Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Memphis Bleek Talks Jay-z's Yankee Stadium Shows, Roc Nation, Dame Dash, Music Industry Then Vs. Now + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Don't every day up, Wake, Wake yours up.
- 0:04Speaker 2: The breakfast club.
- 0:05Speaker 3: You know I'm finish for y'all done.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Morning.
- 0:09Speaker 4: Everybody is the DJ Envy just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy.
- 0:13Speaker 4: We are the breakfast club. Lola Rosas here. We got
- 0:15Speaker 4: a special guest.
- 0:16Speaker 1: In the building.
- 0:16Speaker 5: Indeed, you got Memphis Blake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's up?
- 0:20Speaker 5: Fresh off the standing on my feet tall?
- 0:24Speaker 6: I got on right now and it's ninety degrees outside.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Yo. I feel you.
- 0:28Speaker 5: I need they need to make some some cottons for
- 0:30Speaker 5: the men something.
- 0:31Speaker 2: But y'all chosen standing the risings though. I was like,
- 0:34Speaker 2: I'm not standing in that rising?
- 0:36Speaker 3: Why not?
- 0:37Speaker 2: Though?
- 0:37Speaker 3: That's where I can't catch smoking the sweet.
- 0:41Speaker 2: I did this sweet two nights, but then I did
- 0:43Speaker 2: the floor Sunday. I'd rather just sit down.
- 0:45Speaker 5: I like to do the sweet. When I got my daughter,
- 0:48Speaker 5: I'm by myself, Me and my wife.
- 0:49Speaker 3: We thug it.
- 0:50Speaker 5: We in the field. She won't get drugs, your most
- 0:52Speaker 5: franky liman. Last night it's her birthday.
- 0:56Speaker 3: It was all hot.
- 0:57Speaker 5: It's too much woof smoke. My whole family, mein and
- 1:02Speaker 5: my daughter. That craz It wasn't playing, It wasn't playing,
- 1:06Speaker 5: just happened.
- 1:07Speaker 4: All the whole concerts because you've been to THEMN near
- 1:10Speaker 4: all of them.
- 1:11Speaker 1: Yeah, where do you put this on the list?
- 1:13Speaker 5: This top This's definitely top three. And which night the
- 1:16Speaker 5: first one?
- 1:17Speaker 3: The night with me.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Reason that was the best night?
- 1:20Speaker 5: It was definitely, definitely because that was I feel like
- 1:23Speaker 5: that was Call Call Fans, and like I told Jay
- 1:27Speaker 5: at the end of that show, it was like, Yo,
- 1:29Speaker 5: it's unbelievable to really think about it. Thirty years ago
- 1:32Speaker 5: today we prayed this will work, and here we are
- 1:35Speaker 5: thirty years later and this is this is the results
- 1:37Speaker 5: of it worked.
- 1:39Speaker 2: Call Call Fans and man. On Friday Night, there was
- 1:42Speaker 2: a story told like it felt like watching a movie
- 1:44Speaker 2: like you saw, like the Origin story. Like I didn't
- 1:48Speaker 2: get that the other two nights. I did for Saturday,
- 1:50Speaker 2: but it was something else I realized about Saturday. Blueprint
- 1:53Speaker 2: has always been overshadowed by nine to eleven.
- 1:55Speaker 5: Definitely, And I think Part two, like Night two, was
- 1:59Speaker 5: more of a party night, like it was.
- 2:01Speaker 3: More of a crowd I was.
- 2:03Speaker 4: I was in Virginia for night too, but I seen
- 2:05Speaker 4: it on the stream shot It's biscuits, It's biscuits stream
- 2:07Speaker 4: the whole thing I was able to watch it, but
- 2:08Speaker 4: Friday Night, when I was there, it just seemed like
- 2:11Speaker 4: hardcore whole fans, like the ones that knew every word
- 2:16Speaker 4: and just wanted to hear her listen, and you know,
- 2:18Speaker 4: I was.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Crowd, didn't know, I know, but it didn't matter because
- 2:22Speaker 2: the show was so good. It was like, even if
- 2:24Speaker 2: you didn't know, you got familiar.
- 2:25Speaker 4: Tuesdays missing from from the Friday Night Foxy Inger, Sauce
- 2:31Speaker 4: money yo.
- 2:31Speaker 5: I heard through the grave vine. I don't know how
- 2:33Speaker 5: true it is. It's just what I heard. They said
- 2:35Speaker 5: Fox was there and she.
- 2:36Speaker 7: Got I just wanted to see her, like even if
- 2:39Speaker 7: I just walked past her, I just wanted to see
- 2:41Speaker 7: her in real life too.
- 2:42Speaker 5: I ain't seen nobody I've seen gaff Yes had the
- 2:44Speaker 5: word up, shout out, gave but they said she was there.
- 2:47Speaker 1: They kept teasing all.
- 2:49Speaker 3: That's what I heard. I don't know how true it is,
- 2:51Speaker 3: but you know, rumor has.
- 2:53Speaker 1: It, damn because that would have been a crazy one.
- 2:54Speaker 3: What about Sauce, Oh, I heard they reached out the
- 2:58Speaker 3: sauce too.
- 2:58Speaker 5: The line just wasn't you know return that was.
- 3:02Speaker 3: A major one. I wanted to see.
- 3:04Speaker 5: I wanted to see the jazz o, Sauce Jay back
- 3:08Speaker 5: because that's what it started with.
- 3:10Speaker 3: You know. Of course we.
- 3:11Speaker 5: Get the Dame, Dash Bigs, Jay Bleak Beans, that Rockefeller,
- 3:16Speaker 5: But to me, the original rock with Sauce, Jazz and
- 3:19Speaker 5: j Man Like. I don't think it's no no trio
- 3:23Speaker 5: that can rap better than that. Three people right there,
- 3:26Speaker 5: that's my top.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Three called in a bump during on Sunday.
- 3:29Speaker 3: Yo, Yo, you've seen the video got on stage, Yo.
- 3:39Speaker 3: Dame is hilarious. Man.
- 3:42Speaker 1: What did that mean for you to see thirty years.
- 3:45Speaker 4: Of Reasonable Doubt where that was your start, that was
- 3:47Speaker 4: your call into the world.
- 3:49Speaker 5: It's it's it's kind of surreal, bro, because I never
- 3:53Speaker 5: imagine we could take it this far.
- 3:54Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
- 3:55Speaker 5: My whole thing back then was to get a couple
- 3:58Speaker 5: of dollars, you know, get a few hours off. It's
- 4:00Speaker 5: some cars, maybe we chill a few summers. I ain't
- 4:03Speaker 5: think thirty years later, remember when Reasonable Doubt drop? I
- 4:06Speaker 5: was eighteen, Bro, that's crazy forty eight and we're still
- 4:10Speaker 5: doing it.
- 4:11Speaker 3: That's why I even had to tell that to Ja.
- 4:12Speaker 5: I don't think no other artists from my era, even
- 4:15Speaker 5: before hip hop, can do what he did these three days.
- 4:18Speaker 5: It's namely another artist that can celebrate their first album
- 4:23Speaker 5: released before the generation today wasn't even born when reasonable
- 4:28Speaker 5: doubt dropped.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Maybe one who Snoop, Snoop, Snoop, Snoop, Snoop.
- 4:32Speaker 3: I give it yeah, Snooop. Yeah, Doggie Sty ain't on
- 4:35Speaker 3: front Snoop.
- 4:36Speaker 2: It probably Snoop. He's probably the only one, yeah, from
- 4:39Speaker 2: that from that era. He actually before ya before Yeah, yeah.
- 4:43Speaker 3: Yeah, Snoop. I give it to Snoop.
- 4:45Speaker 5: But then who else I was trying to think, I'm like, yo,
- 4:48Speaker 5: who else can do this thirty years? Even if forty
- 4:51Speaker 5: or twenty years. Some people can't even do a twenty year.
- 4:58Speaker 1: The only one I could think of.
- 4:59Speaker 5: Three nights in the and then you sell out Blueprint
- 5:02Speaker 5: and you let people know this.
- 5:03Speaker 3: Is this is just the album.
- 5:05Speaker 5: This is not like Yo, we playing around and play
- 5:08Speaker 5: a few songs. No, we're focusing solely on this project.
- 5:13Speaker 5: You can't even do that. I can't be like, yo,
- 5:14Speaker 5: we're doing coming age only it's like you.
- 5:16Speaker 3: Know what we out. You can do that plaster, yeah,
- 5:22Speaker 3: you know, Plaza through MARSI day. You know what I'm saying.
- 5:27Speaker 4: It was dope that he brought out Nads to I
- 5:29Speaker 4: thought that was dope. And the way he brought out
- 5:31Speaker 4: Nads because everybody expected Nads to do the hook right,
- 5:34Speaker 4: Nas wasn't there for the hook, the.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Last hook him and right into Who's world.
- 5:38Speaker 5: It was just the way they did that was just
- 5:40Speaker 5: I give j T number one transition from song to song.
- 5:47Speaker 3: Word.
