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Ross Fulton Analysis LIVE: Ohio State vs. Oregon Schematic Breakdown · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a very special live episode of Buckeyes Tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: Morning for Tuesday, December thirty. First time, your host Tom
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  Speaker 1: Moore the Oregon game in the Rose Bawl. Well, that
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  Speaker 1: is tomorrow, the game he gets Michigan in three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and thirty three days.
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  Speaker 2: But we got to talk about that Oregon game.
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  Speaker 1: There is going to be a huge focus on that
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  Speaker 1: game nationally, one of the college football quarterfinal games, probably
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  Speaker 1: the most anticipated of those four matchups because honestly, it
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  Speaker 1: might feature the two best teams in the country. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be breaking that down with our buddy, Ross Fulton,
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  Speaker 1: the ex's and oseguru.
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  Speaker 2: At bucke Huddle dot com.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing it live, i think for the
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  Speaker 1: first time ever, which is pretty exciting. And whenever Ross
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  Speaker 1: start with the Buckeyes. We have Oregon stuff to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: We have Ohio State's tough to talk about. Start with
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  Speaker 1: the buck Eyes. You said you we already did a
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  Speaker 1: show at the Ohios did offense and the highs date
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  Speaker 1: defense against Tennessee in the College Football Playoff first round.
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  Speaker 1: I want to let you share some thoughts. You got
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  Speaker 1: a chance to rewatch that game again since we did that,
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  Speaker 1: So anything new, any big takeaways after watching.
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  Speaker 2: That game again?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's uh, the Oregon Ohio State game,
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  Speaker 3: you mean or the playoff game?
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  Speaker 4: Sorry about that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry? Well? Which? Yeah? Which? Which one do you
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about? Let you let you start?
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  Speaker 4: You pick?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's start with Let's start with that first
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  Speaker 1: Oregon Ohio State game.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, So a couple of things.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny, like when you get the benefit of a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of time, right and like even hearing some
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  Speaker 3: more in the dispassionate I guess or less less, you know,
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  Speaker 3: doing this on a day to day basis. The Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State defense, it was in some ways it was it
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  Speaker 3: wasosential to the changes that they've made in terms of
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  Speaker 3: I think that they're going to be in a much
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  Speaker 3: better position to defend organ because of those changes as
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  Speaker 3: a result, and we've talked about some of that and
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  Speaker 3: going back to the Tennessee you know, talking about how
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State was able to you know, plug the b
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  Speaker 3: gaps with the defensive ends, spill the football outside. That
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  Speaker 3: allowed the second level players to sit on RPOs and
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  Speaker 3: to take those away, so you're forcing the handoff. Then
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  Speaker 3: you're giving those guys time so they're not putting in conflict,
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  Speaker 3: right and a lot of you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: playing Caleb downs at the second level. Like all those
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  Speaker 3: things are direct results of the Oregon game. I think
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  Speaker 3: those are things that were a long time in coming,
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  Speaker 3: but they were they were you know, necessary changes that
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  Speaker 3: were finally sort of brought about by that. But it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't all bad the first game either, you know, some
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  Speaker 3: of those things you can see some of it or right,
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  Speaker 3: like they did use like a lot of these split
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  Speaker 3: safety concepts. I think that Oregon's base run play is
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  Speaker 3: stretch a wide zone, you know, which you've talked about
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of Ohio State as well, and like Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State did a very good job against that play in
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  Speaker 3: the first game. You know, the defensive tackles controlled the
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  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, they reset the line of scrimmage. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think Oregon had a lot of a ton of
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  Speaker 3: success running there where Oregon did have success or the
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  Speaker 3: converse that we just talked about, right, So you know,
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  Speaker 3: there was a for instance, there was a play where
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  Speaker 3: Oregon ran a centerfold block, you know, we talked about
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  Speaker 3: that from Ohio State right where the center pulls around
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  Speaker 3: on the guard, leads on the linebacker and Ohio State
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  Speaker 3: was in cover four and there's just a lot of
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  Speaker 3: space there because the defensive end was flying upfield. That
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  Speaker 3: creates a crease then that they could the running back
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  Speaker 3: and cut off of that. And with two split safeties,
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  Speaker 3: you just don't have every gap accounted for. And so
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  Speaker 3: you know there are a few situations of that against
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  Speaker 3: Oregon where they're just you know, a few situations where
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  Speaker 3: we highlighted in the post game or you know, the
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  Speaker 3: film study after that week of you know, Jordan Hancock
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  Speaker 3: in particular was put in like run pass conflicts, but
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  Speaker 3: that happened the second level where you know, a second
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  Speaker 3: level defender was both responsible for an inside gap but
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  Speaker 3: also had a uh you know, pass responsibility. So like
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  Speaker 3: you know, a few plays after that run play I
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  Speaker 3: just talked about, you know, they threw a little slide
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  Speaker 3: rpo to Tess Johnson and Hancock had to pause because
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  Speaker 3: he was also responsible for the B gap and so
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  Speaker 3: he was just like getting there.
