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MK Ultra Survivor Reveals the Cabal's Plot to Destroy Christianity | Survivor Stories EP05 Pt.2 · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Hulghouse. We spend a lot of time on this channel talking about what's being done to America, to our kids, to our families, to our culture, our country. And sometimes that's heavy. Sometimes it feels like the darkness just keeps winning.
• 0:34
  But I wanna ask you something. What does a woman do after escaping a CIA program at 17 with no shoes and no memory of her own childhood, after putting herself through medical school with no idea what had been done to her, and after building a whole life from nothing? What you're about to find out in part two of this interview with doctor Juliet Engel, she doesn't stay silent. She doesn't disappear. She ends up going to Moscow where she follows a bus full of missing children all the way to Northern Norway, where she then walks into a police station and is shown a box of Polaroid photos of the dead children they found in that region.
• 1:13
  And then she spends the next twenty years building an underground railroad with her own hands that pulls 70,000 children out of trafficking networks and brings them home. 70,000. Let that sit for a minute with you. But then she comes back to America because that's where she's from, and this is where she wants to fight. And she's got a lot to say about what's happening here and what's being done to American children right now in this country.
• 1:38
  So that's a a big part of what this second part is. It's not just a dark story. It's a blueprint. It's proof that one person who refuses to give up can change things, real things for real children. So if you haven't seen part one yet, go back and watch that one first.
• 1:53
  I really mean that, because this second half won't land the same way if you haven't heard where Juliet came from. And honestly, if you've been following this series from j r sweet all the way up to now, fact that you're still here and you're not turning away, that means something. Most people don't do what you're doing. Most people would rather not know, and you keep showing up, and that takes courage. So I'm glad that you're here with me for this interview.
• 2:18
  Juliet also talks about what it felt like to bring all this evidence and the documents and the names and the contracts to the State Department, to the UN, to Congress, and what they said back to her. So you don't wanna miss this. And please just keep in mind throughout the whole interview that this does take us to a place of hope. And I want you to know that know that going in because it's really important, especially after everything we got into in part one. But just follow your own discernment.
• 2:45
  Don't take Juliet's word as the gospel and don't take mine either. In a world where we're surrounded by lies and engineered confusion, the most powerful thing that you can do is just build that muscle of discernment. Listen to your gut, feel with your heart and your senses, and think for yourself. It's not a disclaimer, but that's the whole point. Now, let's begin.
• 3:05
  This is part two of my Survivor Series interview with doctor Juliet Engel. So with this, I want to kind of look at America, right? Because you know, you you spent a long time over in in Moscow and in Russia and working on, human trafficking, rescuing operations, which I wanna definitely talk about. But looking at America as a whole And so, as I'm kind of piecing this together, it's really it's difficult to go through this process of undoing the programming, right? Because, like, we're born, and when you're when you're raised into this system, that becomes truth to you.
• 3:53
  That becomes your framework. And it's not just that you're believing these lies you read in a textbook. It's that the operating system that is installed in you, your entire worldview is constructed by this system. And so it's a very difficult process to undo these these layers to start to see the world around you for what it is. And I've been trying to do this I I actually remember when when I was 15 years old, I remember writing in my journal, you create your own reality.
• 4:21
  I I got really into psychology and, kind of metaphysics and different things that, you know, in my early as earlier years. And I remember thinking I I kinda stumbled on this and thinking that, okay, I need to be responsible for, like, trying to really build my own understanding of how the world works instead of just being told how it works. And that probably started me off on a very curious path of just asking a lot of questions, which makes sense, the profession I'm in now, as a professional question asker, right? And so, but when you look at America, and you look at the programming here, and you're describing all of these different people, these children that become the GOATs, and the ones that kind of rise up and become they offer the bling and everything. It's almost like what I'm seeing is that it's Plato's cave, right?
• 5:12
  It's the allegory of the cave. And so what we see around us is it's almost like it's a play, Right? The and we the people that are the prominent actors on the stage, they're part of the play, and their job is to create a false world, a false reality for everyone living within it because then it controls us. It's it's not like propaganda. It's it's so much deeper than that.
• 5:35
  And so
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's what Disney did.
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. It shapes yeah, it does. And so a lot of these children that became the GOATs, did they just become, like, tools for them to to become actors in the play? So if you imagine all the audiences sitting there, and the play represents their own reality, that all the actors on stage, they're literally just mind control puppets.
