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Speaker 1: The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of I
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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey everybody, Welcome to The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast,
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Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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Speaker 1: about them. I am arial casting and with me as
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Speaker 1: always is my brilliant friend and co host Jonathan Strickland
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Speaker 1: Hay Ariel. Yes, Jonathan, I've got a question for you.
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Speaker 1: Do you have a movie or maybe a TV show
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Speaker 1: that you really like that you have heard other people
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Speaker 1: describe as bad? Yes, Van Helsing, you genuinely liked the
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Speaker 1: film Van Helsing. Yes, I genuinely like Van Helsing. Well,
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Speaker 1: it was Hugh Jackman in that Yes, he was. I
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Speaker 1: have never seen it. I remember the previews. He was
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Speaker 1: Gabriel Van Helsing and Kate Beckinsale was the love interest,
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Speaker 1: and then Regina Dracula Son Yes, yes, and we had
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Speaker 1: Richard Roxborough and David went hum you know it was
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Speaker 1: it was Dracula fighting Batman comedy and it's what I
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Speaker 1: wanted and it's what I got, And a lot of
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Speaker 1: people will say it wasn't the movie they wanted, kind
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Speaker 1: of like a lot of people aren't super big fans
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Speaker 1: of I guess it's not recent. Now do you give
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Speaker 1: extraordinary gentlemen with Sean Connery? Yes, thank you Sean Connery.
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Speaker 1: But you know, if you go in with lowered expectations,
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Speaker 1: then you can be pleasantly surprised. I actually owned Van Helsing.
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Speaker 1: Of course you do Dylan Dog Dead of Night, which
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Speaker 1: is way worse but equally fun. Okay, continue on, Well
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Speaker 1: would you like would you would you like to turn
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Speaker 1: the tables on me? Or yes I would? I was sorry.
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Speaker 1: I thought I had already asked you. I was so
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Speaker 1: excited about cheesy Dracula hunting. What is your favorite bad
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Speaker 1: movie or movie that you think is great that everybody
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Speaker 1: else does not? Well, this one, this one's kind of
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Speaker 1: unfair because it's throwing my wife under the bus. But
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Speaker 1: my wife once described Big Trouble in Little China as
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Speaker 1: a good bad movie, and I took umbradge at that
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Speaker 1: because I think of it as a fantastic, great movie.
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Speaker 1: There is no bad when it comes to Big Trouble
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Speaker 1: in Little China. You see, I didn't watch that until
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Speaker 1: later on in in my life, as in the last
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Speaker 1: ten years, so I would have to agree with your wife.
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Speaker 1: For me, it is a good bad movie. It might
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Speaker 1: have been great for its time, but because of the
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Speaker 1: era in which I watched it, see, I think of
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Speaker 1: it as a schlocky movie, but not a bad movie.
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Speaker 1: And and the reason why I asked this question, dear listeners,
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Speaker 1: is that in our second segment today, we'll be taking
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Speaker 1: more of a dive into what makes a good bad
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Speaker 1: movie versus a bad good movie, as in like a
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Speaker 1: bad big budget film or just a mediocre mess right, Like,
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Speaker 1: what what are the qualities that makes something special where
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Speaker 1: it is entertaining. Even if you could objectively say this
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Speaker 1: is bad, you cannot objectively say this is bad about
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Speaker 1: Big Trouble Little China, because that movie is freaking awesome.
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Speaker 1: And I swear if we can have a cinematic universe,
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Speaker 1: were Big Trouble and Little China and The Last Dragon
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Speaker 1: could coexist along with buck Rubanza, it would be the
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Speaker 1: best movie ever made. I am all I mean, I'm
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Speaker 1: all about that. I like all of those movies. I
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Speaker 1: would say Buckery Bonsai is probably the lowest on the
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Speaker 1: list of those three. For me, I can understand that
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Speaker 1: because I love that movie. John Lithgal makes that movie.
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Speaker 1: But we're getting off track. That movie has pacing issues, right, Like,
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Speaker 1: the last time I watched Buck Rubans, I was like, wow,
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Speaker 1: I forgot how many long slow segments of this movie
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Speaker 1: there are where like you're just waiting for something else
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Speaker 1: to happen, and if you're not like really engaged, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna nod off. Um. But whenever John Lithgal is on
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Speaker 1: the screen, he's phenomenal. Who's a laugh And now Monkey
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Speaker 1: Boy is still one of my favorite movie quotes of
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Speaker 1: all time. But let's get on to our first segment.
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Speaker 1: What is this first segment called Ariel? Well, this first
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Speaker 1: segment is called get to Know Jonathan. We are taking
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Speaker 1: a break from the news this week. Uh, and we're
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Speaker 1: going to get to know our beloved friend Jonathan here.
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Speaker 1: Hey that's me, I'm Jonathan. Yes, my life's an open book.
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Speaker 1: What do you want to know? Okay, So if your
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Speaker 1: life's an open book, let's start with some a real easy,
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Speaker 1: like a slow ball, like, what is your favorite book? Uh?
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Speaker 1: So my favorite book would very likely I think I'd
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Speaker 1: have to answer the hobbit. Um. I've got a lot
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Speaker 1: of books that I absolutely adore. Good Omens by Terry Pratchett,
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Speaker 1: and Neil Gaiman is one of my favorites. Hitchhiker's Guide
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Speaker 1: to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams another one. But The
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Speaker 1: Hobbit by Tolkien was probably the book that really got
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Speaker 1: me into the fantasy genre so much so that I
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Speaker 1: have a Lord the Lord of the Rings inspired tattoo
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Speaker 1: on my left arm, So I'm gonna go with that.
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Speaker 1: And and I like The Hobbit for what it is.
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Speaker 1: I think of it as a fairy tale. Uh. It's
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Speaker 1: why I didn't love the trilogy of movies based on
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Speaker 1: The Hobbit, because I felt like it was trying to
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Speaker 1: turn the Hobbit into something that it's not. It was
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Speaker 1: trying to go from fairy tale to epic fantasy to
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Speaker 1: more closely match what we saw with Lord of the Rings.
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Speaker 1: But that's why it didn't work for me, because that's
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Speaker 1: not what the book is. I would have to agree.
