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Who let the dogs out? · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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  Speaker 2: Sorry, get it, get in, get out, didn't get out?
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  Speaker 2: Get Yeah, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: I'm do you want to go first? I would love
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  Speaker 1: to go for you. I go over to the people's courts.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, judge, I got it right, I got it right.
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  Speaker 1: You got it right. I did say it earlier, but
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  Speaker 1: still you got it right. I was listening, John Robert.
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  Speaker 1: Cadet spelled exactly like Cadet would be spelled. Is suing Ananda.
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  Speaker 1: It's Amanda, but with an INN instead of an mpe
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  Speaker 1: uh for thirty five hundred dollars. Now, this is a
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  Speaker 1: little bit like personal injury court. The breakdown on this
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  Speaker 1: is one thousand dollars for the lost a lost dog,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand for paint and suffering, and then two hundred
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  Speaker 1: for reimbursement for dog sitting, and three hundred four some
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  Speaker 1: Rabi shots. I need to give me that total. I can't.
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  Speaker 1: It's fine, thirty five hundred, Okay, just just know that
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  Speaker 1: we'll get back to Ananda's counter suing for five hundred
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  Speaker 1: dollars for defamation of character and a pet sitting fee.
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  Speaker 1: So both suing for a pet sitting fee. We'll get there, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I promise John Robert. I'm gonna call him jay or
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  Speaker 1: even though I'm sure he would not appreciate that. She
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  Speaker 1: does call him Bobby. In the courtroom. He's very like,
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  Speaker 1: he's very like put together, very like dressed, and like
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  Speaker 1: everything is exactly you can tell he's a very particular
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  Speaker 1: human being. He says. In July, I left the country
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  Speaker 1: to go visit family for two weeks. Uh Ornando was
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  Speaker 1: my dear friend. She's dog set for me before. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna pay someone because I was gonna be
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  Speaker 1: going for two full weeks. That person that service fell through.
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  Speaker 1: Ornanda volunteered and said she would do it, and I
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  Speaker 1: said I would pay her. I did say I would
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  Speaker 1: pay her because she's gonna dog sit for me for
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  Speaker 1: two full weeks. How do they know each other again,
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  Speaker 1: They're just dear friends. Okay, that's it. We never agreed
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  Speaker 1: on a price. You need to know that upfront. So
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  Speaker 1: then I got back from vacation. I called her to
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  Speaker 1: let her know I was back in town and I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to get my dogs. A few minutes later, she
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  Speaker 1: called me and said Coco had run away. Coco was gone.
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  Speaker 1: She said she was loading up her car.
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  Speaker 2: But she gets just called right before she was about
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  Speaker 2: to get home, like she's on her way.
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  Speaker 1: He comes and then gets a call from her. He
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  Speaker 1: calls her and says, I'm back. Yeah, I would like
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  Speaker 1: my dogs. She's gonna bring him over. We'll get to why.
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  Speaker 1: That's the case in a second, and he has two dogs.
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  Speaker 1: She says, Coco's gone suspicious. Co Co ran suspicious. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she said when she was loading up the car to
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  Speaker 1: bring him back, she was putting the leash on Bear,
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  Speaker 1: not Coco, Bear, the other one, and Coco just was gone.
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  Speaker 1: And then she said she was inside the house when
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  Speaker 1: it happened. Her door closes automatically. Her stories just didn't
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  Speaker 1: line up, and so at first she said the door
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  Speaker 1: is open, and then she said she didn't know. Then
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  Speaker 1: she started talking about bunnies. There's a lot of bunnies
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  Speaker 1: in her yard, and Coco likes bunnies, like in her neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what she's talking about. Coco is still missing.
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  Speaker 1: I've not found Coco. She's a toy poodle Pekinese. Oh
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  Speaker 1: that's sad, that's right. Anana's like, well, what happens. Anita's
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  Speaker 1: really sad about this. What happened was unfortunate. I was
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  Speaker 1: working when he called. He called me and said he
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  Speaker 1: just got back into town, but the guy he lives
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  Speaker 1: with needed the vehicle, and so he didn't have a
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  Speaker 1: way to come over and get the dogs, and so
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  Speaker 1: I was interesting. I called my boyfriend who lives with me,
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  Speaker 1: and he's in the courtroom and said, get Coco and
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  Speaker 1: Bear stuff together. When I get home, I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 1: you and them in the car because I gotta take
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  Speaker 1: you to work. I'll drop the dogs off. It's on
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  Speaker 1: the way, same route, okay. I go in the house.
