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Love and Rockets Book Club #74 - V2 #4 · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:00
  Maria Pena: Thank you.
• 0:01
  Tad Eggleston: Good morning, everybody! Welcome back to the Love & Rockets Book Club on 22 Panels. I am joined by Maria Pena, who will have fabulous insights for us, but is also keeping us on the clock, because she's in some pretty warm country that, like.
• 0:15
  Tad Eggleston: Has family, and things that she hasn't seen in a while, and wants to vacation, because she's a crazy person and doesn't realize that comics are life.
• 0:24
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, wait a minute, no, I'm the crazy person, because I think that comics are life. Sorry about that, Maria, I got confused for a second.
• 0:34
  Tad Eggleston: And Marisol, I think, is still coming from cold Minnesota and wishing she was on the beach in Maria's background. Does that sound accurate?
• 0:42
  Marisol: Yeah, I'm finally back home.
• 0:45
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, you're back home.
• 0:45
  Marisol: the extra cold of Minnesota, so…
• 0:48
  Maria Pena: Oh, gosh.
• 0:50
  Tad Eggleston: I'm not going back.
• 0:51
  Marisol: So you only…
• 0:52
  Tad Eggleston: I wish that you saw… you only wish that you were on Maria's Beach as much as I wish that I was on Maria's Beach, which is today, 20 degrees lower than yesterday, I think? Yeah, 21 degrees right now.
• 1:07
  Maria Pena: Rose, guys.
• 1:08
  Maria Pena: Yeah, you should come over.
• 1:12
  Marisol: We'll pop by for a visit.
• 1:14
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I mean…
• 1:15
  Marisol: Too gross.
• 1:16
  Tad Eggleston: Figure out that teleportation technology.
• 1:20
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:22
  Tad Eggleston: Cause I got stuff that I have.
• 1:23
  Marisol: What do you have to do tomorrow?
• 1:24
  Tad Eggleston: Tomorrow.
• 1:25
  Marisol: Exactly.
• 1:27
  Tad Eggleston: So, we're gonna start off today with Luba Comics and Stories number 1.
• 1:32
  Tad Eggleston: Because we're still in the era where, where, Beto was just putting out
• 1:38
  Tad Eggleston: tons of work. So… so there had to be the… the Jaime and Beto book, but also…
• 1:45
  Tad Eggleston: the Beto book, and the other Beto book, and sometimes the other Beto book on top of that…
• 1:51
  Tad Eggleston: All going simultaneously. We're only handling one at a time, but Fritz and Petra is the first issue of Luba Comics and Stories.
• 2:03
  Tad Eggleston: and kind of a deep dive into… to these… I mean, what…
• 2:08
  Maria Pena: is there.
• 2:08
  Tad Eggleston: Continuity is the first really deep.
• 2:10
  Marisol: dive into it.
• 2:11
  Tad Eggleston: these characters.
• 2:15
  Maria Pena: Yeah, and we…
• 2:16
  Maria Pena: Yeah, we… at the beginning, though, there's an introduction by Luba, where she says, you know, I don't really know my sisters that much, but in this issue, you're gonna get to know them.
• 2:28
  Maria Pena: Yep. And then… and then it's a… the first story is the night of… the three of them go out together, and… and… and Luba's surprisingly quiet. She doesn't say anything for most of the story, because… and they keep talking to her.
• 2:44
  Tad Eggleston: Well, they keep talking to her in English, though.
• 2:46
  Maria Pena: In English, that's right, at the end.
• 2:48
  Maria Pena: realized, oh… She didn't understand.
• 2:51
  Maria Pena: bang.
• 2:52
  Marisol: Right. Hanging out with her hammer.
• 2:55
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 2:56
  Maria Pena: And then we see some, flashbacks to.
• 3:00
  Tad Eggleston: The, the, the Petra flashback, where…
• 3:04
  Tad Eggleston: Kinda looks like she'd blow anybody in high school.
• 3:08
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 3:10
  Maria Pena: And… Yeah, like, he's… It was actually kind of, like, it's actually kind of funny that…
• 3:17
  Tad Eggleston: That…
• 3:18
  Tad Eggleston: And, like, this is one of those places where I'm not a girl, so I have, like, no way to…
• 3:25
  Tad Eggleston: But, like, the sister dynamic between Petra and Fritz is, like, the Petra and Fritz that we know
• 3:33
  Tad Eggleston: I forget if Petra has found religion by the… by this point, but she will. And she's all prissy and gives Fritz a hard time for being…
• 3:44
  Tad Eggleston: Flirty or whatnot, but, like…
• 3:47
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 3:47
  Tad Eggleston: When they were younger, it was 180 degrees the opposite. Fritz wasn't… was in.
• 3:54
  Maria Pena: What's the idea.
• 3:54
  Tad Eggleston: Kind of, but… but not ready, and…
• 3:58
  Tad Eggleston: not outgoing, and shy, and… and Petra was just, like…
• 4:05
  Maria Pena: Yeah, putting it out there.
• 4:06
  Marisol: It's a wildfire.
• 4:07
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 4:09
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 4:10
  Tad Eggleston: So, this, this gave us, like, a,
• 4:13
  Tad Eggleston: Because Fritz has always had kind of that youngest sibling…
• 4:19
  Tad Eggleston: thing going. She's gotta, like, keep up with her sister, kinda be better than her sister, and… and, like, I mean, remember, our first meeting then was, like.
• 4:29
  Tad Eggleston: The horrible situation they had when their mom was… was…
• 4:35
  Maria Pena: Just out. Oh.
• 4:36
  Tad Eggleston: or out with men, like, all the time. You know, their childhood was… raw.
• 4:45
  Marisol: greatest.
• 4:46
  Tad Eggleston: There are… there are ways in which Petra is almost Fritz's mom.
• 4:51
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, just…
• 4:54
  Maria Pena: Yeah, she's sort of modeling the behavior, isn't she? Yeah.
• 4:58
  Maria Pena: Oh, cool.
• 4:59
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and also, like, so brilliantly done, because, like…
• 5:05
  Tad Eggleston: If, like, you picked up this comic and didn't know any of the history,
• 5:14
  Tad Eggleston: You could look at it and go, oh, it's just exploitational, or even, not so exploitational that it's not fun, or whatever.
• 5:26
  Tad Eggleston: But then, if you go back and read any of the other comics, or you've been following along closely enough, it's like.