• 5:59
  They're literally just have strings to their masters. They say, okay, you're gonna be this president, you're gonna be this CEO, you're gonna be this music star, they're all part this orchestrated social engineering program that actually creates the reality that we that we perceive to be real here in America.
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: That's correct. And you look at our government right now, and if you can't see it, you never will.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: Because there it is. And and what happened in 1976 so that's when the church commission, it was congressman or senator Church, had hearings in Congress to review the MK Ultra program. So it was the first time Congress had ever looked at this or even knew about it, or so they claimed. And the founders of the program came and testified. And yes, there were 85 American institutions, 150 programs, thousands of people had been affected by the programs, but they'll close them down now.
• 7:05
  This is 1976. Of course, they didn't. But in 1978, the senior executive service was founded and fully funded, and nobody knows from where. And I think the people that were coming out of the program, the The ones who'd given up their soul. That was the criteria.
• 7:28
  If you did that, then you could be part of the senior executive service. And from then on, they would insert you into any service they wanted to search you into. And they used to have a website up until a year ago where the senior executive service bragged about the fact that they totally ran 76 of The US government agencies were run by them. And it's no different now. So they choose who's going to be attorney general, who's going to be in this position, that position, and it has nothing to do with their capabilities.
• 8:07
  And then they are paid separately. They are given separate orders. Since I ran a government I was one of the first grantees of the Trafficking and Persons Office for my projects overseas in Russia. And they would insert senior executive service people into our program. We had no say about it.
• 8:31
  Had no use for them. They would come in and be completely disruptive. We couldn't fire them. We couldn't get rid of them. We were just stuck with these people who made like 10 times the amount of money we did.
• 8:43
  And then suddenly they'd be gone and someone else would come in. And but it made it it made us less effective. Except that maybe because of my background, I sort of saw through it and worked around it, and we went more by working through Russian organizations than than than staying on the American side of things. But that's what's happening. So we have extra governmental groups, you know, the thing I don't know, I don't know who's calling the shots in these in these groups.
• 9:24
  And then recently, oh, actually, Candace Owens is doing a lot of great research on on MK Ultra and on mind control. And so, I learned a lot from her. But she was talking about how Benjamin Netanyahu became very close friends with Mitt Romney in the 1970s. And there was the joining together of Mormonism and Zionism. And Mitt Romney's father, George Romney, had been very big in the MKUltra program, and that came out in the church hearings.
• 9:59
  So, I mean, it wasn't secret that he was he was one of the main movers behind the whole mind control program in The United States. So there you had Mormonism, Zionism and MK Ultra coming together. So, have all these basically anti human? They all hate humanity. They all want most of us to die.
• 10:31
  And they see human beings as gods. So, the only thing standing against that is Christianity, right? Not the churches. The churches are so confused, in my opinion, but pure Christianity. I mean, one of the advantages for me, 70 years old before I was able to even listen to the Bible, so I didn't hear it until I was 70.
• 11:01
  And what I heard probably was more pure than if I'd gone through the program. If somebody had chewed it up and spit it out at me in a church or something. I'm hearing more that the pure words, but it's it stands in exact juxtaposition to all of this. And it's the only thing that does, as far as I can see. So, you can see why the Zionists are destroying churches and and Christians are being killed in Lebanon, which was sort of the seat of Christianity.
• 11:39
  And in Ukraine, they destroyed the churches. They killed the Christians. We're in a we're in a deep, deep spiritual war, and people people need to take a stand against evil. And and I don't know how good people's discernment is.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's difficult, because I think what you find is that whenever there becomes any centralization of thought, obviously, the people that want control over people will say, Okay, well, instead of trying to take control of these 5,000 people, if I can take control of their pastor, then I can control these 5,000 people. And that's why for me, I'm a very spiritual person. I'd say my faith is is is is is strong as a mountain, but I'm not a religious person. As I I I don't think Christ didn't come down and say, I want you to go start religions everywhere and rely on a pastor to interpret my words to tell you how to behave. Like this, right?
