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Simon Roche on multiculturalism, war, and exit strategies | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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My name is June. This is June.
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Warfare, the battle of ideas. I I feel obliged to give long
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form answers, Jeremy, because the subjects that you and I
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discuss are very much bigger than people think that they are.
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I heard some Americans talking about South Africa the other day
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and the understanding of what's going on here is so simplistic.
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If I simplified things, I'd leave myself open to a lot of
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criticism. So I try to bring the receipts
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and build the whole case for the audience so they know that I'm
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not bull dusting. You know, if I talk about farm
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murders, I talk about farm murders with facts, figures,
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data and statistics so that nobody can say to me it's not
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true. You know, they would have to
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come with a tonne of non existent statistics to even make
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a case. So yeah, we discussed subjects
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that sort of invite a comprehensive address.
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You know, I've been chatting for many years now, but I don't
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think, Simon, you've ever actually explained to my UK
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column audience particularly what Saitlanders is.
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Many years ago our leader and founder believed that many of
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the central premises of the New South Africa proposition were
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false, that it was too much of A dollied up story to be real.
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And he was trained in in the army, in intelligence, so he is
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able to interrogate a subject intellectually.
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Does this sound true? Does that you know, is this
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likely? Is it probable?
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And he arrived at the conclusion that sooner or later South
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Africa was going to meet with a far more harsh reality then the
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the the sweetheart Mary Poppins reality of the transition from
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apartheid through the elections on the 27th of April 1994.
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First multiracial elections in South Africa, general elections
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that were won by the ANC. And he then became familiar with
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the prophecies of an obscure character to most people,
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obscure from about 100 and odd years ago.
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He was born in 1862, died in 1926, so he lived to be 64.
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And those prophecies are very, very, very reliable.
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Whether you're an atheist watching this or a Buddhist,
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what have you, doesn't matter. Maybe it was sheer luck, but the
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fact remains that he was extraordinarily accurate and he
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was involved in the Boer War as a non combatant for religious
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reasons. He didn't carry a rifle, but he
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was at the front lines. He felt it was his duty, and
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many generals attested to the supernatural nature of his
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prophecies. You know, there weren't
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predictions. They were supernatural.
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It's things that he could never possibly have known and which
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were enormously improbable. And there's a long list, laundry
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list 800 and something I believe all told.
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One of the series of prophecies pertained to the New South
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Africa. He said, bearing in mind 100
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years ago nobody ever believed that any African country should
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be allowed to rule itself. That was the prevailing wisdom
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of all of the developed world. So he said that South Africa of
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all countries, in other words, the African country with with
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the highest percentage of European people, would one day
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be ruled by a black man. One day a black man will sit on
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the throne of South Africa and he will be deemed a St by the
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world. And when he died, people will
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come from all over the world to pay homage to him and he'll be
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in a glass coffin in Pretoria, etcetera, etcetera.
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With that in mind, our leader and founder, his name is Mr
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Gustav Miller, sought to found an organisation based upon
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Christian, conservative, Caucasian principles.
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We're, we're an overtly Christian organisation that if
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we don't do church services and things like that, that we are
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overtly Christian. We're a, we're a an emergency
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plan initiative. We're defined under law as a
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civil defence organisation. Our raise on debt, our purpose
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for existence is to execute a national emergency plan to
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safeguard the welfare of our members in the event of
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cataclysmic events in South Africa.
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So he sought to set up something like that.
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Not it's not Marshall. It's not about, I don't know,
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whatever silly things inviting trouble.
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It's about ordinary families in South Africa that share those
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three values. They are Caucasian people,
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Caucasian values, Caucasian norms, European, if you like,
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conservative and Christian. And yeah, I think that's the
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gist of the story. To answer your question and not
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to be too long winded, that's that's who and what we are and
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that's how we came to be. Now obviously on hearing that a
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knee jerk response could be here, but that sounds a bit
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racist. Yeah, I'm sure it does sound
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racist, but it's never racist when no white person can now or
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ever could buy a property in the Kingdom of Kwazulu or in any of
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the 9 Corsa sub kingdoms or in Baputatswana or it's not racist
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when you have the black accountants society.
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You know, it's just that it's a silly argument.
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It's a we're over it argument or that's how that's how we see it.
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You know, it was, it kind of worked for a time, but then it
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became patently hypocritical when South Africans were being
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persuaded by the media and by the rest of the world that they
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should accept and not resist the New South Africa rainbow nation.
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Nobody ever said, oh, and by the way, there is going to be
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reverse racism because there's a lot of catching up to do.
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They said it's going to be equal.
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Everybody will have equal opportunity.
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Equal, equal, equal, equal. And then you have things like
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our astonishing black economic empowerment laws which make it,
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I mean, it's a whole subject on its own.
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And you have things like a white people aren't allowed an
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organisation, but black people are.
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Black people can have, you know, Zulu organisations, you, you
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name it, this devoted to their tribe, to their village,
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exclusive of any race, any other tribe.
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And we remember we were told what was the slogan in the
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1980's, the late 80's, the chief slogan used by the anti
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apartheid movement was non racialism, non tribalism, non
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sexism. And now they they are overt
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organisations that represent certain tribes only.
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So you know people can say whatever they like really.
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It's just now patently asinine to make that argument.
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Yeah, you said reverse racism and a lot of academics and media
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types, Pooh, Pooh that. But yeah, anybody can go to
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racelaw.co dot Zedai. I have it open in front of me.