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  Speaker 1: Both dogs are there. They're very excited to see me.
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  Speaker 1: I clip Bear. I turn around, and I'm calling for Coco.
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  Speaker 1: She's nowhere to be found. I go to the front door.
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  Speaker 1: Front doors open. My boyfriend, who walked outside to go
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  Speaker 1: to the car. He's in the front yard. He says, Coco.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see her. Coco's not out here. I have
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  Speaker 1: a four bedroom house, two stories. I am need to
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  Speaker 1: start going upstairs. Coco likets running down the stairs. I
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  Speaker 1: look there, I look everywhere. We don't see her.
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  Speaker 2: I feels like it's a slightly different story though, than
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  Speaker 2: what correct what JR.
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  Speaker 1: Said. Yes, she told him, yes, he says. As soon
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  Speaker 1: as we realize Coco's probably outside, we closed the door
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  Speaker 1: to the inside and then I go this way. My
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  Speaker 1: boyfriend goes out with Win meet it start running around
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  Speaker 1: looking for the dog. We're terrified that the dog is missing.
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  Speaker 1: Your honor. I went, I took her to the VET
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  Speaker 1: five days go for her vaccinations. She only weighs seven pounds,
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  Speaker 1: she's tiny. We thought she'd get tired pretty quickly. Million's like,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, you took her to vaccinations like rabies
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. And she goes, yes, ma'am, what a friend,
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  Speaker 1: And she is, why did you do did you did
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  Speaker 1: you know you had to do that when he asked
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  Speaker 1: you to keep him? And she goes, no, he called
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  Speaker 1: me from overseas to say, oh, they've got disappointment, and
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  Speaker 1: I took him amaz amazing, amazing, amazing, above and beyond
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  Speaker 1: also beyond jay R's kind of doing them dirty there,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of stopped. And then JR. Because that's a
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. Yes, And she said JR Did call in
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  Speaker 1: and pay for the vaccinations, but took her for all
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  Speaker 1: the things whatever. And Millions said, don't they microchip the dogs?
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  Speaker 1: And apparently there is a microchip, but uh, Coco didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a collar on with the number, So the only
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  Speaker 1: way the microchip would work is if it went to
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  Speaker 1: a vet. So j R says, there's no collar on,
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  Speaker 1: So if if the dog was taken to a shelter vet.
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  Speaker 1: I would have been contacted. And I think that's why
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  Speaker 1: I think Henanda's maybe have kept it. She's kept a dog.
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  Speaker 1: I think she's kept it. Wait a minute, I did
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  Speaker 1: not see that coming. So a couple of things you're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna see coming here. And Nana's like, you're honor.
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  Speaker 1: I would never do that. We're dear friends. I also
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  Speaker 1: called every animal shelter. I had to give them pictures
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  Speaker 1: from my own phone because JR wouldn't send me any pictures.
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  Speaker 1: And then I then JR said, tell the animal shelters
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  Speaker 1: to call me. He's never gotten in touch with the
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  Speaker 1: animal shelter. He's never looked for his dog, not once.
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  Speaker 1: But also, what's bear chopped? Lever? Like that Bear's not
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  Speaker 1: worthy of that. That's that's fast, it's he's a good boy.
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  Speaker 1: And so Million's like, why didn't you call the animal shelter.
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  Speaker 1: He's like I did. I just didn't reach anybody. And
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  Speaker 1: she's like, did you try to find your dog? He's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I just I tried to keep a cool head.
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  Speaker 1: I I started a new job. There's a graduate course
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  Speaker 1: I'm taking. I'm really busy. I thought Coco would be
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  Speaker 1: found for sure. And then as I kept replaying things,
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  Speaker 1: her story getting that up, and so you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think I think you know something happened.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like Ananda is a lot more torn up
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  Speaker 2: about this very much.
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  Speaker 1: Does Millions like do you think she killed the dog?