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  Speaker 4: That red led to like a twelve yard game.
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  Speaker 3: So all these things are going to make defensively, Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State is going to be in a better position, I think,
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  Speaker 3: even though you know, as I said, like and the
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  Speaker 3: other thing I would I would mention and this would
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  Speaker 3: also tie to Penn State in Oregon too, is like
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  Speaker 3: the other issue Ohio State had that game particular, early
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  Speaker 3: it was dealing with tempo and getting lined up. They
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  Speaker 3: were you know, it's just like get your cleats in
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  Speaker 3: the ground and go. They've talked Brian Day Jim also
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  Speaker 3: talked a lot since then about like one of the
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  Speaker 3: changes they did make since then was getting uh making
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  Speaker 3: simplifying the calls coming in to get people lined up
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  Speaker 3: more quickly and be set to play, because you know,
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  Speaker 3: Organ's like the pace overall is not super high, but
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  Speaker 3: they definitely use tempo selectively, and like they really hurt
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  Speaker 3: Penn State with that early in that game and throughout
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  Speaker 3: Pency just had trouble getting lined up correctly organ you know.
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  Speaker 4: With tempo.
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  Speaker 3: On the first drive for instance, used like a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of unbalanced lines and Pencey could never get themselves like
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  Speaker 3: correctly lined up, and that that led to an easy
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  Speaker 3: opening drive for the Ducks. So all those things are
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  Speaker 3: going to be important, but those are you know, that's
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  Speaker 3: the benefit of playing of twice right, Like these are
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  Speaker 3: the changes that were had to be made to handle
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  Speaker 3: a tempo, rpo heavy team.
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  Speaker 1: So one of the things as you were talking and
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  Speaker 1: kind of going through the bad old days for the
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State defense, you know at various times over the
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  Speaker 1: last few years. One of the things I know, I
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  Speaker 1: remember you talking about a bunch and I was just thinking,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't heard him talk about that recently.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if they fix that.
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  Speaker 1: Is getting real predictable in terms of you know, where
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  Speaker 1: they are on the field and you can you know,
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  Speaker 1: opponents being able to manipulate them. But with motions or
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  Speaker 1: putting guy, you know, put a different guy in the slot,
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  Speaker 1: and that means, hey, you're going to create a mismatch
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  Speaker 1: just by switching where someone is on the field in
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  Speaker 1: the formation. Is that one of the things that's changed
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  Speaker 1: a little bit since that first Organ game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that they were pretty predictable, particularly like
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  Speaker 3: against an Organ style team in terms of particularly when
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  Speaker 3: they were using man coverage or cover one, you know,
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  Speaker 3: with the deep safety, and that's where they could really
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  Speaker 3: kind of Organ hurt them a few times by again
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  Speaker 3: like you know, uh, Jordan Hancock in particular, again would
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  Speaker 3: have both an inside gap run gap, which a you
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  Speaker 3: don't really want your nickel with that being in that position,
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  Speaker 3: but they would also have you know, a uh a
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  Speaker 3: pass threat, particularly on the backfield. You know, the first
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  Speaker 3: Oregon's first touchdown was an explosive run where Hancock was
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  Speaker 3: lined up in the B gap. They lined up, I
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  Speaker 3: believe it was Ted Johnson in the backfield as an
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  Speaker 3: offset full back. He like ran a slide arpew of
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  Speaker 3: the opposite way. Hancock followed him, uh, and that left
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  Speaker 3: an open gap. Another time on that fourth and one,
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  Speaker 3: I think it was fourth to one third on one
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  Speaker 3: or fourth and one, where they uh you know.
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  Speaker 4: Targeted the tight end.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Hancock came up to fill a gap and that the
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  Speaker 3: tight end was uncovered. So, you know, like anything else,
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  Speaker 3: every coverage you don't want to do it too much
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  Speaker 3: or it becomes predictable. As I said, when I went
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  Speaker 3: back and watched it, they did play I think more
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  Speaker 3: split safety coverages than I probably gave them credit for
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  Speaker 3: at the time. But I still think that it was
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  Speaker 3: a situation where like, particularly like in certain high leverage situations,
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  Speaker 3: it was too too predictable that that to will Stein
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  Speaker 3: that he was going to be facing man coverage, and
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  Speaker 3: that let let him use some man coverage beaters. But
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  Speaker 3: you know, again, it's like it'll be interesting to see
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  Speaker 3: how they do it, because like you just don't see
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm not picking on Jordan Hancock. I think he
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  Speaker 3: does a pretty good job filling the run, but like
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  Speaker 3: they don't really put him in those situations anymore because
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  Speaker 3: they put Caleb downs there and they figure out ways
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  Speaker 3: to you know, I'm always like, what are the calls
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  Speaker 3: or it's just like all right, Caleb, you're now the
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  Speaker 3: second level player.
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  Speaker 4: Jordan Hancock, you're the safety.