• 12:41
  It was through Him, right? It was through it's a direct thing that we have within us, to, you know, and so, but if you look at that, I think that that's what's happened, right? And a lot of people have been misled. And, you know, if you look at America and the modern American church, I mean, there's so many things that show it's just been completely co opted. I mean, even looking into some of the, the, communist initiatives, you know, out of the world church, out of, you know, the KGB, it's like they've played a large part in infiltrating, and co
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: opting Yes, these they did.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: And I think that's also, it's like, yeah, you're right though, if you look at Christianity, and what you see over and over again is, yeah, there's various purges here and there, but it's, it's typically, it's the Christians that are targeted. The Christians are sent to war. The, the look at the Bolshevik revolution, right? They slaughtered the Christians, Right? So you can see that how much of a threat it is because I think it's it's you know, you go back to even just looking at the foundational principles of it.
• 13:44
  You're right. It it goes in it it pushes back against the fundamentals of of evil and of Satan. And so looking at looking at America, because before you'd mentioned, the difference between what you experienced in Russia versus here in America, you know, I'm constantly looking at and trying to understand the social engineering of America. I'm trying to always ask myself, okay, how did America from a hundred years ago become America today? Right?
• 14:13
  Because the country that it is, like, feel like I was born a hundred years too late. But maybe it's because I was supposed to be in this time to try to help remind people, Hey, this is what it really means, the best I can. But if you look at, you know, where America is at today, and especially from your background and your your knowledge of this system and the levels of control, what's it like for you, especially coming from more of an international background, what do you see in America? What do you see with the population of America? What what is this yeah.
• 14:46
  I guess yeah. That that's that's my question.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I was in Russia from pretty much most of my working time from 1990 to 2010, and that's when the Soviet Union collapsed. That's when the there was a civil war. That's when there were two Chechen wars, and that was when there was a complete a complete restructuring and then the driving out of the oligarchs. So which had a huge, huge part. The oligarchs, by the way, they're all here, and they're not doing us any favors.
• 15:24
  So, I was seeing Russia at rock bottom. They were the medical Every institution had collapsed, and they were struggling. And they had never For seventy years, religion, all the religions had been illegal. So, no one even had a Bible. No one had anything.
• 15:50
  But they had buried the bells. So, every one of the churches that was destroyed, the people got to them first and buried the bells. And that was the big secret that was passed down through generations is where the church bells were. And in 1990, when the Russian constitution made religion legal again, all religions that had been present at the time of the revolution were welcome to come back and reestablish. And suddenly, the bells started coming up like they were rising like mushrooms out of the ground because people were digging them up.
• 16:33
  The churches were gone. The bell towers were gone. But all along the street, you'd see these bells start appearing huge. Some of them are huge. And and then it took about three years to build all kinds of towers.
• 16:49
  And but within five years, the bells were all ringing. And right now, I I miss that so much about being in Moscow is is hearing the bells, bells, bells. The Russians love the bells. And there's a there is a spirit that comes from the sound of the bells. And especially they consider those bells because those bells suffered.
• 17:12
  Those bells watched the slaughter of the priests and the and the nuns and the and the the faithful at the time of the revolution. So these bells, some of the bells were even exiled. So so the bells were sent to Siberia to punish the churches. I mean, it was just it was the bells themselves carried carried a spiritual power. So when the just the symbology of the bells starting to ring again and then people started people overseas started sending Bibles in the in the Bibles are written in Church Slavonic, which is ancient or not ancient, but an older version of Russian.
• 17:57
  And so they had to learn how to read that. And but it it was amazing thing to watch that happen. And it really hadn't occurred to me while I was watching that happen in Russia. Now, this wasn't happening in Ukraine. Ukraine is a different, different story.
• 18:17
  But it was happening in Russia and it was I had no idea that things were were going in The United States in the absolute opposite direction. But they they have they've rebuilt. Well, when you had the situation when the Bolsheviks were in power and the oligarchs were in power, those were all those were all Jewish. That was all that was not Christian. And every president of the Soviet Union was Jewish.
• 18:53
  They changed their names like Elias became Yeltsin. So it went from a Jewish name to Pine Tree. The first president they had who was actually a Christian and used his real name was Vladimir Putin. And that's that's a lot of the the response and loyalty that you see throughout Russia that people here don't understand at all, is that he's actually a Russian Christian from way back. And since he's been in power and like I think about 1992, 1993, no, no, it was 2002, 2003.
