
  I mean, we get we get all of this stuff that we're going on.
• 29:58
  That you should be, you know, that you are a governing body
• 30:01
  that you should be focused on. And I'm not saying you can't
• 30:04
  focus on multiple things at one time, I get that.
• 30:07
  Yes, but when you're not handling, the big stuff.
• 30:10
  I can't take this small shit, seriously.
• 30:12
  Nope, they shot. You just bring the hammer out.
• 30:18
  What are they going to do? I mean, seriously, what are they
• 30:20
  going to do? They have no spine.
• 30:22
  They have no backbone. How many at this point called?
• 30:26
  They're bluffing, I mean, they really have no, no Authority
• 30:29
  anymore. What are you going to do?
• 30:32
  All right, Ron, let's turn it over to recruiting had a commit
• 30:37
  land on Monday, right above where we were heading over to
• 30:41
  Hardy would an RV a product at a Collegiate School.
• 30:48
  Christian William 62, 170 247, has him as a 87 3 star the
• 30:55
  number 14 player in the state at the moment.
• 31:00
  Ted currently sits 36 in both composite and overall and you
• 31:04
  know, just kind of having a look right now.
• 31:08
  This is our highest commit to date from the state of Virginia.
• 31:14
  Brian, I know you had a little time to Peak at him.
• 31:17
  What are we seeing from this? Again?
• 31:19
  Athlete lot, more athletes this year being recruited.
• 31:24
  Yeah, he's probably going to be a wide receiver for us, more
• 31:26
  than likely just looking at the Tate.
• 31:32
  You know pretty good route Runner.
• 31:35
  Not Elite Speed but good enough I really like that.
• 31:39
  We are targeting a lot of lot more guys that are that 61 and
• 31:43
  above. We get to get a little bit more
• 31:46
  range across the board and I like his hands.
• 31:51
  He has a pretty good hands. You shown the ability to go up
• 31:54
  and get a ball and high point it.
• 31:58
  Good job of catching over the middle.
• 32:00
  Not not, not afraid to get you over the middle leaving it. 170.
• 32:03
  So I like it, you know, it's not it's not a blow, your skirt up,
• 32:08
  get but you could get it's one of those things.
• 32:11
  That's keeping the train moving. Yeah.
• 32:14
  Keeps the train moves and good potential 24/7.
• 32:17
  Thanks a lot more of him than the rest of the recruiting
• 32:22
  service because he's down an eighty five.
• 32:23
  Seven two point eight, five seven so you kind of start doing
• 32:27
  the math there's somebody's out here is had him at like an 83
• 32:30
  and you know I think just from hearing you, he's not quite that
• 32:35
  low, he's not closer to a 2 Star than he is potential High 3.
• 32:40
  And Brian you just mentioned it. There only two guys in this
• 32:44
  thing of 16 that are under six foot tall and that's Thomas
• 32:49
  Williams, The Athlete down out of South Carolina and takehe
• 32:54
  that Highland Springs and everybody else.
• 32:58
  You know, Trail on Mitchell. We got out of Southern Nash, 6
• 33:01
  to avoid Copeland, at Appomattox 64, you know, dealing with a key
• 33:06
  down and Buford 61 Marcel 6. I mean that is a good thing to
• 33:12
  see and I also love seeing athlete because every time I see
• 33:17
  athlete it's usually you get labeled that when you do
• 33:21
  multiple things on a field, right?
• 33:22
  You're probably playing wideout a running back or quarterback,
• 33:26
  but you're doing something defensively and we've already
• 33:29
  seen in the early part of prize 10.
• 33:32
  Year, he's not afraid to just flip somebody, say you will be a
• 33:37
  better Corner than you will a wide receiver or you'll be a
• 33:41
  better safety, then you will be a core.
• 33:44
  You know, getting athletes with the lowercase, a is always a
• 33:47
  good thing. So, you know, in this case
• 33:50
  they've got to uppercase a, you get to you, get to find where
• 33:55
  they fit in your system. And when with a roster like
• 33:58
  ours, that has a lot of holes in different places.
• 34:02
  Getting guys with some of that flexibility and fluidity of
• 34:06
  position is not a bad thing. Not at all.
• 34:11
  All right, let's flip it. To basketball recruiting Brandon
• 34:17
  Rick Steiner. Commits that name had been
• 34:20
  popping up. A lot people have been dealing.
• 34:23
  Yeah, the Sun for us. Kids of the 90s and 2000's, the
• 34:30
  son of Big Poppa, Pump Scott, Steiner the nephew of the
• 34:35
  dog-faced gremlin Rick, Steiner, who say, what you want to say
• 34:39
  about pro wrestling. Those two guys want to get all
• 34:41
  Americans at Michigan. They were likely Jit football
• 34:43
  players are. Let's get badass.
• 34:45
  They were legit athletes. Yeah, he just went into an
• 34:48
  entertainment industry in. I always loved the Steiner
• 34:51
  Brothers, but 61 point guard, 185 pounds of top 10 player in
• 34:56
  Georgia, rated three star, but from everything you're reading
• 35:01
  this kid went from like nobody knew his name to being on
• 35:06
  everybody's radar, picking up a ton of commits like LSU offered.
• 35:13
  Miami Notre Dame Xavier, you know, Georgia Tech Kansas State,
• 35:19
  like some legit solid, you know, programs are offering him in,
• 35:24
  you know, the Hokies get in with Mike young.
• 35:26
  So, you know, again I've said it with this class.
• 35:32
  I mean, it's it holds true for basketball.
• 35:34
  Some of this is still Covid carry over in just not having a
• 35:39
  lot of tape and guys being under recruited and you're seeing a
• 35:44
  lot of big push at the last minute.
• 35:46
  Wants these guys start getting all the other teams Radars, this
• 35:50
  is what happened here. I mean her extender is
• 35:52
  essentially Padula 2.0 but you know, you didn't.
• 35:56
  You didn't get any. What?
• 35:58
  Sophomore film? You probably only got partial
• 36:01
  Junior film. So, yeah, so again, it helps in
• 36:08
  probably helps. The relationship was built early
• 36:11
  with him trying to see here real quick and see if we've got the
• 36:15
  official offered date. They don't have that on here,
• 36:20
  but could probably go back through this timeline.
• 36:22
  Figure it out. But again relationship, right?
• 36:26
  Yep, we get, it's every sport. And if you can get the
• 36:30
  relationships, A guy like this, who's under the radar, who blows
• 36:35
  up. You might have a chance of
• 36:37
  pulling it off. So awesome to see that.
