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The Fever Report with John Robertson & Michelle Garmon: John's Always Right! (2.291.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: You are listening to the fever report with John Robertson and Michelle Garmin, every Sunday on the Central Indian Esports Report.
• 0:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome fever fans to the Central Indian Esports Report for this week's fever report with John Robertson and Michelle Garmin.
• 0:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just moments ago, the fever
• 0:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: finished off there 11.87 win over the LA sparks and I don't think that's at all what we're here to talk about this week guys.
• 0:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Last week we had a podcast, John had some things to say about the WNBA and the way it's a fishing edit oyster and the way it's been officiated and this week it came to a boiling point.
• 0:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think the most important thing we can say Greg is I've yet to be wrong.
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I told you I said I don't I don't talk about officiating less.
• 1:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's really a problem and I think it's been proven this week that it's really a problem.
• 1:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of different if there's so much going on with that.
• 1:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we have to address a couple of different facets of it.
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was at the game.
• 1:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: on Wednesday with my mom and we watched AT Stomp on Caitlyn Clark and we saw the close outfowl and my mom who rarely watches basketball, right?
• 1:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to sit here and pretend she's a basketball knowledge.
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: or a wealth of basketball, not she's watched high school basketball or a whole life and that's pretty much it.
• 1:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: She said it is so blatantly obvious that the officials are calling this game completely differently on either side of the core.
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, welcome to the WMBA.
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then when Caitlin went out, we were all, we didn't really get to see the extent of it until later.
• 2:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then the video, it just looked horrible.
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: which is exploded into the zeitgeist of American culture right now.
• 2:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: We can talk about that in a second.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's first of all, talk about just what we think about the fouls and the calling.
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And do you think it's as bad as society's making it right now?
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Jail, I'm gonna say this.
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the officiating is bad and Kittlin has taken some shots.
• 2:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I probably don't watch maybe as many other games as you do that I'll be in because you have the week pass, but I do turn I do tune into the ones that I can get and I've been concerned because to me there have been a lot of elbows and slaps to the faces of some players that are getting in.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's gotten so
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: physical and what's it going to take or where I was to the point, somebody's going to take somebody out and into career at some point whether it's a severe concussion or something else.
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't get it.
• 3:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't get why WMBA thinks that's good for their product.
• 3:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can tell you why I think they think is good for their product, but I think that they are
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: The short side of vision is that's always who's been their fan base in the past is the people who were activists and they want to They care about the political stuff more than they care about the basketball
• 3:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: and Katelyn Clark is kind of in the face of that and the people who let's what's openly say that there are people who use Katelyn Clark in the wrong way to say why is she in the middle of a john it does she hasn't done anything for yourself and I agree I agree Katelyn's always taken the correct stance and tried to stay out of it like I 100% agree that that's true.
• 3:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: But there are, and there are people that are using her as a political pawn, in spite of what she said.
• 4:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's why, but that makes it even stupider that the people who want to be activists and political still don't like Caitlin Clark, because
• 4:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not even her that's doing it.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yes, there's jealousy from lots of other players who see her getting the spotlight.
• 4:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
• 4:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: jealousy is, it's a really, I don't even know how to describe it.
• 4:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a really powerful emotion that can really mess with your head.
• 4:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: But like, if you want to get past that, they all have to get past it.
• 4:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I personally don't see it as a racial issue.
• 4:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I truly don't think that it is.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: really, but I think that there are people on the other side of the political spectrum who want to turn it into a racial issue, because that gets clicks in its intention and helps them with their costs.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we've got these two opposite spectrum political forces that are trying to use a basketball player who just wants to play basketball and everybody else is getting involved in that it's just nonsense.
• 5:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's my rant about it.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: John, you're right about that.
• 5:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you have to feel for Caitlyn Clark because she is getting used by a lot of different people.
• 5:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's even getting used by some polymers and some podcasters who are spouting in her defense, but then are
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: just throwing shots at a fever, coaching staff and even fellow players.
• 5:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's not being for Caitlyn Clark.
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's you get wanting clicks and views and everything else.
• 5:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're not inside.
• 5:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And these are, you know, I just feel I can't imagine.
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like,
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I can't just imagine being in her spot every day.
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's really a good thing that all these people that think that fever don't like each other.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, John, I listened to Sophie's podcast and she says they do like each other.
• 6:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like like each other.
• 6:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so feasible because she's open about, if you listen to her podcast, she's open about the things where they get frustrated with each other.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's open and admits that there's issues that where they struggle and they need to fix them.