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Speaker 1: Is The Hobbit and and Lord of the Rings something
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Speaker 1: you read as a child or is it something that
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Speaker 1: you discovered as more of an adult. So The Hobbit
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Speaker 1: was the first long book I could long quote unquote
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Speaker 1: book I can remember reading as a kid. I essentially
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Speaker 1: went from there's a monster at the end of this
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Speaker 1: book with Grover straight to the Hobbit. There's actually a
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Speaker 1: crayon picture I drew when I was four that I
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Speaker 1: have somewhere in this house. It's in a frame that
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Speaker 1: says Gallum in the Ring, drawn by Jonathan aged four.
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Speaker 1: So I yeah, I read The Hobbit early, early, early on.
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Speaker 1: I remember, or I seem to remember, And I could
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Speaker 1: be wrong about this because memory is a tricky thing.
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Speaker 1: That my parents told me I could watch the cartoon
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Speaker 1: of the Hobbit if I read the book first, and
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Speaker 1: so I did. Um, And so I read it as
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Speaker 1: a very young child. I tried reading Lord of the
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Speaker 1: Rings when I was in middle school or high school,
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Speaker 1: and I remember I tried two times, and I stopped
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Speaker 1: midway through the two Towers, essentially at the siege at
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Speaker 1: Helm's Deep, and I could not get past it. Like
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Speaker 1: I just got to a point where I put the
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Speaker 1: book down and I just never came back to pick
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Speaker 1: it back up. And by the time I finally wanted
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Speaker 1: to try it again, I had forgotten everything. So I
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Speaker 1: had to start back over. Um. So it was only
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Speaker 1: on my third time reading The Lord of the Rings
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Speaker 1: that I actually got all the way through. I have
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Speaker 1: since reread that several times, and I've read the Samarillian
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Speaker 1: as well. So Two Towers is definitely the most difficult
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Speaker 1: of the books to get through. I would say, so,
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Speaker 1: are you are you more of a fantasy guy or
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Speaker 1: sci fi guy? You said, since you have such a
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Speaker 1: love for Lord of the Rings. Yeah, I would say
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Speaker 1: that I'm probably more fantasy than science fiction throughout most
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Speaker 1: of my life. I would say that I've leaned harder
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Speaker 1: into science fiction over the last maybe five or six years,
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Speaker 1: but definitely when I was growing up, my interest was
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Speaker 1: more in fantasy Tolkien, Lloyd Alexander, Pierce, Anthony, although that
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Speaker 1: more than a little problematic in retrospect. I didn't realize
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Speaker 1: it at the time, but as an adult I definitely
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Speaker 1: see it. Uh, Robert Asprin, these are all authors that
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Speaker 1: I read, Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman um, so I
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Speaker 1: was really into that. And then it's been more in
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Speaker 1: recent years I've been sort of gravitating more towards science
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Speaker 1: fiction than fantasy, largely because I think, uh, there are
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Speaker 1: too many fantasy authors who are not good, and they
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Speaker 1: fall into the same sort of tropes where you feel
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Speaker 1: like everyone is just kind of a a copy of
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Speaker 1: a copy of a copy of Tolkien, so you know,
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Speaker 1: they don't really stand out so well. Um, I will
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Speaker 1: say that there was one point where I was kind
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Speaker 1: of drafting out an idea for a book of my own,
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Speaker 1: and that is a book that would be in the
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Speaker 1: fantasy genre. If I ever write it, it'll be a
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Speaker 1: fantasy book. I s par you do, because I would
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Speaker 1: love to read it. So you mentioned reading fantasy is
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Speaker 1: a very very young child, and I know your dad
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Speaker 1: is an author, and you went to a lot of
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Speaker 1: conventions because of that cross section of your life. What
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Speaker 1: is the earliest convention you can remember? Oh, I remember, Okay,
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Speaker 1: my memory is terrible as far as figuring out which
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Speaker 1: bits are earliest, But I went to there was a
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Speaker 1: convention that predated dragon Con called the Atlanta Fantasy Fair,
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Speaker 1: and it was sort of the big science fiction fantasy
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Speaker 1: convention in Atlanta before dragon Con became a thing. And
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Speaker 1: I remember going to that and their costume contest was
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Speaker 1: one of the pivotal events of the entire convention. And
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Speaker 1: my mom loved making costumes for me and my sister,
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Speaker 1: and so we were entered into the costume contest pretty
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Speaker 1: much every single year, and I think the very first
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Speaker 1: costume I ever wore to one of those, and I
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Speaker 1: won the children's category was Et the Extraterrestrial. I was
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Speaker 1: the little squat et Uh. I look like a giant
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Speaker 1: plush et doll and um and uh and I won that.
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Speaker 1: My sister one best of show for the entire masquerade.
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Speaker 1: She was uh the female Guilfling from the Dark Crystal
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Speaker 1: uh Kira. I think I can't remember her name, but
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Speaker 1: she had a little fizz gig puppet on her hand. Um.
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Speaker 1: So that's the earliest I remember. But we also would
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Speaker 1: go to like Star Trek conventions, and there was another
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Speaker 1: smaller Atlantic co mintion called Phoenix con we would go to.
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Speaker 1: So I went to a lot of these and it
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Speaker 1: was really cool experience, like as one of those things
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Speaker 1: where to me it was just normal because that's how
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Speaker 1: I grew up. But again as an adult, I can
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Speaker 1: look back on that and say like, wow, that was
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Speaker 1: a really special time. That sounds like a really special time,
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Speaker 1: and it's great to have those kind of memories. So
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Speaker 1: was it a transition of going to the conventions? Is
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Speaker 1: that how you got into the Georgia Renaissance Festival. Because
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Speaker 1: we've talked about we both worked at Georgia Renaissance Festival.
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Speaker 1: Is that you went to the conventions, you went to
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Speaker 1: the Red Fest, you said, hey, I want to do this,
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Speaker 1: or how did you get involved there? So I first
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Speaker 1: went to the Renaissance Festival when I was a kid. Now,
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Speaker 1: Ariel and I worked at the Renaissance Festival where it's
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Speaker 1: at its current location, but before that, it was in
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Speaker 1: a slightly smaller site that was just down the road
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Speaker 1: from where it is now. This doesn't mean anything to
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Speaker 1: anyone who's note in Georgia, but but it was a
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Speaker 1: smaller site. It was in like this little wooded area,
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Speaker 1: and I remember going and thinking it was fantastic. We
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Speaker 1: saw stage shows. I remember Zilch, the Tory Stellar, and
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Speaker 1: I remember the mud show players and all these sorts
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Speaker 1: of fun characters, and I thought it was really enchanting.