• 36:40
  All right, one more piece, Brian here, the Hokey Hall of Fame,
• 36:45
  class of 2020, to has announced on a shout out through these
• 36:48
  three. Folks before we get to the for
• 36:49
  football players, the first tortilla happens on a three-time
• 36:54
  All-American. The second woman ever to win a
• 36:57
  National Championship at Virginia Tech or For AC tails
• 37:05
  are career three in hammer, throw one in weight, throw more
• 37:10
  seldom, Nikki, two national championships.
• 37:14
  Three appearances in the Olympics, third hokey to win
• 37:18
  multiple NCAA titles and 2012 in his weight throw championship
• 37:24
  and then Sarah Smith six-time ACC Champion All-American and 07
• 37:29
  as a swimming and Diving scholar athletes.
• 37:31
  The first of all, shout out to those. those Hokies who clearly,
• 37:34
  you know, apparently, you know, We kind of look at this and we
• 37:40
  think about you see 2007 in that you know, where we're building
• 37:46
  to get here. But let's talk about the guys
• 37:51
  that we all know and I want to start with Mike Gentry.
• 37:57
  Remember gentrified, remember hearing that back in the day you
• 37:59
  hear about, guys would go to Tech and get gentrified.
• 38:03
  Mike was a for his time was a revolutionary strength and
• 38:07
  conditioning coach. Yep.
• 38:09
  In all of us, who are a certain age when you started hearing
• 38:15
  about Gentry and what he did to some of the guys he made, A lot
• 38:21
  of those teams, what they were with his programs.
• 38:24
  When you talk about the, the development side of Virginia
• 38:29
  Tech and turning the two and three stars in to all Americans
• 38:33
  and NFL draft picks. It started with my Ginger damn,
• 38:38
  right? It did Mike still working, I
• 38:40
  think he's down at Emory & Henry now, but also to see him go into
• 38:43
  the Hall of Fame. All right?
• 38:45
  The next one, probably, if you're a football fan of any
• 38:48
  yell, regardless of Of tech, you know, Phantom or not Bruce,
• 38:54
  Arians goes in quarterback in the 1970s coached, a ton mean,
• 39:00
  came back coached, at Tech. I think for one year then
• 39:05
  obviously in the NFL coach to your beloved cold stare for a
• 39:08
  while run, I know that Ben Pittsburgh for a long spell
• 39:12
  there. As I was see, obviously Tampa.
• 39:16
  You have a couple stops here recently.
• 39:20
  That it had some success. So yeah, but I mean I love you
• 39:26
  know say what you want. Some people say well this is
• 39:29
  because he want a Super Bowl. Yeah.
• 39:31
  Smart universities if somebody wins a significant Something in
• 39:37
  their life. Even if they were not the best
• 39:40
  player on the field, you put them in the Hall of Fame.
• 39:41
  I don't give a damn. Yeah, and I mean if we're being
• 39:45
  honest though, I mean a lot of the The numbers that he held
• 39:49
  when he from his from his time stood up through Michael Vick.
• 39:53
  So a lot of those didn't fall until Vic got around there.
• 39:57
  So You know, there's something to be said, I know was a
• 40:01
  different era, you know, they don't necessarily stand out in
• 40:05
  the modern era. But, you know, there were some
• 40:08
  to be said for what he did in his time inside, just a career
• 40:14
  Achievement Award. That that's getting passed out
• 40:16
  here, but it definitely helps that he want.
• 40:19
  He turned around and won a Super Bowl as a coach in the NFL.
• 40:22
  Yeah. All right.
• 40:24
  Brian, a few minutes ago, you mentioned turning a tooth
• 40:27
  turning, a 2 Star. Into a All-American into a
• 40:33
  Benefield draft pick. Essentially, that's what Mike
• 40:36
  Gentry. Did to Kam.
• 40:37
  Chancellor of Chancellor was a two-star with three offers.
• 40:42
  Quarterback down. And he comes, Virginia Tech, he
• 40:47
  plays corner, he plays Rover, he's plays free.
• 40:50
  You know, two-time ACC Champion Super Bowl champion All-Pro,
• 40:56
  when he hits you, you knew it. And I mean, one of those guys,
• 41:01
  you know, in the in the late 2000s, man, you you kind of, you
• 41:06
  just kind of knew. Yeah, yeah, I mean that was, you
• 41:11
  know, when we talk about the personality of you be you, there
• 41:16
  are other guys that had Physical traits that stood out, but can
• 41:22
  was the guy that let his hitting do the talking, let his energy
• 41:27
  that he brought to the proceedings, do the talking.
• 41:32
  And it's nice to see him get in there especially after such a
• 41:38
  great NFL career you know essentially the Thunder of the
• 41:43
  legion of boom there. Yes he was to meet to be.
• 41:47
  Honestly he was the most important part of the legion of
• 41:49
  boom because if you don't have someone of his size when he got
• 41:54
  there he was like 64 225 who could play like a free safety
• 41:59
  hit like a linebacker could cover tight end running.
• 42:02
  That thing doesn't click. Don't get me wrong, Sherman was
• 42:07
  great Comics was great, but if you don't have him to put fear
• 42:12
  leads to boo, never is all right.
• 42:14
  Speaking of putting fear, I mean Vince Hall, man, or your starter
• 42:21
  44 consecutive game started, I mean him, and the DD still are
• 42:26
  to me the prototypical, Mike and backer in the system.
• 42:32
  Yep. And even the system we have.
• 42:34
  Now, if you, if you told Brent pry, he could find an Executor
• 42:37
  and events in next year's class. He take them in a heartbeat,
• 42:41
  something more impressive. He did to me, you don't see this
• 42:44
  happen when he won The Dudley in 06.
• 42:47
  Best 8-ball bestie one player in the state of Virginia.
• 42:49
  He was a you don't see defensive guys, get that even guys who
• 42:53
  gets a ton of tackles and less and less their own like special
• 42:56
  teams and their running back. Punk and kickers.
• 42:58
  Exactly. That's usually the only way you
• 43:00
  see that happen. Exactly.
• 43:03
  I mean but you know, this this was the years he played where
• 43:08
  the years we were We were games every year, we will constantly
• 43:14
  in front of that TV or multiple games every year we were
• 43:16
  multiple watching. We were watching multiple games
• 43:18
  together at home in the dorm room in the apartment apartment.
• 43:23
  So we were wondering, why, why did we start doing this at 12
• 43:27
  today? You know, why not in, you know,
• 43:32
  again, it's just one of those things.
• 43:35
  I'm glad he got his due, but you go through, there's Ben.
• 43:40
  Just a handful of folks, to win the dull, awarded a defensive
• 43:44
  players and the names, you know, add up.
• 43:47
  So I'm really glad to see they put Vince Hall in the Hall of
• 43:49
  Fame. He is well deserved of it man.