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  Speaker 1: And He's like, no, I just think she sold her,
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  Speaker 1: is gonna breed her. Yo, that's a crazy accusation. Emilion's like,
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  Speaker 1: she's taking care of your dogs before for free, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And Anna's like, yes, yeah, I have no problem, and
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  Speaker 1: He's like, She's like, you're not. You're on her. He's
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  Speaker 1: not even trying to find Coco. He hasn't spoken with
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  Speaker 1: the shelters. I paid for flyers to be printed out
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  Speaker 1: of my own pocket with screenshots of the dog that
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  Speaker 1: I have and put them up. He's done nothing. And
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  Speaker 1: then a few weeks after that, we couldn't find the dog.
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  Speaker 1: I went to I was supposed to go to Houston
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  Speaker 1: on a vacation with some of my girlfriends, and I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't going to go. I was still broken up about
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  Speaker 1: the dog. He came over to my house, we cried together.
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  Speaker 1: He told me to go on vacation, said he didn't
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  Speaker 1: blame me at all, and I said, no, I'll stay
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  Speaker 1: here and keep looking. She he said, no, uh, you
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  Speaker 1: need to go, and she's like, you're on her. I
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  Speaker 1: was so scared. I've never been through this in my
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  Speaker 1: whole life. He's the one that insists that I go
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  Speaker 1: to you about that. I was like, yeah, that's all I.
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  Speaker 2: Then at what point between hey, I don't blame you
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  Speaker 2: at all, go on vacation to courtroom does he begin
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  Speaker 2: to believe that she thefted his dog?
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  Speaker 1: So she goes. Then she he sent me two hundred
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  Speaker 1: dollars and said, have fun on your trip. I get
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  Speaker 1: back from my trip and find out I'm being sued
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  Speaker 1: for thirty five hundred dollars and millions, like that's really
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  Speaker 1: weird that you would just turn around and sue her.
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  Speaker 1: And she's he said, well, the two hundred dollars wasn't
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  Speaker 1: to have fun in Texas. That was compensation for watching
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  Speaker 1: the dogs. We didn't agree on amount, but I told
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  Speaker 1: her I'm a man of my word. I told her
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  Speaker 1: I would pay her. I paid her, and then he
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  Speaker 1: says this line, which I still don't understand. I believe
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  Speaker 1: in the universe. I'm a positive person. Do some people
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  Speaker 1: not believe in the universe, like universe is real. That's
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  Speaker 1: not a belief situation like it. We have proof of that.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's a maybe it's a karma thing. I believe.
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  Speaker 1: I think you forgot a line there. I believe the universe.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a positive person, and and millions like so the
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  Speaker 1: two in dollars is the only money that exchanged hands,
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  Speaker 1: and it was given to her for watching the dogs.
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  Speaker 1: And he said yes, and she's like, so, what are
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  Speaker 1: you suing for it? And he goes, I paid one
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars for the dog. Suing for that, I paid
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  Speaker 1: two I paid three hundred dollars for Raby shots that
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  Speaker 1: clearly I'm not gonna the dog's gone. I paid for
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  Speaker 1: the Raby shots. I would like I want that money
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  Speaker 1: back because she's the one that had the dogs during
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  Speaker 1: the Raby shots. I want the two hundred dollars I
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  Speaker 1: paid to her back. Now that I'm thinking about the story,
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  Speaker 1: I think she still has the dog the tune that
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  Speaker 1: I paid. I want it back. And then I want
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  Speaker 1: two thousand dollars for paying and suffering. Total of thirty
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  Speaker 1: five hundred dollars, one thousand for the dog, the other
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  Speaker 1: twenty five hundred for other things. Basically, wow, now and
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  Speaker 1: Anda suing for defamation and basically she's suing for another
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  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars for dog sitting. And Million is floored
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  Speaker 1: by this. She's like, he paid you two hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 1: you lost his dog, and you want one hundred more dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Whose fault is it for losing the dog? And She's like,
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  Speaker 1: it's nobody's fault. It was an accident. I desperately didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to lose the dog. And Million's like, it is
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  Speaker 1: an accident, but like if someone accidentally hits my car,
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  Speaker 1: like there's still a fault there, Like, you can't just
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  Speaker 1: say that. What's the defamation of character about? She's like,
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  Speaker 1: he was calling me the devil in my living room
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  Speaker 1: in front of my friends. I brought him and and
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  Speaker 1: and and Jr. Was like, wait a minute. I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: calling her the devil. What I said, you're honor was
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  Speaker 1: we were all at her house. We were going to
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  Speaker 1: watch a movie. She likes scary darkness. After they lost
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  Speaker 1: a dog, they all got together to watch a movie.