- 5:47Speaker 5: It's insane that how he mixed rhymes with songs, beats
- 5:51Speaker 5: with songs. It's yo, Bro, I'm I'm a fan still
- 5:55Speaker 5: and I always tell him like, Yo, you never seen
- 5:58Speaker 5: the not amaze me.
- 6:00Speaker 3: Bro. You when I think what you're gonna do next,
- 6:03Speaker 3: you pull out.
- 6:04Speaker 5: Something I wasn't even thinking about, Like the beat switches
- 6:07Speaker 5: this show as in pecka gil Man, Like straight up.
- 6:10Speaker 2: There was a couple of moments out there I was like,
- 6:13Speaker 2: I know he out there by himself, but he needs
- 6:15Speaker 2: a bleakly.
- 6:17Speaker 6: Miss yesterday.
- 6:22Speaker 7: That energy he did Sunday Night yesterday that he like,
- 6:25Speaker 7: he was like just they just switched the song.
- 6:27Speaker 6: Eventually, I forget what it was, Yeah, but it was a.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Couple of times like, yeah, he needs just the hype
- 6:32Speaker 2: man in the back of the crowd were singing the.
- 6:34Speaker 3: World for what But he needs that, you know what
- 6:36Speaker 3: I mean?
- 6:37Speaker 2: Yo?
- 6:38Speaker 3: Man share that stage time? Yo?
- 6:42Speaker 1: Is he working on the new album? That that was
- 6:43Speaker 1: another room or that?
- 6:46Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 6:46Speaker 5: I'm been sending them records, records upon records, like the
- 6:50Speaker 5: record I just dropped no More. I sent it to him.
- 6:53Speaker 5: That's why I came out too, because you know, whole
- 6:55Speaker 5: on everything. I sent him a record that's that, ain't it?
- 6:58Speaker 5: And they hit me back and said, Yo, this one
- 7:00Speaker 5: of the dopest hooks I heard in a long time. Yo,
- 7:02Speaker 5: let's sen press that up next single. So that's how
- 7:06Speaker 5: we dropped it. I thought he was gonna put a
- 7:08Speaker 5: verse on it, but who knows. Google got some shit
- 7:11Speaker 5: goo tucking. We got to get the album. We gotta
- 7:13Speaker 5: stick go up.
- 7:16Speaker 6: And said it on stage that there's some music that.
- 7:19Speaker 5: If Pharrell's talking that smoke right, say, I would hope
- 7:21Speaker 5: you kill all them. He kind of stopped talking like
- 7:24Speaker 5: that because he gonna get the suicide bombs, thinking.
- 7:27Speaker 3: It's really war.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Do you think reasonable can even get made today? I
- 7:32Speaker 2: have the music business change too much.
- 7:34Speaker 3: I think it could get made today.
- 7:36Speaker 5: I believe so, just like the rock Kim albums, I
- 7:39Speaker 5: believe they they they stand to test the time because
- 7:43Speaker 5: it speaks of not a time stamp, just a mentality.
- 7:48Speaker 5: And I believe that mentality is gonna live forever. And
- 7:51Speaker 5: it's a hustler like everybody trying to find a way
- 7:54Speaker 5: to turn one into two and two in the four,
- 7:56Speaker 5: you know what I mean, and changed their circumstances, So
- 7:59Speaker 5: reasonable doubt can any day that they hustle a die,
- 8:02Speaker 5: or we're a person that hustle want to get make better,
- 8:05Speaker 5: then that's when reasonable doubt don't exist no more.
- 8:07Speaker 3: And I don't think that's ever gonna happen.
- 8:09Speaker 4: Y'all gotta change with the times, because if you really
- 8:11Speaker 4: think about it, right, when Jay's rapping on Friday, it
- 8:14Speaker 4: was really every bit of four or five minutes a record.
- 8:17Speaker 4: No now nowadays it's two minutes, right, artist gonna say
- 8:20Speaker 4: you're done in twenty four minutes? It was every bit
- 8:22Speaker 4: of five minutes.
- 8:23Speaker 5: He even gave you the outro lines and everything that
- 8:26Speaker 5: yo I was saying that I didn't. The workout game
- 8:28Speaker 5: is crazy because first of all, to do one show
- 8:32Speaker 5: by yourself, no hype man letting on three for three
- 8:35Speaker 5: hours and it ain't like you know you you DJ shows.
- 8:39Speaker 5: We all been to a bunch of shows. Niggas take
- 8:41Speaker 5: that break after that record, get some water. This nigg
- 8:44Speaker 5: go fifteen records back to back, and then he let
- 8:47Speaker 5: somebody else get a shine for his break.
- 8:49Speaker 3: But I can't. I don't know.
- 8:51Speaker 5: I got to find out who his new trainer is.
- 8:54Speaker 5: Word up, because that's it's impressive.
- 8:56Speaker 2: What song from the album do you hear differently today
- 8:59Speaker 2: than you did with? He was eighteen?
- 9:02Speaker 5: Cashmere thoughts man? I didn't understand it as a kid.
- 9:06Speaker 3: He was talking too too much. Williism my money wasn't right.
- 9:10Speaker 3: I didn't.
- 9:10Speaker 5: I was still hearing Hot Sauce and chicken Wings back then.
- 9:14Speaker 5: So now when I hear that record, it's like, that's
- 9:17Speaker 5: the life I'm living. I fucking see what he meant,
- 9:20Speaker 5: Like goddamn, this is what he meant, and it took
- 9:23Speaker 5: me thirty years to understand it.
- 9:25Speaker 3: So I feel like a lot of his whole catalog
- 9:28Speaker 3: is that way.
- 9:28Speaker 5: It's like Jay been teaching us for years, and unless
- 9:31Speaker 5: you're ready to learn, you ain't gonna understand it.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Why do you think RD keeps agent agent like just
- 9:38Speaker 2: better than a lot of things? Instead of feeling dated?
- 9:41Speaker 5: Like I said, it's the hustle mentality of it, Like
- 9:44Speaker 5: it's just the hunger like to see like Jay is
- 9:47Speaker 5: the epitome of going from denial to undeniable, you know
- 9:52Speaker 5: what I mean. Like think about it. When they were
- 9:54Speaker 5: shopping reasonable doubt or anything before, they was looking at
- 9:57Speaker 5: Jay like Haha, ain't no way, You're not that.
- 9:59Speaker 3: Guy out of there. And then to take over.
- 10:02Speaker 5: It's like every I don't even want to say child,
- 10:06Speaker 5: every human being want to do that. Bro, come back
- 10:09Speaker 5: that defiant like, oh, we all dream of that, Like shit,
- 10:13Speaker 5: I know y'all want to come by aha one day.
- 10:16Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's a dream like who knows?
- 10:18Speaker 5: And to be able to accomplish that, that's it.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Bro.
- 10:21Speaker 7: I saw him talk about that when he did a
- 10:22Speaker 7: GQ interview, and I was wondering, like, during that time,
- 10:26Speaker 7: what was his attitude like, because it seems like he's
- 10:28Speaker 7: always unfaced, so when people wasn't really fooling a reasonable doubt,
- 10:31Speaker 7: Like how was he receiving that.
- 10:35Speaker 3: It's hard to shit when you come in the game
- 10:38Speaker 3: a millionaire.
- 10:38Speaker 5: I guess feelings, don't you don't show them, like you
- 10:41Speaker 5: don't wear him on your sleeve, like the average guy,
- 10:43Speaker 5: like when we tell you I came in this game
- 10:45Speaker 5: nine hundred strong. Yeah, you wanted the music to pop
- 10:48Speaker 5: and everybody to rock with you. But I don't think
- 10:51Speaker 5: it maded because remember he wanted to retire after the
- 10:54Speaker 5: first album.
- 10:54Speaker 3: You knew that was the whole goal of Rockefeller.
- 10:56Speaker 5: We dropped it one hour, one album and we're retiring.
- 10:59Speaker 2: That's over.
- 11:00Speaker 5: We're going with sorts of money. We had some girl,
- 11:03Speaker 5: what rough ends or roughness? We had Christian that was
- 11:07Speaker 5: the whole focus. So Jay doing twelve and fourteen albums, that's.
- 11:11Speaker 3: A new script. So it's just amazing.
- 11:16Speaker 2: That is what hip hop would have been like if
- 11:17Speaker 2: he would have follow through it.
- 11:19Speaker 3: That I'd have been the best.
- 11:28Speaker 4: Is it odd to see people that y'all were in
- 11:31Speaker 4: war with at the show support and like the whole thing,
- 11:35Speaker 4: Like whether it was Terror squad or it was nas
- 11:38Speaker 4: in them or whatever it may because it was so
- 11:40Speaker 4: many people in the stairs.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Is that odd to see those people like you're at
- 11:43Speaker 1: war with? But now it's fair?
- 11:45Speaker 3: No, I actually love it, man.
- 11:47Speaker 5: You know, I was talking to Jazz about this backstage, man,
- 11:50Speaker 5: and it's like.
- 11:51Speaker 3: You know, when we were young, all we knew was
- 11:54Speaker 3: protect young.