• 5:33
  Tad Eggleston: In this relatively fun comic, you know, maybe minus the part where she's helping her boyfriend shoot up.
• 5:43
  Maria Pena: Oh.
• 5:44
  Tad Eggleston: Yes.
• 5:45
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that was confronting.
• 5:48
  Marisol: Very loose term with boyfriend, I'd say.
• 5:50
  Tad Eggleston: Well, okay.
• 5:53
  Tad Eggleston: One of her…
• 5:55
  Maria Pena: Dealer who she blows.
• 5:57
  Marisol: Right. Yeah.
• 6:00
  Tad Eggleston: And yeah, this thing, yeah, like, this thing with…
• 6:05
  Maria Pena: Ritz kind of just bearing her booze to all these boys, and they all kind of pike out on her. Yeah.
• 6:15
  Maria Pena: Doesn't know how to… read the room? I don't know what… yeah, the older me.
• 6:22
  Tad Eggleston: I almost wonder if, if, like, there's an element of, like…
• 6:27
  Tad Eggleston: She's trying to be the bad girl, but she's still more attracted to the good boys.
• 6:34
  Tad Eggleston: Cause…
• 6:34
  Maria Pena: Yeah, and they're like, they're not…
• 6:38
  Tad Eggleston: They're overwhelmed by her forwardness.
• 6:41
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 6:41
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 6:42
  Marisol: Like, this is her punk rock phase right now. Right.
• 6:46
  Maria Pena: Hmm. But then, you know, she meets an actual adult man, and he goes for it.
• 6:51
  Maria Pena: Like the cop, you know.
• 6:54
  Marisol: Creek.
• 6:55
  Tad Eggleston: Look, look, look at her face there, I mean…
• 6:57
  Maria Pena: She's not enjoying it or anything.
• 7:00
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I… like… There's ambiguity left here…
• 7:08
  Tad Eggleston: But, I mean, this is rape just based on their… their disparity. It's a cop, and it's…
• 7:15
  Maria Pena: teenager, right? Yeah, yeah.
• 7:18
  Tad Eggleston: But…
• 7:19
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 7:21
  Tad Eggleston: Well, also, just, like… I don't think that there's any situation where a cop who, like, is…
• 7:31
  Tad Eggleston: On duty, on patrol, and in a position where you're worried that you could be arrested.
• 7:38
  Tad Eggleston: Could… could have sex with you where we can truly say consent is given.
• 7:43
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 7:45
  Tad Eggleston: But her face…
• 7:47
  Marisol: Absolutely.
• 7:48
  Tad Eggleston: Her face, like, emphasizes that, yeah, like, you know.
• 7:52
  Maria Pena: She's, you know, dissociating or whatever, she's not.
• 7:55
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 7:57
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 8:00
  Marisol: Just kind of letting it happen.
• 8:02
  Maria Pena: But I think it's something that she wanted to go through, like, in a way, like, losing her virginity or whatever.
• 8:09
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, if either of the punks had been willing to, it would have been a whole different… scenario.
• 8:17
  Maria Pena: Right.
• 8:17
  Tad Eggleston: We're just kinda, like…
• 8:19
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 8:23
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know what to do with those.
• 8:26
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 8:28
  Tad Eggleston: Er, I guess not.
• 8:28
  Maria Pena: There she is.
• 8:29
  Tad Eggleston: Either, there were 3 of them. Three of them!
• 8:32
  Maria Pena: Yeah, they're all out, too, they're not.
• 8:34
  Tad Eggleston: And they're all like, .
• 8:40
  Maria Pena: Yeah, no.
• 8:43
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 8:44
  Marisol: Yay!
• 8:47
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 8:49
  Tad Eggleston: We hadn't allowed ourselves to think of you as a girl yet.
• 8:53
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 8:54
  Marisol: Right.
• 8:54
  Tad Eggleston: When you pull those out… Girl!
• 9:02
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 9:03
  Marisol: Boom!
• 9:05
  Tad Eggleston: I love the one in the glasses here.
• 9:08
  Marisol: Yep.
• 9:09
  Maria Pena: Another beer, yeah.
• 9:12
  Marisol: Just kind of, like, dares for a minute, and like, okay, I'm gonna get a…
• 9:15
  Tad Eggleston: The revolution will be televised, but not without words from our sponsor.
• 9:23
  Maria Pena: Hey.
• 9:24
  Marisol: And then.
• 9:25
  Tad Eggleston: And then the last guy, actually, he thinks he's got it, you know, you got the hee-hee.
• 9:30
  Maria Pena: And then he… He goes up, and it's like…
• 9:31
  Tad Eggleston: -oh, -oh…
• 9:33
  Marisol: Yo.
• 9:34
  Tad Eggleston: I think he might have even just come in his pants.
• 9:37
  Maria Pena: Maybe. Probably.
• 9:40
  Marisol: It was the embarrassment of the night.
• 9:42
  Maria Pena: Oh, actually, that… that seems to have been Jesus coming from his pants when… oh, no, that's his beer.
• 9:48
  Tad Eggleston: No, that's his beer. But, like, the double entendre is dead.
• 9:52
  Maria Pena: Definitely there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 9:58
  Maria Pena: Yeah, although, you know, he didn't make… he didn't draw, you know, like a wet patch or anything, so…
• 10:04
  Tad Eggleston: No.
• 10:06
  Tad Eggleston: But.
• 10:07
  Maria Pena: you know.
• 10:08
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, poor Fritzy.
• 10:11
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that was very sad.
• 10:14
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 10:15
  Maria Pena: Oh, I, I.
• 10:17
  Marisol: themselves.
• 10:19
  Maria Pena: There was a scene before this when the three of them go and talk to some guy, and he says, there were three transvestites here.
• 10:27
  Marisol: Right.
• 10:29
  Maria Pena: I thought that was hilarious, because they're act down these days.
• 10:32
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 10:34
  Maria Pena: I went to buy a lottery ticket and some… they went to the bottle shop, to the… whatever you call it, the liquor store.
• 10:41
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 10:42
  Maria Pena: Yeah, I was like, wow, 3 transvestites were just in here.
• 10:48
  Maria Pena: Which kind of gives you a sort of an image of what they look like in real life. Like, you can think, wow, they have so much makeup on, and the enormous kids.
• 10:59
  Marisol: huge boobs.
• 11:00
  Tad Eggleston: Right. The short skirts…
• 11:03
  Maria Pena: Yeah, like, it's all, like, so, so, stereotypically female.