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Speaker 1: But that was about it. And then I was at
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Speaker 1: Dragon Con and I was in a production of a
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Speaker 1: show called Romeo and Ethel the Pirates Daughter. And this
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Speaker 1: was the version of it before you did it, Ariel,
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Speaker 1: Because you were in one of those two, right, you
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Speaker 1: were in the second one. I was. I was in
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Speaker 1: the reiteration of it. Yes, so this was in the
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Speaker 1: original one where I was playing a character named Byron
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Speaker 1: all the sailors in our Our Little Story, which was
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Speaker 1: a one off joke in Shakespeare in Love, and the
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Speaker 1: actress who was playing the spirit arial Uh was Val
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Speaker 1: and Val would go on she was also working at
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Speaker 1: the Renisance Festival, and she would go on to become
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Speaker 1: an entertainment director there. But she told me while we
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Speaker 1: were in rehearsals for this show about the auditions for
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Speaker 1: the Renaissance Festival. And back then the Renaissance Festival had
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Speaker 1: a fall season in a spring season, so I auditioned
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Speaker 1: for the fall season, and um, I was told that
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Speaker 1: I was one of just a few people who had
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Speaker 1: ever auditioned, and immediately got high fired. I didn't have
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Speaker 1: to do a callback or anything. They hired me on
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Speaker 1: the spot, and they gave me the choice of playing
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Speaker 1: either the town doctor or the town mayor, and I
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Speaker 1: thought mayor outranks doctor, so I picked him, and that
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Speaker 1: that began my career at the Georgia Renaissance Festival. And
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Speaker 1: that was, oh golly, that seems forever ago. Your mayor,
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Speaker 1: by the way, was hilarious, part of the reason I
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Speaker 1: joined the Renaissance Festival. So the other thing I want
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Speaker 1: to ask you about is horror movies. You love horror?
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Speaker 1: I uh, And I guess it harkens back to when
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Speaker 1: you said the first book you remember reading as a
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Speaker 1: monster at the end of this book, because I guess
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Speaker 1: it would be a very infantile child introduction to horror,
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Speaker 1: even though it's got a happy ending. So when did
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Speaker 1: you decide that you liked horror? What is your favorite
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Speaker 1: bad horror movie? And what is your favorite good horror? Oh? Man,
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Speaker 1: those are some good questions. So I think I got
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Speaker 1: into horror when I was probably probably around twelve or thirteen,
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Speaker 1: which is about I think the average age for most
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Speaker 1: horror fans. Um. I just was one of those things where,
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Speaker 1: for one thing, it seemed like it was forbidden, right
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Speaker 1: because horror movies were the types of things that would
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Speaker 1: come on late, you know, after your bedtime normally, So
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Speaker 1: there was that sort of allure that this is something
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Speaker 1: outside of what you're supposed to experience. But I also
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Speaker 1: just found it fascinating. And I mean as a kid,
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Speaker 1: I remember there were certain movies that as an adult,
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Speaker 1: they aren't scary to me at all, but as a kid,
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Speaker 1: that really messed me up. Um. But if we're talking
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Speaker 1: about my favorite bad horror movie and my favorite good
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Speaker 1: horror movie, my favorite bad horror movie, ah, this is
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Speaker 1: a hard one. Uh. I'm gonna say Dr. Giggles, which
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Speaker 1: I think I've only seen one time, but I remember
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Speaker 1: loving how truly terrible a horror movie it is. It
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Speaker 1: was a slasher film, And I remember that I had
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Speaker 1: uh buttons that were promotional buttons at these science fiction conventions.
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Speaker 1: One of the things that you used to be able
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Speaker 1: to get where all these freebees that movie movie companies
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Speaker 1: would put out to promote upcoming films. And I had
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Speaker 1: a huge collection of buttons from various movies. And I
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Speaker 1: remember there were two for Dr Giggles where it said
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Speaker 1: the doctor is in and then written next to it
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Speaker 1: was sane, So Insane, and the other ones the doctor
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Speaker 1: is out and the written next to it was of
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Speaker 1: his mind and m Dr Giggles is a really dumb
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Speaker 1: slasher horror film that I loved. As for good horror movies,
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Speaker 1: there are so many, But if I have to pick one,
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Speaker 1: like a truly phenomenal horror movie, it's the Witch or
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Speaker 1: The the Vich if you prefer that one is spectacular.
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Speaker 1: It is an incredible film as as someone who also
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Speaker 1: loves Shakespeare. It has a a Shakespearean kind of of
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Speaker 1: gravitas and the lang, which helps a lot with that
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Speaker 1: because it's very a period realistic language, and it is
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Speaker 1: just a phenomenal film. And it stars uh the the
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Speaker 1: Queen's Gamba actress, who was also Yeah, she's she's amazing minute.
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Speaker 1: She's so young and so good, and she makes me
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Speaker 1: so mad because she's so good. Yeah, I can't feel that.
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Speaker 1: Antonia Taylor Joy, Yes, I should know her name by now.
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Speaker 1: She is, she's she's killing it. She was also recently
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Speaker 1: in a bad horror movie, The New Mutants. Yes, I
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Speaker 1: hear that she was giving a really terrible accent in
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Speaker 1: that film. You know, I haven't watched it. Maybe maybe
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Speaker 1: i'll watch it when I'm really bored on demand one day.
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Speaker 1: So do you tend towards slasher films over suspense or
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Speaker 1: actually I prefer supernatural horror that involves lots of tension.
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Speaker 1: I actually think those are much better. Like. Another great
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Speaker 1: film that I love is The Changeling, which was a
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Speaker 1: nineteen eight d film with George C. Scott or The
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Speaker 1: Exorcist three, which is not at all really related. I
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Speaker 1: mean it is somewhat related to the first Exorcist movie,
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Speaker 1: not at all related to Exorcist too. Um. Both of
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Speaker 1: those are incredible at at cranking up tension, but they're
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Speaker 1: not They both kind of go off the rails towards
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Speaker 1: the very end of the movie, which is unfortunate. But
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Speaker 1: from most of the film they're just really good at
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Speaker 1: making you feel very tense and wondering is this tension
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Speaker 1: ever going to be relieved? And I love movies like
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Speaker 1: that that can have you feel that sort of thing.
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Speaker 1: To me, a slasher film is just dumb fun Most
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Speaker 1: of the time. In a slasher film, what you're left
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Speaker 1: wondering is in what order are your protagonists going to die?
