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Finding yourself in the Flames · Live Your Legacy

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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Live Your Legacy.
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SPEAKER_01: Where every story holds a turning point.
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SPEAKER_01: And every turning point holds the power of legacy.
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SPEAKER_03: Welcome to Live Your Legacy, the conference conversational podcast where we explore how life's defining moments shape the legacy we leave behind.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm your host, Patricia D.
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SPEAKER_03: Fordenberg, also known as Patty from New York.
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SPEAKER_03: And this show is rooted in one simple truth.
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SPEAKER_03: Grief is not always about death.
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SPEAKER_03: Sometimes it comes through life's changes, losses, detours, and new beginnings.
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SPEAKER_03: And here we speak with entrepreneurs, authors, leaders, and creators who have turned life's defining moments into meaningful work and lasting contributions because legacy is not only what we leave behind, it's what we are shaping right now through vision, impact, and purpose.
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SPEAKER_03: And today we're honoring, we're honored to welcome our special guest, Sean Free, is a burn survivor who has transformed one of his life's most devastating moments into a mission of purpose and service.
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SPEAKER_03: On March 13th, 2018, while working on a propane truck, a liquid propane leak caused an explosion that burned 40 46% of his body.
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SPEAKER_03: Sean's experience, near death experience before waking up in the hospital.
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SPEAKER_03: And that moment became a turning point in his life.
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SPEAKER_03: We are gonna bring you in.
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SPEAKER_03: Sean, welcome and thank you for being here today on Live Your Legacy.
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SPEAKER_03: Tell us where you're coming in from and introduce yourself as well in case I missed something there.
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SPEAKER_03: Go ahead, Sean, over to you.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Patty.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm coming in from Boise, Idaho today.
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SPEAKER_02: Like you said, I'm a burn survivor and now I'm a motorcycle instructor and trainer.
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SPEAKER_02: I've been doing that for about 10 years now, a little over 10 years.
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SPEAKER_02: Been a lot of fun.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: So how's the weather?
2:02
SPEAKER_03: How's the weather?
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SPEAKER_02: Right now it's really nice.
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SPEAKER_02: This last weekend I was over on the coast.
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SPEAKER_02: I had to ride through a whole lot of rainstorms, but okay.
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SPEAKER_02: The one weekend I get to go for a ride, all of a sudden there the whole northwest was underwater.
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SPEAKER_02: It's kind of crazy.
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SPEAKER_03: I think you're gonna take us on a ride because I know a little bit about your story, so I think you're gonna take us on a ride.
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SPEAKER_03: So with that being said, I'm just gonna get right into it, Sean.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna ask you a question that I ask all my guests would you agree or disagree that hindsight is always 2020?
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SPEAKER_02: I've thought about that question, and I think it's too muddy to be 2020.
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SPEAKER_02: Like I always I go back to one of my friends when we were younger, he asked his dad if he'd change anything in his past.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, he goes, I don't know, I'd hate to screw something up.
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SPEAKER_02: Where I'm at is where I'm at, and it's maybe who I am.
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SPEAKER_02: So I think if you go back and change it, I don't know what would the whole butterfly affect now.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: I that that's great.
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SPEAKER_03: That's great.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm always so fascinated at every all everybody's answers when again never heard it said that way.
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SPEAKER_03: So that was really great.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: Can you take us back for a moment and share with us like a pivotal moment that changed the direction of your life or work or both?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've had a couple of them, but there's one one doozy there.
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SPEAKER_02: Mark back March 13th, 2018.
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SPEAKER_02: I was working on that propane truck when I was in the middle of that explosion.
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SPEAKER_02: I was uh I was a big game changer for it's a hard reset for life, way I like to put it.
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SPEAKER_03: Triggers, triggers talking about it.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you for being vulnerable.
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SPEAKER_03: You're good.
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SPEAKER_03: Now now you become an advocate from what I've seen and read.
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SPEAKER_03: So that's really awesome.
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SPEAKER_03: What challenge would you say was a blessing in disguise?
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SPEAKER_02: The whole experience.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh like I tell people all the time, I wouldn't wish what happened to me to on anybody.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, it wasn't a good time.
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SPEAKER_02: It definitely heck of a rodeo, but it's it really helped me become who I am today.
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SPEAKER_02: It just it I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Before I was working a job and I was like, oh, I wish I could got a chance to start over, and I guess be careful what you wish for.
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SPEAKER_02: Sometimes the universe will give it to you.
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SPEAKER_03: That's right.
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SPEAKER_03: We want to lean in a little bit.
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SPEAKER_03: Is there a particular moment that felt like this besides the main event, right?
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SPEAKER_03: As you are recovering, could you recall something that now in in hindsight you're like, wow, that was also a blessing.
