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Sharri | 14 April · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why.
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Speaker 2: On Sky News This.
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Speaker 3: Is Sharry.
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Speaker 4: Good Evening Tonight, a cocky Albanesi boasts he'll run for
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Speaker 4: a third term. He thinks he's got this election in
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Speaker 4: the bag. I'll play you his comments in a moment,
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Speaker 4: and I'll speak about it.
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Speaker 5: Live with Ray Hadley shortly.
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Speaker 4: Also tonight, Albanese's poor record on supporting women exposed, from
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Speaker 4: demoting Tanya Plubisek to toppling Julia Gillard and refusing to
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Speaker 4: investigate the mean girls. Talk about this with Cameron Milner
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Speaker 4: and Andrew Carswell shortly, Plus the hypocrisy of the teals
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Speaker 4: after a leg respender caught paying influences for positive content.
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Speaker 4: This led to a train wreck interview with Monique Ryan
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Speaker 4: and a terrifying threat against Peter Dutton Ray Hadley, as
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Speaker 4: I said, will.
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Speaker 5: Be live in a moment.
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Speaker 4: Also tonight, the White House rules out taking questions from
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Speaker 4: journalists who share their pronouns in an email signature. We'll
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Speaker 4: talk about that with Kosher later in the show, but
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Speaker 4: first tonight, Anthony Alberze's treatment of Tanya Plibisek is in
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Speaker 4: the spotlight after an awkward rebuff at Labor campaign launch yesterday,
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Speaker 4: he snubbed her when she leaned in to give him
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Speaker 4: a hug alban Esi, you can see he pushes her
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Speaker 4: away by the hands. It was an awkward move that
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Speaker 4: clearly contrasts with how Albanzi held up Julia Gillard's arm
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Speaker 4: when he saw.
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Speaker 5: Her and how he hugged Penny Wong. Have a look.
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Speaker 4: Yet for Plebisex. She leaned in and he pushed her away.
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Speaker 4: The body language was obvious for all to see. In truth,
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Speaker 4: Albanese's treatment of Plibasek, who's one of the most popular
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Speaker 4: women in the labor movement.
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Speaker 5: Has been ignored and underreported.
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Speaker 4: Over the past three years, and in fact, Albaneze has
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Speaker 4: a long history of not exactly championing women.
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Speaker 5: He's certainly not the feminist the.
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Speaker 4: Party makes him out to be now. Firstly, he helped
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Speaker 4: tear down Australia's first female Prime Minister, Julia Gillard for
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Speaker 4: his mate Kevin Right. At the time, he justified this
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Speaker 4: decision by saying he disagreed with the original move to
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Speaker 4: dump Wright.
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Speaker 6: I rang the Prime Minister this morning and had a
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Speaker 6: lengthy conversation with her. I informed the Prime Minister that
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Speaker 6: I would be voting for Kevin Rudd in Monday's ballot.
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Speaker 6: I'd argued against this sort of action before, on the
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Speaker 6: night of twenty third of June twenty ten. I believe
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Speaker 6: the government's difficulties can be traced to that night. Labor
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Speaker 6: is a party of fairness. It was not fair, it
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Speaker 6: was wrong.
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Speaker 4: And Albanizi has continued to reward Kevin Rudd ever since,
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Speaker 4: elevating him to Australia's ambassador to Washington, despite the decision
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Speaker 4: likely costing Ozzie businesses dearly. So Albenize played a critical
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Speaker 4: role in toppling Australia's first female prime minister for Rudd.
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Speaker 5: He also refused to.
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Speaker 4: Launch an investigation into the allegations of bullying against Penny.
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Speaker 5: Wong and Katie Gallagher.
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Speaker 4: Why because the so called mean girls were his mates?
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Speaker 4: Is that a good reason not to investigate the very
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Speaker 4: real allegations made by the late Senator Kimberly Kitchen that
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Speaker 4: even her husband referred to at her funeral.
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Speaker 7: Kimberly's political and moral judgment was vastly superior to the
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Speaker 7: small number who opposed her internally.
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Speaker 2: And of course there's a lot I could say.
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Speaker 7: About the unpleasantness of a cantankerous kabbal, not all of
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Speaker 7: them in Parliament that was aimed at kimber and the
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Speaker 7: intensity of it didn't baffle and hurt her.
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Speaker 4: So those comments from Kimberly Kitching's own husband, Andrew landerout.
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Speaker 4: Yet for Albert Easy there was nothing to see here
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Speaker 4: because it just didn't suit him politically. He steadfastly refused
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Speaker 4: to hold an inquiry despite claiming to be the champion
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Speaker 4: of women during the Meto era and the Brittany Higgins saga.
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Speaker 6: Will you call an independent inquiry into Kimberly Kitching's claims
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Speaker 6: or not? No, Carl. What I will do is take
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Speaker 6: the words that came out of Bill Shorten, for example,
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Speaker 6: at the funeral, which is that Kimberly Kitchen would want
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Speaker 6: us to move on.
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Speaker 4: And then there's the way he's treated Plemasek, demoting her
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Speaker 4: simply because she's a leadership rival. He removed her from
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Speaker 4: her beloved education portfolio and put her in the lower
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Speaker 4: profile Environment and Water roll. This is despite her enormous
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Speaker 4: experience as Deputy Leader, Minister for Health and Social Services
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Speaker 4: and Education. She's also the most senior labor figure in
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Speaker 4: the Lower House. Now there's no love loss between the
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Speaker 4: pair to say the least. A recent profile piece on
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Speaker 4: Plivsek described Albanzi as an ineffectual buffoon, and a year
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Speaker 4: into Albanesi's prime ministership, Plibisek even said that she believed
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Speaker 4: she would have won the leadership contest had she run.
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Speaker 5: She said, if I had run, I would have won.
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Speaker 4: Now everyone in Labor knows about the animosity between Albanesi
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Speaker 4: and Plibisek, and when Tanya was asked about the awkward
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Speaker 4: hug and their relationship on Sunrise this morning, she brushed
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Speaker 4: it off.
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Speaker 5: But you'd have to say she wasn't terribly convincing.
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Speaker 8: It looks like you're going in for the hug. Here
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Speaker 8: we go going in, but he's kind of just grabbed
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Speaker 8: your hands. Done the orcs thing where he's done the
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Speaker 8: double shake. Was that we put him this out effect.
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Speaker 8: Joe's up a bit orcs.
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Speaker 9: What haven't there? Do you know what?
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Speaker 2: I reckon?
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Speaker 4: We should still all be elbow bumping, because during an
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Speaker 4: election campaign, the last thing you want is to catch
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Speaker 4: a cold from someone.
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Speaker 9: So that's on me.
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Speaker 5: I should have done the elbow bump, I reckon.
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Speaker 8: He's still getting along, yeah, of course, Oh, friends, buddies.
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Speaker 2: Just teching buddy's.
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Speaker 5: And it went on.
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Speaker 4: Now alban Easy is a better liar than plisk and
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Speaker 4: he also tried to brush it off today, Yet he
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Speaker 4: couldn't guarantee that she'd still have her job after the election.
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Speaker 1: Will you commit to keeping miss Plibasak in the environmental
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Speaker 1: for the next three years?
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Speaker 6: Sending you're related, you know what, I'll commit to trying
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Speaker 6: to win this election. I don't assume you might. I
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Speaker 6: do not assume Tenu Plivask has been a friend of
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Speaker 6: mine for a long period of time. We live in
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Speaker 6: neighboring seats. Were good mate, since she's doing a fantastic job.
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Speaker 4: Although Albaneze was able to guarantee that Penny Wong and
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Speaker 4: Richard Miles would have their jobs after the election when
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Speaker 4: he was asked about this just a few days.