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And yes, here's what it says on the front page.
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South Africa's legal system is one of only a handful around the
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world that treats legal subjects differently based on their
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perceived race or skin colour. This has been the case for
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centuries, but most of the world assumes it comes sorry it came
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to an end in the 1990s and this is not the case.
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Race Law dot Sierra Zeta is a public interest initiative to
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index all the statuses, regulations, policies and
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Superior Court judgments that perpetuate racialism as a matter
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of law. Listen to this 324 Racial Acts
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of Parliament have been adopted since 1910, 122 of those Racial
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Acts of Parliament have been adopted since 1994, and 145
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Racial Acts of Parliament are operational today in the year
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2026. You see, yeah, it's silly,
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Jeremy. You know, in Group stuff is
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vital to everybody, but white people have been bullied out of
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thinking like that. in Group is fine for me, but not for thee.
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And we're just an organisation that says under international
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law chiefly, but not only the Protocols additional to the
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Geneva Conventions, provision is made for identifiable ethnic
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groups to act in a lawful manner in their best interests in
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anticipation of war. That's that's explicit.
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Anybody can look that up. Anybody can find the Protocols
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additional to the Geneva Conventions and read through
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them. I think Protocol 3 is almost
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totally irrelevant to such an exercise.
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But the early portions of Protocols one and two express
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this explicitly. So all that our boss, our leader
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and founder, Mr Gustav Miller did was he said we're going to
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do a legal, decent, respectable thing.
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We're not going to injure, we're not going to maim, we're not
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going to rob, we're not going to rape, of which there is so much
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in this country. Highest rape statistics in the
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world. Six of the top most dangerous
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cities in the world are South African, four of the top ten,
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six of the top 20 and four of the top ten.
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It's we have nothing to be ashamed of.
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No Saitlander has ever been convicted of a murder or a rape
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or a whatever with decent, ordinary, plain, respectable
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people who are under international law simply working
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to the prejudice of nobody to safeguard the welfare of our
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people in the event of a cataclysm in this country.
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And what's more, it should, it should be noted, I know you
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know, you're more politically correct.
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Viewers will struggle with this one.
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But if you live in a certain society, you understand it far
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better than this. The experts in the Northern
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Hemisphere, and as somebody who lives in this society, I know
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that if there's a cataclysm in this country of 1 description or
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another, there will be a fracturing on racial along
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racial lines. And it won't be a purely white
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thing. It won't be the whites saying,
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you know, let's gather together as a tiny minority and beat up
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all the blacks. We don't have control of the
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army. We don't have control of the
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police. We're we're about four and a
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half million people of an official population of 60
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million. That is generally regarded to be
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around about the 80 million marked by statisticians.
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You know the story. Every time we have a census in
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South Africa, some very learned man writes into the newspaper
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exposing the stats as silly. Four and a half million of 80
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million or 70 million or 60 million.
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It's the fracturing along racial lines will be driven mostly by
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black people. And I'm not saying that's a bad
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thing, because it is what has happened since forever.
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We live in an age where doctrine is regarded as having greater
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value than practical reality. I can distort reality with
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doctrine. So although I've never
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menstruated and the glands in my breasts are not sufficiently
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developed for me to lactate, and though I have no cervix and no
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womb and no birth canal, those things that I've just been
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mentioned are the defining characteristics of a woman.
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And they are determined by a 2X chromosomes.
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And although I don't have 2X chromosomes at the root, at the
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root, at the root of every cell in my body, I am not a woman yet
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I can say that I am. And so we live in a time when
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people can say that everybody can get along and it'll be
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delightful, but very seldom in history as that worked well for
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any sustained period. There are exceptions, but the
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exceptions prove the rule. When you when you point to Rome
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or Persia as two notable exceptions of places that
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incorporated the peoples around them in a in an accommodating
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manner, you stop there. You don't then go on to point
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out, Oh no, I've heard that the the Aborigines were very, very
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accepting because nobody has a third example.
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It's always Roman Persia. The reality is that I have
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guessed here, I've had a lot, many, many, many people come to
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visit me over the past few months to ask advice on the the
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Satanic timeline for the the ending of the world, which as I
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described to you sometime back, there's about a seven month
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window that began last Tuesday, the 17th of of February anyway.
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And the, the in the occult, I believe that humanity must be
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destroyed now. And a key date is the 2nd and
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3rd of March. Very, very key.
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My point being that throughout is history, when cataclysms have
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occurred, you run first to your mommy and your daddy and your
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brothers and your sister and your cousins.
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You run to people of the same church and faith and traditions
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and culture. It's the way that human beings
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are built. You can, you can argue all you
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like against it, but you know, Jeremy, this is, this becomes an
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uncomfortable subject, but I'm going to say it.
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You don't have to be especially bright upon discovering that 88%
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of our DNA is devoted to our brains to realise that
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mathematically that means that brains are very very very very
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much more different than skin and hair and teeth and whatever.
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When we are threatened, we always will and it will never
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change. Seek out those who are closest
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to us brain wise. Yeah.
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And everything that flows out of the brain.
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I'm not talking about whether you can do mental, you know,
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calculus in your head or something like that,
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trigonometry without a, a pencil and a piece of paper.
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I'm talking about everything, everything that flows out of our
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brains. We have in South Africa Weaver
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birds. And they, there's a huge variety
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of them and they all build their nests differently, but according
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to species, they all build them identically.
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It comes from within. It's not an artefact.