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SPEAKER_03: That was also a blessing.
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SPEAKER_02: So when I the second time I woke up in the hospital, they I just woke up and the f when I first woke up from my near-death experience.
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SPEAKER_02: I came out of that pretty, I don't know, wound up.
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SPEAKER_02: I got upset.
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SPEAKER_02: So they I just heard one of the nurses after I flipped a couple people off go, Oh, we're gonna we're gonna talk to you tomorrow.
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SPEAKER_02: And they just put something in my IV tube and I went back to sleep for a day.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh boy, which you were probably happy at the moment to do.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, it was just oh yeah, I'll go back real quick.
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SPEAKER_02: So when I got blown up in Montana, went through a whole deal, I dug myself out, put myself out in a snowbank, and then walked to the side of the road.
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SPEAKER_02: I was talking to the sheriff, walked an ambulance, and they took me to the hospital.
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SPEAKER_02: And the whole time I stopped joking about everything because the second I was afraid the second I took it serious, it was gonna be real serious.
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SPEAKER_02: And then when I got in Montana, they stayed to me, and the doctor told me, Hey, we're gonna put you under, you're gonna wake up in Seattle.
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SPEAKER_02: And at that point I didn't really understand how bad I was burnt.
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SPEAKER_02: Then I woke up in Seattle, but I was in a suit at like a dining hall, and I couldn't figure out.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, Oh, must not have been that bad, and I've been hit in the head enough times I've I got lapsed.
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SPEAKER_02: I lose time occasionally.
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SPEAKER_02: So it wasn't anything new to me.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh I'll remember it eventually, and then all of a sudden I realized I wasn't really here anymore.
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SPEAKER_02: And that's why I started getting upset.
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SPEAKER_02: Then I woke up in the hospital and realized I was pretty busted up.
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SPEAKER_02: All I could see was the gauze around my eyes, and my nose was just charcoal black.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
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SPEAKER_02: Everything was just so swollen.
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SPEAKER_02: Couldn't see more about six, seven feet because my eyes are themselves have been burnt.
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SPEAKER_02: So how about eating everything after that?
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SPEAKER_02: How about eating completely intubated?
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SPEAKER_02: I in the surgery before that, I had double pneumonia in my lungs from all the damage.
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SPEAKER_02: So I they I coded, they put tubes in me, drained all my lungs.
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SPEAKER_02: The machine was breathing for me, and then when I woke up with all that and all the beeps and the buzzes, it was pretty overwhelming.
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SPEAKER_03: A walking miracle.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, it did not feel miracle at the time, it felt pretty real and raw everywhere because my hands weren't burnt, so when I lifted my arms up, all I could see is my non-burnt hands, but from wrists down was all bandages.
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SPEAKER_02: Like my Apple Watch had melted to my wrist.
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SPEAKER_02: Just oh you don't think about that stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: No, burn survivors.
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SPEAKER_02: We think about you're burned is from it from the injuries, but actually, it's all my clothes just melted to my skin, and then all so is Sean.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, you don't think of those things.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I probably would have worn different clothes.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, I'm glad you can laugh about it, right?
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SPEAKER_03: That's why you can't do it.
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SPEAKER_03: This is the grace, this is the grace.
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SPEAKER_03: This is the grace, though.
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SPEAKER_03: Your testimony, you giving hope to somebody that might be in the recovery stage right now as we speak.
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SPEAKER_03: We got some love here.
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SPEAKER_03: We got Bella Linda Rigby.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much, Bella.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you for tuning in.
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SPEAKER_03: And she's saying, Wow, I'm saying wow.
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SPEAKER_03: And I I read the story, I know a little bit about it, but then hearing you talk about it makes it so real, right?
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SPEAKER_03: And it's a miracle, it's just a miracle.
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SPEAKER_03: So, who has been the most memorable mentor in your life and why during this time?
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SPEAKER_02: It's been a lot.
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SPEAKER_03: Could be more than one, go for it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, while I was in the hospital, there's two things I listen to all the time.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you know who Jocko Willink is, he's a motivational speaker.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I don't know if you're not gonna be a good one.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he has a whole bunch of sound, different audiobooks, and one of his he put on iTunes, so he uses the hit list for the different little disciplines I need.
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SPEAKER_02: One of his is good, and it talks about it doesn't matter what life throws at you, you just gotta find the good that can come out of it.
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SPEAKER_02: Like every morning, that was just I'd wake up around five, yeah, and I just put it when my ears healed enough and I could put headphones in, then I just I'd listen to that every morning.
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SPEAKER_02: Wow, these were all this was all burnt and wow, but you might such a miracle actually grew back better.
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SPEAKER_02: It's crazy.