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Speaker 10: Ago, I promise to your key national security team, are
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Speaker 10: pennywe Richard Miles? Can you guarantee they'll serven next term
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Speaker 10: in four in the current roles?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 4: So this and more and tonight I'm going to play
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Speaker 4: you these comments. A bit later, Albanize says he wants
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Speaker 4: to serve a third term, not just a second or third.
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Speaker 4: And this all shows how overly confident. He is, just
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Speaker 4: like with the voice. He thinks he's going to win,
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Speaker 4: and he's already deciding who to reward with promotion and
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Speaker 4: who to demote. It's also possible he's considering offering ministries
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Speaker 4: to teal MPs in the case of a hung parliament now.
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Speaker 4: Dennis Shanahan in The Australian said today that the whole
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Speaker 4: idea that there are leadership hopefuls trailing their coats and
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Speaker 4: cvs before the election is one is a distracting sign
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Speaker 4: of cockiness and hubris, and suggestive of deeper personal and
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Speaker 4: policy differences. It is a bit early for Albanezi to
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Speaker 4: be this cocky in any case, when the election campaign
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Speaker 4: isn't over. It's halftime, with two weeks on Saturday until
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Speaker 4: polling day.
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Speaker 5: Yes, albin Ezi.
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Speaker 4: Is ahead in the polls, but he's also the most
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Speaker 4: disliked of the two leaders. Cameron Milner, who's standing by
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Speaker 4: to join us in a moment, says the election is
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Speaker 4: right now still anybody's gain. He writes, by any measure,
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Speaker 4: Albanesi and Labor have done their best to lose after
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Speaker 4: just one yet Darton hasn't been able to convert the
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Speaker 4: palpable anger and disappointment into votes at the ballot box,
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Speaker 4: and he points to what he says is Albinizi's appolling
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Speaker 4: record as Prime Minister, one of the worst leaders Australia
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Speaker 4: has ever had. Milner writes, voters still being crushed by
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Speaker 4: interest rate risers, spiraling rents and grocery bills that costs
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Speaker 4: more than ever seem to have for voters a collective
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Speaker 4: amnesia when it comes to wreaking vengeance on the bloke
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Speaker 4: who takes the upgrades the freebies, asked them to vote
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Speaker 4: yes to the alberneazy voice and bought himself a cliff
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Speaker 4: top mansion in the midst of a housing crisis.
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Speaker 5: It is a brutal verdict on his prime ministership.
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Speaker 4: And he also notes as the poll show that there
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Speaker 4: is still a large block of undecided voters.
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Speaker 5: And I'm told that in some seats this.
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Speaker 4: Is as high as nearly thirty percent, So almost a
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Speaker 4: third of the vote in some seats is still undecided.
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Speaker 4: And these voters could determine the outcome of the election,
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Speaker 4: but it's very hard to reach them.
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Speaker 5: This is a difficult time of year.
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Speaker 4: Both sides had their campaign launches yesterday and Dutton announced
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Speaker 4: a tax cut of two hundred dollars for ten million Aussies.
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Speaker 4: It's a popular policy, but it's a tax cut pledge
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Speaker 4: he should have made earlier in the campaign, certainly in
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Speaker 4: his Budget reply speech, because it's that.
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Speaker 5: Much harder to sell now.
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Speaker 4: With only two and a half weeks left to go
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Speaker 4: and much of that school holidays, Australians are tuned out,
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Speaker 4: they're away.
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Speaker 5: It's easter.
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Speaker 4: It's the worst possible time to make major election announcements
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Speaker 4: trying to fight for voters attention. The reality is alban
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Speaker 4: Easy is massively unpopular. He personally has no reason to
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Speaker 4: be cocky because Australians strongly dislike him.
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Speaker 5: They don't want to vote for him.
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Speaker 4: But Dutton as yet hasn't been able to turn this
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Speaker 4: dislike for Albanesi into a vote for the coalition.
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Speaker 5: That's his mission.
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Speaker 4: An expert say it is still possible. Dutton proved that
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Speaker 4: he's an effective campaigner. He showed this during the Voice,
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Speaker 4: but there's a concern he may have left major policy
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Speaker 4: announcements too late in the campaign cycle. Okay, big show,
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Speaker 4: as I said, Ray Hadley coming up, Julian Lisa as well,
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Speaker 4: but Now let's bring informer Scott Morrison Press Secretary and
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Speaker 4: Headline Advisory Director Andrew Carswell. Also GXO Strategies director and
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Speaker 4: former Queensland Labor State Secretary Cameron Milner.
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Speaker 5: Great to see you guys, as always on a Monday.
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Speaker 4: Well, let's start with that awkward snub, that cringe worthy
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Speaker 4: exchange between Albanisi and plibasec Cameron, what's your take on this?
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Speaker 4: And do you agree this is alban easy seeing plebsac
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Speaker 4: still as a leadership rival to him.
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Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 11: Absolutely, and it speaks to Albo's to complete insecurity as
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Speaker 11: a human being as well as a leader. He's just
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Speaker 11: so weak, fundamentally weak, and he's never liked a strong woman.
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Speaker 11: Couldn't tolerate Gillard so he finished her off, can't tolerate
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Speaker 11: Tenya plebsec and regrettably couldn't tolerate Kimberly Kitching, who stood
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Speaker 11: up to Albo, stood up for what she wanted to
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Speaker 11: speak about, and of course was dismissed after that blling
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Speaker 11: was done by the mean girls. So if you suck
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Speaker 11: up to Albo like Gallagher and Wong and Kinnearly, you
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Speaker 11: get his favor. If you stand up for something you
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Speaker 11: get snubbed, and that's what we saw at the campaign
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Speaker 11: launch just yesterday.
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Speaker 4: And I have to say to viewers Cameron that you
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Speaker 4: saw a lot of this up close because you were
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Speaker 4: Bill Shotton's chief of staff.
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Speaker 5: So you were there.
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Speaker 4: You were in Parliament House at the time when a
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Speaker 4: lot of these events were unfolding, very much.
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Speaker 11: So, and when I was working for Bill Albow tried
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Speaker 11: two leadership challenges against Bill Shorten in that period of time.
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Speaker 11: So elbows up to the thick of it in this
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Speaker 11: side of things and are soon up close how he
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Speaker 11: doesn't tolerate or like strong will women around the shadow
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Speaker 11: cabinet table and or around the cabinet table.
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Speaker 4: Now Andrew Carswell, there have been a few moments during
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Speaker 4: campaigns where there has been a body language gesture that
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Speaker 4: has really cut through with voters. I mean the most
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Speaker 4: famous of the examples of costs was the John Howard
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Speaker 4: Mark Latham handshake. Do you think this is up there
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Speaker 4: with those moments that voters look at and go that's
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Speaker 4: not quite right.
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Speaker 12: Well, it's certainly amusing and it's a reminder of the
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Speaker 12: brutality of politics as well. Two so called friends and
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Speaker 12: embracing in that way, it's also a reminder to people
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Speaker 12: that Albinizi may not be who he says he is.
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Speaker 12: And when you look at confrontations like that, now there
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Speaker 12: is no love loss between these two. They've been at
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Speaker 12: each other's throat for a very long period of time
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Speaker 12: since Hangy plittersc backed You're our Boss, Cameron in the
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Speaker 12: leadership contest. But on the other side too, I mean
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Speaker 12: Tanya is having a bit of a pin as well.
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Speaker 12: At Albo Nature Positive was dead until Tanya Pleitisk resurrected
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Speaker 12: this year.
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Speaker 9: Just to niggle at him.
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Speaker 12: She hasn't made a decision on Northwest Northwest shelf, the
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Speaker 12: gas projects. She armed an art on a salmon proposal
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Speaker 12: down in Tasmania, just just to get back at Albanesi
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Speaker 12: anyway it can.
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Speaker 9: So it's pretty ugly to watch from an outsider.