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My culture, my religion, my everything came from within the
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body corporate of those most like me.
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And there is some variety between, let's say, Eastern
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Orthodoxy and, and Roman Catholicism and Protestantism,
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but for the most part, they're practically identical when
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viewed from the perspective of a Hindu or an animist.
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You know, somebody who believes that there's a spirit in a tree
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or whatever, or an activist, somebody who believes in in
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ancestor worship. The divisions between us are
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enormous, and they come from within.
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That's how it works in science. They don't talk like modern
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human beings do in science, they know.
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In zoology and botany, for example, they know that it comes
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from within. It's not imposed.
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My behaviour, my culture, my traditions, my ways.
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My in ancient Rome, they had an expression that was meant to
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cover everything. Norms, mores and values.
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So what are my norms in you're in Rome.
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You want to know how to behave? Well, as a norm, we don't walk
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around naked. Oh, OK, make a note of that.
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As a norm, we don't pinch other men's wives bottoms.
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Oh, jolly good. Better watch out for that.
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As a norm, we have three meals a day and so on.
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What are our mores? What do we what do we believe is
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right and what is wrong? I should have used the the
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illustration of the other man's wife in the in the mores
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category. And what is right and wrong?
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OK, Everybody understands that and values.
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What do we cherish in the West? We cherish.
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We have. I'm going to use some examples.
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People may have have better ones that come to their minds.
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Perhaps ballet, perhaps art, perhaps the building of
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cathedrals and churches. So much so that the flying
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buttresses of Rouen Cathedral and similar similar places have
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never been replicated. They are the high point in the
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pinnacle of architecture. Clearly somebody thought that it
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was a very good idea to invest the, the then equivalent of
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trillions of dollars into flying buttresses because it's damn
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difficult. Those are we cherish that we we
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cherish the idea of formal education so that everybody has
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a, an identical basic knowledge of how the world functions and
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not just throwing the, the baby in the deep end of the swimming
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pool and watching some sink and some swim.
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That's how it works. Really how it works.
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And those people who doubt me should just be a little bit
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patient because given what's going on in bond markets and
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stock markets. And I'll illustrate with one
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point. Sorry to be so long winded, but
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if you're not sure, if you watch MSNBC and then you hear me talk
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and you think, got it. Gee, I wonder who's right?
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I'll settle the argument once and for all.
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In 1929 when the stock market crashed, the crash was prompted
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by the recognition of a bubble and people there therefore
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withdrawing the market, their money from the market.
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The bubble we don't have all the information that we would like
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to have was an average price to earnings ratio of an American
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stock of between 12 and 15. As I say, we can't be certain.
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So across all of the stocks traded on the stock markets in
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the United States of America, price to earnings ratio means
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that it takes a certain amount of time when you get dividends.
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I invest in Jeremy's company. He says to me, Simon, I promise
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you I'm going to give you half the profits every year and
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you'll never regret it. And I discover that those
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profits are 5000 Rand a year, but I put in a million Rand or
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£1,000,000 or $1,000,000. It's going to take me how many
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years to get my money back? And I start to think cheapest,
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I'm not going to fall for that again.
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So people were buying stocks for a certain amount of money.
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And on average, it took them 12 to 15 years to get the original
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capital back in the form of the the yearly dividend payment.
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And they perceived that that was absurd.
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And so the clever guys got out of the market.
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Right now the price to earnings ratio across all U.S. stock
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markets is 26. Let that sink in.
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But if you use a more nuanced way of measuring price to
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earnings, if you, if you extend it a little bit, if you don't
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just say, well, Jeremy gave me a great payout last year.
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Golly Gee, this is going to go on forever and ever and ever.
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If you measure it using the Cape Shiller Index or the Cape
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Shiller, I'm forgetting the word, then you measure over a 10
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year trailing period. So Jeremy says, oh Sam, I
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promise you this thing is going to work.
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I've been doing it for 10 years and it's worked.
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But I need a cash injection. You're the man for me, man.
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And I look at the books. If I use the Cape Shiller and I
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see what profits he's made over 10 years to assess whether he's
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as good as his word and this endeavour of his is profitable
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and it's worth me investing in. You will discover using the Cape
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Shiller that right now the US stock markets are at a price to
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earnings ratio of 41. And the Tesla, I haven't looked
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for a few weeks, but I believe it was 44 Fridays ago I looked,
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excuse me, and it was 400.01. That means that the level of
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mental retardation has risen right to the top that I've
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sincerely believe that it's worth waiting 400 years to get
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my money back. That's how insane global
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financial markets are at the moment.
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So I'm saying to the person who listens to this podcast, you can
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bet your very bottom dollar that within this year we're going to
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see a financial cataclysm the likes of which the world has
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never seen. Therefore, within this year, you
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will go are going to be able to assess for yourself whether I am
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100% right all of the time. Exceptions aside, they're always
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exceptions, but the exceptions are so few that they prove the
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rule. Therefore, for practical intents
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and purposes, I am 100% right all of the time when I make the
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proposition that everybody always reverts to type when
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reality bites. It's only during periods of
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excessive wealth and the breaking of the morals of a
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society, and when the intelligentsia has so much
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influence over society that they can propose to that society
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things which are patently nonsensical.
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So for now, you've got the upper hand.
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You're living wherever in the world, in San Francisco, and
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it's too good for words. Let's talk again in seven months
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time and then you tell me but didn't of direct observation.