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SPEAKER_03: Wow, it's such a miracle.
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SPEAKER_03: We got some more viewers, Nancy.
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SPEAKER_03: Hello, I'm friends with Nancy.
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SPEAKER_03: Also, Nancy Shapiro, thank you for tuning in.
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SPEAKER_03: I I'm amazed.
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SPEAKER_03: I know we're like all what?
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SPEAKER_03: And you just seem like nothing like that could have ever happened to you.
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SPEAKER_03: Looking at you, hearing you.
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SPEAKER_03: Did you have a problem with speech?
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SPEAKER_03: There's just so many questions I want to ask about that.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't want to traumatize you though, because sometimes you're good.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay, thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you for that.
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SPEAKER_03: Did you have to train speech?
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SPEAKER_03: Did you have to learn how to talk again?
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SPEAKER_03: Or that wasn't tampered with?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, no, there was a lot I had to so I got burnt March 13th.
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SPEAKER_02: Easter is when I finally got to where I got I got to learn how to walk again.
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SPEAKER_02: The blast messed up my ear.
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SPEAKER_02: This ear's kind of decoration now.
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SPEAKER_02: It holds a mask or sunglasses, but that really messed my equilibrium up.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I was bedridden for a month and I'd put on 60-something pounds of water weight.
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SPEAKER_02: Just from that's what the body does from all the trauma.
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SPEAKER_02: So on Easter, I had to learn how to walk and rebalance myself.
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SPEAKER_03: And that every part of this is just yeah, things we don't think of that your ear, it's already that alone is already traumatic, losing hearing, right?
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SPEAKER_03: When you had it, it wasn't like you were born with no hearing, and then it throwing off your equilibrium, things we don't think of, like the clothes burning on you.
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SPEAKER_03: Sean, you're I was gonna say you're blowing me away, but I know now we could, you know, part of the time, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I'm almost 50 and I have no wrinkles.
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SPEAKER_02: It's it's a little aggressive, but it's pretty nice.
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SPEAKER_03: You got you you got a natural facelift.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm glad that I'm glad that we could find humor in the trauma.
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SPEAKER_03: I think it's healing to be able to we listen, you're speaking through testimony.
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SPEAKER_03: It's not funny for anybody out there that's experiencing the recovery, but this right now is uh an inspiration that you will be there, you will be in recovery, just stick to it.
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SPEAKER_03: Could you say that name again for the inspirational speaker, Jack?
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SPEAKER_03: Did you say what was his name?
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SPEAKER_02: Jocko.
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SPEAKER_03: Jocko.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, now I bel now.
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SPEAKER_03: I believe it's familiar, but I never actually went out of my way to listen.
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SPEAKER_03: And now I'm going to thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: It's very inspiring.
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SPEAKER_03: He obviously did a lot for you, and I didn't mean to uh cut you off on that.
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SPEAKER_03: Was there anybody else you wanted to mention?
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SPEAKER_03: Because I I I you you might have had somebody else that you wanted to talk about also in mentorship.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, another one of the guys I listened to is he's a little goofy now, but it was Joe Rogan.
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SPEAKER_02: He has this sound deal of may be the hero of your own story.
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SPEAKER_02: So, like I while I was in a hospital, I'd use good to get myself just look into what positive could come out of that day.
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SPEAKER_02: In those early days, it was just like I'm hoping to get three laps around the swing of the hospital.
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SPEAKER_02: That was like that was a big that was my goal for the day, and just pushing myself through that.
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SPEAKER_02: And then both of those just helped me get through wound care in the morning because like wound care is where they dress all your wounds.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was I was a mummy from top to from head to toe.
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SPEAKER_02: My hands and feet were the only thing that really didn't get burnt, so it's like they take all my band-aids off, scrub me down with some special self to kill all the bacteria, and then rewrap me up.
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SPEAKER_02: And that was about a three-hour process when it first started.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, and then the amount of medications, and they'd always give me one fentanyl pop to of yeah, then right before surgery, they'd give me another one.
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SPEAKER_02: And every time I'd just tell myself, You're not gonna be a walrus today.
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SPEAKER_03: And then eventually I'd have a stick in each corner of my mouth going up because it just you're making me laugh when meanwhile, it's so serious, and we're here laughing.
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SPEAKER_03: But that's the grace, right?
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SPEAKER_03: That's the grace right there.
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SPEAKER_03: But wow, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I tell people this is gonna suck.
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SPEAKER_02: You just you might as well enjoy it.
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SPEAKER_02: It's if you go in and try to lie to yourself, that's all right, this won't be bad, but no, it just it's gonna suck.
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SPEAKER_02: You might as well just laugh.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it makes it any better, but at least you're laughing through it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know if mentally it helps.