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Speaker 4: But again, he put her in this portfolio that was
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Speaker 4: going to be contentious, that was going to have these
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Speaker 4: difficult issues, So you know, in a way he invited
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Speaker 4: this conflict Cameron.
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Speaker 11: Well, and let's not forget that he demoted her from
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Speaker 11: education as well, which was a huge role that she'd
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Speaker 11: done so much work in a policy space. I think
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Speaker 11: Tanya Plepasek has been a perfectly great environment minister. You
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Speaker 11: might like all her decisions, but they're thorough, they're well
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Speaker 11: thought out and they're unchallenged in terms of the court process.
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Speaker 11: So Tany is actually doing the right thing as the
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Speaker 11: Environment Minister. It might not be what Alba wants to
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Speaker 11: see and certainly not what he likes to see in
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Speaker 11: terms of marginal seats in Tasmania or West Australian seats
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Speaker 11: as well, but Tany is doing her job as the
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Speaker 11: Environment Minister and Nature positive. Actually ALP members voted for
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Speaker 11: it at a national conference. They want to see that
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Speaker 11: policy in place, and we actually took it to the
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Speaker 11: Australian people in twenty twenty two. But just like so
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Speaker 11: many other broken promises from Albot, that's once we swept
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Speaker 11: aside as well.
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Speaker 4: All right, let's have a look at news poll in
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Speaker 4: the Australian Today, Andrew Carswell, it shows that the coalition's
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Speaker 4: down and effectively at least the major parties are back
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Speaker 4: to where they were at the last election. Andrew, what
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Speaker 4: do you think is this drift away from the coalition
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Speaker 4: going to continue for the remainder of the next two weeks?
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Speaker 4: Or does dun and still have a chance to turn
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Speaker 4: the trend around.
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Speaker 12: It's certainly a difficult ask, and it appears like the
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Speaker 12: closer we get to poll day, further the Coalition get
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Speaker 12: away from forming any type of government they possibly can.
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Speaker 12: It was always a difficult ask twenty odd seats trying
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Speaker 12: to toss out a first term government. History not on
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Speaker 12: your side in an environment of increasing global economic uncertainty
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Speaker 12: where there is always a flight to safety, always a flight.
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Speaker 9: To a leader that you know. So the task is difficult,
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Speaker 9: but there is hope.
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Speaker 12: There is a long way to still go in this campaign,
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Speaker 12: and as you mentioned before, the softwod is gigantic, is massive.
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Speaker 9: It's the biggest that I've ever seen.
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Speaker 12: A lot of undecided voters that may not like either leader,
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Speaker 12: but they're still in no man's land. They're still yet
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Speaker 12: to make a decision, and they'll make that decision late.
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Speaker 12: The other thing that should give the Coalition some cheer
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Speaker 12: in the poor numbers that we are seeing is that
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Speaker 12: their reduction in primary which is what was forty at
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Speaker 12: Melbourne Cup now it's about thirty five. According to Newspole,
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Speaker 12: the vast majority of that.
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Speaker 9: Primary support has not gone to Labor. It is spraying everywhere.
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Speaker 12: They've failed to capture, spraying to one nation.
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Speaker 9: On the right, they're spraying to the tills and independence
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Speaker 9: on the left. It's going everywhere.
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Speaker 12: So there is a seat to seek concess that's going
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Speaker 12: to determine this election.
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Speaker 9: It's going to spray everywhere.
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Speaker 12: There's going to be no uniform vote, no uniform swing.
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Speaker 12: You're going to see some strange results that are against
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Speaker 12: the odds.
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Speaker 9: But that's well, that's the equation. They're in the weather chance.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fascinating at this point.
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Speaker 4: And as I said before, a lot of people just
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Speaker 4: aren't paying attention at school holidays. They're a way, you know,
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Speaker 4: in many ways, it's the worst time to try to
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Speaker 4: run an election campaign and try and get your messages through. Cameron,
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Speaker 4: in your column in The Nightly Tonight, you write that
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Speaker 4: polling suggests Australians are preparing for a minority Labor government
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Speaker 4: with weak albos PM being led around by the nose
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Speaker 4: by Adam Bant and a bunch of tesla driving Karens.
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Speaker 4: I love that description of the tials tesla driving Karens.
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Speaker 4: But Cameron, this is what you're seeing saying that Australians
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Speaker 4: are predicting news, so at least shows Australians are predicting.
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Speaker 5: But how do you see this playing out over the
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Speaker 5: next two and a half weeks.
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Speaker 11: Well, I'm not sure Australians actually want that. I mean,
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Speaker 11: the poll also said they weren't particularly happy with that
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Speaker 11: outcome either, they were just expecting it, and I think
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Speaker 11: it's because voters resigned to kind of that the weak
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Speaker 11: Albow they know is better still than the unknowns of
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Speaker 11: Dutton and the risks as Andrew made the point in
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Speaker 11: uncertain times of changing leader, but I think polls don't open.
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Speaker 3: Till next Tuesday.
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Speaker 11: I think we're only halfway through this campaign and I
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Speaker 11: think that the Liberal Party is actually hitting it stride.
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Speaker 11: I think Dunton actually had a good campaign launch.
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Speaker 2: You actually got some.
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Speaker 11: Real policies out there. You've got a real tax cut
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Speaker 11: on the table and a genuine housing plan. So they're competitive.
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Speaker 11: I agree a little late, perhaps traditionally, but nevertheless, people are.
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Speaker 3: Going to vote late in this campaign.
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Speaker 11: People aren't switched on yet and so when they are,
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Speaker 11: I think Dunton's actually got a plan that's competitive against Albow,
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Speaker 11: who is at peak Albow Albow can't get any better
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Speaker 11: than this. You know, this is the easiest to campaign
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Speaker 11: so far for Alba, and yet he's still not got
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Speaker 11: a primary bounce and he still look at minority government
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Speaker 11: as his best option.
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Speaker 4: All right, let's end with Peter Dutton's son Harry. He
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Speaker 4: joined his dad in the campaign trail today. He's twenty,
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Speaker 4: he's a carpentry apprentice. He actually looks in my view
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Speaker 4: at least he looks exactly like his dad. He spoke
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Speaker 4: about how hard it is for young Ozzies to afford
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Speaker 4: a home Andrew, of course, this was one of the
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Speaker 4: key announcements from Dutton yesterday that he try and make
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Speaker 4: it easier for young first home buyers to buy a
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Speaker 4: house by giving them or allowing them first home buyers
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Speaker 4: of newly built homes to deduct mortgage.
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Speaker 5: Interest repayments from the in card tax.
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Speaker 4: Do you think we're going to see more of this
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Speaker 4: Dutton's family on the trail to try and humanize him
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Speaker 4: and help sell the policies.
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Speaker 12: Well, what a terrific young fellow who handled himself in
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Speaker 12: the biggest and media spotlights, and kudos to him and
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Speaker 12: kudos to Peter for bringing him out in the campaign trail.
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Speaker 9: We love to see this, We love to see the humanity.
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Speaker 12: Behind the leaders. I mean this is who Peter is.
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Speaker 12: He's not trying to be the family man. He is
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Speaker 12: the family man. So to have his family out there
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Speaker 12: is a fantastic help. I mean, Harry represents a generation
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Speaker 12: of young Australians that have been shut out from the
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Speaker 12: housing market. They can't dream of the great Australian dream again.
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Speaker 12: So it is good to hear those voices and it's
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Speaker 12: good to hear Peter speak into that void because there
20:25
Speaker 12: has been avoid for three years on housing where this
20:28
Speaker 12: government has not built the homes that it is promised,
20:30
Speaker 12: whether that be normal homes or whether that be public
20:35
Speaker 12: housing as well, there's been a void there. So to
20:37
Speaker 12: speak into that office hope to young people.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, total disgrace.
20:41
Speaker 4: A ten billion dollar housing fund that, according to Labour's
20:44
Speaker 4: own admission, hasn't built a single new house. All right,
20:47
Speaker 4: Andrew cars or camera Mino great.