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Speaker 1: And how are they going to do it? Yeah, i'd
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Speaker 1: agree with that. I just watched Screen for the first
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Speaker 1: time this year, and that that was what I spent
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Speaker 1: the entire movie asking, so well, that one, That one
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Speaker 1: is also a deconstruction of the slasher genre, right like
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Speaker 1: that was. Scream was a commentary on slasher films and
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Speaker 1: sort of almost a parody of them, and that was
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Speaker 1: what I found so entertaining about Scream was that it
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Speaker 1: was being very smart about how dumb slasher films are.
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Speaker 1: So would you say that was a good movie, a
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Speaker 1: good bad movie, or a bad good scream? Scream was
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Speaker 1: good good? Yeah. No, the first Scream is the first
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Speaker 1: Scream is a genuinely good movie. The sequels less. So
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Speaker 1: got you. Well, thank you for letting me interview you
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Speaker 1: and letting all of our listeners learn a little bit
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Speaker 1: more about you and the geek that you are. We're
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Speaker 1: going to take a quick break, and then when we
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Speaker 1: come back, we're going to talk about some movies that
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Speaker 1: are good bad or bad good? Okay, Ariel, can you
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Speaker 1: define for me what it means to you for a
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Speaker 1: movie to be a good bad movie? What does that
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Speaker 1: mean to you? I don't know, So there's so many
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Speaker 1: different definitions of that. So I guess when you initially
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Speaker 1: say a good bad movie, that is a movie that
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Speaker 1: is so bad that it is enjoyable to watch. Usually,
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Speaker 1: to me, those are movies that people tried really hard
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Speaker 1: to make a good movie and it just failed. But
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Speaker 1: all of that passion and all of that drive to
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Speaker 1: deliver entertainment is still there. I will say there are
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Speaker 1: a couple of movies to me that we're intentionally written
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Speaker 1: poorly or set satirically, that are also quite fun fun
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Speaker 1: to watch. But that's much harder to pull off. And
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Speaker 1: that's when you veer into a whether it's a good
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Speaker 1: bad movie or a bad good movie. Because if they're
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Speaker 1: trying to make a bad movie good and it fails,
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Speaker 1: is this whole conundrum. What about you? What is a
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Speaker 1: What is a good bad movie? To you? I think
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Speaker 1: I pretty much agree with you. I think pretty much
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Speaker 1: I'm qualifying this a lot. I agree with you. I
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Speaker 1: think I think a good bad movie is a movie
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Speaker 1: that fails, on typically a spectacular level, to deliver what
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Speaker 1: they set out to do. But it wasn't intentional like
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Speaker 1: it it was due to the limitations of the filmmakers.
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Speaker 1: It might be due to the limitations of their equipment
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Speaker 1: or their expertise with using the equipment. It might be
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Speaker 1: due to the limitations of their acting ability of the cast, um,
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Speaker 1: it might be all. It might be a collection of
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Speaker 1: these factors. It might be terrible editing where you're watching
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Speaker 1: the movie and you're constantly asking what's going on because
20:39
Speaker 1: the sequence doesn't seem to be following like you're not
20:42
Speaker 1: able to logically go from scene to scene to scene.
20:45
Speaker 1: These are all things to me that make a good
20:47
Speaker 1: bad movie where you can have fun watching it, and
20:52
Speaker 1: it's not even necessarily mean spirited. It's just it's just
20:56
Speaker 1: just the amazement of how bad it is. I think
20:59
Speaker 1: of THEO Whom when I finally saw because Ariel, you
21:02
Speaker 1: saw the Room a whole bunch of times before I
21:04
Speaker 1: ever saw it. I did. I have matching t shirts
21:07
Speaker 1: with a few of my friends that are the Golden
21:09
Speaker 1: gate Bridge. When we line up, we make the Golden
21:12
Speaker 1: gate Bridge says go go go across the back because
21:14
Speaker 1: I saw it in theaters with a bunch of people, uh,
21:17
Speaker 1: sort of as an interactive experience, similar to going to
21:20
Speaker 1: see Rocky Horror Picture show. Yeah yeah and see. To me,
21:24
Speaker 1: like that's that. That is the epitome of a good
21:28
Speaker 1: bad movie, because that movie is, by any objective standard,
21:31
Speaker 1: a bad movie. Characters have terrible motivation, there's horrible dialogue.
21:37
Speaker 1: I mean, the the actual technical expertise of the film
21:40
Speaker 1: crew seems to be fine, because it's not like the
21:43
Speaker 1: camera angles are weird or that the sound is bad.
21:46
Speaker 1: But a couple of times the sound is not great. Yeah,
21:49
Speaker 1: and and there are ridiculous sequences shot on a sound
21:53
Speaker 1: stage that could have just as easily been shot on location. Uh, which,
21:58
Speaker 1: really you find out the reason of that is because Tommyzzoh,
22:01
Speaker 1: the filmmaker, wanted his movie to be a quote unquote
22:05
Speaker 1: real movie, and real movies were shot on sound stages,
22:07
Speaker 1: not in the world. And uh, you know, it's just
22:11
Speaker 1: it's it's such a weird film that I was just
22:15
Speaker 1: constantly saying to the screen out loud, what and uh,
22:22
Speaker 1: much to the amusement of the three other people I
22:24
Speaker 1: was with, all of whom had seen the film before.
22:27
Speaker 1: Um and and but that as a genuine, good, bad film.
22:30
Speaker 1: Another one I would argue that a lot of people
22:32
Speaker 1: will think of as trolls to Trolls Too is ridiculously awful.