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  Speaker 3: So that's just that's just something they really didn't show
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  Speaker 3: prior to organ And that's that's less of like a
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  Speaker 3: excuse me, like a scheme specific change and more of
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  Speaker 3: a like he's our best player, We're going to put
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  Speaker 3: him in the middle of the action as much as possible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, one thing I wanted to ask you about,
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  Speaker 1: and we've talked about this before, but I'm guessing we
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  Speaker 1: may have additional folks from Oregon and some Ohio state
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  Speaker 1: folks and maybe you're not into the nitty gritty of
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  Speaker 1: the shows that we do every week. But I think
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  Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about Hey, the defense has changed
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  Speaker 1: a bunch since that Oregon game. And one a phrase
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  Speaker 1: that I've heard you use a few times different variations
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  Speaker 1: on is you know, boy like a classic Jim Noles defense,
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  Speaker 1: or boy, this is this is what I see when
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  Speaker 1: I think of a Jim Noles defense. So in your mind,
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  Speaker 1: were some of the changes that were made after that,
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  Speaker 1: OHI the first Ohios did Oregon game? Were those maybe
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  Speaker 1: kind of letting Jim Noles be Jim Noles and do
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  Speaker 1: Jim Knowles things when he maybe had had had a
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  Speaker 1: little more outside input before.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so it was it was what we expected.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if you go back and look at like
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  Speaker 3: Cody Alexander, who is a great you know, defensive uh
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  Speaker 3: follow on uh X or on Blue Sky his match
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  Speaker 3: quarter site, like what he expected when Jim Noles got
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  Speaker 3: hired at Ohio State, right was like a lot of
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  Speaker 3: the three high safety concepts. And by that I mean
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  Speaker 3: like three safeties you know running like at Tampa two
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  Speaker 3: or now o High State does it with Kale Downs
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  Speaker 3: is the middle safety basis the Mike linebacker. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you see that both the actual linebacker sort of on
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  Speaker 3: the outside hips and you spill everything to the outside
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  Speaker 3: that may I mean the defensive ends like plug the
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  Speaker 3: inside gaps, forced the football to go east west and
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  Speaker 3: so that other you know again, so like the second
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  Speaker 3: level defenders can then sit on r pos on the
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  Speaker 3: past threat first and then the ball spills to them.
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  Speaker 3: You know, So things like that, uh much more like
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  Speaker 3: Cover four concepts where you're you're matching routes, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like playing the corners and man on the outside. But
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  Speaker 3: just like yeah, like also just like cleaning stuff up.
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  Speaker 3: As I said, like they used to the spot like
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  Speaker 3: spot drop. You know, Oregon hit them on a couple
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  Speaker 3: of dig routes because they were just spot dropping. They
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  Speaker 3: weren't carrying you know, the tight end or the receiver
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  Speaker 3: down the seam or or even rerouting them like you.
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  Speaker 4: Just don't see that anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Like we showed that clip from the first series against
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee where you know, Downs was as the nickel and
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  Speaker 3: he carried that seam route in cover two. So you
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  Speaker 3: know it's that's like more of a technical thing that
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  Speaker 3: I think is really short up their pass defense. But
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  Speaker 3: you just much more of like Gymnals, I guess i'd say,
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  Speaker 3: like multiple coverages and spill and kill would be like
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  Speaker 3: where you're seeing gymerals now instead of like the more
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  Speaker 3: traditional defensive front four up the field single gapping, which
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  Speaker 3: was leaving into your gaps, particularly when they're trying to
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  Speaker 3: play split safety coverages.
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  Speaker 1: All right, and just to give everyone a sense for
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  Speaker 1: what our game plan is for this show, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to we're aiming to go about a half an hour,
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  Speaker 1: give or take, and so we're about ten minutes in
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  Speaker 1: a little more than that right now. I do want
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  Speaker 1: to get a little bit right now to the Oregon
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  Speaker 1: side of things, because you said you watch the Oregon
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  Speaker 1: Penn State Big Ten championship game and there was certainly
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  Speaker 1: a lot a lot of interesting stuff to take from
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  Speaker 1: that and want to get into that, and then we
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  Speaker 1: have some great questions as well in the chat. So
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  Speaker 1: what we're going to do is we're going to get
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  Speaker 1: to those kind of probably do five ten minutes on
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  Speaker 1: Organ and we'll try and get to some of the
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  Speaker 1: questions towards the end of the show. So keep throwing
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  Speaker 1: those in there, and we will get to as many
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  Speaker 1: of them as we can. So Ross, I guess watching
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  Speaker 1: the Organ Penn State Big Ten Championship game, it was jarring.
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  Speaker 1: Tony Gerderman and I watched the Oregon Washington game which
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  Speaker 1: happened the week before it, and Oregon's defense looked like
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  Speaker 1: one of the most dominant defenses I've ever seen. Ten
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  Speaker 1: sacks in one game. It was an incredible performance defensivelying
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  Speaker 1: completely dominated the game and then the good in Indianapolis
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  Speaker 1: and Penn State just runs them over for four quarters.