20:48
Speaker 5: Dicerals always all right.
20:51
Speaker 4: Ray Hadley coming up shortly on the show with his
20:54
Speaker 4: view on the election, an Alban Easy and the tials.
20:57
Speaker 4: But first let's turn to this vile play of neo
21:00
Speaker 4: Nazis outside Senator James Patterson's office, Pence.
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Speaker 13: Ball, we cannot move in ourself did year one against
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Speaker 13: the other to judge the letter of the two evil.
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Speaker 2: To make useful idiots of our.
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Speaker 10: Soul s all thank you our nation and good.
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Speaker 7: Time must be no.
21:22
Speaker 6: No, they let them go without.
21:25
Speaker 13: Our money, without our time, without our boots, and let
21:29
Speaker 13: that be an immediate indication.
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Speaker 5: To the chitment, vile extremist nonsense.
21:36
Speaker 4: And James Patterson quite rightly said he wouldn't be intimidated
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Speaker 4: by these losers. Now joining us to discuss is Julian Lisa,
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Speaker 4: Liberal MP and Shadow Assistant Minister for Foreign Affairs.
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Speaker 5: Julian, great to see you on the show.
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Speaker 9: Thanks to be with you, Sherry.
21:50
Speaker 4: Now, the rise of these neo Nazis, particularly with public displays.
21:54
Speaker 5: Like that, is really disturbing. Do you think the police
21:57
Speaker 5: should be doing more here?
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Speaker 3: Yes? I do.
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Speaker 14: I think this desecrates the memory of the one hundred
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Speaker 14: of the million Australians that fought Nazism in World War Two.
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Speaker 14: And I think you know, James Patterson, I'm so proud
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Speaker 14: to be serving alongside him in the party room. He's
22:12
Speaker 14: been excellent at the way in which he stood up
22:14
Speaker 14: against hatred against Jews and hatred against all Australians, and
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Speaker 14: I think the idea that these people are able to
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Speaker 14: glorify this sort of ideology is extraordinary.
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Speaker 9: You'll remember at.
22:24
Speaker 14: The beginning of this term it was Peter Dutton and
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Speaker 14: I that put forward a private member's bill to basically
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Speaker 14: outlaw Nazi salutes and Nazi symbols, and the Labor Government
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Speaker 14: had to be dragged, kicking and screaming, and then later
22:36
Speaker 14: on they had to be drag kicking and screaming to
22:38
Speaker 14: provide mandatory minimum penalties.
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Speaker 2: For these things.
22:41
Speaker 14: So I think we do need to get tougher on
22:43
Speaker 14: this sort of UnAustralian activity.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Look, we're also seeing other instances of shocking anti semitism.
22:52
Speaker 4: This again wasn't so public, but in many ways it's
22:55
Speaker 4: more terrifying. It's a story that's rocked Sidney's legal Fraternity's
23:00
Speaker 4: going to be a potential investigation and even disciplinary action
23:03
Speaker 4: might await. Two Sydney lawyers and their anti smit exchanges
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Speaker 4: are there in black and white. The Executive Council of
23:11
Speaker 4: Australian Jury has also signal plans to complain to the
23:15
Speaker 4: New Southelles Legal Services Commissioner. This is a pair of
23:18
Speaker 4: lawyers who denigrated Jews, laughed at the Hollo hoax, the
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Speaker 4: Shlomo cost.
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Speaker 5: This is all in The Australian. It's been reported by
23:28
Speaker 5: Steven Rice.
23:29
Speaker 4: Their messages were uncovered after they were planning to leave
23:32
Speaker 4: the legal firm.
23:34
Speaker 9: Now.
23:34
Speaker 5: One of the.
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Speaker 4: Lawyers, Joannie van Gelder, told The Australian, the thoughtless comments
23:39
Speaker 4: were taken from a private conversation out of context and
23:42
Speaker 4: were not intended to be taken seriously. I'm sorry they
23:46
Speaker 4: have been published and have caused hurt and concern. They
23:49
Speaker 4: don't reflect my views of feelings. Well, that's an unacceptable
23:54
Speaker 4: response in my view because it shows a lack of responsibility.
23:57
Speaker 4: They're apologizing for the comments being put in the public domain, Julia,
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Speaker 4: and not for the actual sentiment behind them.
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Speaker 14: Indeed, Jo it's extraordinary that professional people would say these
24:09
Speaker 14: sort of things, even in jest. That says something about
24:11
Speaker 14: what's become of our country in the last few months,
24:14
Speaker 14: the last year or so. The people think it's acceptable
24:17
Speaker 14: to make jokes about this sort of thing, and to
24:19
Speaker 14: refer to the Holocaust in such a derogatory and off
24:22
Speaker 14: hand fashion. You have to wonder where the bureaucracy that
24:26
Speaker 14: is in charge of dealing with social cohesion has been
24:28
Speaker 14: all throughout this time. And I've said it many times
24:30
Speaker 14: on your program. The Human Rights Commission is supposed to
24:33
Speaker 14: be doing things to bolster the social cohesion, to stamp
24:37
Speaker 14: this stuff out, but they've been asleep at the wheel
24:39
Speaker 14: and too often harboring anti Semites and so on, and
24:43
Speaker 14: people who display anti israelatitudes. When the body that is
24:46
Speaker 14: set up to deal with social cohesion, to deal with
24:48
Speaker 14: racism in our country is asleep at the wheel, what
24:51
Speaker 14: do we expect.
24:52
Speaker 3: Will happen in the community.
24:53
Speaker 14: And what we're seeing from these two lawyers is just
24:55
Speaker 14: disgusting and abhorrent.
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Speaker 5: And it wasn't only jokes.
24:57
Speaker 4: They were commenting about, you know, a Jewish client, you know, and.
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Speaker 14: They were commenting about one of their female colleagues as well.
25:06
Speaker 14: It just it's really, as somebody who once practiced law,
25:11
Speaker 14: I'm sad to see that there are people in the
25:13
Speaker 14: legal profession that think this. And you know, one of
25:16
Speaker 14: the problems that we've had, the reason we're having mandatory
25:18
Speaker 14: minimum sentences in relation to hate crimes in this country
25:21
Speaker 14: is because I think there are people in the legal
25:23
Speaker 14: profession that don't take these things seriously enough. That was
25:26
Speaker 14: what we're in the Coalition were concerned about. We didn't
25:29
Speaker 14: want to see judges not dealing with the anti Semitism
25:33
Speaker 14: that we saw during the Summer of Hate properly. But
25:35
Speaker 14: it stems from the legal practitioners who become judges. If
25:37
Speaker 14: people are not exhibiting a zero tolerance attitude to this
25:41
Speaker 14: sort of thing, then what sort of country we're setting
25:43
Speaker 14: ourselves up.
25:44
Speaker 4: Exactly, And I hope that they are struck off if
25:48
Speaker 4: there is an investigation, well, Peter Darton has said that
25:51
Speaker 4: he'd revisit or if he was Prime Minister, he once
25:53
Speaker 4: saw the anti Submitic cold cases to be revisited, to
25:57
Speaker 4: have them investigated, because but it does.
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Speaker 5: Seem like we haven't seen action on a lot of major.
26:04
Speaker 4: Criminal incidents so far, including the fire bombing of the
26:07
Speaker 4: Ada Synagogue.
26:08
Speaker 14: Yes, I completely support Peter Dutton in this. I mean
26:11
Speaker 14: Australians have a real choice at this election. We remember
26:14
Speaker 14: before the last election the Labor Party said there'd be
26:16
Speaker 14: no difference between the two parties in relation to the
26:20
Speaker 14: Jewish community and in relation to the state of Israel.