• 11:07
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 11:08
  Maria Pena: It's just that they're not really women, you know? They must be… Guys.
• 11:15
  Maria Pena: Alright.
• 11:16
  Maria Pena: That, therapist thing was really weird.
• 11:20
  Tad Eggleston: It was.
• 11:20
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 11:22
  Tad Eggleston: Therapist or school, it might be more guidance counselor than therapist.
• 11:27
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, particularly in that era, they were sometimes kind of used interchangeably. What does it say on the doors?
• 11:34
  Marisol: here.
• 11:35
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it just says…
• 11:36
  Marisol: Counselor.
• 11:38
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 11:38
  Maria Pena: Oh, yeah, okay.
• 11:39
  Tad Eggleston: So it can go either way.
• 11:41
  Maria Pena: Yeah. Oh yeah, because that's the teacher or something, leaving the…
• 11:46
  Tad Eggleston: Right? And it's definitely the one that, like… Is checked out already.
• 11:53
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 11:54
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 11:55
  Tad Eggleston: Meow.
• 11:57
  Tad Eggleston: I love the… LA punk rock stuff in the background.
• 12:09
  Tad Eggleston: Because that was definitely, definitely Jaime's scene, and Beto's scene at the time.
• 12:21
  Maria Pena: So then, she's… Fletcher is always…
• 12:27
  Marisol: Thank you.
• 12:28
  Tad Eggleston: always exercising in the background everywhere. Right, right, no, there's never a place She can't do pull-ups.
• 12:35
  Marisol: Hello.
• 12:39
  Tad Eggleston: Never a place where she can't do pull-ups.
• 12:43
  Tad Eggleston: And then… and I love this, the way that they balance this, where it's like, okay, we got this story of…
• 12:55
  Tad Eggleston: Petra and Luba and Fritz going out with flashbacks to their childhood, but now… Venus is gonna tell us how it… how it is.
• 13:05
  Maria Pena: is part of GU, I think?
• 13:08
  Marisol: Hey!
• 13:08
  Tad Eggleston: I love Venus. I love Venus.
• 13:12
  Tad Eggleston: It looks like a metabolic condition might be the answer.
• 13:23
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 13:30
  Tad Eggleston: And then the flashback to how she was made.
• 13:38
  Tad Eggleston: Have we met her dad before? I like that the…
• 13:41
  Marisol: Nope. Think so?
• 13:43
  Tad Eggleston: when we meet him, we immediately discover that, well… well, he and Petra didn't work, like…
• 13:50
  Tad Eggleston: Him and Venus are not.
• 13:52
  Tad Eggleston: A bad thing.
• 13:53
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 13:55
  Tad Eggleston: You know.
• 13:56
  Marisol: And also, is this the same Tanya that Petra…
• 14:01
  Marisol: I guess, threatened in the flashback of her, like, high school days?
• 14:06
  Tad Eggleston: Possibly.
• 14:08
  Maria Pena: Oh, I don't know.
• 14:11
  Maria Pena: Is that in this episode? That's right.
• 14:14
  Marisol: That's how I read it as anyway.
• 14:17
  Maria Pena: Yeah, well, probably.
• 14:18
  Tad Eggleston: This episode or less? That was.
• 14:20
  Maria Pena: Oh, yeah.
• 14:21
  Tad Eggleston: isn't it?
• 14:22
  Marisol: Just this one.
• 14:22
  Maria Pena: Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, right, so that's… that could be… could be her, but with a… with a… with a buzz cut. You… you gotta go forward a bit.
• 14:32
  Maria Pena: It was a punk… the punk girl in the… Cafe, or whatever.
• 14:39
  Maria Pena: Yeah, and then they…
• 14:40
  Marisol: There she is.
• 14:42
  Maria Pena: They, they sort of, Break into their room, you know.
• 14:48
  Marisol: By her dad, who steals some stuff from her.
• 14:52
  Maria Pena: Yeah, so that… yeah, that's probably her, actually.
• 14:56
  Maria Pena: And she gets some homeless guy to call her, which is really… Very disturbing.
• 15:03
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 15:08
  Maria Pena: Right, and then… and then Fritz has become this sort of… well, she… she found the… the guns, and…
• 15:16
  Marisol: Yeah. An interest for guns.
• 15:18
  Maria Pena: And she finds them empowering, I guess.
• 15:21
  Maria Pena: And then she uses them as a bit of a sexual,
• 15:26
  Maria Pena: Sort of, thing? Yeah, thing.
• 15:33
  Marisol: And then her avoiding her old high school counselor.
• 15:36
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 15:37
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 15:39
  Maria Pena: Yeah. Hmm.
• 15:42
  Maria Pena: Sorry.
• 15:43
  Tad Eggleston: Next month, we'll get some peepo.
• 15:48
  Marisol: Yep.
• 15:49
  Marisol: And possibly, probably, Fortunato there in the background, foreshadowed.
• 15:55
  Maria Pena: Was it?
• 15:56
  Tad Eggleston: Fortunato!
• 15:57
  Maria Pena: Be it.
• 15:59
  Maria Pena: Oh yeah, that's for the mysterious Leva, yeah.
• 16:01
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 16:03
  Maria Pena: that mysterious, it's a fucking sign I'm.
• 16:05
  Marisol: Oh, no.
• 16:06
  Maria Pena: They've ever done.
• 16:06
  Tad Eggleston: He's got a neon sign, man.
• 16:11
  Tad Eggleston: This one starts…
• 16:12
  Marisol: He's an intern.
• 16:13
  Tad Eggleston: Shifting gears into Love & Rockets…
• 16:17
  Tad Eggleston: Number 4. First, this is, like, one of the most brutal covers I've ever seen on 11 Rockets.
• 16:22
  Tad Eggleston: You know, just the beat to hell.
• 16:25
  Tad Eggleston: Guy with the… Rough.
• 16:28
  Maria Pena: That eye is just like, oh dear.
• 16:30
  Marisol: Hmm.
• 16:32
  Maria Pena: Like…
• 16:34
  Tad Eggleston: Well, it's like, it's, like, bad with the bruising, but then when you see that it's, like, red rather than white and blue, it's like, ugh…
• 16:42
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 16:43
  Marisol: Yep.
• 16:43
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that's fine, that's…
• 16:45
  Marisol: We got some burst veins in there, and some bursts capillaries.
