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The Kenny Report | 25 September · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Lone from the Skying You Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report, Thanks for joining me.
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Speaker 1: Headline Inflation goes down, but your interest rates stay up
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Speaker 1: because Labour's attempt to con the Reserve Bank with your
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Speaker 1: tax dollars has failed. Don't say we didn't warn you.
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Speaker 1: Protesters on Sydney's streets. Where the symbol of banned Islamist
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Speaker 1: terrorist group Hesbalah. Where are our law enforcement authorities and
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Speaker 1: political leaders? Another reckless renewable project. This time they're going
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Speaker 1: to bulldoze through Koala habitat and the concerns of local
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Speaker 1: farmers the latest Welcome to Country controversy. I reckon it's
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Speaker 1: a big misunderstanding, but I'll get the counterpoint from Pauline Hansen,
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Speaker 1: Shadow treasurer Angus Taylor on Labour's negative gearing plans and
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Speaker 1: the Wednesday Ranglelong all the craziness in this wonderful world,
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Speaker 1: let's get into it. Labor is claiming an economic victory
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Speaker 1: over your cost of living crisis, but in reality their
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Speaker 1: shoddy economic management has been exposed and that's why your
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Speaker 1: interest rates are staying high. Instead of doing the hard
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Speaker 1: yards and trimming spending and lowering the cost of electricity,
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Speaker 1: like they promised they would. Anthony Albanezi and Jim Charmers
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Speaker 1: used billions of dollars of your money to try to
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Speaker 1: trick the Reserve Bank, and it failed, failed as it
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Speaker 1: always was going to do.
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Speaker 2: Let me explain.
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Speaker 1: The official inflation figure came out today, and superficially it
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Speaker 1: was good news. It dropped below three percent to two
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Speaker 1: point seven percent, right where the Reserve Bank wants it
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Speaker 1: to go, so that we can get some interest rate
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Speaker 1: relief and the Treasurer, who is always smug and self
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Speaker 1: satisfied no matter how tough the cost of living crisis,
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Speaker 1: gets well today he was again applauding his own work.
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Speaker 1: Are very welcome, very encouraging, and very heartening numbers. The
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Speaker 1: trouble is they're actually not a large part of the
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Speaker 1: fall happened because power prices had been artificially and temporarily
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Speaker 1: pushed downwards by federal and state government subsidies. So the
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Speaker 1: underlying inflation rate, the trimmed mean or the real inflation
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Speaker 1: rate if you like, did not drop as low. That
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Speaker 1: rate is still at three point four percent, which is
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Speaker 1: higher than the RBA needs it to be to lower rates.
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Speaker 1: It needs inflation to be between two and three percent. Now,
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Speaker 1: this is very important to understand because it explains why
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Speaker 1: rates are remaining high, and it demonstrates how Charmers and
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Speaker 1: Albineasi have been busy spending your money on what they
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Speaker 1: hoped would be a tricky political fix, artificially suppressing power
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Speaker 1: prices with taxpayers money instead of doing what they promised
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Speaker 1: to do, that is deliver an official tricity grid providing
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Speaker 1: cheaper power to those not singing Labour's tune. This was
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Speaker 1: obvious back in May on budget day when it was
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Speaker 1: first announced. It doesn't do anything to stop costs going higher,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't actually fix the underlying problem, and the following
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Speaker 1: day we went into more detail about what Labor was
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Speaker 1: trying to do. The big trick of this budget, the
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Speaker 1: attempted con is a huge gamble. Labor is hoping that
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Speaker 1: the three hundred dollars per household power rebate, money paid
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Speaker 1: directly to your electricity provider to keep your bill lower,
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Speaker 1: will trigger an artificial reduction in inflation, push inflation down
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Speaker 1: with taxpayers money, and they think that that might trick
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Speaker 1: the Reserve Bank into lowering rates. Now, surely this is
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Speaker 1: unlikely because the bank knows that This doesn't do anything
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Speaker 1: about the underlying cause of higher electricity prices, and it
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Speaker 1: knows that when the rebate cuts out then that cost
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Speaker 1: is going to go straight back onto consumers. Now, it's sure,
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Speaker 1: it's nice to show you that that analysis turns out
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Speaker 1: to be right, but the crucial point is that this
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Speaker 1: exposes just how cynical and lazy labor have been. We
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Speaker 1: could see it all along, because this is exactly how
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Speaker 1: it's come to pass. Albanisi and charmers might have conned
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Speaker 1: some voters and they might have conned their barrickers in
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Speaker 1: the Canberra press gallery, but they didn't con the Reserve Bank.
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Speaker 1: In fact, the governor warned about this and predicted it.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday in her statement. Michel Bullock predicted a full in
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Speaker 1: headline inflation, and importantly she called it temporary because of
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Speaker 1: these cost of living measures, but she still didn't see
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Speaker 1: inflation sustainably returning to the target rate until twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 1: and she then reinforced this point in her media conference.
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Speaker 3: One thing that we we are expecting with tomorrow's monthly
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Speaker 3: cpis that we will expect to see the cost of
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Speaker 3: living relief come into play, and that what that's going
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Speaker 3: to do, is that's going to lower energy prices. If
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Speaker 3: tomorrow we get an inflation number which has got a
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Speaker 3: two in front of it, so it's back in the band.
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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that we've got inflation under control. It
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Speaker 3: doesn't mean that inflation is sustainably back within the band.
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Speaker 3: It just means it's back there at the moment.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the governor still says underlying inflation, real inflation
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Speaker 1: looks like staying too high for more than a year.
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Speaker 1: Yet in fact, look out for inflation sparking again, of course,
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Speaker 1: when Labour's lazy subsidies run out. So let's recap Labour's
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Speaker 1: performance on inflation and interest rates. First, they promised.
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Speaker 4: The world Labor has real, lasting plans for cheaper electricity, cheaperdcare,
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Speaker 4: cheaper mortgages.
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Speaker 1: And instead rates went up a dozen times and they've
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Speaker 1: stayed up. And when Labour failed to control spending and
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Speaker 1: failed to push power prices down and failed to ease
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Speaker 1: the cost of living, it started bashing the Reserve Bank.
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Speaker 1: The treasurer said monetary policy was smashing the economy, and
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Speaker 1: his old boss and mentor, Wayne Swamp, the ALP National President,
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Speaker 1: went even further.
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Speaker 5: The drivers of inflation in this country are not going
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Speaker 5: to be affected and not going to come down by
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Speaker 5: hammering mums and dads with higher rates. The Reserve Bank
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Speaker 5: is simply punching itself in the face. It's counterproductive and
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Speaker 5: it's not good to economic policy, and I'm incredibly disappointed
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Speaker 5: at what they're doing.
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Speaker 1: And now, after all that Reserve Bank bashing, we've seen
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Speaker 1: how Labour's effort to trick the bank using three and
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Speaker 1: a half billion dollars of your money, Well, it didn't
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Speaker 1: do it. It's full and flat. It fooled. No one
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Speaker 1: bank saw through it, and you and I are stuck
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Speaker 1: with higher interest rates for the foreseeable future and power
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Speaker 1: prices that will jump up again when Labour's attempted con
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Speaker 1: runs out. But wait, there's more Now, Labor is coming
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Speaker 1: for real estate investments too. Remember when Bill Shorten led
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Speaker 1: Labor at the twenty nineteen election, he promised to pull
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Speaker 1: back on negative gearing and capital gains tax concessions. It
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Speaker 1: was dumb policy. It would exacerbate our housing crisis rather
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Speaker 1: than fix it. But anyway, that meant that at the
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Speaker 1: last election Labor promised to leave all this alone. We
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Speaker 1: will provide that certainty and stability when it comes to
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Speaker 1: the existing negative gearing and capital gains tax regimes. But
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Speaker 1: now we're told that Treasury are working up plans to
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Speaker 1: cut back on negative gearing and or change capital gains
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Speaker 1: tax rules, and the Prime Minister does not rule it out.