- 11:55Speaker 5: That's it represents your crew, represent your what part of
- 11:59Speaker 5: the city you're from. Fuck ebody else is just solely
- 12:01Speaker 5: about us. And I feel like if we're gonna teach
- 12:05Speaker 5: preach the message of keep you hip hop is together,
- 12:08Speaker 5: one big community, we gotta be like more like the South.
- 12:12Speaker 5: Everybody got in New York is too much drama. I
- 12:14Speaker 5: actually love that we able to bury the hatchet now
- 12:17Speaker 5: become family more than just friends.
- 12:20Speaker 3: Because fat Joe, that's my dog. Like me and Joe.
- 12:23Speaker 5: He was driving through the city the other day and
- 12:25Speaker 5: saw me stand in front of the hotel with my wife,
- 12:27Speaker 5: pulled the calls and everything he did. Never did that.
- 12:30Speaker 5: He'd probably tried to hit me with the car. Absolutely
- 12:33Speaker 5: feel me. I'd had to jump out the way. Oh shit,
- 12:35Speaker 5: we gotta kill Joe now ready. So I love it
- 12:39Speaker 5: because what better way the show the jend you the
- 12:43Speaker 5: ones coming after us that is possible than the lead
- 12:47Speaker 5: by example.
- 12:48Speaker 3: No better way.
- 12:49Speaker 2: I don't think people know this generation than Na started
- 12:52Speaker 2: to you.
- 12:52Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yo, that's why I want to get knaves
- 12:55Speaker 5: on the podcast because me and Nory said one day, right,
- 12:58Speaker 5: he was like, yo, imagine you sit down and you
- 12:59Speaker 5: get the chance to agnize him, be like, Yo, that
- 13:02Speaker 5: line let.
- 13:03Speaker 3: The slug melt in your hat? Was that about you?
- 13:05Speaker 3: And he say no.
- 13:06Speaker 5: He's like, he was like, yo, what would you do?
- 13:09Speaker 5: What would you think? I'm like, you know, you know,
- 13:10Speaker 5: I never thought about that. He'd be like, that means
- 13:12Speaker 5: you started the biggest war for nothing, for nothing. So
- 13:15Speaker 5: I really wanted to ask, now, your fan was you
- 13:17Speaker 5: to imagine? He do say no though, yeah, because you
- 13:22Speaker 5: know it's not that set.
- 13:24Speaker 2: But why think that was about you? Just because you.
- 13:26Speaker 3: Because the hood gats me up. I was a nigga
- 13:28Speaker 3: wearing hats to do you have? Like you know?
- 13:31Speaker 5: They was like, yeah, talking about you? So I said,
- 13:33Speaker 5: gotta be true. So we I never got to the
- 13:36Speaker 5: bottom of it. I was supposed to, you know what's
- 13:37Speaker 5: so crazy? Me and Jungle spoke recently and he was
- 13:41Speaker 5: supposed to come on the part, but you know, scheduling,
- 13:43Speaker 5: we're still trying to work that out. I was gonna
- 13:46Speaker 5: ask him, so somebody gonna answer you fair, was your
- 13:49Speaker 5: gunning at me?
- 13:50Speaker 3: And if he say no, I'm gonna feel like an asshole. Man.
- 13:53Speaker 3: I ain't gonna be like damn.
- 13:55Speaker 5: That's the effect of niggas put the major battery.
- 14:00Speaker 3: And my dad.
- 14:01Speaker 2: So then you replied with my life, your lifestyles, you're
- 14:04Speaker 2: supposed to be playing. Yeah, and then it was it
- 14:06Speaker 2: was on Mchi Robinson and then he came with the.
- 14:12Speaker 5: Shoot yeah yeah up the freeway. He tried to kill
- 14:16Speaker 5: all of us. Yeah, he was on some ship and so.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Was not. I stand down, yeah.
- 14:24Speaker 5: Jay, it was like we got this and then take
- 14:27Speaker 5: over the High ninety seven and niggas was yo. I
- 14:31Speaker 5: heard some queen stories. Man, Naves was foul. What you
- 14:35Speaker 5: mean Nives was trying to recruit niggash Yeah.
- 14:38Speaker 4: Even what he was gonna do for summer jam like
- 14:40Speaker 4: that just came out recently where they showed him about
- 14:42Speaker 4: the lynch hole and they had the prosthetic face.
- 14:44Speaker 2: Of ja, I want to hear this street ship.
- 14:46Speaker 3: What you mean.
- 14:49Speaker 5: Knaves had a secret meet and recruiting niggas who ain't
- 14:52Speaker 5: even get this. It was telling niggas yo, they dissed you.
- 14:55Speaker 5: He was on the Massie Niggas ship. What they did
- 14:58Speaker 5: to meat, he was trying to do to a couple
- 14:59Speaker 5: of quick niggas. So but I'm glad that they work out. No,
- 15:03Speaker 5: they was like, you know what I mean.
- 15:04Speaker 3: I don't think so niggas had they they was like
- 15:07Speaker 3: Nas you cap it.
- 15:08Speaker 2: Fit clearly they clearly those two factions y'all wanted to
- 15:12Speaker 2: get at each other because if it wasn't nothing, somebody
- 15:15Speaker 2: would just been like, yo, that wasn't nothing like.
- 15:17Speaker 5: But nah, I never yo, Bro, I never wanted to
- 15:20Speaker 5: get at nobody in this game but Bank of America.
- 15:24Speaker 5: I never looked at no Rap on TV or his
- 15:27Speaker 5: album and felt like, Man, I'm gonna come at that.
- 15:30Speaker 5: I'm coming for his spot. They didn't matter to me.
- 15:33Speaker 5: It was like you just can't fuck with me. Well
- 15:35Speaker 5: you're gonna make room for me, or you're gonna move
- 15:37Speaker 5: out the way. But I never wanted to be with
- 15:39Speaker 5: anybody like Nazingham was the guys Mob Deep with the
- 15:42Speaker 5: Rest of Peace, Prodigy like they was the fucking guys
- 15:46Speaker 5: they dropped before us. That's ninety four. We came out
- 15:49Speaker 5: ninety six. So they set the tone in NYC between
- 15:53Speaker 5: Big Nas Wu Tang come on Bro, we didn't. I
- 15:57Speaker 5: don't think we was coming up in the game like yeah,
- 16:00Speaker 5: gonna gun at all these niggas. We was hoping it
- 16:03Speaker 5: could be what it is today. Everybody cool but you
- 16:06Speaker 5: know that New York energy back then, Bro, it was
- 16:10Speaker 5: It's not it just wasn't gonna happen.
- 16:13Speaker 1: What about takeover?
- 16:13Speaker 2: Right?
- 16:14Speaker 4: I understand why he doesn't do it, but it's still
- 16:18Speaker 4: you can't perform that.
- 16:20Speaker 5: It's going an album, it's a single, but still you can't.
- 16:25Speaker 3: But it's just so's you can't.
- 16:27Speaker 5: You can't just out of respect, just out of respect, bro,
- 16:31Speaker 5: you can't do that.
- 16:32Speaker 3: Like that's like I'm still member.
- 16:37Speaker 2: History history.
- 16:39Speaker 5: It's not a freestyle that was part of I still
- 16:42Speaker 5: wasn't here the freestyle where he remember he was going
- 16:44Speaker 5: after at the Apollo, not that one when before Pop
- 16:49Speaker 5: passed away, Jay had a show at the Apollo with
- 16:52Speaker 5: Biggie and he premiered the disc over the Tracy Lee
- 16:56Speaker 5: by where he was rhyming at my rap from the
- 16:59Speaker 5: dra Day to the Sugar Night, Yo, prob'lem looking for
- 17:02Speaker 5: this song forever Tracy Lee beat, Yeah the party, Yeah
- 17:07Speaker 5: that's how long ago. But then the news of Pop
- 17:09Speaker 5: passing happened and he never released the record because he
- 17:12Speaker 5: had a freestyle going there, you know what I mean?
- 17:14Speaker 2: But so whatever my crew go, you can't just pok
- 17:18Speaker 2: over that. You need something. It was crazy.
- 17:20Speaker 3: Bro, you listen to that beat. That's one of the
- 17:23Speaker 3: hardest beats.
- 17:25Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't do that to Lee.
- 17:30Speaker 2: I remember it being a party record.
- 17:32Speaker 5: He made it a party but that beat was one
- 17:33Speaker 5: of the grammiest beats back then.
- 17:35Speaker 1: Find that now.
- 17:36Speaker 2: Yeah I heard Clock kick Godlet I heard Clock talk
- 17:40Speaker 2: about that.
- 17:40Speaker 5: Yeah, No, that was That was one of those records.
- 17:43Speaker 5: I was like, oh, so Jay always been on that.
- 17:45Speaker 5: He gonna respect like he ain't gonna never disrespect the dad.
- 17:49Speaker 5: Or if it just don't fill right in line with
- 17:51Speaker 5: the spirit, it ain't gonna it ain't gonna go.
- 17:53Speaker 3: But let's get through you hold on.
- 17:55Speaker 2: You remember the lyrics from that record.