• 6:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: So she's not just like towing a line saying, yeah, we get along.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think Sophie is the most genuine honest player you're ever going to get.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, she shoots from the hip and she yet her teammates, but she gets it, athletics.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: It, your team, it's like family, okay?
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I have two siblings, you know, we've grown up.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: We always get along, no, do we start you some to this day?
• 6:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but we love each other and we have each other's backs.
• 6:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that is a team that, that's gonna be the team because they spend so much time together between practice and travel and games that, and I'm sorry, their females,
• 7:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll say it they get through a cycle once a month and those hormones time you live with to no i get like i'm not shy to talk about the female reproductive cycle i'm openly will i can discuss but i'm not going to ever sit here be the one to say these girls get moody but you'll never i will say your cycle can make you moody so there's going to be times like that but they get over you can tell
• 7:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think if they weren't, if they didn't like each other, and inside they did get a long, I don't think the fever would have a winning record right now.
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they would be spiraling.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sophie hit it on the head that they just need a bonding moment, whatever that is.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: A couple years ago, it was a zubilation.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think this A.T. thing causing harm to Caitlin might be might be a galvanizing moment in the history of the fever.
• 7:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 8:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: They just got to find one.
• 8:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: So if you said they have some stuff planned on this upcoming long road trip and maybe that'll be good for them for a little while to get on the road and travel from place to place because it's
• 8:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: on the road when you're catching a flight like after your games and going on to the next place.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's awful, but I want to get to a list of Thomas for a minute.
• 8:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, she took out the fees of color last year and the playoffs.
• 8:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And she has a history of being not so nice.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can almost make the case to what happened.
• 8:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: looks worse in the slow mo and wasn't that bad.
• 8:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can almost make that case.
• 8:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to, but I could almost make that case.
• 8:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: But Elizabeth Thomas has a dream on green level of history for being dirty and injuring people.
• 8:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And her teammates can rally around her and say that we all know that's not who she is as much as they want to, but we've all seen it multiple times Phoenix has a history of injuring players not just a team, but she's a big part of it so I don't feel bad I know that there are people that are going to take it too far and send her a lot of nasty messages and she doesn't deserve probably all of the all of the fire storm that's going to come her way, but she does deserve
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: a longer suspension than she got.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll tell you what, John, you know, also what Sophie said was they didn't see it happen on the floor on the sidelines.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I believe that all these people that said, well, white didn't do anything when it happened.
• 9:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, she's, if you look where she's at when she coaches, she's up the court.
• 9:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: There were players between Sophie said the bench didn't see it.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Might be a good thing, because I think if they'd seen it, actually, had saw what went on.
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: That may have been
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: the first real big time bitch very brawl in a woman's basketball game.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: No I think so you guys know we sit in balcony row one so we're in the very first row of the balcony we're not like court side or anything like that but we're in the building and I like our seats.
• 10:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But we could tell that something happened where ATFel or was on top of Caitlin, we couldn't see the details of it.
• 10:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then we could tell that she was stepping over her multiple times.
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And even now, we were arguing was way too much.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or like that is not chill, that is not okay.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then when we saw the slow move video, when we saw the replay, I was like, oh my gosh, that is horrible.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I, it's understandable that the people didn't see exactly what happened in the moment.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anybody did.
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anybody really saw it or else you're right.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: The reaction would have been a lot.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the ref should have seen it.
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: The ref clearly should have seen it as a best position.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: The trail ref shouldn't have seen it or seen something enough that knows new it needed to be reviewed.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: It needed to be looked at.
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was pretty obvious that game where, and I think Phoenix knows what they were doing, they would run at a player and then fall over on purpose or trip.
• 11:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not even talking like Caitlyn does the whole head bob thing, which I, you can argue that's part of the basketball in 2026.
• 11:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Love Caitlyn don't necessarily love the head bob thing, but I will defend in her specific case.
• 11:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: But when Phoenix was just running at people and falling over and getting the calls and stuff, it was it was absolutely ridiculously like it was lopsided calling all over the place.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So how they didn't call that a foul at all blows my mind.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: How Alia got called for the flaker at for the elbow when the girl ran into her elbow, when the one with angel reset.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: against the leotops and last week, Aliah's got the black eye to prove it and they called that a common foul.
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just consistency.
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want consistency.
• 12:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't mind if the fever loses a game if it's called fairly and evenly does a bother me, but it's clearly not been that way and it's getting dangerous.
• 12:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're right on that again, John, and I give a count.
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: The officials boggled from the first time because they were so intent to make sure that Caitlyn, that was a follow-through that she didn't have a flagrant on when she slept, that they missed, they should have upgraded that close-out bow to a flagrant one because the mercury turned in the locale in a landing.