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Speaker 4: Treasury, I'm sure, like other departments, to a range of proposals,
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Speaker 4: policy ideas. I want a public service that is full
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Speaker 4: of ideas.
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Speaker 1: If Labor does anything in this space, it'll be one
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Speaker 1: more broken promise to add to the list, and it
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Speaker 1: won't ease the housing crisis. It'll only make it worse.
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Speaker 1: I put it to Shadow treasurer Angus Taylor that Labour's
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Speaker 1: trickery has failed to calm the Reserve Bank. They won't
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Speaker 1: be conned.
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Speaker 6: The Reserve Bank won't be conned. This government constantly deals
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Speaker 6: with the symptoms of inflation rather than going to the source.
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Speaker 6: They're always putting a band aid on a bullet warned Chris,
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Speaker 6: and it won't work. And the Reserve Bank yesterday, the
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Speaker 6: Governor couldn't have been clearer. The statement from the Reserve
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Speaker 6: Bank couldn't have been clearer. They have to see sustained
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Speaker 6: reductions inflation, not temporary reductions. And what the government has
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Speaker 6: done is a temporary reduction which will come straight back
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Speaker 6: on next year and the Reserve Pack is just not
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Speaker 6: going to take any notice of that, and frankly are
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Speaker 6: Australians because they've got to pay for it again next year.
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Speaker 6: So look, this is exactly what we see from this government.
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Speaker 6: Everything is politics, but when it comes to inflation, you've
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Speaker 6: got to deal with the underlying policy, the source of
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Speaker 6: the problem. And that's what this government refuses to do
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Speaker 6: because they're out of their depth and they're out of
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Speaker 6: their touch when it comes to fighting and beating inflation.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well there were two points on that really.
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Speaker 1: First of all, when it comes to electricity prices, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the way to tackle that is to actually put in
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Speaker 1: policies that gives us cheaper and more reliable electricity and
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Speaker 1: that will depress inflation, rather than using taxpayers money to
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Speaker 1: artificially subsidize electricity prices. You're not dealing with the real
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Speaker 1: problem there. Well, it's because they've failed. They've failed.
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Speaker 6: I mean, they promised to two hundred and seventy five
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Speaker 6: dollars reduction.
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Speaker 2: We haven't seen that.
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Speaker 6: We've seen obviously huge increases in electricity prices since labor
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Speaker 6: came to power at the same time as emissions have
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Speaker 6: gone up.
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Speaker 7: Chris.
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Speaker 6: This is how badly Chris Bowen has failed on his
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Speaker 6: policy objectives. He's not even close. And so now they're
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Speaker 6: handing out subsidies which ultimately don't solve the underlying inflation
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Speaker 6: problem and don't help to bring interest rates down, which
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Speaker 6: we desperately want and need to see as soon as possible.
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Speaker 6: So the government will pat itself on the back for
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Speaker 6: doing what for not solving the problem? But it seems
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Speaker 6: to be a recurring pattern.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's the other side, the other fork in this
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Speaker 1: economic policy, if you could call it, that is that
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Speaker 1: the subsidies come off.
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Speaker 2: They come off next year.
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Speaker 1: And so if we saw this headline inflation rate drop
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Speaker 1: down now the Reserve Bank and consumers, no, it's going
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Speaker 1: to come back up again when the subsidies come off,
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Speaker 1: a power prices jump. And that's exactly right, Chris.
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Speaker 6: And even more than that, what we saw in the
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Speaker 6: data today is that the trim demean the core inflation
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Speaker 6: rate is still well above target. We are at the
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Speaker 6: back of the pack compared to other peer countries around
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Speaker 6: the world in terms of bringing inflation down. Our inflation
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Speaker 6: is higher than every other major advanced country outside of
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Speaker 6: the UK, and they're a basket case economically right now.
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Speaker 6: That's not where we want to be, but it's actually
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Speaker 6: where we're at, and the Reserve Bank understands that the
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Speaker 6: statement from the Governor and the press conference was very sober.
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Speaker 6: It recognized that labor productivity in this country has been
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Speaker 6: in absolute free fall, over six percent reduction since Labor
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Speaker 6: came to power. It recognized that immigration is making excessive
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Speaker 6: immigration is making the situation far worse, and that we're
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Speaker 6: still a long way from getting to where we need
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Speaker 6: to if we're going to restore Australians standard of living,
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Speaker 6: and there's no sign of that happening anytime soon now.
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Speaker 1: Going back when Bill Shorten was leading Labor and they
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Speaker 1: tried to win an election by being honest about their
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Speaker 1: policy agenda and failed, of course, but he promised then
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Speaker 1: to get rid of some of the tax concessions for
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Speaker 1: real estate investments, negative gearing and capital gains tax concessions Labor.
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Speaker 1: This time under Jim Charmers and Anthony Alberaneze, he promised to.
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Speaker 2: Leave all that alone. But we learn now that.
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Speaker 1: Treasury is actually looking at negative gearing changes.
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Speaker 6: Exactly right. You can't trust labor when it comes to
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Speaker 6: tax Chris. Already they're going after frankin credits. We've seen
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Speaker 6: that they're going after superannuation, they're imposing a tax on
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Speaker 6: unrealized capital gains, and now we learn that they're secretly
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Speaker 6: working on a plan to impose a tax on negative
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Speaker 6: gearing on capital gains tax, effectively a housing tax.
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Speaker 1: This is the problem.
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Speaker 8: Sorry for me jumping in there, Yeah, sorry, But apart
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Speaker 8: from the broken promise, the problem here isn't it is.
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Speaker 8: If you want more housing available, if you want more
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Speaker 8: renters to be able to get into accommodation, you don't
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Speaker 8: tax real estate investment.
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Speaker 1: You encourage it.
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Speaker 6: It's a great rule of taxation when you learn about
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Speaker 6: taxation in economics that if you want less of something,
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Speaker 6: you tax it more. And they clearly want less housing.
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Speaker 6: It's bizarre, but we know they have a vision of
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Speaker 6: housing which is completely at odds with the Australian people.
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Speaker 6: They want houses to be apartments. If people want to
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Speaker 6: live in an apartment, knock yourself out. But a lot
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Speaker 6: of Australians want free standing houses. They want them built
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Speaker 6: by the CFMEU because they're their mates, and they want
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Speaker 6: them owned by big investment funds and rented by Australians.
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Speaker 2: That's their vision of housing.
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Speaker 6: They don't want a local plumber or local chippy who's
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Speaker 6: bought a couple of houses and done them up and
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Speaker 6: then is renting them out.
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Speaker 1: They hate that. That's not the labor vision.
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Speaker 6: Well, it's my picture of what a good housing policy
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Speaker 6: looks like, a good housing outcome looks like, and it's
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Speaker 6: much closer I think to the genuine Australian dream, which
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Speaker 6: we've been losing in recent years, of owning your home
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Speaker 6: over time you're rent off and when you're younger, and
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Speaker 6: that I think is an essential part of what it
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Speaker 6: is to grow up and develop have a family in Australia.
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Speaker 2: I think you're right.