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  Speaker 1: True after after she got back from her trip and
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: found out that she was being sued. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but they all got together one real murky and this
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  Speaker 1: is the best part of this whole case, and it's
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  Speaker 1: the very end. She's gonna rule after this. Jr's like,
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  Speaker 1: let me tell you what happened. We all got together
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  Speaker 1: and we were deciding on a movie to watch, and
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  Speaker 1: she said she liked to watch dark, scary movies. That's
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  Speaker 1: what she likes to do. And I told her I
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  Speaker 1: was positive. I like to watch uplifting things. And then
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  Speaker 1: I said, maybe it's all those dark entities that you
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  Speaker 1: allowed in your house. That's the reason that Coco ran away. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Coco's like seven pounds Pekinese poodles, Like I sent her
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  Speaker 1: some dark ros right in here. There's a demon. That
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  Speaker 1: is the last thing we get to hear. Millions ready
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  Speaker 1: to rule.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's clear that Nanda isn't going to
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  Speaker 2: get any of the countershif.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very clear. Give me that breakdown one more time.
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  Speaker 1: That JR. Soon one thousand for the dog, two thousand
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  Speaker 1: for pain and suffering, two hundred for the money he
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  Speaker 1: gave her to dog, sent three hundred for raby shots,
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  Speaker 1: suing her for the rapie shot, for that whole trip
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  Speaker 1: of the vet. Because and you lost the dog.
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  Speaker 2: So that's crazy I'm gonna give I'm gonna give him
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  Speaker 2: the one thousand dollars for the dog and nothing else.
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  Speaker 1: So is Judge million, you lost the dog, you are
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  Speaker 1: o compensation. The rest of this seems as though she
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  Speaker 1: did the job. So you got you loug at me.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody go yield. Let's head it to Judge Karen.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to be abundantly clear here throughout the
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  Speaker 2: course of this next case, I'm gonna say the word
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: wiener a lot, and every time I say Wiener in
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  Speaker 2: any use of it, I am getting as close to
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  Speaker 2: the quote that is said in the courtroom as I
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  Speaker 2: possibly can. So I'm not trying to do a bit.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not making fun of anything. This is just how
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  Speaker 2: the case is presented in Judge Karen's courtroom. So I
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  Speaker 2: apologize ahead of time. Neil Stein is suing Gary Geller
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  Speaker 2: Gary two thousand, four hundred and twelve dollars in eighteen's
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  Speaker 2: and eighteen This is important stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Neil is a Wiener connoissewer.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, he loves hot dogs of all shapes and size.
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  Speaker 1: Why not say a hot dog connoisseur. That's not what
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  Speaker 1: he says. And I just want to say this, this
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  Speaker 1: is this case sounds funny, but it's not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: played for lefts Like he's serious when Gary is. I
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  Speaker 1: start this case and I'm like, Gary's doing a bit.
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  Speaker 2: The longer that I watched this case, I truly believe
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  Speaker 2: that Gary is a genuine and just kind of an
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: odd duck.
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  Speaker 1: Fourteen two thousand and four whatever. That is over two
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars on a hot dog case A lot of money. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're not messing around here.
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  Speaker 2: He loves hot dogs of all shapes and sizes. I
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  Speaker 2: don't really know what other shapes the hot dogs come in,
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  Speaker 2: but that's.
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  Speaker 1: Neither here or there.
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  Speaker 2: Gary and his brother own a hot dog restaurants.
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  Speaker 1: The kind of like Skins he is in the UPTA.
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  Speaker 1: I think two thousand dollars could buy you a Skins franchise. No,
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  Speaker 1: no way.
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  Speaker 2: Skinned dog Skins is legendary. So I've never been so
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  Speaker 2: really I love a hot dog.
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  Speaker 1: It is like, literally, it is as basic as you
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  Speaker 1: think that restaurant is. It's more basic. I love that
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  Speaker 1: there's you just can order hot dogs, chips, and drinks.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. There's nothing else anything else. There's literally they
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  Speaker 1: have a warmer back there with all the weenies and
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  Speaker 1: and some and and a thing where they're steaming the buns.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's a thing a chili that's just ground beef.