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SPEAKER_03: Laughing, I've read about laughing.
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SPEAKER_03: There's endorphins there, so absolutely, absolutely, and I'm glad that you got your laugh back.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm glad that you got your laugh back.
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SPEAKER_03: And I'm glad that you had yeah, I'm glad you had the mindset drawing too.
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SPEAKER_03: That's really awesome.
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SPEAKER_03: So, thank you for that.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you for actually one of the things that's the whole deal of answering that question.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, when I woke up, I remember this guy, Maur, that I grew up with, and he was a burn survivor from a race car accident.
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SPEAKER_02: And I just remember that was back in the 80s, and it didn't seem to hold him back at all.
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SPEAKER_02: He still went back racing cars, doing all that stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: So I was like, it I just right then told myself, I don't care what the outcome of this is, I'm not letting it hold me back.
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SPEAKER_02: It just anything I want to do, other stuff can hold me back, but not being a burn survivor.
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SPEAKER_02: Although just something to put instilled in my mind right pretty early.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm so happy you shared that because I feel like that about you right now.
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SPEAKER_03: You could be that guy right now, and that's really beautiful.
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SPEAKER_03: That one moment in time that this guy said it didn't stop me, got through it, and now you're demonstrating that, you're modeling that.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, that's really awesome.
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SPEAKER_03: Any any anyone else?
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SPEAKER_03: Anyone else you want to reflect on?
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SPEAKER_03: I'm sure there's many, but yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: There's all this there's inspiration everywhere if you're looking.
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SPEAKER_02: Everybody has a story.
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SPEAKER_02: It's I tell my burn survivor story, and then I hear other people's story.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh, never mind.
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SPEAKER_02: Um it's um there's just a lot of good stories out there.
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SPEAKER_02: You can there's all sorts of places to find inspiration.
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SPEAKER_03: Isn't that funny?
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SPEAKER_03: That's so true.
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SPEAKER_03: And if you're looking for it, you will find it.
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SPEAKER_03: What was there a revelation or personal motto or lesson that helped you guide your journey?
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SPEAKER_03: Was there a lesson learned here?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, there's oh yeah, I should write a book on the lessons I've learned in this whole start.
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SPEAKER_03: Today will be chapter one here, here in Live Your Legacy.
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SPEAKER_03: Come on, let's hear it.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like we all hit different points in our own lives, let alone our own recoveries.
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SPEAKER_02: There's just it's an up and down, and oh, I become pretty hippy-diffy these days.
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SPEAKER_02: But I feel if you need something, you pay attention, it shows up.
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SPEAKER_02: The best way to get it to show up is to help somebody else through it.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, and I don't understand why the universe works that way, but the more you go to help somebody else with their things, the more you just your stuff works itself out.
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SPEAKER_02: It's kind of crazy.
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SPEAKER_03: It's that was beautifully said.
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SPEAKER_03: We got some more love here by Diosa.
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SPEAKER_03: Hey Diosa, how are you?
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SPEAKER_03: And another friendly uh face so inspirational.
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SPEAKER_03: Bless him, he says.
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SPEAKER_03: So you're getting blessed here.
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SPEAKER_03: So many, yeah, you're blessing so many souls.
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SPEAKER_03: So thank you, Sean.
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SPEAKER_03: So uh, what would you say to your younger self today?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, what would you say to your younger self?
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SPEAKER_02: Younger self was pretty feral.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know what I could say to younger me that might actually help.
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SPEAKER_02: Just enjoy it.
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SPEAKER_02: Youth is wasted on the young, it seems we're so worried about getting everything done, and you get older, you're like, Man, none of it mattered.
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SPEAKER_02: Just yeah, you rush through it and have fun, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Trying to get through it, you missed it.
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SPEAKER_02: It's kind of crazy.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm still giggling about the way you started that, though.
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SPEAKER_03: Young self-sparel.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh man, you're like a stand-up comedian today.
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SPEAKER_03: What's going on?
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SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh, that was great.
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SPEAKER_03: Never heard of that before either.
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SPEAKER_03: That was a good one.
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SPEAKER_03: You got me giggling and my cheeks hurt.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was really good.
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SPEAKER_03: So, with that being said, what would you say to your okay?
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SPEAKER_03: What wisdom?
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SPEAKER_03: What advice would you give your future self to hold on to?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh shit, is keep going.
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SPEAKER_03: That's a thing.
17:28
SPEAKER_03: That's a thing, right?
17:30
SPEAKER_03: There's a there's so many quotes just on that, but that's great.
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SPEAKER_03: That's great advice.
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SPEAKER_03: What does legacy mean to you personally, Sean?