22:38
Speaker 1: Like it is hard to put into words how bad
22:42
Speaker 1: Trolls Too is, but it's wildly entertaining. I will admit
22:47
Speaker 1: I've only seen bits and pieces of troll To where
22:49
Speaker 1: the person is eating corn. Yes, I believe I should
22:53
Speaker 1: say troll to. I said trolls to, not like the characters,
22:56
Speaker 1: not like the little cartoon. I mean troll To, not
23:00
Speaker 1: the one with the bacary Brothers in right, not not
23:03
Speaker 1: Trolls World Tour, although the macaroy brothers were introll too,
23:07
Speaker 1: that would be pretty phenomenal. Yeah, yeah, No, I couldn't
23:10
Speaker 1: tell you what the eating corn pertained to. But I
23:13
Speaker 1: think the reason that I made it through the room
23:15
Speaker 1: as many times as I did and I didn't make
23:17
Speaker 1: it through Troll too, is because I watched the room
23:21
Speaker 1: with a group of people who could commiserate in the
23:24
Speaker 1: badness with me. I feel like that is integral when
23:26
Speaker 1: you're watching either a movie that is intentionally bad and
23:32
Speaker 1: well done, or a movie that was meant to be
23:34
Speaker 1: well done and it's just really really bad. That's that's
23:36
Speaker 1: the whole premise behind Mystery Science Theater three thousand. When
23:40
Speaker 1: I when I saw Troll two, I thought for the
23:43
Speaker 1: first time, Uh, it was for another show called Podcast
23:47
Speaker 1: Without Pretense, where we had all decided that we were
23:50
Speaker 1: going to watch terrible movies on Netflix and see how
23:54
Speaker 1: far we could get into them without having any distractions,
23:56
Speaker 1: because all of us realized that we had all gotten
23:59
Speaker 1: into the habit of having something on but also like
24:02
Speaker 1: looking at our phones or on a computer or something,
24:05
Speaker 1: so you're not really paying attention, and we said, let's
24:08
Speaker 1: try and dedicate our full focus to things that do
24:12
Speaker 1: not deserve it and see see how far we can get.
24:15
Speaker 1: And so we picked troll Too. I think that might
24:17
Speaker 1: have even been our first movie that we ever picked.
24:19
Speaker 1: And I started it up, thinking, you know, I had
24:22
Speaker 1: never seen it before the movie starts and I'm like, oh,
24:25
Speaker 1: you know what, I have seen some of this before,
24:27
Speaker 1: but I think it's only like the first five minutes.
24:30
Speaker 1: First five minutes goes by. Get into the second five minutes,
24:32
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I've seen this too. And I kept
24:35
Speaker 1: waiting for the moment where I could say, oh, that's
24:38
Speaker 1: where I left off until the movie ended and I
24:41
Speaker 1: realized I had actually already seen the thing all the
24:44
Speaker 1: way through, but had wiped it from my mind. Wow. Wow,
24:49
Speaker 1: that's intense. Now do you like, I know you like
24:55
Speaker 1: Mystery Science Theater three thousand, you like the room controlled
24:58
Speaker 1: to What about movies that are intentionally bad like Shark
25:01
Speaker 1: Nado or The FP or I'm gonna say Veloci pastor.
25:06
Speaker 1: I actually don't know whether that one was just bad
25:08
Speaker 1: or super low budget. I'm guessing the former. So I
25:13
Speaker 1: think you hit upon it when you were describing good
25:16
Speaker 1: bad movies where you talked about if you are intentionally
25:20
Speaker 1: making something bad but with the goal of being entertaining,
25:26
Speaker 1: that is way harder, I think than making something that's
25:29
Speaker 1: good and entertaining. I think it's actually easier to make
25:32
Speaker 1: a good entertaining thing than a bad entertaining thing, because
25:36
Speaker 1: you're more likely to make something that either doesn't come
25:39
Speaker 1: across as genuine. So you're like, well, yeah, we could
25:42
Speaker 1: all get in front of the camera and do a
25:45
Speaker 1: really crappy job, but that doesn't make it good. That
25:49
Speaker 1: doesn't make it entertaining. Um, you know, you you have
25:53
Speaker 1: to be able to craft that in a way that
25:56
Speaker 1: makes it good. I think of certain things like the
25:58
Speaker 1: play Noises Off right. Noises Off as a play within
26:03
Speaker 1: a play, and there is a section where the actors
26:07
Speaker 1: in that play within a play are actively trying to
26:10
Speaker 1: sabotage one another while a performance is going So things
26:14
Speaker 1: are going wrong, but they have to go wrong in
26:16
Speaker 1: exactly the right way, and that's where the comedy is.
26:20
Speaker 1: And if anyone messes up, if they mess up messing up,
26:24
Speaker 1: the jokes don't work. So it's like it's like the
26:26
Speaker 1: most well timed magic trick, really and there are other
26:32
Speaker 1: examples of this, the Play That Goes Wrong or the
26:35
Speaker 1: Goes Wrong show, those are based on that same premise.
26:40
Speaker 1: Sometimes it works, like I would say that there are
26:43
Speaker 1: certain bad things that were made to be bad that
26:47
Speaker 1: work and they are entertaining, and there are others that
26:50
Speaker 1: it just feels so lazy and so designed by committee
26:55
Speaker 1: that I actually find it distracting and distress full, Like
27:00
Speaker 1: Shark Nado is a great example. I think the Shark
27:02
Speaker 1: Nado films in general are so lazy and sloppy and
27:08
Speaker 1: done with a complete lack of respect for the audience
27:12
Speaker 1: that it comes through as being just a cheap um
27:16
Speaker 1: cash grab. And they're not like they're bad, and they're
27:22
Speaker 1: laughably bad in the sense that the stuff that's happening
27:25
Speaker 1: doesn't make any logical sense. But you realize that that
27:27
Speaker 1: was something that was decided upon. It didn't just happen
27:31
Speaker 1: because the limitations of the filmmaking process. It happened because
27:35
Speaker 1: someone decided, Hey, let's do it this way, because won't
27:38
Speaker 1: that be funny at how bad it is? And when
27:41
Speaker 1: it's done that way, it just doesn't The magic's gone. Yeah,
27:46
Speaker 1: I could agree with you there. I I think for
27:49
Speaker 1: it goes back to the passion thing again. If you're
27:51
Speaker 1: making a movie to be laughably bad just to hey,
27:54
Speaker 1: people like bad movies, let's make a bad movie, then
27:57
Speaker 1: it doesn't have that extra little something I going back
28:01
Speaker 1: to the Room. I watched The Disaster Artist, which is
28:03
Speaker 1: a movie about the making of the Room with James Franco,
28:07
Speaker 1: and it had this really you came out of that
28:11
Speaker 1: movie going, man, this was a train wreck, but the
28:16
Speaker 1: people really tried, And so at the same time that
28:20
Speaker 1: I'm laughing at it, I almost feel bad because of
28:23
Speaker 1: how much heart the person put into it. So I
28:25
Speaker 1: feel a little conflicted with the bad movies. But it's
28:27
Speaker 1: it's always the ones like that that become cult classics
28:31
Speaker 1: that I'm most happy for as well, because they're able
28:34
Speaker 1: to find joy and and acceptance in this thing that
28:38
Speaker 1: they poured their heart into. And I just don't get
28:41
Speaker 1: the same heart in shark Nado. Yeah. Yeah, well and
28:44
Speaker 1: and and like you said, like it is, I mean
28:48
Speaker 1: it's it is frustrating for an artist for their work
28:52
Speaker 1: to be uh enjoyed in a way they had not anticipated, right, like,
28:57
Speaker 1: especially especially in a way where people are making fun
29:00
Speaker 1: of it or laughing at it. When you were trying
29:02
Speaker 1: to make something serious that I'm sure is a big
29:05
Speaker 1: blow to an artist's ego. However, there's another potential outcome
29:13
Speaker 1: that's even worse, which is where you get the mediocre
29:16
Speaker 1: film where there's nothing entertaining about it at all, where
29:20
Speaker 1: it's not well made, but it's also not entertaining, and
29:23
Speaker 1: you just feel like you've wasted your time and your
29:25
Speaker 1: board to tears and you've you've got nothing really substantive
29:30
Speaker 1: to say about it. That's the worst outcome, right, So
29:35
Speaker 1: there are outcomes that where you walk away and you're like,
29:39
Speaker 1: I can't believe I spent my time seeing that there
29:42
Speaker 1: was a There was a Genclaude van Damn film. It
29:46
Speaker 1: was one of those martial arts tournament style films, and
29:50
Speaker 1: I can't even remember the title of it now, but
29:52
Speaker 1: I remember I got a free pass to go and
29:54
Speaker 1: see it when I was in college in Athens, Georgia.