• 12:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the one that hurt her back, too.
• 12:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it was the other one that hurt her back.
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the one that hurt her back.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think that hurt her back more.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: You remember when she made that move, it was a great move.
• 12:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: She made that three over helm and hit the floor.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: She did lay on the core.
• 12:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I noticed she slightly grimaced then.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the rest of those falls just.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: You could tell that by the time she and give her kudos for taking herself out because she couldn't run.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if you watch her, she got down on the defensive end, she would go to one person, but she couldn't move around and even offensively she's pushing a ball, but she's not pushing it at normal Caitlin speed.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just hope that.
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: this time off in the sixth and the time off they have here this next week a little bit I hope that she can get some treatment on her on her back and that she doesn't miss a lot of time and the problem is she's going to deal with flare-ups all season long if the WNBA doesn't clean up its act.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've spent a lot of time talking about the elephant in the room, right?
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we've covered that one.
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I think the other big story from that game, or for that series of games that we got to talk about is Sophie is now the biggest meme on the planet right now.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes she is.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes.
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I even saw a meme, John, on social media.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you saw it where Marco Rubio invited her to the meme couch.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see that, but I know it was a really cool AI generated mean where he and there's some other female and I'm not sure who she is, but then he and it was it was really cool.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just know that my Twitter feed and it was non-stop, Sophie Cunningham memes from every aspect of things I look at.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of video game Twitter, car Twitter, poker Twitter, basketball Twitter, sport, just whatever.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably politics, but I have politics muted on my, on my feed, so I'm just saying.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was really funny to see, because here's the thing I will say.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we're huge fever fans, and we like the WMBA to agree, but we also love our fever.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like it's not as spread widely and the zeitgeist of culture that we think it is, right?
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it definitely was for a week.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you were, I think I love, I'll go back to that whole,
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: that whole thing there that happened.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I just love it that all Sophie did was grin and she just pointed.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And she just kept, she wasn't going to the water bottle.
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think she was, she was running her mouth as she was pointing.
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Stephanie, Sophie was just pointing and smiling and it was like, I'm not going to, I'm going to not let her have the last word without speaking a word myself.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was hilarious.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: that triggered DeWanna so hard that she was losing her mind over it.
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Sophie was just smiling up pointing.
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now the other the follow up point was maybe even more hilarious.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you saw the follow up point.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: But if you go back and watch after DeWanna misses the free throws and Sophie's walking back down the court, she does a behind her shoulder point.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ed DeWanna and DeWanna was even was mad again.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so glad I was at that game.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am so glad that I attended that game because it was amazing.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought about you when that game where all that was going on and I thought, well, when I saw it because that was the bad thing, I had an internet connection.
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I couldn't get the game.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was following on the CBS Sports app, but so when I finally got on it, I rewound
• 16:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I still didn't miss the last turn over the very last play of the game, but I re-wound it all the way back so I could watch from the start and that.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: then there was another issue and it cut off.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I never saw the final played the turnover.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the thing that we'd talk about the suspension, I don't think one game was enough.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Especially when you consider Caitlyn went out that game.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thomas was not ejected the Mercury win by two.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: If Thomas gets the flagrant two, you get two free throws and she's ejected, the fever probably win that game.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: favorite of the family.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I agree with all that, but I just listen, I haven't kind of bought or not get a technical enough to sheetro for neat sheetland and it drove her knee into Caitlin's shoulder.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can see that on the replays.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that that point we're just re-aching everything that we've already said.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I know, I just, I'm not, like, I'm not a, like, I'm not a boner fan.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: She just drives.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Who is?
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: No one is a boner fan.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, she doesn't.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: No body.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Listen, I just, I do have to say we only have a million years in the center.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: We have two seats for fever games.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we kind of rotate through who goes to them tonight.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: My wife and daughter with.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm telling you, every time I go with my wife, so because Sophie's her favorite player, Sophie gets into some sort of something, because last time my wife and I went, Sophie tackled Jaycey Sheldon.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you guys, pretty.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about this Saturday game.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm mentally preparing, since we talk about social media and their actions, everyone.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm mentally preparing for the fee replay better without Caitlin Clark, rage bait, troll posts that are coming.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because they are coming, folks.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying I agree with that sentiment.
• 18:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying, be prepared.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't feed the trolls.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what's coming to your a feed near you.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the fever did play great, and we need to give them credit for playing great against a Kelsey Plumless Sparks.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: kind of like both teams were kind of like a mass unit.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I will say this, I think this game and playing the sparks tonight with some of their health issues and stuff with plumb being out, Cameron Brink being out.