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Speaker 1: I think it's the Australian way and if they want
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Speaker 1: to have that fight coming up to the next election,
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Speaker 1: you can add that to their list of problems.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us acause, Taylor, I appreciate it. Good
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Speaker 2: on you, Chris Now.
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Speaker 1: I sometimes think that my great mate Joe Johanna Sleek
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Speaker 1: and myself often think about the same things in similar ways.
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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what he's way. Ahead of me
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Speaker 1: this time. Have look at his cartoon for The Australian tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: He's just sended through and he's seen the obvious paradox
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Speaker 1: between the two big stories of the week.
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Speaker 2: He's got Albo.
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Speaker 1: They're saying, don't fall for illusory tax cuts or discounts, sorry,
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Speaker 1: illusory discounts from the supermarkets. But on the other hand,
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Speaker 1: power bills down in headline inflation down, down, down, says Albo,
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Speaker 1: and Jarber's full for their illusory inflation claims. So the
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Speaker 1: paradox there is beautiful, well done. Johanna's brilliant stuff. We'll
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Speaker 1: have a look at that again with the Wednesday Rangle
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Speaker 1: later in the program, and don't forget it'll be in
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Speaker 1: the Australian tomorrow now. Speaking of The Australian, as I
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Speaker 1: wrote in that paper on the weekend, there's been a
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Speaker 1: resurgence of controversy over welcomes to country now. As I've
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Speaker 1: often said here and as I wrote on the weekend,
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Speaker 1: sometimes they're overdone, and sometimes they're overly political, and sometimes
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Speaker 1: they're just too long and boring, but done in the
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Speaker 1: right way at the right time. I think they're great.
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Speaker 1: I think they're inclusive, educational and all that. But what
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Speaker 1: I can't really understand is why people got angry about
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Speaker 1: the particular ceremony that prompted the latest round of acrimony.
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Speaker 1: It was at the AFL final between the Giants and
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Speaker 1: the Lions the weekend before last.
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Speaker 2: Have a listen, I'm.
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Speaker 9: Here this evening to perform a ceremony, the ceremony of
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Speaker 9: welcome to country. A welcome to country is not a
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Speaker 9: welcome to Australia. Within Australia, we have many Aboriginal lands
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Speaker 9: further our lands as country, so it's always so welcome
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Speaker 9: to the lands you're gathered on. Well, welcome to country
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Speaker 9: is not a ceremony that we've invented to cater for
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Speaker 9: white people. It's a ceremony we've been doing for two
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Speaker 9: hundred and fifty thousand years plus BC, and the BC
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Speaker 9: stands for before Cook.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, I thought that was terrific, but others didn't
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Speaker 1: let me bring in Pauline Hanson, who wants people to
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Speaker 1: turn their backs on welcomes to country ceremonies. So thanks
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Speaker 1: for joining us again, Pauline. What didn't you like about
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Speaker 1: that particular welcome to country? Oh?
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Speaker 10: Come on, Chrissy, says from the starters two hundred and
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Speaker 10: fifty thousand years when I was grown up as twenty thousand,
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Speaker 10: forty thousand and sixty sixty five.
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Speaker 1: Thousand, we know that's right.
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Speaker 10: We know that now two hundred fifty thousand. Okay, stop exaggerating.
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Speaker 10: I'm telling people this. So it's another thing there. It's
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Speaker 10: not there for the white people, right well, who the hell.
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Speaker 10: I'm sick of the racist connotations all the time. We
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Speaker 10: can't say anything about it. I'm a called racist if
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Speaker 10: I criticized anything to do with aboriginality. And yet you
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Speaker 10: know to make these comments, and I have been I
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Speaker 10: was born here, for Christ's sake? Where's my connection to
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Speaker 10: the land. Why do I have to acknowledge that they
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Speaker 10: were here and respect elders past, present and emerging. You
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Speaker 10: don't respect people because you've got to tell them. People
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Speaker 10: have to earn respect. I think it's divisive. I'm offended
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Speaker 10: by it. I'm sick of hearing about it. I think
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Speaker 10: it's token istick. And it was actually not a common
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Speaker 10: thing at the time.
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Speaker 11: A lot of the tribes fought with.
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Speaker 10: Each other, they didn't welcome each other to the country.
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Speaker 1: I really think that you and many others in relation
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Speaker 1: to this particular welcome to country ceremony by Brendan Karen
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Speaker 1: have completely misunderstood what he was saying. Now, I've never
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Speaker 1: spoken to him. I don't know the bloke, but what
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Speaker 1: he was saying there, he was hitting back at this
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Speaker 1: device and this were people say I don't need to
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Speaker 1: be welcomed into my own country. He's saying, no, that's
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Speaker 1: not what the ceremony is. The ceremony is not Aborigine.
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Speaker 1: He's saying welcome to white people to Australia. He's saying,
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Speaker 1: the country means the various areas of Australia, and as
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Speaker 1: a welcome to everyone, the brown, white, black brindle, whoever's
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Speaker 1: here at this footy game or this or this meeting,
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Speaker 1: welcome to this particular country. We call this country gadigl
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Speaker 1: land of organa land. He's he's actually explaining that to people,
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Speaker 1: and I think so many people have taken the opposite
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Speaker 1: meaning from it, Chris.
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Speaker 10: When you actually land and they say this is the
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Speaker 10: land of such and such and such a tribe, that's
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Speaker 10: going back what over a couple of hundred and fifty
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Speaker 10: years ago. We've got to move on from there to
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Speaker 10: say it every time the politicians get up and they
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Speaker 10: say that one after another. You know, I hear from
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Speaker 10: people and corporations that they've got to say at on
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Speaker 10: a team's meeting and council meetings everywhere like this. You know,
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Speaker 10: people are just fed up there over it. I talk
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Speaker 10: to people at the street. I actually get him on
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Speaker 10: Facebook page. People are over it. This is my country
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Speaker 10: as well. Make me feel welcome as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm on a Unity ticket with you there,
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Speaker 1: right because I wrote in my article about how I
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Speaker 1: jumped on a bus to the airport in Melbourne and
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Speaker 1: I get to welcome to country. And when you go
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Speaker 1: to a function where there's you have an indigenous person,
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Speaker 1: do or welcome, then every speaker who gets up, ten
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Speaker 1: of them in a row afterwards feel they need to
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Speaker 1: do the same thing. I think there's too much of it.
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Speaker 1: I think sometimes it's right out of context.
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Speaker 2: But in this case, and.
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Speaker 1: I think it's really important because so many people have
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Speaker 1: attacked this. His point is saying it's not about welcoming
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Speaker 1: white people to Australia. It's not welcome to the country
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Speaker 1: of Australia. It's welcome to Gadaghill Country or Garner country
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Speaker 1: or un To country, and it's welcome to everybody there,
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Speaker 1: regardless of the color. So I think it's been misinterpreted.
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Speaker 1: Do you concede when you say people should turn their
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Speaker 1: backs on it? It was that a rhetorical flourish or
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Speaker 1: are you serious or you don't conceide that there are
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Speaker 1: some events where it's a good thing to have.
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Speaker 10: A'tw events. If they want to have it at Aboriginal
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Speaker 10: conventions or that type of thing, fair enough, But I
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Speaker 10: will not have it, and I turn my back on
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Speaker 10: on the floor of Parliament because I just do not
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Speaker 10: accept it, and I am so over it, and I
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Speaker 10: feel like I'm just so offended by this because they're
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Speaker 10: not willing to acknowledge that we are Australians here and
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Speaker 10: those people that migrated here, we are Australians together. Acknowledge us.