• 19:37
  He's rebuilt 30,000 churches. Not not just churches, but synagogues and temples. And and so whatever whatever religion had been there before could reestablish itself and get grants and get government money and rebuild their monasteries and their temples and and their study programs. And it just bloomed. It just absolutely bloomed.
• 20:04
  And the oligarchs were pushed out because they had basically stolen the privatized industries. So they were stealing the wealth of Russia with the help of their Bolshevik counterparts in Ukraine and in The United States and in London. And actually, I think there was just another wave of expelling the oligarchs from Russia just a few years ago. Or actually, even now, they're still expelling the oligarchs because they undermine Christianity. They undermine law and order.
• 20:45
  They undermine morality. They bring the porno industry in. And Russia rejected that. Ukraine embraced it. And that's as much as anything why there is that war and that irreconcilable difference.
• 21:02
  And when people look at Ukraine and Russia and wonder, you know, is Russia going to take Kyiv? And I can tell you absolutely they're going to take Kyiv because Kyiv was the that's the founding site of Russia and the most holy monastery in all the world is there. Pachysk Lavra Monastery is is there in Kyiv. And Russia will take that because Ukraine has been persecuting the monks, and they've imprisoned the the Metropolitan. So anyway I could talk for hours about that.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, which is which is fascinating. Especially, I always love hearing people describe these things from firsthand experience, not from what they read on Twitter. Right? And so when you look at
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: You won't know anything.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: When you look at America, and this is what I've been kind of trying to understand and just kind of work in my worldview, it's like we've been told we're the freest country. We've been told this is the land of freedom. I think that's part of the psychological operation, is just to keep telling people how free they are, how free they are. But without even getting into the whole, the birth certificate and the chattel, there's a lot of things you get into to understand how free that we actually aren't. But there's a lot of Americans that just have this, this cognitive dissonance that comes from thinking that we live in the greatest country, which I agree it's a great country in many, many ways, and there is religious freedom here and everything, which is great.
• 22:34
  But I also think that people don't understand that they're living in a controlled prison. It's just that it's a it's it permeates everything so strongly they just don't see it. And so, like, what, what, yeah, what's America like through through your eyes?
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Well, Russia is freer. Freedom of expression, freedom of of communications, in every respect. And that's why we have to have them blocked out completely, so that we can't see what's happening there. Because they're undergoing a renaissance of religion, culture, engineering, space travel, their recruiting. I think there's there's been quite an exodus from all over the world of people moving to Russia, if you have something to offer.
• 23:34
  So, it's a brain drain now going in that direction. But that has to be hidden from us so that we will continue to think that this is us. Like I said, when the Soviet Union crashed and the Russian people And when I say Russian people, it's 174 different ethnic groups that make up the Russian Federation. So, it's a lot of different people. And they had to come together and they had to decide.
• 24:06
  Well, they had to decide on who they were as a civilizational state. And enemies of Russia had always taken advantage of the fact that you could always get the fighting with the fighting with the fighting they fighting with all spoke different languages. They all had different currencies, different values, different clothes. That all had to change. And it did when everything collapsed and all of this became essentially irrelevant.
• 24:41
  And the one thing the communists had done when they came in and took over Russia, the people were 90% illiterate. So no one could read, no one could write. And that that kept them in a prison. And within by the time Stalin died, the country was 99% literate. So, in fact, well educated.
• 25:08
  So, of that was in place, but needed to be activated when everything fell apart. We're not at the stage where everything has fallen apart. We're at the stage where it's collapsing. It's collapsing. It has collapsed, but we don't know it yet.
• 25:31
  The magic tricksters are able to keep the market looking like really hot, even though the market really doesn't mean anything. We don't know how much gold we have. We, you know, we don't know any of these things sooner or later, probably sooner rather than later. We're going to hit that rock bottom. And when that happens, we have to decide what who we are as a civilization state, because it's only the civilization states that survive.
• 25:59
  You know? Like, why can't we defeat Iran? Well, we can't because it's it's an agent civilizational state. And even though you had people bickering, as people do, they came together. They identify as one civilizational state.
• 26:15
  Russia did the same thing. All these different ethnic groups, suddenly big stress. They came together and we'll have to do the same. And we have all these different groups, different backgrounds, different belief systems. But we're Americans.
• 26:33
  So, what does that mean? We're going to have to decide. And in a way, it's going to be horrendous. It's going be very traumatic to go through this. But what an opportunity at the same time to to decide who we are as a civilizational state.