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  Speaker 1: It was as a night big, a night and day
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  Speaker 1: difference as you can you've seen since like twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: one Ohio State, Michigan State and Michigan back to back.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was remarkable, and there's been a conversation around the
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  Speaker 1: Oregon team that they had, you know, the flu was
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  Speaker 1: running through the team, that kind of stuff, so maybe
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  Speaker 1: that played a part in it. But what did you see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Oregon offense looked like the Oregon offense
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  Speaker 1: in that game. The Oregon defense did not look even
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  Speaker 1: remotely like the Oregon defense.
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  Speaker 2: In that game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so the example of you use one
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  Speaker 3: when you're talking about past pass rush right the other
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about run defense up front, and like they're
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  Speaker 3: not necessarily one and the same. I would say that
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  Speaker 3: to me, Penn State didn't so much run through them,
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  Speaker 3: They ran around them a lot. You saw a lot
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  Speaker 3: of outside zone, a lot of getting drew allerd involved
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  Speaker 3: a lot of power read, which is where you're pulling
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  Speaker 3: the backside guard, the quarterbacks, reading the front side defensive
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  Speaker 3: end and either running off tack or handing it off
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  Speaker 3: on a sweep. A lot of those type of concepts.
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  Speaker 3: And like Oregon up front, they move around a lot, right,
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  Speaker 3: Like we've talked about that, they stunt, they slant, they
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  Speaker 3: like to jump gaps. Derek Carmon in particular, to me,
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  Speaker 3: is a very impactful player, but he's not someone who
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  Speaker 3: I tend to think of is like he's going to
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  Speaker 3: control a double team and you know, displace the lot
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  Speaker 3: of scrimmage. He's like someone who wants to penetrate and
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  Speaker 3: get up field and make plays in the backfield and
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  Speaker 3: like against outside zone right, like if you jump around
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  Speaker 3: you're out of position, that creates a and you can
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  Speaker 3: hit it and power read like same thing they're getting
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  Speaker 3: to the outside.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that.
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  Speaker 3: I would I whether it's the flu or whatever else,
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  Speaker 3: Like I did get the sense to me that like
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  Speaker 3: Harman in particular, like he's the one who always jumped
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  Speaker 3: out to me, like he played really well against I
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  Speaker 3: of State. He was the one I was worried about
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  Speaker 3: going into the Ohio State game, didn't quite seem like
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  Speaker 3: his normal self. Whether that's the flu, injury just you know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, fatigue from again, like all the lateral
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  Speaker 3: movement then Penn State was using, but like that really
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  Speaker 3: kept them on their heels. And then like in the
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  Speaker 3: passing game, Penn State used a ton of a lot
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  Speaker 3: of play action passing right, so like they kept faking
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  Speaker 3: like a crack sweep we've talked about, like the short
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  Speaker 3: toss the field, pulling the backside guard, so like using
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  Speaker 3: a six man protection and then hitting things in the seams.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Oregon's defensively, like Dan Lanning obviously comes from
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  Speaker 3: you know, coaching with Kirby smart and so you get
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  Speaker 3: a lot of those like cover four, cover two concepts,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of variety, but that can lead to them
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  Speaker 3: busting coverages in the back end. Penn State, you know,
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  Speaker 3: hit them a lot on getting in like a trip's
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  Speaker 3: formation and throwing to the inside receiver down the scene
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  Speaker 3: or the tight end where they just didn't know how
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  Speaker 3: to like trade off the bunch correctly per se. So
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  Speaker 3: I think like they definitely are. I think both things
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  Speaker 3: can be true, right, Like they certainly are have the
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  Speaker 3: potential to create negative plays, but by you know, jumping
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  Speaker 3: your defensive line around, you can get caught too where
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  Speaker 3: you just have open gaps.
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  Speaker 4: Particularly again like.
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  Speaker 3: When you're in split safety coverages as we talked about,
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  Speaker 3: you just like have less bodies near the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I mean that was a lot of folks, a
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  Speaker 1: lot focused on organs.
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  Speaker 2: You know what organ does and how Penn State kind
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  Speaker 2: of took advantage of it.