- 17:57Speaker 5: Just that one, right from the dre Day to the
- 17:58Speaker 5: Sugar Night, because that shit was like smoky what I do? Yeah,
- 18:03Speaker 5: they said you was a double agent. I want to
- 18:06Speaker 5: know why who you're superior? I gotta go talk to
- 18:11Speaker 5: super ship. I can't get in there. You're good.
- 18:15Speaker 3: You were taking by Geico.
- 18:21Speaker 4: I can't he'd be having like this little rock but
- 18:26Speaker 4: it got a camerad my supervisor.
- 18:29Speaker 5: That ship had me dying at the intern that they
- 18:32Speaker 5: figured some ship out, like like what is the problem?
- 18:36Speaker 3: Yo?
- 18:37Speaker 5: Netflix I'm about to work with your niggas too, so
- 18:41Speaker 5: they taught me I'm a double agent.
- 18:42Speaker 3: Fucking triple agent, blizz.
- 18:45Speaker 2: I don't understand what's the problem though.
- 18:47Speaker 3: I don't know. That's why I wanted to ask you, like,
- 18:49Speaker 3: what did you do?
- 18:50Speaker 2: I don't know, just investing you see what I'm saying
- 18:53Speaker 2: right right?
- 18:54Speaker 3: I thought that's the name of the game.
- 18:55Speaker 2: Invest with one of the biggest conglomerates in the game
- 18:59Speaker 2: that we're trying to do.
- 19:01Speaker 5: They ain't never asked me then, why, Like.
- 19:08Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's drug. No, that's not a casino, yo.
- 19:12Speaker 2: I mean, your alcohol is a multi billion dollar it
- 19:16Speaker 2: is has so many lounges at the Yankee Stadium.
- 19:19Speaker 5: Do say is my life? That's my baby? Listen, do
- 19:21Speaker 5: say I love it? That drink it every day. That's
- 19:23Speaker 5: my that's my baby. What a casino? Think my daughter
- 19:29Speaker 5: got to wait till she's twenty one and enjoy this investment.
- 19:33Speaker 3: I might not. I'm willing. I'm here. I want a casino.
- 19:38Speaker 3: We could walk through this. She gave hit them slatch
- 19:40Speaker 3: chin chin is clicking, daddy clicking.
- 19:46Speaker 2: I won't end. I feel like y'all got more issues
- 19:50Speaker 2: now with podcasters and YouTubers than you ever had with rappers.
- 19:54Speaker 5: Yo, it's smoky right every day Yo, I go on Twitter,
- 19:58Speaker 5: my whole timeline, it's jay Z and everybody what they feel. Yo,
- 20:02Speaker 5: he doing this, He's doing I'll be dying because I
- 20:04Speaker 5: love it. I'd be like, these people don't know this
- 20:06Speaker 5: man from a man. If you man, they don't have
- 20:11Speaker 5: a clue. They'd be making up all this crazy shit.
- 20:13Speaker 5: And it's like, all right, if he's involved, why I'm
- 20:17Speaker 5: not like that's why it's like, wait a minute.
- 20:20Speaker 3: If Charlemagne a double agent, then what am I the fuck?
- 20:26Speaker 3: I'm talk clues to this ship this But you've been
- 20:28Speaker 3: down for so long.
- 20:29Speaker 6: People just used to it a new recruit.
- 20:31Speaker 3: Yeah, but I supposed to be training.
- 20:34Speaker 5: He yo, something he just skiing?
- 20:40Speaker 4: Like, but is that, babbie? Because it's like, you know, podcasts,
- 20:44Speaker 4: they can say whatever they want and there's no repercussions.
- 20:46Speaker 4: Right back in the day, the reason rappers didn't is
- 20:48Speaker 4: because you would see them.
- 20:50Speaker 1: But now these podcasts.
- 20:51Speaker 5: Say whatever they want and they don't come outside, and
- 20:53Speaker 5: if you do something, they gonna suit. But that's why
- 20:55Speaker 5: you gotta have a suicide Obama with you hon't got
- 20:57Speaker 5: no money, so he just come out of left field
- 21:00Speaker 5: l a I and they like, who did that?
- 21:02Speaker 2: But that could be a liability to though they don't
- 21:04Speaker 2: know he with you.
- 21:05Speaker 3: You just blow up instantly boom. They like, what happened?
- 21:09Speaker 3: Who's that mass man?
- 21:12Speaker 2: That shit is funny though I don't know where these
- 21:13Speaker 2: rumors come from. Like people be like so Yo, Like
- 21:16Speaker 2: last time I'm at the concert, They're like, Yo, what
- 21:18Speaker 2: so I know you talked to Jake.
- 21:19Speaker 3: I don't talk to no j Yo.
- 21:21Speaker 5: I was getting calls people texting me, Yo, what's the
- 21:23Speaker 5: hold up?
- 21:24Speaker 3: Nigga drunk? I'm not backstage? I don't know.
- 21:28Speaker 5: Like I even called Ghoul Yo, gool, what's going on?
- 21:31Speaker 5: Like bleak is crazy? I call you back?
- 21:33Speaker 3: He never called me back.
- 21:35Speaker 2: I was just telling everybody, damn calling a bomber everybody
- 21:37Speaker 2: that came to me yoe. And you know what made
- 21:40Speaker 2: it funny is people.
- 21:41Speaker 1: Was like for real, Yo, A lot of people don't
- 21:44Speaker 1: believe that.
- 21:44Speaker 5: They will believe that, like because the way shit going
- 21:47Speaker 5: right now, they will believe Yo, dame or some ship
- 21:49Speaker 5: shut it down. I ain't invited shut it down.
- 21:52Speaker 2: He wanted to be there though. Of course he posted
- 21:56Speaker 2: that one guy saying that he should really be there.
- 21:58Speaker 2: He wanted to be there.
- 22:00Speaker 5: It's like, all right, it's to me, man, it's it's
- 22:03Speaker 5: fucked up. It is what it is, though, Man, you
- 22:05Speaker 5: you make your bad you laying it right.
- 22:06Speaker 3: That's what they said. That's what That's what they told me.
- 22:09Speaker 2: Does it feel like something missing?
- 22:10Speaker 5: No, just being in one honed like yo, word up.
- 22:18Speaker 5: The only time we ship.
- 22:19Speaker 3: They could gotta die for us to miss you.
- 22:22Speaker 7: He was supposed to old pictures and I'm like, Dang,
- 22:24Speaker 7: like I know you're doing a lot of reminiscent right now.
- 22:26Speaker 6: Like he don't even just I can't.
- 22:28Speaker 5: Lenny don't share no pictures, so I don't even have
- 22:31Speaker 5: no old pictures to reminist So Dang been posting old.
- 22:34Speaker 6: Joint pages tagging him and stuff, and he be reposting it.
- 22:37Speaker 5: But he says, that's the Google pictures we've been We've
- 22:40Speaker 5: seen those.
- 22:41Speaker 3: I want to see the vault pictures. Lenny tucking. We
- 22:44Speaker 3: gotta rob Lenny too, He.
- 22:46Speaker 5: Got you want to rob Lenny because you got the music,
- 22:50Speaker 5: got the picture, the history.
- 22:52Speaker 3: If we could get the music with the pictures, we
- 22:55Speaker 3: don't need Jay.
- 22:55Speaker 5: He can stay in the hand, can create our own
- 22:58Speaker 5: timeline video everything we can drive our own project.
- 23:02Speaker 2: I thought it was crossing wires with you and Lenny
- 23:06Speaker 2: because of a story about Lairel about who found Guru.
- 23:10Speaker 5: Oh my god, right, that's crazy, right, everybody that lare
- 23:14Speaker 5: You know that, right.
- 23:15Speaker 1: It's not Loreel from Atlanta, you know.
- 23:17Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you just said you'll make sure people know.
- 23:21Speaker 5: You live in the world today where everybody want their credit.
- 23:26Speaker 5: I want to know why credit. Don't spend. All I
- 23:28Speaker 5: want is the money. I do a lot of ship.
- 23:32Speaker 5: I want people to say, cheach, did it my man cheat?
- 23:35Speaker 5: Give him all the credit, but just send the check.
- 23:38Speaker 4: I think Loreol, I think it matters Lareel because I
- 23:40Speaker 4: think at first everybody said no, and she was the
- 23:43Speaker 4: one that was really pushing for.
- 23:44Speaker 3: Guru to work with you.
- 23:45Speaker 2: You just want history to she wanted to.
- 23:47Speaker 1: She want history told.
- 23:49Speaker 3: All right, I said it. I've been on many platforms.
- 23:52Speaker 5: I tell everybody that the person who bought Guru to
- 23:55Speaker 5: me was Loreal.
- 23:56Speaker 6: I just clicked the headline says that now behind.
- 23:58Speaker 5: The scenes with hip Ho Lenny as member, they were
- 24:01Speaker 5: the A and r's and the label heads. I didn't
- 24:04Speaker 5: I don't know what the discussions were. But she had
- 24:08Speaker 5: a lot of other talented engineers. Yeah, what about Darrow?
- 24:12Speaker 5: She had you know what I'm saying, you had?
- 24:15Speaker 1: Who else?
- 24:16Speaker 3: You had? Pat Villa, b Stanley.