26:23
Speaker 14: And what we've seen over the last three years is
26:25
Speaker 14: that there's never been a greater difference, and I think
26:28
Speaker 14: going into this election this is another instance of a
26:31
Speaker 14: real difference between the two parties. It's only the coalition
26:33
Speaker 14: that has put together a suite of policies that includes
26:36
Speaker 14: looking back at some of these cases. That includes deporting
26:39
Speaker 14: people who are visa holders who have been engaged in
26:42
Speaker 14: antisemitic conduct. That includes things like the judicial inquiry into
26:46
Speaker 14: antisemitism on campus. That includes a proper coordination between state
26:50
Speaker 14: and federal police and other security agencies to deal with antisemitism.
26:54
Speaker 14: The Labour parties had to be dragged, kicking and screaming
26:57
Speaker 14: on all of these matters, and they have sold our
27:00
Speaker 14: a Western liberal democratic ally in the State of Israel, Ai,
27:03
Speaker 14: the United Nations and through so many of their actions.
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Speaker 2: The choice is very clear here sharing.
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Speaker 4: It's appalling and you were part of our anti Semitism summit,
27:12
Speaker 4: Julian and again Dartan has said that he'd commit to
27:15
Speaker 4: all of the outcomes that arose during that summit Albanezi
27:19
Speaker 4: Center three page later that said nothing.
27:22
Speaker 5: He wouldn't commit to a single one. So it shows
27:25
Speaker 5: you know just how seriously or not he actually takes the.
27:28
Speaker 9: Issue that's right.
27:29
Speaker 14: And it's not just the Jewish community who's concerned about this, Shary.
27:32
Speaker 14: All Australians are concerned about these issues because it says
27:36
Speaker 14: something about Australia if law abiding citizens, whoever they may be,
27:41
Speaker 14: don't feel the full protection of the law. And that's
27:43
Speaker 14: what we've seen over the last three years to law and.
27:45
Speaker 4: Order, a national security and safety for everyone. Julian and
27:47
Speaker 4: Lisa really appreciate your time.
27:49
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Sharry.
27:51
Speaker 4: Now still to calm till MP Manique Ryan's train wreck
27:54
Speaker 4: ABC interview when she was asked about a leg respender
27:58
Speaker 4: paying influences.
28:00
Speaker 5: Much for integrity in politics.
28:02
Speaker 4: And Labour's moved to weaponize just into naw PA jimp
28:05
Speaker 4: for prices, Maga comments Ra Hadley would join me live
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Speaker 4: in studio next, welcome back, all right, let's bring in
28:15
Speaker 4: now radio legend Ray Hadley, Ray.
28:18
Speaker 5: Great to see you.
28:19
Speaker 3: Thank you, Shary.
28:19
Speaker 1: Always wonderful to coming into the studio with you.
28:21
Speaker 4: Well, you joined me the other night at the leader's
28:23
Speaker 4: debate out in Paramatta and at the time, you know,
28:27
Speaker 4: you felt, along with many others, that Dutton had won
28:31
Speaker 4: that night he was going to be back in the game.
28:34
Speaker 4: But today we saw the news poll showing he'd slipped
28:36
Speaker 4: further behind.
28:38
Speaker 5: What are you thinks going on here?
28:39
Speaker 4: Do you think it's a case that people aren't tuning
28:42
Speaker 4: in yet that it is the school holidays, or do
28:45
Speaker 4: you think the drift is now away from Dutton?
28:47
Speaker 3: No, I think that he's still in with a live chance.
28:50
Speaker 1: It'd be very very big ass to get him to
28:52
Speaker 1: majority government, as opposed to perhaps convincing some of the
28:55
Speaker 1: cross benches to join him. But the prime minister's in
28:58
Speaker 1: front as a Minori already prime minister. But I look,
29:03
Speaker 1: I was driving home from Leaf Club and I was
29:06
Speaker 1: stunned by the margin effectively, And there was also that
29:11
Speaker 1: so many people hadn't made their mind up, having sat
29:13
Speaker 1: through all of that as we all did for an hour,
29:16
Speaker 1: and they were still undecided. I thought, well, maybe that
29:21
Speaker 1: they want to make a decision. So I didn't take
29:24
Speaker 1: too much notice of what happened on the night with
29:26
Speaker 1: the one hundred people who voted apparently undecided voters, although
29:31
Speaker 1: I would doubt that based on some of the questioning.
29:34
Speaker 1: But I think that I started. I'm doing this thing
29:37
Speaker 1: for the Daily Telegraph on a daily basis. The Daily
29:39
Speaker 1: Telegraph app in the Daily Telegraph dot com dot a
29:42
Speaker 1: about the election, and I said last Monday after it
29:46
Speaker 1: was a pretty ordinary week really for Peter Dutton personally
29:50
Speaker 1: and for the party. I said, you need some sort
29:52
Speaker 1: of stop gap here. He needs a circuit breaker, and
29:56
Speaker 1: I suggested you Center Price. And I was delighted to
29:59
Speaker 1: see she was there on the weekend. I mean, I
30:02
Speaker 1: couldn't agree more with Andrew Bolt who wrote this morning
30:05
Speaker 1: and probably said tonight as well, that there was all
30:08
Speaker 1: this mass hysteria because she happened the channel Donald Trump
30:11
Speaker 1: in a throwaway line. I mean, the big part was
30:14
Speaker 1: her performance after that, where Dutton was brave enough to
30:18
Speaker 1: say at the end of her having a bit to say,
30:21
Speaker 1: any more questions, media, more questions, he could see that
30:25
Speaker 1: she was doing well. She's a person that the public
30:29
Speaker 1: have confidence in. She talks common sense, she's straight from
30:33
Speaker 1: the hip. And so Dutton not many I heard you
30:37
Speaker 1: comments earlier about Anthony Albanezi and females. He's not going
30:42
Speaker 1: to give Tanya Plipasec a leg up because she's going
30:45
Speaker 1: to be a challenger if he leads a minority government.
30:47
Speaker 1: There's noted about that. And this is rubbish about three terms.
30:49
Speaker 1: I've meant fair egrem Well.
30:51
Speaker 4: Yeah he said that tonight. Why do we have a
30:53
Speaker 4: look at what is that? So this is Albo in
30:55
Speaker 4: an interview with The Nightly tonight.
30:57
Speaker 5: Have a listen.
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Speaker 11: You're telling me if the Nightley brings me up and
31:01
Speaker 11: says Latika, will you come out and cover the campaign
31:04
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty eights?
31:06
Speaker 5: It's you that I'll be shadowing.
31:08
Speaker 6: If I'm successful on the third of May, then yeah,
31:12
Speaker 6: you'd be very welcome. I look forward and I'll guarantee
31:15
Speaker 6: you another podcast during that campaign.
31:19
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, ray three terms.
31:22
Speaker 4: This is apitome of cockiness thinking he's got this in
31:25
Speaker 4: the bag and he's going to run again.
31:27
Speaker 1: No, look, it's remarkable that he should not understand that. Firstly,
31:32
Speaker 1: he's got two elections in front of him to do that,
31:34
Speaker 1: but more importantly, he's got the Labor Party machine'll be
31:39
Speaker 1: tearing him asunder as they did to others, and people
31:42
Speaker 1: like him will vote for other people as he did
31:44
Speaker 1: for Kevin run over others including Julia Gillard. And look,
31:48
Speaker 1: I'm a bit compromised by Tanya Plipasek. I do test
31:51
Speaker 1: to policies. I just think it's madness.
31:54
Speaker 3: But I like her.
31:55
Speaker 1: I've had many conversations with her as a person, and
31:59
Speaker 1: I like her, and she's I think, a very decent person.
32:02
Speaker 3: It's just that her and I'll never agree on policy matters.
32:05
Speaker 1: But the way she was treated by the Prime Minister,
32:07
Speaker 1: and I saw the stuff you played earlier about you know,
32:10
Speaker 1: you want to elbow, you don't want to kiss people
32:12
Speaker 1: because you might get.