• 43:52
  Absolutely. I run for we start talking about
• 43:56
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• 44:25
  right, so Monday was the Hokie tailgate at Hardy would hear in
• 44:31
  the RBA being Brian talked a couple times.
• 44:34
  Say hey, let's try to, you know, get out there about 20, 25 4:45
• 44:41
  We thought we were going to beat the traffic or did we beat the
• 44:44
  traffic scratch that scratch that oh yeah we got there.
• 44:50
  We were they were parking across the street and we were about two
• 44:54
  thirds of the way down that lot when we got there.
• 44:56
  So Hokies were out in full force.
• 45:01
  I don't know where the official numbers are, but I know they
• 45:03
  were north of 1000. I think they were close to 1500.
• 45:07
  So that's a damn good showing for for Hokie Nation out here in
• 45:10
  the r-va. I'll ask you first impressions
• 45:15
  of the event. Well, the first impression is
• 45:18
  event, just walking after we parked and we're walking up,
• 45:20
  they had shuttles. So you did not have to walk
• 45:23
  completely from the parking lot but just walking up.
• 45:26
  It was a told brine it brought me back.
• 45:29
  It felt like we were walking up from prices for it.
• 45:32
  When we were younger, we used tailgate down there and going up
• 45:34
  to the stadium. You just had this feel.
• 45:36
  It's a it's a different energy going on in Hokie Nation right
• 45:40
  now with everything. Been done since November of last
• 45:43
  year, no, you, there's buzz in the air.
• 45:46
  There's, you know, there's just this feeling that things might
• 45:51
  get back to the way it was in. That's that was my feeling going
• 45:56
  in and when you just saw, how many folks were there and I
• 45:58
  mean, we, you know, just people seen excited and I know you can
• 46:03
  see every year were football, season, people are going to be
• 46:05
  excited but it's just it's just different this year than it has
• 46:08
  been over the last really last 23 years.
• 46:11
  Cheers. Yeah, I think there's some
• 46:13
  there's some fire back in the program.
• 46:15
  I think there's enthusiasm and I think there's you know, it's
• 46:19
  mixed with cautious optimism. I think there's not very many
• 46:25
  people that think we're going to have a very good team this year.
• 46:27
  I think there's some some people that think will win 8 games.
• 46:32
  Maybe most most people are more in the 527 range or like make a
• 46:38
  bowl, you know, maybe get one. Extra one in there and see what
• 46:45
  happens. I think that's realistic
• 46:47
  considering our schedule and considering, you know, some of
• 46:50
  the pickups we had in the offseason in the portal and some
• 46:54
  of the some of the freshmen that are going to be coming up and
• 46:57
  step it up this year. So it's going to be interesting.
• 46:59
  But there is a buzz that I haven't seen.
• 47:04
  So I'll say this, I went to Hardy would for the Country Club
• 47:10
  North Carolina game. So yeah, last year, first game
• 47:13
  of the season, like there was enthusiasm for it just because
• 47:17
  it was like, all right? Everybody's out kind of for the
• 47:20
  first time in a long time. Yeah, we're football related
• 47:23
  event but there was not a lot of excitement in terms of what was
• 47:30
  going to happen. A lot of people were very, very
• 47:33
  nervous about that game. Obviously, it went our way.
• 47:37
  We played, played a good game. Game kept it clean and then that
• 47:44
  really kind of helped helped help carry the day but there's a
• 47:50
  different type of enthusiasm there there isn't.
• 47:53
  As much holding our breath that, you know.
• 47:58
  Yeah, disaster is around the corner.
• 48:00
  Absolutely. And that's the feel you got.
• 48:02
  There you again, it's the renewed sense of hope.
• 48:05
  It's like a spring. The nation is review renewed and
• 48:09
  when you know when hearing prop talk which will talk about just
• 48:13
  a couple minutes, you'll understand why?
• 48:16
  But let's talk real quick. We got to talk to Bud Foster for
• 48:19
  a compliment. It's and we talked about
• 48:20
  boundary Corner. We are not going to mention what
• 48:22
  he said because we want to have, but on the show one day.
• 48:27
  But let's just say it was very interesting as we started
• 48:29
  talking about players Bud, was in, is in full retirement mode.
• 48:33
  I am. Now, I'm weird 30 years. 35
• 48:37
  years from retirement, the way, everything's going nowadays, but
• 48:41
  I hope I'm like, Bud and living my best life.
• 48:43
  Like, he was one thing that my man was living his best life.
• 48:47
  He had folks Preen and drinks. He was in head-to-head, the the
• 48:52
  linen pants and the like Hawaiian shirt be t-shirt on
• 48:57
  like he was, he was full lounging and I looked at it, I
• 49:02
  was like, man if I'm retiring like that And I'm doing all
• 49:06
  right, because I had to get some retirement tips.
• 49:10
  Like, you know, what's the secret?
• 49:12
  Because, yeah, he looks like he's doing it.
• 49:13
  The best doing it, the best and the coolest part about.
• 49:16
  But if you've never been harder, when he was literally in this,
• 49:18
  the middle of it and then if you wanted to walk up and have him
• 49:22
  sign something, I saw him sign a couple things, he take your
• 49:25
  picture, we snapped one with them, of course. and just being
• 49:29
  him masseter out there like, you know, sometimes you see folks
• 49:36
  You know, better famous in public and I don't want to
• 49:39
  bother him, it seemed like Bud was there to talk to any hokey
• 49:43
  that wanted to talk to him about anything and anywhere.
• 49:46
  He was ready to shake all the hands and kiss all the babies,
• 49:48
  he has ready to go and he was fired up to support private was
• 49:55
  fired at the sort of support the program.
• 49:56
  So that was that was big. It was big and a guy like that
• 50:01
  there that because he didn't have to come to that one.
• 50:05
  No, he did not. Not and especially, you know,
• 50:07
  when was what Roanoke? He didn't have to come to our
• 50:10
  VA. You never come to our VA
• 50:11
  especially when you hear Mike young had to plane which game
• 50:15
  three and a half hour drive. Actually four hour drive because
• 50:19
  he's down at Crater Lake. So long drive back home.
• 50:23
  He had a big look, big drive back, he wasn't a, it wasn't an
• 50:26
  hour flight for him. Nope.
• 50:28
  All right. Next, you know we had whipped
• 50:32
  come up and talk with believe it or not, got actually a good
• 50:35
  ovation. Some people's feelings of wit
• 50:39
  might not like him but, you know, talk it's big.
• 50:43
  So I think a lot of people feel good about Whit not talking
• 50:46
  about football, but when we talk about football, you know, people
• 50:49
  get tight bundles about with, so yeah?
• 50:51
  Yeah, in fact and fair enough. I mean they've got reason for
• 50:56
  that. I mean there has been You know,
• 50:59
  missteps on that side of things. He well let's go back.