20:24
Speaker 10: You know, if we want to do acknowledgment, then acknowledge
20:27
Speaker 10: the men women that sacrifice their lives defending our freedom
20:31
Speaker 10: and of my life. That would go down a lot
20:32
Speaker 10: better of most Australia.
20:34
Speaker 2: Well, you know, we see this different.
20:36
Speaker 1: I agree that it's overdone and sometimes it's too radical.
20:38
Speaker 1: But the instance we heard there from Brendan Kern is like,
20:41
Speaker 1: welcome all of us. We're all here to this particular
20:43
Speaker 1: land and let's have a good game. And I find
20:46
Speaker 1: that really good. And I like to know which are
20:48
Speaker 1: the different language groups, which are the different bits of
20:51
Speaker 1: country around Australia, just in terms of history. Just very
20:55
Speaker 1: briefly on another issue, while I got a chance, negative
20:58
Speaker 1: gearing and real investment to real estate investment taxes, would
21:02
Speaker 1: you be and one nation be brokering any changes there?
21:06
Speaker 4: No?
21:07
Speaker 2: Not all.
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Speaker 10: Most of the investments comes from those mums and dads
21:11
Speaker 10: who are police nurses or those traders that actually go
21:13
Speaker 10: and put investment. If we took them out of the market,
21:16
Speaker 10: we wouldn't have the investment properties there. Also, Fanelo Benisi
21:19
Speaker 10: wants to do something about it. Cut back on immigration
21:22
Speaker 10: and stop pone ownership of our house in Australia. That
21:25
Speaker 10: would address the matter and take or forget jst off
21:29
Speaker 10: the building of houses which about forty forty five percent
21:32
Speaker 10: of new houses is gst spot on.
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Speaker 1: Pauline, you nailed all the key points in about thirty seconds.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us again. I appreciate it, Pauline Hanson.
21:41
Speaker 1: They're the one nation founder and leader joining us live
21:44
Speaker 1: from Queensland. Now, don't go away because after the break
21:46
Speaker 1: I'll catch up with former Ambassador to Israel Dave Shaman
21:49
Speaker 1: our Liberal Center, of course, talk about Israel's attacks on
21:52
Speaker 1: Hezbala entering a new phase. While we expire the terror
21:56
Speaker 1: group's flag on our streets, I want to share with
22:05
Speaker 1: you some really disturbing vision of people in Sydney openly
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Speaker 1: supporting the vile Islamist terrorist group, the banned Islamist terrorist
22:13
Speaker 1: group of Hesbalah on our streets. But first let's look
22:17
Speaker 1: at the latest from the Middle East.
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Speaker 11: Another bloody day in Lebanon. The Israeli air strikes just
22:24
Speaker 11: keep on coming. Two more strikes in Lebanon's capital, the
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Speaker 11: third time in five days that their root's been hit.
22:30
Speaker 11: The Israeli forces said they targeted the head of Hezboala's
22:33
Speaker 11: Missiles and Rockets Unit, Mouhammad Kabisi and other commanders, although
22:37
Speaker 11: this wasn't immediately confirmed by the militants. South of the
22:41
Speaker 11: country got pounded again. They've been NonStop. The constant bombardment
22:48
Speaker 11: means the mass movement of people has been going on
22:51
Speaker 11: for more than thirty hours now. The desperate rush to
22:54
Speaker 11: get out of the line of fire means the humanitarian
22:57
Speaker 11: crisis here is growing and growing.
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Speaker 12: Well.
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Speaker 1: Of course, they're living because Israel warned them to get
23:02
Speaker 1: out before they started firing their rockets at these Hesbalah.
23:08
Speaker 2: Weaponry and missiles.
23:09
Speaker 1: But with all this going on, of course, there have
23:11
Speaker 1: been protests from the Lebanese community in Australia and others,
23:15
Speaker 1: and that included in Sydney last night. People are understandably
23:19
Speaker 1: concerned about innocent Lebanese civilians and many Australians of course.
23:24
Speaker 2: Have relatives there.
23:24
Speaker 1: But the thing is all of this has been brought
23:27
Speaker 1: about by the terrorists of Hezbollah, armed to the hilt
23:31
Speaker 1: and firing missiles nine thousand of them over the past
23:35
Speaker 1: year into Israel, randomly targeting innocent civilians and ensuring that
23:40
Speaker 1: Israel has to respond to defend its citizens. So what's
23:45
Speaker 1: really disturbing about the protest in Sydney last night is
23:48
Speaker 1: that we saw open support for Hezbollah. This terrorist group
23:53
Speaker 1: is banned, it exists to eliminate Israel. It's funded and
23:58
Speaker 1: controlled by Iran, and it has slaughtered innocent Israelis and
24:03
Speaker 1: the battles it's triggered have seen innocent Lebanese people killed two.
24:08
Speaker 1: Yet there on the streets of Sydney last night. The
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Speaker 1: symbol of Hesbellah is emblazed and in red on the
24:15
Speaker 1: back of one hoodie and emblazoned in green on another.
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Speaker 2: The symbol used.
24:21
Speaker 1: On the flag of Hesballah with an ak forty seven
24:24
Speaker 1: raised by a clenched fist and the slogan written above
24:28
Speaker 1: it saying that the Party of Allah shall be triumphant.
24:32
Speaker 1: We've had open support for humas at protests, now Hesbala II.
24:38
Speaker 1: This is deeply worrying, and still from the federal government,
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Speaker 1: we get no leadership on this except pressure placed on Israel,
24:47
Speaker 1: the target of these terrors outfits. We need political leaders
24:51
Speaker 1: to stand up against people supporting terrorist organizations. It happens
24:56
Speaker 1: to be against the law, and in my view it
24:58
Speaker 1: also amounts to hate speech, incitement and vilification. Let's now
25:05
Speaker 1: go to Dave Sharma, who joins me from Sydney.
25:11
Speaker 2: Good to speak to you.
25:11
Speaker 1: Dave, tell me about your thoughts of the Hezbal symbol
25:16
Speaker 1: being openly paraded on the streets of Sydney. Should this
25:19
Speaker 1: be tolerated? Why have we not heard anything from political
25:22
Speaker 1: leaders or even law enforcement authorities about this today?
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Speaker 13: It should be roundly and loudly condemned. Cres Hazbela is
25:33
Speaker 13: a listed terrorist organization. It's been involved in the death
25:37
Speaker 13: of large numbers of civilians, including overseas, responsible for bombings
25:43
Speaker 13: in places like Buenos Aire's terrorist operations in Southeast Asia,
25:47
Speaker 13: bombing of a US marine barracks in nineteen eighty two.
25:49
Speaker 13: This is a bad outfit and a bad organization. And
25:53
Speaker 13: I appreciate that many Lebanese Australians are concerned about what's
25:56
Speaker 13: happening to their home country now and concerned about the
25:59
Speaker 13: welfare their family and friends. But no one should be
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Speaker 13: out there waving the flag or wearing the motives and
26:06
Speaker 13: logos of a listed terrorist organization. As you say in
26:09
Speaker 13: your introduction, I mean support to a listed terrorist organization
26:12
Speaker 13: in Australia is a crime under the Crimes Act and
26:16
Speaker 13: we should be not We should not be tolerating this whatsoever.
26:20
Speaker 1: Well, see this is you should I agree with you.
26:22
Speaker 1: I've got no beef with people wanting to protest there.
26:24
Speaker 7: Now.
26:25
Speaker 1: I might disagree with some of their pressure on Israel
26:27
Speaker 1: and all of that, but understandably they want peace in Lebanon.
26:31
Speaker 2: We all do, and most of.