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  Speaker 1: That is it, and it's in a pot. They have
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  Speaker 1: nothing else. They have one stove. It is as basic
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  Speaker 1: a restaurant as you've ever been in your life called Skins.
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  Speaker 1: Do what you want with that.
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  Speaker 2: Neil works out of place that is close to Gary's
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: hot dog establishment, and he would frequent this establishment. He
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: would go multiple times a week for hot dogs. And
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Gary is very proud of his store. He says, they
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: have the best hot dogs in Fresno, and they're respected
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: in the community so great.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: You know, whatever you talk hot dogs, you wonder how
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: they are thought of in the community. Right like Skin
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: like I the Sleepless Nights. How is Skins like reflected
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: in the Yeah?
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: I oddly enough, I do feel like Skins is kind
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: of respected in the community.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: The fact that it's been around for so long. Everybody
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: at least knows of Skins. Which is from ages ten
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: to eighteen, I lived in Lyman, South Carolina, which there
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: was a place in Limon right on the Limon Welford
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: line where you're familiar, I'm sure, called Red Hill Farms,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: and it was a hot dog, a local version of Skins.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: And we thought Skins were a bunch of posers because
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Red Hill Farms was it. And they also serve the
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: best boiled peanuts in the world, and so the still around.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a great one.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: I'm looking it up right with that up, sorry because
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I'm but also try your best to pay attention because
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: this case, Yeah, that's a.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Lot going on here. Judge Karen then looks at Neil
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: and asks if he's wearing a brooch.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: When she is, he is wearing a brooch. He has
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: a brooch kind of like right here. He's got his
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: shirt button all the way up and a brooch is
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: right here. Okay, it's a nice red brooch, he says,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I am wearing a broach. She says, I do you
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: wear brooches often? He says, I do. This is an't
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: important of the case, but I like all sorts of jewelry.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: She says, I like brooches too. It's a nice color,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: it's red.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: It's nice. She says, I don't know if I've ever
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: seen a man wear a broach.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Before, and Neil says, I do a lot of things
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: most men don't.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: So she says, like going to a hot dog stand
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: three days a week, And Neil says, like I said,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I'm a wiener connoisseer.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: He is. She says, okay, continue, he says, yes.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: So for many months I enjoyed Gary's wieners until one
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: day he would not accept this coupon for a free
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: hot dog, and I was told that I was banned
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: from the establishment. What Gary says, We have a loyalty
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: program where customers earn free stuff and you get a
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: free hot dog coupon upon signing up. Neil abused this program.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: He would constantly get different coupons with different emails. Neil says,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I work in the digital realm. I have many email addresses.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I know where you're signing already with this. You are
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: an email making connoisan word. I do make a lot
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: of emails. I think that there is a sweet spot, though,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: but you don't. You would never turn somebody away doing
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: this because you think if they're not breaking the rule,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: then yeah, he would.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: He would use a coupon every time he could go
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: in there three times a week.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Wow, he'd be making three emails a week. So where
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: are you on that? I think that free trial guy,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I think that's going too far. But you would do
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: free trials all year, like every year you do a
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: free trial for Yeah, but I think at when you're
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: talking about a.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Goods like a like a hot dog and you're going
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: in and getting a free hot dog every day at.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Something that like a TV something subscription, that you would
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: get a free trial for every year just to watch
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the holiday season. Yeah, yeah, before before filough you would
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: watch harwork movies and you would never pay.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good and and I wouldn't have I
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have cable any other time of the year, and
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: that's a good.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not three days a week every week.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I just I just think that there's
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: a there's a there's a limit.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: There's a limit to where it starts getting all right ethically, murky,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: and he crossed it, you didn't.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, right, I love it. I love it. I'm glad
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that limit worked. I'm glad it worked out for you
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: right arbitrarily. I'm glad to do it, thank you. So.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Uh, he would constantly get coupons with different emails, and
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: he said the digital realm thing. He has lost of
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: different emails. Judge Karen asked, how many emails you use?