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What did you see occur when that thing burst, when it all came
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crumbling down as it's about to do?
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Because many people don't even live to be 400 years, much less
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have an adult lifespan of 400 years to collect the the
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original investment in Tesla back.
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You are going to see it happen before your very eyes.
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It's as simple as that. Everybody will be in Group,
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everybody with no exceptions, in a very short span of time.
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I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with in Group
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preference. Jews have made a great success
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of in Group preference. I have an in Group preference
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for my family. I will put my family before
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other families. Does it mean that I hate other
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families Simon? No, of course not.
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Exactly. Yeah, as I say to people, where
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have you ever heard of a guy paying his next door neighbour
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children's school fees? There may be some exceptions
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here and there. We've all helped unfortunate
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children, but by and large, these wonderful idealistic
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concepts exist only as long as it doesn't cost you, as long as
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it makes you look virtuous, and so on.
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And it only takes such a marginal amount of your wealth
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that it scarcely counts. But when it really counts, all
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of the most politically correct people in all of the world
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suddenly abandoned these values that's all about them and their
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family. And they put up a wall between
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them and their neighbour. And they try not to look over
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it. And they hope that their
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neighbour never looks over either.
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It's it's nonsense, Jeremy. It astonishes me that anybody
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can fall for this way of thinking.
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You know, it's like when you see the immigrants into Britain.
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How anybody ever thought that was a good idea is beyond me.
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I will never understand how anybody was that stupid.
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Yeah. It was only one possible ending.
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Yeah. Something that that that that
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you and I can relate to is of course 1994 in South Africa and
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what happened in the 80s and how South Africa changed people
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around the world, unless they lived here, will never really
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understand. South Africa was established as
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a trading colony or as a trading post in 1652 for the Dutch East
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India Company. Move forward a couple of 100
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years and those first European settlers have gone into the
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interior and they've developed various things.
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They discovered diamonds and gold and all of a sudden the
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British Empire takes a very strong interest in South Africa,
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the largest greatest load of gold ever known to mankind.
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British Empire comes along, conquers the the indigenous
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white S Africans. Yeah, the boys and takes over
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South Africa from the year 19102 if you like ish through 1910,
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which is a key year on the establishment of the union of
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South Africa by Great Britain all the way through to 1961.
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So in all of that period, South Africa either didn't have a
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central government or it was ruled by Britain.
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Britain, let's go of the colony. And we have hang on, hang on,
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hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
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There were I think 2 worst states.
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Yes, there were, but there wasn't a central South African
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state. So so the the people that
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imposed apartheid, the laws, the central laws is unquestionably
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it's simply nobody but Great Britain come 1961, that's the
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inherited system. Great Britain leaves, we become
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a independent Republic and for 33 years there was a thing
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called apartheid and that apartheid was based on the laws
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imposed by Great Britain largely to do with labour and poll taxes
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and what have you. Prior to that there wasn't
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formal separation of races. There was effective separation
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of races. The white people came along and
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they said, oh, I've got to teach our kids to read our kids.
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That's what we do. We, I can my kids read.
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Whatever you're doing in your tribe has got nothing whatsoever
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to do with me. So there was in a practical
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sense separation, but it was never at all legal until the
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British said we've got to make this thing formal and we've got
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to find a way to drive African labour from Kwazulu Natal, one
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of the provinces, and the Eastern Cape particularly, but
31:04
not only onto the gold mines, because the British, when they
31:08
won the Boer War, took those gold mines for themselves. 7
31:11
Jewish families, roughly speaking, which was obviously
31:16
the key driver of the war. That entire war was about one
31:20
thing and one thing only, and that was giving possession
31:23
because it wasn't advantageous to the British, wasn't
31:25
advantageous to the black people of South Africa, and wasn't
31:28
advantageous to the Boers who had set up a Republic, which
31:32
happened, They didn't know in advance, obviously, to be
31:35
sitting on the greatest load of gold of history.
31:38
So the only people who benefited from the Boer War were those
31:42
families. No other party participant to it
31:46
benefited. Come 1994, the first multiracial
31:53
elections after 33 years of apartheid and the African
32:00
National Congress wins and all the laws are changed.
32:03
No separate schools, no separation of schooling by race,
32:10
but the many black economic empowerment laws were brought
32:14
in. In other words, you must have a
32:16
super preponderance of black people working in your company,
32:21
and there must be a super preponderance of black suppliers
32:24
who supply to you. What happened post 94 was very,
32:29
very strange because it was marketed as the Rainbow Nation.
32:34
Now that has been a complete failure of multiculturalism.
32:41
Yeah, you know, it doesn't, It doesn't work.
32:44
It's like it's like hip hop and rap music in the in the USA.
32:51
I'm not saying it's it's bad, but clearly black people in the
32:57
USA, for reasons known best to them, headed off in different
33:05
musical directions, including jazz and Blues and so on.
33:08
And some of it's fantastic. I'm crazy about Blues.
33:12
It's just that it's resonant to me.
33:14
But generally speaking, it doesn't come out of my culture.
33:18
And to them it's the ideal. It has huge following where's
33:23
you don't get overwhelming numbers of white people sing in
33:28
the Blues in the cotton fields. You know it's it's not so the
33:33
the rainbow nation idea was was cute, but I want to Bry with
33:40
that is to say BBQ with people who speak my language.
33:45
I'm not against Brying with black people.
33:50
Let me give you an example, classic example.