26:33
Speaker 1: The people at those protests would have been there to
26:35
Speaker 1: support Lebanon and their Lebanese relatives and friends, and they want.
26:39
Speaker 2: This to be settled peacefully.
26:41
Speaker 1: But we've shown those two people at least, and there
26:44
Speaker 1: are others with them.
26:46
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get a ruling.
26:47
Speaker 1: I've tried to find out from the Australian Federal Police
26:50
Speaker 1: whether they confirm this is against the law, whether they're investigating,
26:54
Speaker 1: whether there's any action being taken, but I've heard nothing back.
26:56
Speaker 1: But from your point of view, saying it is against
26:59
Speaker 1: the law to display those symbols, well.
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Speaker 13: To provide support to terrorist organization certainly is so if
27:07
Speaker 13: you donate the money or provide material support. Now you know,
27:11
Speaker 13: I'd have to look more closely at the law, and
27:12
Speaker 13: I'd welcome the advice from law enforcement authorities about whether
27:16
Speaker 13: you know, brandishing and glorifying their motives and logos and
27:19
Speaker 13: symbols is or is not. But at the very least
27:22
Speaker 13: it's reprehensible and quite possibly it's criminal, and I think
27:25
Speaker 13: we need to see some actions taken by our law
27:29
Speaker 13: enforcement authorities to make that point.
27:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is what.
27:34
Speaker 1: Sorry, incidentally.
27:36
Speaker 13: I just go say, I'd incidentally say I mean many
27:39
Speaker 13: Lebanese Australians despise Hezebla for what Hesbela has done to
27:43
Speaker 13: their own country. You know, they brought Lebanon to the
27:45
Speaker 13: brink of state failure. So this is not a uniform
27:49
Speaker 13: view within Australia's Lebanese community. Yes, there are undoubtedly some
27:52
Speaker 13: supporters of Hesbela within Australia's Lebanese community, but I think
27:56
Speaker 13: overwhelmingly a lot of the Lebanese who came to Australia
27:59
Speaker 13: fled the sort of civil strife that has unleashed in
28:02
Speaker 13: that country.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I agree with you.
28:05
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we don't condemn everybody at those protests, but have
28:08
Speaker 1: a listened to this chant that was aired there last.
28:11
Speaker 2: Night that, yeah, now, hands off Lebanon.
28:22
Speaker 1: Fair enough, but I think they're saying all our martyrs
28:24
Speaker 1: we salute, which is pretty worrying as well. So we
28:28
Speaker 1: need to hear more on this. As you say, the
28:30
Speaker 1: law says you can't support a terror group, so it's
28:33
Speaker 1: no matter whether wearing their logo their flag is actually
28:38
Speaker 1: showing support. I say put it to court and let
28:41
Speaker 1: a court decide. Just on this issue, though, Dave, what's
28:44
Speaker 1: your expectation of what we're going to see because we
28:47
Speaker 1: know Israel has claimed that they've got maybe fifty percent
28:50
Speaker 1: or more of the Hesbala rockets destroyed. Now, do we
28:56
Speaker 1: expect that this could be a fairly quick operation or
29:01
Speaker 1: do we fear that it could drag on for many days,
29:03
Speaker 1: weeks and months.
29:06
Speaker 13: Well, I think it depends very much, Chris on how
29:09
Speaker 13: hezeblare and its patron Iran responds. I mean, Israel is
29:12
Speaker 13: trying to send a message here basically that they want
29:14
Speaker 13: to return to the relative quiet prior to the seventh
29:19
Speaker 13: of October that existed on the Israel Lebanese border, which
29:21
Speaker 13: would allow civilians on both sides to return. But you know,
29:24
Speaker 13: Israel has been in an intolerable situation now for eleven months.
29:27
Speaker 13: On the eighth of October last year, one day after
29:30
Speaker 13: Hamasa's terrorist attacks, Hesbela began firing rockets into Israel and
29:35
Speaker 13: it's continued ever since, with the result being that the
29:38
Speaker 13: north of Israel is largely uninhabitable. It's a military zone. Now,
29:42
Speaker 13: Israel has been saying for some time that situation can't continue,
29:46
Speaker 13: and now they're taking steps to demonstrate to Hezebela that
29:49
Speaker 13: unless they restore calm, unless they stopped firing rockets into
29:52
Speaker 13: Israel and incidentally, they just fired a ballistic missile into
29:55
Speaker 13: Tel Aviv a few hours ago, which was lured by Israel.
29:59
Speaker 13: Unless that stops, then this will escalate. And this is
30:03
Speaker 13: why you know, hands off Lebanon. I'm more for an
30:06
Speaker 13: entity's hostilities. But we need to be quite clear here
30:10
Speaker 13: about which is the aggressive party here, which party has
30:12
Speaker 13: started this conflict and whose power it lies within to
30:16
Speaker 13: put an end to this colt.
30:17
Speaker 1: Exactly, And it's not Lebanon, but it certainly is Hesbalah.
30:20
Speaker 2: Undoubtedly.
30:21
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Dave, I appreciate it.
30:24
Speaker 2: Dave Shama, their the Liberal.
30:25
Speaker 1: Senator New South Wales, former Australian Ambassador to Israel. We're
30:28
Speaker 1: going to get to a break on the other side
30:30
Speaker 1: of that. Among the many stories will be following up,
30:32
Speaker 1: but we're going to look at how police are launching
30:34
Speaker 1: a fresh search now for the body of Ballarat mum
30:37
Speaker 1: Samantha Murphy. Plus another regional community fighting a renewables project.
30:42
Speaker 1: This one is going to take out Kowala habitat. There's
30:50
Speaker 1: a fresh search for the body of missing Ballarat mum
30:54
Speaker 1: Samantha Murphy, who disappeared seven months ago.
30:56
Speaker 2: Now while on a morning run.
30:59
Speaker 1: New South Wales Police and Federal Police are assisting the
31:02
Speaker 1: Victoria Police with the latest search. The twenty two year
31:05
Speaker 1: old Patrick Stephenson has been charged with Samantha's murder. He'll
31:09
Speaker 1: return to court in November. Let me bring in doctor's
31:13
Speaker 1: Anthey Mallet, criminologists with the University of Newcastle, good to
31:16
Speaker 1: talk to you against Anthony. This case we've spoken to
31:19
Speaker 1: you about before. It's very disturbing, but let's focus first
31:24
Speaker 1: on this search for a body. The police some months
31:26
Speaker 1: ago found her phone in a dam and we thought
31:30
Speaker 1: then that that would be bring them very close to
31:33
Speaker 1: finding the body. Any supposition as to why they're having
31:36
Speaker 1: so much trouble in this reasonably limited area in finding
31:40
Speaker 1: the body.
31:42
Speaker 14: Good afternoon. Well, as you say, we were hopeful after
31:45
Speaker 14: that phone was recovered and we were told that it
31:47
Speaker 14: was fully functional, which seemed unusual if it had been
31:50
Speaker 14: submerged in water for a number of months. So we're
31:52
Speaker 14: yet to find out how long it had actually been
31:54
Speaker 14: in that dam. But ultimately the police will have been
31:56
Speaker 14: downloading that information and triangulating it with all the other
32:00
Speaker 14: investigive information they've collected over those weeks and now up
32:04
Speaker 14: to seven months, as you say, so, yes, we're hopeful
32:07
Speaker 14: that they are moving forward. The area they're searching is
32:09
Speaker 14: around three kilometers and they did say that they are
32:12
Speaker 14: confident that this will lead to a result I finding
32:15
Speaker 14: some month as remains, but unfortunately the day is finished
32:18
Speaker 14: without that taking place.