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  Speaker 1: I think the natural follow up question is, Okay, can
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State take advantage of it? What does Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: like to do that might allow them to take advantage
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  Speaker 1: of it? Or does what Ohio State likes to do
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: maybe not fit that as much.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think you know, the first I
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: mean I think the first game to me, like both
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: offenses were pretty successful, right. I think Ohio State punted
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: what like three times. One of them came off of
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Will Howard fumbling a snap on third two. Another came
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: when Ohio State had like two or three fall starts
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: early in the game. And so, you know, I think
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: a lot and you see a lot of the similar concepts,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Like I do think would not be surprised if Will
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Howard is more involved in the run game after what
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: they see on tape from Penn State, Like that was
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of Dreue Allard involved with run cop concepts,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: like a particularly power rate. Ohio State ran power rate
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: against Oregon. You know what, the they ran that fake
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: crack sweep and through it. Like I think the passing
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: game was there. My critique of what Ohio State did
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: in the first game against Oregon was mostly in the
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: run game. It was a lot of inside zone and
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: a lot of duo. In particular, Oregan runs a lot
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: of odd fronts. I assume the duo was trying to
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: get off the ball off tackle, but it's kind of
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: an odd plan to me to where particularly when you're
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: getting odd fronts, and like I you know, obviously this
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: in hindsight became sort of like a running theme of
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: the second half of the season until it blew up
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: in their faces against Michigan using like too many inside
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: zone concepts.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: So you know, I don't expect that.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Like they did have some success with outside zone, Like
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: they put a Mecca Booka in the backfield and they
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: ran like lead outside zone. We've seen that more and
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: more lately from Ohio State, with putting Junkins and Henderson
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: in together, bring him an orbit motion, he gets that
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: spinner action, you know. Again against all the off front
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: like they ran a ton of countertraits we discussed against
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Tennessee where you're pulling the guard the tight end typically
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: from the backside. You know, I expect to see a
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: lot of that again. So I think it's like sort
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: of amalgamation. I mean, I think, you know, passing game,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: as I said, like similar to what they did against
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: ten See, attack the seams, attack the corners or the
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: corner routes, I should say, like with smash and sale concepts.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I just think the run game needs to come along
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: with some of the concepts as I said, Penn State
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: used particularly trying to get the football to the perimeter.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: All right, and then in terms of the the Oregon
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: passing game and really the organ offense on the whole,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I mean there they were incredibly successful. The Dylan Gabriel
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: being able to extend plays with his legs was a
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: big part of it. Dylan Gabriel being able to throw
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: downfield is a big part of it. But today at
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: media Day, one of the big questions was, Okay, what
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: happened with denzil Burg because that was a it looked
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: like Denzel Burk had an out of body experience to
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: a certain degree in that game, because he hasn't looked
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: like that before or since. But they finished what eight
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: for eight for one hundred and seventy yards or whatever
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: it was against him, which is, you know, pretty incredible.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: What was your takeaway on that? Was that just one
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: bad game?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Was there is there something about or offense that presents
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: a challenge for denzel Berg or that you think might
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: be something they can repeat, or was that just kind
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: of a weird one off They caught Ohio State because
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: they had been sort of setting up, Hey, we never
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: throw deep, especially down the right sideline.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard that eighth for eight stat and I'd
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: like I'd have to go back and look because I
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: mean some of those to me are like Ohio States
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: and cover three And I'm not really like he's getting
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: blamed for getting that. Oregon completing a sale route and
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not really sure that's on him, but
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: feelers amazing. Obviously, the two big double moves stand out.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: And you know, I I said going into that game
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: that like Oregon is a like like short and intermediate
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: passing team, So I you know, I was right there.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I think he he they watched the film. I think
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: he got too nosy. They beat him on two double
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: new moves. I mean one everyone was on a third down.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: He obviously was like playing the sticks. So it's not
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: just like you know, to me, that's like a mental
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: heirs is anything else, right, like when you're biting on
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: double moves. So like I expect, listen, Organ's gonna move
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: the football like they're a very good offense. Will Stein,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: you know, is a very good offensive coordinator. Tess Johnson
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: is really good, Dylan Gabriel is really good.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: I think to me, it's just you. But you can't give.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Up those kind of explosive plays, right, Like Oregon scored
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: thirty two points and you know, basically fourteen and them
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: came on like two gigantic plays and then you include
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: the fumble, you include the on side kick, and that
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: like right there is like the vast majority of Oregans scoring,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: So you need to you can't obviously give them those
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: kind of opportunities. But it's like comes down to, you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: go back, you stop them, stop the wide zone, run game,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: sit on the reliefs.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Don't don't like give them the easy.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Throws, you know, spill the football so that your your
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: players can sit and then look, you know again it's
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: like force them to beat you in third and long
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: situations or behind the chains and like you know if
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: they do like tip their cap to you, but like
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: don't obviously don't bite on double moves, like force them,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: force them to move to the football down the field
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: and like as I said, like they'll they'll make plays.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Della Gabriel's gonna make plays. I'll make plays with his legs.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: You just want to you want to force them out
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: of their comfort zone where they're you know, taking the
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: easy stuff all.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Right, we have seen Ohio State run tempo, we have
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: seen organ run tempo. This year, We're gonna run a
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: little tempo here because we have a bunch of really
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: good questions and we are going to try and get
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: out of here in about ten minutes or so. But
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I want to get through as many of these as
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: we can, so you know, give these as much times
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: as you feel they need. But first one it was
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: from Ben Eigner. He says, after so much counter last week,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: do you expect Chip Kelly and Ryan Day to continue
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: with the counter and gap scheme and build off of
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: it or we do? Do we foresee a reversion back
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to the zone game?