• 16:50
  Tad Eggleston: Right. And I think this is the first time 11 rockets has started with a Mario story. We lead off with Me for the Unknown.
• 17:00
  Marisol: It's been a minute since we've touched on this particular… I guess. Well…
• 17:05
  Tad Eggleston: It was in last year's show.
• 17:07
  Marisol: Continuation of the suitcase guy?
• 17:09
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this is a continuation of the Suitcase Guy, and it continues to be, like…
• 17:15
  Tad Eggleston: solid B-level action movie. It feels like almost.
• 17:19
  Marisol: the.
• 17:19
  Tad Eggleston: straight-to-video Van Damme movie.
• 17:23
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 17:24
  Tad Eggleston: like… It's not terrible, but it's not great, except that Jaime.
• 17:31
  Marisol: Hmm.
• 17:31
  Tad Eggleston: Draws the fuck out of it.
• 17:35
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 17:35
  Tad Eggleston: Beto.
• 17:36
  Maria Pena: I don't miss them.
• 17:37
  Tad Eggleston: Beto draws the fuck out of it. Yeah.
• 17:40
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 17:40
  Tad Eggleston: Jaime doesn't have time to do this, Jaime's… Perfecting everything else.
• 17:45
  Tad Eggleston: I think it's so funny how… the different pace the two of them work at.
• 17:50
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:51
  Tad Eggleston: But, like, the action, the perspectives…
• 17:56
  Maria Pena: Oh, yeah.
• 17:56
  Tad Eggleston: Room full of heads.
• 17:58
  Marisol: That was really, like, oh my god.
• 18:01
  Marisol: That was horrifying.
• 18:04
  Maria Pena: it kind of… that's from the floods, right? Like, that's not, like, a massacre or something.
• 18:10
  Tad Eggleston: The, the, the butler is finally tired.
• 18:14
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 18:14
  Tad Eggleston: chair on his back.
• 18:15
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 18:17
  Tad Eggleston: And it doesn't seem like his guy is appreciative, and we have our, our, our… what is this, the, the…
• 18:25
  Tad Eggleston: The marzipan Organized Rescue and Empathy.
• 18:34
  Maria Pena: village.
• 18:37
  Maria Pena: It smells more… So funny.
• 18:39
  Tad Eggleston: more.
• 18:40
  Tad Eggleston: Well, it just… it does. It feels so much like the… the… the corporate charity… Oh, wow, we found
• 18:49
  Tad Eggleston: do. Where are the cameras?
• 18:51
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yep.
• 18:54
  Tad Eggleston: For that matter, I didn't even look. Is one of them a cameraman? Because, I mean, they should be.
• 19:00
  Maria Pena: No, it doesn'.
• 19:00
  Marisol: I don't think so.
• 19:01
  Tad Eggleston: No, it doesn't look like they are.
• 19:05
  Tad Eggleston: But there is the guy calling it in, so you gotta wonder, is he calling it in because they need help? Is he calling it in because we need to make certain that this altruism is properly publicized.
• 19:20
  Marisol: Right. Properly documented to… to brag about ourselves.
• 19:25
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I mean, remember when we liked to have videos of, of, of…
• 19:29
  Tad Eggleston: Doing good things to cover up our bad things, rather than, like, oh, let's put out the video of dropping a bomb on fishermen.
• 19:40
  Tad Eggleston: Let's put out the video where I… where I, I kicked the crap out of somebody who was just asking me questions.
• 19:50
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 19:50
  Marisol: What?
• 19:51
  Tad Eggleston: What?
• 19:52
  Maria Pena: They're just pushing those boundaries, you know.
• 19:54
  Tad Eggleston: When did we say…
• 19:56
  Maria Pena: Get away with it, and win…
• 19:57
  Tad Eggleston: Right. When did we stop at least wanting to pretend that we were good people?
• 20:03
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 20:05
  Maria Pena: It's no pretending anymore. Yes.
• 20:10
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, and this is playing with that, because you've got the more, but then you've got, like, the… the businessman with the…
• 20:16
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, he's in golf shorts and sunglasses and a polo shirt with a rocket launcher.
• 20:25
  Marisol: Because of course he is.
• 20:29
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, yeah!
• 20:32
  Tad Eggleston: I mean.
• 20:32
  Marisol: And I forget, is this girl's dad the suitcase guy?
• 20:36
  Maria Pena: Yeah, so that's her daughter. That's his daughter, sorry.
• 20:39
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and remember, this is his grand… this is her grandfather.
• 20:43
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that's right.
• 20:44
  Tad Eggleston: Who essentially, like, just passed her along to these people who are…
• 20:53
  Tad Eggleston: Trafficking her?
• 20:56
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, we'll call it that.
• 20:57
  Marisol: gift?
• 20:58
  Marisol: Yes.
• 20:59
  Maria Pena: The old man with.
• 21:00
  Marisol: It was appropriate.
• 21:02
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 21:05
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 21:06
  Tad Eggleston: But then we have a wonderful Maggie and Hopi and Izzy story.
• 21:12
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 21:14
  Tad Eggleston: Izzy has gone… Completely off a rocker at this point.
• 21:18
  Marisol: Yeah. Yeah, so she's a little… Rudy Loops.
• 21:22
  Maria Pena: But thank… thankfully, Maggie's superhero tenant is around.
• 21:28
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 21:29
  Maria Pena: And hope he's got a crush.
• 21:32
  Tad Eggleston: You think?
• 21:36
  Maria Pena: You're done? She's fine. So are you.
• 21:40
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 21:41
  Tad Eggleston: Be my guest! Be my guest, too!
• 21:49
  Maria Pena: She likes a big butch woman, Hoppy. What's that about?
• 21:53
  Maria Pena: It's funny, I love this bottom left panel here on this page with just Izzy tied up on the floor and just saying, I'm missing my soaps, damn you.
• 22:03
  Tad Eggleston: Naked and tied up on the floor.
• 22:05
  Marisol: Yep.
• 22:06
  Marisol: I mean, like… Hair sprawled out on.
• 22:08
  Tad Eggleston: Like, like, like… never has…
• 22:14
  Tad Eggleston: a triangular patch between a woman's legs been any less erotic and any more appropriate than on Izzy in the last couple of issues, where just, like.
• 22:29
  Tad Eggleston: emphasizes how much she doesn't care anymore. We're just… we're just…
• 22:34
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 22:37
  Tad Eggleston: I don't even want to get dressed.