32:20
Speaker 1: Now, to be careful about how we address this, because
32:22
Speaker 1: we must, of course always assumed the presumption of the
32:25
Speaker 1: presumption of innocence. A twenty two year old has been charged.
32:30
Speaker 1: He hasn't entered a plea. Now let's assume he's going
32:32
Speaker 1: to plead not guilty.
32:34
Speaker 15: But obviously the police believe that they've put charges because
32:37
Speaker 15: they believe he's the murderer. Then obviously they believe he
32:41
Speaker 15: must know where the body is under our legal system
32:43
Speaker 15: or under the system that operates in Victoria.
32:46
Speaker 1: What pressure do the police have, What rights do they
32:49
Speaker 1: have to try and coax that information from him.
32:53
Speaker 14: Well, they can certainly attempt to interview, but he may
32:56
Speaker 14: be giving no comment interviews if he's claiming to be
32:59
Speaker 14: not guilty, for example, So they really just have to
33:02
Speaker 14: try and build their case from the information they have.
33:04
Speaker 14: Now they have laid charges of murder, even though it's
33:06
Speaker 14: a no body case, which is quite unusual, which leads
33:10
Speaker 14: me to think that they have a lot more information
33:11
Speaker 14: they're not releasing to the public for investigative reasons, and
33:14
Speaker 14: that's perfectly reasonable. So I think we're going to have
33:18
Speaker 14: to wait to watch this case go forward. Perhaps in
33:20
Speaker 14: November when he is in court, we'll learn more. But
33:23
Speaker 14: until then, we're obviously hopeful that they will find something
33:26
Speaker 14: over the next few days within that small are of you,
33:28
Speaker 14: around three kilometers. It's treacherous terrain, but hopefully they will
33:32
Speaker 14: find some evidence, if not some months remained themselves.
33:36
Speaker 1: Indeed, thanks so much, X Anthony, I appreciate it, doctor
33:39
Speaker 1: c Anthony Mallet there, who's the criminologist with the University
33:41
Speaker 1: of Newcastle, and to be a lot of people around
33:44
Speaker 1: the country wanted to see a resolution to that case
33:47
Speaker 1: and justice served. Now there's another battle in regional Australia.
33:52
Speaker 1: I have a labour's obsession with renewables. This time it's
33:54
Speaker 1: near Tamworth in northeast New South Wales, with plans to
33:58
Speaker 1: clear private land to make way for seventy five meter
34:02
Speaker 1: tall transmission pylons connecting renewables projects to the grid.
34:08
Speaker 16: We're absolutely angry. We're frustrated, we're disappointed and we're quite frankly,
34:14
Speaker 16: we're quite heartbroken because this is our home now.
34:19
Speaker 1: Concerned Residents commissioned a report finding the projects and I
34:23
Speaker 1: have significant impact on Kohala habitat. They've taken up the
34:27
Speaker 1: issue with the New South Wales Environment Minister Penny Sharpeye
34:30
Speaker 1: doesn't mind cuddling Koala's, but she's dismissed the concerns. I
34:35
Speaker 1: caught up with local farmer and campaigner Tim White.
34:39
Speaker 7: It is Chris.
34:40
Speaker 17: I mean, it's just more it adds to the argument.
34:43
Speaker 17: It's not a new argument. We've always had Kohala's. We've
34:46
Speaker 17: only just managed to get the reports commissioned. It takes
34:49
Speaker 17: a long time to get these things done and there's
34:52
Speaker 17: not a lot of time more money to do these things.
34:54
Speaker 7: But we've put all banded together.
34:56
Speaker 17: Our group, Valley Alliance, has got two hundred and seventy
34:58
Speaker 17: members and we've all kicked in to get them reports
35:00
Speaker 17: commission and it's come up with what we already knew
35:02
Speaker 17: was there, which you know, we've come up with at
35:04
Speaker 17: least thirty four koalas and there'll be a lot more
35:06
Speaker 17: because we haven't canvas nearly the whole area.
35:09
Speaker 1: Well, this is the astounding thing about the renewables roll
35:12
Speaker 1: out is the environmental impact it has. We know there's
35:14
Speaker 1: a lot of focus on the east coast about dwindling
35:17
Speaker 1: Koala numbers. Yeah, they're suggesting clearing a pathway through here
35:23
Speaker 1: of one hundred and forty meters wide. It seems an
35:26
Speaker 1: extraordinarily wide amount of bush to knock over a for
35:31
Speaker 1: a transmission corridor.
35:34
Speaker 7: It's amazing, mate, I mean it is one hundred and
35:36
Speaker 7: forty meters.
35:36
Speaker 17: They've given us a path right now, one kilometer, which
35:39
Speaker 17: they're going to narrow it down to one hundred and
35:41
Speaker 17: forty meters at some stage, so we'd have no idea
35:44
Speaker 17: really where it's going to go.
35:45
Speaker 7: We've got a one kilometer wide band. That one hundred
35:48
Speaker 7: and forty meters is going to be fully bull dozed.
35:50
Speaker 17: These towers at seventy five meters tall, that's twenty five
35:53
Speaker 17: story building. They're four hundred and fifty meters apart, and
35:58
Speaker 17: there's two of them is their dual, so it's huge.
36:01
Speaker 17: It's a superhigway for electricity.
36:03
Speaker 1: Well, if anybody out there knows anything about Koala conservation,
36:07
Speaker 1: they know the number one problem is habitat. You can't
36:10
Speaker 1: go around knocking over all the koala habitat without impacting
36:13
Speaker 1: the koalas. And that's what amazes me with this is
36:16
Speaker 1: because this is private land, and normally farmers are prevented,
36:20
Speaker 1: understandably through all sorts of rules and legislation, from clearing
36:24
Speaker 1: their land if they want to put in more crops
36:26
Speaker 1: or run more run more livestock. Yet here you've got governments, okaying,
36:31
Speaker 1: a power company coming in and bulldozing native forest rules.
36:37
Speaker 7: For someone rules for rathers Chris, I mean, this is
36:39
Speaker 7: a joke.
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Speaker 17: We have the amount of red tape we have to
36:41
Speaker 17: jump through to knock down anything, not necessarily trees, but
36:46
Speaker 17: even old structures is a joke. Now, these guys can
36:49
Speaker 17: come through without any real consult with no consultation whatsoever,
36:54
Speaker 17: and bulldoze our country. And this is just the you know,
36:59
Speaker 17: it's not even because they can do it, but there
37:03
Speaker 17: is better routes available. I mean, we've suggested that they
37:06
Speaker 17: come and do it elsewhere on public land because it
37:08
Speaker 17: is for the public good, and right now.
37:11
Speaker 7: I ignored us.
37:12
Speaker 2: It's just a shocker.
37:13
Speaker 7: Now.
37:13
Speaker 1: Interestingly, of course, we know there's a bunch of environmental.
37:16
Speaker 2: Groups around the place.
37:18
Speaker 1: Who will arc up anytime there's a suggestion that trees
37:21
Speaker 1: and bush land is going to be ruined for a
37:24
Speaker 1: mine or a freeway or other projects. Are any of
37:27
Speaker 1: those groups helping you out in this case or do
37:30
Speaker 1: they all fall silent when it's connected to renewable energy.
37:35
Speaker 7: It'll be interesting to see, Chris.
37:36
Speaker 17: I mean, we've only just had these reports released, so
37:39
Speaker 17: we'll find out who comes to our aid at this stage.