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: I hope not. It doesn't.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: It doesn't fit well insidees On particular, Like again, Oregon's
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: gonna give you a lot of odd front right where
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: you're you're head up in the center, you have two
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: guys inside of between the guards and the tackles, Like
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: inside zone isn't great for that anyways. And you know
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: we may see some outside zone particularly like just trying
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: to get less like the stretch, like the pistol stretch
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: where you're trying to get cut backs. This is more
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: like we literally were going to bring someone in orbit motion.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: We want to get the football out to the edge
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: with the lead blocker, because Penn State had success with that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: But I would still expect a lot of gap scheme,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: a lot of counters get against odd front, a lot
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: of power read because it worked for Pennce. I mean
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Penn State ward out and Will Howard's good run. They
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: State runs that play, So I would be very surprised
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: if Ohio State goes backwards on either that issue or
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: like anything else that worked well against Tennessee.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Well, all right, so you just knocked I think a
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: couple more off Odysseus one to en If you expect
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: to design run for Will Howard sounds like a yes?
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Is this the Cray Henderson counter trade game? Sounds like
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: so yeah, and let me so let me I'll hit
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: real quick. I do expect more design run. I just
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: think Will Howard it's gonna be more involved as a runner.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I keep saying that.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I do think you know they they I think both
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: designed but also in terms of run read. Trey Henderson, Yes,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: I mean he's he's a he's a better gap runners
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: we talked about in the zone. I also think that
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: this is the Trey Henderson receiving game. That's the other
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: thing Penn State did is they they hit a lot
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: of passes to backs out of the backfield, wheel routes,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: just swing passes. There's a lot of you know again,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Oregon plays a lot of cover four, so the flats
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: are pretty left vulnerable. You force the linebackers out in space.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I think that this is a game where, just like Tennessee,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to be a pretty active part
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: of the passing game.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll get to some more questions a minute.
• 23:51
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• 24:23
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• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the you know, some outside perspective as well. So all right,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: for here's one from Ian Will the quick passing game
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: getting playmaker outside translate from Tennessee to Oregon. Seem like
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: we had some success there in the previous Orgon game.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it should right, Like, I mean, I
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: would agree with that assessment that there were success. I mean,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: they hit some double slants against Oregon. You know a
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: few situations Oregon does like to play I keep talking
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: about it. I know that they play a lot of
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: cover for they do play quite a bit of Cover
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: one or man coverage on third downs or like cover
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: two man under and so you know, you saw High
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: State earl against Oregon the first game around a lot
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: of double slants or slant flat routes.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: So I would expect some of that again.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: But it just it's you know, I mean, the coaches
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: see of the film too, they knew what, you know,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: what worked, Like Will Howard's are very good, like he's
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: at his best getting the football out quickly. So I
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: would just think that you're going to see more of
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: the same. But it also, as I said, fits against
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: what Oregon does defensively.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: All right, So here's one that has been a hot
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: topic of conversation. Something I asked Chip Kelly and Jeremiah
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Smith and Will Howard about on the day was it goodness?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I think Saturday, all these days are blending together at
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: this point. But Kevins wants to know if Oregon is
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: going to try to bracket Jeremiah Smith, how Ohio State
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: is going to be able to scheme him open or
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: will they?
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they did do some of that the first
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: game around, So you saw some against Tennessee, right, So
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: like party after Michigan, like success. So we talked about
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: a lot of like, OHI ste We're going a lot
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: of that trips. Look where they put jeremih Smith and
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Mecha Buka to the same side both as the inside receivers,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: and then g Scott there this tight end was by
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: himself to the single side. So the more you put
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: a Bukah and Smith to the same side, the harder
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: it is. You can't bracket both to one side. So
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: it's a lot of moving moving Smith around, a lot
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: of you know, getting him the football on shallow crosses,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: quick game stuff, and then but you don't take advantage
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: of it if they're if they're gonna if they're gonna
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: roll Cover two to him, and you know they're they're
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: doing that, then you can you push the football to
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: the opposite side on cover four. You take advantage like
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: as I said, getting the traveon Henderson the ball and
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: the flat opposite him.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: So you can use it to your.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Advantage as well, particularly if you can if you can
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: sort of diagnose when they're doing it. And that was
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: the problem's Michigan. They didn't They didn't use it to
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: their advantage enough.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: All right, Now here's another one from Drew. After all
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: that talking, does teded Johnson Organs eating receiver line up
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: against Davison Ignosen. After talking to some Oregon people, it
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: seems very clear that they we have talked about find
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the fish. It seems very clear that Oregon views throw
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: at Davison Iguanosen as something that they are going to
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: be able to do and do with some success on
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: New Year's Day.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Tes Johnson to me, I mean like
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: they move him around a lot. I mean he's mostly
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: their slot receiver, right, so you don't really get him outside,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: but they could put him there. They put him in
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: the backfield a lot too, and you have to worry
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: about him there and they try to they kind of
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: hide him as well, like on the attached to the