• 22:39
  Tad Eggleston: Just gonna…
• 22:40
  Marisol: Yep.
• 22:41
  Tad Eggleston: Not doing anything.
• 22:42
  Marisol: Not bad.
• 22:42
  Tad Eggleston: for myself or you.
• 22:46
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 22:46
  Marisol: Just gonna vibe, I'm gonna carry around a fly swatter, then I'm gonna switch over to start carrying around it, just because.
• 22:53
  Tad Eggleston: Not even a steak knife, a carving knife. Carving knife. Steak knife would be… less scary.
• 23:04
  Maria Pena: I gotta cut those, cut the loops.
• 23:07
  Tad Eggleston: Falls into the pool.
• 23:10
  Tad Eggleston: And then you got all the flies and stuff. Full flies I'm ready to go now.
• 23:14
  Maria Pena: And, I love Maggie's… Maggie's monster face, the bottom.
• 23:19
  Tad Eggleston: Go to hell, Izzy, I've had it!
• 23:22
  Maria Pena: Oh, she's really had it, gosh.
• 23:28
  Tad Eggleston: And the Roy page is so much fun.
• 23:31
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 23:33
  Tad Eggleston: Yes. Correct.
• 23:33
  Maria Pena: for…
• 23:34
  Tad Eggleston: Roy presents traditional uses for a corpse's hand.
• 23:40
  Marisol: Of course.
• 23:43
  Tad Eggleston: I think my favorite is the, the… .
• 23:48
  Marisol: I like hearing.
• 23:49
  Tad Eggleston: A dead man's hand can dispel tumors, veins, and swollen glands by stroking the hand on the area affected.
• 23:58
  Maria Pena: And it had to be of a person who died in the answer.
• 24:00
  Tad Eggleston: rough.
• 24:06
  Maria Pena: My favorite in this page was sad, but… but true.
• 24:10
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 24:10
  Maria Pena: Because they're the sort of memories that I have of beings, you know.
• 24:15
  Maria Pena: And I burned a whole bunch of my comics when I was a kid. Oh, yeah, no, no. I did a purge.
• 24:22
  Maria Pena: And it's like, oh, I'm not the only one.
• 24:25
  Tad Eggleston: The number of times kids will either destroy artwork because they suddenly decide that it's terrible for a moment.
• 24:34
  Maria Pena: Or…
• 24:35
  Tad Eggleston: Or destroy toys…
• 24:37
  Tad Eggleston: not even because they want to destroy the toy, but because they suddenly go, what would this look like in a microwave? And it's, like, amazing for a minute, and then it's like, oh, wait, but I really liked that.
• 24:50
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 24:50
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 24:51
  Tad Eggleston: And now it's gone.
• 24:53
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 24:55
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah, no, that was very real. Yeah.
• 25:00
  Maria Pena: So Ru.
• 25:01
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 25:02
  Tad Eggleston: Very, very real.
• 25:05
  Tad Eggleston: And then… then we go back to.
• 25:08
  Maria Pena: The British.
• 25:10
  Marisol: in high school.
• 25:13
  Maria Pena: And then Fritzy starts, shadow.
• 25:16
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, taken after Petra.
• 25:18
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 25:19
  Maria Pena: It starts blowing all the… all the… all the jocks.
• 25:24
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, she starts by actually having sex with one of the jocks, but he's like, oh, I didn't know you were a virgin. Don't worry, I won't tell anybody.
• 25:36
  Maria Pena: And then she'd say, yeah.
• 25:38
  Tad Eggleston: Hmm.
• 25:42
  Maria Pena: Yeah, she's not doing well there, because she's not being taken seriously.
• 25:46
  Marisol: No.
• 25:46
  Maria Pena: Not really getting a boyfriend, she's just…
• 25:48
  Tad Eggleston: And she's…
• 25:49
  Maria Pena: Being used.
• 25:50
  Tad Eggleston: Taking… She's not taking.
• 25:52
  Marisol: I swear, that guy with the beard… Looks 30. It's insanity.
• 25:58
  Marisol: How are you in high school?
• 26:03
  Maria Pena: They're jocks, they're not very bright, I guess it's the…
• 26:06
  Marisol: Fair.
• 26:09
  Maria Pena: Maybe he's repeated that. He does.
• 26:16
  Maria Pena: And then she.
• 26:17
  Tad Eggleston: He goes and meets this guy, and immediately, you know…
• 26:21
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 26:21
  Marisol: Yep.
• 26:22
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, this time, she's like…
• 26:25
  Tad Eggleston: This time, like, we know it's rape, but she doesn't.
• 26:31
  Maria Pena: Holy shit.
• 26:31
  Tad Eggleston: Like, oh, we're in love!
• 26:35
  Maria Pena: Mmm, this is a fully grown man, too.
• 26:38
  Tad Eggleston: Yep. Right.
• 26:40
  Maria Pena: And now… You are maybe…
• 26:42
  Tad Eggleston: This is where she actually learns the whole gun thing.
• 26:47
  Maria Pena: And then.
• 26:47
  Marisol: Jeez.
• 26:47
  Maria Pena: completely transformed.
• 26:50
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 26:51
  Marisol: Yep.
• 26:53
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 26:56
  Tad Eggleston: And then, I love these Maggie driving sequences.
• 27:00
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 27:01
  Marisol: Yes.
• 27:02
  Marisol: They're so good.
• 27:04
  Maria Pena: That's so…
• 27:05
  Marisol: I love how Izzy is… mostly in shadow throughout the whole thing. Right.
• 27:11
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 27:14
  Maria Pena: So, okay, I'll just cut.
• 27:17
  Tad Eggleston: And there's the… there's our death dog.
• 27:19
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 27:21
  Maria Pena: They're bulldog on, if you see.
• 27:22
  Marisol: on the guard.
• 27:25
  Tad Eggleston: And then we've got our Julio's Day installment.
• 27:33
  Tad Eggleston: Which is…
• 27:35
  Maria Pena: Coolio, though, is it?
• 27:37
  Tad Eggleston: No, they say that they call him Benjamin.
• 27:40
  Maria Pena: I ain'.
• 27:41
  Marisol: It's the baby brother.
• 27:44
  Maria Pena: And he's obviously very, very popular with the little girls.
• 27:49
  Marisol: Yeah, because the last time we read Julio's Day.
• 27:53
  Marisol: His parents had just had a baby, I think.
• 27:58
  Marisol: So that's this kid.
• 28:00
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. No, Julio's right here.