33:55
Over recent years, they have been tremendous if it's to give
34:01
land to black people to be farmed, and those efforts have
34:05
been a terrific failure. But here in the Eastern Cape,
34:10
there are some exceptions. We recently held an open day
34:16
that involved horse riding. There were 167 competitors.
34:22
Not one black person attended. Were we offended?
34:27
Were we hurt? Or was there a big drama?
34:30
Did we write secret messages to one another saying look how
34:34
racist the blacks are? No, it was, you know, Western
34:38
mounted games. We kind of knew who wanted to
34:42
participate in advance. We could have predicted it.
34:46
If black farmers get together to celebrate a key holiday in their
34:54
religion, so in in ancestor worship, as they do at key times
34:59
of the year, the chances of a white farmer arriving are
35:04
exactly 0. I've never even heard of it.
35:11
So the idea that we were all just going to blend in and
35:14
adopt, you know, you can take 6 eighths of my culture and I'll
35:17
take 7 thirteenths of yours and it's going to be delightful was
35:21
always daft. It was never predicated on the
35:25
instinctive tendencies or inclinations or preferences that
35:33
come from within us that make Weaver birds almost identical to
35:39
one another. But the marginal differences
35:42
between them cause them to build their nests in absolutely
35:48
different ways. The most curious way some are
35:51
entered from underneath. Others are huge big colonies
35:54
where thousands of birds share one nest, and each bird or each
35:58
mating pair has its own sort of secret entrance.
36:04
Tiny, tiny, tiny, minuscule differences in the species
36:09
change behaviour completely. And anybody who knows anything
36:12
about animals, All the farmers watching this, we'll just be
36:15
sort of sitting there unremarking because it's known
36:19
to science, it's only not known to the Super intellectualised of
36:29
modern Western society. Civil war that might or might
36:35
not arrive in the future. People will align with those who
36:41
are most like them and that is why St Landers exists.
36:45
It exists as an organisation to bring together a particular
36:50
group of people who might want to find themselves aligning with
36:55
one another in that unlikely event.
36:58
It's never worked any other way in all of human history.
37:03
When things get tough, you revert to type.
37:08
You abandon all of the ornaments that have no utilitarian value
37:17
of your, yourself, whether it be clothes or whatever the case may
37:21
be scrolling on TikTok. And you, you resort to the
37:28
things that really count and you do it in the most effective way.
37:33
If I have to negotiate with you, Jeremy, let's say you and I were
37:39
in a, in a, in a life and death situation and we had to we had
37:44
to find common ground over what prayers we were going to say and
37:49
to whom we were going to say them, you know, in desperation.
37:52
So panic stations. Hey, maybe we should call upon
37:55
the Lord or what book we're going to read for him to, to, to
38:01
granted, to gain wisdom. It doesn't work that way.
38:06
I run to Jeremy because I know that 99 Percent, 99.999% of what
38:15
we are is absolutely identical language, origin, body strength,
38:24
muscle explosiveness, IQ, tolerance for heat or cold or
38:31
whatever the case may be. The the the, the differences
38:34
between Jeremy and me are so little that it enables me to at
38:39
once gain an ally and share the burden of risk.
38:46
OK. So then that also means by
38:48
extension that it's not just a website or a group.
38:52
I mean, there is, there's actually a strategy.
38:55
Yeah, as I said to you earlier, I've got some guests visiting
38:59
and we were chatting about something.
39:01
There's a concept that I've described many times.
39:05
When I was a youngster, my chief sport was life saving,
39:11
lifeguarding, same thing, but you can do it as a sport all
39:14
around the world. And I grew up at a beach that
39:18
was world famous for at the 1974 World Life saving Championships,
39:23
the Australians and the Americans refused to participate
39:27
at that beach. They said it had to be moved.
39:29
They said whoever thought that this was a safe beach for
39:32
bathing needs their head read. People are going to die.
39:34
This is one of the most dangerous beaches on the world
39:37
in the world and simultaneously it had the high the record for
39:42
the greatest number of shark attacks of any beach in the
39:46
world at that time. So I grew up on a beach as a
39:51
lifesaver, as a champion lifesaver in very, very
39:54
dangerous conditions. And sometimes we swim out very
39:57
far to the shark Nets, which are staggered like this.
39:59
There's no other way to make them work.
40:01
So the idea is that the sharks come in and they're they're with
40:05
the bathers, but they sense that they're trapped it because to
40:11
them is it looks like they're trapped.
40:14
So they swim as fast as they can outward and they get caught.
40:18
By the gills in the Nets and every Monday the anti shark
40:22
measures board comes along and pulls up the Nets, pulls out the
40:24
dead sharks and takes them away. If you swim out to the Nets it's
40:30
very, very, very, very, very dangerous.
40:34
I did it on a number of occasions with my friends and on
40:37
every occasion some clever Dick, smart Alec would say as he's
40:43
getting nervous. 15 year old boy, knowing that he's being
40:46
very reckless, would say I don't have to be the best swimmer here
40:51
today. I only have to be the second
40:53
slowest if we see a fin. My point being that to go from
40:59
this is what I was discussing with my guests.
41:01
To go from indefensible to defensible is not a matter of
41:06
getting a Cobra helicopter gunship.
41:10
You don't have to have a machine gun to go from being very, very,
41:15
very vulnerable to exceedingly less vulnerable.
41:20
You only have to make minimal efforts.
41:23
And our mentality is that if we provide basics, we don't have a
41:30
trillion dollars to buy everybody.