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SPEAKER_02: I just I thought about this lot since the accident puts everything in perspective.
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SPEAKER_02: But I just hope I want my legacy to be I want to leave the world somehow nicer than when I got here.
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SPEAKER_02: Just make some sort of improvement.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know what it'll be, but just something.
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SPEAKER_03: That's so nice, or leave it better than when it came in.
17:59
SPEAKER_03: That's so beautiful.
18:00
SPEAKER_03: You got some more love there.
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SPEAKER_03: You got some fans with your comedy act here.
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SPEAKER_03: We're all laughing.
18:06
SPEAKER_03: We're all laughing on that one.
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SPEAKER_03: That was really great.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
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SPEAKER_03: What do you hope people remember most about the way you lived, worked, and served?
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SPEAKER_02: I just I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Lived big and loved big.
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SPEAKER_02: That's kind of I like it.
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SPEAKER_02: I tell a lot more people I love them now.
18:26
SPEAKER_02: So you're a teddy bear.
18:27
SPEAKER_03: So you're a teddy bear.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay, show them the teddy bear.
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SPEAKER_02: Spent years doing MMA and all that stuff, but yeah, I'm big teddy bear.
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SPEAKER_02: It's terrible.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just don't get him when he's hungry.
18:40
SPEAKER_03: No, I'm trying to be a comedian too.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh gosh, it's rubbing off.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay, I you might have answered this before, but I'm gonna ask you this.
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SPEAKER_03: If you could do it all over again, would you change anything, or did every part of your journey have a purpose?
19:00
SPEAKER_02: I would have bought Bitcoin a long lot earlier, other than that.
19:05
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, you get the award for that answer up to to date.
19:09
SPEAKER_03: I don't know who who else is coming in after you, but that one was probably my favorite answer, up to date.
19:17
SPEAKER_03: Great answer.
19:18
SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
19:20
SPEAKER_03: And the comedy keeps coming.
19:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's right.
19:23
SPEAKER_03: Anything else?
19:25
SPEAKER_02: No, it's just yeah, it's just crazy.
19:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't I I wouldn't want to do it again.
19:32
SPEAKER_03: You wouldn't want to do it again, but you wouldn't change it.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
19:36
SPEAKER_02: It's I really like where I'm at, and I know I know I wouldn't be here without that pressure.
19:40
SPEAKER_02: It's just that's how you grow.
19:42
SPEAKER_02: It's when everything's nice and cozy, people don't go out and buy self-help books.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: It's it's when you're trying to change, you're trying to make improvements.
19:51
SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
19:52
SPEAKER_02: And I sometimes you kind of suck.
19:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and and what you're saying to me feels like you're you're resting in appreciation, you know.
20:02
SPEAKER_03: You that that what you just said before, you know, like you knew you wouldn't be here.
20:06
SPEAKER_03: So that to me is like resting right in appreciation, you know, for what you've learned from it, right?
20:12
SPEAKER_03: So that's really, really beautiful.
20:15
SPEAKER_03: So this is a signature question.
20:19
SPEAKER_03: Is there something about your journey that most people would be surprised to learn?
20:26
SPEAKER_02: It's been struggle, Bill a lot of the time.
20:28
SPEAKER_02: Um when you look on social and when I'm on these podcasts, we always we always talk about the high points, you know.
20:35
SPEAKER_02: We don't know about the days where we're just sitting looking at a weight, wanting to move it, but you gotta bully yourself to do it.
20:43
SPEAKER_02: So it's just it's hard, it's personal growth's not easy, it it requires work.
20:50
SPEAKER_03: Yep, yep, it does.
20:53
SPEAKER_03: I I might I might I might add to that, you know, there's the easy button, right?
20:58
SPEAKER_03: The easy button, but it's easy not to do anything, right?
21:01
SPEAKER_03: But that's we know it's the short game, right?
21:03
SPEAKER_03: It's quick to go nowhere real fast.
21:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and the work part, you know, and you just reminded me of something that maybe somebody needs to hear this now, you know.
21:13
SPEAKER_03: Check on your strong friends, like you said, you we come on here, I come on here, everything seems so great and wonderful, right?
21:19
SPEAKER_03: And it is for the moment, for the moment, is that fair to say?
21:23
SPEAKER_03: But check on your strong friends, check on your strong friends.
21:26
SPEAKER_03: So, where can we find you, Sean?
21:29
SPEAKER_03: Tell us a little bit more about what you're doing today.
21:32
SPEAKER_03: What's what are your hobbies?
21:33
SPEAKER_03: What do you like to talk about?
21:35
SPEAKER_03: Tell us all about you, Sean.
21:38
SPEAKER_03: Over to you.