32:13
Speaker 3: The I mean, that's all rubbish. He brushed her. It
32:15
Speaker 3: was a brush.
32:17
Speaker 9: She was leaning in.
32:19
Speaker 1: He backed the way. And then I saw that his
32:22
Speaker 1: fiance lent In JD. Lent In and did what is
32:26
Speaker 1: dignified and proper. But he brushed her. And what you've
32:29
Speaker 1: also highlighted the night is his treatment of women previously
32:33
Speaker 1: Kimberly Kitching. He was as weak as Ward on that,
32:37
Speaker 1: almost as weak as he's been on the anti semitism
32:40
Speaker 1: as well.
32:42
Speaker 4: He was outraged at Scott Morrison for the supposed treatment
32:45
Speaker 4: of Brittney Higgins, yet wouldn't have an inquiry into claims
32:49
Speaker 4: from his own politician that was so grave. You know,
32:53
Speaker 4: she'd raised them with Richard Miles, her husband spoke about them.
32:57
Speaker 5: At her funeral. Everyone in the labor party knew about that,
33:00
Speaker 5: and he wouldn't have an inquiry.
33:03
Speaker 1: I always thought that I'd never argue that Kevin Rudd
33:05
Speaker 1: and Malcolm Turnbull their worst prime ministers. I think this
33:08
Speaker 1: prime minister might have them both capin. I really do.
33:14
Speaker 1: The discussion today amongst the mates was geez, if he
33:16
Speaker 1: does get two terms and then three, what will you do?
33:19
Speaker 3: I might hibernate for the next six years or hide
33:22
Speaker 3: because I think it would be disastrous for us.
33:26
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people ask you that question that
33:28
Speaker 4: you just said you had with your mates.
33:29
Speaker 5: A lot of people are talking about it.
33:31
Speaker 4: What will we do if Albert Easy and Penny Wang
33:34
Speaker 4: and Tony Burke and.
33:36
Speaker 3: As we keep mentioning, it's a package deal.
33:38
Speaker 1: But even if you forgive Albanizi for the sins of
33:41
Speaker 1: the past three years, if he's returned as prime minister,
33:46
Speaker 1: you get Chris Bowen, please, you get Tony Burke swearing
33:51
Speaker 1: in thirty and a half thousand people, so I'll vote
33:53
Speaker 1: for him.
33:53
Speaker 3: There's not the reason to have done it.
33:55
Speaker 1: And you get Penny Wong, who's been as weak as
33:57
Speaker 1: water at the UN and made decisions there have never
33:59
Speaker 1: been made in our best interest before and so it's
34:03
Speaker 1: a packaged deal.
34:05
Speaker 3: Now. The other thing that happened over the.
34:06
Speaker 1: Weekend was we mentioned earlier just at a price channeling
34:09
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, who cares. But people are saying that the
34:14
Speaker 1: opposition leader is too much like Trump.
34:16
Speaker 3: He's nothing like Trump. He's nothing like him at all.
34:19
Speaker 1: Mind you, there are some things Trump's done that he
34:21
Speaker 1: probably would like to do, but he won't.
34:24
Speaker 4: But do you think this scare campaign is working though,
34:26
Speaker 4: because Albanize is referencing it every single day at the moment.
34:31
Speaker 1: Well, yes, those that don't know him well would perhaps
34:36
Speaker 1: tumble for that line and that nonsense. But he's not
34:39
Speaker 1: anything like Donald Trump in any way, shape or form.
34:43
Speaker 1: He's very much his own man doesn't and I think
34:47
Speaker 1: my view is he'd make an outstanding prime minister. My
34:50
Speaker 1: fear is that if he doesn't win this one, they
34:52
Speaker 1: won't give him another chance. And I'd say to him
34:55
Speaker 1: and others within the party, John Howard came back and
35:01
Speaker 1: contested and was I think one of our best prime
35:03
Speaker 1: ministers of a modern era, and I think Dutton can
35:06
Speaker 1: be of that standard too. He reminds me a lot
35:08
Speaker 1: of John Howard in many respects. He's honest and he's
35:12
Speaker 1: decent and there's no bs attached to him, and I
35:15
Speaker 1: think he'd be a great prime minister. Whether it's this
35:17
Speaker 1: time or next time, I don't.
35:18
Speaker 4: It depends on the size of the web. You know,
35:21
Speaker 4: if he wins ten.
35:22
Speaker 5: Seats, then his leadership might be in trouble.
35:24
Speaker 4: If he wins fifteen or more, you think it would
35:27
Speaker 4: be safe. But even if his leadership, leadership is in trouble.
35:31
Speaker 5: I mean, you think, who are the contenders?
35:32
Speaker 3: Well, that's the point. Well, you and I've discussed this before.
35:35
Speaker 1: There has to be someone waiting in the wings like
35:38
Speaker 1: there is with the Prime minister a tenure.
35:40
Speaker 3: Plibostek is waiting for her opportunity, and.
35:42
Speaker 5: Jim Chalmers and others, many others.
35:45
Speaker 1: Jim's very ambitious, But there's no one that stands out
35:49
Speaker 1: in the Liberal Party.
35:51
Speaker 5: Not in the lower House anyway.
35:53
Speaker 3: Well, there's other people in the upper House that would
35:56
Speaker 3: stand out.
35:56
Speaker 1: And I think that someone like down the track you
36:00
Speaker 1: center Price would be an outstanding leader. But I think
36:03
Speaker 1: what they should do for the next three weeks.
36:05
Speaker 5: She needs to move to the lower House for that.
36:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, but she needs to be on the election trail.
36:10
Speaker 1: I mean, he was confident enough over the weekend in
36:13
Speaker 1: perpose say more questions for your center.
36:16
Speaker 3: I think he's got to be confident. Aj you center,
36:19
Speaker 3: I want you on deck for the next three weeks.
36:22
Speaker 3: Not every day, but she is there.
36:25
Speaker 1: She is someone that the electric warm to and there
36:28
Speaker 1: aren't any politicians the electric warm too on a frequent basis.
36:33
Speaker 4: And she's shown she was a good campaigner during the
36:35
Speaker 4: Voice as well, so she can cut through to voters
36:38
Speaker 4: and they trust her. And you know she out elbows
36:41
Speaker 4: elbow on the tough up the trust.
36:45
Speaker 1: She's an outstanding woman. She's an Indigenous woman, an outstanding
36:48
Speaker 1: Indigenous woman as well, and you know they should be
36:51
Speaker 1: falling over themselves people across Australia to make sure she's
36:55
Speaker 1: part of the political landscape into the future. And the
36:57
Speaker 1: best way for that to happens to make sure that
37:00
Speaker 1: this goes right down to the wire.
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Speaker 3: On May three, all.
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Speaker 5: Right, Ray Hadley, great to see you as always.
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Speaker 3: Shari, thank you.
37:05
Speaker 1: I'll return my regular spot, I hope next Tuesday with
37:08
Speaker 1: your permission, because.
37:09
Speaker 4: You're doing a fundraiser for the Children's Hospital tomorrow night.
37:12
Speaker 3: Very important it is, indeed, we're getting together.
37:15
Speaker 1: They raised tens of millions of dollars for the hospital network,
37:18
Speaker 1: the Sydney Children's Hospital Network encompassing Ramwick and Westmead and
37:24
Speaker 1: it's a very important goal. Then it comes up in June.
37:27
Speaker 1: But a bit of legwork tomorrow night with some very
37:29
Speaker 1: very generous benefactors.
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Speaker 5: Well good on you for doing that so important, Thanks Raley.