• 51:04
  First of all, his first missed up was made when he got here
• 51:06
  instead of addressing football up front.
• 51:08
  He addressed everything else. People can see what you want to
• 51:12
  say about the for when they hire at that point in time.
• 51:14
  That was a literally a top-three tire.
• 51:17
  Don't get it twisted, the 2020 2020.
• 51:23
  Yeah. The 2020 is worse than the
• 51:25
  higher itself. Yeah.
• 51:27
  If your Pointed to things to complain to with about extending
• 51:32
  Fuente too early. Yes not getting rid of him in
• 51:34
  2020. Those are the two two biggest
• 51:37
  things that you can criticize with about aside from not
• 51:40
  addressing football sooner, but also give him credit.
• 51:44
  When things went sideways in 2018, readjusting his plan and
• 51:48
  getting the facilities. Updated getting, 'if a
• 51:52
  fast-track, the stuff that had to be fast tracking if you
• 51:54
  wanted to actually build things out, and he did, Again, we're
• 51:59
  probably about one year behind where we should be with Coach.
• 52:01
  Whether that ended up netting, us prai or Shane or Tony yelling
• 52:04
  or whoever the hell it would have been exactly what we're
• 52:08
  about one year behind on the rebuild.
• 52:10
  But aside from that the other stuff that when he, when he
• 52:14
  finally got around to it, he's putting it together the way it
• 52:17
  needs to, and he did it. Obviously, we all want things to
• 52:20
  happen yesterday because we care about the team being something
• 52:25
  to us and with all this stuff going on.
• 52:28
  On with realignment and ni L. We feel like we don't want to be
• 52:33
  one of those teams is Left Behind.
• 52:34
  We don't want to be the leftovers.
• 52:36
  Now I don't want to be leftovers at all and he addressed it.
• 52:38
  No talking about how complex the situation is.
• 52:41
  Realignment is said, it's something that now is a
• 52:44
  conversation every day in merryman about his previous top
• 52:48
  Cincinnati. It was a conversation every day
• 52:51
  there, so obviously it is up on his mind on the Forefront.
• 52:55
  He mentioned honest. I alongs with, you know,
• 52:58
  commissioner Phillips. I'd like to hear what that
• 53:00
  honest dialogue is. I hope it's listen as soon as we
• 53:04
  can. We going to leave unless you do
• 53:05
  something a lot better and you need to get some more markets in
• 53:09
  here. That solidifying, our position
• 53:11
  need to get better meteorites or in three to five years.
• 53:16
  You're looking at having fewer members of this conference if
• 53:20
  things line up. Yeah, exactly.
• 53:23
  If you're not, I mean, at some point, we got to light a fire
• 53:26
  under the Commissioners a stew. Because I know he understands
• 53:30
  the situation but if he's not getting pressure every day.
• 53:34
  Yes then in especially from schools like Virginia Tech.
• 53:39
  It doesn't matter if Florida State or Clemson or Miami or
• 53:46
  even you know UNC or in ceased. I mean most of those schools are
• 53:50
  probably going to find a home in whatever the new world looks
• 53:54
  like. It's The Fringe schools like
• 53:57
  Virginia. Tech like UVA like Louisville.
• 54:01
  Like Georgia Tech that have good markets, but, you know, have
• 54:08
  some shortcomings in terms of where their programs are at the
• 54:11
  time that they're going to probably need a little bit of a
• 54:15
  boost and if we're not pushing for it, then that gives us more
• 54:19
  potential to get left behind exactly.
• 54:22
  All right. Something else he address talk
• 54:24
  about while Brent prowls. The guy, you know, made the
• 54:26
  comments that he The initial bar, one of the initial goals
• 54:29
  honours list would also made the comment that he needed, Virginia
• 54:33
  Tech how to get back to the defensive mentality which was,
• 54:37
  you know very very good to hear from him because you think
• 54:42
  Virginia Tech you think defense you know the one thing in this
• 54:47
  was the ultimate shot right here.
• 54:51
  Everything is better under Brent.
• 54:54
  Yeah, I mean, yeah, and I mean he's not wrong, I mean, but like
• 55:00
  that's just he didn't say it, but he basically back in should
• 55:04
  have just went to a with that like, everything that I'm sorry.
• 55:08
  And I'll Circle back to the defensive mentality.
• 55:10
  Because when we look at the teams, That are consistently
• 55:15
  winning the national championship and consistently
• 55:19
  going to the college football, playoff true.
• 55:22
  Yes. They do have some good offenses
• 55:24
  in there. It's particularly looking at
• 55:26
  like Ohio State you know Oregon but all of them play either very
• 55:33
  good or nasty defense. Yep.
• 55:37
  Right. I mean, we do you think a
• 55:39
  Clemson we think of Ohio State, when we think of ago, when we
• 55:42
  think of Bammel Bama obviously. And any of the other guys in the
• 55:47
  conversation, when you think of them, you think of Defense first
• 55:51
  and everything else is secondary.
• 55:53
  Ohio State might be the only one that's probably in the, you
• 55:56
  know, more or less balanced in that category.
• 55:59
  Maybe but I mean thing, I mean, nasty and mean both of those
• 56:03
  young. Oh yeah.
• 56:04
  I mean I'm saying hey Emily, they have a lead.
• 56:06
  Offense and an elite defense. They're just not they're not
• 56:10
  stepping it quite up as much as like a Bama on the defensive
• 56:13
  side, I got you. All right.
• 56:14
  Well, the other thing, he's talked about everything has to
• 56:17
  be built, right? We agree with that you because
• 56:20
  again, I think he saw what happened in 16.
• 56:23
  He did not build it right. He, he extended somebody too
• 56:27
  early. He gave somebody too much leash,
• 56:30
  so it has to be built, right? And he hates the gave him so
• 56:35
  much lead. Is that he continuously hung
• 56:37
  himself by not getting rid of personnel?
• 56:41
  That were not up to par? Yeah.
• 56:44
  Now, Brian, you love what he said on the ni L you love when
• 56:48
  he said, uh, Sadie's, hold the NCAA, this entail shit, it's
• 56:54
  going to affect recruiting and they basically brush them off.
• 56:59
  The NCAA continues to just stick their thumb up their ass on a
• 57:03
  lot of the stuff, the NCAA had over a decade to figure this
• 57:09
  out. They got to a point.
• 57:11
  They got to a point where State started passing laws.
• 57:15
  So once so they kick the can down the road.
• 57:18
  Now, what states are passing laws?
• 57:19
  Now, they are worried about if we put in stuff now, are we open
• 57:25
  ourselves up to lawsuits? So now they got scared in the
• 57:28
  laws. Suits that are like, well, if
• 57:29
  we're going to do this, we just got to have Open Season.