41:32
Let's say we get 100,000 refugees.
41:35
So that's 100 million Rand in our money just on sleeping bags,
41:41
about 1000 Rand, a sleeping bag, whatever that translates to in
41:44
pounds, we've called it 50 lbs, however many dollars, roughly
41:48
speaking, just as a rule of thumb, we are never going to be
41:52
able to conduct our national emergency plan in that manner.
41:56
So we say we're going to build a house, everybody bring 1 brick
42:02
and we'll be OK because we won't be perfectly defensible.
42:12
But the shark goes for the slowest swimmer, it goes for
42:17
what's closest to him. The first people in any conflict
42:21
to suffer are people who don't have groups around them.
42:24
The the, the, the head, the founder of Shit hits the fan
42:28
school is Jaeko, famous guru in the world of preppers.
42:32
He lived through a year long siege in Bosnia Herzegovina as
42:36
part of a small group of Croats that was trapped during the
42:39
breakup of Yugoslavia. So for one year no electricity,
42:42
no running water, no food and he took what he learned then to the
42:47
USA and made a lot of money and famously said when I go dark you
42:51
know that the USA is about to go terminal.
42:54
He said I will know when it is and he went dark sometime last
42:57
year. I was told just went dark, shut
43:01
down the the website so I was told and can't be found.
43:05
Anyway, point being that he says he has a fantastic course or
43:09
used to have, in which he maps what what are the first the
43:13
first the first the first of the first of the first of the first
43:15
things. Don't be alone.
43:18
The the vulnerability of a of an old lady versus the
43:23
vulnerability of three heavy smokers is as far as the Easters
43:30
from the West. It's not that you have to be
43:33
Jackie Chan and that you have to have a machine gun.
43:36
As long as you've got 10 people around you who are moderately
43:41
defensible, the jackals and the hyenas of this world will go for
43:48
the little old lady every single time.
43:52
So the idea of Saitlanders is we don't have to have the world's
43:56
perfect plan. We just have to gather together
43:59
as far as possible in one place and endeavour to remove
44:03
ourselves from the conflict. If other people want civil war,
44:06
they have welcome to it. We don't, and together we will
44:10
get by. We just have to to fill in the
44:14
blanks of the basic tenets of survivability according to real
44:22
life, in the real world. So we have a national emergency
44:25
plan to come together to support one another, to to grow crops,
44:30
to purify water, generate electricity.
44:33
Young men provide a, a, a, a border would stabilise a border
44:38
or protect a border, defend the border.
44:42
Yeah, that's, that's the long and the shorts of of it, Jeremy.
44:46
That's what I love about what you just said though, and even
44:50
if that kind of thing doesn't play out, the process of
44:56
learning is still very valuable. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
45:02
Very. I, I don't know that I'm going
45:04
to make it. I believe in the prophecies of
45:06
Cena for Rainsburg. And he said that in the January,
45:13
February, March period, he used very specific words, the yellow
45:16
Peach rains. The yellow Peach rains in South
45:18
Africa fall between the first week of January, 1st week of
45:21
March, last week of January, 1st week of March, he said.
45:24
A cataclysm breaks out in the world.
45:27
He said after that, this prophet God to which I alluded to whom I
45:32
alluded earlier, he said after that in about September or
45:35
October, again he did it by signs and seasons and the how
45:38
green the grasses and how cold the winter is.
45:41
So we know that he was referring to sometime between September
45:46
and October ish. He said that fire that rages
45:50
across the world will come to South Africa.
45:55
I might be one of the people who dies.
45:59
That's real life in the real world.
46:01
People died in the English Civil War.
46:03
Nobody asked them, you know, How do you feel about this?
46:05
Sorry, man? In World War One, World War Two,
46:10
people were incinerated by the Americans wholesale in Vietnam,
46:14
in in in the Vietnam War in Iraq, the generally accepted
46:20
figure on both sides of the aisle of the number of innocent
46:23
civilians that died during the American occupation is 1 million
46:29
or more, not less. That's real life in the real
46:34
world. The real life and the real world
46:37
that we modern people have been insulated from since forever,
46:42
providing us the luxury of being able to over indulge in in
46:47
drinking. And here I point the finger at
46:49
me, not at you all do overindulge in food, overindulge
46:53
in smoking and not being healthy.
46:55
And you know, this and that bad behaviour with women that that
47:00
we all know what life in the modern world is, has allowed us
47:05
to do and to pretend that I'm a woman, though I've never once
47:12
menstruated, not even once. I could squeeze my chest for a
47:18
month of Sundays. I wouldn't be able to sustain an
47:21
infant on it and the rest. But it's completely delusional
47:26
is my point. But in what the time that we
47:31
believe is emerging before our very eyes?
47:36
It's not going to be a case of can I guarantee my survival in
47:42
such circumstances. Who could get aeroplane comes
47:46
over and drops, drops a napalm and Vietnamese village.
47:53
But if all the villages of Vietnam, or many of them,
47:58
certain certain villages in Vietnam had spent 20 or 25 years
48:05
learning and practising and rehearsing and meditating on
48:11
improving their chances of survival, then there's going to
48:15
be a, there would have been a disproportionately high survival
48:18
rate among, let's say, let's say among people, among people of
48:23
Cambodia. It would have been a
48:26
disproportionately high survival rate if all of the among people
48:30
had been doing that. So we're not guaranteeing
48:33
anybody anything. It's war for goodness sake, man.