29:56
Speaker 1: So I go with a friend of mine. We go
29:58
Speaker 1: and we get to see it for free, and at
30:01
Speaker 1: the end of the movie, we sat there and thought,
30:04
Speaker 1: I almost want to ask for my money back, except
30:06
Speaker 1: I didn't pay for anything to see this film. You know.
30:10
Speaker 1: I felt that way about some films too. I felt
30:11
Speaker 1: that way about Sucker Punch, and it's highly contested among
30:15
Speaker 1: my friends, But that movie I just walked out of
30:17
Speaker 1: saying no, not for me. Yeah, it was close to
30:21
Speaker 1: Southland's tale about bad for Me. I've got a lot
30:23
Speaker 1: of friends who feel the same way about both of
30:25
Speaker 1: those movies, so that they also share your opinion, is
30:29
Speaker 1: what I mean. I have not seen either of those.
30:32
Speaker 1: We have a few on our list we didn't really cover,
30:35
Speaker 1: and we're going to conclude this discussion, but we just
30:37
Speaker 1: wanted to mention, like some of the ones will probably
30:40
Speaker 1: talk about in a subsequent episode where we talk about
30:42
Speaker 1: stuff like nostalgia, because some of these movies that are
30:45
Speaker 1: the good bad or bad good movies are also trying
30:48
Speaker 1: to tap into nostalgia as a means of connecting with
30:52
Speaker 1: the audience. So I would argue the FP falls into
30:55
Speaker 1: that category. But I thought the FP was genuinely entertaining,
30:59
Speaker 1: just really really strange. I thought it was more strange
31:01
Speaker 1: than bad. But it did go super schlocky, like schlocky bad,
31:07
Speaker 1: I guess, and I believe purposefully so. Yes, Turbo Kid
31:11
Speaker 1: the same way Turbo Kid was over the top schlocky. Uh,
31:15
Speaker 1: and really hitting on the nostalgia as well. But but
31:19
Speaker 1: there also seemed to be a genuine sincerity two the
31:24
Speaker 1: narrative under the story, right, Like I get that with
31:27
Speaker 1: the FP as well. Like in both of those, you
31:30
Speaker 1: look at it and you think this is something that
31:34
Speaker 1: someone wanted to make as opposed to I pitched this
31:38
Speaker 1: idea in a pitch meeting where we were just throwing
31:41
Speaker 1: spaghetti against the wall and this one strand happened a stick,
31:44
Speaker 1: and now I have to make it. That's the way
31:45
Speaker 1: I feel about the Asylum movies is the Asylum movies
31:47
Speaker 1: to me, I feel like they were made in a quick,
31:51
Speaker 1: cash grab, opportunistic way. Uh And and that's bared out
31:56
Speaker 1: I think a lot by the fact that most of
31:58
Speaker 1: the Asylum films are are cheap knockoffs of big budget movies. Yeah,
32:05
Speaker 1: you know, Kung Fury is another one that that banks
32:08
Speaker 1: on your nostalgia but is purposefully bad. And I know
32:13
Speaker 1: many friends would say it Mrs the Mark. For me,
32:15
Speaker 1: I think my my favorite bad movies are things like
32:18
Speaker 1: Hudson Hawk or Howard the Duck because they do play
32:20
Speaker 1: on that there schlocky. They play on my nostalgia factor
32:24
Speaker 1: and they're just fun. It seems like everybody had fun
32:26
Speaker 1: making them. Yeah, I don't know how far I can
32:31
Speaker 1: go with you on Howard the Duck. That movie. That
32:35
Speaker 1: movie I hated since And that movie came out when
32:37
Speaker 1: I was a kid, and I've hated it on my
32:39
Speaker 1: entire life. Um, but Hudson Hogg. I saw that film
32:44
Speaker 1: long after there was the whole like hoopla about it
32:49
Speaker 1: being the worst movie of all time. You know, whenever
32:50
Speaker 1: a movie comes out that doesn't meet people's expectations, it
32:54
Speaker 1: immediately gets branded as the worst of all time, right,
32:56
Speaker 1: and Hudson Hawk had been listen as one of those
32:59
Speaker 1: contenders for the worst movie of all time. When I
33:01
Speaker 1: finally saw it, I thought, this is what people were saying. Listen,
33:05
Speaker 1: I have seen way worse than this, And and uh like,
33:10
Speaker 1: Hudson Hawk at times is genuinely entertaining. There are segments
33:15
Speaker 1: of Hudson Hawk that are either cringe worthy or just
33:19
Speaker 1: like you just want to turn it off. But it's
33:23
Speaker 1: nowhere near the worst movie of all time, and it
33:26
Speaker 1: does manage to be quite entertaining through much of it.