37:34
Speaker 4: And after the break we'll look at those comments from
37:36
Speaker 4: senator just sent an average in for price when she
37:39
Speaker 4: unleashes at journalists after the ALP created this smear campaign
37:43
Speaker 4: and Manique Grian's train wreck interview when she was asked
37:46
Speaker 4: about a LEGRAS spender paying influences. That's after this quick break,
37:54
Speaker 4: welcome back. Well let's turn now to the very definition
37:57
Speaker 4: of a train wreck interview t LMP Mini Brian's disastrous
38:01
Speaker 4: appearance on.
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Speaker 5: The ABC yesterday.
38:04
Speaker 4: Now, this fun book was about influencers being paid to
38:08
Speaker 4: post content on politicians, specifically about a leg respander.
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Speaker 5: Minique Bran was asked about it. It was appalling. Have
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Speaker 5: a look.
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Speaker 7: Look, I don't want to have an opinion on it, really,
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Speaker 7: I think, well.
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Speaker 6: You don't think you don't think voters deserve to know
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Speaker 6: that if someone they're watching is saying great things about
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Speaker 6: a politician, whether they're being paid by that politician.
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Speaker 5: I have to give some thought. It's not something I've
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Speaker 5: given great thought to myself.
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Speaker 7: Obviously, I haven't engaged in anything like that muscle.
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Speaker 9: You'd have to give that some thought.
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Speaker 5: Well, I would think that it would be clear. I
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Speaker 5: don't know. I think I'd have to give it some thought.
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Speaker 5: Done and it went on.
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Speaker 4: Here is one example of influencer content that a legraspender
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Speaker 4: allegedly paid for.
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Speaker 10: It meets a legraspender, not a career politician. She's a
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Speaker 10: wicked smart economist, mother, a daily five K queen, and
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Speaker 10: works in line with the values of her constituents who
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Speaker 10: are real working people.
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Speaker 4: But no disclosure that that's paid content. Well to discuss,
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Speaker 4: let's bring in our liberal senator Holly Hughes and Daily
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Speaker 4: Telegraph journalist James Willis.
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Speaker 5: Welcome to you both.
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Speaker 4: Well, Holly, I mean, what happened to integrity in politics
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Speaker 4: from the tills?
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Speaker 15: We might be shocked, Shari to hear that I'm not
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Speaker 15: a big watcher of insiders anymore, and certainly haven't gone
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Speaker 15: out of my way to watch an entire interview with
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Speaker 15: monic Bryan sharing committees with her was more.
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Speaker 16: Than enough time, I can assure you. But that interview
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Speaker 16: and the clips that I have seen were just appalling.
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Speaker 16: When you're talking about integrity, it shouldn't be something you
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Speaker 16: have to spend a great deal of time thinking about
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Speaker 16: whether or not people that are making a decision about
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Speaker 16: who they're going to vote for haveing information that provides
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Speaker 16: them with a better understanding of what's being told to
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Speaker 16: them and the fact that they're paying for people to
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Speaker 16: say nice things about them.
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Speaker 17: Now, is that the newest idea out there? No, but
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Speaker 17: I think it's pretty clear. It's why we have authorizations
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Speaker 17: on almost everything we do and say during the election time,
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Speaker 17: so it is authorized by and we know in America,
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Speaker 17: at the end of a j ad they say, you know,
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Speaker 17: I'm so and so, and I have proved this message.
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Speaker 17: I mean, it's you know, how much integrity is this woman?
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Speaker 3: God?
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Speaker 5: If she had no opinion on that. No, exactly, James.
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Speaker 4: It's not been a good campaign for the Tills, a
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Speaker 4: spate of scandals, Minnie Brian's husband tearing down posters. Do
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Speaker 4: you think she could be at risk of losing her
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Speaker 4: seat of Curier.
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Speaker 13: I think a few of these Tills are at risk, Sharryon,
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Speaker 13: I think they're certainly Zali's Eleagle appears to be safe
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Speaker 13: in Waringa, even though Jamie Rodgers is a very good
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Speaker 13: Liberal candidate. But there are some others where the margin
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Speaker 13: with redistributions has been narrowed up.
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Speaker 2: And look the great.
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Speaker 13: Bit of hypocrisy here with the teals And this is
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Speaker 13: the kind of thing Monique Ryan should care about a lot,
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Speaker 13: and to say she doesn't really have an opinion on
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Speaker 13: it just doesn't wash. I mean, Holly's got it right.
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Speaker 13: When the Liberal Party puts an ad out, you have
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Speaker 13: to say authorized by Liberal Party HQ, when the Greens
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Speaker 13: do that, when Labour have to do that.
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Speaker 2: It's clear that the AEC the electoral laws.
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Speaker 13: Are really behind the times and we actually need a
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Speaker 13: bit of reform in this area to make sure that
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Speaker 13: if a social media influencer puts something up where they're
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Speaker 13: suddenly gushing over a politician, that there is a message
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Speaker 13: on the screen that says, by the way, this was
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Speaker 13: authorized by in this case a legraspender or whoever else.
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Speaker 2: So there's a major flaw there.
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Speaker 13: But we've also seen major examples of teals except money from.
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Speaker 2: People with links to fossil fuels.
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Speaker 13: I mean, that's the sort of thing they should be
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Speaker 13: just turning back and not small donations. We're talking forty
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Speaker 13: to fifty firs dollars at previous elections. So there's enormous
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Speaker 13: hypocrisy here and it's the kind of thing that Monique
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Speaker 13: Ryan should care about and have front and center for
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Speaker 13: her campaign heading into the pulse.
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Speaker 5: And by the way, it's not just the tills.
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Speaker 4: We saw that the alb and Easy government paid for
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Speaker 4: the travel and accommodation for some influences to travel to
42:19
Speaker 4: camera for The budget wasn't disclosed, so you know, a
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Speaker 4: lot of people, this is how a lot of young
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Speaker 4: people get their news. They're on TikTok and Instagram and
42:29
Speaker 4: this is there's.
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Speaker 5: No disclosure at all that it was paid.
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Speaker 4: Now let's turn to this moment the Labor's trying to
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Speaker 4: exploit where Senator just sent an Amber jimper Price says
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Speaker 4: she wants to make Australia great again.
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Speaker 5: Have a look, I'm.
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Speaker 4: So proud to be able to stand beside and to
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Speaker 4: ensure that we can make Australia rate again. So it
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Speaker 4: was immediately weaponized by Labor and they threw an attack
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Speaker 4: ad together at lightning speed.
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Speaker 8: We can't make Australia rate again, that we can make
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Speaker 8: Australia right again, that we can make Australia right again.
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Speaker 4: So this campaign to keep it in the headlines continued
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Speaker 4: because then there was a picture emerged of the.
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Speaker 5: Senator wearing a Maga hat. The Prime Holly, Oh, it's outrageous.
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Speaker 5: Have you ever seen anything like it?
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Speaker 17: I can tell you I did a US trip in
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Speaker 17: two thousand and four and there was a couple of
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Speaker 17: labor No one was a politician at that stage. But
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Speaker 17: now politicians who were at George Bush rallies with me
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Speaker 17: with George Bush gear on. So perhaps if only I
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Speaker 17: could find some of them to recycle at the moment.
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Speaker 17: I mean, honestly, this is actually very concerning though that
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Speaker 17: our country at the moment economically, the way the world
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Speaker 17: is from a defense perspective, everything is really very finely
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Speaker 17: teaturing at the moment, and all this labor government wants
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Speaker 17: to do is throw mud to Center and to Peter
43:58
Speaker 17: Dutton over some links to Donald Trump. I mean, it's
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Speaker 17: just insanity. And I can tell you I got photos
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Speaker 17: through behavior friends.
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Speaker 5: Who are over in the US buying those hats.
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Speaker 17: They've become quite colector's items. It doesn't mean you sign
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Speaker 17: up to every element of their politics or what they
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Speaker 17: believe or what they say. But the Labor Party is
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Speaker 17: a great party of haters. They've got nothing positive ever
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Speaker 17: to say. It's always sneers. They always go personal and
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Speaker 17: this is just another example of it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all right.