21:39
SPEAKER_02: Oh my, my hobbies are pretty long.
21:42
SPEAKER_02: Tell us what it goes back to the part of my healing process.
21:46
SPEAKER_02: I really I was into knife making before my accident.
21:49
SPEAKER_02: And then when I while I was in the hospital, I was just gonna start making knives for living full time.
21:55
SPEAKER_02: That's what I want to do.
21:56
SPEAKER_02: So I really got into knife making afterwards, and I found That was such a good not remedy, but it was a good way to work through my PTSD.
22:09
SPEAKER_02: There's just a lot.
22:11
SPEAKER_02: There's with the flames and all that.
22:12
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of memory, it just roots it gets stuck in.
22:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
22:17
SPEAKER_02: I don't do that.
22:18
SPEAKER_03: That's why I was like, I was like with talking about it.
22:20
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, I hope I'm not overstepping, but thank you.
22:24
SPEAKER_03: But being hands on, but being hands-on, that's a different story.
22:28
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
22:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:29
SPEAKER_03: So again, talk talk to us.
22:30
SPEAKER_03: So what happened with that?
22:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, working on those knives, I found out if you get in one of those loops, you just can't.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: It's just loop of doom, is what I call them.
22:40
SPEAKER_02: Just cycling through stuff.
22:42
SPEAKER_02: But if you have something you're working on to improve it, as you're as I'm sitting there standing those knives, I'm worried about scratches, the micro scratches, or I'm gonna change a knife.
22:51
SPEAKER_02: So it gets my brain out of that loop.
22:53
SPEAKER_02: Then at the end, I've actually created a tool.
22:56
SPEAKER_02: I make a lot of hunting knives, kitchen knives, just utility knives for camping and stuff.
23:02
SPEAKER_02: So it's nice when you make a tool like that and you're using it, that's really it's like a good morale booster.
23:10
SPEAKER_02: That's that was a big part of my healing.
23:12
SPEAKER_02: That was a hobby of mine.
23:13
SPEAKER_02: Then I got to where my knives were solved for I know six, seven hundred dollars a knife.
23:19
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
23:19
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, yeah, then I just wow I started buying some really unique material.
23:25
SPEAKER_02: So I'm I'm making knives out of wagons from the 1800s from old logging equipment from early 1900s, just recycling a lot of stuff that's just gonna scrap.
23:37
SPEAKER_03: Where did you learn how to do this?
23:39
SPEAKER_03: I just self-taught, yeah.
23:42
SPEAKER_02: YouTube and Google and books.
23:46
SPEAKER_02: I buy a lot of books.
23:47
SPEAKER_02: So I have like when I got into knife making, I probably I bought I don't know how many different books I got, but they all have different techniques.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: And I have one book just on Japanese cooking knives because they get the Japanese get so focused on purpose-built knives.
24:03
SPEAKER_02: I think anytime learning those extremes helps with everything.
24:07
SPEAKER_03: Wow, we got some other people here chiming in, knowing how you feel with the fire.
24:12
SPEAKER_03: We got Dr.
24:12
SPEAKER_03: Mike Rodriguez here.
24:14
SPEAKER_03: For him, it's the water.
24:15
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, people relate to that.
24:17
SPEAKER_03: That's a real thing.
24:19
SPEAKER_03: It's we talk about it, but it actually has a physical effect, it's not just mental, it it the mental physical, right?
24:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so when I came home from the hospital because I wanted to make knives, and fire is a big part of that.
24:32
SPEAKER_02: My wife came home one day to catch me in the front yard building a propane burner.
24:37
SPEAKER_02: So I was building my own propane forge.
24:39
SPEAKER_02: I still all bandage.
24:41
SPEAKER_02: She's like, Wait, let's see, let's see it, let's see it for a minute.
24:45
SPEAKER_03: Can we see it?
24:46
SPEAKER_03: Do you have it?
24:47
SPEAKER_03: I feel like you have it right there.
24:48
SPEAKER_03: Oh, come on.
24:49
SPEAKER_02: No, there's no video documentation of that.
24:51
SPEAKER_03: No, but oh my gosh.
24:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she's like, really?
24:54
SPEAKER_02: It's like, ah, it it spooks me, it fire spooks me really bad, but I'm an outdoors guy, so I just you're gonna face it.
25:01
SPEAKER_02: Head on.
25:02
SPEAKER_02: It is constant.
25:03
SPEAKER_02: I still get pretty jumpy over the whoosh sound, like when you lie to barbecue, that whoof that one still gets me.
25:10
SPEAKER_02: Ooh, or just loud hissing air.
25:12
SPEAKER_02: Those are the two sounds that still get me.
25:14
SPEAKER_02: But as long as I'm as long as I know they're coming, I can prepare.