• 57:33
  And now you got Open Season and of course, it's being used to
• 57:35
  recruit players what you think he was going to do like zactly.
• 57:39
  But I just love hit like, it sounds like the ades are out
• 57:42
  there like, trying to push this like get this done.
• 57:45
  It's gonna Peck things and they didn't do anything.
• 57:48
  So put a, put a reasonable plan out there instead of just
• 57:52
  saying, all right. Well, this is this is the thing
• 57:56
  now. Exactly figure out how it's
• 57:58
  going to be implemented within your state legislator within
• 58:02
  your conference Within. School, like it's just a
• 58:05
  cluster, and it varies from state line to State Line and in
• 58:08
  terms of what what teams are doing.
• 58:10
  It varies from school to school and various from conference to
• 58:13
  conference and it's not just about the dollars, it's about
• 58:16
  what is and is not permissible because again, the NCAA didn't
• 58:20
  give enough guidance. Exactly.
• 58:23
  All right, you know he did talk about got to be miles within a
• 58:27
  oh, we'll see how that plays out.
• 58:29
  But let's talk about events in a few thing on Game Day experience
• 58:31
  has he said the Wi-Fi, Is going to be slightly better in Lane he
• 58:35
  got he got class. Yeah I need I need a definition
• 58:39
  of that. One day, one percent would be
• 58:43
  better than zero or negative so I'll give him that.
• 58:46
  He also said that the the restrooms the pictures are going
• 58:49
  to be better - in peace. Troughs, no no, no trolls are
• 58:53
  fine. You really want to make the
• 58:56
  bathrooms better, put some TVs in there on the wall.
• 59:01
  So if it's, you know, the third quarter, And we're driving or or
• 59:06
  you know we just punted the ball.
• 59:07
  I don't worry about running to the pisser and missing the game
• 59:11
  because if you as you know you go through the the walkways and
• 59:14
  go get a beer, so I'm not a big ol bear now or get some food
• 59:18
  their TVs there. You can see the plays you don't
• 59:21
  miss anything. Except you know, that feeling I
• 59:24
  want to be able to go to the bathroom and if it's a longer
• 59:26
  line, if I'm in there taking a piss, I can still see what's
• 59:31
  happening on the field. That's all I ask for after two
• 59:34
  TVs, on each side, where the troughs are exactly as you walk
• 59:38
  in one above the trough, if you got to go into the Stalls where
• 59:42
  you just shit out of luck. And one when you exit and you're
• 59:46
  shitting, so you definitely ought to look.
• 59:48
  You definitely have you might as well as nobody wants to shit and
• 59:50
  Lane Stadium. Let's go.
• 59:52
  Nobody wants to shit in any public safety and just being
• 59:55
  honest about it. Diagonally.
• 59:57
  All right, so with cheered, most of the night and then he got the
• 1:00:00
  boot, the end when he said, stick it in would not be back.
• 1:00:05
  Yeah. What the hell?
• 1:00:08
  Why are we? Why are we still doing this?
• 1:00:09
  Why are we why we're still? We're still kicking.
• 1:00:14
  Well, you know, it's your nasty mind.
• 1:00:18
  If you're thinking that way, I'm trying to put the ball in the
• 1:00:21
  end zone. People, what are you where are
• 1:00:22
  you? Where is your mind?
• 1:00:23
  Go, we are in the Red Zone. Trying to get the ball in the
• 1:00:28
  end zone for a touchdown. Where are your minds at All you
• 1:00:32
  people complain about it. Where are your minds at?
• 1:00:36
  I've heard that since 2003 and I'll ever thought about it.
• 1:00:39
  Oh, we're down here. We're about to get it in, we're
• 1:00:42
  about to score. None of this other stuff you
• 1:00:44
  guys mentioned. So clearly those who are against
• 1:00:47
  it are pervs, that's one way to sell it Curtis.
• 1:00:55
  Okay, it needs were in the red zone.
• 1:01:00
  That's what it means. It means we're about to stick it
• 1:01:05
  in to the residence. Exactly.
• 1:01:08
  All right, let's talk about Brent pry, and him up on stage
• 1:01:12
  with my keeper of who we got to meet and talk to about five
• 1:01:14
  minutes. Mikey, burn up is awesome.
• 1:01:18
  He's bad, dude. He is that dude.
• 1:01:20
  Like, he is the guy, like, if you say, you know, Game Day
• 1:01:25
  weekend you could spend time with, you know, any personality.
• 1:01:29
  I know he's in the A booth the game but Mike just seems like
• 1:01:32
  the guy who owns it, he was walking around.
• 1:01:35
  Look like he owned the place. He's like 70 years old.
• 1:01:38
  He looks, 55 looks in great shape.
• 1:01:44
  We gotta love my like burning, man.
• 1:01:47
  You just got to. Yeah, he was tearing it up.
• 1:01:50
  We had to talk to about five minutes.
• 1:01:53
  Got got to tell him that. He's good, buddy, Wes says,
• 1:01:56
  hello. So yeah, he was, he was excited
• 1:01:59
  about that and But I love my keeper McMahon and hopefully
• 1:02:04
  every day I think. Now every of the Poke of, then I
• 1:02:06
  go to, I'm trying to find my government.
• 1:02:08
  Talk to him for five minutes. Yeah, I definitely he's one of
• 1:02:12
  the guys that you do. You can have a beer with and
• 1:02:14
  just talk about not just hokey sports but just like anything in
• 1:02:19
  general. Like he's that guy that's going
• 1:02:20
  to have that conversation with you.
• 1:02:22
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:02:23
  Well let's talk about another guy.
• 1:02:26
  You want to share a beer with Brent pry gets up on stage and
• 1:02:30
  it's it's immediate the energy. It's a joke, it's on Twitter,
• 1:02:36
  didn't Chad she he gets it and he does get it.
• 1:02:39
  This guy gets it this get he's up there horse himself a beer on
• 1:02:44
  stage you know just you know been here eight months brings
• 1:02:50
  out his wife to introduce a cheers of the crowd, taking a
• 1:02:54
  panoramic selfie of the crowd and sending it to recruits.
• 1:02:57
  I mean And, you know, he talked about, he knew that this was the
• 1:03:02
  space because it was the fandom and that was his cell point in,
• 1:03:08
  you know, it didn't feel like a cell point though.
• 1:03:10
  It felt like it was a genuine response from him.
• 1:03:14
  And I mean, he was just having fun up there.
• 1:03:17
  Yep. During that interview portion,
• 1:03:19
  he was having a good time here. Like I said, said, drinking
• 1:03:22
  beer, What I've noticed and I hate to juxtapose this with with
• 1:03:29
  Flint a just because, you know, I think we kicked we've kicked
• 1:03:33
  the dog enough at this point, but we have the same people.