- 24:21Speaker 4: She had all the legend that's what engineers really matter,
- 24:24Speaker 4: Like you really cared about the engineer, how to mix
- 24:26Speaker 4: sounding and everything.
- 24:27Speaker 2: She had.
- 24:28Speaker 5: All of them names are crew affiliating guru. Rockefeller, b Stanley,
- 24:33Speaker 5: and pat Villa was went the g unit. Du Row
- 24:37Speaker 5: was Desert Storm. Everybody is historic in their own way.
- 24:41Speaker 5: Why is it only about this one? Talk about everybody
- 24:46Speaker 5: that was on the roster, right or I.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Don't know, did you and Lenny talk about that? Like
- 24:50Speaker 2: you know, you might need to just say, what's up
- 24:52Speaker 2: to Lauria?
- 24:53Speaker 3: Lenny gonna get beat up Luri. Laurie's gonna come in
- 24:59Speaker 3: and flip that day.
- 25:00Speaker 4: Yes, but Lenny did a lot too, started for starting
- 25:04Speaker 4: and people don't see this out of it, like he
- 25:05Speaker 4: started from the street team putting the posters.
- 25:08Speaker 3: But let me really break it down.
- 25:11Speaker 5: How Lennys right, This is the real deal with how
- 25:15Speaker 5: I feel, and Lennys is is the goat in my
- 25:18Speaker 5: eyes because when Rockefeller back then, when Beans got signed,
- 25:24Speaker 5: remember I was the first artist.
- 25:25Speaker 3: Everything.
- 25:26Speaker 5: It's all right, coming to age, coming age two. They
- 25:30Speaker 5: was prepping for Yo, We're gonna work on Bleak album.
- 25:33Speaker 5: But Jay got on another project, did Volume two.
- 25:36Speaker 3: No. Volume one is when he got the Sunshine record.
- 25:40Speaker 5: With baby Face and all that. So it was a
- 25:42Speaker 5: whole different direction. Fuck Bleak right now, nigga. We got
- 25:45Speaker 5: pop hits, we out of here. We got baby Face,
- 25:47Speaker 5: we got Little.
- 25:48Speaker 3: Kim on the record. Puff on him.
- 25:50Speaker 5: We out of here. Blitz, were gonna focus on you later.
- 25:53Speaker 5: And then Beans came and it was like, Bleak, we
- 25:56Speaker 5: ain't checking for you all.
- 25:58Speaker 3: Nigga.
- 25:58Speaker 5: You see this nigga right here, lock in with him.
- 26:02Speaker 5: So then Lenny was the only one member. Back then,
- 26:04Speaker 5: Lenny was the photographer. He used to take the pictures,
- 26:08Speaker 5: sell him the vibe, sauce, all of that type of stuff.
- 26:11Speaker 5: And Lynn came to me and was like, Yo, bro,
- 26:13Speaker 5: I see your hunger. I know you want to work.
- 26:15Speaker 5: I got the studio plug, I got some producers that
- 26:18Speaker 5: got beat Let's lock in.
- 26:19Speaker 3: He was not an A and R. He was not none.
- 26:22Speaker 3: They didn't give him the initiative to do my project. Nothing.
- 26:25Speaker 5: We went the Breout Studio did a whole album together
- 26:28Speaker 5: me him Buck Wow, wasn't even no guru back then.
- 26:32Speaker 5: My first album me and Lynn did DOLO and then
- 26:35Speaker 5: when we turned it in, when he turned it into
- 26:37Speaker 5: J and them, that's when they gave him the a Yo, hey,
- 26:39Speaker 5: that's what you did, and you on and the rest
- 26:42Speaker 5: is history.
- 26:42Speaker 4: Yeah, but he even did more than that. Like you said,
- 26:44Speaker 4: he was street Team at one time. He was the
- 26:45Speaker 4: one dealer with the DJs he was doing. He's the
- 26:48Speaker 4: one that brought me to them to do the Rockefeller
- 26:50Speaker 4: mixtapes and all the mixtapes all the time.
- 26:51Speaker 1: I know that he's the one that brought them to me.
- 26:54Speaker 4: Well, Clu didn't want to do it because Clu didn't
- 26:55Speaker 4: want to He was like, I don't want to get
- 26:56Speaker 4: in the beef.
- 26:57Speaker 1: But he brought me in there to do the mixtapes.
- 26:59Speaker 3: Like we used to.
- 27:00Speaker 4: We used to hang out in Lenny's office, Lenny and
- 27:02Speaker 4: g that had office together, and we would just sit
- 27:04Speaker 4: there all day long, from sun up to sundown g Robison.
- 27:08Speaker 4: But the amount of people that would pass by, like
- 27:10Speaker 4: you would see Hole in the office all the time.
- 27:13Speaker 4: So if you see Bigs all the time, you see
- 27:14Speaker 4: Dame all the time, all the artists all the time.
- 27:16Speaker 4: So that's how you would get your drops, you'd get
- 27:18Speaker 4: your records and all that other stuff.
- 27:19Speaker 1: But Lenny was the one that did that.
- 27:21Speaker 6: Where did y'all tell?
- 27:21Speaker 7: I just feel like, I don't there's no where I
- 27:23Speaker 7: can think of where like you would go? You feel
- 27:25Speaker 7: that like my friends that work at labels, they don't
- 27:27Speaker 7: have this, Like it's like a family, you watching people
- 27:29Speaker 7: grow up before you, like.
- 27:32Speaker 3: Not the coat, but let me put it to you like this.
- 27:35Speaker 4: They had offices over here on one side. Then when
- 27:38Speaker 4: the death Gen building, IRV had offices on this time.
- 27:41Speaker 4: And IRV would play music all day long. DMX album
- 27:45Speaker 4: all day long before it came out, met them.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Everything it was just you just felt hip hop.
- 27:49Speaker 4: Well it just felt better, Like you know how you
- 27:50Speaker 4: go to radio stations and it's quiet, loud noise music,
- 27:54Speaker 4: people yelling, screaming like you wanted to be.
- 27:56Speaker 3: A part of it.
- 27:57Speaker 7: Do y'all feel like, because you know, labels are so
- 27:59Speaker 7: like AA driven now, like could we get back to that?
- 28:02Speaker 7: Like could a real culture driven hip hop label solely
- 28:06Speaker 7: just do what they love to do and like actually
- 28:08Speaker 7: be big and success. On twenty twenty six, and get
- 28:10Speaker 7: the support, like get the money, the marketing dollars and
- 28:12Speaker 7: all that.
- 28:12Speaker 3: I believe the wheel has never been reinvented.
- 28:15Speaker 5: I just believe they just trying to change it and
- 28:17Speaker 5: put the wheel on a different car. But I believe
- 28:20Speaker 5: if any artists want to get like it was back then,
- 28:23Speaker 5: all you gotta do is grassroot grass root promotion.
- 28:28Speaker 3: Really go outside and touch the people.
- 28:30Speaker 5: Like I feel like these artists now is like life
- 28:33Speaker 5: behind glasses, almost like Amsterdam chicks. It's like you can
- 28:36Speaker 5: see them, but you ain't touching them. You gotta pay
- 28:39Speaker 5: a fee they even shake a hand.
- 28:40Speaker 3: It's like like.
- 28:43Speaker 5: These dudes over here like thing they charge now for
- 28:45Speaker 5: meet and Greece. That's insane. Imagine we did that back
- 28:48Speaker 5: in the day. We'd have been up.
- 28:52Speaker 3: Think about that.
- 28:52Speaker 4: But also, like you talk about the culture, right, I'm
- 28:55Speaker 4: thinking now, like we would leave the label everybody at
- 28:58Speaker 4: let's say five o'clock, and we would everybody in the
- 29:01Speaker 4: industry would go to one spot. Then after that one
- 29:04Speaker 4: spot that everybody would go to one club then everywhere.
- 29:06Speaker 4: It was just like a movement. It was just all
- 29:09Speaker 4: day long. You like you lived it for every day.
- 29:11Speaker 4: You knew exactly where to be. You knew where the
- 29:13Speaker 4: vibe was, you knew where the DJs was, you knew
- 29:15Speaker 4: where all the artists hung out.
- 29:17Speaker 3: Like today is.
- 29:18Speaker 5: I love it that it's spread out in different cities
- 29:20Speaker 5: because it was mainly New York. Go to New York,
- 29:23Speaker 5: everything was here. Now you go to Miami, Atlanta, fucking Memphis,
- 29:27Speaker 5: you go to fucking Houston.
- 29:30Speaker 3: Is the vibe is everywhere, but it's just mixed up.
- 29:33Speaker 3: It's not together.
- 29:34Speaker 4: Yeah, but everybody kid like you would see jay Z
- 29:37Speaker 4: in a club, of course, like you.
- 29:39Speaker 1: It wouldn't be like he would be in the club
- 29:40Speaker 1: at the ball in.
- 29:41Speaker 4: The section just before sections were really big, but he
- 29:43Speaker 4: would be at the club. You would see Dinny at
- 29:46Speaker 4: a club. You would see Gez at a club. I
- 29:48Speaker 4: just don't think you see that man. No, because these
- 29:50Speaker 4: kids scared to go outside.