33:29
Speaker 1: So it goes It goes back to my Van Helsing
33:32
Speaker 1: statement of if you go in with lowered expectations, You're
33:35
Speaker 1: going to be pleasantly surprised. Yes, And on that note,
33:38
Speaker 1: please lower your expectations. After this break, we'll be coming
33:42
Speaker 1: back with a mash up. Okay, it's mash up time.
34:01
Speaker 1: What to properties are we taking to make something new
34:05
Speaker 1: out of? Well, we are taking Masters of the Universe,
34:09
Speaker 1: which is a he Man movie, not the same exactly
34:12
Speaker 1: as the cartoon, but still and kill Bill excellent. Do
34:18
Speaker 1: you want to go first or do you want me
34:20
Speaker 1: to go first? I? Well, do we want to explain
34:22
Speaker 1: what kill Bill is? If anybody doesn't know, I'll take
34:28
Speaker 1: I'll take one. Which one do you want to take?
34:29
Speaker 1: I'll be glad to take the other one. I'll take
34:32
Speaker 1: Masters of the Universe. Okay, go for it. Okay. So
34:35
Speaker 1: Masters of the Universe is this seven movie based on
34:40
Speaker 1: he Man. It doesn't really follow the Heman cartoon the
34:45
Speaker 1: timeline exactly. It's got some it's got some of the
34:48
Speaker 1: same characters and similar through lines, but it's got some
34:51
Speaker 1: of its own characters. It starts Dolf Loundgren, and when
34:56
Speaker 1: Dolph was in this movie, he actually had to learn
34:59
Speaker 1: English to play the part of Heman. You learned English.
35:03
Speaker 1: For this movie, it's schlocky, it's bad. It's got Courtney
35:08
Speaker 1: Cox in it, who's an orphan because her parents died
35:10
Speaker 1: in a plane crash. Got Billy Barty in it. It's
35:14
Speaker 1: got Billy Barty in it. Is Gwildor, who is a
35:18
Speaker 1: special character for this movie. It's just it's all over
35:21
Speaker 1: the place. But it's so bad it's good. And that's
35:24
Speaker 1: saying something for he Man because the Hemane cartoon itself
35:28
Speaker 1: was made to sell toys. Yes, it was not by
35:32
Speaker 1: any means any sort of high brown brow entertainment animation
35:36
Speaker 1: could be true art he Man was not it alright, Okay,
35:40
Speaker 1: so what about Killed Bill? Killed Bill? It's a Quentin
35:42
Speaker 1: Tarantino pair of movies, Volume one and volume two, and
35:45
Speaker 1: it tells us the story of the bride, whose name
35:48
Speaker 1: is revealed at the end. But just in case you
35:50
Speaker 1: haven't seen the movie, I'm not going to spoil it
35:51
Speaker 1: for you, and uh it's It opens up with her
35:56
Speaker 1: being shot on the floor of a church and she survives,
36:02
Speaker 1: and when she wakes up after a coma after four years,
36:06
Speaker 1: she is determined to hunt down her assailants and knock
36:10
Speaker 1: them off one by one and as you watch the movie,
36:12
Speaker 1: you learned that she is one of a group of
36:15
Speaker 1: elite assassins all had with nicknames that that or code
36:20
Speaker 1: names that came after different types of snakes, except for Bill,
36:23
Speaker 1: who is the leader of the group, and so she
36:26
Speaker 1: is out to kill Bill for what he did to her. Uh,
36:30
Speaker 1: there are a lot more details than that, but that's
36:32
Speaker 1: really all you need to know. Oh, I guess I
36:35
Speaker 1: didn't go over the plot of of he then I
36:38
Speaker 1: don't really think you need to. It is to explain
36:40
Speaker 1: the plot of Masters of the Universe would be crazy.
36:45
Speaker 1: There's a there's a magic key and the good guys
36:47
Speaker 1: need to get it before the bad guys can use it. Yeah,
36:50
Speaker 1: and they go to Earth and then they go back
36:52
Speaker 1: to Attorney. Okay, that's all you need to know. Okay,
36:54
Speaker 1: so I'm going to start. Okay, so this is kill Scale.
36:58
Speaker 1: So for kill Scale, we have to start a while
37:00
Speaker 1: back back when he Man was a member of Skeletor's crew,
37:03
Speaker 1: when Skeletor was new to ATTORNEYA that you didn't know
37:06
Speaker 1: that was a thing, but it is. For this he
37:09
Speaker 1: Man got tired of Skeletor always trying to take over
37:12
Speaker 1: all of the power of the universe and decided to
37:14
Speaker 1: change actions, joining up with pro Attorney a Fellows, Tela,
37:17
Speaker 1: and Man at Arms. He quickly falls in love with
37:20
Speaker 1: Tila and they decided to get married, and this infuriates Skeletor,
37:23
Speaker 1: who tries to kill he Man. However, he only exceeds
37:26
Speaker 1: in knocking him out and sends him to a different
37:27
Speaker 1: planet Earth. When he Man awakes, he's in this strange
37:30
Speaker 1: place Earth. Mad that he has been sent to this
37:34
Speaker 1: horrible land far away from his love, he searches for revenge.
37:38
Speaker 1: He comes across beast Man following a trail of shed
37:41
Speaker 1: it fur and threatens to beat him up to get
37:43
Speaker 1: a clue on how to get home and get revenge.
37:45
Speaker 1: Beast Man caves and tells him that he must learn
37:48
Speaker 1: the five point cosmic key pudge to defeat Skeletor once
37:51
Speaker 1: and for all. But the only person who can teach
37:53
Speaker 1: him that is Guydoor, who is being held captive by
37:57
Speaker 1: Evil oh lynn Is. She Evil Olyn Is. Evil Olyn
38:06
Speaker 1: is extra dangerous because she has the Katana of Grace Skull.
38:10
Speaker 1: He Man defeats Evil olyn Is. She frees Guidor, who
38:13
Speaker 1: teaches him the five point cosmic key punch and then
38:16
Speaker 1: he uses the power of the Katana of Gray Skull.
38:18
Speaker 1: By the Power of Gray Skull to send him back
38:20
Speaker 1: to Attorney. He meant confronts Skeletor, pretending to want to
38:23
Speaker 1: rejoin his crew, and when they come together for the reconciliation,
38:26
Speaker 1: hug he Met strikes Skeletor with the five point cousm
38:29
Speaker 1: key punch a Skeletor falls to the ground. We see
38:32
Speaker 1: he Man raise a sword above his head in victory. Nice.