• 1:03:37
  He's previous, guys, you gotta be a comparison but at the same
• 1:03:40
  time when we look at an event like this and we had this like
• 1:03:45
  Q&A session with burn up, right? So he's up on stage.
• 1:03:48
  He's up there with burning up there talking But pry is.
• 1:03:53
  I'd say leading the discussion just as much as my key is.
• 1:03:57
  It wasn't my key directing him where to go ask them the
• 1:04:01
  question getting the can answer moving on.
• 1:04:04
  Like Coach problems up there to talk and to interact with the
• 1:04:10
  crowd and then also he was going to answer some questions.
• 1:04:14
  That might burn a pad form. Yep.
• 1:04:18
  And you could tell that from from the jump, I mean the the
• 1:04:21
  energy was just completely different.
• 1:04:25
  Exactly. And that's what it was.
• 1:04:27
  It was I'm not here to answer questions.
• 1:04:30
  I'm here to talk to the fans. It wasn't this wasn't an I'm
• 1:04:36
  just here so I don't get fine situation this very very much.
• 1:04:40
  You know I'm here I'm selling the program, I'm selling the
• 1:04:44
  program so I can sell the program to recruits.
• 1:04:47
  It's all cyclical. When it all feeds into what we
• 1:04:51
  want as a team to Get to right? So I think I think he
• 1:04:57
  understands that it's, it's a multi-pronged like being a head
• 1:05:01
  coach, has a multi-prong thing. It's not just I've got to be
• 1:05:04
  good at managing a game. I've got to be good at
• 1:05:08
  understanding X's and O's. It's not just that it's so much
• 1:05:13
  else and I think he understands those those aspects of it and he
• 1:05:17
  did a good job of selling those things to the people that were
• 1:05:21
  there. And I think a lot of it.
• 1:05:23
  As you said it's not just selling its that's just how
• 1:05:27
  that's his personality. He's a very energetic guy and
• 1:05:31
  you said it too, he seems to understand.
• 1:05:36
  When he's talking to people how to talk to people, right?
• 1:05:40
  That's it and that goes. Because if you remember what he
• 1:05:44
  was talking about, you know, he talked about how he convinced
• 1:05:46
  his family, that this was the right move, they sons
• 1:05:49
  transferred to take from Penn State since then, but then he
• 1:05:52
  talked about his first, real job was recruiting the staff.
• 1:05:56
  And is we start looking at this staff you know especially on the
• 1:06:01
  offensive side of the ball? Yeah talking about Joe Rudolph
• 1:06:04
  talking about Tyler, moans do Holt.
• 1:06:06
  Fontelle mines, convincing them. You can see it.
• 1:06:10
  And you know, you look at those guys and you start hearing
• 1:06:13
  important, they are a plethora of different personalities.
• 1:06:17
  Yeah. And I think that's a bigger
• 1:06:18
  cell. It's because I think in general
• 1:06:22
  top to bottom. Do you like the offensive staff
• 1:06:25
  better than the defensive staff? How do you feel about the
• 1:06:29
  offensive staff? The offensive staff?
• 1:06:34
  Man, I do like the offensive staff more than the defensive
• 1:06:38
  staff. Just because as I start looking
• 1:06:41
  not to knock the defensive staff, don't get me wrong
• 1:06:44
  between, you know, between JC Mar cheetah and prioleau.
• 1:06:49
  You've got a lot of years experience.
• 1:06:51
  Don't forget Quinn and Quinn, it's only about Quinn.
• 1:06:56
  I mean, we're not twins had some recruiting wins.
• 1:06:59
  Wins breaking bread hokey Style, I need to quit their Monday
• 1:07:06
  night when we were in those wings and pizza to give us a
• 1:07:08
  review of those. Yeah, means and pizza but but
• 1:07:11
  when you look at it, you look at that defensive staff.
• 1:07:14
  It's I'm gonna laugh, that's a hokie defense of Staff.
• 1:07:19
  That's a super bright linebacker coach.
• 1:07:21
  It's I mean, he's basically the same age Bud was when he took
• 1:07:25
  over the job. That is a grinder defensive line
• 1:07:28
  coach think about Charlie wild, think about some of those guys
• 1:07:32
  that's our mole, right? That's our mold.
• 1:07:35
  But then think about the offensive staff in, you know,
• 1:07:39
  especially Joe Rudolph and I love the white Vic because
• 1:07:42
  Dwight bic is looking at Joe Rudolph and he C JB G. + JB G
• 1:07:47
  was the online coach back in the 90s who sort of, when we were
• 1:07:50
  power on the ball. Kenny, oxendine and mashing
• 1:07:54
  people, he was that guy, look at him.
• 1:07:57
  Look at bone, you know, still hope left Louisville and one of
• 1:08:00
  his good friends to come to Brent pry.
• 1:08:04
  Yep, it's this feel of. That's what our defensive staff
• 1:08:08
  is. Always look like.
• 1:08:09
  And it's the looking at the offensive staff is like it's
• 1:08:12
  never looked like this. It's never looked like this.
• 1:08:16
  And Lord hasn't looked like this in a long, long time.
• 1:08:19
  No. And I think that's that's a
• 1:08:22
  difference is because from a recruiting standpoint, if you're
• 1:08:25
  recruiting a staff, He had a harder sell getting offensive
• 1:08:30
  guys to come here. Then he would defensive some
• 1:08:32
  guys because he is an established defensive coach.
• 1:08:34
  He's one of the probably five best defensive coordinators in
• 1:08:37
  the country as last year and you know he was saying all right.
• 1:08:44
  I'm a deep. I'm a defensive minded.
• 1:08:45
  Head coach come coach defense. For me.
• 1:08:48
  That's not his heart of a cell as it is.
• 1:08:51
  Hey, I'm a first-time head coach in my 50s.
• 1:08:54
  That's a defensive specialist. Come coach offense for me.
• 1:08:58
  Exactly. And it just shows you how the
• 1:09:02
  guy can talk to people. Because he convinced you guys to
• 1:09:07
  come and I mean, I'll say this, I mean and, you know, I know
• 1:09:10
  there's other coaches that are like this out there saving for
• 1:09:13
  one, obviously, but But you know, Brent doesn't seem like a
• 1:09:17
  guy that's in his early 50s. He's guys a lot more fire in the
• 1:09:23
  belly than a lot of guys that are that age under percent.
• 1:09:28
  So and I tell you something that he really had a fire passion
• 1:09:32
  about was talking about Virginia recruiting Because when he made
• 1:09:36
  that statement that if we don't know most about Virginia
• 1:09:38
  recruits were not doing it right.