• 26:52
  And I hope I get to see it.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Me too. Me too. Well, I've got I've got a two year old and a five year old, two little girls, and I you know, we we homeschool. We we we kind of live not I'm not gonna say a rough grid, but we're out in the country, and we we have chickens. And we're, you know, we're we're trying to like, it's it's kinda we're on this journey.
• 27:14
  It's a lot of what this this show even is. Right? Man in America, what's it mean to be a man in America? Like, what is this? And but we're trying to figure out how to get back to those roots because, you know, a lot of ways, America is a very rootless country.
• 27:26
  I mean, you know, we you know, we like, my kind of DNA is mostly Scotch Irish. And you go then there's there's a lot of there's a history. There's a deep history. But for us, it's you know, go back goes back a couple 100 years. I think we've been lied to about most of our history anyway.
• 27:42
  And so I think that there's this process for a lot of Americans that that are sensing this is coming. They can sense that the system is is collapsing. I think it's in free fall in many ways. And I I agree with you that they're they're using their Babylonian money magic to prop up the stock market through money printing. And there's, there's ways that we're being kind of told and gaslit and saying, this is the golden age.
• 28:05
  And it's like, you look around, it's like, I don't see any gold anywhere. Right? And so I think that we are going through this process. But I do my sense, though, is that, yes, there is a large portion of Americans that are just they just want to crack a beer and watch a football game, you know, or whatever it is. But I also think that there is a, there is this energy, there's this awakening happening, where I think a lot of people here in this country are really trying to figure out what does it mean to be an American?
• 28:36
  What does it mean to be self reliant? What does it mean to be sovereign? And that's what gives me hope, because I think that there's people that sense that. It's actually part So actually, we're in the process of building a kind of private community called the Ark, Right? So, you know, like Noah's Ark, right?
• 28:53
  So to preserve to try to preserve what need what should be preserved about this culture and to help kind of help people unite and meet people that, can stand by them. Because I do think that there is a flood coming, and it might be some sort of AI driven flood. Who knows what it is? But I think that in the coming years, you're right, we will have to decide who and what we are as a nation. And I think
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: As a civilization?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: As a civil you're right. Yeah, because there is a reset coming, right? There is a reset coming, but I think that the it would be incorrect to believe that the reset is being controlled by these elite groups. I think they know the reset was coming, and they're trying to use the reset to take control fully, but it's I don't think that it's it's their reset. I think they're just trying to take advantage of something that's happening.
• 29:50
  But I think it's coming. I think it's coming absolutely.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I agree. I agree completely. And the more I know about these different groups, the more I see they're in competition. They Oh, the Templars just came out. The grandmaster of the Knights Templar, Tim Hogan, has been doing YouTube videos to explain who the Knights Templar are.
• 30:19
  This has never happened. My great grandfather was a grandmaster of the Knights Templar, and we didn't even or the family didn't even know about it until he died. And they all showed up for his funeral, and he had a parade down the main street of Chicago with all white horses. So, it was so secretive, nobody even knew until he was dead. But now, Tim Hogan's coming out and explaining who the Templars are, what they believe, and explaining that they are not Christians.
• 30:53
  So, you've got this competition going on. But it was like that in Russia also. There was just absolute craziness, and people didn't know what to believe. People were confused. Then they went through a period where they they had all the Soviet street names who were all the names of the metro stations were all famous communists.
• 31:21
  And instead of replacing them with a new one, they just took them all down. Nobody knew where they were. Nobody knew what station they were at. It just was absolute craziness. And I I felt privileged to go through that there.
• 31:40
  But then I thought I'd come back here, and everything would be just fine. But it's not.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Actually, I do want to make sure we talk about your child trafficking work that you've done. Because I remember, as you explained earlier in the conversation, that it took you up until around 70 to release that guilt, right, that you had, that it was your fault these children were killed. And so do you think that that's part of what made you get so involved in child trafficking? Was that a way of like, because you couldn't save those few children that died, that this was your way of, kind of, like, maybe repentance of this is your way of of kinda evening those things out? And I guess, what what what drove you so tell me more about this this this part of your story because it's a very important part of your story.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I I when I escaped from the MKUltra program, I put myself through University of Washington, got into medical school, put myself through medical school, worked for many years, had a successful practice in the Seattle area, and then was invited to go to Russia to help with reform for their maternal and infant health system, which was absolutely awful. And I got more and more involved with that, still not having any recollection of my own programming. In retrospect, I'd had a lot of programming about going to Russia to the point where I actually even knew some words. But that got sorted out later. I got grants and worked on taking American physicians to Russia helping rebuild the maternal and infant hospital system.