- 29:52Speaker 5: You see them on the stream, that's where you see them,
- 29:54Speaker 5: and then you pay to go get that picture next
- 29:57Speaker 5: to them. They not just coming outside mingling with the
- 30:00Speaker 5: everyday folk and being a mongst of the pair their
- 30:03Speaker 5: peers or their fans. They I don't know if it's
- 30:07Speaker 5: a fear tactic or they just think they're bigger than
- 30:09Speaker 5: the program.
- 30:10Speaker 2: Now that's real. And when you're on social media and
- 30:12Speaker 2: the scream, you think you're talking to probably more people
- 30:15Speaker 2: than you really are, because you don't really feel it
- 30:17Speaker 2: until you actually go outside and shake hands and say
- 30:20Speaker 2: what's up to folks? Like that's why I did the
- 30:22Speaker 2: floor last night because I was list the first three nights.
- 30:24Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna go to the floor and don't
- 30:25Speaker 2: want to really feel the energy.
- 30:26Speaker 5: Of exactly, Like that's how you know you can really
- 30:29Speaker 5: check the temperature, man, because analytics. Then I feel like
- 30:32Speaker 5: it ruined sports and ruin music and rude and everything
- 30:34Speaker 5: because people just look at the number and think that's
- 30:36Speaker 5: what it is. They don't know what went into that number.
- 30:39Speaker 5: And it's more than that, man, Like you have to
- 30:42Speaker 5: go outside. They want hip hop to live in the culture,
- 30:45Speaker 5: to breathe and bring that vibe back.
- 30:47Speaker 3: All you gotta do is go outside.
- 30:48Speaker 4: But what do you think your biggest record was mine?
- 30:52Speaker 2: Right?
- 30:52Speaker 5: Nah?
- 30:53Speaker 1: That's a Chicks your biggest record like that?
- 30:57Speaker 3: Like that it's the biggest record, yeap. That should play everywhere.
- 31:00Speaker 5: Bro, I go to any country, Africa to Finland, that
- 31:04Speaker 5: shit is on the radio or in the club.
- 31:07Speaker 2: Wow.
- 31:07Speaker 5: And then another sleeper record. That's like mind blowing to
- 31:11Speaker 5: me when I travel is infatuated like mad people be like, yo,
- 31:16Speaker 5: I love. In fact, if you look at my top
- 31:17Speaker 5: three streaming on Spotify and Infatuators number three, and we
- 31:20Speaker 5: never shot a video like damn, we dropped the ball
- 31:24Speaker 5: on that one.
- 31:24Speaker 1: Were you ever mad at a at J for doing
- 31:27Speaker 1: his verse on my right?
- 31:29Speaker 3: No? No, no, I need more verses, so give me
- 31:31Speaker 3: another one.
- 31:33Speaker 2: Why do you know what I think about that? Because
- 31:35Speaker 2: he did this something I was thinking about that. I
- 31:36Speaker 2: was like, yo, why he used to do that to blee?
- 31:38Speaker 2: Now I asked for this body that your chick just
- 31:41Speaker 2: took that record over.
- 31:42Speaker 5: But he gave it to me like that was his record,
- 31:45Speaker 5: and he gave it to me because he put it
- 31:47Speaker 5: on a project that was released overseas only. And then
- 31:49Speaker 5: he's like, yo, blow bro, i'mna drop it in the US,
- 31:51Speaker 5: fucking put two verses on it. Of course I was,
- 31:54Speaker 5: I'm never gonna murder J. Not back then now I
- 31:57Speaker 5: will back then I got that niggas. No, I'm better now,
- 32:01Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. But back then and now,
- 32:04Speaker 5: like with my right and there summer I bumped my
- 32:08Speaker 5: head with that one.
- 32:09Speaker 3: I thought I.
- 32:10Speaker 5: Was returning the favor of what he did on Handed
- 32:12Speaker 5: Down when they bought his album, you heard me first,
- 32:15Speaker 5: bought my album, you heard him first. But I forget
- 32:17Speaker 5: he's a fucking son. You rested album as a candle.
- 32:20Speaker 5: You're like, yo, this, I just listened to the sun.
- 32:22Speaker 5: Now I gotta listen to a candle.
- 32:24Speaker 2: I'm cool. You think he should do this with his
- 32:26Speaker 2: other albums, what he did this weekend? All right? Blueprint
- 32:29Speaker 2: A reasonable doubt, just that special because it's the first album,
- 32:32Speaker 2: which is the foundation, and then Blueprint was the best album.
- 32:35Speaker 5: He's gonna have to do volume too. That's the album
- 32:39Speaker 5: that changed everything, bro.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Like, why did that album change everything?
- 32:44Speaker 3: With five million?
- 32:47Speaker 2: Three years?
- 32:48Speaker 3: Yeah? I think yeah, came out winning ninety.
- 32:52Speaker 2: Yeah eight wasn't wash your throne.
- 32:54Speaker 7: Just get around certain a certain project or now to
- 32:57Speaker 7: watch your throw tour.
- 32:59Speaker 3: Yeah that was that was just around that two years.
- 33:02Speaker 2: It'll be thirty thirty.
- 33:04Speaker 5: And that's the album that changed everything. Any once that
- 33:07Speaker 5: anti record record, you gotta do that, Gotta do that,
- 33:12Speaker 5: gotta do that. Like I feel like that album Blueprint
- 33:15Speaker 5: and black Album blackut.
- 33:18Speaker 3: He did four four four tour, so you can't. You
- 33:21Speaker 3: know what I mean.
- 33:22Speaker 2: He gotta do hard knock life in two years. You
- 33:24Speaker 2: gotta do that.
- 33:26Speaker 3: You got to Volume two is the album that made
- 33:29Speaker 3: jay Z a.
- 33:30Speaker 2: Pop yea so five million?
- 33:32Speaker 5: No, you're right, that was the one that changed everything, bro,
- 33:36Speaker 5: Like shiit we was in there, you know, and was
- 33:38Speaker 5: making gift baskets, sending them ships to dj Is, trying
- 33:41Speaker 5: to get spins.
- 33:42Speaker 7: This is so crazy to imagine, Like I can't imagine
- 33:45Speaker 7: jay Z not as jay Z like how he is
- 33:48Speaker 7: right now.
- 33:49Speaker 3: Ship you'd have seen him at that car Washaw Murder Avenue.
- 33:52Speaker 3: You wouldn't know. He wasn't who he is. But that's crazy.
- 33:55Speaker 4: He used to be like you would see whole outside
- 33:57Speaker 4: but it wasn't the security was him and the time,
- 34:00Speaker 4: and he would be outside in the club or you
- 34:02Speaker 4: see with a bunch of chicks. He was outside like
- 34:04Speaker 4: it wasn't like this now, like you can't see your
- 34:07Speaker 4: favorite doss. He was outside. You see him on the corner.
- 34:09Speaker 4: You would see him eating, like he talked to you.
- 34:12Speaker 4: This before people had cameras, so people had autographs.
- 34:15Speaker 1: It was he was outside. It was a whole different time.
- 34:17Speaker 5: And then today it's whack they make outside whack because
- 34:20Speaker 5: you try to have a conversation with a person and.
- 34:22Speaker 3: They like this. Yo.
- 34:24Speaker 5: I was in the elevator, just standing there, coming downstairs,
- 34:28Speaker 5: and the girl in the elevator like this, And I said, man,
- 34:30Speaker 5: you're gonna really try to sneak tape me when you
- 34:32Speaker 5: can just ask for a picture, like now, if I
- 34:35Speaker 5: take the camera and break it, I'm wrong, but you're
- 34:38Speaker 5: not wrong for just holding the camera up in my face.
- 34:41Speaker 5: And she thought about it was like, Yo, you know what,
- 34:42Speaker 5: You're right. I wouldn't want nobody to do that to me.
- 34:44Speaker 5: Then asks for a picture, so it was like that's
- 34:48Speaker 5: more respectable. But I think today with these phones, these
- 34:52Speaker 5: everybody think they hurrahed though.
- 34:53Speaker 3: Man, they want the school.
- 34:55Speaker 5: There's a bunch of hurrah those and they see but
- 34:58Speaker 5: you know what, they don't remember Ral though got.
- 35:00Speaker 3: Punched in the fence.
- 35:02Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't see that one.
- 35:08Speaker 2: Right, that's real. When Yale was up here with Yale,
- 35:12Speaker 2: Yale's thing was.
- 35:14Speaker 6: He saying that Jaz don't help nobody.
- 35:15Speaker 2: Jaz don't help nobody.
- 35:18Speaker 5: I'm going to say four one K records nigga call
- 35:22Speaker 5: holding down, hold me drop some heat. Niggas ain't paying
- 35:25Speaker 5: your bills, because that's what it is.
- 35:29Speaker 3: Niggas can't compete. That's why they talk like that.