• 1:09:42
  I mean, we hear that we see how we've recruited Virginia this
• 1:09:46
  year and it looks like, you know, he's still parking players
• 1:09:50
  from Virginia, you know, the the whole Regional footprint recruit
• 1:09:57
  just it's not bullshit. It it is literally that is his
• 1:10:01
  game plan because he feels like if he can win this state and
• 1:10:04
  when the outer that six hour radius and get good players,
• 1:10:08
  it's going to be the best case. Scenario to rebuild the
• 1:10:12
  program's. What it was.
• 1:10:13
  Yeah. And when we look at the the top
• 1:10:17
  25 players are so in Virginia in this cycle you know?
• 1:10:23
  Other schools definitely had a head start on us.
• 1:10:26
  We're making our hey, in that, you know, 12 to 22 range, 12 to
• 1:10:32
  25 range, that's where we're making our.
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  Hey, right now, in terms of, in terms of recruits, we, you know,
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  looking forward, we got to get back in the top 10 and I think
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  some of that starts with, you know, and he made an emphasis
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  he's like we gotta we gotta get Penn State out of this damn
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  State. We got to get UNC out of this
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  state. We got to keep more of these
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  Virginia kids home and you know he was he was a part of doing a
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  lot of that making that ground up in Virginia.
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  So I mean he understands what it takes.
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  I'm hoping he can get the job done as we look to the the 24 in
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  the 25 classes coming up the next two years but he knows, he
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  knows the blueprint. He just we got to see if we can.
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  He can execute it, right? Absolutely, it's something else
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  talking about. Ooh, print and his leadership
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  styles. He talked a little bit about the
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  Bristol Retreat, which we hit on when it happened about a week
• 1:11:29
  after it happened, but something that he said, said in there
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  again, we knew that we heard about.
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  He wanted everybody on the same page, same language the same
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  thing. So if you walk from Pharrell,
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  you know, bones office to, you know, gouveia Windows Office,
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  they're preaching the same things.
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  That was the first big thing, but the other big thing was this
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  and I don't know if you caught it, but it, but it turned my
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  Because, what kind of leader is, he talked about?
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  He did a lot of the talking and he said, next year, when we do
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  this, I don't not, I do not want that.
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  I want to hear from everybody, because they took everybody,
• 1:12:07
  which is crazy, literally, everybody.
• 1:12:09
  But, but when you hear that, in a guy of a leadership position,
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  those guys usually, you know, as long as they take what they hear
• 1:12:21
  from everyone under them, Em and start figuring out how to work
• 1:12:25
  it and how to make everybody else successful.
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  Usually those guys are the most successful guys.
• 1:12:30
  Yep. If you can drive that culture
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  and you can have that, that very much top-down message, where
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  what you hear from the top guys. The same thing that you're
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  hearing from the player Personnel guy or even the video
• 1:12:45
  guy or like, if the message is the same in the message is
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  consistent. Then the behaviors are going to
• 1:12:52
  be the same way. And I'm done by the behaviors of
• 1:12:54
  the players. Yeah.
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  Whether that's getting extra work in.
• 1:12:58
  Whether that understanding The Playbook understanding, what you
• 1:13:02
  need to do in certain scenarios whether that's getting an extra
• 1:13:05
  workout, staying after practice, all those things, those little
• 1:13:11
  things that drive the culture add up and getting that
• 1:13:17
  consistent messaging. That consistent way of things
• 1:13:21
  being taught and Is being emphasized is going to be
• 1:13:24
  important going forward. Because if you don't get the
• 1:13:27
  foundation of that, right? For the culture, then you're
• 1:13:30
  going to start seeing cracks. And I think that's, that's some
• 1:13:33
  of what happened with the previous regime.
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  Is that there wasn't a culture, there wasn't a foundation.
• 1:13:39
  It was just a collection of ideas that eventually fell
• 1:13:42
  apart. And it's also the thing of what
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  we talked about before, they were there to coach and nothing
• 1:13:50
  else. And with this staff, you kind of
• 1:13:52
  see it. They're not there to just coach.
• 1:13:54
  They understand coaching is the most important part of our job
• 1:13:59
  but it's not the only part of our job.
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  And I'm not talking about teaching the young men and you
• 1:14:04
  know, helping them prepare for themselves in life, but
• 1:14:07
  understanding your part of a larger Community, I think that's
• 1:14:11
  what this coaching group gets more than anything.
• 1:14:13
  No Brian, let's jump over to this because I want to, I want
• 1:14:17
  to, I want to get your thoughts first.
• 1:14:20
  He talked about it IO talked about a lot of things on a nail,
• 1:14:24
  which one it you the most listening to him.
• 1:14:29
  So I think him being a realist about the ni L situation for
• 1:14:34
  Blacksburg. What was the thing because I
• 1:14:40
  don't think he could have went in there and said, we're going
• 1:14:42
  to be the the unc's and the Miami's and the Clemson's on
• 1:14:49
  this ni L thing out the gate. I think that's the goal.
• 1:14:52
  But I don't think that's something that we're going to
• 1:14:56
  get to right away. And he said that he doesn't want
• 1:15:00
  in il to be. The reason that a player picks
• 1:15:01
  Virginia Tech and I get that, I think there might be situations.
• 1:15:06
  Oceans Where there would be an exception to that depending on
• 1:15:10
  the player, depending on their caliber, especially for an
• 1:15:12
  in-state player. But in most terms, I don't want
• 1:15:18
  a player to pick Virginia Tech just because they are giving the
• 1:15:22
  largest in il. I, but as he said, we must be
• 1:15:26
  competitive. We got to be in the ballpark.
• 1:15:29
  So if somebody's getting something from from pit, we got
• 1:15:35
  to say, all right, here's what we can offer from an ni L
• 1:15:39
  perspective from from from these collectives here, but we also
• 1:15:44
  sell in the University as well. And you know, when we talk about
• 1:15:50
  the reason, the player pick something in il definitely is
• 1:15:52
  going to be in the discussion, but there's got it wrong.
• 1:15:54
  It's going to be a piece of the pie, right?
• 1:15:56
  He can't even some player, some players, it's a, it's a big.
• 1:15:59
  Bigger piece, and some of the smaller, it can't be half the
• 1:16:02
  pie, but, but it needs to leave, you know, we know it's going to
• 1:16:05
  be in there somewhere. Well, he said we got to be
• 1:16:08
  competitive in it and he said and he just straight up called
• 1:16:12
  out fans, old and young. The line basically said, you've
• 1:16:15
  got to support the athletes in some way.
• 1:16:18
  And, you know, we saw today with Triumph and IL with Dax Dwayne,
• 1:16:24
  Caleb. Who my missing?
• 1:16:26
  I'm missing somebody. Everything efforting.