• 33:36
  And as part of that, discovered that children were being trafficked or being sold out of birth houses and orphanages. Not clearly being sold. They never admitted that, but they were disappearing from the birth houses and the orphanages. So, followed a group up into Northern Russia, discovered that they were being bought by a group from Finland who would bring a bus across the border, load up with kids from the orphanage, and then head north. I didn't know where they went.
• 34:11
  So over the course of the next several months, managed to follow them all the way up to Murmansk. And then you can drive from Murmansk to Northern Norway. So they were on this bus, and the bus was like a rolling brothel. And men would get on and off the bus, and the kids would just keep going. And then eventually, they would cross the border into Norway.
• 34:38
  And when I got there in Kirkenes, which is the very northernmost part of Norway, I went to the police station and asked, I said, I know this bus. These buses are coming to Kirkenes, and I want to know what happens to these kids. And the guy pulled open a drawer and here were all these Polaroid photos and they were faces of children, but they were all dead. And I was so shocked. I should have taken pictures or taken a handful of them.
• 35:10
  I didn't. I was just so shocked because suddenly I remembered, like, dead children, children who had been sacrificed, children who had been abused. Suddenly, these memories started coming up in me, and I was all alone up in this little town in Northern Norway looking at these pictures in this police station. I went back the next day and they denied they'd had the pictures. But they did admit that the children that they did find dead children and they buried them all in a common grave called Natasha.
• 35:48
  And and that that just did it for me. From then on, I I came back to The US. I the the trafficking in person's office and State Department had just started up. I went there. I managed to get a a grant to start researching child trafficking in Russia, which they were happy to do because it discredited Russia.
• 36:14
  So, make them look bad. But what I found out after a couple of years was we began to identify which countries were the receiving countries. So, kids were being trafficked out of Russia and all the former republics. And we found that the major countries that were receiving these children and paying for these children were Germany, Israel and The US. So I thought, oh, they'll want to hear this.
• 36:43
  So I came back to The US. I had all my my we'd we'd collected questionnaires in in 27 different regions. We had masses of data showing showing this, proving this. We had routes. We had tickets.
• 36:59
  We had agencies. We knew what was happening. I presented it at the State Department. I presented it at the UN. I presented it at Congress.
• 37:09
  And nobody wanted to listen. It's the first time I've had the experience of people just like not seeing what you're holding in front of you. And I thought it was I I didn't know what it was. And now I understand because these were all people from the senior executive service. These were all people from within the system that was actually doing this.
• 37:33
  And the last thing they wanted was someone like me showing up and like blowing the whole child trafficking international ring out of the water. Well, that all I met was was a wall of nothing. And that has continued. Let's see. That would have been in the 2000s.
• 37:58
  And then I returned because the threats to me got too severe by 2010. And the same wall of resistance is here. Nobody wants to hear about it. Nobody wants to fund any research into into children being trafficked. And if you tried to if agencies try to accumulate any data about it like they did in Texas, they get sued by the federal government and told to erase it all.
• 38:29
  So. So that's that's where we are. And and the reason I think what I have to say is important is that I'm going back to 1950s, 1960s and pinpointing the beginning of when this massive mind control push came with the help of the Nazi research from the concentration camps and the NSA and the CIA, who are brand new at the time. And and the result is this stupor we're in.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: So, gosh, so basically, you're seeing children disappearing from orphanages in Russia. I know I know Ukraine is is a hotbed of of child trafficking.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: There there was then and since the war, you know, you eliminate the dads, take away the fathers, and the children are unprotected.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: And so you were seeing these pipelines of kids going up through Northern Russia into Finland, and then from Finland being basically just just redistributed into Germany, The United States, and Israel. And Mhmm. What do you think what was what was like, what was the purpose of that? And I know we talked about a lot of things, but, like, what what were these children being what was being done to them? Like, why?