- 35:32Speaker 5: You if fifty said one year, these niggas are being
- 35:37Speaker 5: a shelter. They shouldn't be allowed to talk about us
- 35:41Speaker 5: or anybody when you literally are a dependent. Hey, that
- 35:48Speaker 5: shit is insane to me. Man, Like niggas came away
- 35:50Speaker 5: they jewey without their boss. Show me a picture of Yeah,
- 35:54Speaker 5: you're walking around with his chain, the passport chain without
- 35:58Speaker 5: fifty cent there, mm hmm, I gotta see it. But
- 36:05Speaker 5: niggas ain't taking care of niggas. You got there right there,
- 36:07Speaker 5: and we take care of ourself.
- 36:08Speaker 2: I think I heard Yo say that you and which
- 36:11Speaker 2: is crazy? You say you and Jay's friendship is just
- 36:13Speaker 2: more with more business. I've never seen it.
- 36:16Speaker 3: Well him in fifty friendship is just finance.
- 36:18Speaker 8: You yeah for yeah morey going back and forth each
- 36:25Speaker 8: other sounds crazy, But I'm just saying this, like, Yo,
- 36:28Speaker 8: what you you want me to be?
- 36:29Speaker 2: Yo?
- 36:29Speaker 3: Jay, look out for me. I drop bombs.
- 36:33Speaker 5: We got a new song out right now right no
- 36:35Speaker 5: more produced by Cooling Drag Moving.
- 36:38Speaker 3: We're the last yeah Yo record.
- 36:42Speaker 5: I don't know he's a dependent you. Of course he
- 36:46Speaker 5: viewed life through look out for me. I never looked
- 36:50Speaker 5: at Come on, Jay raised bosses man, He don't raise dependence.
- 36:54Speaker 3: We all bosses business owners. Lord.
- 36:56Speaker 5: I got a bar in the restaurant in Vegas. Tell
- 36:58Speaker 5: him pull up and come eat everything free on me.
- 37:01Speaker 6: He liked to travel when he was here, he said,
- 37:03Speaker 6: they go talk.
- 37:04Speaker 3: He got all that flash.
- 37:05Speaker 5: They asked cargo all that the bill is covered. We
- 37:09Speaker 5: feed people on this side too, was cover.
- 37:14Speaker 2: He said? He said. Jay Z doesn't support man bleak
- 37:16Speaker 2: the way fifty cent looks out for him.
- 37:17Speaker 5: That was, But how where's his records? Where's his businesses?
- 37:22Speaker 5: Where's his hot? Do he even have a hot?
- 37:24Speaker 3: Wait? Let me ask a question. He does do this?
- 37:26Speaker 3: Nigga have children? I don't know because when do he travel?
- 37:30Speaker 3: Where his fim do he do? When his family time?
- 37:33Speaker 5: When he hit his fifty cent sh and jay Z
- 37:35Speaker 5: ship my wife Rayah, we just came from Paris rocking
- 37:39Speaker 5: the shot. Told my daughter was in there was in
- 37:41Speaker 5: the room, Leonardo da Vinci Bill, you know what I'm saying, Hey,
- 37:46Speaker 5: my son just was at night. One reasonable doubt. Where's
- 37:49Speaker 5: these niggas kids? And you talking about somebody taking care
- 37:51Speaker 5: of you? Who are you taking care of man? Like? Yo,
- 37:57Speaker 5: we fucking fifty and you still want niggas to take
- 37:59Speaker 5: care of you.
- 38:00Speaker 3: Is insane to me and the fans online think this
- 38:04Speaker 3: is right? Ar you in it? Yeah, Jay, don't look
- 38:07Speaker 3: out for Bleak. He's not supposed to. I have a job.
- 38:12Speaker 3: I get paid. Well, how do you get a check
- 38:16Speaker 3: and say, yo, I need a check?
- 38:18Speaker 2: But tell him your job though I'm a boss, I know,
- 38:21Speaker 2: but I mean you got a bunch of them job
- 38:23Speaker 2: we do wrap.
- 38:25Speaker 5: I have four gold albums, by the way, four all
- 38:29Speaker 5: gold hanging up plaques, successful albums.
- 38:32Speaker 3: I have two business, two restaurants.
- 38:35Speaker 5: I have a label that was successful, Warehouse shout out
- 38:39Speaker 5: casting over free cast Free, my nigga tax Stone.
- 38:42Speaker 3: We made moves, you know what I mean?
- 38:43Speaker 5: We did what we did do say moving crazy min
- 38:49Speaker 5: right exotics in stores, crazy rock, solid pop, shout out
- 38:54Speaker 5: hot tolerance in the streets, crazy.
- 38:57Speaker 2: Wait Yo, solid podcast.
- 39:01Speaker 3: Ain't bring that up. I wanted you to say that.
- 39:06Speaker 5: On Black Effect, our hard drink champs. Like what more
- 39:11Speaker 5: niggas want me to do? I know what I'm gonna do.
- 39:13Speaker 5: I'm gonna start a daycare center for senior citizens rappers,
- 39:18Speaker 5: since they want to be dependent and want people to
- 39:20Speaker 5: look out for them. The only thing they gotta let
- 39:22Speaker 5: me put life insurance on them so if they.
- 39:25Speaker 4: Die, we cash it down. Get your money straight up
- 39:29Speaker 4: before youve don't you know? I wanted to ask, how
- 39:32Speaker 4: do you how did you Beanie? Well, first two questions,
- 39:36Speaker 4: how did y'all squash the whole Beanie state property thing?
- 39:39Speaker 1: And the second question, if Jay has beef?
- 39:41Speaker 3: Do you have beef? No?
- 39:42Speaker 5: Because if I got your beef, I heat that it
- 39:47Speaker 5: the beef without no, butnins ain't telling me nothing.
- 39:50Speaker 3: I ain't agree to that now. I wanted that beef
- 39:52Speaker 3: to keep going. Nah.
- 39:55Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is at the show when they
- 39:57Speaker 5: came out with the army fatigue, ain't no naves with there.
- 40:01Speaker 3: That was the major setup, bro, Bro.
- 40:03Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was called the Undeclared War Concert.
- 40:05Speaker 3: And then we dabted the beef.
- 40:08Speaker 2: You didn't.
- 40:09Speaker 3: This is why the blog is getting at us. You
- 40:12Speaker 3: just you just answered it.
- 40:13Speaker 5: We declared war and then dabted the drama and they
- 40:15Speaker 5: was like, oh, they they're.
- 40:16Speaker 3: Vulnerable, let's get them.
- 40:18Speaker 2: Nah.
- 40:19Speaker 3: But yeah, Nah.
- 40:20Speaker 4: The reason I asked, so you know We see Dame
- 40:22Speaker 4: taking shots at at Jay all the time.
- 40:24Speaker 1: Right, do you still say you know what? I don't care.
- 40:26Speaker 1: I'm gonna put them on my podcast.
- 40:27Speaker 3: We chop it up. Hell No, I can't do that.
- 40:30Speaker 5: You just said his beef is his be but no,
- 40:35Speaker 5: but that's a different type of beef. That's not beef.
- 40:38Speaker 5: That's that's that's heardaching pain. That's pain there. That's not beef. Bro,
- 40:46Speaker 5: that's that's we were only they can fix that. I
- 40:50Speaker 5: was the little bro and I'm a state of little
- 40:52Speaker 5: bro in that situation. I'm not gonna overstep my boundaries
- 40:56Speaker 5: and try to be something in that situation. I can't
- 40:58Speaker 5: and wasn't. So with that, I leave alone. Everybody else
- 41:03Speaker 5: walk track lightly.
- 41:04Speaker 3: Man. We don't ignore everything.
- 41:06Speaker 5: Man, It's some things is okay, but when we see
- 41:10Speaker 5: you have that energy.
- 41:11Speaker 3: But that's the problem. We don't see these guys.
- 41:14Speaker 5: And last time I seen ya Yo, we was in
- 41:17Speaker 5: la Aigga was nervous for me wearing my jury.
- 41:21Speaker 3: But Jay don't look out for me. I ain't even Yo.
- 41:24Speaker 5: Certain things I don't bring up I don't talk about
- 41:27Speaker 5: because they personal conversations.
- 41:29Speaker 3: But he no in his heart looking me and my eye.
- 41:36Speaker 2: He no, He said he was nervous for you wearing
- 41:38Speaker 2: your jewelry.
- 41:39Speaker 5: Yeah, he told me I was bugging in La. Nigga said, Yo,
- 41:41Speaker 5: you got on the chain in La. You bugging tur Nigga?
- 41:44Speaker 5: What I war my chain everywhere? Fuck as you talking me?
- 41:47Speaker 5: I don't care if I was in the coffin, My
- 41:49Speaker 5: jewelry gonna be on me. Nigga Like, Nigga said, nah,
- 41:52Speaker 5: your name is Jury, yo, Yo, how these new niggas
- 41:55Speaker 5: gonna know we get money if we ain't gonna show
- 41:57Speaker 5: them no new drip, they don't win that old ship.
- 42:01Speaker 5: He was like, yeah, right, See he needed he couldn't
- 42:05Speaker 5: wear his chain.
- 42:06Speaker 2: But that's kind of some nigga ship though, because you
- 42:08Speaker 2: got all these businesses. Right. So I get what he's
- 42:10Speaker 2: saying when he said, your name.