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: He he says, it's hard to say, and he says, can
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: you approximate a number? And he says, I came three
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: days a week and I would bring a coupon every time.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Every time. Gary says he did this for six months.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and they gave him a hot dog
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: every time. Every time, Wow, every time. Neil says, but
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I wasn't just my emails. My coworkers knew that I
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: loved Wieners and would sign me up with their email
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: addresses and then just give me the coupon. Karen asked
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: that says seventy eight emails. Yeah. Please.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: We later find out We later find out that there
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: was a handful of times that coupons weren't used and
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: he actually did purchase okay, hot dog. We'll get to
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: that in a minute. Uh so, Gary says.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Karen asked Gary what happened that made him feel like, hey,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: enough is enough? This guy's abusing the coupon policy. Gary says,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: one day I saw him come in. I saw that
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: he had the coupon, and I just I snapped. Enough
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: was enough, So I came out. I told him that
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to give him any more hot dogs.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Here's the last one. Oh yeah, on that day.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Give him on that day, and it's important to the case.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: We'll find out. And but you're not allowed to come
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: back here your bands? Oh wow bands. I would assume
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: he could just not use coupons anymore.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: He's yes.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Judge Karen asked, well, why didn't you just tell him
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: that he couldn't use coupons anymore, that he could still
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: pay for the hot dogs.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: He says, it's a fair question.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I was just fed up that day and I
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: didn't want to see him anymore, so.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I told him he was banned. Neil says, no, you
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: threatened me. Oh boy. Gary says, that's ridiculous.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Neil says, he threatened me, and my heart started to
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: race so fast that I had to fall to the floor.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: And it's at this point that the hot dog that
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I was given came out of the bun and slid
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: across the store floor. And it is then that I
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: discovered that the twelve inch Wiener that I ordered was shorter.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: He ordered a twelve inch week. It was a much
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: shorter Wiener Geller.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: He says to the guy across the across the courtroom.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: This is all serious, This is all serious. A twelve
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: inch hot dogs, A big hot, big hot dog. It's
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: a big hot dog.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: So you might beating a free twelve inch Wiener three
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: days a week, as far as I could tell. Yeah,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know how Gary's making any money here. It's
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: just it's it's may be a free twelve inch boy
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: three days. Yeah, I mean a regular hot dog half that. Yeah,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Big hot dog?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: He says that you might be wondering, Dan, how does
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: he know that it's not a twelve inch hot dog?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: He says, I'd love to hear his answer.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Neil says, I just did the tiling at my house
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and it was the same tiles that were at the store.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: And I know that those tiles are twelve inches exactly.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: The Wiener definitely not twelve inches.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: He was measuring it against against his memory of the
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: tiles on his floors or twelve inches yet to be honest.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I and this is a personal flaw for me. I
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: don't like Neil, and the reason I don't like Neil
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Is because there are two I love a good deal there,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: they're listen, I love a good deal. I love if
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I know I'm going to buy something, I'm going to
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: find the best deal on that. And you know this
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: about me. If I'm gonna buy something, if I was
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: gonna buy a new laptop, or I was gonna buy
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: a car, or I was gonna buy whatever, I'm gonna
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: find the best deal that includes a promo code to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: upon whatever. That's fine. People that buy things because they
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: have a coupon are the bane of my existence, because
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: they're not out, they're not out to try to live
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: in a world where we're all living in a same
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: system of give and take. It's I'm trying to find
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: a way to cheat the system. Neil is here to
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: cheat the system. And you know what, there are people
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: like that. You are a little bit like that. You
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: you like a good deal and you'll buy something just
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: because there's a deal on it. That's the difference though
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: with Neil Is. Neil's a wan or kind of souls right.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: He says that Neil's out a winger, kind of sewer.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: He is cheating the system to get a free hot dog.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Just buy a freaking hot dog if you want a
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: hot dog like I just is wild to me, Like,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: for instance, wing Wednesday, there happens to be a deal
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: on wings, so we do it on Wednesday. Here for it.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: If I every day of the week ago, what am
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I getting a deal on? That's what I'm eating. I
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: can't live like that. It drives me nuts. Neil is
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the like the one hundred out of one hundred version
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: of that guy, and I already want Gary to win
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: this already.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: When he realized that the hot dog was not twelve inches,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: his hearts began to raise very quickly, even more than
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: it already was. He realized that he had been lied
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: to all these months about the size of Neil's wieners.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: So he thinks they all weren't twelve inches. Yes, not
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: just this one. That's exactly right. Okay, So he's been
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: eating three twelve inch wieners a week, and and on
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: this day, the day of his last free wiener. Yes,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: he's decided that for the last six months he's been shorted.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: He's been shorted, Okay.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: He's like, I had to go to the hospital and
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: it was discovered that I have taki cardia.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Which is some sort of cardia, some sort of hearts.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's because you've been eating three twelve innch wieners
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a week, Neil good point. Garry says, I had nothing
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to do with that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Freaking Neil says, you've come, you have everything, You have
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: everything to do with that is what Neil says. She
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: asked Neil what the threat was that he is claiming
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: that Gary made to him, and he says, he told
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: me I wasn't welcomed anymore.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: That's a threat. Judge Karen laughs.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: He brings the paperwork from the hospital that shows the
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: diagnosis of that thing, TALKI cardio whatever. Judge Karen googles
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: to diagnosis, she wasn't familiar with it and reads the causes,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: none of which say anything about hot Dog specifically. She
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: asked what the proof is that Gary caused this to happen?