• 19:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: was a perfect was a great elixir for the fever they played extremely well and it gives them some momentum heading into this break which I think might be good for them for just a reset and before they hit that the road trip I want to say kudos to Tai Harris and nice she's back in Indianapolis or hometown and she comes out nails at how they had a tremendous game her best game as a member of the
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the fact that she played, she did play really well.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to take away from that, but it's going to be her best game just because she was able to get minutes.
• 19:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Those minutes, she's aren't there most of the time, but she made the most of the minutes she got tonight.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: She really did go on and put on a show for the minutes that she had.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: So congratulations to her and well done.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have to wonder if the fever I'm going to have to overcome, maybe not as bad as last year, but some injuries, problems.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've got to wonder if it's going to happen.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's good to see the people who stepped in, step up.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it is and it was and I thought this kind of game was also really good because it gave it gave Ty Harris the minutes that she needed to get, you know, playing in that system.
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it also it didn't the fever didn't have to overplay anybody tonight.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mitchell Boston,
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: kind of him, Lexi, even Raven Johnson, but they didn't have to overplay minutes, which I think is Kudos, two things for that, you know, it saves on the legs a little bit.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing is you possibly could, because it's sparked.
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: weren't a bad player.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Heck, if the worst, the worst hit of the night was handy to Eric with her own team, me and K-O-Wing, Eric, we're in the face, but you know, you never know if you're going to roll an ankle or something like that.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And hey, Bree Hall made the most of her, as a developmental player on the contract, she administered, she made the most of her minutes tonight, too.
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: So Kudos to those two.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we have to shout out that there seem to be a sense of urgency on defense.
• 21:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, it's easier to play defense when Cameron Brink and Kelsey Plum are both not in the line-up.
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: But you can see the sense of urgency to actually go out there to strip shots, to tape and get steals, rebounding with stronger tonight.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can see that they were trying to fix the things that looked like they needed to be fixed.
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's a good sign.
• 21:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: The other good sign is Caitlin looked happy and engaged on the sidelines.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had kind of had a one like started the wonder if maybe mentally she was so frustrated that she was over it, which I thought could be a problem.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So seeing her acting positive was a plus.
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was, who does this favor too for, and Stephanie went for giving her the day off
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: at practice, either because she then, I'm sure the reporters hated it that Caitlin Clark was not at practice, but I think that was, that was just good.
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Give her a couple of days to treat the back, reset mentally without having to be growled relentlessly by some members of the media.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: The only negative I see right now is after last year a significant portion of the fan base is going to be I don't even know where to go with, but they're used to last year when the fever won't really open about whether Caitlyn was playing or not and when she was coming back and all that stuff.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think there's going to be a significant portion of people who were wondering, are we going to go through that again?
• 22:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm hoping it's mild after this long break.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: She comes back healthy.
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Even if it's a few games, I think the fever can hold their own.
• 23:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it could be good again before the people in the comments want to say that I'm glad K-1's out.
• 23:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now what I'm saying, but I do think it could be good for some of the other teams to gel together and not rely on K-1 to pull it together all the time.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think if they start to work on their movement when K-1 is a drawing double teams
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: that could help open up the off as even more once she's back.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll just make the most of what's going on.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Play the best scan and let's after the all-star break.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's come back and just crush.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you're coming out of the break, pretty tough way to start four straight games on the road, starting at Vegas, July 5th.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think a week from today, we'll probably go a little early because of the fourth of July.
• 23:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll get back here together and talk about our expectations for the quote unquote second half of the season.
• 24:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm open for a repeat of 2024 where they started pretty slow and Caitlyn's rookie season, but then after all Star Break, they were hot, hot, hot.
• 24:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm kind of open that we see a mirror of that started kind of rough, but after all Star Break, I'm open that they just come out and start ripping them off when even against tough teams.
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then just pick everybody, no, put them on notice.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you what.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: She won't do it, not unless doctors tell her to do it.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: But if I'm Caitlin Clark, I really seriously think, consider not playing in the All-Star game.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: If the league has so little regard for me and my health, why should I go play in an All-Star game that they're going to relish the fact that there's going to be a lot of people there that I've put a lot of people in the seats?
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think the league, I hear you and I agree with you Michelle, if it were me, I would I would not go to spite them and I think there's more to discuss about that during all-star week about how they changed the rules to the all-star game once Caitlyn and Elia had the top two spots, but she's not, I think she's obligated and she's going to be obligated because of her sponsors like state farm and Nike, you're going to wonder there,
• 25:29
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• 25:30
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• 25:32
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