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: lot of scrimmage. I'm sure they will be. There will
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: be times that they're matched up and like, as I said,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: like Ted Johnson's really good, He's gonna make some plays.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, I thought Iganosen played well against Tennessee. I
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: thought all three Corns. I thought Jermaine Matthews played well also,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: And like that'll be one difference, right, is they're going
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: to rotate those guys this game. They didn't rotate them
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: obviously or infamously the first game against Organs out. I
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: think that gives them all a chance to be fresh.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: But you know again, I think in some ways, right,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: it's like if they want to put Ted Johnson out
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: wide a bunch to the boundary, then that's a little
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: bit taking him out of where he's best, which is
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: in the middle of the field. So there's there's trade
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: offs involved as well.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: All Right, got a couple more. Craig Hendon says Organ
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: has been off for a long time. Now, does Noles
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: apply pressure early and often and try to make Gabriel
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable or does he stick with the read and react
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: to the react with adjustment style defense.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is the other thing that kind of
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: like the narrative that grew out of that organ game
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: was that Gabriel wasn't pressured at all, and it's not true,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: like if you look at the PFF stats, if you
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: just go back and watch the film, like they put
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: they put quite a bit of pressure on him, including
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: like as we talked about, they ran cover one, cover
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: zero excuse me, like man no deep safety blitzes multiple times.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: It's just Gabriel's pretty effective against it. Like he's he's
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: hard to hem in. I think that they will be
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: select I think he will be selective. I think you
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: will see less cover zero concepts like they did last time,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: in more like simulated pressures or zone blitzes where they're similar,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: more like what they've been doing later in the season,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: particularly against Indiana on third downs if they get him
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: in third long But I you know, as I said,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: I think on early downs, I think it's it's more
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: like let's Caleb down. Let's get Caleb downs. In the
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: middle of the field at the second level, let's force uh,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: let's take away the easy R p O or relief throws,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: and let's force the football. And then let's let our
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: defensive line because I do think oh of States they
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: did in the first game, like I think, Oh, I
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: see its defensive tackles have an edge against organs into
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: your players, So you want to let them control the
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 29:54
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• 30:00
  Speaker 1: So this is from Bucket Huddle member Frost. He wants
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: to know, how would you compare Oregon's defensive line to Tennessee's,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Penn State's, Indiana's, or even Michigan's. Have they changed much
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: since the team's last played.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: These are tough questions because they're all different, right. I think,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: as I said, I think Oregon is they're very good
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: at at creating havoc that fits with what they do
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: in terms of how they like to stunt and move around.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Brings Dan Lanning love sim pressures. I would less they're
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: you know, they're not Mason Graham like no one's Mason
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Graham like he's you know, he's gonna be a top
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: five pick in terms of just like being able to
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: control the line of scrimmage. But that's also not what
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: they do, you know, you know, Uh, Potato's created pressure
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: as well, like from the edge. So I mean they
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: will They're good, They're good. All those lines are good.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: The key for high state. Like again, you don't want
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: to get into plane, you know, you don't want to
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: run into odd friends with inside zone or due a bunch.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: I just thought they got themselves too too stuck in
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: that too many times against Oregon, and obviously they have
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: and that was before the offensive line injury.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: So you gotta you gotta attack the edges.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: One more from a buck Ieheadle member. Uh, this was
• 31:16
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• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Happy to keep going.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Tom If there's more questions, okay, look at another ten
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: minutes if you want to.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's then let's do that. So that this is
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: from a book I Hitdle. Remember what players do you
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: expect Day and Kelly to feature? And we've kind of
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit, but you know, any
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: specific thoughts on this, who would you feature.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: You obviously start with the big two. I guess I'd say,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: I mean obviously Smith and a Buka. I think this
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: could be a big a Mecca Buka game in the slot,
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  Speaker 3: and I think Trayvon Henderson because both as a runner
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  Speaker 3: and as a receiver. And then I would I expect
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: them to get the tight ends involved again, just like
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: they started to do against Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: Also, all right, so this one is from Ian.
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  Speaker 1: What is the one biggest thing Ohio State has to
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  Speaker 1: do differently than the first matchup with Oregon offensively, defensively or.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Both well, defensively, I think we've touched on right, like
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta play heavy techniques.
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  Speaker 4: You can't.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Don't leave into your gaps where he's a linebacker, a
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: secondary player has a run pass conflict. Offensively, as I said,
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: do not run pistol and duo or inside zone and
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: duo a bunch like get to the edges, run off
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  Speaker 3: tackle and then you know you gotta be ready for
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  Speaker 3: the bag of tricks right like it bit them in
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  Speaker 3: the first game. You know, that's not to say that
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: like Dan Lamy's always perfect with these, like sometimes they
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: don't work, but you gotta like be ready for the
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: crazy crazy formation offensively, you know, special teams lining up
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  Speaker 3: in strange ways, and to play a clean game, like
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  Speaker 3: I don't think personally, I do not think oh, I say,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: should try to match them. I think Ohio State Day
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  Speaker 3: got too far down the road and it fitn't against
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: mission of like we need to create plays on special
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: teams per se, like like field the ball, play cleanly,
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  Speaker 3: hopefully you can make a field goal.