48:35
What do you think? But we are saying if you make a
48:38
little bit of effort, you will improve your chances of not
48:44
suffering grievously should such terrible events transpire.
48:49
Then if you didn't. And sorry, Jeremy, to hug the
48:51
microphone. I want to make a brief last
48:53
comment. I'm very close.
48:55
I have three sons. And people remark on it all the
48:58
time. You know, it's cheapest.
48:59
I've never seen a father that's so close to his sons.
49:03
One's 25, one's 23 and one is 16.
49:09
And we maintain a very, very, very, very close relationship.
49:14
I, more than anybody else, am terrified that Donald Trump is
49:21
going to start World War Three on the second of of March, as
49:29
per this this occultic date, and that my son's lives are going to
49:34
be ruined forever. So please, if there's anybody
49:37
watching this who has the idea that Simon just can't wait to
49:41
shoot black people, he's just dying for it all to go down in
49:45
South Africa and for families and children and everybody to
49:50
die. You've got rocks in your head.
49:54
I think I felt as if I had to say that because some people
49:56
really are dumb. I get it, but that's because I'm
50:04
South African. But you know, something I was
50:07
thinking about, Simon, is you look at China, right?
50:11
It's, it's got a super majority of, of Han people, about over
50:15
90%, I think, right? It's it's in many ways
50:19
monocultural. Yes.
50:23
And nobody accuses them of being racist for wanting to keep it
50:27
that way. Yeah, yeah, I watched Lei's real
50:33
talk. I find it fascinating to to get
50:36
an insight into into China. And she's she's talking at the
50:41
moment about the XI Jinping's assassination of these two top
50:46
generals who were opposing him going to war with Taiwan.
50:50
So they were this kind of last obstacle in the, all these
50:53
dramas going, going on at the moment at the highest levels in,
50:57
in China. And I've watched so many hours
51:01
of lay talk about these things that I, I understand exactly
51:06
what you're saying. You know, I've, I've come to,
51:07
I've never been to China. I, I had my best, my bestest,
51:12
longest friend. I always say to people lives in
51:14
China and he's married to a Chinese and we, I, we haven't
51:19
seen each other for about 20 years, but he, he's for sure.
51:22
I mean, we just keep in touch and I adore him.
51:25
So I know a little bit about China, but not much.
51:28
And I've learned a lot from Lay. And one thing is clear, boy,
51:32
it's my way or the highway. The, the, the, the, let's say
51:39
the Uyghur people. I don't want to jump on that
51:40
Uyghur train. You know, that's not what I'm,
51:42
I'm trying to do. I'm not trying to, to, to stir
51:45
trouble. It's just the first ethnic name
51:50
from China that comes to mind. We are predominant.
51:55
You play by our rules and that's the end of it.
51:59
The Uyghurs maintain their religion and I suppose cultural
52:03
things, and they do things their way.
52:06
They toe the party line of the established culture that is
52:11
imposed by the Han people. But nobody accuses one another
52:16
of being racist or it's you have your way.
52:20
I have my way where I call the shots.
52:24
I will call the shots where you have a preponderance of people,
52:29
you're doubtless going to build mosques and you're doubtless
52:32
going to talk a, a dialect that offends me, but which is your
52:37
dialect and which is precious to you.
52:39
And you're doubtless going to make your, your women do that
52:42
thing. And yeah, that's the way it is.
52:44
I I don't think you're being a racist and I don't feel like I'm
52:47
being a racist either. I mean, I'm at the point now
52:50
where I'm not even endeavouring to proselytise anymore.
52:54
If the Americans wish to commit cultural suicide and Europe
52:59
clearly wishes to do so, well, so be it.
53:03
I'm now at that point where it's just about me and my small
53:06
group. It's, you know, that I was
53:11
telling somebody earlier the three best things you can do as
53:14
a prepper or survivalist by father Three.
53:18
I'll watch the documentary on YouTube.
53:22
The two the 1 is much inferior that one is the other is much
53:26
superior. The long form.
53:29
I think it's two hours 43 minutes and documentary on
53:32
YouTube about the worst year in human history, the year 536 AD
53:38
and the 19 years after it when all of almost all of mankind
53:42
nearly died or did die. Read the book Patriots by James
53:49
Wesley Rawls and do the now no longer existing shitheads the
53:55
Fans school.com Jaco course in which he makes it clear you
54:01
don't have to go into a civil war with mortars and bazookas
54:07
and what have you. All you have to to begin with,
54:11
to begin with first steps is have a team around you that's
54:14
loyal to you. Don't be an individual,
54:17
particularly if you're old. Don't be isolated and go to a
54:21
place that gives you favour because when you and your team
54:25
are holed up in that, in that space, people will like an
54:31
animal. He uses the example he says.
54:33
We've all watched those National Geographic videos in his thick,
54:37
thick, thick, thick, thick Balkan accent in which we can't
54:41
understand why the Mountain Lion didn't.
54:44
It would have killed the dog. Why didn't it go for the dog?
54:46
Because the Mountain Lion has to get through winter and it knows
54:49
that it probably won't if it if it's got a broken leg, the dog
54:53
has no chance against the Mountain Lion, but it will enter
54:57
the Mountain Lion. And that's why predators usually
54:59
go for very much weaker prey. They don't go for prey that is
55:04
just one echelon beneath them. They go 3 echelons down and and
55:11
I've lost my train of thought now.