- 42:12Speaker 5: Is Nah Memphis Bleek, ain't no money. Nigga said, I
- 42:14Speaker 5: was the whackst nigga on Rocket Flower.
- 42:17Speaker 3: Fuck out of here. They gonna see this big.
- 42:20Speaker 2: They't gonna see this big dramber nobody saying he was
- 42:22Speaker 2: the wackest person.
- 42:23Speaker 3: I heard it a few times.
- 42:28Speaker 5: What is it, ex Twitterga. The niggas we talked ship
- 42:32Speaker 5: cup they cuz and blood and blood cuz.
- 42:37Speaker 1: And how did y'all us say property?
- 42:39Speaker 3: How did that?
- 42:39Speaker 5: How did that squash? Because because those my dogs, they
- 42:42Speaker 5: better stopped playing with me. Niggas get on this net
- 42:45Speaker 5: and act like we family, we grew up together. I'm
- 42:48Speaker 5: never gonna let these niggas act like we not bros.
- 42:52Speaker 5: I'm not gonna talk to you through YouTube. I'm not
- 42:55Speaker 5: gonna talk to you through ax or Instagram. Not when
- 42:58Speaker 5: my wife is from Philly. I'm in Philly everythanks Giving,
- 43:01Speaker 5: every It's impossible where you at, what block you on?
- 43:06Speaker 3: I'm pulling up. So that's how that happened.
- 43:09Speaker 5: Me and Beans brother shout out, brother news, that's my dog,
- 43:12Speaker 5: one of the realists from Philly, stand up man that
- 43:15Speaker 5: he don't play man, and that's my brother. And once
- 43:18Speaker 5: I reach out to him, everything else is you know,
- 43:22Speaker 5: it's taken care of.
- 43:23Speaker 6: I say, you're on boardroom saying that you told them
- 43:24Speaker 6: y'all should get in the studio together.
- 43:28Speaker 3: And that's five beats. We ain't get no versus yet.
- 43:30Speaker 2: That's crazy.
- 43:31Speaker 5: These Freeway and Beef and Beans might have beef with me,
- 43:35Speaker 5: They're gonna be mad after that.
- 43:36Speaker 3: They could be told the niggas. W Yes, I told
- 43:39Speaker 3: the niggas.
- 43:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like after the Roofs Picnic there was
- 43:43Speaker 2: a lot of momentum.
- 43:46Speaker 6: Yes, I thought that. I thought we're gonna get a
- 43:48Speaker 6: little bit of that niggas.
- 43:49Speaker 5: Yo, loo bro, we got to drive when the next time,
- 43:52Speaker 5: Big Homie going give us this look. That's why after
- 43:55Speaker 5: we ain't do nothing. Then New York, it was like, oh,
- 43:58Speaker 5: I only touched the stage Friday myself. Saturday, we dropping
- 44:02Speaker 5: something like I had to because, like I said, this
- 44:05Speaker 5: window opportunity.
- 44:08Speaker 3: Yeah, we we wait for it.
- 44:10Speaker 5: Man, like when you're gonna get this pitch, This is
- 44:13Speaker 5: like the perfect pitch, the battery bonds. If you don't
- 44:16Speaker 5: take that swing, you can't blame nobody. It's the only buddy,
- 44:20Speaker 5: it's only your fault.
- 44:21Speaker 2: I was thinking about it this weekend. I'm like, yo,
- 44:23Speaker 2: this might be the last time we seen him this.
- 44:25Speaker 3: That's a fast Jay's what fifty six fifty six?
- 44:28Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You don't know how long
- 44:30Speaker 2: he might want to do it. He's richie, he may
- 44:32Speaker 2: not want to. This is thirty anniversary of Reason with
- 44:34Speaker 2: about twenty five or blueprint. Who knows when he's coming back.
- 44:37Speaker 3: Out there, so I'm saying like he might not.
- 44:39Speaker 5: That's why I was trying to tell people this might
- 44:41Speaker 5: be the last hurrah Man.
- 44:43Speaker 6: I felt like that.
- 44:43Speaker 7: When I saw y'all roots Picnic, though, I was like,
- 44:45Speaker 7: how do we know we're gonna get this again? All
- 44:47Speaker 7: of y'all with jay Z in the party that it
- 44:49Speaker 7: was like.
- 44:49Speaker 5: Shout out rock solid podcast, you know what I mean,
- 44:54Speaker 5: making them bridges get cross because they.
- 44:56Speaker 3: Don't want to get ain't gonna never give me my props.
- 44:59Speaker 5: But I know, be watching the pard like little homie
- 45:03Speaker 5: holding let me higher at the broke.
- 45:05Speaker 3: Come on dog. He ain't gonna say you're beating Yeah, man,
- 45:09Speaker 3: you broke them niggas up. It's because of you. I
- 45:11Speaker 3: never go get that.
- 45:12Speaker 5: But the world no, because I meet I want to
- 45:16Speaker 5: sit down with anybody that I felt like we had
- 45:19Speaker 5: issues that wasn't about nothing, because think about it, bro right,
- 45:22Speaker 5: I'm from Marsie. That's let's just put rap of the game.
- 45:25Speaker 5: He from Calmton. I'm from Marsie.
- 45:29Speaker 3: I don't know that man. He never fucked no girl.
- 45:32Speaker 3: I know.
- 45:32Speaker 5: I never took no money from him. He never kicked
- 45:35Speaker 5: my dog. I ain't rufous cat like so how can
- 45:41Speaker 5: our problems be real?
- 45:42Speaker 3: Right?
- 45:42Speaker 5: You know what It's like, it's just music competitive bullshit.
- 45:46Speaker 5: So that's one artist. I want to sit face to
- 45:49Speaker 5: face and just know yo fan heo, dog why you
- 45:52Speaker 5: shit on me?
- 45:53Speaker 2: Dog Gang?
- 45:56Speaker 5: But that's the man conversation on and that's what rock
- 45:59Speaker 5: Solid is about, was letting the culture know.
- 46:02Speaker 3: Man, it's bigger than that. Bro. We hear. Everybody picked
- 46:05Speaker 3: up the.
- 46:05Speaker 5: Pen at the same time with one goal, change your life,
- 46:09Speaker 5: and that's all we did.
- 46:10Speaker 3: We all accomplished that.
- 46:11Speaker 5: So I never felt anything would be for anybody in
- 46:14Speaker 5: the industry was any bigger than that. So I sit
- 46:17Speaker 5: down with any of these guys just not dam how do.
- 46:21Speaker 2: You like I be feeling like you don't even need
- 46:23Speaker 2: guess can just be in there cleaning up shit every
- 46:26Speaker 2: week because every week is some bullshit being said about.
- 46:29Speaker 5: I know, I'm about to make that pivot, that that
- 46:34Speaker 5: you turn, I'm about to get off exit. Don't worry,
- 46:36Speaker 5: it's about to happen because it's too much shit. It's
- 46:40Speaker 5: too much. But then I don't want to feel like.
- 46:44Speaker 2: I'm the.
- 46:46Speaker 3: Rock Nation protector, like like people.
- 46:48Speaker 6: Can't Charlemagne is just that's what they think.
- 46:52Speaker 5: No Charlamagnet shoot that everybody, but I ain't know he
- 46:55Speaker 5: was down with. I was supposed to have extra spins.
- 46:58Speaker 5: I should have got some time, get like.
- 47:00Speaker 3: A feature a week right the bleek week?
- 47:03Speaker 5: What future if he was I ain't know, It's like shit,
- 47:07Speaker 5: what that's like finding out the person you going to school?
- 47:11Speaker 3: Is also the principle.
- 47:12Speaker 5: It's like, nagga, you see what I'm saying, Like you
- 47:15Speaker 5: ain't let me cut you hang it with You ain't
- 47:19Speaker 5: just push my graves through for me like I'm a.
- 47:23Speaker 2: Rock Nation double leasion with nobody at rock Nation.
- 47:25Speaker 3: Know what sense does that make?
- 47:27Speaker 5: Yo?
- 47:27Speaker 3: When I found out, I was like, this can't be true.
- 47:31Speaker 5: Going in the office last thirty years, ain't no fucking
- 47:34Speaker 5: way where Charlemagne off side and asks Lenny.
- 47:38Speaker 3: Yo, it's a silvil opposite here. Let's get it.
- 47:43Speaker 4: Let's get into the record off the album, well, the
- 47:45Speaker 4: record that you just put out this weekend.
- 47:46Speaker 5: Definitely let's get into this joint called No Moub because
- 47:50Speaker 5: that's what it is this year. We ain't toleranting no
- 47:52Speaker 5: mo bs. We get into that bag. This that new
- 47:56Speaker 5: single produced by Cooling Dre and it's coming off that
- 47:59Speaker 5: new project we drop it.
- 48:00Speaker 3: Call all Money and good money real soon. Check it out, y'all.
- 48:05Speaker 1: No mo Is Memphis Blake. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
- 48:10Speaker 1: Hold up every day I wake up The Breakfast Club.
- 48:14Speaker 3: You finish for y'all done,