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: He says, distress of being made a fool. It was
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: quite the kerffluffle. Karen says, what's a kerfluffle?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Does he say kerfluffy or kerfuffle? Whatever you say every time?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Is it an actual word? Kerfuffle? Kerfuffle? Okay? Great?
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Whatever he says is what he says. She he explains
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: what that word means, uh, and that he was made
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: to look like a fool. I was made to look
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: like a fool, and it made my heart race. She
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: asked about why he's suing about the hot dog, and uh,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: because part of it is the medical expensive and part
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: of it is hot dog related. And he says, I
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: have proof that the hot dog that I was promised
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: is not twelve inches. Time and time again he promised
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: me a full twelve inch wiener, and time and time
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: again he did not give me what I want.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Well, it was probably delivered the full twelve inches.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Gary says, Neil's incorrect. The name of
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: the hot dog store is Bigfoot hot Dog. We have
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: two hot dogs, the Bigfoot and the Bigfoot Long. At
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: no point is that supposed to be related to measurement.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: It's a Bigfoot theme.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Yes not, since he never says that the dog is
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: twelve inches. Nowhere in the Bigfoot hot Dog menu doesn't
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: say a twelve inch dog. That's right, it's big the
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot or the Bigfoot long. Okay, that's it. Yeah, that
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: could be anything, it's right. Uh.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Neil says it's a breach of contract, false advertising.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Hate Neil. The amount, what he looks like, but I'm
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: picturing him in my head, that's right.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: So he's suing for the hospital build, the amount of
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: ambulance costs as well, and then Olan's costs. Yeah, it
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: was an ambulance related and then over six months he
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: uh purchased without coupon forty two wieners forty two. So
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: he didn't go quite getting free. He didn't go as
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: hard as initially yeah suggests, but.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Still a lot. He would go seven times a.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Month, that's right, at twenty nine cents per inch, So
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: he owes me forty two inches.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Dude, Neil is the worst human being, so that is where.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: So the medical stuff is the two four hundred dollars,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: and then he's suing twelve dollars and eighteen cents for
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: the hot dog that he did not receive, and he
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: is she's ready to judge.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Karen gives Neil a dime. I'm never watching judge Karen again.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: This is absurd. Neil, you are not a person that
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I want to talk to at this very moment. I'm
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: gonna work on myself and I'm gonna be better, and
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be more patient with people, and then I
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: will speak to you, but I may have to go
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: back into therapy.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Karen says, he's not covering any of your medical If
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: you brought in a expert witness, then maybe that would
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: help prove that Gary's responsible, but he didn't do that.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: As for the twelve eighteen, Gary, how much are the
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: hot dogs?
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: He says about three point fifty.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Karen is like, how about you give him four coupons
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: for free dogs and we call it a day.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Jerry says, can we split the difference? Is Gary? Jerry? Gary? Sorry?
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: He says, can we split the difference? Two coupons?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And he has to send a coworkerver so I don't
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: have to see him. Karen says, deal, I'm not giving
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: you any money, but I'm giving you low coupons for
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: hot dogs, but you can't go in pickup.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I love that. And that is the ruling from Judge Carrier.
• 29:34
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