55:12
But my point being that that if you just do the basics, if you
55:18
just observe and recognise the basics of human survival, how
55:25
people got through the worst year in history, how who
55:29
survived in Bosnia and Yugoslavia when it broke up and
55:33
who died. If you just follow the basics of
55:36
you bit of common sense, yeah, people won't attack your house.
55:43
Not because you're super duper, duper super, super defensible.
55:48
It's because you're not the weakest.
55:51
A gang of armed marauders who could easily beat you doesn't
55:56
want to suffer a meat cleaver to the forest, to the forehead.
56:02
You know, they know they'll win like the Mountain Lion and the
56:05
dog, but they know that they'll take wounds that they'll regret.
56:09
So they always go for the for the weakest.
56:12
And I, I forgot where we started there and I apologise to you,
56:15
Jeremy, but somehow I thought that was relevant.
56:17
I think I've messed it up a bit. I just realised that we went
56:22
through this entire discussion saying Saitlanders but without
56:26
explaining what it means. It's an Afrikaans word.
56:28
I know we've we've had to explain this many times, but you
56:32
can always explain it again. Yeah, people might translate it
56:36
as Southerners in, in colloquial English, that's the word that we
56:42
would use. But it's a, it's a, it's a, it's
56:46
a translation that doesn't do justice to the Afrikaans
56:50
language, particularly certain terms used in the Bible.
56:54
And therefore the better translation is Southlanders, the
56:58
people of the Southland. And yeah, we are the the
57:03
Europeans who occupy the southern tip of Africa.
57:08
Yeah, I mean the word said Landers, I think just sounds
57:11
better than saying S the Landers.
57:13
It's just a nicer. It just flows off the tongue
57:15
better. Yes.
57:19
OK, well, I mean, as we come in for a landing, Simon, I was
57:23
actually looking for a better, a better metaphor, the landing as
57:27
we come in for a better. Help me out here with one that's
57:31
relatable to our conversation as we come in for the.
57:42
The moral of the story is what? The moral of the story is that
57:47
people can say and think and believe whatever they like.
57:51
Cow legs, walks on 4 legs. Men have certain
57:56
characteristics, women have other characteristics, and in
58:01
times of critical danger, people always seek out those with whom
58:12
they have the most in common. And as we in the Western world
58:18
begin to explore a general cataclysm, you know, the
58:21
invasion of Europe, the the, the stock market madness, all of
58:27
these things as this boil or pimple comes to a an inevitable
58:33
head which everybody can see happening.
58:35
Are you daft if you can't see that what I've just said is
58:39
going to be proven right over and over and over again and the
58:43
best thing that people can do is not attempt the impossible.
58:49
That is to say, don't think, oh gosh, I think there might be a
58:54
civil war in Britain one day. I need an atomic bomb.
58:57
If you want to survive, you just need a bunch of mates, a bit of
59:01
a plan, a destination to head for you.
59:05
You need to be just a little bit defensible than the next guy.
59:08
You can buy lasers that are extremely powerful. 11 got
59:11
burned. I've got heavy, heavy heavy
59:13
boots and he switched it on and he immediately burned a hole
59:16
through the boots. He was trying to prove a point.
59:19
You can buy torches nowadays that can blind people.
59:22
Pepper spray. I've been pepper sprayed twice
59:24
in my life and let me tell you, it's very much worse than you
59:27
might think. It's completely debilitating.
59:30
Buy yourself a bow and arrow, buy a a a sling, buy a catapult.
59:35
Go to a safe place, have a a plan, get some extra fuel.
59:39
The moral of the story is that trouble is coming, and whether
59:45
you like it or not, you're going to find yourself depending upon
59:50
those who are closest to you, kith and kin.
59:54
You might as well start now. And don't panic about not having
59:59
some foolproof plan. You don't need to be the fastest
1:00:02
swimmer in the world, and you only need to be not the slowest.
1:00:06
And the moment you make that much effort, the moment you do
1:00:10
that much, you already move. Let's say the there are 100
1:00:13
echelons of preparedness. You're in it.
1:00:16
You're a male in your 40s and you're fairly healthy.
1:00:19
So you would like to believe that you're not in the lowest
1:00:21
echelon, you're in echelon #30. To go from 30 to 70 or 80 is the
1:00:27
easiest thing in the world. To get to 100, yes, you need a
1:00:30
Cobra helicopter gunship and you need nukes and all of that kind
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of stuff. But to to get yourself out of
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danger very far removed from the shark is easy peasy.
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It's 100 litres of fuel. It's a some pepper spray.
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It's a location that is a little bit more remote.
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It's a clean water source, it's some food, and it's 10 buddies,
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each armed with a catapult. Yes, that's ridiculous against
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the nuclear bomb, but most people never ever.
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It's not how wars are fought. In no war in history, as 100% of
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the people died. It's usually between 10 and 20%
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of the combatants. So it's a small fraction in
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order for you, you to elevate yourself out of the most
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vulnerable that small fraction. Exceptions aside, some, some of
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the best prepared people will also die.
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But generally it's the most vulnerable for you to get from
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here to here. Easy, easiest thing in the
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world. Do it.
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Do it like we're doing it here in South Africa, Saitlanders.
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And the website is. Saitlanders.org.
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No. Do you just type
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saitlanders.org? There you see the spelling
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SUIDLANDER s.org. That's our English language
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website. All right, Simon Rush, thank you
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for joining me in the trenches. No, Thank you very much for
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having Saitlan as Jeremy. We always appreciate it.