• 1:16:33
  Yeah. And I think, as you're speaking
• 1:16:34
  on that, I think the big thing that they've been focused on
• 1:16:37
  this offseason within IL is more of Take care of you.
• 1:16:40
  The guys that are on your roster right now.
• 1:16:43
  Yep. Malaga Malaga.
• 1:16:44
  I got delicate with. Yeah.
• 1:16:47
  So I think I think that's been the focus.
• 1:16:50
  This offseason is kind of taking care of some of that because
• 1:16:53
  there wasn't that type of foundation put in place it was
• 1:16:57
  very much a it seemed like before it was like here are some
• 1:17:03
  tools to help you within IL but it was very much a, your own
• 1:17:06
  your own in terms of what you are able to do with it.
• 1:17:10
  And now we've got collectives that the school is actively
• 1:17:13
  partner with. And this is helping really
• 1:17:16
  facilitate a better relationship with those athletes from an ni o
• 1:17:22
  perspective. And I'm hoping that we continue
• 1:17:24
  to build on that and Triumph is doing a good job.
• 1:17:30
  Shout out be Hill and those guys.
• 1:17:32
  Yeah that are part of that. And yeah, we but we definitely
• 1:17:37
  got to keep that moving forward. And and those that have the
• 1:17:40
  Pasady to help with that. You know, that needs to be
• 1:17:44
  something that's, that's going out there just like me looking
• 1:17:48
  to drive for 25 and I hope you Starship fun.
• 1:17:51
  I mean, if you're not doing it, we're going to get left behind
• 1:17:56
  very true, not not saying that. You know, it's got to be the
• 1:18:02
  first and foremost thing, the most important thing.
• 1:18:05
  But but as process, we got to be competitive.
• 1:18:09
  It got to be, we're not going. If we're not competitive, we're
• 1:18:11
  going to keep falling behind true.
• 1:18:14
  All right. Well Brian, let's as we start
• 1:18:15
  wrapping up here tonight, we actually got the opportunity.
• 1:18:20
  We stood in line. We're fans you, we met the head
• 1:18:24
  coach. We were there was probably
• 1:18:26
  three, four minutes, talk with him, cleaned a little beer, With
• 1:18:30
  him in what you said earlier. About the recruits, you felt
• 1:18:34
  with us because the gentleman before us, he wanted him to send
• 1:18:37
  a video to a friend, right? And he got on the video and he
• 1:18:40
  did it with us. We just we just shot to shit
• 1:18:43
  with him and it just felt like a buddy, you know, he claimed the
• 1:18:47
  Bears with us. We, you know, said three or four
• 1:18:49
  things here and there and he's just having a conversation with
• 1:18:52
  us. It felt so it didn't feel like
• 1:18:58
  he was trying to do it. He just felt like he looked at
• 1:19:02
  us and said these are a couple. Say what we are.
• 1:19:06
  We're probably 30 year old guys out for a night together.
• 1:19:09
  Have some fun hokey fans. I'm a I'm going to have fun with
• 1:19:12
  them. Yeah, it was awesome.
• 1:19:16
  Yeah. I mean, he definitely
• 1:19:17
  understands how to read the people that he's interacting
• 1:19:21
  with when he when he talks about building relationships.
• 1:19:25
  I think being a guy that can read folks quickly and and
• 1:19:31
  understand how to approach them that that's a skill.
• 1:19:36
  And a lot of times it's a skill that's very hard to learn and
• 1:19:40
  he's got it. You know whether that translates
• 1:19:44
  to two more wins on the recruiting Trail Forest, long
• 1:19:47
  term is to be seen but in terms of just interacting with the
• 1:19:50
  fans and being the type of coach that gets the fanbase
• 1:19:55
  enthusiastic about what they're doing, I mean we got a winner on
• 1:20:01
  that front. So we'll see if we can keep Keep
• 1:20:06
  the wind's coming as we roll into the season on that front
• 1:20:10
  but it's true. Well, I think as we were I can't
• 1:20:14
  remember. I said it to you give the guy
• 1:20:16
  six years. I mean, because we are in a
• 1:20:19
  rebuild. We're in a very tumultuous time.
• 1:20:21
  You can't give him three years and expect him to be at nine.
• 1:20:24
  Ten wins a year. If he doesn't wonderful, if it
• 1:20:28
  doesn't, I'm in for the Long Haul with this one.
• 1:20:32
  But another thing notice Pronto, we had our moment.
• 1:20:34
  We talk with him because Minutes, we went on, we got our
• 1:20:37
  dinner. He was there.
• 1:20:38
  Good. Our he did not have to be there
• 1:20:41
  after after he finished speaking after he finished and just
• 1:20:45
  talking to people taking pictures sign and having a
• 1:20:47
  conversation. Just again, that's where we
• 1:20:49
  noticed. Whoever you were is who he was
• 1:20:55
  going to adapt to it. I think that's why he's such a
• 1:20:57
  good recruiter because he is going to adapt and figure out
• 1:21:01
  what's my Baseline for you? What's my Baseline for you?
• 1:21:05
  Yeah. I'm still going to be me, but
• 1:21:09
  I'm going to figure out what part of me and you connect the
• 1:21:11
  best. And when you have a guy like
• 1:21:13
  that, you know what, you always say brown bat for one day, if
• 1:21:17
  Wednesday would have just had a little personality, he would
• 1:21:19
  have got a little more Slack. Prai has the personality and if
• 1:21:24
  we win something like six game, if we only won five games, I
• 1:21:27
  think some people are going to say he walked into a shitty
• 1:21:29
  situation. This year, you know, the
• 1:21:32
  recruiting Bridges have been burned all over the state all
• 1:21:34
  over the region. This guy's got to rebuild job to
• 1:21:37
  do. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:39
  Bridges burned. All over the State roster in
• 1:21:42
  shambles. It's a bad one.
• 1:21:46
  Two punch, right? You got you had to rebuild a
• 1:21:48
  roster, but you also have to rebuild the relationships to
• 1:21:50
  help you build that roster. So he's doing a good job of
• 1:21:54
  laying that Foundation that we're talking about birth from a
• 1:21:57
  culture standpoint and from a relationship standpoint with
• 1:22:01
  players coaches, all the all the folks in the state and all the
• 1:22:05
  folks in the footprint. So I think we're on the right
• 1:22:08
  track from that perspective, you will see long term how the fit
• 1:22:14
  is, but I think in terms of just You know who he is, as a coach.
• 1:22:19
  And that that side, I think we got to, we got to hit here.
• 1:22:22
  We got a big hit here. All right, Brian.
• 1:22:24
  Anything breaking over the last little while here.
• 1:22:30
  I don't see anything man. I think we're good.
• 1:22:32
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• 1:22:36
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• 1:22:39
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