• 28:04
  Maria Pena: Okay.
• 28:05
  Tad Eggleston: And after him into the woods.
• 28:07
  Maria Pena: Oh, yes, yes, okay.
• 28:09
  Marisol: When we find the… the ex-soldier.
• 28:13
  Maria Pena: Yeah, suddenly.
• 28:14
  Marisol: leaned up against a tree.
• 28:17
  Maria Pena: Oh, that is so heartbreaking.
• 28:20
  Tad Eggleston: Like you.
• 28:21
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 28:22
  Maria Pena: Like, you know, like, he's…
• 28:25
  Maria Pena: she's in the dirt naked, and I'm just like, that's not very… that's not very, you know, sal…
• 28:34
  Maria Pena: Not very salubrious, not very, what do you call it?
• 28:37
  Maria Pena: Very healthy to be…
• 28:41
  Maria Pena: Like that.
• 28:42
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, it kinda looks like he dragged himself out there.
• 28:50
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, based on the way the story's told.
• 28:52
  Tad Eggleston: Whereas people are not coming to get him.
• 28:59
  Marisol: It may be a regular thing.
• 29:02
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 29:03
  Tad Eggleston: Maybe a regular thing, and maybe just a, like… He can't be happy.
• 29:10
  Maria Pena: Oh, yeah.
• 29:11
  Marisol: No.
• 29:13
  Marisol: There's no.
• 29:13
  Tad Eggleston: You know, so, like, the best reading of it is that he does it because he takes some…
• 29:21
  Tad Eggleston: Joy in being outside, even if…
• 29:26
  Tad Eggleston: Everything, and the worst reading of it is, like, he just wants to stop having…
• 29:32
  Tad Eggleston: Everybody fawning over him, and he just wants to go off, and just, like…
• 29:36
  Maria Pena: Bye.
• 29:37
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 29:38
  Marisol: Be alone for a bit, yeah.
• 29:40
  Tad Eggleston: and die.
• 29:41
  Maria Pena: Yeah,
• 29:42
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
• 29:52
  Tad Eggleston: Calling the girl's dogs, it's just terrible. Though calling the little girl a dog, I mean, this is just, like, terrible on top of terrible on top of terrible.
• 30:05
  Maria Pena: It's, it's kind of a…
• 30:07
  Marisol: Turn around from the beginning of the story, because at the beginning, we see Benjamin being a little shit.
• 30:13
  Marisol: And then now, we see him, like.
• 30:15
  Marisol: Helping somebody get some money back, and…
• 30:19
  Marisol: getting this girl away from these mean girls. Yeah.
• 30:25
  Maria Pena: Yeah, so he's sick.
• 30:28
  Maria Pena: Reviewing myself, oh, just broke my mouth.
• 30:32
  Tad Eggleston: Frogmouth!
• 30:34
  Maria Pena: So, hold on race women, again.
• 30:37
  Maria Pena: And… Yep.
• 30:39
  Maria Pena: Every turn of toil.
• 30:43
  Marisol: We haven't seen him in a while.
• 30:45
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 30:48
  Marisol: And now he apparently walks with a cane.
• 30:52
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 30:53
  Marisol: And looks very old. Yay.
• 30:56
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, he's…
• 30:58
  Maria Pena: Yo!
• 30:58
  Tad Eggleston: Go to jail again?
• 31:00
  Tad Eggleston: Hard life. Yeah, I cannot remember.
• 31:04
  Maria Pena: So this is.
• 31:06
  Marisol: I don't remember if since the last time we saw him, he went to jail again or not, but he might have.
• 31:10
  Maria Pena: Like, it's been a rough couple years for Doyle.
• 31:15
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 31:16
  Tad Eggleston: This… panel… of… Ray brushing his teeth is just… Brilliant.
• 31:32
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 31:35
  Maria Pena: I like the one above… above it. That's great, too.
• 31:40
  Marisol: Yeah, like, I mean, that's.
• 31:41
  Maria Pena: Very classical, right?
• 31:43
  Maria Pena: But I just… And maybe a Raymond or anything else, like, it's really good.
• 31:48
  Tad Eggleston: But I just… I love the layers on this. You've got the medicine cabinet mirror and the outlet next to it, and you can tell he's in the middle of brushing his teeth. He, like, looks as bad as you could possibly look in the morning. And then you've got his thumb and the toothbrush, so, like, you have this… this serious… he's looking at himself in the mirror while he's brushing his teeth. It's just like…
• 32:12
  Maria Pena: It's his POV, you know, like, it's his point of view. Right. We are him, that's our hand, you know, that's his hand.
• 32:18
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 32:19
  Marisol: It's so cool.
• 32:27
  Tad Eggleston: And of course, you know.
• 32:30
  Maria Pena: There's a lot of head jobs on this issue.
• 32:33
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 32:33
  Marisol: Thank you.
• 32:34
  Maria Pena: That's the issue with most head jobs, ever.
• 32:37
  Maria Pena: And the last one is Doyle, apparently?
• 32:44
  Maria Pena: Gave Ray a pitch job, and Ray sort of saying, you know, when I'm that drunk, nothing happens.
• 32:53
  Maria Pena: And Bill goes, yeah, I noticed.
• 33:00
  Maria Pena: Boom.
• 33:00
  Marisol: And he finally gets… it clicks for him with that whole, like…
• 33:05
  Marisol: turn over, I guess, turn over a new leaf thing Doyle was talking about.
• 33:14
  Marisol: He says in that panel… what's it.
• 33:17
  Marisol: I still can't figure out who the new Doyle is by all of this, but the more I dwell on it, the closer I'm getting to the cause of my embarrassed, doomed gut feeling, then pow, it hits me like locust mo… locust motive.
• 33:30
  Maria Pena: Look, Chris.
• 33:30
  Marisol: It's not locomotive, I missed that one.
• 33:33
  Tad Eggleston: Go's motive, yeah.
• 33:36
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 33:40
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 33:46
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 33:48
  Marisol: Hmm.
• 33:48
  Tad Eggleston: I love that this man…
• 33:49
  Maria Pena: I'm gonna ask.
• 33:51
  Tad Eggleston: includes the comic shop that I discovered Love & Rockets at.
• 33:54
  Maria Pena: Chicago Comics on Clark Street. Is it still there?
• 33:59
  Tad Eggleston: It is. It is. I was actually talking…
• 34:02
  Tad Eggleston: I was actually talking to a friend of mine who'll be doing a signing there right before C2E2.