25:19
SPEAKER_02: Understanding weird the whole PTSD is weird because some years fireworks would mess with me, but then the next some years they wouldn't.
25:27
SPEAKER_02: So it's just kind of like a lot of that has to do with mind where your mind's at that time.
25:31
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, how alert you are.
25:33
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, absolutely.
25:34
SPEAKER_03: I want to let people know where you could follow.
25:37
SPEAKER_03: Sean is this is one of his favorite places on, but you could also go to yeah, we'll leave that up for a minute.
25:43
SPEAKER_03: I want to just share what you might see on there.
25:46
SPEAKER_02: And uh yeah, my poem, eight years I wrote.
25:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I did that for men's mental health.
25:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh, there's no way of reading that song.
25:53
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'll read it.
25:54
SPEAKER_03: I'll I'll read it.
25:55
SPEAKER_03: Let me put my granny glasses on though for this one.
25:57
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
25:59
SPEAKER_03: It's been eight years, eight years I have fought this internal battle, eight years I have been holding them at bay, eight years that have been hellbent on my own destruction, eight years I have argued with me about me until I hated me.
26:16
SPEAKER_03: Oh boy, it's deep.
26:18
SPEAKER_03: Eight years, yeah.
26:19
SPEAKER_03: I couldn't be me, eight years I had to hide me, eight years I hated me, eight years I won, I lost the battles, eight years I used my strength to overcome my weakness, eight years I pushed forward, eight years I learned acceptance, eight years I learned discipline, eight years taught me how to love me, eight years taught me how to accept me.
26:46
SPEAKER_03: Eight years is what it took to find myself in the flames.
26:50
SPEAKER_03: Oh no, I'm gonna cry.
26:52
SPEAKER_02: Oh man, it's a lot weirder to hear somebody read it.
26:56
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna make me cry, Patty.
26:57
SPEAKER_02: That's not nice.
27:01
SPEAKER_03: I just gotta take a moment because eight years is a long time.
27:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a long time, but it seems like a different life, but yesterday at the same time it's weird.
27:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that picture of me is on the salt flats, me and some of my fellow instructors after the race.
27:22
SPEAKER_02: We went and raced on the track, and then on the way back, we kicked our bikes out at the salt flats and ran across them at 100 something miles an hour.
27:29
SPEAKER_02: It's fun.
27:30
SPEAKER_03: Wait a minute.
27:31
SPEAKER_03: Wait one minute.
27:33
SPEAKER_03: I thought that was like an AI picture.
27:38
SPEAKER_03: No, I no, that's actually a that's a really good picture.
27:44
SPEAKER_03: That's a really good picture.
27:45
SPEAKER_03: Anybody listening on audio, you're missing out.
27:48
SPEAKER_03: Go to the YouTube video and see this because or follow just follow Sean.
27:52
SPEAKER_03: That's even easier.
27:53
SPEAKER_03: Follow Sean at Man of Fire Moto.
27:58
SPEAKER_03: M-A-N-O-F-I-R-E-M-O-T-O.
28:02
SPEAKER_03: Follow Sean.
28:03
SPEAKER_03: Wait a minute.
28:04
SPEAKER_03: How am I not following you?
28:05
SPEAKER_03: I thought I was following you in all the socials.
28:07
SPEAKER_03: I'm following you on LinkedIn and okay, there we go.
28:09
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, that was a good catch here live on Liv Your Legacy.
28:13
SPEAKER_03: Sean, that's very vulnerable of you to put this though, but that's a really awesome.
28:18
SPEAKER_03: I don't know what I'm fascinated more about the whole motorcycle looking so sharp or that sun either rising or setting in the backdrop with that sky.
28:27
SPEAKER_03: It's just phenomenal.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: The whole so the original photo wasn't of the sunset.
28:32
SPEAKER_02: I did use AI for that part.
28:34
SPEAKER_03: Okay, that's but nonetheless, the motorcycle is spot on sharp.
28:39
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I'm going, I'm I'm doing a little bit.
28:43
SPEAKER_02: It was just the coloring that got changed through AI.
28:45
SPEAKER_02: The photo itself is real, though.
28:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's fun.
28:48
SPEAKER_02: That was a fun day.
28:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's beautiful.
28:51
SPEAKER_03: That's beautiful.
28:52
SPEAKER_03: And what redemption that photo is, right?
28:55
SPEAKER_03: I love that you used that photo for this poem because it's such redemption.
29:00
SPEAKER_03: This is a redemption song, right there.
29:02
SPEAKER_03: Dang, I'm gonna I'm gonna stop because I'm just going crazy here.
29:05
SPEAKER_03: I'm just really loving it, absolutely loving it.