37:43
Speaker 17: But at this stage it's radio silence. But I would
37:46
Speaker 17: think that the Greens and the Environmental Defender's Office and
37:50
Speaker 17: the like, we should come and fight this battle for.
37:53
Speaker 7: Us with us.
37:54
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And you're in contact with other groups right
37:58
Speaker 1: around the country because in your area, of course, it's
38:01
Speaker 1: a renewable energy zone, but there are battles along the
38:04
Speaker 1: coastlines and inland in most states these days, we.
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Speaker 7: Are talking to groups all over the place, Chris.
38:11
Speaker 17: So, I mean, it's incredible how many people this is
38:14
Speaker 17: upsetting and impacting. It's huge, ten thousand klometers of power
38:18
Speaker 17: lines in New South Wales alone, and the devastation that's
38:22
Speaker 17: doing on the countryside and the rural businesses is off
38:24
Speaker 17: the charts. I mean, there's now a commission or an
38:27
Speaker 17: inquiry into this and hopefully some good comes of it,
38:30
Speaker 17: because really we've been forgotten about out in the bush.
38:34
Speaker 17: And while we do happy to produce most of the
38:37
Speaker 17: food and fiber for this country, it seems at times
38:40
Speaker 17: like this we're also being asked to cop the bill
38:42
Speaker 17: for everyone's rush into renewables.
38:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we haven't forgotten about these issues on this program.
38:48
Speaker 2: We'll keep on them.
38:49
Speaker 1: Tim, So thanks for talking to us and we'll keep
38:50
Speaker 1: in touch.
38:51
Speaker 7: Really appreciated, Chris, thanks for helping mat.
38:55
Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, we'll get wrangling with Liz
38:57
Speaker 1: and Justin. We'll have more news on Australia Day being reinstated,
39:00
Speaker 1: plus the Royals ripoff or an investment for the Brits.
39:12
Speaker 2: Time to wrangle.
39:13
Speaker 1: We've got Justin Smith in the sporting capital of the
39:17
Speaker 1: Universe getting ready for Grand Final weekend.
39:19
Speaker 2: Good to speak to.
39:19
Speaker 1: You again, Justin, and on the desk with me in
39:22
Speaker 1: the sunshine, fun, good food, good times, Capital of the
39:24
Speaker 1: World in Sydney. We got Liz Tora from the late debate.
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Speaker 1: I want to start on this outbreak of common sense
39:31
Speaker 1: Coast to coast Now. We talked on the program last
39:33
Speaker 1: night about how only council in Adelaide liz Is tried
39:38
Speaker 1: shifting all their Australia ceremonies to the twenty fifth. Now
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Speaker 1: they surveyed their locals, they're moving back to January the
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Speaker 1: twenty sixth. The same thing has happened in Rockingham in
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Speaker 1: Western Australia. They surveyed their constituents and guess what Australians
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Speaker 1: like Australia Day on the twenty sixth.
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Speaker 12: What is with this retch respect actually consulting the peace
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Speaker 12: people who elected you to represent them. So look credit
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Speaker 12: where it's due, because it is rather embarrassing for these
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Speaker 12: councils to do a double take. And good on them
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Speaker 12: for setting the records straight. But it just goes to
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Speaker 12: show how many of these councils, because there's over forty
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Speaker 12: in Victoria alone, who have just arbitrarily made this move
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Speaker 12: no consultation whatsoever with their constituents. And I would go
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Speaker 12: so far as to say the vast majority of Australias
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Speaker 12: we know.
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Speaker 2: That from the poll. Yeah, I think you did right.
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Speaker 12: This was something that was pulled very widely, especially when
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Speaker 12: the Voice was in the news every other day. People
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Speaker 12: want their national datary guarante quality.
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Speaker 2: But justin let me just go to Justin on that point.
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Speaker 12: Because he created this in giving the power to.
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Speaker 1: Them, labor changed the rules, and therefore we saw the shift.
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Speaker 1: But justin that this is the point that Liz makes, Right,
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Speaker 1: you've got elected representatives. They jumped initially on these councils
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Speaker 1: to go with what they thought was the zeitguy, so
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Speaker 1: it was noisy in the media or social media or whatever.
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Speaker 1: Then after they do it, they then they talk to
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Speaker 1: their constituents.
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Speaker 2: Oh guess what we were wrong.
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Speaker 1: Constituents actually want the day remaining where it is.
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Speaker 18: I've got look, I've got I've got to tell you,
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Speaker 18: I've got absolutely no respect for these people. They've got
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Speaker 18: no ticker at all. They made the call because they
41:18
Speaker 18: thought it was the right thing to do. They thought
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Speaker 18: that they'd been elected and that they were going to
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Speaker 18: make the call on it.
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Speaker 1: It is the right thing to do.
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Speaker 18: And then they turn her out and they start to go, oh,
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Speaker 18: hang on a second, just look, this embarrasses me. It
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Speaker 18: embarrasses me that we were kind of on the same
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Speaker 18: side at one point about changing the date. I want
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Speaker 18: nothing to do with these people at all. No ticker.
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Speaker 18: If you really feel strongly about it, and you have
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Speaker 18: been elected to.
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Speaker 2: Go with it.
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Speaker 18: Well, while who said everything popular is wrong, just because
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Speaker 18: more people want it doesn't mean it as the right
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Speaker 18: thing to do, but it also.
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Speaker 2: Means if you have to outs every outsource every.
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Speaker 1: Decision to your constituents, you are weak in spineless, you're
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Speaker 1: not a representative at all. You're just a delegate. And
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Speaker 1: it's not The three of us can agree on.
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Speaker 12: That, but it actually takes more ticker to then have
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Speaker 12: the gunction because, like I say, it's embarrassing for these councils.
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Speaker 1: You say we may go.
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Speaker 18: Ticket because now because they're doing you want to, not
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Speaker 18: at all.
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Speaker 12: Not at all, because if they if they survey.
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Speaker 1: That takes to be a good leader in the story
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Speaker 1: to do it. Liz thinks if they're survey, you should
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Speaker 1: be should be an orphan. There majority of.
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Speaker 12: Them wanted the date moved and canceled the celebrations. That's
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Speaker 12: a council doing it.
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Speaker 1: It's not which.
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Speaker 12: Way they're going, it's the fact that, yes, thank you
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Speaker 12: very much, you finally actually ask the people you're elected
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Speaker 12: to represent what they want and you're doing their bidding.
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Speaker 2: That's your job. Let's lift the let's readecision.
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Speaker 1: Lets no politician ever make a decision, just do a
42:55
Speaker 1: census of your it's ridiculous. Now let's go for some
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Speaker 1: really respectful and dignified political leadership, the sort of political
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Speaker 1: leadership that takes it up to another level at the
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Speaker 1: national stage. And that is what we get from our
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Speaker 1: current Prime minister, who of course promised to do nothing
43:10
Speaker 1: when it came to changing negative gearing or capital games
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Speaker 1: games taxes. And here's what he had to say today
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Speaker 1: when it was put to him that perhaps his government
43:19
Speaker 1: is considering changes.
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Speaker 4: I've seen those reports. And what we do is we
43:25
Speaker 4: value the public service. So from time to time, I'm
43:28
Speaker 4: sure the public service are looking at policy ideas.
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Speaker 3: Will you rule out changes to the gearing in property taxes?
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Speaker 7: This too on East.
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Speaker 4: Well, what we're doing is doing the legislation that we
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Speaker 4: had before the Senate. So I talk about what we're doing,
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Speaker 4: not what we're not doing. And what we're doing is
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Speaker 4: trying to get through that legislation.