• 34:06
  Maria Pena: That's awesome.
• 34:07
  Marisol: Nice!
• 34:08
  Tad Eggleston: So, man.
• 34:09
  Maria Pena: Any of these, are they all, still, do you think, around, or maybe not?
• 34:14
  Tad Eggleston: I know.
• 34:14
  Maria Pena: Yeah, long time ago.
• 34:15
  Tad Eggleston: is…
• 34:16
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 34:17
  Tad Eggleston: Jim Hanley's universe is now JHU, because Jim Hanley died, but his two…
• 34:26
  Tad Eggleston: Earliest employers took over the shop.
• 34:29
  Maria Pena: Okay.
• 34:30
  Tad Eggleston: And I don't know if they still have their 23rd Street location?
• 34:35
  Tad Eggleston: At one point, they were up to, like, 4 locations, now I think they might be down to just the one on Staten Island. Laughing Ogre is still around.
• 34:46
  Tad Eggleston: Alternate reality and Comicopia, I don't know… For certain.
• 34:54
  Maria Pena: Hmm…
• 34:55
  Tad Eggleston: Cause… cause I haven't been to either of them.
• 34:58
  Tad Eggleston: But… but…
• 35:01
  Maria Pena: I knew…
• 35:01
  Tad Eggleston: 4 of them are around, and I have… and 3 of them I have gone to since… since 22 panels began.
• 35:08
  Tad Eggleston: And the other one I've ordered comics from and get regular emails from.
• 35:14
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 35:15
  Maria Pena: Cool.
• 35:15
  Tad Eggleston: So, this tells you that, like, is selling low.
• 35:19
  Maria Pena: The Rockets.
• 35:20
  Tad Eggleston: We'll keep you in business.
• 35:22
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 35:22
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 35:23
  Maria Pena: That top, that, that, that, the back, you know, cover… I know that's my favorite.
• 35:30
  Marisol: Hmm.
• 35:31
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 35:31
  Maria Pena: I forgot about it, but…
• 35:33
  Tad Eggleston: That's a great panel.
• 35:34
  Marisol: That's cool.
• 35:36
  Maria Pena: That is so good, those shadows are so good.
• 35:40
  Tad Eggleston: It's a great, great, great panel.
• 35:44
  Maria Pena: Sorry.
• 35:46
  Maria Pena: Which.
• 35:50
  Tad Eggleston: So, so that, that, that answers the first question.
• 35:54
  Tad Eggleston: Maria's going with the top of…
• 36:01
  Tad Eggleston: The top of the back cover for her favorite…
• 36:05
  Maria Pena: I'm nitpanel.
• 36:05
  Tad Eggleston: favorite Jaime panel.
• 36:10
  Maria Pena: And,
• 36:14
  Maria Pena: I… I'll have to re…
• 36:16
  Tad Eggleston: Charlotte.
• 36:17
  Maria Pena: I have to remember which one. I did have a Bezel pedal, but I can't…
• 36:23
  Tad Eggleston: I think my Jaime panel is gonna be the… the ray shaving.
• 36:31
  Tad Eggleston: I just… I love it when I see an angle that…
• 36:37
  Tad Eggleston: That's just not quite like anything I've seen before.
• 36:42
  Tad Eggleston: Particularly when it's, like, deceptively so. Like, if you're reading quickly, this… this doesn't look like…
• 36:49
  Tad Eggleston: anything out of the ordinary. But if, like, you look at it, it's like, oh, this is, like… this is… this is not quite a straight angle, because, like, the background is, like, cross… like…
• 37:00
  Tad Eggleston: So he's looking at the mirror at an angle, like…
• 37:04
  Tad Eggleston: Just so much going on in this.
• 37:06
  Marisol: Oh, you mean like the brushing of teeth angle? The panels?
• 37:09
  Tad Eggleston: Right. The, the, the, yeah, the brush… yeah.
• 37:16
  Tad Eggleston: Just so many…
• 37:17
  Marisol: I don't be…
• 37:18
  Tad Eggleston: on.
• 37:21
  Maria Pena: Yeah, the perspective on that one was fun.
• 37:24
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 37:26
  Marisol: I think mine'll have to be the Izzy, tied up, naked on the floor, complaining about missing her soaps.
• 37:34
  Tad Eggleston: That, that, that, that's probably my number 2.
• 37:39
  Marisol: It's so ridiculous.
• 37:46
  Marisol: They go too fast.
• 37:46
  Tad Eggleston: bar already.
• 37:49
  Tad Eggleston: No, I didn't.
• 37:53
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, there we are.
• 37:54
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 37:55
  Maria Pena: Yeah, it's good.
• 37:56
  Marisol: Yep.
• 38:01
  Maria Pena: Not even, don't worry.
• 38:04
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 38:06
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that's a great pedal. And the round, the round shape.
• 38:11
  Tad Eggleston: Huh.
• 38:12
  Marisol: Like, kind of a spotlight.
• 38:15
  Tad Eggleston: I think… I think for me, for Beto.
• 38:18
  Tad Eggleston: I'm gonna have to go to that first story, just because, like, it shows off…
• 38:28
  Tad Eggleston: So much skill that we don't…
• 38:33
  Tad Eggleston: Normally see, because we don't need to.
• 38:35
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, like, like…
• 38:37
  Tad Eggleston: Nothing that it's surprising that he can do, but just, like, different types of panels than we're used to.
• 38:44
  Tad Eggleston: But I think the one I'm going with is… is the… the,
• 38:51
  Tad Eggleston: Butler hanging onto the tree for dear life, the…
• 38:56
  Tad Eggleston: the rich man yelling at the kid, and more showing up.
• 39:05
  Tad Eggleston: With the wonderful plants in between.
• 39:08
  Marisol: Yep.
• 39:10
  Tad Eggleston: You know, big, big broad brushstroke plants.
• 39:15
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, that's my winner.
• 39:23
  Marisol: Oh, that's funny.
• 39:26
  Marisol: They show up with a sign and… or a flag and everything.
• 39:30
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 39:33
  Tad Eggleston: And they're on the phone, and, like, yeah.
• 39:36
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:39
  Marisol: Though I do like this egghead with the mustache, too.
• 39:43
  Maria Pena: Yes, totally.
• 39:45
  Marisol: Yeah. That's probably…
• 39:47
  Tad Eggleston: That's probably my favorite… that's probably my favorite individual, like, character shot.