29:08
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, and then here's all his fun stuff.
29:10
SPEAKER_03: Look at that big smile.
29:11
SPEAKER_03: We got the QR code.
29:12
SPEAKER_03: You want some knives?
29:14
SPEAKER_03: This is where you go.
29:14
SPEAKER_03: Are you still are you selling the knives?
29:16
SPEAKER_03: Are they able to buy knives if they follow you?
29:18
SPEAKER_02: Or no, now I just because I'm really focusing on being a public speaker.
29:23
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
29:24
SPEAKER_03: I'm so happy to do that.
29:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the knives I do now.
29:28
SPEAKER_02: I make them and then I'll give them the different programs, raffle for to raise money and all that.
29:33
SPEAKER_02: I raised three thousand dollars for one of my friends with cancer and three thousand a little over three thousand for another with a brain tumor.
29:41
SPEAKER_03: Wow, nice.
29:42
SPEAKER_03: Well, paying it forward, like you said, you just keep paying it forward.
29:46
SPEAKER_03: Oh, wow.
29:46
SPEAKER_03: Well, you're living your legacy.
29:48
SPEAKER_03: You are living your legacy, and that's just beautiful.
29:51
SPEAKER_03: And I thank you so much for coming on here.
29:54
SPEAKER_03: Anything else you want to mention before we wrap it up?
29:59
SPEAKER_02: All my fellow motorcycle riders out there, get trained, have some fun.
30:03
SPEAKER_02: There's the more training you get, the more miles you get to ride for longer.
30:07
SPEAKER_02: That's what our goals are.
30:10
SPEAKER_03: That's a good message, too.
30:11
SPEAKER_03: And also, safety first, right?
30:13
SPEAKER_03: Go have fun, but first, it's so important.
30:16
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, be smart while you do dangerous things.
30:20
SPEAKER_03: And you of all people, pay attention when he says this.
30:23
SPEAKER_03: Pay attention when he says this, even though that was an accident.
30:26
SPEAKER_03: That you're that that was a different story, but I'm sure you were heightened to safety after that.
30:32
SPEAKER_03: Would that be fair to say?
30:33
SPEAKER_02: It's we go through life always thinking it's not gonna happen to me, and I can't say that anymore.
30:39
SPEAKER_02: So it's kind of that's one of those deals of pay a little more attention.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to do that twice.
30:45
SPEAKER_03: You got humbled, right?
30:46
SPEAKER_02: I figured found out I'm not Superman, I can be broken.
30:50
SPEAKER_03: So it's yeah, thank you for your service.
30:53
SPEAKER_03: Thank you for your service.
30:54
SPEAKER_03: And uh, my my Dr.
30:55
SPEAKER_03: Mike Rodriguez is saying, Thank you for your service too.
30:58
SPEAKER_03: I beat him to it because I saw it and I'm like, I'm gonna say it first.
31:01
SPEAKER_03: But thank you for your service from all of us.
31:03
SPEAKER_03: I really appreciate it.
31:04
SPEAKER_03: I'm just gonna ask you one more time.
31:05
SPEAKER_03: Can you give us a closing remark?
31:08
SPEAKER_02: This uh, yeah, from Marcus Aurelius, Amor Fati, and enjoy your fate or love your fate.
31:16
SPEAKER_02: It's love your fate and make your fate.
31:19
SPEAKER_02: You gotta do play the cards you're dealt, another way to put it.
31:23
SPEAKER_03: Beautiful.
31:24
SPEAKER_03: Okay, here you are on Live Your Legacy.
31:26
SPEAKER_03: And I meant to also just give a little shout out again.
31:30
SPEAKER_03: Go to IG on Fire Moto and follow Sean.
31:34
SPEAKER_03: Give some love, give some support, going into public speaking.
31:37
SPEAKER_03: I'm so happy you were on here debuting.
31:40
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if this is your first, your second, third, fourth, tenth, but I'm happy you're speaking on this show because I'm gonna say, I remember when I remember when we see all these stage, I remember when he was on our stage here on Live Your Legacy 74 H D for any of our audio listeners.
31:58
SPEAKER_03: That's Linktree forward slash Sean S H A U N S 74H D.
32:06
SPEAKER_03: And with that being said, I want to say thank you for listening.
32:11
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32:16
SPEAKER_03: You can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast.
32:24
SPEAKER_03: And with that being said, thank you again for being here.
32:28
SPEAKER_03: And until next time, may the force be with you.
32:31
SPEAKER_03: God bless, Sean.
32:32
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
32:33
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
32:34
SPEAKER_03: Bye bye.
32:35
SPEAKER_01: And every turning point holds the power of legacy.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: Every step, every star, every star we make it.