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  Speaker 4: You really have to.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Dare to dream. Next up from loud, quiet loud.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I just don't want to see any sequence where j
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Johnson and Knowles drop all four defensive linemen and have
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: them covering grasp while Gabriel waits to air it out.
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  Speaker 2: Was this the game where they brought like one or
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: two people? Is that okay?
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked, Yeah, yeah, okay, So that was is
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  Speaker 3: a concept. The concept is that you're the problem was
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: that they didn't execute it correctly. The defensive linemen are
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: supposed to engage with the offensive count lineman to engage them,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: and then you get a free rush off the edge
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  Speaker 3: and then those guys can drop off. So you're trying
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: to take away those short underneath throws like Ohio State
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: ran a bunch of different cover zero variations of that sort.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you'll probably see it again. It didn't
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  Speaker 3: they didn't execute it well. As I said, they've gone
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: more to They did run cover zero against Tennessee. That
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: was on the Kenyata Jackson, you know, questionable roughing call.
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  Speaker 4: They that was cover zero.
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  Speaker 3: So they'll use it occasionally, but I think you'll see
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: more like simulated pressures as I said, like five or
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: six man rushes.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: So here's one from Odysseus.
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  Speaker 1: Could we see Noles show man pre snap and go
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: to cover two post snap.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, they do that. They do it a lot, I mean,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: and vice versa. Like if you look at again Cody
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Alexander to drop like he's been posting coverage breakdowns for
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: all the playoff teams before the game, and I'm sure
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: he'll do it again, but he did before Tennessee for
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: US State, like Ohio State has virtually no tendencies at
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: this point cover twise, like they run like five different
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: coverages about equally, which is pretty unique, and they have
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: a lot of variety. So yeah, I think, and they've
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: been better about disguising it. So that's all all of
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: these things have been improvement since Oregon.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: All right, and Florida Buckeye wants you to compare os
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: use defensive line now versus he says then, which I
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: assume is the first time these two teams played.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, like I I'm fully on the
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: page now that like I'll defend Jack Soyer and J. T.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Twomloa like they're they're very underrated at this point, I
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: think by a lot of Ohio State fans because of
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: the past ats like being able to stop the run
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: the way their defensive line does is like a vastly
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: underrated thing, and like they allows you to play with
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: split safeties. But I think the one improvement is that
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Tyler Williams look the healthiest to me against Tennessee that
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: he he had been for much of the season, and
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: he was a he was a pretty much a game wrecker.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: And so I think I think Ohio State defensive lines
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: in a better position, but also they're being put in
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: better positions to make plays.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: All Right, So we have now gotten through all the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: listener questions and now I get to ask you the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: question that I'm sure everyone wants to know, and I'm
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: sure is.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Your absolute favorite.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, give us, give us your prediction and how does
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: this game play out?
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: What is your score prediction?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I have managed to delay and not turn in my
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: score prediction because I keep changing my mind.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: So what is it?
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: What do you think you are going to what do
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: you think everyone's going to see on New Year's Day
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: in Pasadena?
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: And what you know?
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Who is going to get to move on to go play?
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Probably Texas thetvold.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a really good game.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: I think both teams are very good. I think the
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: thing that to me is again, like you when you
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: look at the four units right like, I think Oregon's
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: defense is probably like the weakest of the four units
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: on the field.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: I think that will make a difference.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I think that if Ohio State doesn't give up the
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: you know, the mistakes they made in the game first
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: game at Oregon, that makes a difference. I just think
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: it's hard to beat a team twice right back to
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: back times. I mean, obviously Washington did it to Organ
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: last year, so I'm not saying it's impossible. I just
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: think that I think the layoff can make a difference
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: for Oregon, and I think that Ohio States be ready
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: for the tempo this time. So I you know, I
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: favor I think Ohio State. I think I picked him
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: to win what I say, thirty one to twenty five
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: or something like that. I mean, I'm probably crazy pick
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: you know, I State to kick a field goal, but
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: you know, I just think it's sort of turnovers equal
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: out and obviously Oregon had the benefit of that in
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: the first game. I mean, Jordan burch Is back, he
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: didn't play, you know. I just to me, like, maybe
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: he'll be healthier than he was. Even against Penn State.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I didn't feel like a ton of impact from him,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: if I'm being frank, against the Nindy Lions and like
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: towards the end of the season, and so maybe maybe
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: he'll be healthy and I'll eat my words. I just
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: don't think Ohio State is going to put themselves in
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: a situation where they're you know, just like they did
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: with James Piis last week. I think the ball is
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: gonna be out quickly to the outside.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we will have plenty more to talk
• 37:51
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