• 39:54
  Tad Eggleston: Not whole panel. It's this egghead with the mustache.
• 40:00
  Tad Eggleston: Talking about pants.
• 40:12
  Maria Pena: Yeah, so… For me…
• 40:17
  Tad Eggleston: We got 2 whole books to look at for Beto.
• 40:20
  Maria Pena: I know.
• 40:21
  Tad Eggleston: I can, I can…
• 40:22
  Marisol: Mine will have to be the end of…
• 40:26
  Marisol: The other book's first story, where…
• 40:29
  Marisol: Petra and Fritz realize they've been speaking English the whole time, and Luba has not understood a single word they've said.
• 40:35
  Tad Eggleston: Baa.
• 40:36
  Tad Eggleston: That… that was, it was pretty epic.
• 40:41
  Marisol: I was just… Too funny.
• 40:44
  Tad Eggleston: Where was that exactly?
• 40:48
  Marisol: Yes.
• 40:49
  Tad Eggleston: So… so…
• 40:50
  Marisol: and other people.
• 40:51
  Tad Eggleston: the whole… No, it's right here.
• 40:54
  Marisol: Yeah, there it is.
• 40:56
  Tad Eggleston: So, so, like, just the one panel where they figure it out, or…
• 41:03
  Marisol: No, I'd say the whole bottom half of this page, the last.
• 41:05
  Tad Eggleston: So, so the four panels…
• 41:09
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Though that one panel, the look on Fritz… the look… the smirk on Luba's face, combined with the… the shock…
• 41:19
  Tad Eggleston: on…
• 41:22
  Marisol: Yo!
• 41:22
  Tad Eggleston: Fritz and, and, and, and Petra is just like…
• 41:28
  Marisol: It's great. It's so funny.
• 41:34
  Maria Pena: I think my… my favorite is that little story, the whole little story, sad but true, that really grabbed me, because I really related to that, so…
• 41:45
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 41:46
  Maria Pena: I don't know what to make mine.
• 41:48
  Marisol: That one.
• 41:51
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that was suck.
• 41:52
  Tad Eggleston: That, that was, that was in the… that was in the Lovin' Rockets, right?
• 41:58
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 42:00
  Tad Eggleston: We'll see. I don't know. I think the Roy page was in…
• 42:04
  Maria Pena: I think it was.
• 42:05
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
• 42:08
  Maria Pena: Oh yeah, there it is, okay, yeah.
• 42:09
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I think that's good. In true Mad Magazine
• 42:15
  Tad Eggleston: form, though. It's not sad but true. It's sad but true department.
• 42:21
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 42:22
  Marisol: Unmute.
• 42:26
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 42:28
  Tad Eggleston: Like, a recurring theme on this…
• 42:35
  Tad Eggleston: On the podcast lately, as we've talked about a number of things.
• 42:40
  Tad Eggleston: has been The Chris Farley Show. Are either of you enough of Saturday Night Live fans where you know what I'm talking about with The Chris Farley Show? So, Chris Farley had a regular bit.
• 42:51
  Tad Eggleston: Where he was a talk show host?
• 42:55
  Tad Eggleston: We'd have, like, a guest on, And it'd be like…
• 42:59
  Tad Eggleston: like, Paul McCartney was the guest. He's like, remember… remember…
• 43:04
  Tad Eggleston: Remember when you were in the Beatles? And Paul.
• 43:07
  Maria Pena: Yay.
• 43:08
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, Chris, I… That was awesome! Ugh, I'm so stupid!
• 43:14
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 43:15
  Maria Pena: You talked about this last week, I think.
• 43:17
  Tad Eggleston: Okay, so… but… because it's been a recurring theme in enough places where we've been gushing over books to the point where we've run out of things, and we've just felt like we've fallen into
• 43:31
  Tad Eggleston: into Chris Barley land.
• 43:32
  Tad Eggleston: that I have to emphasize that, like, the fact that we don't do that with Love and Rockets, 73 episodes in…
• 43:46
  Tad Eggleston: Is crazy to me.
• 43:48
  Maria Pena: That's because it's so, you know.
• 43:50
  Tad Eggleston: It's… it's crazy to me.
• 43:52
  Maria Pena: So, awesome.
• 43:53
  Tad Eggleston: Well, it is, but we never actually find ourselves just saying, oh, they're awesome. I don't know what to say.
• 44:00
  Marisol: Yeah, well, so there's always something new to talk about.
• 44:03
  Tad Eggleston: Exactly.
• 44:04
  Marisol: Story-wise, or artistically.
• 44:06
  Tad Eggleston: Exactly. I mean, even as I'm just looking at this page, Look at that corpse's hand!
• 44:14
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 44:15
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 44:16
  Tad Eggleston: And the traditional uses for a corpse?
• 44:21
  Maria Pena: Not the, you know, not the modern uses, the traditional use.
• 44:25
  Marisol: Yeah. I mean…
• 44:26
  Tad Eggleston: This whole page belongs in Classic Mad Magazine.
• 44:30
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 44:33
  Tad Eggleston: Just… For giggles. And using characters that we don't know before. We've had Roy!
• 44:39
  Tad Eggleston: It's not like this is, you know, just…
• 44:42
  Tad Eggleston: I love this! I love that, like, again, we are… I think this is our 73rd.
• 44:50
  Tad Eggleston: Love and Rockets Book Club.
• 44:54
  Tad Eggleston: And I don't feel like we… we've gotten to the, maybe we should read more of it at a time, because we don't have anything to say point. And I just… I thank you guys for that, because, like, you are… are…
• 45:10
  Tad Eggleston: are, are, like…
• 45:12
  Tad Eggleston: definitely doing a lion's share of the lifting on this one, because I… I feel… I feel like I could fall into Love and Rock, or I could fall into Chris Farley land if… if I didn't have you guys…
• 45:24
  Tad Eggleston: Keeping the game high enough that I gotta… I gotta… I gotta meet you.
• 45:30
  Tad Eggleston: Wow.
• 45:31
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah, as we head into the holidays, and almost 3 years worth of
• 45:38
  Tad Eggleston: Love and Rockets Book Club, I thank you.
• 45:41
  Tad Eggleston: immensely, and
• 45:44
  Tad Eggleston: For Maria Pena and Marisol, this has been Love & Rockets Book Club on 22 Panels.
• 45:50
  Tad Eggleston: And we will see you after the next page.