38:36
Speaker 1: All right, you're a for my mash up? Yes, okay.
38:39
Speaker 1: I decided to ignore the movie and went straight to
38:42
Speaker 1: the cartoon. Sounds good. I grew up with it. So
38:46
Speaker 1: here we go as here's my Master of the Universe
38:48
Speaker 1: meets kill Bill. We opened on a close up of
38:51
Speaker 1: Evil Lynn's face as she lays on the floor. She's
38:54
Speaker 1: clearly wounded, and we hear a calm voice tell her
38:56
Speaker 1: that he didn't want it to come to this. She
38:59
Speaker 1: gasps and says, kill door, it's your But before she
39:02
Speaker 1: can finish the sentence, she's blasted by an energy beam.
39:06
Speaker 1: Cut to credits some music from the seventies play Let's
39:10
Speaker 1: Say It's Funky Town by Lips Incorporated. The title reads
39:14
Speaker 1: kill Kell Door volume one. Four years later, Evil Lynn,
39:19
Speaker 1: who apparently survived the attack, arrives at the cave of
39:22
Speaker 1: beast Man. She and beast Man get into a knockdown,
39:25
Speaker 1: drag out fight until beast Man's kid, beast Boy, shows up,
39:30
Speaker 1: and they pretend to play nice with the promise to
39:32
Speaker 1: meet later. When beast Boy is at soccer practice or something,
39:35
Speaker 1: Evil Lynn shows up and beast Man tries to take
39:38
Speaker 1: her by surprise by pulling a whip out of a
39:40
Speaker 1: cereal box, but Evil Lynn can totally see that, like
39:43
Speaker 1: half the whip is overflowing out of the box, so
39:46
Speaker 1: she zaps him with some sorceress magic. Then Evil Lynn
39:49
Speaker 1: takes out a list that has five names on it.
39:51
Speaker 1: One of them has already been crossed off. Beast Man's
39:54
Speaker 1: name is the second on the list, so she crosses
39:56
Speaker 1: that one off. The names on the list read Merman,
40:00
Speaker 1: beast Man, Trap, Jaw, stink Or, and Keldor, with parenthesis
40:05
Speaker 1: next to that name that says skeletor question mark, question mark.
40:10
Speaker 1: We flash back to that day when Evil Lynn got zapped.
40:13
Speaker 1: He Man and Tila arrive at the scene of the
40:14
Speaker 1: crime near Snake Mountain and realize that Evil Lynn, though comatast,
40:19
Speaker 1: is still alive and they bring her to Castle Gray Skull.
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Speaker 1: Evil Lynn lies in a coma for four years, waking
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Speaker 1: up suddenly and using her magic powers to escape from
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Speaker 1: Castle Gray Skull. She momentarily bewitches Cringer Slash battle Cat
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Speaker 1: and hooks him up to a wagon to escape. So
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Speaker 1: she escapes in a let's call it a kitty wagon
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Speaker 1: some more seventies music plays Let's say it's Rupert Holmes's
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Speaker 1: classic escape a k a. The Pina Colada song. We
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Speaker 1: flash forward to Evil Lynn traveling to face off against
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Speaker 1: the first name on her list, Merman, which requires her
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Speaker 1: to go to a crumby old pond on the outskirts
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Speaker 1: of Snake Mountain. There, Merman is having a party at
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Speaker 1: an octopus's garden. In the shade, some cool indie band
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Speaker 1: is playing. You know the type of band, the type
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Speaker 1: that's so cool you would never see them live because
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Speaker 1: they'd only play like three exclusive parties before they broke
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Speaker 1: up over some stupid reason. So you'd always hear from
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Speaker 1: your friends Steve how great they were, as if Steve
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Speaker 1: were at the party. But how the heck did Steve
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Speaker 1: get in? I mean Steve's a total jerk, and besides,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't know anyone cool, so he's gotta be lying
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Speaker 1: about it. I know you're lying, Steve. Anyway, they play
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Speaker 1: a song from the seventies. It's Debbie Boone's You Light
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Speaker 1: Up My Life Ebbie. Evil Lynd then faces off against
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Speaker 1: a horde of Merman's accomplices, but they're mostly fish, so
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Speaker 1: it really doesn't slow her down very much. Then she
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Speaker 1: has a big fight with Merman, where the score builds
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Speaker 1: it up like it's gonna be some sort of epic
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Speaker 1: combat sequence, but in fact it just takes like three
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Speaker 1: moves and she kills Merman, so she crosses him off
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Speaker 1: the list. One of Merman's fish flops out of the
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Speaker 1: pond and all the way up to Snake Mountain, where
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Speaker 1: we see it Warren Keldor a k a. S. Eletor
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Speaker 1: of evil Lyn's return Skeletor says something cool, except he
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Speaker 1: doesn't that dumb voice of his he thinks he's so big,
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Speaker 1: and we end with another seventies song. I'm gonna say
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Speaker 1: it's the theme to the Great Great Ape Show, and
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Speaker 1: we end because this is volume one. So what happens next?
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Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to wait for another mashup to
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Speaker 1: find out. Oh that was brilliant, thank you at least
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Speaker 1: far in the dust. Well, I also didn't have to.
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Speaker 1: I didn't restrict myself to the movie. If I had,
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Speaker 1: it would have been a lot less ridiculous. Listen, I'm glad.
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Speaker 1: I'm just glad you didn't bring Fisto into it, because
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Speaker 1: that's well, there are a lot of There are a
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Speaker 1: lot of characters of he Man that to choose from,
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Speaker 1: but I went with the classics. So anyone who is
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Speaker 1: aware of the old Heman toys, uh, they use like
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Speaker 1: four different molds to produce most of the action figures,
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Speaker 1: so a lot of the characters are legit identical to
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Speaker 1: one another except for some slight accessories and paint jobs,
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Speaker 1: and otherwise they're exactly the same figure. So much so
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Speaker 1: that fun fact, you could pull the arms off of
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Speaker 1: your he mane toys and switch them with other he
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Speaker 1: Man toys. So I had a he Man who had
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Speaker 1: a skeletor arm and a beast Man arm, and you know,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of disarming in he Man at my house.
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Speaker 1: So poor he Man figures. But that's our mashups and
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Speaker 1: I'm sure our listeners have great ideas for mashing up
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Speaker 1: you know, he Masters in the Universe and kill Bill. Uh,
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