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I've had I would have to have the other the counterpart. I was in Russia, so we were we were finding out where they were being taken from, who was taking them. We knew they were going to Brighton Beach and to Virginia Beach. We knew who they were seating. We knew what planes they were going on.
• 40:16
  But she needed The US to respond. Interestingly, I also took this information to Israel, and they were very cooperative. So they some Knesset members to meet with me in Moscow, and we set up a way to rescue Russian children who showed up in Israel. Nothing like that in The US. Not any response at all.
• 40:46
  And so that side became a blank. And when I got back, I thought, well, so it's just me, you know, I can't I can't rally any energy like I could in in Russia. And then I realized I better look at my own motivations. And that's really when I began to write Sparky Surviving Sex Magic. And I also wanted to write Angels Over Moscow because that tells the story of my life at work in Russia.
• 41:27
  And that really tells you how to build a community network, an international community based networks that work together and become a hugely successful pipeline for rescuing people for all kinds of things.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Because, I mean, you you rescued, what, over 70,000 children through right?
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And we documented all of them. And it wasn't it wasn't us alone. It was the systems that we developed with the international police and and education, and and we taught people how to do civil actions, how to do parades, and this kind of thing, how to do media blitzes at 05:00 in the morning that look great on TV, but it's before the mafia shows up. You know?
• 42:17
  You get out of there quick. So we did a lot of that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: And so kind of kind of coming into a conclusion for our conversation, for people that are just on the early journey of discovering this information, which I think for a lot of people, especially here in America, was the Epstein, the recent Epstein files that really opened a lot of people up and said, oh, because before then, if you talked about these things, they said, oh, that's a far right QAnon conspiracy, Pizzagate, Trina Chrome. I think that you saw a lot of people, even on on the far left, seeing and reading through these documents and saying, Oh my gosh, like, this is really happening. And so there's been this big, inertia behind this. But for people that are seeing this information and feeling, My goodness, this world is just so evil, and kind of staring in the face of evil. What's your message to them?
• 43:17
  Where does the hope exist in all of this when you come to understand that the world you thought was not that bad is actually run by very, very evil evil satanic beings and and people?
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Stand up to it. You're stronger than they are. The things they fear the worst are the human soul. It's gonna be people with intact souls, healed souls. If your soul is damaged, you can heal it, heal yourself.
• 43:54
  We have to stand up to it as human beings and take this opportunity to define ourselves. Who are we? I mean, we've watched. Well, you know, the Epstein files came out in 2005. He was arrested.
• 44:10
  All of those flight logs and documents were seized. People wrote books and then were bribed not to publish them. But you could online, you could get copies of the flight logs. So all that information has been around for over twenty years and available to anybody that dug. But there's the inertia, the big plop that sat on top of it so that it it didn't happen.
• 44:36
  And they wanted the vax to come out and everybody to get sick before people caught on to the fact that they were these files and these these demonic entities that were being and this is and that should happen. I didn't talk about that. But a lot of what went on at Fort Point at The Presidio was summoning of demons. And that's why the Church of Set was started there. That's why the Satanic Bible was written there.
• 45:04
  That's why Michael Aquino was there. Levee. Levee. Levee. Sorry.
• 45:14
  I knew him as Anton Levee, but it's Anton, and he changed it to Anton Levee, and then the other Satanists that were there. So, summoning lore for the satanic Bible was what they were doing with kids, you know, sending us to time travel and bring back stories and lore and write them, because they had to be written by by hands that were relatively relatively pure, and we wrote them backwards. So, there's so much more to talk about. But I think we got to the essence, which is this this evil has been imposed upon us. And this is our our challenge, but also our opportunity to define ourselves as civilizational state.
• 46:15
  We've got the Gnostics coming against us, basically, all the different groups that are coming against. Certainly the Zionists are not fond of Christians. And so we need to find who we are. And that requires internal purification by each soul, by each person, because that's your that's your gift. That's that's your power.
• 46:47
  And so. But I've seen so much evil, so much corruption, so much that sometimes I doubt if I should be the one even speaking. But then I realized that I'm speaking from the place that kept me surviving and with the voice for the people in the future, because you all need to sort this out.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we do. I agree, though. It's challenging, but it's an opportunity. It is. And I think that America needs to be reset.