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Speaker 1: Wow, boy, lots of words, not much meaning. They're justin it.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like they're looking at a broken promise.
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Speaker 18: God, he really struggles, doesn't he. He really struggles in
43:59
Speaker 18: those in those situations. Look, I've got to say, I
44:02
Speaker 18: don't really care what he puts forward as long as
44:05
Speaker 18: when he puts it forward, he gives us all the
44:07
Speaker 18: detail about it, gives us plenty of time to be
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Speaker 18: able to thrash us thrash it out, and then doesn't
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Speaker 18: make any changes until he takes it to the people.
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Speaker 18: I mean, I think you know whatever he's got coming up.
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Speaker 18: But my concern would be if I was in the
44:20
Speaker 18: labor camp, if I was working around Anthony Albanezi, when
44:23
Speaker 18: you do make a decision, is he able to actually
44:25
Speaker 18: go out there and sell the vision of this thing.
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Speaker 18: That would probably be the bigger problem for the party
44:30
Speaker 18: at the moment.
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Speaker 2: But I think you're right.
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Speaker 1: If you're going to make those changes to negative yearing,
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Speaker 1: at least take them to an election so people get
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Speaker 1: the vote on them. I don't think I'll go too well,
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Speaker 1: I'll show another clip of our vote today before I
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Speaker 1: get Lizz's thoughts. This is ourbo on cost of living issues.
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Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that we are going to do,
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Speaker 4: and you will have seen on Monday when it comes
44:51
Speaker 4: to cost of living as well, is take on businesses
44:56
Speaker 4: when they're not doing the right thing. By consumers. You
45:00
Speaker 4: have a packet of oreos lifted up in prices and
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Speaker 4: by triple the amount in which they're then decreased, and
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Speaker 4: a sign put on them saying that it's a special
45:14
Speaker 4: then that is not doing the right thing by consumers.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now this is fascinating because here he is trying to
45:21
Speaker 1: take credit for the a triple C taking on the
45:23
Speaker 1: supermarket giants. As I showed earlier in the program, Johannah's
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Speaker 1: leak has nailed this brilliantly because he's got elbow on
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Speaker 1: the left of screen here in this cartoon saying don't
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Speaker 1: fall for illusory discounts your oreos.
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Speaker 2: At the supermarket giants.
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Speaker 1: But on the right he's saying power bills down, inflation.
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Speaker 2: Down, down down.
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Speaker 1: He wants people to fall for his illusory electricity prices scam. Liz, Yes, this.
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Speaker 12: Is just absolutely brilliant by johannas he always nails it absolutely.
45:54
Speaker 12: Thank you Johannahs. But this is yet another lie, Like
45:57
Speaker 12: you say, complete lie. The people were told one thing,
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Speaker 12: and now we find out, just like what happened with
46:04
Speaker 12: the Stage three tax cuts, they said nothing was going
46:07
Speaker 12: to happen. Then Capital Brief found out that charmers had
46:11
Speaker 12: asked the relevant department, actually, if you can just do
46:13
Speaker 12: me up a list of options.
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Speaker 11: What it might look like.
46:16
Speaker 12: If we did choose to do this, and the whistle
46:19
Speaker 12: was blown on them for the lies that they are.
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Speaker 12: It's just groundhog day with this government.
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Speaker 1: It is indeed now talking about groundhog day. There was
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Speaker 1: one of those at New York at the United Nations
46:29
Speaker 1: headquarters over the past twenty four hours when Joe Biden
46:33
Speaker 1: made his final speech to the General Assembly.
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Speaker 2: Have a look at him praising himself.
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Speaker 19: I think this summer I faced a decision whether the
46:42
Speaker 19: seeker second term as president was a difficult decision. Being
46:47
Speaker 19: president has been the honor of my life. There's so
46:51
Speaker 19: much more I want to get done. As much as
46:53
Speaker 19: I love the job, I love my country.
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Speaker 4: War.
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Speaker 2: Give me a break, justin he did it for the country.
47:01
Speaker 1: He wants to get more done, Like what hasn't what's
47:04
Speaker 1: he done so far apart from what to allow Russia
47:08
Speaker 1: to take Ukraine and everybody to a clear war on Israel.
47:13
Speaker 18: Look, I don't think Joe needed to go around patting
47:15
Speaker 18: himself on the back, but I'm going to say that
47:17
Speaker 18: I really think the more the time goes on. And
47:21
Speaker 18: I'm no big fan of Joe Biden. I think that
47:23
Speaker 18: what he actually did was commendable because I think very
47:26
Speaker 18: very few people I know he was pushed into it.
47:28
Speaker 18: There's no doubt about him looking very few choices. But
47:32
Speaker 18: could you ever imagine the Orange one ever turning around
47:35
Speaker 18: and saying, hey, listen, I'm getting too old for this job.
47:38
Speaker 18: I can't do it anymore. He would cling on the power,
47:41
Speaker 18: and we've already seen him do that in a very
47:43
Speaker 18: atrocious fashion, cling on the power in any way he could,
47:47
Speaker 18: I think Biden, actually, I think this one he does
47:50
Speaker 18: deserve the pat on.
47:51
Speaker 1: The back well, especially when a week later he'd forgot he.
47:54
Speaker 2: Done it and someone had to remind him.
47:56
Speaker 1: Let's go to another bloke who's a lot younger and sharper,
47:59
Speaker 1: but he's getting himself into a lot of strife very
48:02
Speaker 1: quickly as the Prime Minister of the UK. This Labor's
48:05
Speaker 1: kiir Istama, And what about this shocking gaff I call
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Speaker 1: again from immediate ceasfire and Gaza, the return of the Sasages,
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Speaker 1: the hostige, the return of the sausages. I mean, look,
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Speaker 1: let me at least say I'm pleased that he's putting
48:25
Speaker 1: the return of the Hostages front and center. But what
48:28
Speaker 1: a slip of the tongue. What a shocker's his head?
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Speaker 12: He is to be reading from an auderqueue.
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Speaker 1: So the word.
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Speaker 12: Sausages and hostages aren't remotely spelt the same, even if
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Speaker 12: they sound slightly. It goes to show you politicians are human.
48:44
Speaker 12: But also whereabouts in your brain, wouldn't you be thinking
48:48
Speaker 12: nowhere in this speech is there a reference to hossage,
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Speaker 12: especially not now when I'm making such a I'm the
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Speaker 12: Prime Minister of the UK and I'm calling a spire
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Speaker 12: and I'm calling the hostage is a very very strange slipper.
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Speaker 2: It's a bad slip up.
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Speaker 1: He's got some more serious fundamental problems going on there too,
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Speaker 1: that we'll talk about on the program tomorrow night. But
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Speaker 1: that is all the time we've got for wrangling tonight.
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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Justin Smith and Liz Stooral lizill be
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Speaker 1: back at ten o'clock with the late debate. Have we
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Speaker 1: got any time for your feedback?
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Speaker 8: Now?
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Speaker 1: I don't think we do. What I will do want
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Speaker 1: to show you, though, is just some pictures of Ularu
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Speaker 1: getting drenched over the last twenty four hours. I say
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Speaker 1: these are spectacular pictures. It does happen every now and then,
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Speaker 1: but I think it's always wonderful to see when it happens.
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Speaker 2: To thirty odd mills.
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Speaker 1: Of rain hitting the Red Center over the last twenty
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Speaker 1: four hours an inch and a half or so, so
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Speaker 1: pretty specky site there in the Red Center. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: joining me. I'll be back tomorrow night at five up.
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Speaker 1: Next is Kredlin.