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Speaker 4: Let's turn to this story in the Daily Telegraph James
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Speaker 4: that ABC appears to be in hot water overclaims that
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Speaker 4: it may have misled viewers. And there's been an official
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Speaker 4: complaint against the public broadcaster made by the Australian War Memorial.
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Speaker 5: And this is over an episode of Four Corners. James,
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Speaker 5: what can you tell us about this?
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Speaker 2: Well, it's an interesting one.
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Speaker 13: And yes, as you say, there's been an official complaint
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Speaker 13: from the War Memorial to the ABC.
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Speaker 2: A month ago a Four Corners episode went.
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Speaker 13: To weir, which was highly critical of the five hundred
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Speaker 13: million dollar construction at the War Memorial to give a
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Speaker 13: big expansion and tell all the stories of war. The
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Speaker 13: scene in question involves what starts with the last post
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Speaker 13: and then cuts to the noise of construction and machinery
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Speaker 13: and cranes, which I think sort of drowns out part
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Speaker 13: of the last post. As that continues. The War Memorial
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Speaker 13: is really upset because they have had stop work orders
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Speaker 13: in place to prevent any construction from happening during the
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Speaker 13: commemorative services like we saw. They believe the ABC did
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Speaker 13: this on purpose. The ABC categorically denies that in the
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Speaker 13: statement they've given us today, But certainly I think if
45:42
Speaker 13: people look at the footage they.
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Speaker 2: Can make up their own minds.
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Speaker 13: But it is worth noting it is the same journalist
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Speaker 13: that came under fire a few months ago Sharhi for
45:51
Speaker 13: his report on Heston Russell and the extra gunshots added
45:55
Speaker 13: to footage of a helicopter mission which created big problems
45:59
Speaker 13: for the ab SEE at the time.
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Speaker 9: So this will be reviewed.
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Speaker 2: It's now with the Independent Omitsman.
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Speaker 13: But the War Memorial is of the view that this
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Speaker 13: was at least insensitive, if not, in their.
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Speaker 2: Words, deliberately misleading.
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Speaker 4: All right, So the Wilmer Morrows comment and the ABC's
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Speaker 4: full denial on the Daily Telegraph website, James Willis, Holly Hughes,
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Speaker 4: appreciate your time, all right, and we've still got a
46:22
Speaker 4: lot more to come on the show. The White House
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Speaker 4: rules out taking questions from journalists who share their pronouns
46:29
Speaker 4: and their email signatures.
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Speaker 5: Fascinating story.
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Speaker 4: Plus a Palestinian billionaire resigns from Harvard after accusations he
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Speaker 4: helped finance terror infrastructure for Hamaslas. To speak about this with
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Speaker 4: Koshergata next welcome back, We're joining us now. Sky News
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Speaker 4: contributor Koshergata kosh I love this story.
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Speaker 5: The White House says.
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Speaker 4: It's not going to take questions from journalists who have
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Speaker 4: their pronouns in their email signature. This is coming from
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Speaker 4: the press. Second Carolyn Levitt, She says, any reporter who
47:02
Speaker 4: chooses to put their preferred pronouns in their bio clearly
47:06
Speaker 4: does not care about biological reality or truth and therefore
47:10
Speaker 4: cannot be trusted to write an honest story.
47:13
Speaker 5: What do you make of this?
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Speaker 18: It really is classic Trump and this administration where it
47:20
Speaker 18: starts with the substance where he's issued many executive orders
47:24
Speaker 18: doing this, saying that federal government will no longer recognize
47:27
Speaker 18: a spectrum of genders. They've removed it from drop down
47:29
Speaker 18: menus on the website. They're banning boys from playing in girls'
47:33
Speaker 18: sports or withholding funding for people who do that, and
47:36
Speaker 18: they're finishing it off now in terms of this messaging
47:39
Speaker 18: from the White House Press Secretary. And I think it's
47:41
Speaker 18: also a little bit beyond the policy piece of it.
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Speaker 18: It's about stagecraft and power flexing a little bit between
47:47
Speaker 18: the adversarial press and the Trump White House. And I
47:50
Speaker 18: wouldn't be surprised if you see that continue in the
47:53
Speaker 18: vein of the AP fighting back about not wanting to
47:56
Speaker 18: call it the Gulf of America. And there's actually a
47:58
Speaker 18: judge that has gotten involved an injunction and all of that.
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Speaker 18: I wouldn't be surprised if we see some of that
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Speaker 18: happen here because a lot of those reporters have pronouns
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Speaker 18: in their bios.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially you can imagine reporters at places like The
48:08
Speaker 4: New York Times particularly, perhaps they're not going to get
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Speaker 4: their questions answered.
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Speaker 5: Now, now, let's have a look at this.
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Speaker 4: A Palestinian American billionaire, Basha Masri, has resigned from his
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Speaker 4: role on the Dean Council at Harvard University. This following
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Speaker 4: a lawsuit that accuses him of helping finance her muss.
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Speaker 4: He's denied the allegation, saying you never engaged in any
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Speaker 4: unlawful activity or provided support for violence, but kosher that
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Speaker 4: allegations are that he helped finance terror infrastructure and even
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Speaker 4: rocket launch sites.
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Speaker 18: Yes, the allegations are indeed very serious. I think there's
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Speaker 18: some like two hundred plaintiffs, two hundred families from October
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Speaker 18: seven victims are in that and joint in that lawsuit
48:52
Speaker 18: and bringing those charges. He as you say, has of
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Speaker 18: course denied them, and I'm sure we'll go through a
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Speaker 18: vigorous process as is his right to do that and
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Speaker 18: defend that because he denies any of those allegations being true.
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Speaker 18: But they do say that basically, he being a billionaire,
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Speaker 18: either directly or through his many businesses and companies, has
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Speaker 18: been in violation of anti terrorism law. That's the premise
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Speaker 18: of the lawsuit that's being brought. And in the wake
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Speaker 18: of all of that, I think he just decided to
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Speaker 18: resign obviously because this is going to consume him and
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Speaker 18: Harvard doesn't want any of this happening. More on top
49:25
Speaker 18: of everything else that we've seen with some high profile
49:27
Speaker 18: firings and everything else that happened there.
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Speaker 4: Last year, Trump's health check has been made public today.
49:32
Speaker 4: This is obviously a big story. When jar Biden Hattie's
49:35
Speaker 4: medical examination. So tell us what do we know about Trump's.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, so this is the annual tradition of the president
49:44
Speaker 18: getting their physical and then releasing it the White House
49:46
Speaker 18: releasing it for public consumption. He not surprisingly, you know,
49:50
Speaker 18: he is old, the oldest president seventy eight, but he
49:52
Speaker 18: is in good health. He's well known to be a teetotaler.
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Speaker 18: He famously plays golf, does interviews at two in the morning,
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Speaker 18: and all the rest of it. So he seems to
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Speaker 18: in good health according to the doctor's clean bill that's
50:03
Speaker 18: been issued. Also, what's interesting is Trump this time, as
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Speaker 18: he did in the first term, requested a cognitive test,
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Speaker 18: even though that's not required and traditionally isn't done because
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Speaker 18: he loves to do it. He got thirty out of
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Speaker 18: thirty questions right, and he makes it a point to
50:16
Speaker 18: say that Biden never did that, others don't do that,
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Speaker 18: and he is very cognitively well and was very happy
50:22
Speaker 18: to do that test.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go. Still can't imagine it's going to
50:26
Speaker 5: silence the critics. Koshi Gata.
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Speaker 4: Great to see you, and that's all we have time
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Speaker 4: for tonight. Thanks for your company. I'll see you tomorrow
50:32
Speaker 4: at eight and don't mix the miss the next hour
50:35
Speaker 4: because he has Paul Murray with his pop test with
50:39
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