• 47:34
  Right? That's, you know, not by the global technocrats, but by, I think we have to have a reset of our values, our morals, of our culture, that we need to go through that process of, kind of the the the fire tempering the steel, right? We have to go through that process, and and then we can emerge, right? Because it's a it's a fourth turning, right? It's a cycle, right?
• 47:56
  And we're at the stage of the the weak men that create hard times, right? But those hard times then create the strong men again. And I think that that's where we are. And so I think it's a process of remembering, it's a process of redefining, it's a process of, rebuilding, holding all that's dear to us and preserving it.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: And we have not been through hard times yet. Not in this country. No. We haven't even gone through a Gaza or
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Bolshevik revolution or Mao's purge or in in any of these things.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: None of that. None of that. So if if we were really smart, we'd realize that the the COVID vaccine was an attack on us, and there'll be more famine. Famine's coming because our fertilizer's been cut off. Yeah.
• 48:47
  Straight up, Hormuz is closed. We can't get fertilizer. We're not gonna be able to grow food. So we're under attack. We could stop it if if if will we?
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Tough to Well, Juliet, thank you so much for giving us your time today. Really, really enjoyed speaking with you. And I just, thank you for everything you're doing. I want to bring up your website, once more before we, let's see here, before we sign off.
• 49:21
  I've got too many links open over here. So here we go. So your website, which I'll make sure it is in the show description, is julietengel.com. Here you have the books that can be purchased, which I'd recommend that if you enjoyed this conversation, it's a great way of learning, but also supporting you and supporting your work. And, yeah, and also just share this information.
• 49:47
  Like, that's a key, right? We have to get these conversations in front of more people because that's ultimately, I think, what will help the masses decide the fate of the country, is if they realize that people that are currently deciding the fate of the country are not who they think that they are. And so that's important. And, yeah, just again, thank you for everything you've done, and thank you for for just giving us your time today. I really, really appreciate it.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Yes. And thank you for all that you do. And thanks for having me.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Well, take care, and God bless you.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: You too.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: So that was Doctor. Juliet Engel. And I want to say, if you've made it all the way through both parts of this, take a breath. Pat yourself on the back. Seriously.
• 50:34
  You've done something truly amazing. And you just did something that most people in this country aren't willing to do. You sat with the full weight of it. You didn't look away. And we did that together and with thousands of others.
• 50:47
  Actually, not it's hundreds of thousands have been watching with you. Actually, I've had millions of views of this Survivor Series on my channel. Like, millions of views, millions of people have seen this these interviews. So people are yearning for the truth, and that proves it. That's encouraging.
• 51:05
  Now I wanna thank all of you for watching and listening with me and for sharing this with others and for commenting with your thoughts. It's honestly really encouraging for me and for every survivor out there. And here's what I want you to walk away with though. Don't remember only the darkness. Don't remember only the programs and the documents and the names.
• 51:25
  What you want to walk away with is what Juliet said at the end, that your soul is power. Like God the soul that God put in your body is powerful, and they spent decades trying to take that away from her. But she never once gave it up, not once. But because of that, seventy thousand children got to go home. And that shows what one person can do.
• 51:49
  So imagine what we can all do. So go home tonight, hug your kids, pray with them, talk to your neighbors, build something real with the people around you. It's not a small thing to do that. It's actually the whole answer to so many problems around us today. And now I wanna say something about the series as a whole because actually, this is it.
• 52:10
  So this episode, this is now the this is the end of season one of Survivor Stories. We started with JR Sweet, then Kathy O'Brien, Anika Lucas, Max Lowen, and then doctor Juliet Engel. So we had five survivors, five stories, and honestly, the same pattern is running through almost every single one of them. And so if you've watched all five, you know what I mean. But if you haven't watched them, go back.
• 52:37
  Start from the beginning because it builds. And once you see the whole picture, you can't unsee it. So here's my question for you. Do you wanna see season two? Should we keep doing more of these Survivor Series interviews?
• 52:49
  If the answer is yes, leave a comment right now. Let me know what you think. Tell me what you wanna hear. Who do want me to hear from? Are there any questions that you still have?
• 52:58
  I'm listening. This series only keeps going if you want it to. But I do think that you're gonna really enjoy the next series that we're already working on, and I won't say too much about it except that it's called hidden history. So we're gonna have a lot of fun with that one. Until then, stay grounded, guard your mind, protect the innocent around you, and don't confuse seeing the darkness with surrendering to it.